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Paper and board can't self define but people can.
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quote:
Originally posted by AswaniAswad:
This is The Biggest Lie Ever Emperor Haile Selassie never made such a quote ever.

First off how do come to a King and ask him is he purple or is he yellow or green come on u dont think Atse Haile Selassie knew what they were up too.

If u even knew anything about ethiopia or amharic u would of never said this garbage Mau u must be a al-bey.

Haile Selassie was ask is he negro which at that time really just meant a slave a nobody not even human.

His Majesty responded in Amharic I am not Negro i am Equal to Whites not I am White in Amharic he Said I am Equal to Whites.

I have already repeated this IronLion u remember that thread with that eritrean who was bashing ethiopia, and his majesty

Sure my brother. This boi Mau just copied and posted a topic that was already thrashed to death. A troll is one who posts so many inflammatory and useless subjects just to annoy fellow participants.

But we know what that Turki is up to. He is angry we are the owners of the blessed land of Africa.

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quote:
Originally posted by Mau:

If you're going to select a Hero, shouldn't he/she be at least, someone from your own tribe and cares about his people?

Why dont you tell that to all those white nazi's who follow there jewish leader hitler
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quote:
Originally posted by Just call me Jari:

I don't see you filthy ass saying **** about Africans upholding some Dirt poor Savage Arab, Muhammed Ibn Abdulla(Piss be Upon that bastard)....and you try to question our respect for our own people.

Halle Salasse was not perfect nor was Garvey. But I have and will have more respect for Salasse over some peice of **** Arab.

You filthy Gorilla looking Negroid from the deepest jungles of West Africa, you should be banned.
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quote:
Originally posted by Watu:
You filthy Gorilla looking Negroid from the deepest jungles of West Africa, you should be banned.

You, my lil pink freak-albino-troglodyte ape, are way off base.

You are too new to this forum, so you should just shut your dirty psoraisis rotted arse before it gets kicked outta here for the stink of it...

Fiyah fi your bloo-wool "wahabir" aaaasss! [Mad]

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If you haven’t noticed the Gorilla *cough* ‘’Just call me Jari’’ insulted the beloved prophet Muhammad (PBUH).

You Congoids ruin this website.

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^ Enough with the "Horner/Aethiopid" vs. "True Negro/Congoid" bullsh*t already. It's obvious someone is another brainwashed victim of Euro-colonial thought. [Roll Eyes]

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If the term were meaningless, you wouldn't be making these characterizations...

"Indians are black, just as Black Africans and Black Americans, there you failed to define Black, and therefore, it is useless."

You are able to make that statement because you know the meaning of "black".

Indeed. Ma'Ass knows it and is desperate to find a way around it, but he can't. Black Indians are indigenous to India and overall Eurasia. Egyptians were not indigenous Eurasians but indigenous AFRICANS. Therefore their 'blackness' should be no surprise.
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^

The kid is back with his nonsense again!

There is no way around it, The House Negros have already lost and been badly Defeated!

Africa Is Your White Master's Creation.

Black Is Your White Master's Creation.

You, "House Negros" Are Followers and Will Defend Your White Masters, Regardless Of The Facts!

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quote:
Originally posted by AswaniAswad:
Emperor Haile Selassie Own Words sounds more beautiful in Amharic

.I MUST SAY THAT BLACK AND WHITE, AS FORMS OF SPEECH, AND AS A MEANS OF JUDGING MANKIND, SHOULD BE ELIMINATED FROM HUMAN SOCIETY.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UH7LNI_9nVY

Halle Salasse, his magesty was beyond his time. That type of thinking which is just becoming acceptable with Genetics was unthinkable back then..
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Until the philosophy which holds one race superior and another inferior is finally and permanently discredited and abandoned, everywhere is war and until there are no longer first-class and second-class citizens of any nation, until the color of a man's skin is of no more significance than the color of his eyes. And until the basic human rights are equally guaranteed to all without regard to race, there is war. And until that day, the dream of lasting peace, world citizenship, rule of international morality, will remain but a fleeting illusion to be pursued, but never attained... now everywhere is war.
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Look for me in the whirlwind or the storm, look for me all around you, for, with God's grace, I shall come and bring with me countless millions of black slaves who have died in America and the West Indies and the millions in Africa to aid you in the fight for Liberty, Freedom and Life.
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I too am not a Kneegrow but a self described Blackman of African decent.
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quote:
Originally posted by osirion:
Haile wasn't a Negro since that term was used for Niger/Congo people and Bantu back in those days. Ethiopians are considered non-Negroid or another term for them is Upper Hamites. Its all a bunch of rubbish science from a time when science was used to support the racial apartheid system in the Western dominated world.

