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Sudan president expected to face war crime charges
By JOHN HEILPRIN – 2 hours ago
UNITED NATIONS (AP) — The prosecutor of the world's first permanent war crimes tribunal will seek an arrest warrant Monday charging Sudan's president with crimes against humanity and genocide in Darfur, a move U.N. diplomats warned could bring a backlash from Sudan's government.
U.N. officials and diplomats said the chief prosecutor of the International Criminal Court would seek an indictment charging Sudanese President Omar al-Bashir with orchestrating violence in Darfur that has left hundreds of thousands of people dead.
Sudan's government reacted swiftly and angrily.
"If you indict our head of state, the symbol of our country, the symbol of our dignity, then the sky's the limit for our reactions," Sudan's U.N. Ambassador Abdalmahmood Abdalhaleem Mohamed told The Associated Press on Friday.
"We condemn it in the strongest of terms. It will have far-reaching, bad implications for the entire country."
China's U.N. Ambassador Wang Guangya, whose nation is an ally of Sudan, expressed concern that bringing charges against al-Bashir could jeopardize peace talks and put peacekeepers and humanitarian aid workers in Darfur at greater risk.
"It's one of the implications we have to consider," he said.
South Africa's U.N. Ambassador Dumisani Kumalo also cautioned that Darfur's embattled people could be left even less secure. "The debate about the balance between justice, peace and development is a very difficult one," he said.
The court, based in The Hague, Netherlands, said the prosecutor will present evidence of war crimes in Darfur to judges Monday and one or more new suspects would be named. But court officials refused to identify any of the potential new suspects.
U.N. officials and diplomats said they expect lesser charges of helping orchestrate genocide and participating in crimes against humanity to be brought against Sudanese Vice President Ali Osman Mohammed Taha. They spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue.
A spokesman for Sudan's president dismissed the investigation and said his government refuses to hand over any suspects.
State Department spokesman Sean McCormack warned the Sudanese government not to resort to violence.
"Violence perpetrated by the government against those on the ground performing humanitarian missions, performing duties on behalf of their governments ... certainly does not serve the purposes of the Sudanese government," he said.
The court's prosecutor, Luis Moreno-Ocampo of Argentina, has clearly indicated that he is aiming for the top leadership of the Sudanese government, accusing them of sponsoring the janjaweed militias who have unleashed a reign of terror on the country's Darfur region. At least 300,000 people have died since the conflict began in early 2003.
The prosecutor has described the probe as relying on investigators based in neighboring Chad and more than 100 witnesses in 18 countries.
He told the U.N. Security Council in June that "evidence shows that the commission of such crimes on such a scale, over a period of five years, and throughout Darfur, has required the sustained mobilization of the entire Sudanese state apparatus."
An indictment of al-Bashir would mark the first time the International Criminal Court has charged a sitting head of state with war crimes.
But there is precedent: Other U.N.-created international tribunals charged Serbian President Slobodan Milosevic and Liberian President Charles Taylor with war crimes while they were still in office.
Milosevic died in his cell in March 2006, shortly before the end of his genocide trail. Taylor is currently on trial in The Hague for crimes against humanity in Sierra Leone.
The charges could bring reprisals from Sudan's government, which already has made it difficult for international aid workers and U.N.-African Union peacekeepers to do their work.
"If the procedure is going the way it seems it's going to go, of course we have to be aware of the effects it would have on the ground," France's U.N. Ambassador Jean-Maurice Ripert said Friday of the court's expected action.
Threats to the peacekeepers — currently about 9,000 soldiers and police officers — were underscored this week by an ambush that killed seven and wounded 19, one of the deadliest attacks on U.N. forces in recent years.
But some court experts said the benefits outweigh the risks.
"If the prosecutor requests an arrest warrant against the president of Sudan for genocide or crimes against humanity or both, it will a huge step in limiting the impunity for horrific acts committed against innocent people in Darfur," said Richard Dicker, director of the international justice program for Human Rights Watch, a research and advocacy group.
