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^^^ yes, maybe someone can tell us which member of the Pucci family this was. what his name was ???
Just read back in the historical records, the Pucci patriarch who used to like to wear a headband and earrings, what was his name again?
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quote:Pucci Muurz ancestral founder: The family surname derives from an ancestor named Jacopo, abbreviated to Jacopuccio, then to Puccio, who was considered wise and frequently called upon to settle disputes - there are records of two such interventions in 1264 and 1287. Their former surname seems to have been Saracini, which explains the presence of a maure or moor's head on their crest and coat of arms. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pucci_family
none of the above says that the Moor in the coat of arms is Jacopo, try again
You can't even find a white noble who is pictured on a coat of arms. The simple fact is that much as you would like it not to be true the Europeans did not put images of themselves or the "founder" of the family on their coats of arms.
The Muslim invaders came and started a family in Florence? stop it
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Lioness? Why so resistant to the idea of black progenitors in medieval Europe? There were very prominent Moorish families in Britain, Norway and Denmark, even Germany, in these times.
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quote:Originally posted by HERU: Lioness? Why so resistant to the idea of black progenitors in medieval Europe? There were very prominent Moorish families in Britain, Norway and Denmark, even Germany, in these times.
I'm resistant to false history to make people feel good, the fact is that there were zero black noble families in Britain, Norway, Denmark or Germany. They didn't allow it
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quote:Originally posted by HERU: Lioness? Why so resistant to the idea of black progenitors in medieval Europe? There were very prominent Moorish families in Britain, Norway and Denmark, even Germany, in these times.
I'm resistant to false history to make people feel good, the fact is that there were zero black noble families in Britain, Norway, Denmark or Germany. They didn't allow it
Did not allow what? And who was this Princely Muurish lover of Queen Elizabeth I?
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quote:Originally posted by the lioness: the fact is that there were zero black noble families in Britain, Norway, Denmark or Germany. They didn't allow it
Seems pretty loose to use the word "fact."
What do we make of the so-called "Ivory Bangle Lady" of Britain and the soldiers and families of African origin identified in the service of the Romans? The Times noted on the story:
"She added that inscriptions from that period showed that African people were most often members of the imperialist power’s army. But the latest research on a series of skeletons showed that African men had immigrated to Britain, invariably with the Roman Army, and had brought their wives and children."
Or take Norway, for example. Geirmund Heljarskin (c. 9th century) is the first man of "distinction" mentioned in this study of the Saga Age literature:
"Settlers named in Landnamabok include many men of distinction: Geirmundr heljarskin, a warrior king (herkonungr) with a base in Rogaland (Sin, H86) ..." Old Icelandic Literature and Society, 2000, Edited by: Margaret Clunies Ross, University of Sydney, Cambridge University Press
On all accounts Geirmund and his twin brother were extremely dark-skinned. The appellation "heljarskin" means, literally, 'black as hell.' Their mother came from Denmark.
"This feeling, and the fact that there could be dark complexion in the best Scandinavian blood, are attested by the story of Geirmund Heljarskin's childhood (LanJndmaMt ii, 19; Sturlunga Sag" i, 1-2)" - Frederick Tupper, The Riddles of the Exeter Book, 1971
By no means is it scholarly to say blacks simply were "not allowed" to distinguish themselves and have families in medieval Europe. Its facile, contrarian, not scholarly.
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If Lioness can't accept McRitchie the claims that blacks were Europe's first royalty with the abundance of evidence presented, tough cookies.
Family crests are just one medium showing who was what. There are also the coins (not the fake/phony oil paints that some person who will remain unnamed always spams these threads with that any Tom, Dick, or Harry can paint:)
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Sorry Marc, White people hating, lying, history stealing, white people genocidist, Black racist, Black supremacist, none of those people on those coins look Black. I don't believe you or any of your White people hating, White people genocidist, lying, history stealing, Black racist Black supremacist pseudo-scholars.
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quote:Originally posted by the lioness: the fact is that there were zero black noble families in Britain, Norway, Denmark or Germany. They didn't allow it
Seems pretty loose to use the word "fact."
What do we make of the so-called "Ivory Bangle Lady" of Britain and the soldiers and families of African origin identified in the service of the Romans? The Times noted on the story:
"She added that inscriptions from that period showed that African people were most often members of the imperialist power’s army. But the latest research on a series of skeletons showed that African men had immigrated to Britain, invariably with the Roman Army, and had brought their wives and children."
Or take Norway, for example. Geirmund Heljarskin (c. 9th century) is the first man of "distinction" mentioned in this study of the Saga Age literature:
"Settlers named in Landnamabok include many men of distinction: Geirmundr heljarskin, a warrior king (herkonungr) with a base in Rogaland (Sin, H86) ..." Old Icelandic Literature and Society, 2000, Edited by: Margaret Clunies Ross, University of Sydney, Cambridge University Press
On all accounts Geirmund and his twin brother were extremely dark-skinned. The appellation "heljarskin" means, literally, 'black as hell.' Their mother came from Denmark.
"This feeling, and the fact that there could be dark complexion in the best Scandinavian blood, are attested by the story of Geirmund Heljarskin's childhood (LanJndmaMt ii, 19; Sturlunga Sag" i, 1-2)" - Frederick Tupper, The Riddles of the Exeter Book, 1971
By no means is it scholarly to say blacks simply were "not allowed" to distinguish themselves and have families in medieval Europe. Its facile, contrarian, not scholarly.
Please do not put words in my mouth. I did not say blacks were not allowed to have families in medieval Europe or be soldiers for the white man. I said that blacks along with most white people (who were not of noble bloodline) were not part of noble or royal families in medieval Europe at any time in early Europe. The number of blacks in medieval Europe was under 1%.
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Lioness you are resistant to the idea that Blacks from south of the desert or of a certain phenotype of which you hardly approve can hold power or influence beyond the boarders of Africa and certainly not Europe,I am not gonna sit here and tell you that every single note worthy family in Europe was founded by blacks,but what does it mean to be a Noble in the first place in the first place
The nobility is a social class distinguished by high hereditary or honorary rank that possesses privileges, or eminence, and certain rights not granted to members of other classes in a society. The privileges of the nobility often comprise substantial real advantages, including rights of access, that vary from country to country and era to era. Traditional membership in the nobility is highly regulated by monarchist governments, which grant the ranks and titles to members of the elite. However, the noble class is not a closed order, and throughout history, membership has been perpetually renewed.