I read it somewhere that even Bushmen are not considered Negroes so go figure.

But then look at Haile, I mean really the average Egyptian looks more like an African American more so than that Black Jew.

He'd still sit in the back of the bus with the rest of us.

He looks like Cornel West a little lol.

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Selassie's claims about not "being Negro at all" is not out of character for people from the Horn of Africa. These folks will even disavow being called "black".

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^

Pigeon Brain is actually right this time, many people in the Horn of Africa are racist against Blacks and do not consider themselves Black.

The only thing that we can assume is that many of them are Boxed in the Label "Black", because of their looks, but genetically they're very diverse. Perhaps, we should not be hasty into shoveling diverse people into compartments that do not fit with their true heritage.

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I can't believe this arab hyena agrees with something I've said.

Ma'big'fat'Arab-ass, just about every group is genetically diverse.

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^ Yet their genetic diversity is still AFRICAN and NOT Eurasian. Thus Y chromosome groups common among Ethiopians like A, B, E1b1b found among South Africans and North Africans and mitochondrial lineages like L2, L3, found among Central and West Africans some how make them genetically distinct from other Africans?! LOL

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Pigeon Brain is actually right this time, many people in the Horn of Africa are racist against Blacks and do not consider themselves Black.

[Eek!] And what exactly do you base this on?? I live not too far from an Ethiopian community and I have yet to meet an Ethiopian that does not consider him or herself 'black'! LOL You are obviously delusional.
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Djehuti,

Those Ethiopians may be conditioned a bit by the social attitudes of their new environment and seek to integrate into the mainstream to the extent possible, which will undoubtedly view them as "black". I've lived in Ethiopia at one time; it is not as bad of a problem in the more wealthy and educated segments of the society, but anti-immigrant sentiments towards "black Africans" from countries outside of the African Horn is relatively acute within the poor segments of the society. I've witnessed street kids hurl pejoratives at "black African" immigrants such as, say, "tookoor bariya', which essentially means "black slave" in Amharic, almost no different from how we are told that Egyptians refer to 'black Africans' from elsewhere in the continent as 'abid'. Sometimes, street kids are even heard hurling "Africa" to these immigrants as pejoratives, even though many of us will not necessarily see the word as such. This is sometimes complemented by the word "Ghana", which too is treated as a pejorative of some sort. I was told that the word "Ghana" became a common feature of street vocabulary due to Kwame Nkrumah's visit, as one of the first prominent leaders of 'newly independent' African nations to visit the country. It however, subsequently got turned into a street pejorative word. I personally think these xenophobic attitudes can be attributed to a few things like, the state of poverty in the country, and the sort of Ethiopian bourgeois propaganda they learn from schools, if not media, about the Solomonic origins of the founders of the country. Within the elite circles, like say, in the case of someone as economically affluent and educated as Haile Selassie, I don't think the disassociation from "Negroes" is so much "racist" driven as it is steadfastly towing the legends of Ethiopian monarchy, which again, postulates a Solomonic foundation of the royal lineage. As someone of "Solomonic descent", Haile Selassie felt compelled to not identify as someone of "Negro" extraction. So, it is a mix of reasons why people in Ethiopia, and elsewhere in the African Horn have anti-"black" attitudes. If you need further evidence, then just take a cue from past regulars of ES, like say "Yonis", and if I recall, "Lemba". You might get the impression that these personalities are lone wolves about their 'anti-black' denunciations, but actually, there is nothing out of the ordinary about their behavior. Heck, even comments in this very thread should hint on these sort of attitudes.

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Haile Selassie was the head of the African liberation Movement.

Haile Selassie was the first head of the Organization for Africa Unity.

Haile Selassie's Addis Ababa was the training ground for many a liberation movement that eventually liberated the nations of modern Africa.

What the heck are you talking about Haile Selassie not being a "negro". Ofcourse Haile Selassie was not a negro. A negro is a creation of the American slave system.

Haile Selassie was a Muur. An Ethiopian African. A higher nobility. The original white...

Black was the original white, before the so-called white Euro gang of today stole the name white in 1789.