"It would send the message that no one is above the law for these kinds of crimes including a sitting president," he said.
Sudan does not recognize the court's authority and has for months refused to arrest and hand over for trial a government minister and rebel leader charged with atrocities by Moreno-Ocampo last year.
On Friday, a spokesman for the president, Mahjoub Fadul Badry, called the court's prosecutor a "terrorist" whose investigation is based on biased testimony from rebel leaders. Badry said the government would not hand over any suspects, even rebel leaders.
"Moreno-Ocampo's report depends on verbal testimony of rebel leaders and organizations that work under a humanitarian cover but in fact are branches of the intelligence apparatuses of other countries," Badry told The Associated Press.
"In the end, we don't really care what he says."
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This is apart of the one world government plan. Hague is a kangaroo court created to support the World Police. But that is not even the issue as it is a given white institutions are created to perpetuate white supremacy/system. The real issue is if African leaders allow whites to use the UN to settle scores with those African leaders they dont like (whatever we think of Bashir and Taylor), then the whole concept of African renaissance, the AU etc will be exposed (even further) as a farce.
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I'm an African culturally and Northern Sudanese think they are Arab although physically and genetically they look African...that bastard can go to hell, I don't care...He's denying his African ancestry...**** that Arab bastard...they've been fucked once by Southern Sudanese(real Africans) and now they are fucked up by Europeans as expected since Arabs have been fucked up by Europeans for centuries...at least Africans don't have an obvious inferiority complex towards Europeans...the problem with the Arabs is that they don't realize that the only people who are respected in the Middle East are Persians...the rest are mere Jokes killing each other and kneeling in front of Bush and Tony Blair....
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1- Bashir is an African 2- Bashir is black 3- Bashir is Arab 4- Northern Sudanese are Black/African /Arabs 5- Being and Arab is not a genetic label, but a cultural/linguistic/political grouping 6- The conflict in Sudan is not about Blacks or Africans versus Blacks/Africans/Arabs. 7- Every “African” is not black and every “Black is not African 8- Your understanding of the root cause in Sudan and many other African countries/ethnicities is next to none and ludicrous 9- You are told to hate Bashir and Northern Sudanese “Arabs” without realizing it. 10- Finally, what gives you the right to place anybody into you "African" pot or "Black" pot and exclude others.
THE CONFLICT IN SUDAN IS ABOUT RESOURCES THAT, BUT OFFCOURSE, INCLUDES LAND AND IT'S WHATEVER HIDDEN TREASURES.
Arab North versus African South or Darfur is the devil's label to find for himself a route to the treasure itself, they care less about these groups and frankly they are all the same to him and in actuality rightly so.....think about it.
DIVIDE AND RULE CONCEPT STILL WORKS, and frankly not only in Africa but also elsewhere....look no further than Iraq.....Arab shia versus Arab Suni...these people can be from the same families now divided and each has to move physically to their grouping side of town/city.
Regards.
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^ True. Habari is just letting his hatred of the north (however justified) to blind him to the bigger picture.
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Definitely agree with that last paragraph you posted, but about these:
[quote]THE CONFLICT IN SUDAN IS ABOUT RESOURCES THAT, BUT OFFCOURSE, INCLUDES LAND AND IT'S WHATEVER HIDDEN TREASURES.
Arab North versus African South or Darfur is the devil's label to find for himself a route to the treasure itself, they care less about these groups and frankly they are all the same to him and in actuality rightly so.....think about it.[quote]
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^ The sad part about it is no matter how many Arab ancestors they claim, no matter how Arabic their language or dialect is, no matter how much Arab they dress, how many Arab customs they practiced, and even no matter what their position is in the Arab League, TRUE Arabs will always look down on the Sudanese Arab-wannabes!
Meanwhile those Africans who are not Arab wannabes continue to be brutalized, and violated by those who are.
