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You have claimed tropical africans are white skinned, blue eyed, thin nosed, blonde etc.

^^Bullshiit.
I said people with those features do exist among
tropical Africans. You said no such people existed
at all.
Let's recap not only your false bullshiit claim,
but look at your long record of bogus claims on ES.

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[Zaharan since you claimed having white skin, thin nose, straight-wavy blonde hair and light eyes are 'tropical african'...

Is Owen Wilson a tropical african?


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^^Sorry loser. You are a bottom-feeder loser who
feeds off the scraps that the roaches won't even touch.
I said such features do occur in tropical Africa, as
all can see below. All your bluster can't save you.
You have been exposed multiple times as a liar.
You claimed that NO TROPICAL AFRICANS WHATSOEVER
had light hair, skin or eyes, and were comprehensively debunked,
as shown below.

WHen you prove tha your multiple bogus claims
are true below,
then tell me something. Until then, you
are dismissed, and will continue to be dismissed.
But don't think your list of failures will stay hidden.
Still waiting for you to prove your bogus claims below.

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Let's recap - don;t think you will escape. The list
grows every time you post.


THE FAKER EXPOSED- PART 10

quote:
Originally posted by cassiterides:
^ Eurafrican is Caucasoid.




^^You are once again exposed. You said EurAfrican
is Caucasoid, and cited Serti in support. But using
your own citation any reader can see that Sergi
considers EurAfricans to be an amalgamation or mixture
of many types, directly contradicting your claim.

SErgi says: QUOTE:

"This human species, with cranial and facial characters thus well determined,
I call Eurafrican; and this because, having had its origin in Africa, where it
is still represented by many peoples, it has been diffused from prehistoric times
in Europe... The Eurafrican species thus falls into three races: the African,
with red-brown and black pigmentation.. Thus the Mediterranean stock is a race
or variety of the Eurafrican species."

--G. Sergi

You have again failed and are once again exposed.
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THE FAKER EXPOSED PART 9- HE CLAIMS ALL THESE HIGGINS "DISTORTIONS"
BUT WHEN ASKED TO NAME THE SPECIFIC WEBSITES OF THIS ALLEGED
"AFROCENTRIC' HORROR, HE RUNS AWAY. WHY IS THAT FAKER?


In fact, Godfrey Higgins ALSO says this about "negroes"

"I believe all the Blavk bambinos of Italy are negroes- not merely blacks;
this admitted, it would prove they very early date of their entrance into Italy." pg 286
pg 434
"the ancient Eturians had the countenances of Negroes, the same as the images of Buddah in INdia." pg 166
pg 474- "They aere in fact, all one nation, with one religion, that of Buddah, and they were originally NEgroes"
pg 59: "nor can it be reasonably doubted, that a race of Negroes formerly had power and pre-eminence in India"
pg 59- AS TO ETHIOPIA: And it is probable that an Ethiopian, a negro, correctly speaking, may have been meant, not merely a black person; and it seems probable that the following may have ben the real fact, viz, that a race of NEgroes or Blacks, but probably of the former, came to India to the west."

cASSIRETEDES own source debunks him. Note the footnote by
his own author- QUOTE: ['i]"may not have been
Negroes, though Blacks, though it is probably
they were so."[/i]

His own source says they may not have been Negroes
then adds: THOUGH IT IS PROBABLY THEY WERE SO."

^The Faker once again, debunks himself.
And he seems not to realize that Ethiopia is in
"sub-Saharan" Africa.. lol.. pathetic incompetent..


And he never shows these massive number of websites
"all over the internet". Like what? How many? If they
are "all over" then he should at least be able to give
direct links to 6 showing pages where the "Afrocentrics:
are "distorting" Higgins work. LEt's say what the faker
has besides hot air. Post DIRECT LINKS to 6 of
the huge number of alleged "Afrocentric" websites
where the Afrocentrics are "distorting" Higgins. SHow
how they are distorting Higgins with specific quotes
and specific context.


Watch the Faker duck and run when he is again called
on a claim, or make up yet another lie to cover his exposure...
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THE FAKER EXPOSED- part 8:

quote:


Originally posted by Cassiredes:
"Fair hair and light eyes colours are only found among Caucasoids, esp of
Europe.
"

But then, in your own thread, by your own hand,
you present a picture of an African albino that
has pale skin, light brown or hazel eyes and fair
hair. You said it was impossible, but then debunk
yourself with your own posted picture.. This is
like the 8-9th time you keep tripping over yourself
with lies, contradictions, and bogus claims.