Before that time, so-called white people were called the reds, red people, pinks like Eric the red.

Don't get yourself confused.

The so-called black of today, is the original whites.

The so-called white gang of today, are truely a bunch of red neck biker gangsters posing as the "white gang or the white people".

Yes, Haile Selassie is white. I am white. By the colour of class and nobility.

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quote:
Originally posted by IronLion:

What the heck are you talking about Haile Selassie not being a "negro".

You know what I'm talking about. If not, then you are either blind or incapacitated from reading.

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Ofcourse Haile Selassie was not a negro. A negro is a creation of the American slave system.

Okay. If you want to rationalize his position, then do so, but don't pretend I fabricated the claim for him, with rhetorical dumb questions like: "What the heck are you talking about Haile Selassie not being a "negro""

You know full well, what I'm talking about.

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Haile Selassie was a Muur. An Ethiopian African. A higher nobility. The original white...

Black was the original white, before the so-called white Euro gang of today stole the name white in 1789.

Before that time, so-called white people were called the reds, red people, pinks like Eric the red.

Don't get yourself confused.

I don't confuse myself with nonsense, which is what the above is, really. Talk of "black was the original white". Funny talk.

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The so-called black of today, is the original whites.

The so-called white gang of today, are truely a bunch of red neck biker gangsters posing as the "white gang or the white people".

Yes, Haile Selassie is white. I am white. By the colour of class and nobility.

If anybody is making stuff up, and if you should be asking anyone what they are talking about, you should look into the mirror and ask yourself that question. You will not likely find any quote from Selassie about being "white" either.
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quote:
Originally posted by The Explorer:
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quote:
Originally posted by IronLion:

What the heck are you talking about Haile Selassie not being a "negro".

You know what I'm talking about. If not, then you are either blind or incapacitated from reading.

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Citations?? Links??
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Explorer u seem to have a problem with being equal but not the same.

If u want t get to the point of course ethiopians are equal to AFricans-Americans but u are not the same and never will be.

The same u can say for modern day egyptians u are equal to them but u are not the same.

Explorer if u believe that Haile selassie and ethiopians need to label themselves negro or show any sympathy to that label u are retarded.

Dont ever compare african tribalism to racial color bigotry sorry not the same.

It seems that u have had a bad experience in ethiopia but according to culture and tradition the word bariya is like calling someone a begger.

Great example in Bedawiya culture to call some one a serf is worst than calling there mother a whore. Habesha culture to yell out u begger,theif,bariya/serf is the same as saying u litte bitch ass dirty faggot has nothing to do with color or racial bigotry.

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quote:
Originally posted by AswaniAswad:

Explorer u seem to have a problem with being equal but not the same.

If u want t get to the point of course ethiopians are equal to AFricans-Americans but u are not the same and never will be.

I am not an African-American. Your imagination is clowning with you.

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The same u can say for modern day egyptians u are equal to them but u are not the same.

Explorer if u believe that Haile selassie and ethiopians need to label themselves negro or show any sympathy to that label u are retarded.

You are retarded for not getting anything right about addressing me.

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It seems that u have had a bad experience in ethiopia but according to culture and tradition the word bariya is like calling someone a begger.

"Bariya" means slave - plain and simple. You can't even speak your own language properly. That's how retarded you are.
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Actually Bariya comes from the root word for cattle berye.

Only in the West is Negro associated with Slave/Black.

You cant associate negro/slave/black in the western definition with Abid which has no color line.

If u really want to get technical the word for white in arabic comes from the word ibd/servant not aswad,asmar,or sud.

Explorer im not attacking you just trying to understand what u mean by anti-black sentiments from people of the horn.

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Look AswaniAswad,

Again, you can discuss the word "bariya" to mean anything but what it means to people who don't know any better. With me, it simply isn't going to fly.

As for "abid", I merely raised the point that it is used as a pejorative or racist slur against dark skinned Sudanese or people from other parts of Africa that are not from the African Horn, and I've made it clear that I'm basing this on comments I've seen here by self-proclaimed Egyptian posters.

I have no reason to doubt this, because I've noticed this sort of racism in coastal north African countries. I've also read stories from darker skinned citizens from these very countries complaining about racist abuse. And if there is any doubt about this, then just take a look at the treatment "black Libyans" and "black" immigrants in Libya had been getting under this crisis. One will also take note of northern Sudanese attitudes towards southern Sudanese. And again, I see no reason to be skeptical about these complaints or viewpoints.

