quote:Originally posted by .Charlie Bass.: Better yet, lets start our own journal forget about paying mainstream journals 2500 dollars when all the do is post distorted history on Africans anyways.
Although you will have to pay the full publication charges for your article if it is a research article or short post--if you write a letter commenting on previous published work you are usually not charged any publication cost.
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quote:Originally posted by the lioness: what they really mean is that ancient Egyptians had dark skin and no ancestry from the Levant
The ancient Egyptians didn't come from the Levant, dont be a fool.
quote: Obsession with Egypt is a way of ignoring our West African ancestors by applying "civilization" superiority concepts. At least Clyde does not spend 90% of his time on Egypt.
The site is called Egyptsearch.
Lioness complains about obsession with ancient Egypt yet shes here everyday.Posts: 4254 | From: dasein | Registered: Jun 2009
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quote:Originally posted by the lioness: actually Egypt is the not the primary topic discussed here
^ so then you and lil Mikey have something in common. OT trollers.
In the past I have put up serious posts that had excellent information on ancient Egypt. Many posts that are not racially oriented get few replies. Even though Wally is guilty of subliminals he noticed this too.
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quote:Originally posted by the lioness: Many posts that are not racially oriented get few replies.
So thats why you turn to trolling about a multiracial ancient Egypt. Attention whore.
you have to have the right bait for the right fish
also, my ideas are progressing as these discussions go on. unlike some people who have haven't updated since 1974
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quote:Originally posted by the lioness: actually Egypt is the not the primary topic discussed here
^ so then you and lil Mikey have something in common. OT trollers.
How many times must I tell you how stupid you are? Even something as simple as reading the purpose of the forum is beyond you. No wonder you can't start a thread.
Ancient Egypt Non-Egyptology related discussion. African roots, race, origin of man etc.
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^ "you have to have the right bait for the right fish"
quote:Originally posted by Just call me Jari: I told him what most here uphold and honestly he seems to be clearly mistaken.
You are clearly mistaken if you think he is making mistakes here. He knows what hes doing. He's a professional propagandist.
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quote:Originally posted by Just call me Jari: I went back and forth with Salsassin too, he was talking about how people at E.S deny Berbers as African. I told him what most here uphold and honestly he seems to be clearly mistaken.
You are clearly mistaken if you think he is making mistakes here. He knows what hes doing. He's a professional propagandist.
the problem is that Jari supports a multiracial Ancient Egypt while that is not the view that most ES. peeps uphold.
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quote:Originally posted by Just call me Jari: I went back and forth with Salsassin too, he was talking about how people at E.S deny Berbers as African. I told him what most here uphold and honestly he seems to be clearly mistaken.
You are clearly mistaken if you think he is making mistakes here. He knows what hes doing. He's a professional propagandist.
the problem is that Jari supports a multiracial Ancient Egypt while that is not the view that most ES. peeps uphold.
It might help if he could produce some sort of authentic artifact or such, that demonstrates a pre-Greek multi-racial Egypt.
Of course I know that he can't possibly do that. But it's just plain fun to tease the idiot.
TheHorsenation - Are you paying close attention?
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since the population of ancient Egypt was predominantly non-negro, you can be lucky if we even count any black participation except for the obvious 25th dynasty takeover and some lucky blacks who made it into the Pharaohs bedchambers or other services.
quote:Originally posted by TheHorsenation: since the population of ancient Egypt was predominantly non-negro, you can be lucky if we even count any black participation except for the obvious 25th dynasty takeover and some lucky blacks who made it into the Pharaohs bedchambers or other services.
What is your primary source for your views on the racial makeup of Ancient Egypt?
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everything I know and ever learned about Egypt and Africa is my primary source and points towards my conclusion above. I wont put up a list, since I already know all your counterarguments and that I cant talk sense into you. You'll get a black Pharaoh anyway soon with Will Smith on the bigscreen, playing Taharqa in "the last Pharaoh" who wasn't even the last Kushite Pharaoh, but who cares about truthful titles. The last one was of course Cleopatra VII, who's got as much right to the title as an invading Kushite clan.
Anybody knows when this film will be released?
I wonder how they will cast the population of Egypt, all black, or mixed at least.
The enemies in the flick are of course white Assyrians.
