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How did her x husband benefit from her! How did he use her? Stop being against Egyptian men always!
Instead of blaming the Egyptian husband all the way, why don't you take a deep look on this naive American woman!
You blame the Egyptian man for leaving her! So weird he wasn't going to be happy with her so he decided to leave and remember they were only married for less than a year and they spent less than 4 months together! He didn't use her and he didn't want anything from her and he refused the so called American dream!
Enjoy your so called "American dream", I will stay in Egypt! that was his msg to her.
Well done, you did the right thing.
I think that some of western women are using Egyptian men and not the opposite; In America, they might be miserable or desperate and single or some of them might be mentally sick and they are not that pretty and with package (kids) so they cant attract American men, they come to Egypt and they know that Egyptian men love women and egyptians won't mind having relationship with them so they come here seduce them by sex or money or moving to the states.
This forum must respect the Egyptian men and their will and their decisions. This forum wasn't made to defend western women and oppose Egyptian men!
MH's x husband wasn't wrong and she knew all his past before getting married he hide nothing from her and still she loved him and he was straight forward with her.
You were so stupid and naive MH, don't try to blame it on your husband! its about you not him!
Try to learn anything form your mistakes otherwise you will always come here and cry but next time no one will even bother and no one will care about your tears or to comment on any of your future stories 'cause frankly speaking your stories are boring and i think you are too!
You are right on many things you say YEG. However,as I have said quite a few times, that it is not just Egyptian Men who do this so you shouldn't be too offended at the fact that he was egyptian. This forum is mostly woman and is having to do with relationships with egyptian men. If you went to a woman's relationship talk in say an American forum group or a forum group about relations with French men, you would find similar posts regarding poorly behaved American and French men, players and low quality men who shafted a woman. So while you think it may appear to be woman knocking egyptian men, they are a handful here-some qenuinely fooled into believing that they found the man of their dreams or are just foolish sick desperate woman who chose to ignore the writing on the wall. Many women on here have wonderful happy relationships with egyptian men, have kids with them, some live in egypt, some bring their husbands back to their countries so generally judging all western woman as fat,stupid,old desperate really is just as wrong.
There are bad men/woman in every country and culture, take for instance the egyptian man that was scammed by an American woman. He did the same thing, came on here very bitter and full of hurt so much that he posted pornographic pics of her and bashed every American woman as being a loser like this woman was. He did not want to hear anything different and continuously posted about how American woman are all bad. Yes I felt sorry for him to a point that he was scrrewed over but he just couldn't see that he got a bad apple out of a bunch, he just kept generalizing the whole bunch as bad.
Egyptian men do not have it easy, many of us involved with one understand . The culture, poverty, and exposure to a lifestyle they dont understand make it easier for some bad apples to take advantage. However, a handful does not a country make just has a handful of dysfunctional stupid women like Mystic represent the whole population of American women thankfully.
As far as us having children from other relationships, well that shouldn't be an indication of our morality,Neither should the way we dress either. We just have more opportunities these days, are more able to not have to stay in a bad marriage as many of us can support ourselves. Most American men and woman understand this so it is culturally acceptable to form new relationships that end up in extended families. Understanding and accepting our culture is essential when forming a relationship with an American woman just as an American woman needs to understand and accept the culture values of the Egyptian man they are getting involved with. Unfortunately, sometimes both parties forget this and this is were the problems come in to play..
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I don't understand this well, I'm afraid. Who are these two guys, defending an Egyptian man they don't even know? Who are these two guys, blaming an American woman that they don't even know, except for one 4 minute conversation on the internet???
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Don't think YEG and Pacha guy are the same people. YEG's knowledge of the English language is ok. Posts: 2932 | From: Just now and then | Registered: Nov 2006
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quote:Originally posted by Shahrazat: Are YEG and Pacha Senafir (or whatever) same people? The way of their talking nearly the same
But it is MH's magic.. All topics she started reachs minimum 100 posts
I dont know what the heck are you talking about! But seems that whenever someone defends Egyptians in this forum, he gets all the blame and everyone starts opposing him!
