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Unfortunately one of my main interests is ancient North Africa and the near East, so I tend to cross paths with them rather often. Hence the irritation you’ll see seeping through in the replies to them. Blacks hate Mathilda's Anthropology Blog because Mathilda's Anthropology Blog tells the truth about niggers and exposes the falsehood that masquerades as "Afrocentrism". Mathilda is an English lay anthropologist who has spent the last few years collecting a large body of peer-reviewed literature on various subjects, but her area of expertise is mostly concentrated in the field of North African/Near eastern population genetic studies. Mathilda always publicizes the most recent anthropological research, even the most controversial, and is not afraid to speak her mind when the results of science are being used to advocate a political agenda. This, of course, brings her into conflict with the Afronaut "we beez jipshans" crowd; as a matter of fact, her blog is filled with the vicious and racist comments of disgruntled niggercentrics and other fanatics who can't handle the fact that Egypt is a white Mediterranean culture or that Somalis and Ethiopians are largely Caucasoid in terms of underlying genetic structure. However, Mathilda remains undeterred by this flood of ignorant criticism and has fearlessly stood by the empirical results of modern science, even citing contradictory research and pointing out methodological flaws in papers that seemingly buttress her point of view. Here's what Mathilda has to say a bout Afronuts: Afrocentrism..Anyone who takes a look at the ancient Egypt entries will note a slew of outraged comments from Afrocentrists who deem showing close ups of mummy hair and every available tomb portrait of ancient Egyptians to be racist. They can bite me. It’s not my fault the majority don’t look black. I also don’t allow their comments much as mostly; 1. Generally they don’t know their arse from their elbow but will fill pages full of made up crap and treat it as proof. 2. Think that repeating the same deliberate mistranslations and myths of Egyptian origin, will magically change those mostly light skinned mummies with Caucasian hair and Caucasian teeth and into black people with Afros. 3. Don’t bother to check the provenance of the stuff they repeat from Afrocentrist sites and so keep repeating the same BS over and over.. 4. Lie their arses off, and will even doctor scientific studies or pretend they are supported by science when they aren’t. Which I see all the time here in the comments. 5. Think spamming me with racist abuse will make me take down the images that show non-black Egyptians, or that screaming ‘racist’ or white supremacist will change the outcome of the studies done on the mummies. 6. In essence; most Afrocentrists lie, are racist as hell, and are abusive. The old saying about ‘not wrestling with a pig’ is very appropriate here, as they rarely provide any valid info, but just sling lots of mud and insults. k: About me and my blog Mathilda’s Anthropology Blog.
In short, Mathilda's Anthropology Blog is an excellent source of recent, up-to-date knowledge on human origins and also contains numerous attacks on centrism. It is highly recommended for all racially conscious people.
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Mathilda's blog, on top of attracting racist lunatics like you, is full of Eurocentric propaganda which attempts to White wash African populations in an attempt to deny the African bio-cultural roots of Ancient Egypt.
Mathilda is nothing new. We have been getting Eurocentric trolls coming here for years. They are usually White Nationalists, Medicentrists Fake Egyptians. What they all have in common is that they are racist and hate Egyptsearch because they are threatened by our research.
The difference between us and you is that we don't cite sources that contradict the argument we are making. You are a racialist who constantly cite academics who don't adhere to the race concept. You write them off as politically correct and then attempt to use their research to back up your racial theories. This is intellectual dishonesty and you will be called out every time you do this.
Distortion junkies like Mathilda have been debunked time and again on Egyptsearch by people who's reading comprehension is high enough to properly interpret these studies. Several of us have actually emailed scholars to make sure our claims about their research are consistent with what they are saying. Can people like Mathilda and Dienekes Pontikos say the same? Or are they going to continue to distort research in order to promote their political agendas?
Mathilda is more than welcome to come to Egyptsearch and defend the research on her blog but she won't because she is a coward. She knows she will get humiliated just as you and every other Eurocentric troll has.
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Desperate for attention after his beatdown on other threads, pussy-boy assumed the new user name of AFROCENTRICSMASHER and ran to his handler 'mathilda' for further instruction.
Her response to the failing efforts of her bootlicker was tart:
'Your entire existence is an experiment in Extreme Stupidity. Your incompetence is an inspiration to idiots everywhere.'
and so it is for pussy-boy...
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quote: "the genes Ethiopians and Egytpiasn share are really only the Eurasian ones."
Ethiopians share Paternal Markers A-M13, B-B60, E-M35, E-M2, E-V6, E-M78 as well as maternal markers L0,L1,L2, and L3 with Egyptians. All undoubtedly African. Got the facts? Good!
quote: the depcition of Egyptians on tomb walls is very different to black Africans
The Brown and Black figures on the wall ARE "Black Africans." Brown skinned populations are all across the globe. Brown skinned in India=Indian. Brown skinned in Africa = Black person aka Negro - Case closed
quote: Caucasoid can have a very dark skin tone. Indians and modern Egyptians for example.
