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http://medievalpoc.tumblr.com/search/1500s
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Black Turks? Mike, get in here.
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^You people have learned nothing!

A quick perusal of that trash is enough to note that by style and condition it is modern fraud. Combine that with known Albino fraud points - the birth of Jesus, and it's a no brainer. BTW - for future reference: the Mona lisa is the best preserved painting in the world, (believed painted about 1517) it has been "Touched-up" many times. Find a true picture of it and use that for comparison.

Ebony Allen - I'm about ready to give up on you.

Next - Black Turks, or more correctly, the original Black inhabitants of what is now called Turkey (land of the Turks): but was known as Anatolia, Asia Minor, The Eastern Roman Empire, The Byzantine Empire, previously.

As a curiosity:
All those who thought that it was always Turkey, and that Turks always lived there, please raise your hands.

It just goes in one ear, and out the next!

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quote:
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Black Turks? Mike, get in here.

What I find ironic is that there is absolutely no problem with Europeans or Eurasians entering Africa, no matter the time or region. Despite for the lack of evidence at times.


And at the same time, it's a absolute nitty for Africans to have entered Europe or Eurasia at any point in time.


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Black Turks, or more correctly, the original Black inhabitants of what is now called Turkey (land of the Turks): but was known as Anatolia, Asia Minor, The Eastern Roman Empire, The Byzantine Empire, previously.

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Anatolia (now Turkey) In the 8th century B.C, Gurgum, was the capital of a prosperous what is called "Neo-Hittite kingdom" (there was never any such people as Hittites, use Hattie) in southeastern Anatolia. It was also a center of production for stelae strongly marked by Hattie tradition, especially in their use of hieroglyphs.



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Nairi

During the Bronze Age collapse (13th to 12th centuries BC), the Nairi tribes were considered a force strong enough to contend with both Assyria and Hatti. The Battle of Nihriya, the culminating point of the hostilities between Hittites and Assyrians for control over the remnants of the former empire of Mitanni, took place there, circa 1230. Nairi was incorporated into Urartu during the 10th century BC.


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Relief from the ruins of Apadana, the Persian capital at Persepolis, about 500 B.C.

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Coins from the Island of Lesbos, circa 500 - 550 B.C.

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The Carpi or Carpiani were an ancient people that resided in the former Principality of Moldavia (modern eastern Romania). The archaeology of Moldavia in the period 106-318 shows the coexistence of two distinct material cultures, one sedentary, the other exhibiting the features of a nomadic steppe culture - the Albinos. The sedentary culture was on a material level not significantly higher than other barbarian regions on the fringes of the Roman empire. The ethnic affiliation of the Carpi remains disputed, as there is no direct evidence in the surviving ancient literary sources. A strong body of modern scholarly opinion considers that the Carpi were a tribe of the Dacian nation. Other scholars have linked the Carpi to a variety of ethnic groups, including Sarmatians, Thracians, Germans, and Celts).

For five hundred years the Carpathian Basin had been "the people's highway", with various White tribes such as the Visigoths, the Ostrogoths and the Lombards migrating across the area after sojourning for various lengths of time. Later, the Western Roman Empire collapsed under the stress of this migration of Germanic tribes, and Carpian pressure. After four centuries of existence, Roman civilization was swept away by the great migrations of Albino peoples.

Later, the Huns who had been chasing the Albinos out of Asia arrived: that was the military power that finally forced the withdrawal of the Roman legions. In the middle of the 5th century, Pannonia was ceded to the Huns by Byzantine Emperor Theodosius II.


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The fall of the Byzantine Empire

The end of the Byzantine Empire came when on April 2, 1453, Turkic Ottoman Sultan Mehmed II's army of some 80,000 men, and large numbers of irregulars, laid siege to the city of Constantinople. Despite a desperate last-ditch defense of the city by the massively outnumbered Christian forces, Constantinople finally fell to the Ottomans after a two-month siege on 29 May 1453. The last Byzantine Emperor, Constantine XI Palaiologos (though Byzantines were originally Greeks, by end, Slavs had made significant inroads), was last seen casting off his imperial regalia and throwing himself into hand-to-hand combat after the walls of the city were breached.


