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https://www.today.com/video/get-an-exclusive-first-look-at-the-face-of-king-tut-s-mother-queen-nefertiti-1153878083619

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/could-this-be-the-face-of-nefertiti-300593330.html

Mena: Afrocentric historians like Cheikh Anta Diop and others, egyptSearch Forum posters has proven scientifically and without reasonable doubt that the Ancient Egyptian civilization was a Black African civilization. Despite those facts Western scholars, historians, teachers and artists are representing the Ancient Black Egyptians as modern White Europeans and Mulato Arabs.

History in the modern world is not about telling the truth but it is about racial propaganda. Black people are the original people of the World, the legitimate owner of planet earth and the builders and rulers of most of world civilizations until 500 years ago when the White Europeans colonized the world. By falsely presenting the Ancient Egyptians as a White civilization the White scholars are deceiving the world to make them believe that the Western World have a legitimate right to dominate and exploit the world.

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Could This Be The Face Of Nefertiti?
'EXPEDITION UNKNOWN' WITH JOSH GATES REVEALS FACIAL RECONSTRUCTION OF 'YOUNGER LADY' MUMMY IN TRAVEL CHANNEL TWO-PART SPECIAL BEGINNING FEBRUARY 7 at 9 P.M. ET/PT

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NEW YORK, Feb. 5, 2018 /PRNewswire/ -- In a historic forensic reconstruction project, Travel Channel is revealing the face of King Tut's mother for the first time. The groundbreaking endeavor will be featured in a two-part special of the network's hit series "Expedition Unknown" with Josh Gates, airing on Wednesday, February 7 and February 14 at 9 p.m. ET/PT. The extraordinary sculpture provides an accurate depiction of her appearance in life and bolsters the theory that the 3,400-year-old mummy of King Tut's biological mother, nicknamed the "Younger Lady," is also Queen Nefertiti.

The facial reconstruction of the “Younger Lady” mummy next to a 3D replica of its head created from digital mapping.
The facial reconstruction of the “Younger Lady” mummy next to a 3D replica of its head created from digital mapping.
Host of ‘Expedition Unknown,’ Josh Gates examines the sculpture of the “Younger Lady” mummy in the Paris studio of paleoartist Elisabeth Daynès.
Host of ‘Expedition Unknown,’ Josh Gates examines the sculpture of the “Younger Lady” mummy in the Paris studio of paleoartist Elisabeth Daynès.
The facial reconstruction sculpture of the 3,400-year-old mummy of King Tut’s biological mother, nicknamed the “Younger Lady,” as seen on Travel Channel’s ‘Expedition Unknown.'
The facial reconstruction sculpture of the 3,400-year-old mummy of King Tut’s biological mother, nicknamed the “Younger Lady,” as seen on Travel Channel’s ‘Expedition Unknown.'

The facial reconstruction of the “Younger Lady” mummy next to a 3D replica of its head created from digital mapping.Host of ‘Expedition Unknown,’ Josh Gates examines the sculpture of the “Younger Lady” mummy in the Paris studio of paleoartist Elisabeth Daynès.The facial reconstruction sculpture of the 3,400-year-old mummy of King Tut’s biological mother, nicknamed the “Younger Lady,” as seen on Travel Channel’s ‘Expedition Unknown.'
During the special episodes, Gates investigates three of the most powerful and elusive women in ancient Egypt – Hatshepsut, Cleopatra and Nefertiti. An hour-long special, "Expedition Unknown: After the Hunt," will premiere at 10 p.m. ET/PT, immediately following each episode. The after-specials will revisit Gates' journey as he and his team dig deeper into their astounding findings, further analyze key evidence and reveal never-before-seen footage from the expedition.

Gates and the "Expedition Unknown" team, along with noted Egyptologist Dr. Aidan Dodson of Bristol University, received permission from Egypt's Ministry of Antiquities and The Egyptian Museum to remove the protective glass case covering the mummy to examine her further. Using the latest 3D imaging technology, the mummy's face was digitally mapped to create a replica of her head. With this model and forensic analysis, paleoartist Elisabeth Daynès, known for her recreation of King Tut in 2005, sculpted a lifelike bust of the Younger Lady's face. The striking result was then analyzed against well-known images of Queen Nefertiti.