In other words persons who got in good with the King
Say like this guy posted here before and which I am sure you are a-where of, Johannes Morus ruler of Sicily and really?? you did not find Fairbirn's book of crest useful ah mean with all the descriptions of family names in the heraldry.
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If Lioness can't accept McRitchie the claims that blacks were Europe's first royalty with the abundance of evidence presented, tough cookies.
Family crests are just one medium showing who was what. There are also the coins (not the fake/phony oil paints that some person who will remain unnamed always spams these threads with that any Tom, Dick, or Harry can paint:)
Black kings ruled throughout Europe as the above shows. . .
Marc the above are merely various pug nosed and Jay Leno chinned white people.
Listen carefully: David McRitchie theorized about prehistoric Britons being short people who lived underground. He never said any of these famous nobles that you are showing coins of, were black. He certainly never ever said the Hapsburgs were black that's ridiculous. Go to David McRitchie's books. Find us one Euroepan noble that we can see shown in a coin that McRitchie says was black. There aren't any so you can put the coins away
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quote:Originally posted by Brada-Anansi: Lioness you are resistant to the idea that Blacks from south of the desert or of a certain phenotype of which you hardly approve can hold power or influence beyond the boarders of Africa and certainly not Europe,I am not gonna sit here and tell you that every single note worthy family in Europe was founded by blacks,but what does it mean to be a Noble in the first place in the first place
The nobility is a social class distinguished by high hereditary or honorary rank that possesses privileges, or eminence, and certain rights not granted to members of other classes in a society. The privileges of the nobility often comprise substantial real advantages, including rights of access, that vary from country to country and era to era. Traditional membership in the nobility is highly regulated by monarchist governments, which grant the ranks and titles to members of the elite. However, the noble class is not a closed order, and throughout history, membership has been perpetually renewed.
In other words persons who got in good with the King
Say like this guy posted here before and which I am sure you are a-where of, Johannes Morus ruler of Sicily and really?? you did not find Fairbirn's book of crest useful ah mean with all the descriptions of family names in the heraldry.
Johannes Morus an obscure barely known figure in European history was not the ruler of Sicily, nor did he start a royal family or have an image of himself on a coat of arms. He was under Leo and was primarily a minister. He had probably started out as a slave and rose to an impressive positon under white authority. There is little known about him
quote:Originally posted by Marc Washington: blacks were Europe's first royalty with the abundance of evidence presented
Black kings ruled throughout Europe as the above shows. . . [/QB]
Brada you believe this?
I never said there were no blacks in Europe but we were not the first kings of Europe nor the founders of any royal/noble familes
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quote:Originally posted by the lioness: Please do not put words in my mouth. I did not say blacks were not allowed to have families in medieval Europe or be soldiers for the white man. I said that blacks along with most white people (who were not of noble bloodline) were not part of noble or royal families in medieval Europe at any time in early Europe. The number of blacks in medieval Europe was under 1%.
"the fact is that there were zero black noble families in Britain, Norway, Denmark or Germany. They didn't allow it."
Yikes. I hardly had room to put words in your mouth.
There is ample evidence from medieval Spain, Portugal, the Old Norse world and elsewhere, you're mistaken.
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Lioness most of what passes for Kings or nobility in Europe are barely known figures,
A viceroy /ˈvaɪs.rɔɪ/ is a royal official who runs a country, colony, or city province (or state) in the name of and as representative of the monarch. The term derives from the Latin prefix vice-, meaning "in the place of" and the French word roi, meaning king.
In other words he was ruler of Sicily and no he did not start out as a slave, you see Lioness that's your problem anyone bearing that phenotype is auto automatically cast or recast as a Slave he couldn't be a Moor who switched sides but he had to have been a slave so as to diminish his position but even of he did started out as a slave there he is as ruler of Sicily the most likely inspiration of the Shakespearean play Othello a noble man.
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Somebody in this thread who will remain unnamed does not read. I will only say (and the guilty party will know what to look for) read from the 3rd paragraph to the end.
It contains the quote:
"McRitchie (and we are not talking about little green goblins living underground) gives the names of these families (Moorish) whose names are quite celebrated in English history. One of these is the aristocratic Douglas family, said to be one of the ancestors of the present royal family of Britain."
You keep asking for the same information and when someone supplies it, you ask for something different playing a game of musical chairs.
Interesting. You are pretending, like an ostrich with its head in the ground, that the following never existed: an exalted black nobility of Europe that has not been surpassed:
You seem to be a pretty desperate gal. And God knows why you hang around this site devoting your life to trying to prove to some black guys that fake white history is true.
Chill out.
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And don't forget big-nosed, big-lipped Rudolf II (and please don't give us your fake white oil paintings as some phony dubious proof to the otherwise):
Your people are such liars and deceivers. You as well. And you don't seem to have remorse. That is the scary thing. You guys lie and deceive with sick passion.
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Marc it's ridiculous to show this decorative item which cannot be older than 19th century and saying it's from the 10th century. Stop the deception Again, a generic Moor rather than labeled a real person with a first and last name, certianly not a Croation king (lol)
-just keep hiding the source of that item. It will be our little secret.
Also Scobie is interpreting what thes British authors said. Go to the original sources. There were Moorish noble families established in Britain and Germany?? You would need to rewrite the whole history of the Crusades and the Moorish empire to accomodate this silliness
At least Scobie does some quoting of sources. But what you do is a lot worse. You go into European history and at random say famous European Kings Queens and princes who MacRitchie or any other British author never said were black simply because you look at them and notice some of these white people had a slightly more bulbous nose, their jaw looks like Jay Leno, or the coin is a bit worn, blunting down the nose. It's childish
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The Coat of Arms of a family who is well known whose head started out as a royal captive ended up in Russia became ennobled his descendants married into the royal houses of Europe, however he elected not have an image of himself on his arm nor even the name Moor although he was called the Moor of Peter the great.