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Naturally the woman is "CERTAINLY NOT" a Turk.

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quote:
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Coins from the Island of Lesbos, circa 500 - 550 B.C.

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Göbekli Tepe - 11,500 B.C. Which is a hilltop sanctuary built on the highest point of an elongated mountain ridge about 15km northeast of the town of Şanlıurfa (Urfa) in southeast Turkey.


German Archaeologist Klaus Schmidt discovered: Gobeki Tepe.


This is actually what the author, German Archaeologist Klaus Schmidt mentioned.


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..."and would have attracted hunter-gatherers from Africa and the Levant."...

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history-archaeology/gobekli-tepe.html?device=ipad


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In addition, the Neolithic revolution was assumed to arise in the late Pleistocene Natufians and subsequently spread into Anatolia and Europe (Bar-Yosef 2002), and the first Anatolian farmers, Neolithic to Bronze Age Mediterraneans and to some degree other Neolithic-Bronze Age Europeans, show morphological affinities with the Natufians (and indirectly with sub-Saharan populations; Angel 1972; Brace et al. 2005), in concordance with a process of demie diffusion accompanying the
extension of the Neolithic revolution (Cavalli-Sforza et al. 1994)."

--Cranial Discrete Traits in a Byzantine Population and Eastern Mediterranean Population Movements
F. X. Ricaut, M. Waelkens. Human Biology, Volume 80, Number 5, October 2008, pp. 535-564

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Turks in the west:

Turks were first introduced in the west as Slave Soldiers of the idiot Black Arabs.

The Tajikistanian (Central Asian) poet Rudaki (858-941), in a poem about the Samanid emir's court, describes how “row upon row” of Turkish slave guards were part of its adornment. From these Turkic guard ranks two military families arose—the Simjurids and Ghaznavids—who ultimately proved disastrous to the Samanids. The Simjurids received an appendage in the Kuhestan region of southern Khorasan. Alp Tigin founded the Ghaznavids when he established himself at Ghazna (modern Ghazni, Afghanistan) in 962. He and fellow Turk, Abu al-Hasan Simjuri, as Samanid generals, competed with each other for the governorship of Khorasan and control of the Samanid Empire by placing on the throne emirs they could dominate.

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quote:
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[QB] Turks in the west:

Turks were first introduced in the west as Slave Soldiers of the idiot Black Arabs.


why were the Black Arabs idiots?
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Blacks in Turkey are being taught that they were brought there as SLAVES!

As is normal and natural with Whites and their Mulattoes: No lie is too cruel or too big, in the furtherance of the White lie of presence and accomplishment in the ancient world. Thus today, the hapless and now ignorant of their own history, indigenous Blacks of Anatolia, are being taught by their Turk conquers, that it is THEY, the Turks: who are the original people of Anatolia. And THEY, the indigenous Black people, were brought there as SLAVES by the Turks! Sadly, this cruel ruse is perpetrated on all Blacks in Muslim countries ruled by ethnic Turks. And those poor people, having been made ignorant by their conquers, and having no clue as to their true history, are left no choice but to believe what they are told.


http://www.realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Misc/Data/newsDetail_getNewsById.action.htm?load=detay&link=141522

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Ebony Allan
Troll Patrol and Mike think these are black people.

Don't you think they take things a little too far?

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
Coins from the Island of Lesbos, circa 500 - 550 B.C.

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Mike can't tell the difference
What do you mean?