"Very Dark Skin" in the African context = Black. There is NO NEED to look to India when you have "Black" Indigenous Africans RIGHT IN THE NILE VALLEY.
quote: FMJ, black Americans can have as much as 90% European ancestry in them, that's why some of these look like homies from the hood..
Huh?
Mathilda on skin color:
quote: No, they are tan/brown mainly. A minority are white, and another minority are black.
But in a different post says
quote: "Modern Egyptians are very tan to dark brown"
In any case, "Very Tan" to "Dark Brown" while in Africa = Black. All tones seen on walls can be duplicated amongst Blacks of South Africa, Rwanda or Liberia.
quote: West Africans have zero biological and cultural connections to Egypt.
Grand Cockroach Lie! The "Typical West African Y marker" usually indicative of "Bantu" ancestry was seen in the Nile Valley itself. In Upper Egypt and Lower Nubia it was sampled more than All Non-African lineages combined. Y-chromosome (IV) E-M2: (1.2%) Lower Egypt, (27.3%)Upper Egypt (39.1%)Lower Nubia/Nile Valley."
I cant even BEGAN to address the similarities with Language in other Afro Asiatic speakers that live in West Africa. Or even the NON A.A. languages such as Wolof that have significant connection to Ancient Egyptian as demonstrated by Diop. Again you FAIL
quote: Ahh, no. The overall come out at 40% Caucasoid. The E3b1 they carry has about half Eurasian ancestry to its name
E3ba1 is a Y-Chromosome marker. It is passed from father to son and does NOT RECOMBINE. How can something that does not be change be half of something else? Her statement is contrary to the ideas of "UNI" Parental genetic markers.
quote: But modern Egyptians still cluster closer to Europeans. E Y chr are African but they aren't specific to black Africans. The North Aferican population has been mainly Eurasian derived but with a lot of African Y chr for about 12k.
Cockroach cant even lie straight. I have yet to read ONE study where Modern Egyptians cluster closest to Europeans. Furthermore how can a population "mainly derive from Eurasian" but carry African Lineages? She also repeats cockroach lie #1
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One thing that seems to be ignored by these people is that not one studie ever link Ancient Egyptians to Europeans before Africans.
Too bad this person does not come on these forums to get schooled herself, but sends her Followers who scream Black but not Negro. Saying things like Africans are Black Skinned whites just shows you how desperate these people are to cling to something that they sadly have no part of.
Peace
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quote:Originally posted by Morpheus: Mathilda's blog, on top of attracting racist lunatics like you, is full of Eurocentric propaganda which attempts to White wash African populations in an attempt to deny the African bio-cultural roots of Ancient Egypt.
Mathilda is nothing new. We have been getting Eurocentric trolls coming here for years. They are usually White Nationalists, Medicentrists Fake Egyptians. What they all have in common is that they are racist and hate Egyptsearch because they are threatened by our research.
The difference between us and you is that we don't cite sources that contradict the argument we are making. You are a racialist who constantly cite academics who don't adhere to the race concept. You write them off as politically correct and then attempt to use their research to back up your racial theories. This is intellectual dishonesty and you will be called out every time you do this.
Distortion junkies like Mathilda have been debunked time and again on Egyptsearch by people who's reading comprehension is high enough to properly interpret these studies. Several of us have actually emailed scholars to make sure our claims about their research are consistent with what they are saying. Can people like Mathilda and Dienekes Pontikos say the same? Or are they going to continue to distort research in order to promote their political agendas?
Mathilda is more than welcome to come to Egyptsearch and defend the research on her blog but she won't because she is a coward. She knows she will get humiliated just as you and every other Eurocentric troll has.
Indeed. In all honesty, Egyptsearch has been debunking the white-hog-wash that Mathilda peddles LONG BEFORE the inception of her website! That idiots like yourself don't realize this is not our problem.
Don't believe us? Just take a look at all the past threads and stop polluting the board with the same ol' bullsh*t.
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Exactly. He suffered humiliating beatdowns on the scholarly evidence in other threads, so now he is trying to divert attention with a copy and paste from his handler, and recycling the same bogus nonsense under a new thread/new name. Such diversions however arent fooling anyone, nor will they mask his failures and incompetence.
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This is from Mathildas site. This isn't even considered an Egyptian. How many Egyptian mummies can be shown that look as Nubian and black as this mummy? Posts: 527 | From: usa | Registered: Apr 2009
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Why do blacks hate Mathilda's Anthropology Blog?
Because Mathilda's Blog is like Fox News...it appeals to the lower base instincts with straight out lies,twisted logic,fact checking zero,and an audience of mostly anti-Black,anti-African retards. Posts: 6546 | From: japan | Registered: Feb 2009
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quote: "the genes Ethiopians and Egytpiasn share are really only the Eurasian ones."