This forum wasn't made to be against Egyptian men or to be a platform for crazy women to express their anger and hatred towards Egyptian men!
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quote:Originally posted by With a name like Smuckers: He is a user, yes,
This is the bit I dont understand, HOW did he use her? Maybe he was going to go to the states but then found things out about her that he didn't like or thought he couldn't live with?
Perhaps thats why he ended it? Like you said, he wasn't exactly hiding his past, or his present by the sounds of things. Any married man with facebook and female 'friends' while they are supposed to be a muslim as well is pretty much laying it all on the table IMO
My opinion? He used her for a few things, money, to pass the time, sex, companionship, etc. He married her under the pretense of following her to the states to begin a life, be a stepfather to her children (I don't agree her involving her kids so soon but that's another topic), he did a lot of emotional and sexual using. Did she allow him? You bet she did. The biggest one to blame is MH, and I hope she sees that now. You have to start to begin to stand up and demand your worth...and I can't help but feel that she doesn't really value herself all that much. What is he paying her for the divorce? Not that the money matters, but it's definitely a sign. What is he losing? She lost so much, what about him? The one who usually loses the most is USUALLY the one who gets used.
I do agree with what you say though, about the signs of how he was prior. Everyone saw it, even she did...but she chose to ignore it. In that she is to blame but she keeps waiting for the world to treat her nice simply because she's a nice person. HUH? No, it doesn't work like that, you demand what you get or you get NOTHING.
Expecting the world to treat you fairly because you are a good person is like expecting the bull to not attack you because you are a vegetarian. (I heard that somewhere...)
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I m just asking a question without any unkind words, and you replying a lady with a huge anger. It s always a possiblity to have same person with different ID's here.
Then you are expecting for respect for Egyptian men. Posts: 2591 | From: **Ex Oriente Lux** | Registered: Jan 2007
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quote:Originally posted by YoungEgyptianGuy: How did her x husband benefit from her! How did he use her? Stop being against Egyptian men always!
Instead of blaming the Egyptian husband all the way, why don't you take a deep look on this naive American woman!
You blame the Egyptian man for leaving her! So weird he wasn't going to be happy with her so he decided to leave and remember they were only married for less than a year and they spent less than 4 months together! He didn't use her and he didn't want anything from her and he refused the so called American dream!
Enjoy your so called "American dream", I will stay in Egypt! that was his msg to her.
Well done, you did the right thing.
I think that some of western women are using Egyptian men and not the opposite; In America, they might be miserable or desperate and single or some of them might be mentally sick and they are not that pretty and with package (kids) so they cant attract American men, they come to Egypt and they know that Egyptian men love women and egyptians won't mind having relationship with them so they come here seduce them by sex or money or moving to the states.
This forum must respect the Egyptian men and their will and their decisions. This forum wasn't made to defend western women and oppose Egyptian men!
MH's x husband wasn't wrong and she knew all his past before getting married he hide nothing from her and still she loved him and he was straight forward with her.
You were so stupid and naive MH, don't try to blame it on your husband! its about you not him!
Try to learn anything form your mistakes otherwise you will always come here and cry but next time no one will even bother and no one will care about your tears or to comment on any of your future stories 'cause frankly speaking your stories are boring and i think you are too!
Before YOU jump to conclusions, YOU need to read more of the old threads. Members of this forum have a very solid opinion of her husband NOT because they are stereotyping all egyptian men, but because he was a member of this forum. It was VERY obvious what a sleazy and low-class character he was because he left plenty of posts chasing any and all females he could online.
That said, I really take offense at the way you are demanding egyptian men be respected online when you are not acting very decently yourself. Hey everybody let's meet up for coffee? Sending private messages to women who are divorcing?
Please, you are so transparent. You want more respect for egyptian men who come online? Earn it and stop trying to "make friends" with online women yourself.
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ExptinCAI you are right on the money thank you for saying that maybe he will understand now
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quote:Originally posted by YoungEgyptianGuy: How did her x husband benefit from her! How did he use her? Stop being against Egyptian men always!
Instead of blaming the Egyptian husband all the way, why don't you take a deep look on this naive American woman!