"This remarkable face seems to be consistent with ancient representations of Nefertiti," said Dodson. "It's extraordinary. When taken alongside the latest reading of the genetic data, this provides us with truly exciting evidence that the mummy of the Younger Lady is none other than Queen Nefertiti herself."

"Nefertiti is remembered as one of the most beautiful women in history, but her accomplishments are anything but skin deep," said Gates. "She was a powerful pharaoh and ruled during one of the most prosperous times in the ancient world. But like many of history's most important female figures, her legacy has been obscured."

Gates added, "This is a unique and exciting moment that allows us to look into the past and help restore the dignity of an incredibly significant woman. The bone structure and the features are remarkably consistent with ancient depictions. I believe this is the true face of Nefertiti."

The badly damaged mummy of the Younger Lady was uncovered in a tomb in Egypt's Valley of the Kings in 1898, and shown through DNA evidence in 2010, to be King Tut's biological mother. Tut's father was the pharaoh Akhenaten, who was married to Nefertiti. It has therefore been theorized that this mummy could be the remains of the legendary queen, whose body has never been positively identified.

"This project is very special and very complex," said artist Elisabeth Daynès. "I worked closely with forensic paleopathologists and anthropologists to determine accurate muscle, skin and soft tissue depth. Everything was meticulously calculated by hand.

"In all, it took more than 500 hours to create the bust. Even the jewelry on the bust was handcrafted by designers who work for Dior," adds Daynès. "When you overlay the profile of the reconstruction with the famous Berlin Bust of Nefertiti, they are an incredibly close match."

"Expedition Unknown," one of Travel Channel's most popular series, follows host Josh Gates around the world as he searches for answers to some of the world's greatest legends and stories. Visit TravelChannel.com for more on "Expedition Unknown." Follow @TravelChannel and #ExpeditionUnknown for exclusive content and updates. Follow host Josh Gates on Twitter: @joshuagates and on Instagram:@gatesygram.

For photos, video and interview requests, please contact krivezzi@travelchannel.com.

*Photo use to be credited as follows: Sculpture by Elisabeth Daynès in partnership with Travel Channel's "Expedition Unknown" and Josh Gates. Photo courtesy of Travel Channel.

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The real and accurate facial reconstruction of Egyptian Queen Nefertiti.

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quote:
Originally posted by mena7:
https://www.today.com/video/get-an-exclusive-first-look-at-the-face-of-king-tut-s-mother-queen-nefertiti-1153878083619

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/could-this-be-the-face-of-nefertiti-300593330.html

Mena: Afrocentric historians like Cheikh Anta Diop and others, egyptSearch Forum posters has proven scientifically and without reasonable doubt that the Ancient Egyptian civilization was a Black African civilization. Despite those facts Western scholars, historians, teachers and artists are representing the Ancient Black Egyptians as modern White Europeans and Mulato Arabs.

If by black civilization you mean no one was there but "true" black Africans and no one with mixture, that hasn't been proven. Proving Egyptian culture had African roots doesn't mean many people living there weren't "Mulatto Arab." You say "Mulatto Arabs" weren't in Egypt, but Nefertiti lived AFTER mass Near Eastern migrations were plentiful enough to divide the country into two kingdoms.


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History in the modern world is not about telling the truth but it is about racial propaganda. Black people are the original people of the World, the legitimate owner of planet earth and the builders and rulers of most of world civilizations until 500 years ago when the White Europeans colonized the world.

And this sounds like racial propaganda too, ironically.


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By falsely presenting the Ancient Egyptians as a White civilization the White scholars are deceiving the world to make them believe that the Western World have a legitimate right to dominate and exploit the world.