Pushkin’s Third Generation (Abraham’s Sixth Generation)
A. Countess Sofia Von Merenberg (pictured on the left) married H.I.H Mikhael Mihailovich Romanov in 1891. (Note: Grand Duke Mikhael Mihailovich was the grandson of Czar Nicholas I and the brother of the last Czar of Russia, Czar Nicholas II. If you recall, it was Czar Nicholas I who informed Pushkin that he (the Czar) would be his censor. It is ironic that the descendants of Czar Nicholas I and Pushkin would marry each other. In other words, Czar Nicholas I and Pushkin after their death had become grand parent -in-laws.) Because of the morgantic nature of this union, a new title was created for Countess Sofia Von Merenberg and her children. The created title was Countess De Torby. And the title was created by H.R.H. Grand Duke Adolphe I of Luxembourg (Genealogy of the Imperial Family of Russia). The children were :
There you go again. Avoiding the fact that your question was answered and showing your deceitful nature once again so typical of whites.
You'd inquired about black names on family crests. Brada showed you a bunch and you said you couldn't read it. And you (again) wanted just one (and he gave you a dozen that were legible)
You claim no blacks were among nobility and are shown images of a page of monarchs who are as black as you get. Are shown Rudolf, as black as you can get. And your only comment is that the decorative item can't be older than the 19th centuury.
On what evidence, pray tell, do you base your speculation on?
Main point, you lost the argument long, long ago and are, as I said earlier, hoping from one point to the next in your sneaky, insincere, deceitful characteristic way.
You are a lost cause.
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There you go again. Avoiding the fact that your question was answered and showing your deceitful nature once again so typical of whites.
You'd inquired about black names on family crests. Brada showed you a bunch and you said you couldn't read it. And you (again) wanted just one (and he gave you a dozen that were legible)
You claim no blacks were among nobility and are shown images of a page of monarchs who are as black as you get.
quote:Originally posted by Brada-Anansi: Moor,Moureau,Mourana,Mouryan,Morel
Marc, the name "Moor" or derivatives of it does not mean the person that has that name was black or have black ancestry anymore than Thomas Moore was black or random white person with the last name "Black" was black. Does a person named John Green descend from green people? What about Mr. Brown? Was he named after cocoa? My challenge was not met, there is no example of a person of a noble family pictured on their own coat of arms. Wildmen and Moors for instance appear on these crests but they do not represent the appearance of the family members they are symbolic and mascot-like, cute. Do you really think a European noble is going to be wearing a rag headband and large earrings? Further, non-noble mixing in royal bloodlines happens but it's pretty rare. Even with crowns, the same deal-these Moor symbols are not actual people with names- do you evr see a name of a specific person under these heads? Even Egmond knows that. I'll sic him on you. Look at the pope benedict coat of arms. You think he loves black people? No he thinks that looks cute with the blood splatter coming off the neck
20 years form now Marc's kids will be claiming Pope Benedict was black based off this.
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..The Albino Germanic tribes: Goths, Vandals, Avars, Bulgars. Alans, Suebi, Frisians amoung other Germanic and Slavic tribes
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A fake, idealised portrait of the founder of the Dutch dynasty by The Key.
What is your source which says he was swarthy. I wouild like to add this to my source which says More brown then white (in french) and brown of complexion and the beard (in dutch) (Jonkheer Beresteyn 1933)
The books by Van Beresteyn are at the base of my research, as he offers methodology, but he does not follow through in identifying his ancestors as black of skin. He leads us to the door, but we have to open it. Remarkable.
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White shoe leather trash wants to sound learned and claims portraits are realistic and that the sitter actually posed for the painter. How the hell do you know. You cannot look at a portrait and decide that the person posed. This we can only know if their are letters, bills and text which say so. But even if they did; its no guarantee the portrait shows their true look.
My next publication is also cencerned with the recent Van Mierevelt exhibition in Delft, I was fortunate to speak with the curator, and from the book I have learned that the painter draws a sketch from live, but adapts the true face to idealised proportions, and adds a few personal touches. The elite wanted a standard look to represent their status, not art. Or this is art, to make somebody soso look imposing.
The body shape and the dress came standard with the painting, to establish the person as a member of a certain powerful group, wearing the required garb of that group. The jewellery was added by the painter. For extra pay they might add a personal item as special gloves, a prayerbook, or indeed some jewelery.
Regarding Van Mierevelt, I maintain we are looking at overpaints or whitened copies as he was apt to paint the true brown and black complexions of his clients. He was famous for that.
The Book
Boy, did I scrutinize Lady Carlton by Van Mierevelt. An obvious overpaint, but it also looks like she herself was painted white when she posed. The white skin on her bosom is clearly painted around her intricate collier, you see the paint strokes, and the wood is showing underneath her hairline.
I have decided that the face painting and face bleaching of the brown and black, Black identified European elite (1100-1848) was an African tradition, evoking the ancestors, and has precious little to do with white people.
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quote:Marc, the name "Moor" or derivatives of it does not mean the person that has that name was black or have black ancestry anymore than Thomas Moore was black or random white person with the last name "Black" was black. Does a person named John Green descend from green people? What about Mr. Brown? Was he named after cocoa
Lioness why are you playing dumb you know very well how Sir names are formed at least in Medieval Europe, they are usually formed after a person's location,such as a city,village,hamlet, sometimes even a nation or tribe, example if one was called John Scotsman,bet your bottom dollar that he had an ancestor from Scotland. Other times it could be his ancestor's occupation example John Baker would likely have an ancestor as a Baker,John Bowman has ancestor whose occupation was a Bowman ditto for John Archer,John Smith or Smythe off-course would be a Smith a person who worked in an Iron foundry,John Goldman ,Silverman,etc
Yet Others are based on physical characteristic,the most notable would of a complexion so yes a John Brownman or Blackman or Blackmoor ancestor could have extraordinary brown skin,John Redbeard well John with the red beard,but this was even more telling when you have Black,Blackman,Blackson,Moor,Moorison,Murrymen, in on a coat of Arms along with an inserted Moor on it.
I know for sure you did not bother viewing the links of the lecture or Fairbirn's book of heraldry
Thomas Moore may not have been black but he may have had an ancestor who was, who may not have bothered putting an effigy on the coat of arms just like a well known Moor name Abraham Hannibal.