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which suggested that the African ancestry in West Eurasians is at least as closely related to East Africans (e.g. Hapmap3 Luhya (LWK)) as to West Africans (e.g. Nigerian Yoruba (YRI)) (the same analyses show that there is no evidence of relatedness to Chadic populations like Bulala) (Text S5 and Figure S12).
-- Moorjani et al. 2011
The History of African Gene Flow into Southern Europeans, Levantines, and Jews



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The forehead was retreating and the brow ridges were always prominent, the cheek bones were rather broad and the nose also was broad, in some case inclining to extreme platyrrhine…There can be no doubt that this type is that which has been described by Sergi, Giuffrida-Ruggeri, and Fleure, and named the Eurafican type…

L.H. Dudley & D. Talbot Rice the Field Museum and Oxford Expedition (1931)

http://www.archive.org/stream/lacropoledesused01dieu#page/2/mode/2up


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To estimate the proportion of sub-Saharan African ancestry in the various West Eurasian populations that showed significant evidence of mixture, we used f4 Ancestry Estimation [21], a method which produces accurate estimates of ancestry proportions, even in the absence of data from the true ancestral populations. This method estimates mixture proportions by fitting a model of mixture between two ancestral populations, followed by (possibly large) population-specific genetic drift. Briefly, we calculate a statistic that is proportional to the correlation in the allele frequency difference between West Eurasians and sub-Saharan Africans, and divide it by the same statistic for a population of sub-Saharan African ancestry, like YRI (Figure 2). This method has been shown through simulation to be robust to ascertainment bias on the SNP arrays and deviations from the assumed model of mixture (e.g. date and number of mixture events) [21].




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The finding of sub-Saharan African ancestry in West Eurasians predicts that there will be a signature of admixture LD in the populations that experienced this mixture. That is, there will be LD between all markers that are highly differentiated between the two ancestral populations and the allele will be strongly correlated to the local ancestry [23]. Hence, there will be chromosomal segments of African ancestry with lengths that reflect the number of recombination events that have occurred since mixture, and thus can be used to estimate an admixture date. Figure 3 shows that this expected pattern is observed empirically in the decay of LD in four example West Eurasian populations, where we enhance the effects of admixture LD by weighting the SNP comparisons by frequency difference between the ancestral Africans (YRI) and ancestral West Eurasians (CEU). In the Southern European, Jewish and Levantine populations, this procedure produces clear evidence of admixture LD (Figure 3). However, Northern Europeans (Russians in Figure 3) do not show any evidence of African gene flow, consistent with the 4 Population and 3 Population Test results and Figure 1. Similar results are seen for other West Eurasian and Jewish populations that show evidence of mixture in the 4 Population Test.




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The history of human migrations from Africa into West Eurasia is only partially understood. Archaeological and genetic evidence indicate that anatomically modern humans arrived in Europe from an African source at least 45,000 years ago, following the initial dispersal out of Africa [1], [2]. However, it is known that Southern Europeans and Levantines (people from modern day Palestine, Israel, Syria and Jordan) have also inherited genetic material of African origin due to subsequent migrations.
-- Moorjani et al. 2011
The History of African Gene Flow into Southern Europeans, Levantines, and Jews

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quote:
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Originally posted by Mike111:
Turks in the west:

Turks were first introduced in the west as Slave Soldiers of the idiot Black Arabs.


why were the Black Arabs idiots?
The Persians (Parsa and Mede, were originally people of low quality): As were the Assyrians and Arabs. By that, I mean people of no prior accomplishment, as were the original Albinos.

People like that have only one currency: their willingness to kill or be killed, in pursuit of getting what they consider, "their share".

Perhaps someone else who has given the subject serious thought might want to answer the question.

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quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
Blacks in Turkey are being taught that they were brought there as SLAVES!

As is normal and natural with Whites and their Mulattoes: No lie is too cruel or too big, in the furtherance of the White lie of presence and accomplishment in the ancient world. Thus today, the hapless and now ignorant of their own history, indigenous Blacks of Anatolia, are being taught by their Turk conquers, that it is THEY, the Turks: who are the original people of Anatolia. And THEY, the indigenous Black people, were brought there as SLAVES by the Turks! Sadly, this cruel ruse is perpetrated on all Blacks in Muslim countries ruled by ethnic Turks. And those poor people, having been made ignorant by their conquers, and having no clue as to their true history, are left no choice but to believe what they are told.


http://www.realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Misc/Data/newsDetail_getNewsById.action.htm?load=detay&link=141522

^^^ Mike's link:

Who are these people? Mehmet, Ali, Ayşe, Rabia, Arzu, Emine, Hatice and Hüseyin, to name a few. Everything is typically Turkish except for one detail: They are black. Afro-Turks, as they prefer to be called, are the descendents of African citizens of the Ottoman Empire.....