So in essence, this is why you fear considering Near Easterners in Egypt. When you discuss history like this, you leave little room to consider that the perspective you have on Egypt isn't true.
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quote:
Originally posted by Oshun:
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Originally posted by mena7:
https://www.today.com/video/get-an-exclusive-first-look-at-the-face-of-king-tut-s-mother-queen-nefertiti-1153878083619

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/could-this-be-the-face-of-nefertiti-300593330.html

Mena: Afrocentric historians like Cheikh Anta Diop and others, egyptSearch Forum posters has proven scientifically and without reasonable doubt that the Ancient Egyptian civilization was a Black African civilization. Despite those facts Western scholars, historians, teachers and artists are representing the Ancient Black Egyptians as modern White Europeans and Mulato Arabs.

If by black civilization you mean no one was there but "true" black Africans and no one with mixture, that hasn't been proven. Proving Egyptian culture had African roots doesn't mean many people living there weren't "Mulatto Arab." You say "Mulatto Arabs" weren't in Egypt, but Nefertiti lived AFTER mass Near Eastern migrations were plentiful enough to divide the country into two kingdoms.


Out of the many Egyptian depictions of nefertiti which one of them remotely suggests that she's an "Arab Mulatto?"
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Nefertiti is not the point. Mena is talking about how Nefertiti's black because the Egypt Nefertiti lived in was a black civilization with no great numbers of "mulatto arabs." But she was born in an era where the country been reunified two centuries after a period of mass "mulatto Arab" immigration and political control. If she were black, it wasn't because there was a great lack of "mulatto Arabs."
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^^ so this is a "white female" ?

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The model seems fairly accurate. Nefertiti was the mother of Tut and it has already been proven he was ruddy like a European.
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quote:
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The model seems fairly accurate. Nefertiti was the mother of Tut and it has already been proven he was ruddy like a European.

Which orifice are you pulling that lie out of?
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I have no time for ignorance. Educate yourself:

"Half of European men share King Tut's DNA"

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-tutankhamun-dna/half-of-european-men-share-king-tuts-dna-idUSTRE7704PB20110801


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Originally posted by Frankly Kemet:
The model seems fairly accurate. Nefertiti was the mother of Tut and it has already been proven he was ruddy like a European.

Which orifice are you pulling that lie out of?

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quote:
Originally posted by Frankly Kemet:
I have no time for ignorance. Educate yourself:

"Half of European men share King Tut's DNA"

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-tutankhamun-dna/half-of-european-men-share-king-tuts-dna-idUSTRE7704PB20110801

For someone telling me to educate myself, you sure need to educate yourself big time:

King Tut Related to Half of European Men? Maybe Not

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A personal genomics company in Switzerland says they've reconstructed a DNA profile of King Tutankhamen by watching the Discovery Channel, claiming the results suggest more than half of Western European men are related to the boy king. But researchers who worked to decode Tut's genome in the first place say the claim is "unscientific."

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quote:
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The model seems fairly accurate. Nefertiti was the mother of Tut and it has already been proven he was ruddy like a European.

Not even Near Eastern...but European? When normal people see olive complexioned Europeans, how often do people say "oh they're olive like a Khoisan" or darker Asians to claim southern Europeans to be from somewhere else? These dark shades of Tut are not common to Europe, nor does he live in Europe. But Europe comes to mind first? He's not just a "little ruddy" he's dark. He may not be pitch black, but he's a shade of dark that many more blacks living in European countries right now are compared to whites.
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I don't get your line of question. Tut shares DNA with European men so logically the comparison should be made there. Plus, North Africa is unique as it has more historical and cultural affinity with the Mediterranean and the Middle East as oppose sub-Sahara.

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The model seems fairly accurate. Nefertiti was the mother of Tut and it has already been proven he was ruddy like a European.

Not even Near Eastern...but European? When normal people see olive complexioned Europeans, how often do people say "oh they're olive like a Khoisan" or darker Asians to claim southern Europeans to be from somewhere else? These dark shades of Tut are not common to Europe, nor does he live in Europe. But Europe comes to mind first? He's not just a "little ruddy" he's dark. He may not be pitch black, but he's a shade of dark that many more blacks living in European countries right now are compared to whites.

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mena, many black people in America would interpret this to be a black woman

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when they apply the one-drop rule, which is scientifically ridiculous. Otherwise, phenotypically she clusters with Eurasians.


