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Have you or anyone you know of done DNA testing on a Fulani and compared it to the DNA of an Arab of the 7th century or before?

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Originally posted by The Explorer:
Read the post I wrote to you, just before you ran away like some scared rodent, fantasizing about people being "prejudice against Arabs". This is what is called playing dumb - if you are going to use terms, at least learn to use them correctly.

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kid, drop the distractions, and get to producing the materials being asked of you. You are obviously new here, which is why you have no idea who you are dealing with here. Distractions of amateurs are futile.

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Have you or anyone you know of done DNA testing on a Fulani and compared it to the DNA of an Arab of the 7th century or before? If the answer is no, don't mention DNA again in this discussion. Is what I've just said clear?

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You are a total moron, you know that don't you. Have you skipped kindergarten reading class?

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Have you or anyone you know of done DNA testing on a Fulani and compared it to the DNA of an Arab of the 7th century or before? If the answer is no, don't mention DNA again in this discussion. Is what I've just said clear?

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Lol.. and you are.. who exactly?
Trying to puff up your chest and sound authoritive isn't going to help your case, nor is borrowing Gauls argument when your silly case is debunked. A few posts ago, you were questioning the usefullness of genetics, and now you use something that you know has not been done as your last way of saving your behind. I have heard these requests before, Hammer is quite fond of using them as he knows these kind of arguments can't be answered with present day data, or in his case, present day reluctance of mainstream historians to accept various neolithic African contributions in Greece. Using these kind of arguments however, only postpones the absolute demolishment of your arguments, because it certainly does not lend you or your positions credibility. No one credible in the 21st century will use local oral history when genetics are available as a more balanced and reliable way of discerning population origins.

Kalonji

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Originally posted by AswaniAswad:
Timbiktu is associated with Islamic history and there are some useful stuff in that library but over all im not even amazed at all. Arab and European History is the Most Distorted and Fake history i have come across.

Im Sorry ya Ikwan Awlaad but Masudi,Ibn Ishaq,Sahih Muslim, Sahih Bukhari are not authentic as most arabs and muslims think they are i have found many distorted things in Hadiths

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Originally posted by AswaniAswad:
Ya Fulani Ya Binti Wa al Fenana aywa ya Hilwa lakin Fulani qiyama Fe Bet Arab

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Originally posted by Jari-Ankhamun:

You have the Internet Racists like Fawal that come here and other sites spweing hatred of blacks and Africans, talking about African culture being primitive and black I.Q and pretty much on his knees crying and rejoycing becuase he can select Caucasian on a U.S census box..LMAO Pathetic yet when you meet Arabs they are always setting up shop in black communities, all up in our faces becuase they know no one sees these Desert renegade nomads as White nor as anything special. They realize the only people who give a damn about Arabs are black Muslims(To their dissapintment) rather than whites or latinos.

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Yes. I'm Arab from the tribe of Awlaad Berry. What about you? ... And if you
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Originally posted by Jari-Ankhamun:

You have the Internet Racists like Fawal that come here and other sites spweing hatred of blacks and Africans, talking about African culture being primitive and black I.Q and pretty much on his knees crying and rejoycing becuase he can select Caucasian on a U.S census box..LMAO Pathetic yet when you meet Arabs they are always setting up shop in black communities, all up in our faces becuase they know no one sees these Desert renegade nomads as White nor as anything special. They realize the only people who give a damn about Arabs are black Muslims(To their dissapintment) rather than whites or latinos.

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Frankly, I haven't held any animosity towards Arabs for as far as I can remember; in fact, I've generally sympathized with them, especially pertaining to issues where oppression is concerned, like how they soon became targets of "racial-profiling" in the aftermath of September 11th, 2001 events, what's happening to Palestinians under Israeli state-military complex, not to leave out the fate of Iraqis. But as of late, these internet chit chats are beginning to change my perceptions of them greatly -- i.e. vile anti-black/African racism *ironically* mixed with culture-pirating of African culture--and for the negative. These internet chit chats are increasingly convincing me that my sympathy had thus far been greatly misplaced, and needs to be diverted to the appropriate direction.

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I knew that my senses weren't deceiving me when I said that I was beginning to smell here the smell of racial prejudice against Arabs. I can smell racial prejudice from a mile away --- and it stinks!

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Yes. The Habashat are from the Yemen. [/QB]

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Yes. The Habashat are from the Yemen.

