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than prove to me that m78 m81 and m123 were found in african american if you can than my statement will be blown away but you cant you guys are good in insult but your friend explorere didnt gave me frequencies for mauritania mali and niger for m81 instead of attacking me than he could give the frequencies but he dont why ? because he only assume m81 is common in those countries e3b1c1
quote:Originally posted by e3b1c1: do you think 30,000 years is recently are you mad e3b1c1
It's actually about 25,000 years ago, and when Africans migrated into the near east carrying E3b to become your ancestor, it was during the early Mesolithic about 20,000 years ago, so the split was fairly recent.
Again, the only thing that unites you to these Africans is the fact that you are carrying an African lineage.
A man like this Somali below mixed with your Arab ancestors to give you the E3B derivative today that you so proudly carry, get over it kid.
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its still very far back in time 25,000 years is a long time seriously ps. the man in the picture is somalian they belong to e3b1 the europeans are more closer to him than i do i belong to e3b3 and the iberians who belong to e3b2 are not the same as this guy thats why i think calling e3b somalian is stupit because e3b2 and e3b3 are not somalians e3b1c1
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quote:Originally posted by e3b1c1: its still very far back in time 25,000 years isa long time seriously
Ok? They also migrated into the middle east 20,000 years ago and were/are still African so what's your point?
Like I also told you before, genetics do not equal race, I implore you to go and take a basic genetic class if possible.
quote:Originally posted by e3b1c1: ps. the man in the picture is somalian they belong to e3b1 the europeans are more closer to him than i do i belong to e3b3 and the iberians who belong to e3b2 are not the same as this guy thats why i think calling e3b somalian is stupit because e3b2 and e3b3 are not somalians e3b1c1
All of you carry lineages that descend from Africans whom resembled that man, get over it kid.
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quote:yes but easten african ethiopian cant win in short distance and a western african slaves cant win a marathon you only prove again that e3a and e3b are diffrent race e3b is fitt yo the long distance not like e3a they are diffrent races
Okay. Who am I to argue?
NYC Marathon winner Paul Tergat. Prime example of the non-black somalid race.
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quote:Originally posted by e3b1c1: its still very far back in time 25,000 years isa long time seriously
Ok? They also migrated into the middle east 20,000 years ago and were/are still African so what's your point?
Like I also told you before, genetics do not equal race, I implore you to go and take a basic genetic class if possible.
Right.
E1b1a&E1b1b are probably under 10k years apart in terms of split from E1b1*, and even if E1b1b were somehow a "Somalid" lineage, by E3bwannab's own standards it derived "a long time ago [20+ kya] so this length somehow seperates E1b1b from its descendants.
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so apocalypse does paul tergat belong to e3a ? how do you know ? as far as i know haile gabraselasi and hisam el garuge from morroco both were champion in long distance and both e3b probably e3b1 e3b1c1
Given that E3b is accompanied by other typical African markers
Lets see the Typical African markers
4% I 2% E1b1b
Look at this moronic wop, bypassing cited African markers, and going onto cite one western Eurasian, and a "sub-Saharan" African marker.
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call me dog anything you want but at least i am not slave and thats what makes you inferrriour as oposed to me
Naw, you are much more than just a slave; you are a servile sissy rug head. Your inability to formulate an answer is a good sign of this.
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i think sissy is better than a slave my opinion ps. you didnt answere about the frequencies you think people who read this thread cant see it that you run form the answere on the m81 frequencies in those countries give them you chicken e3b1c1
quote:Originally posted by e3b1c1: ps. you didnt answere about the frequencies you think people who read this thread cant see it that you run form the answere
You have some nerve diaperhead...
Here's a question that you've been avoiding since your first post in this thread....
I challenge you to show me another lineage that is closer to this lineage(E), and diverged as recently as E1b1a and E1b1b did?
Do you remember your erroneous IJ comparison?
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Well, a burqa pussy is entitled to opinion; doesn't make it any less next to meaningless.