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mena, many black people in America would interpret this to be a black woman


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quote:
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I don't get your line of question. Tut shares DNA with European men so logically the comparison should be made there. Plus, North Africa is unique as it has more historical and cultural affinity with the Mediterranean and the Middle East as oppose sub-Sahara.

First, that "DNA" was found by means not reputable. The DNA tribes stuff that suggests he's genetically more closely related to Africans was far more reputable. Second, why are African Americans (or blacks anywhere) that have had genetic y-dna that is "Eurasian" still "black" but not Tut? Consider that Tut (like Nefertiti) was born after a mass migration of immigrants from the Near East. Even if he would be black in Europe today, genetically he can have a non African haplogroup.


North Africa has always had an interesting history and cultures there have shifted historically in what they culturally and physically resemble. At the pre dynastic and early dynastic periods, the southern Egyptians that made Egypt were strongly linked to Sudan, not the Levant.

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when they apply the one-drop rule, which is scientifically ridiculous. Otherwise, phenotypically she clusters with Eurasians.

Race is scientifically ridiculous and is only valid as a social construct. You'd be very dishonest if you were to suggest that people that are moderately to heavily mixed with "Eurasian" DNA aren't frequently treated as blacks in European countries if their features look certain ways.
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mena, many black people in America would interpret this to be a black woman

If her skin were a bit darker she could be interpreted as a black woman. Saying that, Nefertiti wasn't really depicted to be that light skinned.
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Nefertiti wasn't really depicted to be that light skinned. [/QB]

what depiction are you referring to?
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White she wasn't, but, she wasn't pure Africa as well.

She was descendant of Mitanni people, which became mixed race after an invasion of Eastern Asia red hairy people. They weren't intelligent, they didn't even had writing system, but, for sure they were extreme aggressive and conquerors. In fact, they are taking the entire world. Even in Africa, they owned 80% of lands in Kenya, and South Africa....

Egypt was the greatest kingdom in the planet, until Egyptian kings started bring into their Harem red hairy caucasian females. 300 years later, Egypt started falling down, to never recovered again....

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her descending from the Mitanni is still rather speculative...And Asiatics were there from the start especially the Delta.
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quote:
Originally posted by Oshun:
Nefertiti wasn't really depicted to be that light skinned.

what depiction are you referring to?
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Oshun,

I have the rights to disagree with you, and you have the rights to think it's conjectural.

But, the fact is, that you are insisting in the presence of Asiatic people in Egypt since the start? Can you named any Asiatic cultural influence on Ancient Egypt since the start?
Which start are you referring to? Are you affirming that was Asiatics the founders of ancient Egyptian civilization??? Or you are bluffing on purposing to annoy and corrupt ancient Egyptian civilization history?

Starting with, there were no Asians faces or Asian culture during predynastic Egypt, nor until 11th dynasty, which I can starting seen an image of an strange caucasian female called Neferu II. She is the first female which appear to me to be outsider. By the time she emerged in Egypt her husband - Mentuhotep II, appear to be on a military campaign in North Africa??? or instead it was in Anatolia? Neferu II was so important, that her only sculpture was made by wood, without garment or headdress, which mean she was a common Harem concubine, contrary of what title the British archeologists give to her in 1800s's

Now, Mentuhotep's Queen Kawit indeed was an Egyptian native without doubt...

You make me laughing about your asian influences mentality. In fact, the gates of Hattusa is not more or less then a bunch of unorganized blocks of stone on top of another, showing their architecture intellectual capacity [Big Grin] .

Therefore, your asian influence was otherwise, which means that ancient Africans did their best to built a city among almost humans Neanderthals mixed with an unidentified red hairy hominid which migrated to Anatolia from East and Central Asia. That's why there are red hairy mummies in ancient Egypt.

Another important fact, you can not dismiss are the Amarna letters to the Hittites which their referred to themselves as brothers and sisters. In fact, when King Tutu died, his mistress sent a letter to Hittites asking their king to sent her a husband...But, the Hittites never received the letter, because Egyptians killed the messenger.

Therefore, it is possible, the Asian connection started with a "concubine Neferu II" and not since the starting as you want us to believe.