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quote:Originally posted by HERU: Lioness? Why so resistant to the idea of black progenitors in medieval Europe? There were very prominent Moorish families in Britain, Norway and Denmark, even Germany, in these times.
I'm resistant to false history to make people feel good, the fact is that there were zero black noble families in Britain, Norway, Denmark or Germany. They didn't allow it
Did not allow what? And who was this Princely Muurish lover of Queen Elizabeth I?
There is no damn proof in what you are saying about this Drake Jewel, you are worst then this white shoe leather trash. You seem to be hell bent in keeping back Blacks with your mysterious undocumented bull s hit.
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quote:Originally posted by HERU: Lioness? Why so resistant to the idea of black progenitors in medieval Europe? There were very prominent Moorish families in Britain, Norway and Denmark, even Germany, in these times.
I'm resistant to false history to make people feel good, the fact is that there were zero black noble families in Britain, Norway, Denmark or Germany. They didn't allow it
Did not allow what? And who was this Princely Muurish lover of Queen Elizabeth I?
There is no damn proof in what you are saying about this Drake Jewel, you are worst then this white shoe leather trash. You seem to be hell bent in keeping back Blacks with your mysterious undocumented bull s hit.
You think you are an authority, but you are not, and you know that. So shut the fvck up!
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You have no right to speak to a brother like that. You should use respectful terms when addressing brothers.
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I will shout thief if a see a Black man robbing some poor folks. Respect needs to be earned, and you yourself are becoming more of a vexing eyesore with your unfounded claims, but I do practice restraint. It has been the Black who sold Blacks and now are holding back Black progress on this forum, as well. Do not you people learn?
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quote:Originally posted by HERU: Lioness? Why so resistant to the idea of black progenitors in medieval Europe? There were very prominent Moorish families in Britain, Norway and Denmark, even Germany, in these times.
I'm resistant to false history to make people feel good, the fact is that there were zero black noble families in Britain, Norway, Denmark or Germany. They didn't allow it
Did not allow what? And who was this Princely Muurish lover of Queen Elizabeth I?
There is no damn proof in what you are saying about this Drake Jewel, you are worst then this white shoe leather trash. You seem to be hell bent in keeping back Blacks with your mysterious undocumented bull s hit.
You think you are an authority, but you are not, and you know that. So shut the fvck up!
I speak about things I know, I can proof or argue based on facts. You need to proof a single source to underscore you stupid claims. Sureley a king's name would be documented somewhere? We know that Elizabeth I had lovers, we know their name and their looks. This we know by reading, not by talking out of our ass.
quote: 1. Was Jane Austen black? Codfried, Egmond / 1st ed / Codfried / 2011
2. Will there be another Holocaust? = Komt er weer een Holocaust? Codfried, Egmond / Codfried / 2010
3. Blue blood is black blood : the iconographical proof of a dominating black and colored European race who were a noble and royal elite (1500-1789) = Blauw bloed is zwart bloed : het iconografisch bewijs van een dominerende zwarte en gekleurde Europese natie die een adellijke en koninklijke elite was (1500-1789) Codfried, Egmond / Codfried / [2009]
4. De vijand van de Neeger Codfried, Egmond / Codfried / 2006-...
5. De vijand van de Neeger ; Dl. 1: Ongeediteerde correspondentie en columns 2004-2006 Codfried, Egmond / 1e dr / Codfried / 2006
6. Carmelita, Carmen! Codfried, Egmond / 1e dr / Codfried / 2006
7. Maria Susanna Du Plessis (1739-1795) : dader of slachtoffer? Codfried, Egmond / 8e bew. dr / Codfried / 2005
8. Belle van Zuylen's vergeten oma: Maria Jacoba van Goor (1687-1737) : een beknopte studie over zwarten en kleurlingen in Europa en Nederland door de eeuwen heen Codfried, Egmond / 1e verb. dr / Codfried / 2005
9. Belle van Zuylen's vergeten oma: Maria Jacoba van Goor (1687-1737) : een beknopte studie over zwarten en kleurlingen in Europa en Nederland door de eeuwen heen Codfried, Egmond / Codfried / 2004
10. Maria Susanna Du Plessis (1739-1795) : dader of slachtoffer? Codfried, Egmond / 4e bew. dr / Egmond Codfried / cop. 2003
Some of my humble titles. I know not everything, so i keep shut about things I know nothing about.
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quote:Originally posted by HERU: Lioness? Why so resistant to the idea of black progenitors in medieval Europe? There were very prominent Moorish families in Britain, Norway and Denmark, even Germany, in these times.
I'm resistant to false history to make people feel good, the fact is that there were zero black noble families in Britain, Norway, Denmark or Germany. They didn't allow it
Did not allow what? And who was this Princely Muurish lover of Queen Elizabeth I?
There is no damn proof in what you are saying about this Drake Jewel, you are worst then this white shoe leather trash. You seem to be hell bent in keeping back Blacks with your mysterious undocumented bull s hit.
You think you are an authority, but you are not, and you know that. So shut the fvck up!
I speak about things I know, I can proof or argue based on facts. You need to proof a single source to underscore you stupid claims. Sureley a king's name would be documented somewhere? We know that Elizabeth I had lovers, we know their name and their looks. This we know by reading, not by talking out of our ass.
quote: 1. Was Jane Austen black? Codfried, Egmond / 1st ed / Codfried / 2011
2. Will there be another Holocaust? = Komt er weer een Holocaust? Codfried, Egmond / Codfried / 2010
3. Blue blood is black blood : the iconographical proof of a dominating black and colored European race who were a noble and royal elite (1500-1789) = Blauw bloed is zwart bloed : het iconografisch bewijs van een dominerende zwarte en gekleurde Europese natie die een adellijke en koninklijke elite was (1500-1789) Codfried, Egmond / Codfried / [2009]
4. De vijand van de Neeger Codfried, Egmond / Codfried / 2006-...
5. De vijand van de Neeger ; Dl. 1: Ongeediteerde correspondentie en columns 2004-2006 Codfried, Egmond / 1e dr / Codfried / 2006
6. Carmelita, Carmen! Codfried, Egmond / 1e dr / Codfried / 2006
7. Maria Susanna Du Plessis (1739-1795) : dader of slachtoffer? Codfried, Egmond / 8e bew. dr / Codfried / 2005
8. Belle van Zuylen's vergeten oma: Maria Jacoba van Goor (1687-1737) : een beknopte studie over zwarten en kleurlingen in Europa en Nederland door de eeuwen heen Codfried, Egmond / 1e verb. dr / Codfried / 2005
9. Belle van Zuylen's vergeten oma: Maria Jacoba van Goor (1687-1737) : een beknopte studie over zwarten en kleurlingen in Europa en Nederland door de eeuwen heen Codfried, Egmond / Codfried / 2004
10. Maria Susanna Du Plessis (1739-1795) : dader of slachtoffer? Codfried, Egmond / 4e bew. dr / Egmond Codfried / cop. 2003
Some of my humble titles. I know not everything, so i keep shut about things I know nothing about.