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The Habashat are from the Horn of Africa, not Yemen!

"In the past, scholars like Hiob Ludolf and Carlo Conti Rossini postulated that the ancient communities that evolved into the modern Ethiopian state were formed by a migration across the Red Sea of Semitic-speaking South Arabians around 1000 BC who intermarried with local non-Semitic-speaking peoples. Indeed, the ancient Ethiopian kingdom of Aksum ruled much of Southern Arabia including Yemen until the rise of Islam in the 7th century, and both the indigenous languages of Southern Arabia and the Amharic and Tigrinya languages of Ethiopia are South Semitic languages. However, the ancient Semitic language of Ethiopia, is now known to not have derived from Sabaean, and there is evidence of a Semitic speaking presence in Ethiopia and Eritrea at least as early as 2000 BC. There is also evidence of ancient Southern Arabian communities in modern day Ethiopia and Eritrea in certain localities, attested by some archaeological artifacts and ancient Sabaean inscriptions in the old South Arabian alphabet. However, scholars like Stuart Munro-Hay point to the existence of an older D’mt or Da'amot kingdom, prior to any Sabaean migration ca. 4th or 5th c. BC, as well as evidence of to Sabaean immigrants having resided in Ethiopia for little more than a few decades. Furthermore, there is archeological evidence of a region in Northern Ethiopia and Eritrea also called Saba, now referred to as Ethiopian Saba to avoid confusion."

"There is little archaeological evidence to verify the story of the Queen of Sheba — and the longstanding presumption that Sabaean migrants had played a direct role in Ethiopian civilization has recently come under attack. Sabaean influence is speculated by some recent authors to have been minor, limited to a few localities, and disappearing after a few decades or a century, perhaps representing a trading or military colony in some sort of symbiosis or military alliance with the Ethiopian civilization of D`mt."

"Traditional scholarship has assumed that the Habashat were a tribe from modern-day Yemen that migrated to Ethiopia. However, the Southern Semetic inscriptions only use the term ḥbšt to the refer to the Kingdom of Aksum and its inhabitants, especially during the 3rd c., when the ḥbšt (Aksumites) were often at war with the Sabaeans and Himyraites."

"The Sabaean theory was the most common one explaining the origins of the "Habashat" (Habesha) before the 20th century. It was first suggested by Hiob Ludolf and revived by early 20th century Italian scholar Conti Rossini. The theory states that at an early epoch South Arabian tribes, including one called the "Habashat" emigrated to the opposite African coast. According to this theory, Sabaeans brought with them South Arabian letters and language, which gradually evolved into the Ge'ez language and Ge'ez alphabet. However, though the Ge'ez alphabet did develop from Epigraphic South Arabian (whose oldest inscriptions are found in both Ethiopia and Eritrea), it is now known that Ge'ez is not descended from any of the Old South Arabian languages."

"In the large corpus of South Arabian inscriptions, however, there has never been mention of migration to the west coast of the Red Sea, nor of a tribe called "Habashat." All uses of the term date to the 3rd century AD and later, where they are always used in reference to the people of the Kingdom of Aksum. In recent times, this theory has largely been abandoned."

"The earliest inscriptions in the alphabet date to the 9th century BC in Akkele Guzay, Eritrea and in the 8th century BC, found in Babylonia and in Yemen."

"Aksum was previously thought to have been founded by Semitic-speaking Sabaeans who crossed the Red Sea from South Arabia (modern Yemen) on the basis of Conti Rossini's theories and prolific work on Ethiopian history—but most scholars now agree that it was an indigenous African development." [/QB]

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Yes. The Habashat are from the Yemen.

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The Habashat are from the Horn of Africa, not Yemen!