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I think your problem is that you are unable to talk sense period. You say the Ancient Egyptians were White. Based on what evidence? What is your primary source? If you can't answer that question then you have failed to make any sense on this subject.
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quote:Originally posted by Morpheus: I think your problem is that you are unable to talk sense period. You say the Ancient Egyptians were White. Based on what evidence? What is your primary source? If you can't answer that question then you have failed to make any sense on this subject.
as if there could be evidence of people being white
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TheHorsenation - You seem determined to persist in your fantasy. After months of dealing with nuts like Lioness and now you. I have learned to by-pass the normal give and take for you delusional loonies, and cut directly to the chase - The UV Index. Nobody can bullsh1t the The UV Index.
You may recall that ancient Egyptian farmers worked their fields "Barebacked".
The reason that they could do that, was because their skin was VERY DARK!
As you can see from the picture below, even the Brown skinned Black/Turk mixed-race farmers of modern Egypt, cover themselves from head-to-toe while in their fields, even though it is very HOT!
The reason for that is THIS!
In case you don't know what those numbers mean, I will tell you. They mean that a White person like yourself would DIE in short order, if you tried to work in the Egyptian Sun uncovered.
The same holds true for most of the world. White people are not natural Humans, therefore the thing that gives life to the natural world, is deadly to them.
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Your words a way too Harsh. White people are about as Natural Humans as Blacks.
I understand you get angry repeating yourself with people you think have no clue, But you don't Need to disrespect the entire White ethncity. Don't forget that majority of your work comes from white people who are after TRUTH like You.
Peace
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Water gives live to the natural world too, and most blacks cant swim and sink like a stone. That alone proofs that you cant be Egyptian, remember there's that big river over there.
What do you mean with "whites are not natural humans"? Do you believe the Anunnaki Space Invaders enhanced our DNA?
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Jari, Dr Khallid Muhammad is NOT the Black counterpart to David Duke. David Duke is racist against Black people for no plausible reason. He is just irritated and angry at the problems in the Black race that whites themselves are responsible for. No one has ever robbed David Duke's people of their name, religion, culture, or morals.
quote:Originally posted by GlobalAfrikanSupremacy: Jari, Dr Khallid Muhammad is NOT the Black counterpart to David Duke. David Duke is racist against Black people for no plausible reason. He is just irritated and angry at the problems in the Black race that whites themselves are responsible for. No one has ever robbed David Duke's people of their name, religion, culture, or morals.
Dr. Khalid Muhammed upholds the same views that David Duke does, except instead of Black Supremacy, WHITE Supremacy. They both recognize the Zionist Problem, they both were in Radical Racialist organizations. Both respond to attacks on their race.
The rest of your comment is Retoric to make Khalid Muhammed seem justified.
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quote:Originally posted by GlobalAfrikanSupremacy: Jari, Dr Khallid Muhammad is NOT the Black counterpart to David Duke. David Duke is racist against Black people for no plausible reason. He is just irritated and angry at the problems in the Black race that whites themselves are responsible for. No one has ever robbed David Duke's people of their name, religion, culture, or morals.
GlobalAfrikanSupremacy - I don't know that it's healthy to milk the victimization thing, like NOI likes to do.
First of all it's inaccurate; those African death marches, were Africans taking Africans to slave markets, so that the White customers might be able to buy their needed product.
Off the top of my head, I would say that the people who actually DID the killing, capturing, and enslaving, are more culpable than the customers who bought the slaves. So for those looking for reparations - why not try Benin.
Then there is the proposition that Whites did something different than everyone else did, that also is wrong. Blacks were invading, conquering and enslaving, long before anyone ever heard of White people. As a matter of fact, Whites deserve credit for doing it because they had to, rather than simply for Empire.
We don't know for sure what prompted the Hellenes and Latins to leave Central Asia and enter Europe, but the guess is that it was the same reason that the later Slavs, Germans and Turks did so - those illiterate Nomadic people were being chased by Huns and Mongols.
It's basic Human nature to do whatever you have to do, in order to survive, and that's what they did.
Interestingly, history keeps repeating itself, in that 5th. century B.C. Italy, is analogous to 18th. century Africa.