You love ass talk, but I dont. I am Rastafari, holy man.
Can you tell me who that black man was? Provide your explanation or your theory.
Thanks.
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quote:Originally posted by HERU: Lioness? Why so resistant to the idea of black progenitors in medieval Europe? There were very prominent Moorish families in Britain, Norway and Denmark, even Germany, in these times.
I'm resistant to false history to make people feel good, the fact is that there were zero black noble families in Britain, Norway, Denmark or Germany. They didn't allow it
Did not allow what? And who was this Princely Muurish lover of Queen Elizabeth I?
There is no damn proof in what you are saying about this Drake Jewel, you are worst then this white shoe leather trash. You seem to be hell bent in keeping back Blacks with your mysterious undocumented bull s hit.
You think you are an authority, but you are not, and you know that. So shut the fvck up!
I speak about things I know, I can proof or argue based on facts. You need to proof a single source to underscore you stupid claims. Sureley a king's name would be documented somewhere? We know that Elizabeth I had lovers, we know their name and their looks. This we know by reading, not by talking out of our ass.
quote: 1. Was Jane Austen black? Codfried, Egmond / 1st ed / Codfried / 2011
2. Will there be another Holocaust? = Komt er weer een Holocaust? Codfried, Egmond / Codfried / 2010
3. Blue blood is black blood : the iconographical proof of a dominating black and colored European race who were a noble and royal elite (1500-1789) = Blauw bloed is zwart bloed : het iconografisch bewijs van een dominerende zwarte en gekleurde Europese natie die een adellijke en koninklijke elite was (1500-1789) Codfried, Egmond / Codfried / [2009]
4. De vijand van de Neeger Codfried, Egmond / Codfried / 2006-...
5. De vijand van de Neeger ; Dl. 1: Ongeediteerde correspondentie en columns 2004-2006 Codfried, Egmond / 1e dr / Codfried / 2006
6. Carmelita, Carmen! Codfried, Egmond / 1e dr / Codfried / 2006
7. Maria Susanna Du Plessis (1739-1795) : dader of slachtoffer? Codfried, Egmond / 8e bew. dr / Codfried / 2005
8. Belle van Zuylen's vergeten oma: Maria Jacoba van Goor (1687-1737) : een beknopte studie over zwarten en kleurlingen in Europa en Nederland door de eeuwen heen Codfried, Egmond / 1e verb. dr / Codfried / 2005
9. Belle van Zuylen's vergeten oma: Maria Jacoba van Goor (1687-1737) : een beknopte studie over zwarten en kleurlingen in Europa en Nederland door de eeuwen heen Codfried, Egmond / Codfried / 2004
10. Maria Susanna Du Plessis (1739-1795) : dader of slachtoffer? Codfried, Egmond / 4e bew. dr / Egmond Codfried / cop. 2003
Some of my humble titles. I know not everything, so i keep shut about things I know nothing about.
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quote:Originally posted by HERU: Lioness? Why so resistant to the idea of black progenitors in medieval Europe? There were very prominent Moorish families in Britain, Norway and Denmark, even Germany, in these times.
I'm resistant to false history to make people feel good, the fact is that there were zero black noble families in Britain, Norway, Denmark or Germany. They didn't allow it
Did not allow what? And who was this Princely Muurish lover of Queen Elizabeth I?
There is no damn proof in what you are saying about this Drake Jewel, you are worst then this white shoe leather trash. You seem to be hell bent in keeping back Blacks with your mysterious undocumented bull s hit.
You think you are an authority, but you are not, and you know that. So shut the fvck up!
I speak about things I know, I can proof or argue based on facts. You need to proof a single source to underscore you stupid claims. Sureley a king's name would be documented somewhere? We know that Elizabeth I had lovers, we know their name and their looks. This we know by reading, not by talking out of our ass.
quote: 1. Was Jane Austen black? Codfried, Egmond / 1st ed / Codfried / 2011
2. Will there be another Holocaust? = Komt er weer een Holocaust? Codfried, Egmond / Codfried / 2010
3. Blue blood is black blood : the iconographical proof of a dominating black and colored European race who were a noble and royal elite (1500-1789) = Blauw bloed is zwart bloed : het iconografisch bewijs van een dominerende zwarte en gekleurde Europese natie die een adellijke en koninklijke elite was (1500-1789) Codfried, Egmond / Codfried / [2009]
4. De vijand van de Neeger Codfried, Egmond / Codfried / 2006-...
5. De vijand van de Neeger ; Dl. 1: Ongeediteerde correspondentie en columns 2004-2006 Codfried, Egmond / 1e dr / Codfried / 2006
6. Carmelita, Carmen! Codfried, Egmond / 1e dr / Codfried / 2006
7. Maria Susanna Du Plessis (1739-1795) : dader of slachtoffer? Codfried, Egmond / 8e bew. dr / Codfried / 2005
8. Belle van Zuylen's vergeten oma: Maria Jacoba van Goor (1687-1737) : een beknopte studie over zwarten en kleurlingen in Europa en Nederland door de eeuwen heen Codfried, Egmond / 1e verb. dr / Codfried / 2005
9. Belle van Zuylen's vergeten oma: Maria Jacoba van Goor (1687-1737) : een beknopte studie over zwarten en kleurlingen in Europa en Nederland door de eeuwen heen Codfried, Egmond / Codfried / 2004
10. Maria Susanna Du Plessis (1739-1795) : dader of slachtoffer? Codfried, Egmond / 4e bew. dr / Egmond Codfried / cop. 2003
Some of my humble titles. I know not everything, so i keep shut about things I know nothing about.