"In the past, scholars like Hiob Ludolf and Carlo Conti Rossini postulated that the ancient communities that evolved into the modern Ethiopian state were formed by a migration across the Red Sea of Semitic-speaking South Arabians around 1000 BC who intermarried with local non-Semitic-speaking peoples. Indeed, the ancient Ethiopian kingdom of Aksum ruled much of Southern Arabia including Yemen until the rise of Islam in the 7th century, and both the indigenous languages of Southern Arabia and the Amharic and Tigrinya languages of Ethiopia are South Semitic languages. However, the ancient Semitic language of Ethiopia, is now known to not have derived from Sabaean, and there is evidence of a Semitic speaking presence in Ethiopia and Eritrea at least as early as 2000 BC. There is also evidence of ancient Southern Arabian communities in modern day Ethiopia and Eritrea in certain localities, attested by some archaeological artifacts and ancient Sabaean inscriptions in the old South Arabian alphabet. However, scholars like Stuart Munro-Hay point to the existence of an older D’mt or Da'amot kingdom, prior to any Sabaean migration ca. 4th or 5th c. BC, as well as evidence of to Sabaean immigrants having resided in Ethiopia for little more than a few decades. Furthermore, there is archeological evidence of a region in Northern Ethiopia and Eritrea also called Saba, now referred to as Ethiopian Saba to avoid confusion."

"There is little archaeological evidence to verify the story of the Queen of Sheba — and the longstanding presumption that Sabaean migrants had played a direct role in Ethiopian civilization has recently come under attack. Sabaean influence is speculated by some recent authors to have been minor, limited to a few localities, and disappearing after a few decades or a century, perhaps representing a trading or military colony in some sort of symbiosis or military alliance with the Ethiopian civilization of D`mt."

"Traditional scholarship has assumed that the Habashat were a tribe from modern-day Yemen that migrated to Ethiopia. However, the Southern Semetic inscriptions only use the term ḥbšt to the refer to the Kingdom of Aksum and its inhabitants, especially during the 3rd c., when the ḥbšt (Aksumites) were often at war with the Sabaeans and Himyraites."

"The Sabaean theory was the most common one explaining the origins of the "Habashat" (Habesha) before the 20th century. It was first suggested by Hiob Ludolf and revived by early 20th century Italian scholar Conti Rossini. The theory states that at an early epoch South Arabian tribes, including one called the "Habashat" emigrated to the opposite African coast. According to this theory, Sabaeans brought with them South Arabian letters and language, which gradually evolved into the Ge'ez language and Ge'ez alphabet. However, though the Ge'ez alphabet did develop from Epigraphic South Arabian (whose oldest inscriptions are found in both Ethiopia and Eritrea), it is now known that Ge'ez is not descended from any of the Old South Arabian languages."

"In the large corpus of South Arabian inscriptions, however, there has never been mention of migration to the west coast of the Red Sea, nor of a tribe called "Habashat." All uses of the term date to the 3rd century AD and later, where they are always used in reference to the people of the Kingdom of Aksum. In recent times, this theory has largely been abandoned."

"The earliest inscriptions in the alphabet date to the 9th century BC in Akkele Guzay, Eritrea and in the 8th century BC, found in Babylonia and in Yemen."

"Aksum was previously thought to have been founded by Semitic-speaking Sabaeans who crossed the Red Sea from South Arabia (modern Yemen) on the basis of Conti Rossini's theories and prolific work on Ethiopian history—but most scholars now agree that it was an indigenous African development."

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This is what you call talking loud and saying nothing. Wow! What ignorance!

"indigenous African development"

"The Habashat are from the Horn of Africa, not Yemen"

"both the indigenous languages of Southern Arabia and the Amharic and Tigrinya languages of Ethiopia are South Semitic languages"

"though the Ge'ez alphabet did develop from Epigraphic South Arabian (whose oldest inscriptions are found in both Ethiopia and Eritrea), it is now known that Ge'ez is not descended from any of the Old South Arabian languages"

"there is evidence of a Semitic speaking presence in Ethiopia and Eritrea at least as early as 2000 BC"

"The Habashat are from the Horn of Africa, not Yemen"

"indigenous African development"

????? [/QB]

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Is that why they speak a Semitic language?! Since you are copying things from Wikipedia, read this:

"South Semitic is one of the three macro-classifications in Semitic linguistics, the other two being East Semitic (e.g. Akkadian) and West Semitic (e.g. Arabic, Aramaic, Hebrew). Semitic itself is considered a branch of the larger Afro-Asiatic language family found, as indicated in the name, both in (northern and eastern) Africa and (southwestern) Asia. (See Joseph Greenberg's classification of African languages.)