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ok i gave up so i am african so let be united black power is my new spirit ps. i dont think somalid v13 can win you guys you are to stubern so i say if you cant beat them join them black power pn2 clade the missing link regards e3b1c1
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quote:so apocalypse does paul tergat belong to e3a ? how do you know ?
Arguing with you is like trying to dip water with swiss cheese. You don't retain logic very well. By posting Paul Tergat's photo I was merely being ironic - in response to your claim that East African marathon winners are, ipso facto, e3b somalids. Of course I don't know Paul Tergat's Y chromosome. But the fact is that neither do you - devastating your claim that there's a somalid e3b race. If this race exists then the only way to determine membership is by carrying around a genetic kit.
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but i dont belive in somalid race since somalians are m78 and i am e3b3 and the iberians are e3b2 so we are not somalids only e3b1 is , thats what i talled mind over matter that the somalid guy in the picture is m78 the europeans related to him not me as i am completely diffrent branch e3b3 same goes for the iberians e3b2 we are not related to him e3b1c1
quote:Originally posted by Freehand: [QUOTE]Originally posted by MindoverMatter718: [qb] [QUOTE] E1b1a&E1b1b are probably under 10k years apart in terms of split from E1b1*
E1b1b & E1b1a split 30,000years ago thats the date of the last share mutation.
E1b1a is confined to Subsaharan Africa they left as Slaves.
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yes but even though m78 master in europe m81 master in north west africa and iberia and m34 is master in the horn arabia and antolia we are still related to these e3a slaves belive me i dont happy about it but thats a fact it called pn2 clade this our common ancestor with this e3a slaves e3b1c1
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quote:E1b1a is confined to Subsaharan Africa they left as Slaves.
How when most never left Africa and most were never slaves..? You're talking about every single person who exists now or who has ever exited who possess/possessed this haplogroup. You are nonsensical.. You two are truly brain dead. Never seen anyone on this website perceived to be as dumb as you too.....
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quote:Originally posted by Somalid_V13: E1b1b & E1b1a split 30,000years ago thats the date of the last share mutation.
And? No one disputed this.
The point being that the date around 26 kya when E1b1b split off from E1b1 in East Africa isn't far removed from the last point at which E1b1b share's mutations with E-M2 (E1b1a formerly E3a) and E-M329's (formerly E3c) most recent common ancestor "30 kya" [though more like 28 kya] in East Africa.
They all originated from the same region, E3b shortly after its and E3a&E3c's MRCA's line of descent split.
quote:E1b1a is confined to Subsaharan Africa they left as Slaves.
That's an utterly obvious and unsophisticated lie. Besides the fact that they couldn't have been "confined there" since it's found elsewhere:
quote:"Distribution of E3b1-M35 derivatives The presence of signature sub-Saharan African mtDNA lineages in the south Arabian populations has been attributed to various waves of gene flow to the region, including that associated with the East African slave trade. This is apparent from the exact mtDNA haplotype matches between lineages in Yemen and East Africa, including those associated with the Bantu expansion. The presence of the E3a-M2 lineage in Oman (7.4%),4 Yemen (3.2%), UAE (5.5%) and Qatar (2.8%) could lead to the oversimplified conclusion that these chromosomes are also a contribution from the East African slave trade. Mitochondrial DNA analysis of the Yemen Hadramawt indicates recent gene flow (2500 yBP) from Africa to the Arab populations in part through the slave trade, yet an ancient arrival from East Africa is responsible for the ***Y-chromosome*** haplotypes."
- Alicia Cadenaz 2007
^^The above conclusion should almost be common sense to anyone with knowledge of the fact that enslaved men weren't usually allowed to mingle with Arab women.
Infact, the majority of E3a Y DNA outside of Western Africa can't be attributed to the slave trade.
quote:Originally posted by Somalid_V13:
No need to frown, facts are facts.
quote:How deep your IQ can be to not understand simple facts
I really (and when I say this I mean **reallyy**) don't give a **** about IQ but I am curious as to what I could have said that would entail a lack of comprehension of something on my part.