You blame the Egyptian man for leaving her! So weird he wasn't going to be happy with her so he decided to leave and remember they were only married for less than a year and they spent less than 4 months together! He didn't use her and he didn't want anything from her and he refused the so called American dream!
Enjoy your so called "American dream", I will stay in Egypt! that was his msg to her.
Well done, you did the right thing.
I think that some of western women are using Egyptian men and not the opposite; In America, they might be miserable or desperate and single or some of them might be mentally sick and they are not that pretty and with package (kids) so they cant attract American men, they come to Egypt and they know that Egyptian men love women and egyptians won't mind having relationship with them so they come here seduce them by sex or money or moving to the states.
This forum must respect the Egyptian men and their will and their decisions. This forum wasn't made to defend western women and oppose Egyptian men!
MH's x husband wasn't wrong and she knew all his past before getting married he hide nothing from her and still she loved him and he was straight forward with her.
You were so stupid and naive MH, don't try to blame it on your husband! its about you not him!
Try to learn anything form your mistakes otherwise you will always come here and cry but next time no one will even bother and no one will care about your tears or to comment on any of your future stories 'cause frankly speaking your stories are boring and i think you are too!
Before YOU jump to conclusions, YOU need to read more of the old threads. Members of this forum have a very solid opinion of her husband NOT because they are stereotyping all egyptian men, but because he was a member of this forum. It was VERY obvious what a sleazy and low-class character he was because he left plenty of posts chasing any and all females he could online.
That said, I really take offense at the way you are demanding egyptian men be respected online when you are not acting very decently yourself. Hey everybody let's meet up for coffee? Sending private messages to women who are divorcing?
Please, you are so transparent. You want more respect for egyptian men who come online? Earn it and stop trying to "make friends" with online women yourself.
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Perhaps Momen had a moment of clarity and wondered to himself, "What kind of woman would accept a relationship like this one?" and he got himself out of a relationship that was going to devour him once he left Egypt. Internet "play marriage" is one thing, but at some point he had to look in the mirror and say, "what the hell am I thinking!". He married a stranger off the net, and was going to come play house in the midwest? I think in the end MH should THANK him for saving them both from something more disturbing than an internet marriage.
But for her preggo friend? I decided this morning.. that I don't care.
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quote:Originally posted by With a name like Smuckers:
On a side note, you may want to reexamine your idea that Western men don't want a woman if she has kids from a previous marriage. That is not always necessarily so the way it is here in Egypt. There are many men who take the wives willingly and lovingly and raise another man's child because he either isn't there to do it or refuses to do it. In this, Western men are much more open minded that Egyptian men and to think that women can't 'get a man' because she has a child is ignorant.
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Do i blame him for his decision not to come, yes and no. It's in the way he did things ok, He treated me as he should have so i had no way of knowing the hidden things, no reason to look for them. Anyone that saw us together saw love. Now, i started noticing small things in September, I started pushing for answers and things to be put right cause i just dont give up easy on marriage. What i blame him for is not being honest, He claims he knew for months that he wasnt coming, yet he brought me to egypt to treat me horribly in the last trip, then at the end tell me he loves me and wanted to spend his life with me in the states, went through all the visa paperwork over and over, mind you while i was there i asked him several times if he wanted a divorce and wanted out and even walked out a few times myself only to have him drag me back and tell me that he didnt want out and loves me. We spent hours on the phone going over interview questions the week before he told me he wasnt coming, even then he said he promised we would be together soon forever...,, my issue is why do all of that if he knew he wasnt coming, why not just tell me months before that he wasnt and end it, why wait until he would have been here likely within a month and pretend that he was coming when he wasnt..... that is my issue and its one that i will never ever forgive.. the lies.
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And also no, there was no money given to him other than this last time he had sent me the money to pay for my ticket and i insisted to give it back to him.... kicking myself for that now. The only money i lost wasnt given to him, 4,000 total for visa stuff the lawyer papers sending stuff printing stuff, photos ect. about 3,500.00 for airline tickets total, and another 5,000.oo for the money that i would have made during my time off work. So the money i lost wasnt money given to him. Just money spent because of him.