Another detail I must add, is what I heard during a party at an European friend mine - Play Writer in his yacht in Cote d'Azur. In one of many groups of European intellectuals attending his party, there was a Scottish guy, saying that many ancient Egyptian Tombs, were reused by Ptolemaic dynasties members. He went on to say, that even before the Ptolemaic, Assyrians and Persians also buried their members at Egyptian ancient Tombs. It was up to British archeologists to calling the shots, and named who they want in accordance to their own understanding of Egyptian ancient history...

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Continuous...

A loud laughing occurred when one of the guys mentioned Queen Tetisheri headdress, which in their, opinion, she was from the Ptolemaic or Roman dynasties. By the way, there were few guys in that group, from Casablanca, Marseille, Scotland, England, Spain and Paris. All of them agreed upon Tetisheri was buried with wrong identity, on the same site, that many egyptians? were reburied.

In fact, one of them mentioned the similarity of her headdress to the headdress of Romans sculptures made in Liverpool- England in her sculpture in the British Museum. Which means that Queen Tetisheri was not an ancient Egyptian matriarch from 18 dynasty as the British wanted us to believe. She was from the time Romans invaded Egypt, buried on Egyptian Royal grounds of Waset, corruptly later named by the Ptolemaic as Thebes.

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Race is scientifically ridiculous and is only valid as a social construct. You'd be very dishonest if you were to suggest that people that are moderately to heavily mixed with "Eurasian" DNA aren't frequently treated as blacks in European countries if their features look certain ways.
It is claimed that the so-called "famous" Berlin sculpture of Nefertiti is fake. That could well be true because the Egyptian unfinished sculpture of Nefertiti are very different from that Berlin piece. The following presents the mother of Akhenaten, the husband of Nefertiti and more telling the obviously African phenotypes of the daughters.

When it comes to Ancient Egypt the Eurocentric mindset is still alive. It still needs opposing.

Nefertiti's Daughters:
https://www.google.com/search?q=amarna+princesses+images&client=firefox-b-1&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjW9I37oZfZAhVPxGMKHb7fBpYQ7AkISA&biw=1067&bih=489

Nefertiti Unfinished
https://www.google.com/search?q=amarna+princesses+images&client=firefox-b-1&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjW9I37oZfZAhVPxGMKHb7fBpYQ7AkISA&biw=1067&bih=489#imgrc=pRhxZ cHXGK8MBM:

Akhenaten's mother--Queen Tiye
https://www.google.com/search?q=queen++tiye++images&client=firefox-b-1&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwig3ZfropfZAhVDzWMKHQJCCYMQ7AkISA&biw=1067&bih=489

Generic Egyptians at Work
https://www.google.com/search?q=Ancient++Egyptians++at++work++images&client=firefox-b-1&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiYnIKoo5fZAhUW42MKHR3VB5gQ7AkIQA&biw=1067&bih=489

Note the fake Eurocentric attempts at portraying the AEs. They are usually portrayed as a full shade lighter than how the AEs portrayed themselves


In their portrayal of themselves in their Panel of Peoples, the AEs distinguished themselves from West Asians. In Africa, the generic African brown/dark brown in color. But there are populations of very dark Africans as is the case in South Sudan with the Dinka, Nuer, Shilluk, etc. Same for the Senegambia region.


In their panel of peoples, the AEs portrayed both colors of Africans. Be very suspicious when European anthropologists unearth some Ancient Egyptian and claim that he/she was so and so. The most authentic representations of the AEs would be their own representation of themselves

Ancient Egyptian Panel of Peoples
https://www.google.com/search?q=ancient++egyptian+panel+of++races+images&client=firefox-b-1&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj-kMKbppfZAhUF02MKHSZVBRoQ7AkIQA&biw=1067&bih =489#imgdii=kIwYsSmla2bL_M:&imgrc=YKDYbBMwktE4LM:


Contemporary Africans
Miss Senegal competition
https://www.google.com/search?q=miss++senegal+images&client=firefox-b-1&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj1xoT2ppfZAhUQ9GMKHX-UBxAQ7AkITg&biw=1067&bih=489

Miss Rwanda Competition
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Miss Guinea Competition
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quote:
Originally posted by Linda Fahr:
Oshun,

I have the rights to disagree with you, and you have the rights to think it's conjectural.