This is the ultimate problem of Africa as a whole is that too many Africans have been f*cked up politically, economically, but mainly psychologically by foreigners, and the Arab-wannabe nutcases of Sudan are the ultimate example of this.
the poster AMR1 is an example of this, remember how he would rather view him and his people as "mixed" than black. He even goes so fa as to say that not only the ancient Egyptians but even the ancient Nubians were 'mixed' because no 'pure' African can create civilization unless mixed with Asiatics specifically 'Arabs'.
This makes me wonder what the Sudanese government thinks of the remains of its pre-Arab Nubian civilization. Don't be surprised if they want to destroy it because it represents their great black African heritage, the same way they destroy their African brothers and sister! Posts: 26295 | From: Atlanta, Georgia, USA | Registered: Feb 2005
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The posters above who try to the defend the "Arab" Sudanese have substantial Arab ancestry, so whatever they say I ignore...the goal of the Sudanese Arab regime is to destroy the African culture, they failed miserably in the South and they will in the West.....Arab culture can't destroy the African culture...not on the African soil...
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I hold no brief for the Sudanese government. But I can see why Dj would bypass other civil wars in Africa, particularly in the Great Lakes region, and single out Black Arabs as ultimate brutalisers. This is what I mean by moles who will swiftly attack criticism of white Jews as bigotry, hateful, anti-Semitic etc yet glibly generalise about black Arabs as a group. And of course you will never see the usual virtuous anti-hate posters jump on him for his remarks about black Arabs as "psychopaths" etc. And never mind this conflict has nothing to do with culture and self hatred but resources, the judeophiles will continue to spout that line. In laying this charge of self hating black Arabs while simultaneously defending white Jews wherever they can, they (rasolowitz)are the real projectors.Posts: 4165 | From: jamaica | Registered: May 2008
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Don't get things twisted, wut Djehuti is reffering to is anti-black/african self-hating racist 'Arabs' who are so, on African soil.
He did generalise though.
But compared to a few backwards, VERY bluntly, very ignorantly, and strongly anti-black posters, (who Dje has corrected ) I'll take my chances with tha Dj.
quote:Originally posted by Alive-(What Box): ^Actually.
Don't get things twisted, wut Djehuti is reffering to is anti-black/african self-hating racist 'Arabs' who are so, on African soil.
He did generalise though.
But compared to a few backwards, VERY bluntly, very ignorantly, and strongly anti-black posters, (who Dje has corrected ) I'll take my chances with tha Dj.
Look, which poster's a**hole you choose to hide in is not the point, fact is DJ does generalise "'Arab' Sudanese are psychopaths who deny their black African identity". My point is if he said the same about white Jews as a group you bet rasolowitz, Captain America Sundiata et al. would jump all over him. The only one twisting/justifying obvious double standards is you.
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quote:Originally posted by Djehuti: ^ The sad part about it is no matter how many Arab ancestors they claim, no matter how Arabic their language or dialect is, no matter how much Arab they dress, how many Arab customs they practiced, and even no matter what their position is in the Arab League, TRUE Arabs will always look down on the Sudanese Arab-wannabes!
Meanwhile those Africans who are not Arab wannabes continue to be brutalized, and violated by those who are.
This is the ultimate problem of Africa as a whole is that too many Africans have been f*cked up politically, economically, but mainly psychologically by foreigners, and the Arab-wannabe nutcases of Sudan are the ultimate example of this.
the poster AMR1 is an example of this, remember how he would rather view him and his people as "mixed" than black. He even goes so fa as to say that not only the ancient Egyptians but even the ancient Nubians were 'mixed' because no 'pure' African can create civilization unless mixed with Asiatics specifically 'Arabs'.
This makes me wonder what the Sudanese government thinks of the remains of its pre-Arab Nubian civilization. Don't be surprised if they want to destroy it because it represents their great black African heritage, the same way they destroy their African brothers and sister!
Your post is full of sh1t! You sound like a paternalistic liberal who's teaching the oblivious negro about his true enemy.