I've already told you how I managed to get my viewpoints on xenophobia in Ethiopia against "black Africans" who are not from the African Horn; it is simple: I've lived there for nearly 13 years -- basically raised there! You bet ya, I know what I'm talking about.

I only thought I'd chime in, because 1) some people who have not been there are not in the know, like say, Djehuti, whom my post was addressed to. People like that might get the impression that the racist attitudes we see from certain coastal north African posters is relegated to racist attitudes only in those parts of Africa, or that the "anti-black" innuendos we see from certain posters from the African Horn are isolated incidences. 2) I wanted to put the matter of Haile Selassie's attitude towards "being a Negro" into a broader perspective, and show that he comes from a culture where people generally disdain "blackness". Some folks here of course, went onto rationalize that Selassie was looking at the word "Negro" from the perspective that it is an "oppressive" word and meant "less than whitey's equal". I don't doubt that this likely had something to do with his attitude towards the word, but more importantly, "being black" generally has a negative connotation to it in Ethiopia, and hence, I'm also willing to bet Selassie would have denied being "black" (used instead of "Negro") as well, were the question presented to him, and for reasons I just stated. I sought to explain how "black" is looked in the broader Ethiopian society. Again, I'm basing this on empirical experience, not a theory of some "armchair expert" from the comfort of a keyboard. I've seen it with my very own eyes on the ground.

You claim that it looks like I had a bad experience. No, I'm just keeping it real, that's all, not for the naysayers, for if they want to verify it themselves, they can go there themselves as see it for what it is. I'm sharing the information for those curious like Djehuti, whom might want to understand why anyone would say there is some "anti-black" sentiment amongst Ethiopians, not too different from the sort we see in coastal northern African countries. It is against this backdrop, I sought to explain the attitudes of previous posters here on ES, who claim to be from the Horn of Africa.

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quote:
Originally posted by The Explorer:
Look AswaniAswad,

... I'm also willing to bet Selassie would have denied being "black" (used instead of "Negro") as well, were the question presented to him, and for reasons I just stated. I sought to explain how "black" is looked in the broader Ethiopian society. Again, I'm basing this on empirical experience, .... I've seen it with my very own eyes on the ground.

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If you are not telling lies, then post us the citations, the books, the links that back up your tales.

Post us also details of your "empirical experience" and "how you saw with your own eyes on the ground..." the data which leads you to believe that Selassie would deny being black.

Post me the words of HIM Haile Selassie I, where he denied being black.

Don't run... [Big Grin]

Lion!

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Originally posted by AswaniAswad:
Emperor Haile Selassie Own Words sounds more beautiful in Amharic

.I MUST SAY THAT BLACK AND WHITE, AS FORMS OF SPEECH, AND AS A MEANS OF JUDGING MANKIND, SHOULD BE ELIMINATED FROM HUMAN SOCIETY.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UH7LNI_9nVY


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Welcome to African Students in Ethiopia

On Wednesday, October 29, 1958, His Imperial Majesty Haile Selassie I received in audience at the Guenet Leul Palace a group of African students. 24 out of 26 students were studying in Ethiopian higher institutions of learning under the Haile Selassie I Scholarship Scheme. Below is His Imperial Majesty's speech on this occasion:

"We have brought you to Our Palace today in token of the sincere sentiments of goodwill which We feel for you and in order to become acquainted with you, so that you will not feel as strangers and outlanders during your stay in Our country.

It is likely that your knowledge of the nations of Africa is limited in the main to the countries in which you have lived. We created the scholarship which have brought you to Ethiopia because We realize fully well that the African people cannot come to know and understand one another simply through the use of maps, and because We know that there is no better way of enabling you, the children of the rest of Africa, to become acquainted with your Ethiopian brethren and for them to know you in turn.

We hope that during your period of study here, you will be enabled to observe Our people at first hand, and to come to know that you are of their same African blood.

We shall not fail to send Ethiopian students to schools in other parts of Africa, so that the programme of cultural and educational exchange which We have initiated will extend yet more widely. We rely heavily upon and pursue tenaciously Our programme of education...."