But, the fact is, that you are insisting in the presence of Asiatic people in Egypt since the start? Can you named any Asiatic cultural influence on Ancient Egypt since the start?
Which start are you referring to? Are you affirming that was Asiatics the founders of ancient Egyptian civilization??? Or you are bluffing on purposing to annoy and corrupt ancient Egyptian civilization history?

Like I said in other threads, archeological elements like subterranean homes would suggest influences that transcend mere trade, but settlement. Thus people in lower Egypt would've been a combination of Meghan Markles, Coptic Egyptians, Beyonces, with some Upper Egyptian looking peoples as well (though not as proportionally dominant as the south). Though because mixed lower Egyptians were not where the dynastic culture came from (rather upper Egypt or Nubia), I wouldn't hold them especially responsible for dynastic Egypt.
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Here's a problem and I have corrected it in the second version unless someone can prove my version wrong


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original reconstruction, Nefertiti


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lioness variation, Nefertiti reconstruction, eye color black


On the flip side the above construction has fuller lips than the bust

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the eye on the bust however is black

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Standing Figure of Nefertiti, limestone 1350 BC. It is in the Egyptian Museum of Berlin.

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The queen’s depiction is typical of the early Amarna Period. She is wearing sandals and a transparent robe. The figure was found in multiple pieces in 1920 during an excavation by the German Oriental Society in the remains of the studio of Thutmose.


Again, compared to the reconstruction this standing figure and the bust shows less full lips, less prognothsis and a thinner in the middle of the nose than in the reconstruction.

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quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
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mena, many black people in America would interpret this to be a black woman

BS!

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Nefertiti is probably a mixed Indian. Lol.

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:

mena, many black people in America would interpret this to be a black woman

BS! [/QB]
you're not American, so you wouldn't know


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Nerfitit's Unfinished Busts

Nerfertiti's unfinished busts are quire distinct from the fake Berlin Bust.

https://www.google.com/search?q=nefertiti++unfinished++artists++busts&client=firefox-b-1&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi04Z3i9ZnZAhVW4WMKHbdWA2UQ7AkISA&biw=1067&bih=48 9

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More specifically.

https://www.google.com/search?q=nefertiti+unfinished+artists+busts&client=firefox-b-1&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiEnvmp95nZAhVV0GMKHYo9DdQQ7AkISA&biw=1067&bih=489#i mgrc=WuJwqzXlHYMDLM:

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More specifically again.
https://www.google.com/search?q=nefertiti++unfinished++artists++busts&client=firefox-b-1&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi04Z3i9ZnZAhVW4WMKHbdWA2UQ7AkISA&biw=1067&bih=48 9#imgrc=gWrXwP_WmQcxeM:

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The Berlin bust is not only fake but the fakers just had to paint the thing white with a Euro paint cover.
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quote:
Originally posted by lamin:
The Berlin bust is not only fake but the fakers just had to paint the thing white with a Euro paint cover.

you mentioned Nerfitit's Unfinished Busts. So I posted one in comparison to the finished one

quote:
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The Berlin bust is not only fake but the fakers just had to paint the thing white with a Euro paint cover.

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^^ this is a Euro paint over also?

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The Today show White Nefertiti exposition created controversy in the internet. I am posting some Youtube reaction

Funny reaction to Whitewashing Queen Nefertiti
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9bi4G6YguM

Nefertiti Ancient Egypt true story
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CPoVg1dT_c

Culture Vulture Strike against Egypt
https://youtu.be/m7h1QpCQz44

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White people will never give up to stealing African and African descendant history.

It does not happen only American, and Europe.
In South America is the same. Few years ago, in Brazil, the government united with an independent agency made an advertising for TV showing the Founder of Literary Academy of Brazil, a writer called Machado de Assis, which was an African descendant - Mulatto, depicting him as white guy.

Brazilians which majority African descendants, immediately protested against it, and the official commercial was removed after few days showing on government and private TV stations.