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quote:Originally posted by Habari: The posters above who try to the defend the "Arab" Sudanese have substantial Arab ancestry, so whatever they say I ignore...the goal of the Sudanese Arab regime is to destroy the African culture, they failed miserably in the South and they will in the West.....Arab culture can't destroy the African culture...not on the African soil...
The goal of the Sudanese Arab regime is to destroy the African culture???
No wonder the British still control the fertile lands of highland kenya, you kenyan bantus are extremely gullible you get easily impressed by glitter and flash that's why any kind of propaganda is so effective on you.
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^what's your view on the goal of the Sudanese Arab regime?
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To protect it's resources from being exploited by western interests. They have been pissed off on sudan since china got the rights to excavate the oil during the 90's.
You surely don't think that western corporate media gives a sh*t about darfurians, or do you?
Chechnya is in a much worse situation than sudan, the russians slaughter them every day like cattles, how come we never hear about the humnitarian disaster from that place? Sudans situation is so overhyped that it's become a joke.
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This boy is upset at the Northern Sudanese because they don't go along with his race fantasies. You see this jack nasty phillopeeeno thinks that the Northern Sudanese are Negroid, therefore this Asian freak thinks "How dare those niggers say they aren't black, because they definitely look black to me".
Hey Ping Pong Pepe aka (Djehuti),
When Yonis the Somali says that he is not black, you don't get upset. Is it because you don't think Somalis look "negroid", but Northern Sudanese do?
Watch people, the freak won't answer like he always does.
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What the hell do you know about Sudan? Have you ever gotten up off of your dead ass and went? Or do you sit around with your `_` self and go along with whatever your white owners tell you.
You need to take your ass somewhere and do what you filthy phillopeeeno fucks do best:
Find the most disguting ways imaginable to make a meal out of every living creature on the planet.Posts: 3085 | Registered: Jan 2008
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What's funny is that you have people dumb enough not to see the formula of how to use humanitarianism to steal African resources.
Dichotomize Africa into poor old helpless negroes and watch the nasty ass liberals fall for it. You see liberals need the "poor old negroe" to make himself feel like he is doing good in the world.
Now these liberals can't stand these "poor old helpless negroes". They believe that they are subhumans, without any kind of culture outside of being perpetually helpless, and without any kind of a history outside of being an indefinite victim since time immemorial.
Like I said before, liberals are racists as hell.
And you know it works on the stupid because the people that believe in all of these lies, believe in the "poor old helpless victimized negroe" stereotype themselves.
The conservatives can't stand them either, consevatives view these people as an opportunity for theft.
Unlike the conservatives the bastard liberals like to dichotomize Africans and African diaspora according to their sick racial hierarchy. Conservatives don't give a damn since with them you're either white/Euro or you're not.
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Notice that the people in the East fought against the government of Sudan and the people in the north have had run-ins with the Sudanese government also.
Yet you haven't or will never hear a peep about that.
You know why because its the pathologically sick white obsession with trying to use pseudoscience to define Africans.
You see the people in the East and the North violate the manifesto that "Africans that are discussed or shown on tv have to be true negroes".
They will never, ever show you the people of the East and North.
1. These people make it difficult to caricaturize Africa.
(I don't believe in the caricature, but these nasty wrinkly age 5 times faster than the rest of humanity white folks do. Whites have low self-esteem and need it as a part of their psyche to help them get through their fucked up lives)
2. They (like the rest of Africans) look part and parcel like African Americans. Therefore these people destroy the AAs are mixed lie. And everyone knows how desperate whites are to keep AAs out of their ancestry in North Africa.
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quote:Originally posted by akoben08: Look, which poster's a**hole you choose to hide in is not the point, fact is DJ does generalise "'Arab' Sudanese are psychopaths who deny their black African identity". My point is if he said the same about white Jews as a group you bet rasolowitz, Captain America Sundiata et al. would jump all over him. The only one twisting/justifying obvious double standards is you.