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"We must become members of a new race, overcoming petty prejudice, owing our ultimate allegiance not to nations but to our fellow men within the human community." - HIM Emperor Haile Selassie I

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On the question of racial discrimination, the Addis Ababa Conference taught, to those who will learn, this further lesson:

That until the philosophy which holds one race superior and another inferior is finally and permanently discredited and abandoned;

That until there are no longer first-class and second-class citizens of any nation;

That until the color of a man's skin is of no more significance than the color of his eyes;

That until the basic human rights are equally guaranteed to all without regard to race;

That until that day, the dream of lasting peace and world citizenship and the rule of international morality will remain but a fleeting illusion, to be pursued but never attained;

And until the ignoble and unhappy regimes that hold our brothers in Angola, in Mozambique and in South Africa in subhuman bondage have been toppled and destroyed;

Until bigotry and prejudice and malicious and inhuman self-interest have been replaced by understanding and tolerance and good-will;

Until all Africans stand and speak as free beings, equal in the eyes of all men, as they are in the eyes of Heaven;

Until that day, the African continent will not know peace. We Africans will fight, if necessary, and we know that we shall win, as we are confident in the victory of good over evil." - HIM Emperor Haile Selassie I

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Djehuti,

Those Ethiopians may be conditioned a bit by the social attitudes of their new environment and seek to integrate into the mainstream to the extent possible, which will undoubtedly view them as "black". I've lived in Ethiopia at one time; it is not as bad of a problem in the more wealthy and educated segments of the society, but anti-immigrant sentiments towards "black Africans" from countries outside of the African Horn is relatively acute within the poor segments of the society. I've witnessed street kids hurl pejoratives at "black African" immigrants such as, say, "tookoor bariya', which essentially means "black slave" in Amharic, almost no different from how we are told that Egyptians refer to 'black Africans' from elsewhere in the continent as 'abid'. Sometimes, street kids are even heard hurling "Africa" to these immigrants as pejoratives, even though many of us will not necessarily see the word as such. This is sometimes complemented by the word "Ghana", which too is treated as a pejorative of some sort. I was told that the word "Ghana" became a common feature of street vocabulary due to Kwame Nkrumah's visit, as one of the first prominent leaders of 'newly independent' African nations to visit the country. It however, subsequently got turned into a street pejorative word. I personally think these xenophobic attitudes can be attributed to a few things like, the state of poverty in the country, and the sort of Ethiopian bourgeois propaganda they learn from schools, if not media, about the Solomonic origins of the founders of the country. Within the elite circles, like say, in the case of someone as economically affluent and educated as Haile Selassie, I don't think the disassociation from "Negroes" is so much "racist" driven as it is steadfastly towing the legends of Ethiopian monarchy, which again, postulates a Solomonic foundation of the royal lineage. As someone of "Solomonic descent", Haile Selassie felt compelled to not identify as someone of "Negro" extraction. So, it is a mix of reasons why people in Ethiopia, and elsewhere in the African Horn have anti-"black" attitudes. If you need further evidence, then just take a cue from past regulars of ES, like say "Yonis", and if I recall, "Lemba". You might get the impression that these personalities are lone wolves about their 'anti-black' denunciations, but actually, there is nothing out of the ordinary about their behavior. Heck, even comments in this very thread should hint on these sort of attitudes.

I believe a lot of this comes from Euro-colonialist influence. Remember that during the colonial imperialist times Ethiopia was not only praised by Europeans as being Christian but also as being "caucasian" Hamitic. But I noticed that ever since the debunking of the Hamitic myth, this belief in caucasian superiority among Ethiopians has declined with it, though I don't doubt there are individuals who still hold on to such ridiculous notions.

And what about the Bantu Watutsi of Rwanda who were also thought of as superior Hamitic "caucasians"?

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^^Filipeeno ping pong

You think HIM of Ethiopia is servile like you Indochinese servants of French and American faggots?

And what great personality like Selassie I did Indochina produce contemporaneously?

Don't try and cast sneaky insults to the person of the greatest African Guide, Matyr and Saint like HIM haile Selassie I. Don't even try...

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Originally posted by IronLion:

If you are not telling lies, then post us the citations, the books, the links that back up your tales.

You are self-contradicting klutz. You've already prejudged my comment as "tales", and then go onto ask me to post "citations", presumably to "back" up something that you've already ruled out as untrue. That being the case, you don't need "proof". Just bask in your willful ignorance; I care not.