South Semitic is again divided into two main branches: South Arabian, on the southern coast of the Arabian Peninsula, and Ethiopian Semitic, found across the Red Sea in the Horn of Africa, mainly in modern Ethiopia and Eritrea. The Ethiopian Semitic languages have by far the greatest numbers of modern native speakers. Eritrea's main languages are mainly Tigrinya and Tigre which are North Ethiopic languages while Amharic (South Ethiopic) is the main language spoken in Ethiopia (along with Tigrinya in the northern province of Tigray). Southern Arabian languages have withered at the expense of the more dominant Arabic (also a Semitic language) for more than a millennium. The Ethnologue lists six modern members of the South Arabian branch and 14 members of the Ethiopian branch.

The "homeland" of the South Semitic languages is widely debated, but is no longer believed to have been Northern Ethiopia and Eritrea or the southwest corner of the Arabian Peninsula. The modern and historic presence of South Semitic Ethiopian languages (and Ethiopic script) in Africa is believed by some to be due to a migration of South Arabian speakers from Yemen within the last few thousand years. Such a migration is a "backwards" one in that Afro-Asiatic languages arose in Africa originally and moved into the Middle East and Arabian Peninsula in the form of Proto-Semitic, since all major branches of the larger Afro-Asiatic are found in Africa. Older research, such as A. Murtonen (1967), and Lionel Bender (1997)[1], suggesting that Semitic may have originated in Ethiopia, has been disproven by more recent research by some of its earliest defenders.[2]"

You will know nothing about the history of the people in the area until you first know the descriptions of the people in the area in the past. You will never know anything about the history of the people in the area until you stop comparing apples and oranges. You will never know anything about the people in the area until you tear down that wall in your head that was built by the European colonists and missionaries. So in the words of Ronald Reagan, TEAR DOWN THAT WALL! [/QB]

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Originally posted by Red, White, and Blue + Christian:
Nowhere in Africa is the Y chromosomes 100% E1b1a for the Fulbo. Niger, Nigeria, Cameroon, Sudan and eastwards there is a high amount of R-M173. This is the signature Fulbe Y chromosome. They also have T (formerly K2).

The B'nei Yishmael ben Avraham = pure Arabs' signature Y chromosome is J1.

Here is the distribution if J1:

http://sites.google.com/site/dandraghici/J1.jpg

Wikipedia's J1 page says:

North Africa
In North Africa, J1 first entered Ethiopia with the spread of Semitic speakers[citation needed] Eritrea (11%), Ethiopia (9%), Ethiopia-Amhara (33.3%). It spread later to North Africa in historic times (as identified by the motif YCAIIa22-YCAIIb22; Algerians 35.0%, Tunisians 31%), where it became something like a marker of the Semitic expansion in the early medieval period [19]. J1 also seems to be found with high frequency in the northern parts of Sudan (Arabs 45%, Nubians 41%, Copts 39%, Beja 36%), and present with lower frequency in the region of Darfur (Masalit 6%, Fur 6%).[20] Haplogroup J1 may be found in as many as 20% of Egyptian males,[21] with the frequency of this haplogroup tending to be comparatively high in the south of the country.[22]

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I did not want to post about the iTargi (Tuaregs).

The Speakers of Tamasheq (Kel Tamasheq) = iTargi,
have many origins. Hence, many kels. Some of the ruling castes or Imouchar are of Arab origin. Yet, when they came into Africa, Islam did not exist. They are descendants of people from the Middle East who where Jewish and Christian.

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Is that why they speak a Semitic language?! Since you are copying things from Wikipedia, read this:

"South Semitic is one of the three macro-classifications in Semitic linguistics, the other two being East Semitic (e.g. Akkadian) and West Semitic (e.g. Arabic, Aramaic, Hebrew). Semitic itself is considered a branch of the larger Afro-Asiatic language family found, as indicated in the name, both in (northern and eastern) Africa and (southwestern) Asia. (See Joseph Greenberg's classification of African languages.)

South Semitic is again divided into two main branches: South Arabian, on the southern coast of the Arabian Peninsula, and Ethiopian Semitic, found across the Red Sea in the Horn of Africa, mainly in modern Ethiopia and Eritrea. The Ethiopian Semitic languages have by far the greatest numbers of modern native speakers. Eritrea's main languages are mainly Tigrinya and Tigre which are North Ethiopic languages while Amharic (South Ethiopic) is the main language spoken in Ethiopia (along with Tigrinya in the northern province of Tigray). Southern Arabian languages have withered at the expense of the more dominant Arabic (also a Semitic language) for more than a millennium. The Ethnologue lists six modern members of the South Arabian branch and 14 members of the Ethiopian branch.