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quote:The presence of the E3a-M2 lineage in Oman (7.4%),4 Yemen (3.2%), UAE (5.5%) and Qatar (2.8%) could lead to the oversimplified conclusion that these chromosomes are also a contribution from the East African slave trade.
Its called Arab slave trade
Negrids were transfered by Somalid Ships into Zinj-bar (port of the Slaves) & were raised up until the 20th century in plantations. (watch Africa Addio & Mondo Cane)
Zinj-bar (port of the Negrids)Twin cities still exist till this day, even the Arabic word for a Subsahran person is Slave when they see a Black person they call him an "Abeed" thats the only way those folks knew your racial type! They easily differntiated you from the refined East Africans; Abssinians & HOA Berbers or NW Berbers because they knew these are untamed Somalid freemen not Negrids! Somalid Berbers in NW Africa call themselves "Imazighen" which means the same Untamed Freeman.
All Humans originated from Africa, E1b1b are the one who evolved to become a seafaring culture. I feel ashamed of identifying with anything beyond E1b1b, the same away I hate identifying with my primate ancestors.
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quote:E1b1a is confined to Subsaharan Africa they left as Slaves.
How when most never left Africa and most were never slaves..?
Quack science contradicts itself. The irony here, is that the crakazid wop "Somalid_V13" and crakazid-worshiping puppy "e3b1c1" tacitly admit that "their" people must also be slaves, as they carry the same markers as both E3a and E3b bearers . Italy has E3b, Benin haplotype HbS, L mtDNA, sub-Saharan HLA et al. markers, and Oman also has these markers, including E3a.
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E1b1b & E1b1a split 30,000years ago thats the date of the last share mutation.
And? No one disputed this.
Not that it's important, but I question it. What is the primary source for this claim?
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quote:E1b1a is confined to Subsaharan Africa they left as Slaves.
That's an utterly obvious and unsophisticated lie. Besides the fact that they couldn't have been "confined there" since it's found elsewhere:
quote:"Distribution of E3b1-M35 derivatives The presence of signature sub-Saharan African mtDNA lineages in the south Arabian populations has been attributed to various waves of gene flow to the region, including that associated with the East African slave trade. This is apparent from the exact mtDNA haplotype matches between lineages in Yemen and East Africa, including those associated with the Bantu expansion. The presence of the E3a-M2 lineage in Oman (7.4%),4 Yemen (3.2%), UAE (5.5%) and Qatar (2.8%) could lead to the oversimplified conclusion that these chromosomes are also a contribution from the East African slave trade. Mitochondrial DNA analysis of the Yemen Hadramawt indicates recent gene flow (2500 yBP) from Africa to the Arab populations in part through the slave trade, yet an ancient arrival from East Africa is responsible for the ***Y-chromosome*** haplotypes."
- Alicia Cadenaz 2007
Good observation.
Matter of fact members of R1, E3b, E3a, A, B, J et al. haplogroups have all been implicated in becoming victims of slavery at some point or another. Going by the standards of the resident trolls, much of contemporary humanity's lineages would be labeled "slave" for life. The word "slave" was coined after certain Europeans, but of course, being ignorant of history is a trademark of resident trolls.
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To some's consternation, there's no question about it; E-M81 is predominantly west African in distribution.
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quote:Originally posted by The Explorer: Meanwhile... To some's consternation, there's no question about it; E-M81 is predominantly west African in distribution.
Jesus on a Christ
This forum is live evidence of how hopelessly delusional & intellectually inferior Negrids are!
E1b1b-M81 is a progressive Western branch of the Somalid race. No one denied the fact that M81 is the NW clade that evolved recently its even more distant from the E1b1a Negrids
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...whose lineages you carry, who focked your mama in every angle, to produce a hopelessly confused and intellectually stunted mongrel of a wop that you are.
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...whose lineages you carry, who focked your mama in every angle, to produce a hopelessly confused and intellectually stunted mongrel of a wop that you are.
