quote:Originally posted by ?????: As long as there are enough men succussfull in what they earn and how, there will be imitators. ....
I'm still a bit skeptical about the scale of it though. I wonder if the author misinterpreted a metaphor for literal meaning. It's not uncommon in Egyptian slang to say three quarters of something is so and so. It doesn't at all mean that it is actually 3 out of 4, it's just an expression to indicate a large number.
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May be you're right RN. There could be a bit of exaggeration here, yet when 3/4 can't be 1/4. Even 1/4 is scary!
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quote:Originally posted by Ngeg: May be you're right RN. There could be a bit of exaggeration here, yet when 3/4 can't be 1/4. Even 1/4 is scary!
I agree, although 10% is probably within normal bounds. However, the sugardady thing I find very hard to believe, especially in Sa'id (upper Egypt). I'm probably in denial here! Quite depressing, not to mention disgusting!
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The author was talking about Luxor. Never have been there, but it seems to be the worsest place regarding this subject. My personal theory is that it is the oldest place for mass-tourism in Egypt, and untill the gouvernment noticed what was going on there (or has been pressured by foreign embassies)it was too late. Same counts for Hurghada. Seems the relatively 'new' tourist area's are not like this. They select the staff working there, and they keep an eye on it. So, the oldest area's are too rotten to make it change anyway. And indeed, I agree, the gay-scene to me also sounds unbelievable. But, isn't the fact only that there ís a gay-scene in such a small place, specially in upper-Egypt, unbelievable?
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quote:Originally posted by ?????: And indeed, I agree, the gay-scene to me also sounds unbelievable. But, isn't the fact only that there ís a gay-scene in such a small place, specially in upper-Egypt, unbelievable?
Absolutely! I've been to Luxor once many years ago, in the last century actually (even millinium! I'm showing my age now, lol) and it didn't have a hint of that. We went with uni, back then most of the tourists were in guided groups, no individuals as far as I can remember. In Aswan, we were in the night club and some Egyptian guy (not with us) tried to get friendly with a tourist and the secret police were about to arrest him, only the pleas of the young woman saved him. She didn't know him but took pity on him. So things were under control, or so it seemed at least. As for Sharm, I went there camping with my friends not too long after it's been liberated. There was only one hotel there, I think called Marina Sharm which seemed sort of disposable , for the lack of a better term. In Noweba (spelling?) we camped right on the beach, a few feet from the water! At the time the Taba issue was not yet resolved. As for Hurghada, first time I went there, there was only a lovely place called Magawish out of town and maybe the Sheraton (can't remember). The next time I went only a few years later there was another place called Arabeya. From what I read around here, it seems things have changed completely, and unfortunately not in the right direction (in my view).
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quote:Originally posted by ?????: The author was talking about Luxor. Never have been there, but it seems to be the worsest place regarding this subject. My personal theory is that it is the oldest place for mass-tourism in Egypt, and untill the gouvernment noticed what was going on there (or has been pressured by foreign embassies)it was too late. Same counts for Hurghada. Seems the relatively 'new' tourist area's are not like this. They select the staff working there, and they keep an eye on it. So, the oldest area's are too rotten to make it change anyway. And indeed, I agree, the gay-scene to me also sounds unbelievable. But, isn't the fact only that there ís a gay-scene in such a small place, specially in upper-Egypt, unbelievable?
You have never been to Luxor? Ive been there only once for the moment,and that was 3 years ago,but i was too busy visiting their historical treasures to remember if i saw any gay tourism or locals into it around,as the book mentions. The author even mentions that Luxor has been touted as Egypt´s Sin City many long years ago. I cannot vow to this,really.
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Well, I'm not there as a tourist, but to visit my friend! At least, most of the time. I have been to the Red Sea for a couple of times for sun, sand and sea! Luxor is for sin, sand and sun! Posts: 7202 | From: EU | Registered: Nov 2006
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quote:Originally posted by ?????: Well, I'm not there as a tourist, but to visit my friend! At least, most of the time. I have been to the Red Sea for a couple of times for sun, sand and sea! Luxor is for sin, sand and sun!
Luxor is extremely important to anyone truly interested in Egypt's pharaonic past,and it has often been called the worlds greatest open air museum.Citing here: "The number and preservation of the monuments in the Luxor area are unparalleled anywhere else in the world that know of." Posts: 3833 | From: here,there,everywhere | Registered: Nov 2007
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quote:Originally posted by ?????: Well, I'm not there as a tourist, but to visit my friend!
Luxor is extremely important to anyone truly interested in Egypt's pharaonic past,and it has often been called the worlds greatest open air museum.
Very true, I have been to Luxor a couple of months ago, and the amount of sightseeing I did there didn't give me much time or energy left to really notice the whole 3/4 thing. It's such a amazing, hostorically rich place. And I've never felt that friendliness and warmth in any other place I've been to.
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FYI I purchased "Inside Egypt" from the AUC Bookstore at the recent International Book Fair....
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I probabbly missed it somewhere in the long thread! To be honest I bought so many books that day I haven't got round to reading it yet, but will let you have my opinion when I do
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