quote:Originally posted by TheHorsenation: tell me which Nubians in my video you are bloody talking about, and I will debunk you.
4:12 - Shows Nubians in different range of skin tones similar to the AEgyptians.
4:17 - Shows Nubians can be phenotypical portrayed like the AEgyptians.
For example compare and contrast Nubians @ 4:17 to Ramses III physiognomy:
Hardly a difference in physiognomy proving they were just another black African people.
4:44 and 4:57 - Shows Nubians and Egyptians having the same skin tone.
quote:Show me the egyptian family figurines that look like Negros.(and dont forget to give the source to verify it)
As for the AEgyptian family figurines examples:
•Nebsen and Nebet-ta •Raherka and Merseankh •Memi and Sabu •Demedji and Hannutsen •Ptahkhenuwy and his wife •Bak and Taheri (Stela Bak with wife Taheri) •Menkaure and wife.
And countless more.
Unfortunately, you would have to search for them yourself via Google. I don't have the time to post each and everyone of these images, sorry.
quote:Also, you are mixing something up. There is no need to have an argument for a non-black Egypt, because that is what most archeologists see as a fact. Black-Egypt is the fringe of feel-good group therapists.
If there is no need for such an argument then what is your objective in joining this thread and posting your video?
Why do you and your ilk continue to engage in discourse with those who support a black Egypt?
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quote:Originally posted by TheHorsenation: ...I dont know where the Egyptians came from, but I doubt they are Nubians or other Black people. But I think they racially mixed with Nubians.
Personally I believe they are survivors of the big flood, or some other major catastrophy on the planet. Maybe the first big civilizations were created by survivors of Atlantis, Lemuria, or whatever the former high culture was.
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quote:Originally posted by the lioness: ...Also notice how the above Khafra sculpture is a bit lame, the distance from the eyes to the top of the head is unnaturally short.
Not for an African, Snaky, remembr we're the ones with the sloped back foreheads. Posts: 4226 | From: New Jersey, USA | Registered: Mar 2007
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quote:Originally posted by the lioness: ...Also notice how the above Khafra sculpture is a bit lame, the distance from the eyes to the top of the head is unnaturally short.
Not for an African, Snaky, remembr we're the ones with the sloped back foreheads.
quote:Originally posted by the lioness: ...Also notice how the above Khafra sculpture is a bit lame, the distance from the eyes to the top of the head is unnaturally short.
Not for an African, Snaky, remembr we're the ones with the sloped back foreheads.
you mean like this:
No Snaky - that doesn't look like Khafra to me. That's one good-looking brother though. Like his beard too - sharp no. Someone should really start making those again, if its not real.
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Horsenation racecentric terms and definitions he himself cannot define
"some nubians have the same brown color but they always have negro faces, not egyptian" What the hell is a negro face and an Egyptian face? If by Kneegroows you mean Africans with broad features then what happens when you have the above? same family of the 4th dynasty royals.. Negroes? Non Negroids or Negroes? blacks or just plain ol Africans? come on Horse, give us a definition that makes sense.
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There is no such thing as African facial features However Diop said:
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Narmer (or Menes), typical Negro, first Pharaoh of Egypt, who unified Upper and Lower Egypt for the first time. He is assuredly neither Aryan, Indo European, nor Semitic, but unquestionably Black -Cheikh Anta Diop, The African Origin of Civilization p 13, fig.5
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And "white" is a "vague unscientific term" too, and that still leaves us with the undeniable fact that people affiliated with what modern man now calls black or sub-Saharan Africans moved from the Sahara and Nubian area and travelled northward along the Nile into Egypt thousands of years ago bringing with them the elements of Pharaonic civilization!
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quote:Originally posted by argyle104: How many of you loons have jobs or lives? This is pathetic and psychotic.
Is this all that you loons (both sides) are about?
It certainly looks that way argyle. Your here just as much as anybody else you should know.LOL!
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quote:Originally posted by dana marniche: Don't forget the UFOs.
You tell me The Afronauts and 2012 will erase the white devil-race is usually black domain, but I don't count out anything.
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quote:Originally posted by Siptah: 4:12 - Shows Nubians in different range of skin tones similar to the AEgyptians.
No, this only shows that the artist did not want to turn the whole scene into an indistinguishable black mess.
quote:Originally posted by Siptah: 4:17 - Shows Nubians can be phenotypical portrayed like the AEgyptians.
Not at all. The nubian servants looks TOTALLY different than any Egyptian. The Nubian Royal LADIES are still DARKER THAN A MALE EGPYTIAN SERVANT, and dont look at all like Egyptian Royal Ladies who are regularly painted in white/yellow/red. And most probably were painted to look prettier for Egyptian taste than typical Nubians because of their Rank. You can also tell that this picture does not reflect reality since the Egyptian servant is painted as a little dwarf.
quote:Originally posted by Siptah: 4:44 and 4:57 - Shows Nubians and Egyptians having the same skin tone.