[b]Ethiopians share Paternal Markers A-M13, B-B60, E-M35, E-M2, E-V6, E-M78 as well as maternal markers L0,L1,L2, and L3 with Egyptians. All undoubtedly African. Got the facts? Good!
lol. Good point.
quote: the depcition of Egyptians on tomb walls is very different to black Africans
The Brown and Black figures on the wall ARE "Black Africans." Brown skinned populations are all across the globe. Brown skinned in India=Indian. Brown skinned in Africa = Black person aka Negro - Case closed
And actually, light brown to light yellow skin is part of the African range of skin coloring. The San (Bushman) peoples have yellowish light skin and are among Africa's oldest populations. Medium brown skin and narrow noses is also routine in Sub-Saharan Africa.
quote: Caucasoid can have a very dark skin tone. Indians and modern Egyptians for example.
"Very Dark Skin" in the African context = Black. There is NO NEED to look to India when you have "Black" Indigenous Africans RIGHT IN THE NILE VALLEY.
And there is no need to look for "Caucasoids" or "race mixes" to explain light or brown skin in Africa.
quote: FMJ, black Americans can have as much as 90% European ancestry in them, that's why some of these look like homies from the hood..
Huh?
lol.. more of her brilliant "scholarship"...
Mathilda on skin color:
quote: No, they are tan/brown mainly. A minority are white, and another minority are black.
But in a different post says
quote: "Modern Egyptians are very tan to dark brown"
In any case, "Very Tan" to "Dark Brown" while in Africa = Black. All tones seen on walls can be duplicated amongst Blacks of South Africa, Rwanda or Liberia.
lol.. typical.. eventually her lies begin to contradict one another.. And in any case, as already seen on ES, the definition of "black people" or "negro" includes peoples with brown skin. So the attempt to isolate black skin from brown skin is not only bogus but hypocritical as well. Few can credibly say that nut brown Italians are a "different race" from lily-white pale Swedes from northern Europe. With racists though, a different, hypocritical double standard is used when it comes to Africa..
quote: West Africans have zero biological and cultural connections to Egypt.
Grand Cockroach Lie! The "Typical West African Y marker" usually indicative of "Bantu" ancestry was seen in the Nile Valley itself. In Upper Egypt and Lower Nubia it was sampled more than All Non-African lineages combined. Y-chromosome (IV) E-M2: (1.2%) Lower Egypt, (27.3%)Upper Egypt (39.1%)Lower Nubia/Nile Valley."
I cant even BEGAN to address the similarities with Language in other Afro Asiatic speakers that live in West Africa. Or even the NON A.A. languages such as Wolof that have significant connection to Ancient Egyptian as demonstrated by Diop. Again you FAIL
Her pathetic attempt to cast the true negro model on 'West Africans' versus Egyptians is a dismal failure, as well as sheer hypocrisy. Few people go about saying that Swedes have no relationship with other Europeans such as Greeks. In Africa however, she applies a different, hypocritical standard. It falls flat in any case, because the Sahara is the main engine that peopled Egypt and the Nile Valley and contributed a massive number of cultural and biological influences. Keita, (1990, 1992, 1993, 1997, 2004), Wilkinson (1999), Wendorf (1999) all show the importance of the Sahara. The Sahara has also played a major role in the peopling of West Africa and its development. Indeed, the Sahara, was once a fertile greenbelt that stretched across one-third of the continent and shaped West African population origins as it shaped other regions. See {Archaeology and Language II: Archaeological Data and Linguistic Hypotheses, By Roger Blench, Matthew Spriggs, 1998)
So the artificial 'West African' versus 'Egyptian' claim is bogus and hypocritical. It is the Sahara that shaped both regions.
As Explorer notes on his blog:
Dynastic Egypt is the outgrowth of proto-dynastic Saharan social and Sahelian complexes, which in turn derived from sub-Saharan Africa. As for the possibility of some level of migration from the Nile Valley to western Sahara or west Africa after the Dynastic Egyptian social apparatus had already been put in place, some researchers do not rule it out, as exemplified by Rosa et al., in the course of their analysis of Guinea Bissau samples.
In terms of the peopling of west Africa, it is complex, as is the case elsewhere in Africa. I have already laid out scenarios of this peopling extensively in past postings here, both from the Y chromosome and mtDNA standpoints, along with tangible archaeological indicators. The desertification of the Sahara acted as a pump, in the sense that it pressured people therein to seek refuge in both sub-Saharan west Africa through to sub-Saharan east Africa. Preponderance of evidence suggests that like the PN2 [E1a1b/E3b] carriers, PN2-E3a/E1a1a carriers originated in the vicinity of sub-Saharan east Africa, and went onto people west Africa, where they'd join earlier Saharan dwellers. West Africa would be the point of expansion though, for E3a bearers, amongst others. So yes, like those that sprang up in the Nile Valley, west African social complexes adopted, or rather, inherited Saharan and sub-Saharan traditions; neither can be separated from those origins.
quote: Ahh, no. The overall come out at 40% Caucasoid. The E3b1 they carry has about half Eurasian ancestry to its name
E3ba1 is a Y-Chromosome marker. It is passed from father to son and does NOT RECOMBINE. How can something that does not be change be half of something else? Her statement is contrary to the ideas of "UNI" Parental genetic markers.
lol...
quote: But modern Egyptians still cluster closer to Europeans. E Y chr are African but they aren't specific to black Africans. The North Aferican population has been mainly Eurasian derived but with a lot of African Y chr for about 12k.