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MH - "yet he brought me to egypt to treat me horribly in the last trip,"
Why would you accept that?
You noticed small things in September why would you ignore those things
Look my advice to you (for what it's worth) is just leave it. Do not spend one more minute thinking about him. Get yourself straight, enjoy your children and as others have suggested - get some help, so you do not get into a situation like this again. Posts: 895 | Registered: Sep 2007
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I didnt ignore those things, that is part of his problem. I stood up to them and wouldnt let those small things go unanswered or put up with it, i insisted they be changed.
I am moving on, i am enjoying my life.What he did will always hurt and always stay in mind but i refuse to let it destroy me. I never wanted to be the type of person that didnt believe in people to start, but i am finding that is exactly what i do now, i dont believe in people anymore. I used to believe and trust until given a reason not to, now i just expect the worst from them.
Oh Youngegyptianguy... yeah we talked all of 4 min, all you wanted to do was slam the woman in the pictures you keep bringing up, i refused to join you in that and that is why you are saying anything at all. When all you wanted to do was talk badly i ended the conversation with you. YOU are the one that the picture was taken for and you didnt seem to mind it then did you. YOU are the one that beat her and tried to kill your unborn child. YOU are the one that stalked her and created fake profiles about her all over net. What YOU did to her was absolutely horrid so you have no room to talk about her and what kind of person she is. As for the rest of us, we dont know her in person so its not for us to judge her or her actions. I talk to her on messenger alot, she is a nice person. I know her reasons for doing what she did, and i know that most of what was posted of her is a huge lie by YOU because she dumped your butt and you cant stand it. Keep going, I will let her know that you were talking about her to me, next thing you know, the pictures of your *** will be all over net cause if you keep messing with her she will post them.
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quote:Originally posted by mysticheart: Do i blame him for his decision not to come, yes and no. It's in the way he did things ok, He treated me as he should have so i had no way of knowing the hidden things, no reason to look for them. Anyone that saw us together saw love. Now, i started noticing small things in September, I started pushing for answers and things to be put right cause i just dont give up easy on marriage. What i blame him for is not being honest, He claims he knew for months that he wasnt coming, yet he brought me to egypt to treat me horribly in the last trip, then at the end tell me he loves me and wanted to spend his life with me in the states, went through all the visa paperwork over and over, mind you while i was there i asked him several times if he wanted a divorce and wanted out and even walked out a few times myself only to have him drag me back and tell me that he didnt want out and loves me. We spent hours on the phone going over interview questions the week before he told me he wasnt coming, even then he said he promised we would be together soon forever...,, my issue is why do all of that if he knew he wasnt coming, why not just tell me months before that he wasnt and end it, why wait until he would have been here likely within a month and pretend that he was coming when he wasnt..... that is my issue and its one that i will never ever forgive.. the lies.
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if you notice, i state in between that i started to notice small things in september... the first 2 trips and between the trips he treated me very well and things were as they should be. After i left my second trip, then i started noticing certain things that changed. and this last trip was a disaster mostly, until the last 10 days.
Without reading the 3 pages and counting (which is what the poster wants - Attention!)
Why? Why? Why? Why?
Doesn't anyone have any good news, good topics, good anything????
Who actually has the time to read pages and pages of GARBAGEEEEee??? The same Sh*t as another thread. I don't sign in often but when I do it is the same crap. Ok I have vented now - whew!
Ok who is willing to start a book...a good book? Cut and paste and keep us in suspense. Like one chapter a day or every couple of days. Something juicy...unique...twisty...Hmmm I have a good book I am attempting to read AGAIN. That is how good it is. It is about an Egyptian family starting back in King Farouk's time. Anyone interested to know the story?
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<Ok who is willing to start a book...a good book?>
But Snapdragon...you are already in the middle of Mystic`s autobiography.No other member of this board is able to get away with keeping a board audience captive by pulling out threads of more than 10 pages long. Posts: 3833 | From: here,there,everywhere | Registered: Nov 2007
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quote:Originally posted by Cosmogirl: Perhaps Momen had a moment of clarity and wondered to himself, "What kind of woman would accept a relationship like this one?" and he got himself out of a relationship that was going to devour him once he left Egypt. Internet "play marriage" is one thing, but at some point he had to look in the mirror and say, "what the hell am I thinking!". He married a stranger off the net, and was going to come play house in the midwest? I think in the end MH should THANK him for saving them both from something more disturbing than an internet marriage.