It's not the same skintone. Pharaohs face is lighter, and his feet are lighter even more. How many Negros with a healthy tan do you know?
quote:Originally posted by Siptah: As for the AEgyptian family figurines examples: •Nebsen and Nebet-ta •Raherka and Merseankh •Memi and Sabu •Demedji and Hannutsen •Ptahkhenuwy and his wife •Bak and Taheri (Stela Bak with wife Taheri) •Menkaure and wife. And countless more.
Those are not simple family figurines, but employees of the court or royalty. Besides 6 out of those 7 dont look negro at all but caucasian/asiatic. Raherka and Merseankh.
I dont know why you mention Menkaure as proof for "Black Egypt" - This guy and his wife look like SWEDES!
quote:Originally posted by Siptah: Why do you and your ilk continue to engage in discourse with those who support a black Egypt?
Because black Egypt is a lie to raise self-esteem of black people. Personally I wouldn't mind if Afrocentrists only claimed they have a part in Egyptian culture, because they sure have, but unfortunately these black racists try to make the whole of Egyptian history into a black-only affair, which simply is not supported by Archeology and other Sciences. Also I received death threats from white-hating Afrocentrics about this, and this only encourages me to make more videos.
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4.a white guy who claims egypt was a white civilization in africa just by the border of the kushites lol whos the one with self esteem issues.Why are you so interested in the race of the A:E:? face it this civilization which is the grand daddy of european civilization was made by blacks, sorry if white people had nothing to compare and were influenced by theses blacks. you dont accept science, you dont accept ancient writings by europeans who were there. you dont accept paintings , bust of pharoahs, you are like a lot of deluded eurocentrics which borders on mental illness.
5.nobody said it was all black just as the united states aint all white, but the ORIGINAL EGYPTIANS looked no different then people living south of them, if you look at predynastic it was the southerners that brought the culture the brilliance that made us like the A:E . after a while it became more multicultural.
6. ive answered all your questions why do you keep on avoiding this one.
1.northern european-blonde or red hair,pale skin,blue or green eyes,
the europeans are more apart from each other in looks then the egyptians and nubians, right???
but they are both classed a european and WHITE so
QUESTION:
why cant we class the egyptians as african and BLACK??
ANSWER:..
7.are you one of these europeans that want to keep ancient europe white so you want ancient egyptians to be "caucasian" the east africans as "caucasians" the subsaharan dna origin of Haplogroup E1b1b to be from asia to save your purity of greeks
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quote:Originally posted by dana marniche: [QB] And "white" is a "vague unscientific term"
yes, also thank you
LOL bitch purposely avoided this one, "would you call West Africans like the Asante black?"Posts: 4254 | From: dasein | Registered: Jun 2009
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@viola you're already banned on youtube for misbehaviour and you don't deserve to ask me questions much less expect an answer. I don't deal with Kindergarten niveau people.
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im not sure why you banned me, you were making stuff up saying i sent you illuminati black panther stuff,which i blatantly didnt and you havent shown me 1 iota of proof for your claims.
you again fail to answer the question why wont you answer it. lol.
1.northern european-blonde or red hair,pale skin,blue or green eyes,
1976slater (2 days ago) Remove | Unblock User | Spam Marked as spam look at your topic you started and answer violas questions 1976slater
1976slater (2 days ago) Remove | Unblock User | Spam Marked as spam left u a message on egyptsearch
and here is the crappy mail you sent me:
Very clear video, one of the clearest videos I've seen so far showing the artwork left by the ancient people of Kemet. Beautiful Auburn complexion King Tut Had. Thank You
Now Its my turn to return the favor and give you the shock of your life perhaps.
I'm not a child so I don't play games, if it wasn't worth your time checking out I wouldn't give you the invitation to see them. According to credible forensic anthropologist, the subject who is an American has the exact features of our beloved King Tut, 99.999 %percent. They already have been leaked to Zahi Hawaas and Elizabeth Daynes, they saw the photos and said: "how could this be, he's an American?"
Would you like to see them? If so out of friendship I'll send you just two samples. When we compared the photos to the reconstruction my sister nearly fainted, it was breathtaking.
You must keep them to yourself or else I can get in big trouble, a Pc genius hacked them from a secret society.
The shock of your life awaits you, and I will not charge you a cent. I'm a Truth Seeker.
since you begged for my email, and I refuse, I assume you wanted to mailbomb me or provide me with a nice load of spam.
here's a nice tip for you viola: Never expect people to be dumber than yourself.
