Continuing. To those who are still puzzled. The Sandawe and Hazda (hunter gathers?) and other Great Lakes region groups have more “non-African/basal Eurasian” AIM than AFRAMS at K2/K3. per Lazaridis et al. Significance?
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Here is more…it is all coming together now. Loving it!!! --------- From the Sarah Tishkoff and Brenna Henn Paper:
Quote: The presence of Khoisan linguistic groups in Tanzania was earlier considered to support A ***PALEOBIOLOGICAL-BASED MODEL***, indicating that Khoisan populations inhabited all southern Africa and much of eastern Africa (as far north as Egypt; Tobias 1964; Bra¨uer 1978).
Click languages, spoken only in Africa with the exception of the extinct Damin ritual language of Australia (Hale 1992), are among the richest of all human languages in terms of the number of distinct phonemes (Gu¨ldemann and Vossen 2000). Greenberg included all languageswithclickconsonants in theKhoisan(or ‘‘Khoe-San’’) language family. Although they share the element of click consonants, African click languages are highly divergent
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L0*=sub-haplogroup. L0d, L0k etc. see sub group branching in table posted. L0* not the "unassigned" Hg.
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Here is more ------ Quote: Y-chromosome studies (Knight et al. 2003) in the Hadza and Ju|’hoansi San indicated a deep separation between the 2 groups (.40 kya; Knight et al. 2003).
The Hadza language is now considered by some linguists to be a linguistic isolate, genealogically unrelated to other click languages (Ruhlen 1991; Sands 1998), although others have suggested that Hadza may have similarities with Afro-Asiatic languages (Elderkin 1982). Overall, proposed linguistic relationships among the click languages (fig. 1) predict deep genetic divergence between these 3 groups (Cavalli-Sforza et al. 1988).
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The AIM published by Lazaridis et al also confirms this. “Non-African- and Basal Eurasian” are NOT found in the Ju Hoansi!!
Damn!! I am good! Is that too egotical Sage? Am I over the top? Huh? Get the picture?
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SMH. in this context. * implies sub-groups of L0 as seen in the branching tree. It does not imply "unassigned" L0. In other words *=wildcard.
Holding the stick on the wrong end ...brother!
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(Wood ET2003), Contrasting patterns of Y chromosome and mtDNA variation in Africa: evidence for sex-biased demographic processes
Quote: In the context of comparable published data for other African populations, analyses of each of these independently inherited DNA segments indicate that click-speaking Hadzabe and Ju|’hoansi are separated by genetic distance as great OR GREATER than that between ANY OTHER PAIR of African populations. Phyloge-netic tree topology indicates a basal separation of the speak ancient ancestors of these click-speaking peoples. That genetic divergence does not appear to be the result of recent gene flow from neighboring groups (got that Lioness. No Bantu Expansion!!)
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xyyman has no overriding theory, it's just one long rambling rant that he makes up as he goes along
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