LOL! You wrote 10 essays.... so you are an expert, Lol!
Queen Elizabeth I provided her buddy, sir Drake with a miniatuur portrait of herself, and he made a jewel casing around it. This was adorned with a classical cameo of a Black king ecclipsing a white woman. The white women is white Europe, and the image symbolises Black Superiority. The same symbol is seen on a Medici candelabra in the Louvre Museum, which was a wedding gift to Maria de Medici when she married that French King. It does not show alessandro's mother or some other nonsense.
I think taking drugs is unhealthy and many Surinam Rasta's end up crazy, homeless freaks.
I was forunate enough to have seen both pieces in real.
A portrait of Joachim Murat on a white horse is the same thing.
The Black prince sitting on a white, blond maned horse, symbolising the rule of Blacks over their white serfs.
Y'all should be wearing white shoes, and free yourself.
Not the mother of Alessandro medici, but a Black superiority symbol, Medici Candelabra, Louvre.
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quote:Originally posted by Egmond Codfried: ..... This was adorned with a classical cameo of a Black king ecclipsing a white woman. The white women is white Europe, and the image symbolises Black Superiority.........
Citations??? Sources???
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Did not allow what? And who was this Princely Muurish lover of Queen Elizabeth I?
There is no damn proof in what you are saying about this Drake Jewel, you are worst then this white shoe leather trash. You seem to be hell bent in keeping back Blacks with your mysterious undocumented bull s hit. [/QUOTE]
Cameos of queens are official and historical records. It takes a lifetime of training in art, scupture, symbolism, heraldry, before one is qualified to work on making royal cameos.
Cameos are expensive to make. Serious works of art and historical records, they were could be used as seals, as medals, or as models that are used to make currency coins.
The standard I have observed is that no cameo head is a fantasy. They always represent living monarchs. Check out the an image printed off the cameo of Elizabeth II on the back of English coins and on their pound notes.
Every hair in a cameo means something. Nothing is placed there by accident or by chance.
All royalties appearing therein were living when it was made. It is a symbol, a seal, and a medal of the living monarch.
When a queen appears accompanied by a man in a cameo, it is either her consort, her Father or her King. This is the general rule. That is the underlying assumption underpinning my interpretation of the drake jewels.
It is simple for those who have eyes.
Below, you can see samples of cameo.
Cameos of Queens and consorts:
Double cameo portrait of Queen Victoria and the Prince Consort engraved in onyx.
Elizabeth II and Philip
Victoria and George
Ptolemy and Arsenio
Gonzaga cameo Ptolemy and Arsenio
The cameo below belong to Elizabeth the first. It got into the possession of the Drake family reputedly as a gift from Elizabeth.
In the picture below, we see the image of a white queen dominated by the image of a Moorish King.
Cameos are not made for fun, or by accident or mistake. They represent serious endeavour of history and state record.
Who is this on the cameo, with the queen, presumably Queen Elizabeth the first. We know she never married and had many lovers.
Which one is this?
Who is this forgotten Princely Muurish lover of Elizabeth I:
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blah...blah...blah...
quote:Originally posted by the lioness: .....
Show me one case where a figure or head that appears in a coat of arms or crest is depicting a member of that family who has a first and last name. I doesn't eve have to be a "Moor". Just show us any
blah...blah..blah..
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Muir Clan Scotland
Muurish Badge of Scotland
Muir was a name by which the people of Strathclyde-Briton of the English/Scotland borderland were initally known.
Did not allow what? And who was this Princely Muurish lover of Queen Elizabeth I?
There is no damn proof in what you are saying about this Drake Jewel, you are worst then this white shoe leather trash. You seem to be hell bent in keeping back Blacks with your mysterious undocumented bull s hit.
Cameos of queens are official and historical records. It takes a lifetime of training in art, scupture, symbolism, heraldry, before one is qualified to work on making royal cameos.
Cameos are expensive to make. Serious works of art and historical records, they were could be used as seals, as medals, or as models that are used to make currency coins.
The standard I have observed is that no cameo head is a fantasy. They always represent living monarchs. Check out the an image printed off the cameo of Elizabeth II on the back of English coins and on their pound notes.
Every hair in a cameo means something. Nothing is placed there by accident or by chance.
All royalties appearing therein were living when it was made. It is a symbol, a seal, and a medal of the living monarch.
When a queen appears accompanied by a man in a cameo, it is either her consort, her Father or her King. This is the general rule. That is the underlying assumption underpinning my interpretation of the drake jewels.
It is simple for those who have eyes.
Below, you can see samples of cameo.
Cameos of Queens and consorts:
Double cameo portrait of Queen Victoria and the Prince Consort engraved in onyx.
Elizabeth II and Philip
Victoria and George
Ptolemy and Arsenio
The cameo below belong to Elizabeth the first. It got into the possession of the Drake family reputedly as a gift from Elizabeth.
In the picture below, we see the image of a white queen dominated by the image of a Moorish King.
Cameos are not made for fun, or by accident or mistake. They represent serious endeavour of history and state record.
Who is this on the cameo, with the queen, presumably Queen Elizabeth the first. We know she never married and had many lovers.
Which one is this?
Who is this forgotten Princely Muurish lover of Elizabeth I:
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Made in Italy, 16th century AD...
Anyone here knows him? Posts: 7419 | From: North America | Registered: Mar 2009
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blah...blah...blah...
quote:Originally posted by the lioness: .....
Show me one case where a figure or head that appears in a coat of arms or crest is depicting a member of that family who has a first and last name. I doesn't eve have to be a "Moor". Just show us any
blah...blah..blah..
.
Muir Clan Scotland
Muurish Badge of Scotland
Muir was a name by which the people of Strathclyde-Briton of the English/Scotland borderland were initally known.
The cameo below belong to Elizabeth the first. It got into the possession of the Drake family reputedly as a gift from Elizabeth.
In the picture below, we see the image of a white queen dominated by the image of a Moorish King.
Cameos are not made for fun, or by accident or mistake. They represent serious endeavour of history and state record.
