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My point? Give thanks to Martin Lucas, a white man, for helping the Africanist cause.

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Why? I'm not going to deny Lucas Martin contribution but it seems ridiculous act like this is good when knowledge is meant for all and it's suppose to be presented without bias.
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I was brought up to give thanks regardless where it came from.

http://www.dnatribes.com/digest_articles.php

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Please hear no tone, it's just the way I talk.


Lucas Martin's DNAtribes was for anybody interested and gave out DNA info to any and all who paid for a DNA analysis just the same as 23&Me or any of 'em.

I don't understand this "for anybody" concept always hurled at blacks as if Western white ethos don't permeate all websites by Western Whites.

Coming up, I read book after mainstream book where the word us is used and it only ever meant Western White people. In fact one anthropologist, MDW Jeffries (1951) point blank stated "us not negro" in his West African Review article "The Negro Enigma".
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Originally posted by Tukuler:

Remember Hamiticism is inseparably linked
to NE and E Africa as AMH Caucas(ian/oid)
and Jeffreys was clear that modern man
quote:
is our stock, not Negro
... us, not Negro ...
our group, not that of the Negro ... Thus
in Africa, from the Old Stone Age to modern
times, Modern Man is the tool maker. Nowhere
is the Negro, ..., associated with these stone age cultures.


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I thank Martin beyond the grave for inspiring my methodology of comparing aDNA autosomal STRs to current ethnic group databases. It allowed me to narrow down with precision the affinities of the royal Armanas royals none of whom were even anything like a Levatine plurality.

Between Armarna STRs and Abusir whole genome we see the Amarnas were Africans ruling AE unlike the Abusir 3 who are used to promote Levantine AE without any African component except as post dynastic slaves.

My methodology beats the pants off any "Black" scientist out there who could do no better than an online percentage calculator limited 3-5 very broad choices. Africa's a big arse continent so nn% African is ethnically meaningless.


Examples
Amenophis - http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=010367#000001
Amenophis walkthru - http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=010077;p=11#000524
Thuya - http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=010367#000023
_____ - http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=010423;p=1#000022

Nothing pro-Africa biased about my methodology
Rammses III - http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=009452#000007
Yuya - http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=009392#000006

As long as they have a STR database individual ethnies can be compared to targets. Here checking Amenophis's STRs against the Karamajong
http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=010356;p=9#000442

Amarnas plus Ramses&Son's STRs compared to various scientists' databases
* abd el Hafez's seven Egyptian populations
* Omran's Upper Egypt only STRs
* Okolie's (2017) Yoruba STRs
begins here http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=010257#000043


There's a reason CODIS STRs are now avoided like the plague, along with TreeMix, in biogeographic population articles.

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When, where, who? data Are we comparing apples and oranges. There are no CODIS STR released. Confirmed by me and later HAAk per email.


Apples and orange?


"Between Armarna STRs and Abusir whole genome we see the Amarnas were Africans ruling AE unlike the Abusir 3 who are used to promote Levantine AE without any African component except as post dynastic slaves."

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Nice work. Been awhile since I got deep into this DNA. But the Abusir? Using the slave theory is no different than Europeans explain away ...presence of African DNA in high culture...as slaves.

Where is the DNA, STR, apples and apples, showing that the Abusir were NOT SSA?

To the newbies - imagine you looking at the entire genome stretched out over miles. Take a magnifying glass look at locations where the CODIS STRs should be present. Guess what? Those locations are NOT there. “Nucleotide bases” at that location are GONE!!! All >21 locations STR are gone. Suspicious?! ! That is an understatement. Confronted, Haak, made up a BS story which is highly improbable. So, if they were really Levantine …..Slaves…., there would be no need hide or remove the data. You know that.


But he could not foresee new DNA tools coming out to unravel his lie.


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Examples
Amenophis - http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=010367#000001
Amenophis walkthru - http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=010077;p=11#000524
Thuya - http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=010367#000023
_____ - http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=010423;p=1#000022

Nothing pro-Africa biased about my methodology
Rammses III - http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=009452#000007
Yuya - http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=009392#000006

As long as they have a STR database individual ethnies can be compared to targets. Here checking Amenophis's STRs against the Karamajong
http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=009392#000006

Amarnas plus Ramses&Son's STRs compared to various scientists' databases
* abd el Hafez's seven Egyptian populations
* Omran's Upper Egypt only STRs
* Okolie's (2017) Yoruba STRs
begins here http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=010257#000043


There's a reason CODIS STRs are now avoided like the plague, along with TreeMix, in biogeographic population articles.



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If it wasn't for DNATribes we would be still arguing whether Tut was R1b-M269 and idiotic debate like that.

They showed us how simple it is to calculate geographic origin and relationship with published STRs.Now anyone can do it.

They made it known to a wide audience that Rameses 111 and Man E was south Saharans.

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quote:
Originally posted by rphaeldenver:
If it wasn't for DNATribes we would be still arguing whether Tut was R1b-M269 and idiotic debate like that.

They showed us how simple it is to calculate geographic origin and relationship with published STRs.Now anyone can do it.

They made it known to a wide audience that Rameses 111 and Man E was south Saharans.

Actually we still are arguing about that haplogroup.
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