I've already made a note to clowns like you, that I'm not here to convince you. If you don't care to be educated and forewarned, then hey, it is easy: get your black ass to Ethiopia, and see for yourself.

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Post us also details of your "empirical experience"

If you weren't such a fucking blockhead, you would have noticed that very specific examples of expletive vocabulary were provided in my commentary for a reason.

Here's a tip: Afraid go to Ethiopia and experience it for yourself? Then try getting off your fat lazy ass and do a simple google on the Amharic expletive I provided, or yet, search "Ethiopian racism" and see what comes up.

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Don't run...

...from a retarded paper lion -- what for?
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Anybody here familiar with the Amharic word Teyim?

From what I gather in this link Ethiopians see themselves as distinct and have their own folk taxonomy. Any opinions about this link?

http://www.seleda.com/oct01/profile.shtml

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Words from [honest] self-reflecting Ethiopians themselves:

Racism in Ethiopia

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Fake wannabe scholar that can barely make an intelligible statement, quit fooling around and start putting your money where your mouth is.

You told a horrific lie about Ethiopians and HIM Emperor Haile Selassie. Now, I have put you on the spot. Instead of owing up to being a self-hating liar liar, you begin to bluster and curse.

Know this you zionist tattle tale-bearer, you do not have to convince any one here because you have neither conviction nor facts. Just jewish propaganda and old wives tales.

The other posters are reading the embarrassment and intellectual destruction of a morally convicted liar, exposure.

When you have no citations, no books, no direct quotations from Haile Selassie to back up your drunken chattiness, then it is a sign you have no cover for your lies. When all you can do is to invite me to visit Ethiopia, that is a sign you have no more intelligent thing to say.

For your information, I have real estate property in Ethiopia. I am more invested and knowledgable about Ethiopia than your jewish confused ass will learn in a thousand years. Do you own a pin in Ethiopia?

I have put up the writings and citations of Haile Selassie's view on race and mankind. Put up yours or STFU!!!! [Big Grin]

All to say, you have never lived in Ethiopia, liar. Because Ethiopians are the friendliest of Africans I know. Liar! Rasta lives in Ethiopia, Addis Ababa and Sheshamane so STFU.

You are also a self-hating zionist who needs to be brought into the light and love Haile Selassie brought to all mankind.

But then that need is your problem not mine, cause if you are blind to it then you are blind to it. [Razz]

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Originally posted by The Explorer:
Look AswaniAswad,

... I'm also willing to bet Selassie would have denied being "black" (used instead of "Negro") as well, were the question presented to him, and for reasons I just stated. I sought to explain how "black" is looked in the broader Ethiopian society. Again, I'm basing this on empirical experience, .... I've seen it with my very own eyes on the ground.

....

quote:
Originally posted by The Explorer:
quote:
Originally posted by IronLion:

If you are not telling lies, then post us the citations, the books, the links that back up your tales.

You are self-contradicting klutz. You've already prejudged my comment as "tales", and then go onto ask me to post "citations", presumably to "back" up something that you've already ruled out as untrue. That being the case, you don't need "proof". Just bask in your willful ignorance; I care not.

I've already made a note to clowns like you, that I'm not here to convince you. If you don't care to be educated and forewarned, then hey, it is easy: get your black ass to Ethiopia, and see for yourself.

quote:

Post us also details of your "empirical experience"

If you weren't such a fucking blockhead, you would have noticed that very specific examples of expletive vocabulary were provided in my commentary for a reason.

Here's a tip: Afraid go to Ethiopia and experience it for yourself? Then try getting off your fat lazy ass and do a simple google on the Amharic expletive I provided, or yet, search "Ethiopian racism" and see what comes up.

quote:

Don't run...

...from a retarded paper lion -- what for?


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quote:
Originally posted by The Explorer:
Words from [honest] self-reflecting Ethiopians themselves:

Racism in Ethiopia

Blind Explorer

This your proof that Haile Selassie claimed he was not a black man?

Lol, can you read? There is no mention of Emperor Haile Selassie in that article. Now you are getting desperate in your spiritual and intellectual blindness.

Try better. [Big Grin]

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quote:
Originally posted by Li'on'a'fuckstick:

Fake wannabe scholar that can barely make an intelligible statement, quit fooling around and start putting your money where your mouth is.

bitch, you mean fooling around in the sense that you sell your big fat broken-English speaking ass to male clients?