Who is this on the cameo, with the queen, presumably Queen Elizabeth the first. We know she never married and had many lovers.
Which one is this?
Who is this forgotten Princely Muurish lover of Elizabeth I:
quote:Originally posted by Mike111:
The Drake Jewel
One of the rites of the Elizabethan court was the giving of jewels to the Queen, usually to mark the New Year, and the occasional gift by the Queen of jewels and portrait miniatures to favored servants and defenders of the realm. After Drake circumnavigated the globe, he gave Queen Elizabeth a composite jewel token made with rare materials gathered from around the globe: a ship with an ebony hull, enameled gold taken from a prize off the Pacific coast of Mexico, a diamond from Africa. The ship was the instrument that extended the Queen’s potency around the world, so an apposite image for a gift meant to celebrate her.
More fascinating to present admirers of the Drake Jewel is the other side with the intaglio cut cameo of sardonyx featuring an African male bust in profile superimposed over the profile of a European. There is some debate whether the European is a regal woman or a Roman Briton of the sort William Camden was idealizing in his Britannia.
On one side is a state portrait of Elizabeth by the miniaturist Nicholas Hilliard, on the other a sardonyx cameo of double portrait busts, a regal woman and an African male.
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There is no credible source that the person on the side with the African is Queen Elizabeth.
But to make you happy let's say that it is Queen Elizabeth.
So, Iron this Drake jewel is proof. You found it ,the smoking gun. The Europeans changed and doctored everything but they forgot that Drake jewel for some reason. They forgot to smash it and make an all white repelacement for it. It was an oversight.Shyt happens
So now let's look to it's relevance Here's the story: In the late 1500s Sir Francis Drake (a white man) gave Queen Elizabeth (a white broad) a cameo commemorating the fact that she commited adultry with an African dude.
(Solid proof the first European royalty were Blacks)
***also Iron, note Egmond's teachings: European paintings which show people who actually look African are not real people. They put those in there to clue us in that a couple white queens who have some ambigous black tendancies (frizzy hair, Jolie lips) are actulally full on collard green eating black folk. They put the black servants on the side to remind us of that. It's like an arrow pointing at the queen saying > this one here was actually a sista
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In other words he (Johannes Morus) was ruler of Sicily and no he did not start out as a slave
prove it with sources
Brada people make threads saying that the royal families of Europe were founded by black people and the evidence are pictures of generic Moor's heads in some coats of Arms. You support these threads not questioning the premise and adding to them.
I believe that the number of Black people during any period with written history in North West Europe was very few , under 1%, and that they were not indigenous and almost all were brought in as slaves. A very tiny few of these few people became freed men and rose to non-noble military, court attendants, or governmental positions .
Do you believe this or do you believe all the history books were wrong and the royal families of Europe were founded by indigenous black people of Europe ?
quote:Originally posted by the lioness: [QUOTE]...
quote:Originally posted by Mike111:
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There is no credible source that the person on the side with the African is Queen Elizabeth.
But to make you happy let's say that it is Queen Elizabeth.
blah..blah..blah..
Here's the story: In the late 1500s Sir Francis Drake (a white man) gave Queen Elizabeth (a white broad) a cameo commemorating the fact that she commited adultry with an African dude.
(Solid proof the first European royalty were Blacks)
OK.....
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The man is not an African. He was a Muurish king of one of the European principalities like Il Moro, and Johannes Morus, and Maurice of Saxony, and Fergus Mohr first King of Caledonia, King Dubh Niger, one of the earlier Kings of Scotland.
That is clear enough as he is dressed in contemporary costume of that period, and his manner and bearing evocates the dignitary of the Muurish lords of Europe, the real whites.. The realism of the image is more convincing than many works of art of the same period. It was done with an intention of capturing and preserving the most minute details of the King's profile.
Regard!
Look him over and weep!
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In other words he (Johannes Morus) was ruler of Sicily and no he did not start out as a slave
prove it with sources
Brada people make threads saying that the royal families of Europe were founded by black people and the evidence are pictures of generic Moor's heads in some coats of Arms. You support these threads not questioning the premise and adding to them.
I believe that the number of Black people during any period with written history in North West Europe was very few , under 1%, and that they were not indigenous and almost all were brought in as slaves. A very tiny few of these few people became freed men and rose to non-noble military, court attendants, or governmental positions .
Do you believe this or do you believe all the history books were wrong and the royal families of Europe were founded by indigenous black people of Europe ?
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Yawn! Here we go again we with these right-wing nuts;
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
Muurish German Kings
Nuremberg Musuem:
Cardinal Lorenzo Pucci by Parmigianino 1529-30,
^^^^ IronLion has fvcked me again!!, I guess I was wrong
blah...blah...blah...
quote:Originally posted by the lioness: .....
Show me one case where a figure or head that appears in a coat of arms or crest is depicting a member of that family who has a first and last name. I doesn't eve have to be a "Moor". Just show us any
blah...blah..blah..
.
Muir Clan Scotland
Muurish Badge of Scotland
Muir was a name by which the people of Strathclyde-Briton of the English/Scotland borderland were initally known.
quote:Originally posted by the lioness: Iron you haven't been able to attribute a first an last name to any of the Moor images above. The failure continues.
You ask:
"Who is this forgotten Princely Muurish lover of Elizabeth I"
That's right you can't even name him:
And was Europe founded in the 16th century ?
Marijuana is a gateway drug
The Muirs, the Moores, the Douglases, the D'Medicis, the Jacopuccis, the Negris, the Saracenis. All Muurs!
We are un-digging the history buried by your people. The names twisted, the stories hidden. Your tribes are shameless and degenerate when it comes to lying.
The rest of your rants are unintelligible as usual. Are you high on methampethamine? Or coke, you do coke? Cagots love cocaine. When you are on substance I know cause you rambling... Posts: 7419 | From: North America | Registered: Mar 2009
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No IronLiar you White people hating Black racists are trying to steal Whites history, heritage, homeland & identities, the same as you try to steal the histories, heritages, homelands & identities of every other race.
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quote:Originally posted by DHDoxies: No IronLiar you White people hating Black racists are trying to steal Whites history, heritage, homeland & identities, the same as you try to steal the histories, heritages, homelands & identities of every other race.