In both cases, Black lands were invaded by Whites who were probably numerically inferior. Yet the Blacks in both cases, were so caught-up in their local feuds - like the people in the Americas - that they could not join forces to expel the invaders until it was too late. (The Etruscans in Italy never really joined forces, and the Celts/Gauls in France did not do so until about 50 B.C. - which was way too late). BTW - conservatively Caesar is estimated to have killed one third of the Black population of Gaul, and cut off the hands of another 40,000. Seems to me that the stupidity of the invaded, makes them more culpable than the invaders.
Then there is the fall of the ancient Black civilizations outside of Europe. Whites didn't cause that, the Persians did!
It was the Persians who destroyed the Elamites, Anatolians, Assyrians, Babylonians and Egyptians - leaving those lands open to White invasion.
And it was the Persians, who by their try and failure to conquer White Greece, precipitated the European Whites ganging-up and invading Persia. Once they took Persia, all that Persia had conquered became theirs. So who's to blame, why those ass-hole incompetent Persians!
In the Americas, Whites also acted logically - though brutally. Medieval Europe was a simmering cesspool of ignorant Whites who didn't even know about sanitation - how can they be blamed for wanting to leave?
The problem was the climate!
This is what they came from:
And initially there was no problem with them working the land in the northeast.
But once the European settlers started expanding southward, they ran into BIG problems!
Mississippi
There is just no way that a White man can safely work his stolen fields in that type of climate - they HAD to bring in Blacks in the South!
So that today in America, even though they are well covered in the fields, and ride around in air conditioned tractors. STILL, over one million White Americans come down with Skin Cancer every year!
The Mexican immigration problem isn't really about Mexicans sneaking across the border - that could be stopped if they wanted to. But if they stopped it, who in America would, who in America could, work their fields? (Most Mexicans are used as farm laborers).
So you see Supremacy, the White man has acted like everybody else, in all but one case: He created the institution of "Racism" to maintain cohesion among members of his subspecies. That had never been done before, and will in all likelihood, lead to his demise - it can work both ways!
Back to the NOI, Black backwardness is a global problem, which can only be solved by Blacks acting intelligently, and in their own self-interest. Why are they picking on the Khazar Jews? They are a global problem for Whites and have little to do with the global plight of Blacks. Me thinks they have been brainwashed by the Sand Niggers - Somebody needs to tell them that the Sand Nigger is not the Black mans friend.Posts: 22721 | Registered: Oct 2005
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Geez, people call me a Nazi and racist cause I like Dr. Duke, but in reality I am neither a Nazi nor do I disrespect any race, and I like 'Sandniggers', they are cool people.
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quote:Originally posted by GlobalAfrikanSupremacy: Jari, Dr Khallid Muhammad is NOT the Black counterpart to David Duke. David Duke is racist against Black people for no plausible reason. He is just irritated and angry at the problems in the Black race that whites themselves are responsible for. No one has ever robbed David Duke's people of their name, religion, culture, or morals.
GlobalAfrikanSupremacy - I don't know that it's healthy to milk the victimization thing, like NOI likes to do.
First of all it's inaccurate; those African death marches, were Africans taking Africans to slave markets, so that the White customers might be able to buy their needed product.
Off the top of my head, I would say that the people who actually DID the killing, capturing, and enslaving, are more culpable than the customers who bought the slaves. So for those looking for reparations - why not try Benin.
Then there is the proposition that Whites did something different than everyone else did, that also is wrong. Blacks were invading, conquering and enslaving, long before anyone ever heard of White people. As a matter of fact, Whites deserve credit for doing it because they had to, rather than simply for Empire.
We don't know for sure what prompted the Hellenes and Latins to leave Central Asia and enter Europe, but the guess is that it was the same reason that the later Slavs, Germans and Turks did so - those illiterate Nomadic people were being chased by Huns and Mongols.
It's basic Human nature to do whatever you have to do, in order to survive, and that's what they did.
Interestingly, history keeps repeating itself, in that 5th. century B.C. Italy, is analogous to 18th. century Africa.
In both cases, Black lands were invaded by Whites who were probably numerically inferior. Yet the Blacks in both cases, were so caught-up in their local feuds - like the people in the Americas - that they could not join forces to expel the invaders until it was too late. (The Etruscans in Italy never really joined forces, and the Celts/Gauls in France did not do so until about 50 B.C. - which was way too late). BTW - conservatively Caesar is estimated to have killed one third of the Black population of Gaul, and cut off the hands of another 40,000. Seems to me that the stupidity of the invaded, makes them more culpable than the invaders.