Cockroach cant even lie straight. I have yet to read ONE study where Modern Egyptians cluster closest to Europeans. Furthermore how can a population "mainly derive from Eurasian" but carry African Lineages? She also repeats cockroach lie #1
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lol.... and of course limb proportion studies place Egyptians, both ancient and modern closer to darker-skinned, tropically adapted peoples than white Europeans. She can't even lie straight...
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^^^Hey there simpleton, still havent found those fanatastical European or middle eastern tropically adapted populations yet huh?
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quote:Originally posted by AFROCENTRICSMASHER: This, of course, brings her into conflict with the Afronaut "we beez jipshans" crowd; as a matter of fact, her blog is filled with the vicious and racist comments of disgruntled niggercentrics....
Comments like this lead me to accuse Gyno of being a lunatic. Only a mentally disturbed person would make such a hypocritical comment. How can you deride racism and use racial slurs at the same time?
In my opinion slurs are below the standards of civility and have no place in a mature discussion. If I were running this board I would make a no racial slurs policy and immediately ban all posters who violate this rule.
Gyno if you want to be taken seriously on this board you will stop using racial slurs and insults. Continuing to do so only makes you look like a deranged jackass and supports our claim that our opponents are nothing but racists, incapable of adhering to reason because of their hateful biases.
You've lost your debates so far because you could not provide sources that support your conclusions but you destroy your credibility completely with this foul language. There may very well be Afrocentric racists on Mathilda's blog but you aren't doing a good job of representing her.
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Let's see them. Egypt was supposed to be all black but I'm not seeing Egyptian mummies that look anywhere like the one I posted. Where are all the black Egyptian mummies at?
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quote:Originally posted by Simple Girl: Can't find those black African looking Egyptian mummies yet huh?
Looking at 3000 year old dead bodies is not a reliable way to assess biological characteristics.
That's why scientists use anthropometric analysis of the remains.
It's already been concluded that the Ancient Egyptians have tropical body plans and their crania cluster with tropical Africans.
There are multiple theories about analysis of their skin, hair and teeth that I am looking into but the bulk of evidence indicates that they were tropically adapted ("Black").
You'd do well to deal with science rather than eye balling artifacts and mummies.
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Commonsense tells us that all the mummies should look typically black and sub-saharan African in appearance if Egypt was all black as you all say. Now show us the mummies that look as black and African as the one I posted.
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quote:Originally posted by Simple Girl: Can't find those black African looking Egyptian mummies yet huh?
Are you promoting your own eyeball anthropology as some kind of definitive truth?
You can tell who a person is just by looking at the mummy?
Where did you receive this magical eyeball anthropological degree?
Anyway, as told to you a million times over there are indigenous Africans who do not fit a "negroid" profile I.e broad nose and lips...
This is why the limb proportional studies cited trump all of your misconstrued understandings of bio-anthropology in Africa.
Now again, I'll ask you when will you show us these magically tropically adapted Europeans or southwest Asians?
What's taking you so long?
quote:Originally posted by Simple Girl: Commonsense tells us that all the mummies should look typically black and sub-saharan African in appearance if Egypt was all black as you all say.
Actually if you read up to date literature on the biological diversity of Africa, you wouldn't be making these old outdated ignorant statements.
Sorry simpleton but all indigenous Africans do not fit a "negroid" profile.
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Anyone of you should be able to show us a modern day Ethiopian that looks similar to this. I'm assuming that if the Ancient Egyptians cluster most closely to modern day Ethiopians and Northern Sudanese than you should find it no problem to find a modern example in those people to closely match this:
quote:Originally posted by Simple Girl: Commonsense tells us that all the mummies should look typically black and sub-saharan African in appearance if Egypt was all black as you all say. Now show us the mummies that look as black and African as the one I posted.
I don't see a mummy picture in this thread....
You're probably referring to this one:
Aside from the hair style the mummy looks just like all the Ancient Egyptian mummies (e.g. decayed beyond recognition of a living person).
You're going to have to do better than this Simply Girl. Typically Black? Haven't you learned anything from your time on Egyptsearch?
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Simple what is a nigroid profile? what is tropically adopted profile??what is super-tropically adopted profile?
Just like I said Mathilda's Blog is like Fox News...it appeals to the lower base instincts with straight out lies,twisted logic,fact checking zero,and an audience of mostly anti-Black,anti-African retards
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quote:Originally posted by Brada-Anansi: Why do blacks hate Mathilda's Anthropology Blog?