You bitch on like a 2c prostitute about "horrific lies", a one single one of which you cannot identify. Do you have your mother's cunt for a brain?

Effeminate paper lion, your dumb rastafarian fuckhead is too thick to see that I need no citation [which in any case has already been corroborated by at least one citation but went unnoticed by your cumskull]; I'm am the primary source!

You are unfit for engaging in human conversation. You should just tend to scratching your butt or picking lice from hair of your relatives, or yet taking a nap in your cage.

Option 2: Get a vibrator to plug it up your fat batty ass; you are way too delirious from lack of sex, such that you need to be rambling on and on like a mad freak about strangers you don't know, knowing full well that you are a paper lion safe behind a keyboard.

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quote:
Originally posted by Li'on'a'fuckstick:


This your proof that Haile Selassie claimed he was not a black man?

Lol, can you read?

Yes, I can read from your sub-anthropic mannerism, that your sloping forehead, heavy brow ridged skull cannot read a beep, if a gun was put to your fuckskull. This thing about "Haile Selassie claiming to be black" is your imaginations running wild.
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quote:
Originally posted by The Blind Explorer:
blah...blah...blah.... bark...bark..bark... ..grrr..grrrr..grrr

Once you begin to hear the demon rants of this filthy zionist mole, you know he has been hurt with truth, and intelligence! LoL!

Intellectual demolition! [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

Put up your evidence or STFU!!!!

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The fuckslave is mad at all Jews, simply because one Jewish dude refused to **** him.

What does some tree swinging creature know about the concept of truth, tell me pussyseller?

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quote:
Originally posted by IronLion:
Fake wannabe scholar that can barely make an intelligible statement, quit fooling around and start putting your money where your mouth is.

You told a horrific lie about Ethiopians and HIM Emperor Haile Selassie. Now, I have put you on the spot. Instead of owing up to being a self-hating liar liar, you begin to bluster and curse.

Know this you zionist tattle tale-bearer, you do not have to convince any one here because you have neither conviction nor facts. Just jewish propaganda and old wives tales.

The other posters are reading the embarrassment and intellectual destruction of a morally convicted liar, exposure.

When you have no citations, no books, no direct quotations from Haile Selassie to back up your drunken chattiness, then it is a sign you have no cover for your lies. When all you can do is to invite me to visit Ethiopia, that is a sign you have no more intelligent thing to say.

For your information, I have real estate property in Ethiopia. I am more invested and knowledgable about Ethiopia than your jewish confused ass will learn in a thousand years. Do you own a pin in Ethiopia?

I have put up the writings and citations of Haile Selassie's view on race and mankind. Put up yours or STFU!!!! [Big Grin]

All to say, you have never lived in Ethiopia, liar. Because Ethiopians are the friendliest of Africans I know. Liar! Rasta lives in Ethiopia, Addis Ababa and Sheshamane so STFU.

You are also a self-hating zionist who needs to be brought into the light and love Haile Selassie brought to all mankind.

But then that need is your problem not mine, cause if you are blind to it then you are blind to it. [Razz]

quote:
Originally posted by The Explorer:
Look AswaniAswad,

... I'm also willing to bet Selassie would have denied being "black" (used instead of "Negro") as well, were the question presented to him, and for reasons I just stated. I sought to explain how "black" is looked in the broader Ethiopian society. Again, I'm basing this on empirical experience, .... I've seen it with my very own eyes on the ground.

....

quote:
Originally posted by The Explorer:
quote:
Originally posted by IronLion:

If you are not telling lies, then post us the citations, the books, the links that back up your tales.

You are self-contradicting klutz. You've already prejudged my comment as "tales", and then go onto ask me to post "citations", presumably to "back" up something that you've already ruled out as untrue. That being the case, you don't need "proof". Just bask in your willful ignorance; I care not.

I've already made a note to clowns like you, that I'm not here to convince you. If you don't care to be educated and forewarned, then hey, it is easy: get your black ass to Ethiopia, and see for yourself.

quote:

Post us also details of your "empirical experience"

If you weren't such a fucking blockhead, you would have noticed that very specific examples of expletive vocabulary were provided in my commentary for a reason.

Here's a tip: Afraid go to Ethiopia and experience it for yourself? Then try getting off your fat lazy ass and do a simple google on the Amharic expletive I provided, or yet, search "Ethiopian racism" and see what comes up.

quote:

Don't run...

...from a retarded paper lion -- what for?