The "homeland" of the South Semitic languages is widely debated, but is no longer believed to have been Northern Ethiopia and Eritrea or the southwest corner of the Arabian Peninsula. The modern and historic presence of South Semitic Ethiopian languages (and Ethiopic script) in Africa is believed by some to be due to a migration of South Arabian speakers from Yemen within the last few thousand years. Such a migration is a "backwards" one in that Afro-Asiatic languages arose in Africa originally and moved into the Middle East and Arabian Peninsula in the form of Proto-Semitic, since all major branches of the larger Afro-Asiatic are found in Africa. Older research, such as A. Murtonen (1967), and Lionel Bender (1997)[1], suggesting that Semitic may have originated in Ethiopia, has been disproven by more recent research by some of its earliest defenders.[2]"

You will know nothing about the history of the people in the area until you first know the descriptions of the people in the area in the past. You will never know anything about the history of the people in the area until you stop comparing apples and oranges. You will never know anything about the people in the area until you tear down that wall in your head that was built by the European colonists and missionaries. So in the words of Ronald Reagan, TEAR DOWN THAT WALL!

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So what, the Semitic languages belongs to the Afrasan linguistic phylum one of the four grouped African language groups. The fact that an AFRICAN population speaks a Semitic language shouldn't be odd. The question should be..

Why do populations, living in ancient and present day Southwest Asia, speak variants of the Semitic language group, an AFRICAN language group?

Non-African Semitic speakers, i.e. Isrealis, Arabs.etc , also posses moderate levels of African ancestry, which in large part can be attributed to the expansion of Semitic languages into Southwest Asia via Africa.

"The modern and historic presence of South Semitic Ethiopian languages (and Ethiopic script) in Africa is believed by some to be due to a migration of South Arabian speakers from Yemen within the last few thousand years."

This is no longer a valid theory, all of the evidence points to an indigenous development.

"Aksum was previously thought to have been founded by Semitic-speaking Sabaeans who crossed the Red Sea from South Arabia (modern Yemen) on the basis of Conti Rossini's theories and prolific work on Ethiopian history—but most scholars now agree that it was an indigenous African development."

"Furthermore, Ge'ez, the ancient Semitic language of Eritrea and Ethiopia, is now known not to have derived from Sabaean, and there is evidence of a Semitic speaking presence in Ethiopia and Eritrea at least as early as 2000 BC."

"The earliest evidence of agriculture, urban settlement and trade in Eritrea was found in the western region of the country consisting of archaeological remains dating back to 3500 BC in sites called the Gash group. Based on the archaeological evidence, there seems to have been a connection between the peoples of the Gash group and the civilizations of the Nile Valley namely Ancient Egypt and Nubia." [/QB]

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... what you are doing now is proving yourself to be a complete dunce. You do realize that Semite/Semitic means from Sam the son of Noah, don't you? Just checking.

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Semitic means no such thing. Semitic is a linguistic term.
Shem is a biblical term. The linguistic term derives from
the biblical term but is not synonymous.

Canaanitic is a Semitic language but K*na`an isn't a son of Shem.

`Eylam is a son of Shem but Elamitic is a non-Semitic language.

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... what you are doing now is proving yourself to be a complete dunce. You do realize that Semite/Semitic means from Sam the son of Noah, don't you? Just checking.

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Originally posted by alTakruri:
Semitic means no such thing. Semitic is a linguistic term.
Shem is a biblical term. The linguistic term derives from
the biblical term but is not synonymous.

Canaanitic is a Semitic language but K*na`an isn't a son of Shem.

`Eylam is a son of Shem but Elamitic is a non-Semitic language.

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... what you are doing now is proving yourself to be a complete dunce. You do realize that Semite/Semitic means from Sam the son of Noah, don't you? Just checking.

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Semitic means from Sam (Shem) the son of Noah. It's a no-brainer!

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Originally posted by alTakruri:
K*na`an is the fourth son of Hham.

Canaanites were not Shemites.

Canaanitic is a Semitic language.

Semite does not equal Shemite.

I explained this to you earlier.
But as an enthusiast you have
no concern about precision in
terminology. I leave you to
your enthusiasm over Arabs
and your non-parsimonious
propositins.

You will find that at this
forum the respected posters
check enthusiasm at the door
and apply a multidisciplinary
approach to our studies.

We don't preach, we teach.

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