Gülay Kayacan, who works for the History Foundation, an institute that researches and publishes articles on Turkish history, says that some of the Afro-Turks are descendents of slaves who used to work on farms or in houses. Slaves working in agriculture were concentrated in areas where cotton production was high. It is for this reason that most Afro-Turks today live on the Aegean coast and some in the Mediterranean region.

“Some 10,000 slaves, black and white, were brought into the Ottoman Empire every year. During the constitutional monarchy period (1876-1878), slavery was abolished and former slaves settled in areas where they used to work. Some of them were even given land by the government,” Kayacan says.

Not all or the Afro-Turks’ ancestors were slaves. Some came from the island of Crete following the Lausanne Treaty, signed in 1924. This treaty called for a population exchange between the Greek Orthodox citizens of the young Turkish Republic and the Muslim citizens of Greece. Most of the black on Crete were Muslims, so they were subjected to this population exchange. Like many others who were moved through this population exchange, they settled on the Aegean coast, mainly around İzmir. Eighty-year-old Emine Konaçer’s mother and Olpak’s family were among these immigrants.

Olpak has authored two books: “Slave Woman Kemale,” which tells the story of his own family, a slave family from Kenya that lived on Crete and had to migrate to Turkey, and “The Shores of Slaves,” in which Olpak presents a collection of stories by other Afro-Turks.

“I am a third-generation Afro-Turk. My grandparents were slaves. The first generation lived through the sad events, the second generation tried to forget and deny these events, but the third generation wants to know what happened and how,” Olpak says, adding: “We are black and we are from here. We are a part of this rich Anatolian culture and we are ready to make an effort to be noticed by the society. I believe that in this way we will be able to contribute to the tolerant culture of this beautiful land.” Olpak has a wish for his community: to celebrate Dana Bayramı on the national level one day as a festival of tolerance.

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^As a matter of fact that is from this website,


http://www.todayszaman.com/newsDetail_getNewsById.action?load=detay&link=141522

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quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
Turks in the west:

Turks were first introduced in the west as Slave Soldiers of the idiot Black Arabs.


why were the Black Arabs idiots?
The Persians (Parsa and Mede, were originally people of low quality): As were the Assyrians and Arabs. By that, I mean people of no prior accomplishment, as were the original Albinos.

People like that have only one currency: their willingness to kill or be killed, in pursuit of getting what they consider, "their share".

Perhaps someone else who has given the subject serious thought might want to answer the question.

You go out of your way to say Persian were African type people because their hair was curly only to go on to say that they were unaccomplished bums.
Isn't Persepolis an "accomplishment" ?

further Persian contributions in this wiki entry:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Iran

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Ebony Allan
Troll Patrol and Mike think these are black people.

Don't you think they take things a little too far?

Where and when did I state this? [Roll Eyes]
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quote:
Originally posted by Trollkillah # Ish Gebor:
^As a matter of fact that is from this website,


http://www.todayszaman.com/newsDetail_getNewsById.action?load=detay&link=141522

why are you putting up the same link Mike put up and I quoted with the link again?

Do we need the same link three times?

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quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:
Originally posted by Trollkillah # Ish Gebor:
^As a matter of fact that is from this website,


http://www.todayszaman.com/newsDetail_getNewsById.action?load=detay&link=141522

why are you putting up the same link Mike put up and I quoted with the link again?

Do we need the same link three times?

I am putting up the link so people can see the ORIGINAL SOURCE!

Do you have a problem with that? [Big Grin]


Let me inform you, with those crochet eyes. It's a different link. It's not the same, dumbo! You have trouble with counting as well, pathetic.

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quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
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Originally posted by Mike111:
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
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Originally posted by Mike111:
Turks in the west:

Turks were first introduced in the west as Slave Soldiers of the idiot Black Arabs.


why were the Black Arabs idiots?
The Persians (Parsa and Mede, were originally people of low quality): As were the Assyrians and Arabs. By that, I mean people of no prior accomplishment, as were the original Albinos.