That's because last time I checked, white Jews are not the ones raping African women, boiling their children alive and killing them. You moron! If you look around white Jews aren't really doing much of anything other than apparenlty making YOUR life miserable in your own twisted imagination.
quote:Originally posted by Yonis2: Your post is full of sh1t! You sound like a paternalistic liberal who's teaching the oblivious negro about his true enemy.
How is my post ****?? What I said is true. I don't deny that the Sudanese government is trying to protect its resources from the West or other foreigners but for you to deny their Arab wannabe and anti-African psychosis is definitely a problem!
As for the Gargoyle, I don't respond to lunatic rantings.
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quote: That's because last time I checked, white Jews are not the ones raping African women, boiling their children alive and killing them. You moron! If you look around white Jews aren't really doing much of anything other than apparenlty making YOUR life miserable in your own twisted imagination.
They don't have to be on the ground to bear responsibility for bloodshed and civil wars, you moron! My god how infantile can you get? Who do you think sell arms to third world countries so as to continue western proxy wars for resources? Stop trying to use your simpleton-logic to justify your obvious anti-black closet hatred and double standards for your white jewish masters. Plus I have never heard you refer to Jews as psychopaths for their anti-black racism in Israel against Ethiopian Jews. Admit it Dj you got caught, again, in more of your BS and now you're trying to wiggle your slimy a** out of it.
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^ I don't address nuts who still use the old "Jewish conspiracy" that Jews control everything that goes on in the world and therefore Jews are to blame for everything that goes wrong in the world . By your line of thinking I suppose Jews were responsible for you losing your job and therefore come to this forum about EGYPT to quell your psycho obsessision about Jews.
quote:Originally posted by argyle104: You worthless filthy phillopeeeno jungle rat, you better shut your ass up before I go call a japanese person on you.
ha ha ha heeeeeeeeee
Oh my. LOL Your racial epithet sounds just as bad as whites who call blacks "jungle bunnies". I suggest you shut up before I call defax on your mother for allowing her boyfriend to rape you every night.
quote: Hey Ping Pong Pepe!,
Yonis is a Somali. He considers himself not black.
Is Yonis the Somali a pyschopath?
Are Somalis black?
If not why? Is it because you have your own personal racial classification like Carlton Coon and that Blumenbach guy?
Do you think that the Northern Sudanese are black and the Somalis are not black?
People ask yourself this question?
Why does a nasty phillopeeeno need to create his own racial classification for Africans?
You idiot since when have I ever said Somalis were NOT black?! You crazy little sh*t!! Who cares what Yonis does and doesn't consider himself as. He and his people are still black! And YOU are still a psychotic loon who constantly tries to entice me so what you can ride my d*ck?? I think not!
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^ I don't address nuts who still use the old "Jewish conspiracy" that Jews control everything that goes on in the world and therefore Jews are to blame for everything that goes wrong in the world .
I noticed you never even tried to refute what I said re white Jewish (and other whites) culpability in African proxy wars. Further proof of your own hatred (now open) for Africans whom you blame exclusively for the conflict in Sudan. I find it strange you say this, "Your racial epithet sounds just as bad as whites who call blacks "jungle bunnies"." yet over looked Ausarianstein’s lunatic racist rants.
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Man what is going on in this forum. All I see from thread to thread is the same nonsense. Attacks and hate slurs. Why can't people stop with this nonsense and be the bigger man and move on. We don't need this kind of debates on these forums. People move on. All I see is people ganging up on Djehuti and bringing up race remarks. What is any of this supposed to accomplish?
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quote:Originally posted by Yonis2: To protect it's resources from being exploited by western interests. They have been pissed off on sudan since china got the rights to excavate the oil during the 90's.
You surely don't think that western corporate media gives a sh*t about darfurians, or do you?
Wow. That's interesting. I used to think the West was sponsoring them to basically sh1t on the non-muslim Africans as a routine exercise in "operation divide & conquer Africa".
So much confusion.
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quote:Originally posted by akoben08: I noticed you never even tried to refute what I said re white Jewish (and other whites) culpability in African proxy wars. Further proof of your own hatred (now open) for Africans whom you blame exclusively for the conflict in Sudan.