But for her preggo friend? I decided this morning.. that I don't care.
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Originally posted by Snapdragon: Doesn't anyone have any good news?
yes i do i do my husband will be here in 3 days, the countdown begins with the hours now Posts: 9443 | From: USA...... | Registered: Jun 2006
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quote:Originally posted by YoungEgyptianGuy: Lets put this boring story and all similiar stories about unstable women crying and accusing everyone and acting like angels to an END.
Good Bye MH and well done Momen lol
You seem to know everything about those two, so, tell me: Why did Momen marry her? Does he fancy unstabile women? What was his motivation in this?
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quote:Originally posted by YoungEgyptianGuy: Lets put this boring story and all similiar stories about unstable women crying and accusing everyone and acting like angels to an END.
Good Bye MH and well done Momen lol
You seem to know everything about those two, so, tell me: Why did Momen marry her? Does he fancy unstabile women? What was his motivation in this?
I dont care about any one of them! Enough is enough. Boring story & boring people!
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quote:Originally posted by YoungEgyptianGuy: Lets put this boring story and all similiar stories about unstable women crying and accusing everyone and acting like angels to an END.
Good Bye MH and well done Momen lol
Enough with your personal whining too,Y-Anal Posts: 3833 | From: here,there,everywhere | Registered: Nov 2007
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quote:Originally posted by Snapdragon: Doesn't anyone have any good news?
I managed to avoid peeing all over the toilet seat this morning.
You lost me at 'toilet'
Hahaha... Mrs, you are a nut! Posts: 1157 | From: Censor - Edit - Delete, but you will never take away my FREEDOM! | Registered: Dec 2007
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... I meant 'nut' in a good way! Thank goodness I never said you were 'nuts'. Posts: 1157 | From: Censor - Edit - Delete, but you will never take away my FREEDOM! | Registered: Dec 2007
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quote:Originally posted by mysticheart: And also no, there was no money given to him other than this last time he had sent me the money to pay for my ticket and i insisted to give it back to him.... kicking myself for that now. The only money i lost wasnt given to him, 4,000 total for visa stuff the lawyer papers sending stuff printing stuff, photos ect. about 3,500.00 for airline tickets total, and another 5,000.oo for the money that i would have made during my time off work. So the money i lost wasnt money given to him. Just money spent because of him.
Mystic, spent $12500 on a guy? I would have expected Brad Pitt for that amount, and plenty of bang for the bucks. Posts: 1157 | From: Censor - Edit - Delete, but you will never take away my FREEDOM! | Registered: Dec 2007
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quote:Originally posted by Snapdragon: Doesn't anyone have any good news?
I managed to avoid peeing all over the toilet seat this morning.
ummm.why?youwasnt able to aim in past?.if you hve a pussy then please pee whenyou are sitting down,it is the proper way for the pussy wid the toilet.mmmand if you got a dick then the only explanation is you sick by prostate inflammation.thenplease reduce your masturbation time and try to stop porning for the sake of your health
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HOLY CRAP!!!! That's a lot of dough for a guido. Money that could have been spent on her children. What a shame.
quote:Originally posted by Lumos:
quote:Originally posted by mysticheart: And also no, there was no money given to him other than this last time he had sent me the money to pay for my ticket and i insisted to give it back to him.... kicking myself for that now. The only money i lost wasnt given to him, 4,000 total for visa stuff the lawyer papers sending stuff printing stuff, photos ect. about 3,500.00 for airline tickets total, and another 5,000.oo for the money that i would have made during my time off work. So the money i lost wasnt money given to him. Just money spent because of him.