Because Mathilda's Blog is like Fox News...it appeals to the lower base instincts with straight out lies,twisted logic,fact checking zero,and an audience of mostly anti-Black,anti-African retards.
Brada-Anansi - Speaking of Fox news, how do you like their new employee, Mike Huckabee - Who is an ordained minister BTW.
I have mused before, as to whether or not religious leaders actually do believe in god, or is religion just their way to wealth and power.
In Huckabee's case there is no longer a question; for sure in 2012, the Jews will make sure that he has plenty of money to pursue the American Presidency.
But what about the lives that would certainly be lost if he were to be elected President? He has already said that he wants to get rid of them, the Muslims would have no choice but to go to war - all because of one greedy, soulless, unscrupulous, White man of god. That IS an oxymoron BTW.
By STEVEN GUTKIN, Associated Press Writer Steven Gutkin, Associated Press Writer – Tue Aug 18, 11:18 am ET
JERUSALEM – Former U.S. presidential candidate Mike Huckabee said Tuesday there should be no Palestinian state in the West Bank and endorsed Israeli settlements there, sharply disagreeing with Washington and much of the world.
A three-day tour of Israel, hosted by a far-right group of religious nationalists, is taking Huckabee to some of the most contentious hotspots in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict including a West Bank settlement outpost that even Israel's hard-line government considers illegal and an east Jerusalem housing project that the Obama administration has demanded be halted.
Israel officially refuses to freeze its settlement activity, but officials have confirmed that approval is now being withheld from fresh projects.
Huckabee's opposition to a Palestinian state puts him at odds with the accepted wisdom of both Democrats and Republicans — and to some degree even with conservative Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who has come out in favor of some form of Palestinian independence.
Speaking to a small group of foreign reporters in Jerusalem, Huckabee said the international community should consider establishing a Palestinian state some place else.
"The question is should the Palestinians have a place to call their own? Yes, I have no problem with that. Should it be in the middle of the Jewish homeland? That's what I think has to be honestly assessed as virtually unrealistic."
The politician, a Southern Baptist preacher and a two-time former governor of Arkansas, praised Israel for giving Muslims access to Jerusalem's Dome of the Rock — also once the site of the ancient Jewish temples — even though the presence of a mosque there "could be considered an affront."
"Israel is a place where they're going to allow other cultures and religions, but don't ask the Jewish people whose homeland it is to completely yield over their ability to live within the context of their country," said Huckabee.
President Barack Obama is calling for a complete freeze on Israeli settlement activity on lands the Palestinians claim for their would-be state.
Huckabee is being hosted by the Jerusalem Reclamation Project, a pro-settler group seeking to bolster the Jewish presence in traditionally Arab east Jerusalem, where Palestinians hope will serve as their future capital.
Their activities, some of them funded by American millionaire Irving Moskowitz, are aimed at blocking the division of the city as part of any future peace deal.
Huckabee said he welcomed a demonstration Monday night by anti-settlement protesters outside the Shepherd Hotel, the site of a planned housing project in east Jerusalem which the Obama administration has demanded be stopped and where the Moskowitz family hosted Huckabee for dinner.
He called the freedom to protest an "affirmation of everything that is wonderful and great about Israel and the United States."
During his tour, Huckabee will also visit the site of a planned neighborhood near Jerusalem that has also drawn U.S. ire and which Palestinians say will slice their future state in half. He will also travel to Hebron, the traditional burial place of the Biblical patriarch Abraham and the focus of particularly acute tensions between Muslims and Jews.
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quote:Originally posted by Brada-Anansi: Simple what is a nigroid profile? what is tropically adopted profile??what is super-tropically adopted profile?
Just like I said Mathilda's Blog is like Fox News...it appeals to the lower base instincts with straight out lies,twisted logic,fact checking zero,and an audience of mostly anti-Black,anti-African retards
Ah the ole what is a negroid? What is tropically adapted> Blasah blasah.......
The fantasy world that you live in is unbelievably similar to Alice in Wonderland.
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Because there is no Negroid profile...Simple just variations...within groups..King did an excellent job of recording the living faces of Africans and yet you are too Simple to take note. you cried show me mummies that look like they could be what I conisder Black...Mindover Matter did just that you cried foul foul that mummeeey is obviously get this....Sub-Saharan. like i said Mathilda's children are all retards. waay too much inbreeding.
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quote:Originally posted by Simple Girl: Anyone of you should be able to show us a modern day Ethiopian that looks similar to this. I'm assuming that if the Ancient Egyptians cluster most closely to modern day Ethiopians and Northern Sudanese than you should find it no problem to find a modern example in those people to closely match this:
How about this Ethiopian man?
We can play match maker with Egyptian busts all night but the bottomline is that anthropological studies reveal that Ancient Egyptian crania overlap with tropical Africans.