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I dont know why you mention Menkaure as proof for "Black Egypt" - This guy and his wife look like SWEDES! LOL well Horse that most definitely wouldn't do much for your claims of phenotypical races now would it.since Menkaure is an African of the same 4th dyn.family as this guy Shepseskaf the last king of the Fourth dynasty. So if as you say they looks like Swedes then Swedes to use your term are "Negroid"/Negroes.. now on this you are in agreement with some of the brothers on here who will tell you just that... Posts: 6546 | From: japan | Registered: Feb 2009
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since Khafra and Menkaura look like northern European, you can conclude that Shepsekaf just had too much pork and beer. Typical Viking with too much partying.
quote:No, this only shows that the artist did not want to turn the whole scene into an indistinguishable black mess.
Indistinguishable black mess?
Then why do you suppose the artists couldn't use a lighter dark brown color to distinguish rather than reddish brown??
quote:"The nubian servants looks TOTALLY different than any Egyptian. The Nubian Royal LADIES are still DARKER THAN A MALE EGPYTIAN SERVANT"
Your reproduction i believe is quite inaccurate in terms of color, please use authentic depiction from the Tomb of Huy:
Going by the authentic tomb depiction the person you call Egyptian is painted similar to some others in skin color.
Do you know if the person you assume to be a male Egyptian servant is Egyptian and not Nubian? I apologize if i am uneducated on the matter but would you mind verifying with a source or reference?
quote:"And most probably were painted to look prettier for Egyptian taste than typical Nubians because of their Rank."
Most probably doesn't equal fact. Unless you can produce some sort of reference verifying this fact then your opinion being that "women were painted lighter to look prettier" remains as your opinion.
quote:"It's not the same skintone. Pharaohs face is lighter, and his feet are lighter even more. How many Negros with a healthy tan do you know?"
Whether they were not exactly the same they are still portrayed as similar in terms of physiognomy, especially when compared and contrasted to those lighter skinned Syrians.
quote:How many Negros with a healthy tan do you know?
And where is your source for the AEgyptians acquiring dark skin through tanning?
How does this refute what i previously stated about Nubians being just another black African people like the AEgyptians?
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quote:Those are not simple family figurines, but employees of the court or royalty. Besides 6 out of those 7 dont look negro at all but caucasian/asiatic.
Nebsen and Nebet-ta:
Raherka and Merseankh:
Memi and Sabu:
Demedji and Hannutsen:
Ptahkhenuwy and his wife:
Bak and Taheri (Stela Bak with wife Taheri):
quote:I dont know why you mention Menkaure as proof for "Black Egypt" - This guy and his wife look like SWEDES!
Menkaure and wife:
Then you must be on something or you're wearing Euro googles for you to actually say their physiognomies look more Caucasian or Swedes than black African. It's bad enough that you compared Yul Brynner to Khafre and stated Ramesses II, Menkaura look very European.
quote:Because black Egypt is a lie to raise self-esteem of black people. Personally I wouldn't mind if Afrocentrists only claimed they have a part in Egyptian culture, because they sure have, but unfortunately these black racists try to make the whole of Egyptian history into a black-only affair, which simply is not supported by Archeology and other Sciences. Also I received death threats from white-hating Afrocentrics about this, and this only encourages me to make more videos.
It's not a lie and one can even say technically AEgyptian culture is black African culture from hair fashion to art decoration, objects, mannerisms, names, language, other practices etc.
Of course if you and your dumb Eurocentric ilk knew more about African culture you wouldn't contend on such ignorance insisting "blacks are trying to steal AEgyptian culture or blacks only have a part in AEgyptian culture" (Referring to your previous posts) when the AEgyptian culture itself was African and not anything other but African.
As for the death threats, yes that is wrong and those blacks should engage in civil discourse. As for scientific and anthropological evidence, there is already enough evidence for AEgypt being a black African civilization, people just choose to ignore due to religion.
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^ Siptah, you are wasting your time. TheHorseshitnation is in denial as all trolls are. She believes in racial notions like "negro" and "caucasian" which don't really exist and she will deny Egypt's black identity even if Tut or Tiye in the pics above came to life and slapped her silly.
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original egyptian family after moving back to Sweden Evolution of the egyptian boats into Viking ships proofs that Egyptians were Europeans, and turned into Vikings after the decline in Egypt.Posts: 223 | From: Germania | Registered: Sep 2010
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quote:Originally posted by viola75: im not sure why you banned me, you were making stuff up saying i sent you illuminati black panther stuff,which i blatantly didnt and you havent shown me 1 iota of proof for your claims.
bad luck viola, you already admitted that 1976slater is your youtube account. why do you keep on lying? do I need to post a video of my account with your silly mails? lol
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yes post the email accounts i sent you which is two.
yes my youtube name is slater but i never sent you emails about black panther illuminati , the only email i sent you is to come here on egyptsearch to ask you questions i cant asked on youtube because you blocked me because you cant answer this question.