Mystic, spent $12500 on a guy? I would have expected Brad Pitt for that amount, and plenty of bang for the bucks.
quote:Originally posted by CheezyPoof: HOLY CRAP!!!! That's a lot of dough for a guido. Money that could have been spent on her children. What a shame.
quote:Originally posted by Lumos:
quote:Originally posted by mysticheart: And also no, there was no money given to him other than this last time he had sent me the money to pay for my ticket and i insisted to give it back to him.... kicking myself for that now. The only money i lost wasnt given to him, 4,000 total for visa stuff the lawyer papers sending stuff printing stuff, photos ect. about 3,500.00 for airline tickets total, and another 5,000.oo for the money that i would have made during my time off work. So the money i lost wasnt money given to him. Just money spent because of him.
Mystic, spent $12500 on a guy? I would have expected Brad Pitt for that amount, and plenty of bang for the bucks.
Holy Crap is right!!! Wow for a waitress who doesn't take her kids anywhere but to a park for a picnic to "conserve" money that is unbelievable. I guess spending money on a "tigalo" makes her a "retart".
You should have just bought the cow...
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Average cost for a Private College: $ 33,301 Average cost for a Public College: $ 16,357 Average cost for an Out of State Public College: $ 26,304
These figures are for ONE year. (according to about.com)
Multiply that by three separate boyfriends overseas, and you have a complete education squandered over the internet. AND the worst part? Colleges are FILLED with good men who are working to improve their lives via education and not seduction.
I know that you are dedicated to the career you have chosen, and that it pays good. But... dude that is a gand of money on a dude you didn't know.
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does it matter what she spent on him?? if she truly believe she loved him,i guess it woulndt matter right? ya 12000 is was too much but she worked for her money and she blew it on what she thought was right for her too!!! the good thing about bein american is u can get another job payin 10 to 20 $ an hr and forget about the 12000 she blew!
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Yeah it matters. A few rolls in the hay shouldn't cost 12 grand.
This woman has fallen in "love" more times in the past two years than I have in my lifetime.
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quote:Originally posted by Rumicrazieluv: Wow for a waitress who doesn't take her kids anywhere but to a park for a picnic to "conserve" money that is unbelievable. I guess spending money on a "tigalo" makes her a "retart".
You should have just bought the cow...
You are so right Rumi, I can hardly afford to buy a joint sometimes let alone a whole cow! They must pay waitresses well in the good ole US of A is all I can say, because I cant afford loads of holidays to Egypt a year Posts: 918 | From: Earth | Registered: Jan 2008
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quote:Originally posted by Cosmogirl: Average cost for a Private College: $ 33,301 Average cost for a Public College: $ 16,357 Average cost for an Out of State Public College: $ 26,304
These figures are for ONE year. (according to about.com)
Multiply that by three separate boyfriends overseas, and you have a complete education squandered over the internet. AND the worst part? Colleges are FILLED with good men who are working to improve their lives via education and not seduction.
I know that you are dedicated to the career you have chosen, and that it pays good. But... dude that is a gand of money on a dude you didn't know.
Average cost for a "tigalo":$12,500 .Without even having moved yet. Posts: 3833 | From: here,there,everywhere | Registered: Nov 2007
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quote:Originally posted by Rumicrazieluv: Wow for a waitress who doesn't take her kids anywhere but to a park for a picnic to "conserve" money that is unbelievable. I guess spending money on a "tigalo" makes her a "retart".
You should have just bought the cow...
You are so right Rumi, I can hardly afford to buy a joint sometimes let alone a whole cow! They must pay waitresses well in the good ole US of A is all I can say, because I cant afford loads of holidays to Egypt a year
Well I know I can't afford holidays to egypt like that. Someone must have lied to me when they said going to college would give you more advantages. I'm gonna go apply at Ihop later, maybe I will be able to retire faster and spend my time traveling the world. Posts: 1121 | From: Too crazy to look at a freakin map to find out.. | Registered: Sep 2006
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quote:Originally posted by Sashyra8: <the good thing about bein american is u can get another job payin 10 to 20 $ an hr and forget about the 12000 she blew!>
If this was true,why you still have'nt got one of this jobs,Tina?
cas i dont want one! and i did not finish college! them good payin jobs are in the pork plants and i tried it hated it so i quit
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