People like that have only one currency: their willingness to kill or be killed, in pursuit of getting what they consider, "their share".

Perhaps someone else who has given the subject serious thought might want to answer the question.

You go out of your way to say Persian were African type people because their hair was curly only to go on to say that they were unaccomplished bums.
Isn't Persepolis an "accomplishment" ?

further Persian contributions in this wiki entry:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Iran

Awesome wiki page,


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which suggested that the African ancestry in West Eurasians is at least as closely related to East Africans (e.g. Hapmap3 Luhya (LWK)) as to West Africans (e.g. Nigerian Yoruba (YRI)) (the same analyses show that there is no evidence of relatedness to Chadic populations like Bulala) (Text S5 and Figure S12).
-- Moorjani et al. 2011
The History of African Gene Flow into Southern Europeans, Levantines, and Jews



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Mike well you clarify that these are black people to educate Troll Patrol. I assumed his silences and support means he agrees with you

thanks

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Mike well you clarify that these are black people to educate Troll Patrol. I assumed his silences and support means he agrees with you

thanks

First off, I asked you and when I ever stated something on this image, which I have never seen before.

Secondly, I certainly would appreciate a explanation, thanks in advance.


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http://sdt.sulinet.hu/Player/Default.aspx?g=c90420b9-66ba-411f-861c-811fa8238da1&cid=08505a90-38b3-

Translation from Magyar:

"Rites of the early production cultures" Gímszarvasvadászatot painting, Catal Hülyük, BC 5800th k.



Göbekli Tepe - 11,500 B.C. Which is a hilltop sanctuary built on the highest point of an elongated mountain ridge about 15km northeast of the town of Şanlıurfa (Urfa) in southeast Turkey.


German Archaeologist Klaus Schmidt discovered: Gobeki Tepe.


This is actually what the author, German Archaeologist Klaus Schmidt mentioned.


quote:
..."and would have attracted hunter-gatherers from Africa and the Levant."...

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history-archaeology/gobekli-tepe.html?device=ipad


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In addition, the Neolithic revolution was assumed to arise in the late Pleistocene Natufians and subsequently spread into Anatolia and Europe (Bar-Yosef 2002), and the first Anatolian farmers, Neolithic to Bronze Age Mediterraneans and to some degree other Neolithic-Bronze Age Europeans, show morphological affinities with the Natufians (and indirectly with sub-Saharan populations; Angel 1972; Brace et al. 2005), in concordance with a process of demie diffusion accompanying the
extension of the Neolithic revolution (Cavalli-Sforza et al. 1994)."

--Cranial Discrete Traits in a Byzantine Population and Eastern Mediterranean Population Movements
F. X. Ricaut, M. Waelkens. Human Biology, Volume 80, Number 5, October 2008, pp. 535-564

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stick to the time period, Gurgum 750 BC not 11,000 years in Göbekli Tepe

You do this often, assume populations many thousands of years apart are the same

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stick to the time period, Gurgum 750 BC not 11,000 years in Göbekli Tepe

You do this often, assume populations many thousands of years apart are the same

I think it's more than sufficient.


See the title.

ancient black turkish


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By the way you hold a patent on often assume populations many thousands of years apart are the same. You do this all the time.

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It's dumb to post a population from 750 BC and then roght after post one from 11,500 B.C.
You do this kind of thing all the time. That's why most of your thraeds with all the quotes are irrelevant, no sense of time period

Also of note Mike doesn't believe in transitional or intermediate types.
His view is that all middle looking people are the result of mixing between blacks and lighter skinned people, no gradual transitions.

Also I'm the lioness. So if I'm in the s host Anne Robinson role. The commentary "you are the weakest link" is coming from the lioness outward. In other words, that picture's message is directed at the viewer, the viewer is the weakest link.
The lioness in the picture is the one delivering the message obviously

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quote:
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It's dumb to post a population from 750 BC and then roght after post one from 11,500 B.C.
You do this kind of thing all the time. That's why most of your thraeds with all the quotes are irrelevant, no sense of time period

Also of note Mike doesn't believe in transitional or intermediate types.
His view is that all middle looking people are the result of mixing between blacks and lighter skinned people, no gradual transitions

What is the title of this thread? I posted on that topic. That's the moral of the story.