Sincerely, I can't understand whey the so proud white people insist in steal African and African descendants history and achievements. Shame on them.

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quote:
you mentioned Nerfitit's Unfinished Busts. So I posted one in comparison to the finished one
An silly and naive attempt at trickery. You showed a PROFILE; I showed a FULL FRONTAL that gave full evidence of Nefertiti's African face and you answered with a PROFILE.

Racialists[not to be confused with racists] always point to traits such Nefertiti's nose and lips as generic African traits, if the individual is of African origin. Such traits are not fully exposed in profile.

But the point being made is the usual nonsense portraying the AEs as not generically "African" in the racial sense of that term.


All this reminds me of a CD of Kora music but with a Mid-East man on the cover[he was not with a Kora] instead of a genuine African kora player. The implicit assumption there was that in the Eurocentric mind, "kora music is sophisticated music, therefore it could not be associated with Africa".

The same conscious/unconscious mindset is at work here. The AEs produced the earliest and most long-lasting civilization, therefore, that could not be the work of blacks/Africans.

There is nothing special about Nefertiti--except that she was the wife of Akhenaten, the founder of monotheism. Queen Tiye, being the mother of Akhenaten is of higher pedigree. Son what the Eurocentric fakers did was to get a bust of Nefertiti, do some plastic surgery on it and paint it to look like a Persian or Turk. Simple.

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quote:
this is a Euro paint over also?
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LOL. No. The lady is of African color. The same as the following.

https://www.google.com/search?q=miss+guinea+images&client=firefox-b-1&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiZzcfvrJzZAhUK8WMKHZEwDMQQ7AkIRg&biw=1067&bih=489#imgrc=8PILE10eeyr c1M:

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Again, some eye drops for your lying eyes.

https://www.google.com/search?q=nefertiti++unfinished++artists++busts&client=firefox-b-1&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi04Z3i9ZnZAhVW4WMKHbdWA2UQ7AkISA&biw=1067&bih=48 9#imgrc=8sDqZvUYh7VrCM:

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so the color on the left face is African but the one on the right is European?


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look at this color >>


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The point you miss is that the color of the fake Nefertiti bust is not Nefertiti's real color--given the color of her daughters--and the color of AEs in general.
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1&biw=1067&bih=489&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=8pl_WpeqLYbAjwPgl5_wDA&q=Ancient++Egyptian+panel+of++races&oq=Ancient++Egyptian+panel+of++races&g s_l=psy-ab.3...20627.23136.0.24146.12.12.0.0.0.0.108.1100.9j3.12.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..0.0.0....0.2ZySnHuK7Cw#imgrc=X_1oJerIermmqM:

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quote:
Originally posted by lamin:
The point you miss is that the color of the fake Nefertiti bust is not Nefertiti's real color--given the color of her daughters--and the color of AEs in general.
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1&biw=1067&bih=489&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=8pl_WpeqLYbAjwPgl5_wDA&q=Ancient++Egyptian+panel+of++races&oq=Ancient++Egyptian+panel+of++races&g s_l=psy-ab.3...20627.23136.0.24146.12.12.0.0.0.0.108.1100.9j3.12.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..0.0.0....0.2ZySnHuK7Cw#imgrc=X_1oJerIermmqM:

So Nefertiti's color was more like this?


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Something I find tricky with both of these reconstructions is that they often show these things in dark lighting giving us the momentary impression that they are darker. Then in other photos under well lit conditions they look lighter in the realm of Europeans, that actual color of the reconstruction
--and not with the high yellow tone you sometimes see in North Africa.

Another problem, I said it earlier is that the eyes are depicted brown not black. I think black would be a better assumption

Also the fleshy parts of these people's face, nose and lips when they were alive is hard to predict from these mummies

And for Tutankhamen in particular all the Egyptian art has him medium brown not in the above color in the reconstruction


here 's the Today Show VIDEO everybody is talking about:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZydU7Pz7RA


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look at how light it's coming off on TV__________________^^^

Do I think the Berlin bust should be the sole determinant of the skin tone? No

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@Lioness.

You keep asking deliberately very naive questions--as your last question to yours truly.

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