All Humans carry the Negrid mutation. However, each race perfected itself by adding their own mutation. -In my case its M215 which happens to be absent in the Subsahran Negrid that developed his own Subsharan mutations-
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No one denied the fact that M81 is the NW clade that evolved recently its even more distant from the E1b1a Negrids
@ this hypocritical self-confused wop. You are in fact denying what was just said, by trying to rationalize this into a fake dichotomy of "NW" [Northwestern] vs. plainly "western Africa", and in fact, the post was intended for your clown crakazid-worshiping partner "e3b1c1", whom like yourself just now, tried to fictitiously chop western African into erratic geographical entities, so that he can make himself feel better by lying to himself, and saying that it isn't "western African", but "northwest" African. Meanwhile, he fails to define where North starts and ends in western Africa and presumably on what geographic quantifiers.
This is just about a real a concept as the "flat earth" theory, Snow white, Goldilocks & the bears and UFO landings.
quote: All Humans carry the Negrid mutation.
Which would make you part of this "inferior Negrid" family. In fact, if you weren't such a freaking dunce, you'd realize that ca. 99.99%, if not little over, genes that you carry are of sub-Saharan African provenance. In other words, the only way for you to strip yourself off of "Negrid" ancestry, is to stop being a human being. In your case, you might qualify; evolution hasn't progressed you enough.
quote: -In my case its M215 which happens to be absent in the Subsahran Negrid that developed his own Subsharan mutations-
Which is why you call it after sub-Saharan folks, namely the Somalis? Is it safe to say that you are too dumb and blind to see that a number posts render you a total idiot for saying that E-M215 is absent in sub-Saharan Africa, where it is supposed have originated? I think it is safe say so. Where did you learn these fairy tale bed time stories; dodona perhaps?
quote: 30,000yrs later & you are not happy with the mutations your ancestors gave you..how is that my fault
Of course it's your fault; you are too obtuse to absorb simple genetics. You confuse relating and schooling your sorry ass with your teachers being not happy with themselves. No? Well, demonstrate that the facts related to you are not so, with primary evidence, and why teaching you facts means that the purveyor of such are not happy with themselves. If I'm relating facts, and you are unable to refute them, but whine and curse like a little bitch, how does that make me the one unhappy with myself, as opposed to you; prey tell?
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All Humans carry the Negrid mutation. However, each race perfected itself by adding their own mutation. -In my case its M215 which happens to be absent in the Subsahran Negrid that developed his own Subsharan mutations-
30,000yrs later & you are not happy with the mutations your ancestors gave you..how is that my fault
^^LOL.
quote:Originally posted by The Explorer: Meanwhile... To some's consternation, there's no question about it; E-M81 is predominantly west African in distribution.
^It's obvious why this makes them fall apart. They think rather counterintuitively of Western Africa not as a reference to direction and the continent Africa but as a discrete region, a "negro reservation". Ideologically and psychologically any people with connections to Middle Passage Africans of the Diaspora are negroes and psychologically for them, negroes just can't possess anything that they value. For us to "dis-obey" their retarded logic, this upsets them, which is why they wet their panties and cry to whiteJesus.
quote:Originally posted by The Explorer:
quote:Originally posted by Freehand:
quote:Originally posted by Somalid_V13:
E1b1b & E1b1a split 30,000years ago thats the date of the last share mutation.
And? No one disputed this.
Not that it's important, but I question it. What is the primary source for this claim?
Actually, I've never gotten that date [30 kya] from a good source. I've only read it in wiki pedia, (surprise surprise it's probably the only source they've got) and it's actually referenced as the upper limit for when E1b1a derived there. The range is 30-20 kya, and my guess is E1b1a derived towards the more recent end of it.
quote:Originally posted by Somalid_V13: Negrids were transfered by Somalid Ships
The audacity ... why this kid (who seems to feign being foreign and ignorant of the modern English language and who is probably doing it to mask the fact he's some big dufus American flunky or something) thinks i'd even consider one of his "stories" ... isn't really beyond me, actually.
My guess was some "Honkid" flunky jerkin our chains and masturbating to notions of "original E3b Nordeds" to get his rocks off.