1.northern european-blonde or red hair,pale skin,blue or green eyes,
Then you must be on something or you're wearing Euro googles for you to actually say their physiognomies look more Caucasian or Swedes than black African.
please post some photos of real people you think resemble this sculpture, thank you
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Then you must be on something or you're wearing Euro googles for you to actually say their physiognomies look more Caucasian or Swedes than black African.
please post some photos of real people you think resemble this sculpture, thank you
And the reason i should spend my time searching for photos of real people resembling this sculpture instead of you is?
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quote:Originally posted by Siptah: And the reason i should spend my time searching for photos of real people resembling this sculpture instead of you is?
cause you'll only find pretty swedish people who fit the statues and we like to embarrass you
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by TheHorsenation: [QB] [QUOTE] - This guy and his wife look like SWEDES!
[QUOTE] But, fortunately everyone knows the ancestors of Swedes didn't originate along the Nile in Nubia 6,000 years ago as did the ancestors of these people. And they definitely don't have the phenotype and bodies of your so called African Negro as do these black African royals.
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Then you must be on something or you're wearing Euro googles for you to actually say their physiognomies look more Caucasian or Swedes than black African.
please post some photos of real people you think resemble this sculpture, thank you
And the reason i should spend my time searching for photos of real people resembling this sculpture instead of you is?
Thank you.
Menkaure
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can somebody please post some photos of real people whose faces resemble the above, thank you
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can somebody please post some photos of real people whose faces resemble the above, thank you
For what purpose Snaky. That wouldn't make them any less or more than what they were Nilotic Africans with African parents and ancestors of African origin - and not Swedes!
People should be tired of cowtowing to a snake anyway.
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Modern non-pagan Whites who are not Romans, Celts, and Egyptians, even Chinese, get to identify with dead ancient civilizations and heroes all the time, putting themselves in the shoes of people they can’t possible be but blacks recognizing themselves in ancient Egyptian art and sculpture, Nubian or mixed blacks, are some how making stuff up to feel good—though these movies that Eurocentrics love to watch are not often factual historically Eurocentrics still get to imagine they’re the Kings and Queens of England, say, knights in shinning armor, and they can’t even ride a horse, and never the serfs most of the time, except once in a while, so as usual with racism, it has a awful double standard. A modern Greek is no more an ancient Greek than a white American today is a Southern slave holder, different realities—I don’t think afrocentrism should try to make an identity out of it, because it is imitating Eurocentric racism, rather I wish they would keep promoting and documenting the truth white racism tried to cover up and destroy and demean.
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In one sense afrocentrism made it easy for racists to disregard the evidence by mirroring Eurocentrism with a counter centrism when really this should’ve been the playing ground of honest scholars white and black who had no ax to grind; although I sympathize with the good intentions of afrocentrics I wish this had been left to pure historians to document and study but blacks without help from the mainstream, confronting racist denials of obvious facts, truths, had no choice but to circle the wagons as it were and so here we are—instead of the evidence being appreciated and studied and critiqued blacks are laughed at and demeaned by whites who should show some humility and respect for a people so unjustly treated just because they were apprantly in some places more primitive or so it seemed when Europeans encountered them—Egypt is not perfect, nor any other ancient civilization…but civilizations do appeal to people’s identities—it's all over popular culture, in one sense afrocentrism is the offspring of white denial of black humanity. The Eurocentric obsessions with Roman and other supposedly “white” civilizations of the past is real, visible everywhere on television as I said, the presumption of white greatness is everywhere. So what blacks need to do is do a really big budget movie about this and you can fund it via the internet--that is of course if nobody at the top steals the money. If the money could be kept for production it could be done. And the movie doesn't have to be made for whites but it should show the humanity of the ancient black Egyptains rather than reflect Eurocentric cliches. It be fantasies, mythological, realistic, a wholes series of films done artistically rather purely as commerical crap--but I'm probably in the minority when it comes to art filmes for blacks. I hate stereotypes and blacks can and do stereotype themselves in films but that's for some other forum.
Well, blinders or not, Ancient Egypt at it's very beginning wasn't white as far as I can see. The visual evidence is a good starting point for those willing to lift the blinders off.
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LOL I have no interest in correcting this idiot I love his philosophy and viewpoint on who the Egyptians were. I usually love to leave the racist with their White Egypt Fantasy, they have a way of projecting stupidity without even knowing it.
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