Art objects are not generally used by biological anthropologists. They are suspect as data and their interpretation highly dependent on stereotyped thinking. However, because art has often been used to comment on the physiognomies of ancient Egyptians, a few remarks are in order. A review of literature and the sculpture indicates characteristics that also can be found in the Horn of (East) Africa (see, e.g., Petrie 1939; Drake 1987; Keita 1993). Old and Middle Kingdom statuary shows a range of characteristics; many, if not most, individuals depicted in the art have variations on the narrow-nosed, narrow-faced morphology also seen in various East Africans. This East African anatomy, once seen as being the result of a mixture of different "races," is better understood as being part of the range of indigenous African variation.- Keita & BoycePosts: 647 | From: Atlanta | Registered: Jan 2009
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You have got to be one of the more deranged of Mathildas followers. You ask people to show you proof, and then run off when they ask you to answer questions.
You did the same thing in the Moor thread as well as other threads.
Your eyeball witness is pathetic and does not trump true scholarship. We gave you studies to read about the Mummies yet it seemed to of gone in one ear and out the other. With every passing post you show us why you call yourself simple. If you want to see Ethiopians and Sudanese that look like the bust you posted, just poke your air head into one of my picture threads. It's real easy to see that you are not playing with a full deck. Why do you think you can ignore questions posed to you only to come back repeating the same lies? Do you think if you repeat a lie enough times it will turn to truth?
You really have no shame. At least the other racists post studies to be refuted, You don't have any studies, all you have is your brainless eyeball witness. Just pathetic.
No peace for you
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quote:Originally posted by Brada-Anansi: Because there is no Negroid profile...Simple just variations...within groups..King did an excellent job of recording the living faces of Africans and yet you are too Simple to take note. you cried show me mummies that look like they could be what I conisder Black...Mindover Matter did just that you cried foul foul that mummeeey is obviously get this....Sub-Saharan. like i said Mathilda's children are all retards. waay too much inbreeding.
Are your words encoded to mean that you cannot show me the black African mummies I have asked for? You scream of a black African Egypt through and through but cannot produce the physical evidence I ask for. What good are you other than perpetuating a myth?
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quote:Originally posted by Simple Girl: This is from Mathildas site. This isn't even considered an Egyptian. How many Egyptian mummies can be shown that look as Nubian and black as this mummy?
When will you ever listen to us when we say Mathilda displays faulty and erroneous information?? Rather yet, when are you able to learn for yourself and able to discern accurate info on your own??
For example, Mathilda like many other Euronuts love to throw up the mummy of Maihepri above as an example of a 'Nubian', yet where is the evidence that he is one?? So far mainstream Egyptology and academia merely point out that it is probable that he is 'Nubian' based on the dark complexion of his painted image, however there is NO inscription found whatsoever in his tomb that label him as Nahasu or 'Nubian'. What we do know is that he is a powerful federal official and close associate of Thutmose IV. According to inscriptions he is a prince who educated and brought up in the royal house along side Amenhotep II. Strange that there is no reference to him being 'Nubian'. And if he happened to be one, it obviously didn't matter to the Egyptians who not only made in a state official but had him buried in the sacred burial sites of other Egyptian kings! You never hear about such privileges granted to foreigners or at least Asiatics and other so-called 'white' peoples!!
What's funny is that not only does Mathilda label Maihepri 'Nubian' but also the Lady Rai as seen below
Lady Rai was the nurse of Ahmose-Nefertari and there is also no evidence to suggest that she is 'Nubian' either, and in fact few if any Egyptologists even make that claim. Yet Mathilda does, and her excuse is that her hair like Maihepra is more on the 'afro' side!!
Queen Anhapu
Ahmose-Nefertari
^ The two royal women above Mathilda does NOT label Nubian only because their hair is loose and wavy and not as tightly coiled as Rai or even Maihepra.
Yet it is explained in this forum ad-naseum that loose or wavy textured hair is not uncommon among black Africans even those further south in Sub-Sahara!
Malian
Somalian
And definitely Mathilda does not explain why royal mummies have braided hair styles no different from blacks in Sub-Sahara.
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Mike I'll have to check it out this on my computer I don't have fox news on my cable server.. But I can't be worse than Glenn-Beck can he "yikes".
Simple you can Alice In wonderland all you like...we are not in Kansas anymore...but you can't answer the a couple of "SIMPLE" questions giving to a SIMPLE-Gurrl, but prefer to post pics of unpainted sculptures..or dried out mummies with hair due to chemicals in the soil or henna. But fail to take those very same tropical super tropical bodies into account.
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quote:Originally posted by Simple Girl: Anyone of you should be able to show us a modern day Ethiopian that looks similar to this. I'm assuming that if the Ancient Egyptians cluster most closely to modern day Ethiopians and Northern Sudanese than you should find it no problem to find a modern example in those people to closely match this:
Fine!
Ethiopian supermodel...
Liya Kebede
Notice the small nose and thin lips.
The same with Somali supermodel...
Waris Dirie
Again for the thousandth time!: Black Africans vary in facial features and not all have wide noses and large lips!!