Joo boi, put up or shut the fvck up!

We are waiting for your evidence, not the tales of your sexual frustrations.

Show us where HIM Emperor Haile Selassie I gave off those anti-black sentiments and sundry false innuendos that you peddle like a street whore.

Put up or shut up!!! LOL [Big Grin]

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weed monkey, why does your mother's cunt look like a shriveled up Jewish dick?

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quote:
Originally posted by The Explorer:
blah..blah..blah..

Zoo boi

Just fess up and say you are sorry for lieing against Ethiopians and Emperor Haile Selassie. I caught you pants down seeking to divide and conquer and shut down your cagotic lieing ass.

Isn't that why you have been jabbering for hours today? Confessing all your pent up sexual anxieties, including an oedipus complex for your mother. Typical jew filth.

But back to business. Put up or shut up and face the shame. You were caught this time, liar liar liar.... lieing about living in Ethiopia!

LMBAO [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

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batty boy, can I get you some cotton, because I think you are suffering from pms.

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^^Translated: I am stumped for evidence and words so I am reduced to infantile curse word and fantasies of ponography.

You are dismissed! Shush, ...get lost...

LoL!

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Irene'Li'on'a'dick, I don't know how you managed to go the toilet and clean your ass without parental guidance.

You are all bitch, no intellect. You are so consumed with the dead royal dick of Haile Selassie, your "Allah", that blood stops running to your brain.

You incessantly beg meaninglessly after grown ups like a 2 year old kid with a running nose. I don't give a rat's ass what you believe or don't, since I know your reaction so fucking purely emotional, like a bitch pumped on pms; there is no modicum of intellectual reaction in you towards my info. Nada.

My post is my personal experience, dummy. I do not need a citation for it, since I'm the primary source. Even a dog will have better time understanding this, than you can. Instead of citing me, you fabricate things in your mind, and then beg me, like a beggar on the street corner, to give you "evidence" for something that you made up. No, you go fock yourself, slave slut.

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quote:
Originally posted by The Explorer:
nada nada nada.....

My post is my personal experience, blah blah blah....

Ho, so you made your confession atlast! [Big Grin]

No citiations, no books no authorities, no quotes.

So you just pulled your stinky lie out of your stinky psoraisis infested asshole...LOL! [Razz]

So now is your anger because I exposed you to the hard stare of your boifriend Jehuti? [Big Grin]

Case closed. Atleast I made you fess up!

Ho, you are dismissed finally! LOL! [Razz]

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Fuckcoon, the real confession has to come out of your ass, which is that you made a baboon's ass out of yourself, because you did not bother reading my post, wherein it is explicit that I'm narrating my experience, OR that, like a clown who worships a dead human being, you have an emotional axe to grind, by which you are willing to lie your weed-smoking ass off, and attempt to deceive...of course, none other than yourself, for anyone with even half a brain cell and can read, will not tow your line.

Now, go to the kitchen, where you belong, and make me a sandwich. Let the grown ups debate.

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by The Explorer:
nada nada nada.....

My post is my personal experience, blah blah blah....

Ho, so you made your confession atlast! [Big Grin]

No citiations, no books no authorities, no quotes.

So you just pulled your stinky lie out of your stinky psoraisis infested asshole...LOL! [Razz]

So now is your anger because I exposed you to the hard stare of your boifriend Jehuti? [Big Grin]

Case closed. Atleast I made you fess up!

Ho, you are dismissed finally! LOL! [Razz]

Case closed! [Smile]

Now that will teach you to watch before you tell lies next time.

Liar liar liar!

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fagmouth, do you wash your mouth with strong kerosene, because your mouth smells worse than the funk from your anushole? LOL

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So we continue. Yes Marcus Garvey did write some stupid things about Haile Selassie, but those were the very comments that undid him. It was widely rejected in the Pan Africanist circle, and his popularity took a further plunge when he made unfair criticisms against His Imperial Majesty. A few months after that comment, he had a stroke that eventually killed him.

Read:

See: Marcus Garvey and the UNIA Papers:
Section on: The Italo Ethiopian War and the Pan African Response:

http://books.google.ca/books?id=uuP7JIzrpEAC&lpg=PR101&ots=5jSK6Dcbjh&dq=haile%20selassie%20and%20negroes&hl=fr&pg=PR100#v=onepage&q=haile%20selassie%20and%20negroes&f=false

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