What you do all the time is picture spamming.


You yourself stated that Mike was going to elaborate on the image you've reposted. I never seen that image, so I can't elaborate on it. Do you understand this? Or is this too difficult for you to understand?

I have not posted or reposted that image. If you had any common sense you would have explained what that image is about. But you didn't, such wasted opportunity.


However, you do hide behind Mike "his believes" on intermediate types. So you don't have to give explanation to your false and baseless claims. Such a pity. But I will hunt you down.


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The picture above is a lioness. And the message is clear.

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quote:
Originally posted by Trollkillah # Ish Gebor: So you don't have to give explanation to your false and baseless claims. Such a pity.
I gave you an explanation on adpatation and transitional types, clown

Not everybody needs to post the same thing over and over.

Mike will set you straight shortly to the effect
1)"Hittites" are a fabrication, Gurgum people were black (aka "blurks")
2) there is no such thing as gradual evolutionary trasitions between interconintental phenotypes.Such "transitional looking" people are not transitional they are the result of miscegenation

This is Mike's thread, therfore we have to go by HIS retarded theories

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quote:
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Originally posted by Trollkillah # Ish Gebor: So you don't have to give explanation to your false and baseless claims. Such a pity.
I gave you an explanation on adpatation and transitional types, clown

Not everybody needs to post the same thing over and over.

Mike will set you straight shortly to the effect
1)"Hittites" are a fabrication, Gurgum people were black
2) there is no such thing as gradual evolutionary trasitions between interconintental phenotypes.Such "transitional looking" people are not transitional they are the result of miscegenation

This is Mike's thread, therfore we have to go by HIS retarded theories

No, you did not. That the problem with you.


So I am still waiting...for you to explain how whites / Europeans appeared, stemming from your "stereotype negro/ Africans. Without having a transition.

What you've stated that it's "could be". But that's not a explanation.


"Or they could be someone who comes from a popualtion that left Africa but settled only slightly more North. Therefore they might look partially African but also take on colder conditions traits. So both situations could produce a mulatto looking person"


This thesis is not a scientific explanation. It's a rant. Then you go one by stating "cold condition traits"? More idiotic babble.


Also, this is Malibudusul's thread.


Lastly, the modern day population in Turkey is of recent times. They themselves say they came from Asia.

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persistant Idiot, I answered the question three times. If you don't like the answer that's your problem
I don't have to answer to your liking. I won't reanswer questions until you like the answer Mr puppy dog following me around.
You ask for an answer you get an answer. You don't like the answer, say it's gibberish, and just keep aksing it over an over agin and other people's threads in a bullying attempt, in other people's threads on other topics, one of the various obssessive ways you destroy threads

quote:
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there was a transition and I have always said that
what is your problem? cold adaptation

you are thick as a block of wood, (meaning your head)

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It does explain it's mainstream anthropology, tons of books on it. Cold adpatation, lowered UV, some neanderthal admix maybe.

If you want to go against mainstream science that's your problem. Make a thread of your alternate theory and stop trying to get me to do it for you.

You are just too embarrassed to do it, worried about what people might think

Anybody who has been following the lioness knows I have elaborated on these topics many times before. I have nothing to prove, won't waste time on people whose mind is on a tape loop. And it's interesting how you abandon the transition concept when lit comes to Turkey yet at the same time trying to get me to redundantly talk about it over and over again,
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Awesome wiki page.

Ancient technology in Persia

The Qanat (a water management system used for irrigation) originated in pre-Achaemenid Persia. The oldest and largest known qanat is in the Iranian city of Gonabad, which, after 2,700 years, still provides drinking and agricultural water to nearly 40,000 people.


There is no such a thing as pre-Achaemenid Persia. Achaemenid is the name of the first Persian dynasty. Persia did not exist before the Parsa and Medes who together were called Persians arrived in the land called Elam.