Never have I claimed white Jews were innocent of or never involved in anything bad. I even know it was Portuguese Jews who first started the trans-Atlantic slave trafficking from Africa; however white Jews were no worse than white Christians in terms of their actions if fact white Christians have done much worse in world affairs than white Jews. As for the conflict in Sudan, what are you saying that it is white Jews who are committing genocide in Darfur and enslaving peoples from southern Sudan??
quote:I find it strange you say this, "Your racial epithet sounds just as bad as whites who call blacks "jungle bunnies"." yet over looked Ausarianstein’s lunatic racist rants.
Actually I and others have called out Ausarian's rants many times before, not that it helps much. I can't be held responsible for what he says no more than what you say.
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King, you waste your time. These trolls and gargoyles suffer from mental illnesses such as paranoid schizoprenia, low self-esteem, and obssession.
NOTE: Egyptsearch is NOT a mental hospital. These nuts need some serious help.
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I don't know what double standard you are really talking about. I know you have a problem with Jews but don't see how Djehuti is apart of the problem. All I notice is Argyle104 racially attacking Djeuhti from thread to thread and the slurs flying. What double standard has Djeuhti done to warrant being attacked the way he has been attacked. Really all the hate needs to stop, this forum is better then this.
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quote:Originally posted by KING: Man what is going on in this forum. All I see from thread to thread is the same nonsense. Attacks and hate slurs. Why can't people stop with this nonsense and be the bigger man and move on. We don't need this kind of debates on these forums. People move on. All I see is people ganging up on Djehuti and bringing up race remarks. What is any of this supposed to accomplish?
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IT'S CALLED "CRAB BARREL" MISBEHAVIOUR:
^I AM THE TOP CRAB, I AM BETTER THAN ALL THESE OTHER CRABS, THAT OTHER CRAB IS WRONG, I AM THE RIGHT CRAB, I MUST BRING DOWN THESE TOP VETERAN ES CRABS, I CAN'T STAND THE SUPERIOR INTELLIGENCE OF THESE CRABS, I AM AKOBEN THE BEST CRAB, HOW DARE THOSE YORUBA CRABS BEAT ME AT EVERYTHING? HOW DARE THOSE YORUBA CRABS HAVE MORE MONEY THAN ME? THAT OBAMA CRAB TALKS DOWN ON OTHER CRABS, WHAT KIND OF CRAB DOES HE THINK HE IS? I MUST USE MY CRAB-CLAWS TO BRING DOWN HIS CAMPAIGN, I MUST TALK SH1T ON ES AND IRRITATE AND ANNOY OTHER CRABS, I DON'T CARE AS LONG AS I LOOK BETTER (DELUSION NOTWITHSTANDING) THAN THESE OTHER CRABS, I REFUSE TO CO-OPERATE WITH THESE OTHER CRABS, I AM A JOBLESS CRAB, I AM A WORTHLESS CRAB...Posts: 3423 | From: the jungle - when y'all stop playing games, call me. | Registered: Jul 2006
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quote:white Christians have done much worse in world affairs than white Jews.
How? Explain.
quote:As for the conflict in Sudan, what are you saying that it is white Jews who are committing genocide in Darfur and enslaving peoples from southern Sudan??
No, as I have said before the civil war in Sudan is not about self-hatred and "Arab wannabes", but western (of which white Jews are an important financial and political element) proxy wars for resources.
With all that said, lets come back to your double standards for calling black Arabs psychopaths, but attacking as "bigotry" criticisms of white Jews. My god, dude, it's so obvious your agenda.
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Ping Pong Pepe wrote: ------------------------- As for the conflict in Sudan, what are you saying that it is white Jews who are committing genocide in Darfur and enslaving peoples from southern Sudan?? -------------------------
You're a damn lie. That garbage has been discredited, especially that slavery in south sudan lie.
Maybe you need your eyes straightened out because all you have to do is a basic internet search: sudan slavery hoax or fraud.