Mathilda and her idiotic ilk love to pretend that only blacks with wide noses and large lips are pure and "true negroes" as she calls them but blacks that don't have such features are "cacasoid" or "cacasoid-mix". The FACTS are this is not the case at all as genetics proves blacks have a variety of features!
Now Simpleton Girl, since you are debunked AGAIN AS USUAL you can scurry away now! Posts: 26238 | From: Atlanta, Georgia, USA | Registered: Feb 2005
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Simple wrote:^ Is this as good as you can do?
For you yesss..because you are tooo "SIMPLE" I will try to keep you away from the high brow stuff that you won't...can't read, you might hurt yourself...that's why we try to keep it Simple. Posts: 6546 | From: japan | Registered: Feb 2009
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^LOLOLOL.....Still not good enough. You post pictures of women that are obviously at least 40% caucasian and they still don't even come close to looking as European as the bust.....LOLOLOLOL
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You have been schooled again like always. I hope the next time you turn up you come with something more then your eyeball witness. All the pics me and Djehuti showed you proves our point.
You don't need to go to europe to see Africans like that Bust. We showed you Africans with lips and noses like that Bust so really you will need to comeup with some other "HooK" then the one you are pushing now.
Also Brada is just toying with you, If he wanted to he could make you run away scared like he did the last time.
No peace for you.
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Look at the man in the Green shirt. He fulfills what you claim only europeans can fit.
Also what proof do you have that the Models that Djehuti posted are 40% caucasian? I hope you know that Somalis have at the most 15% euraisian genes. So what study did you read that states otherwise?
No peace for you
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quote:Originally posted by Simple Girl: ^ Is this as good as you can do?
Lol from an obsever's point of view seems like they're doing pretty good. You posted a pic of unpainted bust, they post pics of black africans which have similar features to the bust. You then claim said pics to be half caucasian. LOLOLOL I think if they were 40% or more caucasin they would'nt be such a deep hue of chocolate brown. LOLOLOL.
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Simple wrote:at least 40% caucasian and they still don't even come close to looking as European as the bust.....LOLOLOLOL
What language do they^the ladies above speak?...where in Europe did their ancestors came from... what was their starting point...what language did the Kemites spoke?...where did they say their ancestors came from...The Somaili do they carry significant non African DNA...mind you non African does not mean non Blacks...see DJ's numerous postings on that issue.
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Look at the man in the Green shirt. He fulfills what you claim only europeans can fit.
Also what proof do you have that the Models that Djehuti posted are 40% caucasian? I hope you know that Somalis have at the most 15% euraisian genes. So what study did you read that states otherwise?
No peace for you
I fail to see how the man in the green shirt fulfills your fantasy of having all the features that typically define that of a European. In fact if we were to look at him straight-on I would bet that his nose is wider than it appears in the picture.
And why no peace for me? I thought a good Christian would prey that peace be for everyone? Posts: 527 | From: usa | Registered: Apr 2009
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Maybe someone can show me a typical black African with a very narrow nose, thin lips, blue eyes and naturally straight strawberry blond hair. Now how is that for variation Any takers?
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How about a black African with a wide nose, thin lips. grey eyes and naturally straight red hair?
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You can post your opinion all you want, It still would be a lie. We can see how the mann in the Green Shirts nose is clear for anyone to see. Also we are talking about "ONE" bust not all of Europe. The bust is of a African with Narrow Features we showed you countless pics of Africans with narrow features, and the best you can come up with is you bet if we see his face head on his nose would be wider? What kind of dumb foolish nonsense are you spewing from your worthless opinion? Then I remember you are only a Simple person so I should not really take you that seriously. How about this Guys nose:
What are you going to whine about this time. I guess he also is 40% caucasian. bahahahahahahahhahaha
No peace for you
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quote:Originally posted by Simple Girl: ^LOLOLOL.....Still not good enough. You post pictures of women that are obviously at least 40% caucasian and they still don't even come close to looking as European as the bust.....LOLOLOLOL
I'm going to ask nicely and in good faith that you will attempt to fulfill this request.
Cite a study that defines Caucasian and provides scientific evidence that tropical Northeast Africans are 40% Caucasian. I have heard this claim over and over yet have never seen a study that makes this claim. From there we can address the science behind these conclusions.
An earlier generation of anthropologists tried to explain face form in the Horn of Africa as the result of admixture from hypothetical “wandering Caucasoids,” (Adams, 1967, 1979; MacGaffey, 1966; Seligman, 1913, 1915, 1934), but that explanation founders on the paradox of why that supposedly potent “Caucasoid” people contributed a dominant quantity of genes for nose and face form but none for skin color or limb proportions. It makes far better sense to regard the adaptively significant features seen in the Horn of Africa as solely an in situ response on the part of separate adaptive traits to the selective forces present in the hot dry tropics of eastern Africa.- Brace (1993)Posts: 647 | From: Atlanta | Registered: Jan 2009
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quote:Originally posted by MindoverMatter718: Sorry simpleton but all indigenous Africans do not fit a "negroid" profile.