I'm not going to waste alot of time on this poster (which posts as if its brain had a stunted growth).
Raciallism is nothing but compensation.
Women compensating for small breasts get implants.
Men also compensate for lost masculinity. It's a known fact for example that hair (and other things) are a sign of males at their most viril stage in life.
Men compensating for hair loss, meekness, old age, or even miniscule "packages" (small peters),
have extra incentive to buy big guns, big houses, cars with big engines, wigs, or big dogs to show off.
People who suffer from some kind of inadequacy or perhaps are failures at life attempt are succeptable to overcompensation.
Raciallism exists in order to exagerate any biological merit that otherwise biologically arbitrary social units might have. Raciallism is basically the lie that sub-species exist in existing members of the species HSS.
^ His type of people ARE always trying to swagger-jack my type of people in the U.S.
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leave me alone man i already talled you i want to be united with you guys i dont belive in somalid race it s realy stupit idea i say i am just african or more prescice eastern african lets be united e3b1c1
quote:Originally posted by Freehand: As far North as possible of the transition line, bad news for Slavid V 13 :
Upper Egypt
Don't even get me started on Sudan.
Upper Egyptians LMFAO!
Darker skinned North Africans are still E1b1b, those are my Somalid genetic brothers. They are not Negrids!
Those North Africans are more than likely disgusted by your type of Negrids (the ones who want to pollute them lol) & I met many North Africans in NY before they admire their South European Somalid brothers & passionately despise Negrid racial types.
Stick to your own race, I don't hate Negrids until they start chucking & jiving in my backyard.
I shouldn't be telling you this, but since you are my primitive ancestor I just feel the moral obligation to help you out
Dear Negrid,
This is your race
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i like you man but stop calling e1b1b1 somalid i already talled you m81 is north west african and m34 my clade is ethiopian m78 is somalian not m81 and m34 i am proud to be ethiopian send ethiopian to the moon he will still be ethiopian the same example you gave about the somalian who was sent to the moon regards e3b1c1
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quote:Originally posted by e3b1c1: i like you man but stop calling e1b1b1 somalid i already talled you m81 is north west african and m34 my clade is ethiopian m78 is somalian not m81 and m34 i am proud to be ethiopian send ethiopian to the moon he will still be ethiopian the smae example you gave about the somalian who was sent to the moon regards e3b1c1
No man it doesn't mean you are "Somali", Just like Mongolid doesn't mean you are Mongolian!
Example do you see the highly sophisticated Japanese complaining about being called Mongolids? Although they technically didn't originate from the Mongolians! They just share a common origin. the term Mongolid was chosen because the Mongolians were thought off as the closest to the original Mongolid racial type. I can't accept the term Ethiopid because Ethiopians are culturally Semitized & have a big Arabid genetic element in addition to the Judeo-Sabaean influence that stripped them of their original Oromo culture, had there been Berberid term I would have embraced it too, because Berbers although heavily Semitized - majority are Arabic speaking ones- a Berber minority still preserves our ancestoral language (that I plan on learning along with Somali Variant, its much harder for me since I only speak IE )
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yeh but how does m34 is 13% in ethiopia its common mainly in amhara group i can accept this term since m34 my clade is common in ethiopia so i am ethiopid thats my race m34 was also found in arabia and antolia sicily and cyprus in the mediterreanean all those people are ethiopid by race since m34 is ethiopid just like m78 is somalid and m81 is berber e3b1c1
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@ this hypocritical self-confused wop. You are in fact denying what was just said, by trying to rationalize this into a fake dichotomy of "NW" [Northwestern] vs. plainly "western Africa", and in fact, the post was intended for your clown crakazid-worshiping partner "e3b1c1", whom like yourself just now, tried to fictitiously chop western African into erratic geographical entities, so that he can make himself feel better by lying to himself, and saying that it isn't "western African", but "northwest" African. Meanwhile, he fails to define where North starts and ends in western Africa and presumably on what geographic quantifiers.![[Cool]](cool.gif)
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