The great accomplishments were the work of the Elamites, NOT the Persians. Persian building projects were done by foreigners.

Please see my comments about how Albinos lie as a matter of course. It's just natural to them.

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Awesome wiki page.

Ancient technology in Persia

The Qanat (a water management system used for irrigation) originated in pre-Achaemenid Persia. The oldest and largest known qanat is in the Iranian city of Gonabad, which, after 2,700 years, still provides drinking and agricultural water to nearly 40,000 people.


There is no such a thing as pre-Achaemenid Persia. Achaemenid is the name of the first Persian dynasty. Persia did not exist before the Parsa and Medes who together were called Persians arrived in the land called Elam.

The great accomplishments were the work of the Elamites, NOT the Persians. Persian building projects were done by foreigners.

Please see my comments about how Albinos lie as a matter of course. It's just natural to them.

My wiki argument was based on sarcasm. And like most independent wiki sources this was BS too.
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quote:
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And like most independent wiki sources this was BS too.

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The Persians (Parsa and Mede, were originally people of low quality): As were the Assyrians and Arabs. By that, I mean people of no prior accomplishment, as were the original Albinos.


^^^ Troll, do you cosign this?

(watch him not answer)

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explain why this wikipedia article is BS


Science and technology in Iran

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Iran

you will have to be a little specific rather than just saying information on wikipedia is false because it's wikipedia

and after that I will assume anything you didn't criticize in th article is legit about ancient Iran technology

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This is the racist garbage world history website that Troll Patrol thinks is more accurate than wikipedia


http://realhistoryww.com/

aka Mike111 webiste (aka the Black March of the Titans)

Troll Patrol you support Mike's racism, that meas you are also racist

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Ha,ha,ha,ha:

Having exercised you power over Negroes by getting them to foolishly try to define who or what is Black, ah la Doxie's foolishness. You are now feeling your power and itching to take me on.

Relax, your little victory is well worn. Everyone can do it, and just about everyone has done it. So getting Negroes to agree that I am a racist is of little value, after all, who really cares what they think.

Last I checked, the good people of the world is trying to educate them, while the scum like you is still trying to use them, and get them to do your bidding.

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[QB] Ha,ha,ha,ha:

Having exercised you power over Negroes by getting them to foolishly try to define who or what is Black

your whole website top to bottom is devoted to defining blacks and whites, enough hypocrisy

you are not interested in culture unless it pertains to "race"

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^Last I checked, Realhistoryww.com was about defining Albinos and those primarily of Albino extraction - of All phenotypes, including Mongols. Because these are the people who are subverting and falsifying human history, to make it seem that they are original people, and the creators of mans civilizations: instead of being simply the Albinos of the original people.

The corollary being that ALL natural Humans are Black, regardless of phenotype.

It seems to me that Realhistoryww.com mission is to reveal truth, and expose lies: what's wrong with that?

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^Last I checked, Realhistoryww.com was about defining Albinos and those primarily of Albino extraction - of All phenotypes, including Mongols. Because these are the people who are subverting and falsifying human history, to make it seem that they are original people, and the creators of mans civilizations: instead of being simply the Albinos of the original people.

The corollary being that ALL natural Humans are Black, regardless of phenotype.

It seems to me that Realhistoryww.com mission is to reveal truth, and expose lies: what's wrong with that?

>> The history of mankind is longer inside Africa before man left African than it is after mankind left Africa.

As you know Africa has the highest rates of albinism in the world and Tanzania the highest rate for an individual country.
It's a condition caused by nature, therefore natural

You must agree the conslusion is crystal clear.
White people originated in Africa


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quote:
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The history of mankind is longer inside Africa before man left African than it is after mankind left Africa.

As you know Africa has the highest rates of albinism in the world and Tanzania the highest rate for an individual country.
It's a condition caused by nature, therefore natural

You must agree the conclusion is crystal clear.
White people originated in Africa

Let's be clear what we are talking about.