Then there is the fall of the ancient Black civilizations outside of Europe. Whites didn't cause that, the Persians did!
It was the Persians who destroyed the Elamites, Anatolians, Assyrians, Babylonians and Egyptians - leaving those lands open to White invasion.
And it was the Persians, who by their try and failure to conquer White Greece, precipitated the European Whites ganging-up and invading Persia. Once they took Persia, all that Persia had conquered became theirs. So who's to blame, why those ass-hole incompetent Persians!
In the Americas, Whites also acted logically - though brutally. Medieval Europe was a simmering cesspool of ignorant Whites who didn't even know about sanitation - how can they be blamed for wanting to leave?
The problem was the climate!
This is what they came from:
And initially there was no problem with them working the land in the northeast.
But once the European settlers started expanding southward, they ran into BIG problems!
Mississippi
There is just no way that a White man can safely work his stolen fields in that type of climate - they HAD to bring in Blacks in the South!
So that today in America, even though they are well covered in the fields, and ride around in air conditioned tractors. STILL, over one million White Americans come down with Skin Cancer every year!
The Mexican immigration problem isn't really about Mexicans sneaking across the border - that could be stopped if they wanted to. But if they stopped it, who in America would, who in America could, work their fields? (Most Mexicans are used as farm laborers).
So you see Supremacy, the White man has acted like everybody else, in all but one case: He created the institution of "Racism" to maintain cohesion among members of his subspecies. That had never been done before, and will in all likelihood, lead to his demise - it can work both ways!
Back to the NOI, Black backwardness is a global problem, which can only be solved by Blacks acting intelligently, and in their own self-interest. Why are they picking on the Khazar Jews? They are a global problem for Whites and have little to do with the global plight of Blacks. Me thinks they have been brainwashed by the Sand Niggers - Somebody needs to tell them that the Sand Nigger is not the Black mans friend.
Damn Mike I was with you in the begining then you resorted to your typical Psudoscholarship..
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^I know that I"ll regret answering you, but is there a point to your cryptic "same color my friend".
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the point is that there's a picture of a Minoan barebacked of the same color of an Egyptian as per these paintings. His features and non-sloping forehead appear to be similar to a Greek type.
If you take a Northern European they might have problems in the southern sun. But many Europeans how would burn in a sudden sun exposure will tan if they have gradual exposure. In addition Southern Europeans, Mediterraneans are somewhat darker to begin with.
As per the Southern United States many European settlers were of English, German and Dutch stock not many Mediterraneans. Some would burn easily others could tan. The answer to the problem was simple, wear clothing, which they did. They had hats and scarves to prevent "redneck". Your theory is basically silly although it may have a small element of truth to it. You have to look at farmers today. There are many European descended American farmers out there right now all day in the Southern sun. They have clothing on to protect them. The people that do the picking these days are primarily Mexican because they can not pay them much. The primary reason for the enslavement of Africans was that it was free labor. All they had to do is supply food and shelter. It was economic exploitation similarly motivated to the indentured servitude of Europeans by other Europeans. Prior to emancipation sharecropping was limited to poor landless "whites", usually working marginal lands for absentee landlords. Mike do more research before you start freestyling. At the same time it was probably easier for the Africans of in the hot sun, not having to worry about sunburn. You act like you've discovered the Loch Ness monster when it's stating the obvious but erasing the economic motive. Because of these paintings is it proper to assume that ancient Egyptians were out in the fields all day bare back farming? Maybe. Were the UV levels the same then as they are today? I don't know. The people depicted in such paintings are various shades of brown and when they show people who look like they are farming they are not even the much darker black color they use to depict Nubians. They are that reddish brown color like the picture of the Minoan fisherman.
quote:Originally posted by Confirming Truth: He laughs at you Afronuts! distances himself from you wackos and your ancient "Black" Egypt claim!; puts to rest the question of AEian phoenotype. RFLOL!!
Damn! He also clears up Diops' position. He said Diops was WRONG! (LOL)!
There was a published paper recently about a brain related genetic mutation that may have occurred in North Africa or the Near East. Keita mentions it briefly in this interview.
If anyone can post a link to the study this will be appreciated. Just curious if that study has been validated or not and possibly explains cognition between groups who have the mutation or not.
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