It's simple. Romans introduced written script all over Europe. This is why they use Roman icons in Germanic and Latin based languages. The first people who knew how to read and write were monks and aristocrats. The first books were bibles translated from Latin and later from Greek.
The Romans and Greeks were European
Yes, but there were NOT whites.
Yes they were. What do you imagine them to be?
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It's simple. Romans introduced written script all over Europe. This is why they use Roman icons in Germanic and Latin based languages. The first people who knew how to read and write were monks and aristocrats. The first books were bibles translated from Latin and later from Greek.
The Romans and Greeks were European
Yes, but there were NOT whites.
white people with tans
Those whites that can tan are mixed race, but the Greeks and Romans were melanated people.
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It's simple. Romans introduced written script all over Europe. This is why they use Roman icons in Germanic and Latin based languages. The first people who knew how to read and write were monks and aristocrats. The first books were bibles translated from Latin and later from Greek.
The Romans and Greeks were European
Yes, but there were NOT whites.
Yes they were. What do you imagine them to be?
They were melanated people, much like the Ethiopians etc.
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It's simple. Romans introduced written script all over Europe. This is why they use Roman icons in Germanic and Latin based languages. The first people who knew how to read and write were monks and aristocrats. The first books were bibles translated from Latin and later from Greek.
quote:Firstly, E-M81 is the most common haplogroup in North Africa showing its highest concentrations in Northwestern Africa (76 % in Saharawis in Morocco (Arredi et al., 2004)) with cline frequencies decreasing eastward: Algeria (45 %), Libya (34 %) and Egypt (10 %) (Robino et al., 2008; Triki-Fendri et al., submitted; Arredi et al., 2004).
Besides, Ottoni et al., (2011) have reported that E-M81 appear to constitute a common paternal genetic matrix in the Tuareg populations where it was encountered at high frequency (89 %).
Hence, the distribution of this haplogroup in Africa closely matches the present area of Berber-speaking population’s allocation on the continent, suggesting a close haplogroup-ethnic group parallelism (Bosch et al., 2001; Cruciani et al., 2002; 2004; Arredi et al., 2004; Fadhlaoui-Zid et al., 2011; Bekada et al., 2013). However, knowing that the Berber dialects have been replaced by Arabic in North African populations, carriers of E-M81 haplogroup are currently Arab-speaking peoples whose ancestors were Berber-speaking.
Outside of Africa, E-M81 is almost absent in the Middle East and in Europe (with the exception of Iberia and Sicily). The presence of E-M81 in the Iberian Peninsula (12 % in southern Portugal) (Cruciani et al., 2004) has been attributed to trans-Mediterranean contacts linked to the Islamic influence, since it is typically Berber (Bosch et al., 2001; Semino et al., 2004; Beleza et al., 2006; Alvarez et al., 2009; Cruciani et al., 2007; Trombetta et al., 2011).
—S Triki-Fendri, A Rebai 2015
Synthetic review on the genetic relatedness between North Africa and Arabia deduced from paternal lineage distributions
quote:Originally posted by Cass/:
And there's not a European genetic cluster; Northern Europeans & Southern Europeans can also easily be distinguished into two separate groups based on autosomal DNA:
quote:Using a genome-wide single nucleotide polymorphism (SNP) panel, we observed population structure in a diverse group of Europeans and European Americans. Under a variety of conditions and tests, there is a consistent and reproducible distinction between “northern” and “southern” European population groups: most individual participants with southern European ancestry (Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, and Greek) have >85% membership in the “southern” population; and most northern, western, eastern, and central Europeans have >90% in the “northern” population group.
Exactly, or just an Ethiopian, Somalian or Dravidian group of people.
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It's simple. Romans introduced written script all over Europe. This is why they use Roman icons in Germanic and Latin based languages. The first people who knew how to read and write were monks and aristocrats. The first books were bibles translated from Latin and later from Greek.
quote:Firstly, E-M81 is the most common haplogroup in North Africa showing its highest concentrations in Northwestern Africa (76 % in Saharawis in Morocco (Arredi et al., 2004)) with cline frequencies decreasing eastward: Algeria (45 %), Libya (34 %) and Egypt (10 %) (Robino et al., 2008; Triki-Fendri et al., submitted; Arredi et al., 2004).
Besides, Ottoni et al., (2011) have reported that E-M81 appear to constitute a common paternal genetic matrix in the Tuareg populations where it was encountered at high frequency (89 %).
Hence, the distribution of this haplogroup in Africa closely matches the present area of Berber-speaking population’s allocation on the continent, suggesting a close haplogroup-ethnic group parallelism (Bosch et al., 2001; Cruciani et al., 2002; 2004; Arredi et al., 2004; Fadhlaoui-Zid et al., 2011; Bekada et al., 2013). However, knowing that the Berber dialects have been replaced by Arabic in North African populations, carriers of E-M81 haplogroup are currently Arab-speaking peoples whose ancestors were Berber-speaking.
Outside of Africa, E-M81 is almost absent in the Middle East and in Europe (with the exception of Iberia and Sicily). The presence of E-M81 in the Iberian Peninsula (12 % in southern Portugal) (Cruciani et al., 2004) has been attributed to trans-Mediterranean contacts linked to the Islamic influence, since it is typically Berber (Bosch et al., 2001; Semino et al., 2004; Beleza et al., 2006; Alvarez et al., 2009; Cruciani et al., 2007; Trombetta et al., 2011).