See people this is what I'm talking about. You have people like King and Ping Pong Pepe who have their mindless obsessions with Africans that manifests itself in the insidious form of racial hierarchy and condensation.
You see to them Africans that look a certain way are and never have been anything other than slaves.
Which reveals the true level of there sickness. Because their is documented factual evidence of North Africans and Horn Africans being sold into slavery.
Not to mention all of the documented evidence of Europeans, Japanese, Chinese, Indians, Native Americans, and West Asians being sold into slavery in the last hundred years.
These freaks need the pseudoscience "negroe" to be this helpless victimized slave. It's sick and you would think those Africans on this forum would defend themselves from such a deranged mindset.
Horus, are you listening?
This is why those freaks can't leave Africa and Africans alone. It fits right in with their freakish need to feel like a humanitarian do gooder.
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^ LMAO I am not even going to bother to explain basic facts of history past and present as to how Jews are not responsible.
I suggest you do some research of your own or something because I am not going to entertain your neurosis.
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Shouldn't you be worried about the slavery that the Japanese, Spanish, African Americans, white Americans inflicted on your people?
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^ Is your Mother still giving $5 blow jobs in alley ways in downtown Nashville, TN?
You would think she would have adjusted her rates given the downturn of the dollar.
Soon she won't be able to afford her valtrex prescriptions.
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quote:Originally posted by Djehuti: ^ LMAO I am not even going to bother to explain basic facts of history past and present as to how Jews are not responsible.
I suggest you do some research of your own or something because I am not going to entertain your neurosis.
Yep, as expected. As your arguments and double standards can't be supported you take the standard rasolowitz tactic: run as fast as you can when asked to back up your
I do not rank anyone African or otherwise. Why do you continue to accuse me of having and Hierarchy. Please post something I have said that seemed to prove you right.
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YEMAJA... OLOBIRIN LAYE O YEMAJA... ELEGUA JAKUTA... OLOBIRIN LAYE O YEMAJA...
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White Jews are of course directly responsible for the genocide in Darfur. Hell, they're also responsible for conflict in the great Lakes region and slavery in Mauritania. I'd even go out on a limb and say that they are the reason that Akoben's skin is Black and lips are thick. They are the reason why he hates himself. The same is true of Yonis however, such is more attributable to his Arab role models.
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quote:Originally posted by Habari: The posters above who try to the defend the "Arab" Sudanese have substantial Arab ancestry, so whatever they say I ignore...the goal of the Sudanese Arab regime is to destroy the African culture, they failed miserably in the South and they will in the West.....Arab culture can't destroy the African culture...not on the African soil...
The goal of the Sudanese Arab regime is to destroy the African culture???
No wonder the British still control the fertile lands of highland kenya, you kenyan bantus are extremely gullible you get easily impressed by glitter and flash that's why any kind of propaganda is so effective on you.
You're mad because Somalia doesn't exist to the rest of the world. Their isolation is likely at the root of most of your anger against Bantu-speakers, etc [though I'm not sure exactly what it is you hate more about them; their language or nose width]. The fact that Arabs weren't able to help you sustain the skills necessary to compete on a global or even continental scale [constantly being outperformed economically, if only moderately by your "Bantu" brethren]. Hence, you hate the very people who are better than you are by any social measure [logically and realistically, there's no way to spin away from that FACT]. Surely you fit right in with *many* Northern Sudanese. Given the means, you'd massacre all proud Africans in light of your extremist Arab bias and isolationist worldview, which is typical of brain washed weirdo Africans who worship Arabs that don't even respect them [ala, their reference to YOU as "abeed"].
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Oh come now, Captain America, you know the rules. If that is what you think I am saying, first you have to prove that I said they are "directly responsible" for the conflict in Darfur, then prove it is a "genocide". And please don't talk about other blacks not existing Mr Invisible Man you know the history of blacks in America. Youre just upset because your dream of blacks assimilating ("progress') into a country you love just fine has not materialised.
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