Are you just beginning to see that? We have known that all along. [/QB]
This is what is actually being relayed to you simpleton, not all indigenous tropical Africans have the same set of features.
Being that East Africa is the birthplace of humankind (proven genetically) and humans have been evolving in Africa over 100,000 years before they even made it out of Africa, one should expect to see an enormous amount of biological variation within Africa, and indeed this is what is seen time and time again.
Study after study!
Yet you ignore it, and act as if your amateur eyeball anthropological assumptions and stereotypical views of how an African should look is trump over bio-anthropology.
As Ive stated before, the son (non Africans) can not contribute to the fathers (East Africa) biological diversity, this is just plain common sense.
So if you did indeed know this, then like I said you shouldn't be asking for artwork or mummies that fit a stereotypical ("Negroid") profile to prove said individuals were indeed tropical Africans.
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quote:Originally posted by Simple Girl: ^LOLOLOL.....Still not good enough. You post pictures of women that are obviously at least 40% caucasian and they still don't even come close to looking as European as the bust.....LOLOLOLOL
I'm going to ask nicely and in good faith that you will attempt to fulfill this request.
Cite a study that defines Caucasian and provides scientific evidence that tropical Northeast Africans are 40% Caucasian. I have heard this claim over and over yet have never seen a study that makes this claim. From there we can address the science behind these conclusions.
An earlier generation of anthropologists tried to explain face form in the Horn of Africa as the result of admixture from hypothetical “wandering Caucasoids,” (Adams, 1967, 1979; MacGaffey, 1966; Seligman, 1913, 1915, 1934), but that explanation founders on the paradox of why that supposedly potent “Caucasoid” people contributed a dominant quantity of genes for nose and face form but none for skin color or limb proportions. It makes far better sense to regard the adaptively significant features seen in the Horn of Africa as solely an in situ response on the part of separate adaptive traits to the selective forces present in the hot dry tropics of eastern Africa.- Brace (1993)
You all spout the super-negroid body plan and want me to define caucasian? LOLOLOLOL
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quote:Originally posted by Simple Girl: How about a black African with a wide nose, thin lips. grey eyes and naturally straight red hair?
You should have stuck with the blue eyes and strawberry blond hair argument. Even though those features dont have much to do with ancient egypt its alot more humorous. LOL cuz my mom my has thin lips a wide nose and red hair. and so does my 1st cousin. Shoot my hair is red at the tips. We must be 50% caucasian. LOLOLOL!
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Blacks hate Mathilda's Anthropology Blog because Mathilda's Anthropology Blog tells the truth about niggers and exposes the falsehood that masquerades as "Afrocentrism". Mathilda is an English lay anthropologist who has spent the last few years collecting a large body of peer-reviewed literature on various subjects, but her area of expertise is mostly concentrated in the field of North African/Near eastern population genetic studies. Mathilda always publicizes the most recent anthropological research, even the most controversial, and is not afraid to speak her mind when the results of science are being used to advocate a political agenda. This, of course, brings her into conflict with the Afronaut "we beez jipshans" crowd; as a matter of fact, her blog is filled with the vicious and racist comments of disgruntled niggercentrics and other fanatics who can't handle the fact that Egypt is a white Mediterranean culture or that Somalis and Ethiopians are largely Caucasoid in terms of underlying genetic structure. However, Mathilda remains undeterred by this flood of ignorant criticism and has fearlessly stood by the empirical results of modern science, even citing contradictory research and pointing out methodological flaws in papers that seemingly buttress her point of view. Here's what Mathilda has to say a bout Afronuts: Afrocentrism..Anyone who takes a look at the ancient Egypt entries will note a slew of outraged comments from Afrocentrists who deem showing close ups of mummy hair and every available tomb portrait of ancient Egyptians to be racist. They can bite me. It’s not my fault the majority don’t look black. I also don’t allow their comments much as mostly; 1. Generally they don’t know their arse from their elbow but will fill pages full of made up crap and treat it as proof. 2. Think that repeating the same deliberate mistranslations and myths of Egyptian origin, will magically change those mostly light skinned mummies with Caucasian hair and Caucasian teeth and into black people with Afros. 3. Don’t bother to check the provenance of the stuff they repeat from Afrocentrist sites and so keep repeating the same BS over and over.. 4. Lie their arses off, and will even doctor scientific studies or pretend they are supported by science when they aren’t. Which I see all the time here in the comments. 5. Think spamming me with racist abuse will make me take down the images that show non-black Egyptians, or that screaming ‘racist’ or white supremacist will change the outcome of the studies done on the mummies. 6. In essence; most Afrocentrists lie, are racist as hell, and are abusive. The old saying about ‘not wrestling with a pig’ is very appropriate here, as they rarely provide any valid info, but just sling lots of mud and insults. 
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