—S Triki-Fendri, A Rebai 2015
Synthetic review on the genetic relatedness between North Africa and Arabia deduced from paternal lineage distributions
quote:Originally posted by Cass/:
And there's not a European genetic cluster; Northern Europeans & Southern Europeans can also easily be distinguished into two separate groups based on autosomal DNA:
quote:Using a genome-wide single nucleotide polymorphism (SNP) panel, we observed population structure in a diverse group of Europeans and European Americans. Under a variety of conditions and tests, there is a consistent and reproducible distinction between “northern” and “southern” European population groups: most individual participants with southern European ancestry (Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, and Greek) have >85% membership in the “southern” population; and most northern, western, eastern, and central Europeans have >90% in the “northern” population group.
Exactly, or just an Ethiopian, Somalian or Dravidian group of people.
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It's also funny that whites want to be indigenous to all places on Earth. Heard from a friend they want the UN to classify them as indigenous to southern Africa. Is it certain genes that cause them to behave this way? <--- innocent question.
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Bronze head from a statue of Rome’s first emperor Augustus. Found in Meroë, Sudan, made in 27–25 BC.
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Bronze head from a statue of Rome’s first emperor Augustus. Found in Meroë, Sudan, made in 27–25 BC.
↑ this could be a Somalian, Ethiopian or Indian.
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Can I request that this thread be appropriately moved to the Kemet section, were this kind of discussion is more suited?
It started ok as a "PSA" of some sort by Djehuti but the conversation in general is not suitable for Egyptology IMO. There also have been more insightful on topic threads that have been moved since new management for comparison... It's only fair.
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quote:These important differences have lead some, such as James Watson (1996), codiscoverer of the structure of DNA, to endorse eugenics, when free of bias and of state compulsion.
—Thomas C. Leonard
Retrospectives Eugenics and Economics in the Progressive Era
Journal of Economic Perspectives—Volume 19, Number 4—Fall 2005—Pages 207–224
Note: Watson, James D. 1996. “President’s Essay.” Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory. Annual Report, pp. 1–20.Posts: 22234 | From: האם אינכם כילדי הכרית אלי בני ישראל | Registered: Nov 2010
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Bronze head from a statue of Rome’s first emperor Augustus. Found in Meroë, Sudan, made in 27–25 BC.
Meroë, Sudan was places with high priests, the head was placed there because he thought they could find a cure of his illness and pass it on trough the head, so he could heal. He himself actually never was there. This was the case with many of these Romans.
Nice try.
quote: Find out how this iconic bronze head of Rome’s first emperor Augustus became a symbol of African resistance in the ancient royal city of Meroë, in northern Sudan.
Ancient DNA results from Kush and the Tasian site of Kadruka (precusor to Badarian/Naqada):
From Genetic Patterns of Y-chromosome and Mitochondrial DNA Variation, with Implications to the Peopling of the Sudan (Hassan 2009)Posts: 22234 | From: האם אינכם כילדי הכרית אלי בני ישראל | Registered: Nov 2010
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Bronze head from a statue of Rome’s first emperor Augustus. Found in Meroë, Sudan, made in 27–25 BC.
Meroë, Sudan was places with high priests, the head was placed there because he thought they could find a cure of his illness and pass it on trough the head, so he could heal. He himself actually never was there. This was the case with many of these Romans.
Nice try.
As usual you miss the point entirely. It's the head of the first Roman Emperor Augustus. The fact that it was found in Sudan is irrelevant, it is just basic information that should be given when you post a sculpture, title, date, location, etc
"Nice try" at showing what?
Your comment "Nice try" makes no sense.
It's a Roman sculpture of Augustus who was born in Rome, that is the point, he was a European and looks like one
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Bronze head from a statue of Rome’s first emperor Augustus. Found in Meroë, Sudan, made in 27–25 BC.
Meroë, Sudan was places with high priests, the head was placed there because he thought they could find a cure of his illness and pass it on trough the head, so he could heal. He himself actually never was there. This was the case with many of these Romans.
Nice try.
As usual you miss the point entirely. It's the head of the first Roman Emperor Augustus. The fact that it was found in Sudan is irrelevant, it is just basic information that should be given when you post a sculpture, title, date, location, etc
"Nice try" at showing what?
Your comment "Nice try" makes no sense.
It's a Roman sculpture of Augustus who was born in Rome, that is the point, he was a European and looks like one
"As usual you miss the point entirely."? lol Look who is talking.
So that's the reason why you've posted these images from "Europeans" when it came to Africans? Yeah, that's logic.
Nice try.
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quote:Originally posted by Ish Gebor: "As usual you miss the point entirely."? lol Look who is talking.
So that's the reason why you've posted these images from "Europeans" when it came to Africans? Yeah, that's logic.
Nice try.
No I didn't post Europeans when it came to Africans. I posted a Roman when it was implied that the Romans were not Europeans or that they were some kind of mulattoes, that is BS except for a small few with partial North African ancestry
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