Naughty gyal, naughty gyal...
I thought you was a Scottish Muur?
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quote:prove it with sources Brada people make threads saying that the royal families of Europe were founded by black people and the evidence are pictures of generic Moor's heads in some coats of Arms. You support these threads not questioning the premise and adding to them. I believe that the number of Black people during any period with written history in North West Europe was very few , under 1%, and that they were not indigenous and almost all were brought in as slaves. A very tiny few of these few people became freed men and rose to non-noble military, court attendants, or governmental positions .
Lioness to counter laziness and amnesia among you and others I'll let you look up Richard B Kaplan as a source hint Hohenstaufen dynasty arright??
O Btw you probably don't have to go very far just check out some of the relatively recent thread in which YOU WERE PART OF THE CONVERSATION!!Posts: 6546 | From: japan | Registered: Feb 2009
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quote:Originally posted by DHDoxies: No IronLiar you White people hating Black racists are trying to steal Whites history, heritage, homeland & identities, the same as you try to steal the histories, heritages, homelands & identities of every other race.
Naughty gyal, naughty gyal...
I thought you was a Scottish Muur?
Yes IronLiar my paternal Grandfather was in fact from Scotland & yes my surname is in fact Moore, but I most definitely am not Black. We've been through all that before LOL.
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^Very often slaves take the name of their masters. Maybe that's how her family became Moore's.
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L: A very tiny few of these few people became freed men and rose to non-noble military, court attendants, or governmental positions.
M: Began as slaves? With Mary of Burgundy, 1447, began as the Habsburgs.
Willful blindness, selective memory, and amnesia indeed. Whites started trickling into Europe mostly with the Germanic migrations starting in the 5th century gaining greater mass over the centuries.
The path that lead to Caesar began with white migrations beginning near 800 BC leading to the first presence of whites on the continent:
A morally treacherous woman who plays musical chairs with her questioning: raising a question, it's answered she fields another question (one she probably has asked a dozen times before - and had answered).
I don't know who the bigger fool is. She or we who respond to her thereby giving her credibility.
And please stop with your painted spams of blacks portrayed as white by your lying predecessors. You are all the same. You walk in their shadows.
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Mikey boy White people hating, Black racist, no as far as I know none of my ancestors were slaves. How do we know you didn't invade & enslave us and change all those portraits to Black to cover up our history & we discovered what you had done & changed them back LOL ROTFLMBO.
Marc, you are the liar. Trying to claim that Whites in Europe were Black. All you White people hating, White genocidist, Black racist, Black supremacists are the same, wanting to steal what isn't yours. Trying to deny other races of their history, their heritage, their identities, their homelands. You, Mikey boy, Eghead, IronLiar, Liar Winters, & ilk particularly love doing that to Whites because you want to demean & degrade Whites, you want to deny us of anything, to make us feel that we have nothing to be proud of as a people.
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Brada so far on Johanness Morus you have a caption to a picture. Where's a history book that discusses this man? Surely Golden Age of the Moor is not the only book on your shelf. The phrasing is also dubious "Vizer of Sicily" . Vizer is a word associated with Muslim Countries not Italian cities.
And there are no Coats of Arms or family Crests for Johannes Morus os the challenge to find a coat of arms with a member of the family on it with a first and last name has not been met. But didn't the nobles always put a picture of their founding patriarch on the family Coats of Arms? No they did not. They used varous heraldic symbols such as lions, wildmen and "moors"
And look at all the stuff about Libyans on the opposite page !!
Brada, go again to your bible, The Golden Age of the Moor and see if you can find a page saying the royal familes of Europe were founded by black people and that civilization in Western Europe was started by indigneous black people. That is a joke and afrocentrics don't support that, presence yes but not indigenous black Euroepans having started European civilization, no that's ridiculous. Guess what? The Moors didn't even invade Iberia until the 8th century. So what the hell happened? Were the Crusaders black too ? Afrocentric means centered in Africa not Europe !! Where will the madness end? I have already stated that Moors in the heraldry are not proof of this theory. It would have to be supported by written documentation. Where is the early writing of Europe in the first centuries after Christ talking about all the black people everywhere ??
Oh the white racists burned that stuff or are keeping it hidden in the basement of museums.
But they forgot to change the Coat of Arms ????
What kind of conspiracy is that ? That doesn't make sense. It's rantings of mad men, otherwise known as the LTC.
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quote:Originally posted by DHDoxies: Mikey boy White people hating, Black racist, no as far as I know none of my ancestors were slaves. How do we know you didn't invade & enslave us and change all those portraits to Black to cover up our history & we discovered what you had done & changed them back LOL ROTFLMBO.
Marc, you are the liar. Trying to claim that Whites in Europe were Black. All you White people hating, White genocidist, Black racist, Black supremacists are the same, wanting to steal what isn't yours. Trying to deny other races of their history, their heritage, their identities, their homelands. You, Mikey boy, Eghead, IronLiar, Liar Winters, & ilk particularly love doing that to Whites because you want to demean & degrade Whites, you want to deny us of anything, to make us feel that we have nothing to be proud of as a people.
Don't take it serious... you are being trolled.
Marc, Egmond et al are trolls who have been banned on hundreds of forums. No one takes their claims serious. They only post for a reaction.
See this post:
quote:I thought i would google search egmond's name since his posts are so trollish.
Turns out he has been banned on over 30 forums and is known as the ''dutch mega-troll''.
Among forums he has been banned from (direct links):
as someone posted from a forum egmond was banned at above -
''so i googled your name and you've been a very busy man and you've managed to get banned at every forum you posted at. you're gonna run out of forums soon''
--- Egmond probably isn't even black.
He's just posting his insane claims across the net (e.g that queen elizabeth or jane austen was black) for a reaction. He's a troll.
Egmond has been banned from every single forum except this forum. Why won't egypt search just get rid of him?
It'c clear he's a fake, has been banned on over 30 sites and just posts to get a reaction.
Egmond is known as the ''dutch mega troll'' over the net, and has had most forums block his ISP. He has been banned on over 30 forums for trolling (just the ones that appear on a google search) but probably hundred more. I'm sure Marc is exactly the same.
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