Every time an Albino makes a Baby with another Albino, a new albino is created. Even those with noticeable admixture, skin color is stable, it will not change until some new input changes it. So if that's what you are talking about, then European types and White Mongols make many more Albinos than Africans.

But if you mean the creation of "New" Albinos by Black people, then you are correct, Africans make many more "New" Albinos.

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
The history of mankind is longer inside Africa before man left African than it is after mankind left Africa.

As you know Africa has the highest rates of albinism in the world and Tanzania the highest rate for an individual country.
It's a condition caused by nature, therefore natural

You must agree the conclusion is crystal clear.
White people originated in Africa

Let's be clear what we are talking about.

Every time an Albino makes a Baby with another Albino, a new albino is created. Even those with noticeable admixture, skin color is stable, it will not change until some new input changes it. So if that's what you are talking about, then European types and White Mongols make many more Albinos than Africans.

But if you mean the creation of "New" Albinos by Black people, then you are correct, Africans make many more "New" Albinos.

the ancestors of white people in Europe are the white people of Africa. White people originated in Africa.
Far before people even left Africa

White people originated in Africa.

period end of story,
I don't want to hear anymore

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quote:
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The ancestors of white people in Europe are the white people of Africa. White people originated in Africa.
Far before people even left Africa

White people originated in Africa.

period end of story,
I don't want to hear anymore

True, European Albinos originated in Africa, but that is a logical assertion, there is no proof of it. And you go too far, no one knows when the first Albino appeared, or why. Perhaps there was a major radiation event on Earth which caused "P" genes to mutate.

Other questions to be answered:
Why were Dravidian Albinos the only Albinos to mate amongst themselves almost exclusively, instead of actively searching for non-Albino mates, so as to have their offspring returned to normalcy?

While it is true that many Mongol type Albinos also mate amongst themselves, the fact that they are so admixed demonstrates that they do not do so exclusively.

Why did Dravidians and Blacks with Mongol type features, almost completely abandon Africa, along with their Albinos? Could it have been something that lamins ancestors said?

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quote:
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[qb] The ancestors of white people in Europe are the white people of Africa. White people originated in Africa.
Far before people even left Africa

White people originated in Africa.

period end of story,
I don't want to hear anymore

True, European Albinos originated in Africa, but that is a logical assertion, there is no proof of it. And you go too far, no one knows when the first Albino appeared, or why. Perhaps there was a major radiation event on Earth which caused "P" genes to mutate.

Other questions to be answered:
Why were Dravidian Albinos the only Albinos to mate amongst themselves almost exclusively, instead of actively searching for non-Albino mates, so as to have their offspring returned to normalcy?


they knew better than to mate with their oppressor, and thus the world became theirs
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Lioness say: The history of mankind is longer inside Africa before man left African than it is after mankind left Africa.

As you know Africa has the highest rates of albinism in the world and Tanzania the highest rate for an individual country.
It's a condition caused by nature, therefore natural

You must agree the conslusion is crystal clear.
White people originated in Africa.

Lioness say: the ancestors of white people in Europe are the white people of Africa. White people originated in Africa.
Far before people even left Africa

White people originated in Africa.

period end of story,
I don't want to hear anymore

Mena say: Lioness you maybe right that there were white people in North Africa before Asia and Europe. I google German are from Egypt because I saw that theory in a conspiracy theory website. I saw a post in answer yahoo saying white people are from North Africa because Northern Europe and North Asia was frozen during the ice age. White people could only live in North Africa were the temperature was milder before the sahara desert and today in coastal North Africa. The poster used the Egyptian mural of races to show the proof of white people presence in North Africa. The white Lebu or Lybian in the Egyptian mural of race have pale skin, light hairs and beards and tattoo.

There is the African traditional story of renegade priest Yakub who created the white race by th selective breeding of African albino. That white race cause so much problem in Africa that the black African captured all the white people and kick them out of Africa to Central Asia.

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Egyptian Mural of races showing white Libyan

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Egyptian mural of races

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Egyptian Mural of Races

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Egyptian Mural of Races

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Mena7 - You DO understand that those are "Modern" drawings - don't you?
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No Mike I didn't know that.

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