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Thought2
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American Journal of Human Biology
Volume 17, Issue 6 , Pages 690 - 695

An unexpected wide population variation of the G1733A polymorphism of the androgen receptor gene: Data on the Mediterranean region

E. Esteban

Abstract

The androgen receptor (AR) has been proposed as a candidate gene for several cancers (breast, prostate, uterine endometrium, colon, and esophagus). Ethnicity is considered an associated risk factor for some of these cancers. Several case-control genetic studies have been focused in samples of the main ethnic groups, but little is known about the distribution of risk polymorphisms in current populations with accurate ethnic and/or geographic origins. The A allele of the G1733A polymorphism of the AR gene has been associated with increased risk of prostate cancer. We provide data from this marker in 12 samples from 7 Mediterranean countries such as Spain, Italy (Sardinia), Greece, Turkey, Morocco, Algeria, and Egypt. A sample from Ivory Coast has also been analyzed. The A allele distribution shows a frequency in the Ivory Coast population (65.17%) that contrasts with the low values found in Northern Mediterraneans (mean average value of 13.98%). North African populations present two-times higher frequencies (average value of 27.19%) than Europeans. The wide population variation range found for the A allele strengthens the potential interest of further screening as a baseline to the design of future preventive and population health programs.

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Several case-control genetic studies have been focused in samples of the main ethnic groups, but little is known about the distribution of risk polymorphisms in current populations with accurate ethnic and/or geographic origins.

I am not sure what the significance of the new line of evidence is here?...Perhaps, the southward you go, the higher the frequency of the A allele distribution?
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"During the past few years a considerable number of epidemiological studies have demonstrated evidence of familial clustering of prostate cancer, suggesting that INHERITABLE factors may explain a substantial percentage of this disease risk. Ethnicity has been reported as an associated risk factor, and African American men have the highest incident rate of prostate cancer of any ethnic group in the United States..."

"...the G1733A polymorphism supports the hypothesis that genetic factor related to the androgen receptor may influence the behavior of human prostate cancer."

"...the distribution of G1733A plolymorphism has been studied in severeal epidemiological studies....frequencies in Europeans .... are low (around 10%)...."

"Previous data seems to indicate that this polymorphism VARIES LITTLE in populations other than those of Sub-Saharan African origin. The frequency of the A allele is very similar (around 13%) in Americans of European descent....However, in the Mediterranean groups here analyzed, the variation pattern of the A allele is clearly WIDER. The North African samples show frequencies two or three times higher than those reported in Europeans. The differences found suggest a certain degree of Sub-Saharan influence in the current North African population (more accentuated in southern Morrocco)...."

Population Sampled Frequency
Ahizi Ivory Coast .65%
Middle Atlas Berbers .316%
High Atlas Berbers .31%
North-East Atlas Berbers .26%
Siwa Berbers .237%
Mzab Berbers .234%
Basque .22%
Greeks .19%
NW Spain .14%
Turkey .12%
SE Spain .107%
Innner Sardinia .103%
Coast Sardinia .08%

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quote:
Originally posted by Thought2:


"The North African samples show frequencies two or three times higher than those reported in Europeans. The differences found suggest a certain degree of Sub-Saharan influence.."

European Average Frequency is .10%
Greek Average Frequency is almost two times higher at .19%!!!!

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And Basques' average frequency is highest of all the European samples listed (22%), while Turks' frequency (12%) is close to the European average despite their high levels of E3b. So there goes your entire "argument". [Roll Eyes]
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quote:
Originally posted by Evil Euro:
And Basques' average frequency is highest of all the European samples listed (22%), while Turks' frequency (12%) is close to the European average despite their high levels of E3b. So there goes your entire "argument". [Roll Eyes]

.13% is not a high frequency. All the high frequencies of E3b are found in East Africa which is why you are so desperate to make them caucasians! Give it up desperate dog! [Big Grin]
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I dunno, this sounds comical to me.

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quote:
Originally posted by Evil Euro:
And Basques' average frequency is highest of all the European samples listed (22%), while Turks' frequency (12%) is close to the European average despite their high levels of E3b. So there goes your entire "argument". [Roll Eyes]

Thought Writes:

What the hell are you babbling about now. E3b is a lineage derived primarily from Eastern Africa. G1733A, like the Benin Sickle Cell Variant seems to derive primarily from Western or Central Africa. Again, you have no point.

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West/Central African mtDNA in Europeans:

Greek - none = 0%
Italian - 8/411 L = 1.9%
Sicilian - 1/106 L2a = 0.9%
Spanish - 9/419 L = 2.1%

British - 1/100 L1c = 1%
Norwegian - 1/74 L2 = 1.4%
Finnish - 1/50 L3 = 2%


West/Central African Y-chromosomes in Europeans:

Greek - 1/366 A = 0.3%
Italian - 1/416 E(xE3b) = 0.2%
Sicilian - none = 0%
Spanish - 2/475 E3a = 0.4%

German - 1/95 A = 1.1%
Austrian - 1/129 E(xE3b) = 0.8%
French - 1/40 E(xE3b) = 2.5%


Caucasoid autosomal DNA of Europeans:

Sardinian - 0.99
Tuscan - 0.99
Italian - 0.98
Basque - 0.98

Scottish - 0.98
French - 0.97
Norwegian - 0.96
Russian - 0.93


Sources:

Rosser et al. 2000
Wilson et al. 2001
Passarino et al. 2002
Rosenberg et al. 2002
DiGiacomo et al. 2003
Plaza et al. 2003
Brion et al. 2004
Flores et al. 2004
Semino et al. 2004
Pereira et al. 2005


[Roll Eyes]

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Evil euro never gives up. Thats the only good thing I can say about him.
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quote:
Originally posted by KING:
Evil euro never gives up. Thats the only good thing I can say about him.

That is an understatement!! [Eek!] [Eek!]

The idiot has been going at it for what, almost 11 months now!! And about the same thing-- E3b is a "caucasoid" gene and East Africans are part caucasoid!

Seriously, despite his own (at least updated) evidence contradicting him, he continues to miscontrue and distort it all to fit his idiotic propaganda... for almost a YEAR on this forum!!!

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quote:
Originally posted by Evil Euro:
West/Central African mtDNA in Europeans:

Greek - none = 0%
Italian - 8/411 L = 1.9%
Sicilian - 1/106 L2a = 0.9%
Spanish - 9/419 L = 2.1%

British - 1/100 L1c = 1%
Norwegian - 1/74 L2 = 1.4%
Finnish - 1/50 L3 = 2%


West/Central African Y-chromosomes in Europeans:

Greek - 1/366 A = 0.3%
Italian - 1/416 E(xE3b) = 0.2%
Sicilian - none = 0%
Spanish - 2/475 E3a = 0.4%

German - 1/95 A = 1.1%
Austrian - 1/129 E(xE3b) = 0.8%
French - 1/40 E(xE3b) = 2.5%


Caucasoid autosomal DNA of Europeans:

Sardinian - 0.99
Tuscan - 0.99
Italian - 0.98
Basque - 0.98

Scottish - 0.98
French - 0.97
Norwegian - 0.96
Russian - 0.93


Sources:

Rosser et al. 2000
Wilson et al. 2001
Passarino et al. 2002
Rosenberg et al. 2002
DiGiacomo et al. 2003
Plaza et al. 2003
Brion et al. 2004
Flores et al. 2004
Semino et al. 2004
Pereira et al. 2005


[Roll Eyes]

Thought Writes:

Please tell me SPECIFICALLY which one of these studies evaluates Greek dna in comparision to East, West, North, South and Central African dna. I will go and review your sources. If NONE of your sources compare and contrast these populations your point is moot.

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