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RECAP
The Faker exposed- part 7
Originally posted by Cassiredes:
"Fair hair and light eyes colours are only found among Caucasoids, esp of
Europe.
"

^^Your claim is is completely bogus. Native
diversity or albinism causes some tropical Africans
to have light eyes and light hair. You fail againn..

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THE FAKER EXPOSED: PART 6
1-- ^^Faker! In your initial posts you claimed that it
was Cavalli-Sforza talking 'bout negroes "mutating"
from Pygmies. Now in your "corrected" post,
YOU STILL APPEAR A FAKE.
You now remove Cavalli-
Sforza's name on the "mutant" claim, admitting that
you were lying all along!
Bwa ha aha
a hah a ha ahahaha aha ahah..


2-- Second point- Peter Frost is debunked by Cavalli-Sforza
who says as to his so-called "mutation" theory:

QUOTE:

"It remains difficult to pinpoint an ancient place
of origin for the Negroid type which includes all
West, Central and South Africans. Contrary to many
earlier opinions, modern Pygmies and Khosians are
not good candidates for a proto-African population."


--Cavalli Sforza et al, 1994. The history and geography of human genes. 194

Frost mentions Cavalli-Sforza in connection with
sexual selection, and movement of some groups
from Nigeria-Cameroon to other parts of Africa.
He never says Cavalli Sforza talks bout any
"negro mutation" and in fact any mutation claim
is directly contradicted by Sforza. Sucka, you
not only lied bout Cavalli-Sforza, you lied about
your own white writer- Peter Frost, and misrepresented him.



THE FAKER EXPOSED: PART 6
CassiREDES says:
''There are then no Australoids with blonde hair past the age of about twenty''

^^LMAO! Totally fake! Credible up to date sources
note that blondism is prevalent in early life
BUT, contrary to your claim that:
"There are then no Australoids with blonde hair past the age of about twenty",
the shade of color varies. In maturity the hair
usually turns a darker brown color, but sometimes
remains blond. See:
"Gene Expression: Blonde Australian Aboriginals". Gnxp.com.
http://www.gnxp.com/blog/2005/08/blonde-australian-aboriginals.php.

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^^Here is one of your Australians over 20 years old
who does have blonde hair. YOu are caught out
spinning bogus claims AGAIN!. Bwa ha aha
a hah a ha ahahaha aha ahah..
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THE FAKER EXPOSED: PART 5a
[b]So where are these tropical african peoples
with pale white or fair skin? blonde red hair?


^^You fail again. African populations can readily produce blond
or reddish blond hair as noted by hair study author Hrdy
1978 himself, and he references Nubia as an example.
Albinism is another source of red or blond hair
in Africa, and albinism is much more prevalent in
African populations than among Europeans. Even
African Americans produce more albinos than white
Americans. (The pigmentary system: physiology and
pathophysiology- By James J. Nordlund 2006: 603)
(E. Roach and V. Miller 2004. Neurocutaneous disorders.)
QUOTE: "In general, the prevalence of albinism in
Africa is much higher, in the range of 1 in 1
100 to 1 in 3900."

So Africa can and does routinely produce red and blond hair.
All non-Africans are MORE LIMITED subsets of
ORIGINAL African diversity. THe originals
have more built-in diversity than the limited
sub-set populations. This is straight science as
noted by the quote from TIshkoff 2000.

Nor are Africans the only tropical peoples who
can produce reddish hair or blond hair. Among
Australian Aborigines, some tropical groups produce 100%
of individuals with blond hair. Melanesians can
also produce blond or reddish hair, and do so routinely.

White people have no monopoly at all on that hair
color. They merely show more of it, but even among
whites, red hair for example is minor- occurring in less than
5% of the overall European populations, mostly in
northern Europe.

So the claim that there are no tropical Africans with such
variation is once again, proved fake. You made the claim.


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THE FAKER EXPOSED: PART 4
ime and time again, you stand debunked and exposed
for falsifying claims and references. Let's recap:



Originally posted by CASSIFAKedes::
quote:

The source is Cavalli-Sforza's book on the Pygmies entitled 'African pygmies' (Academic Press, 1986).

This work shows that Negroids mutated from an ancestral pygmy population around 9,000 BC in West Africa. So the 'true' Black African today is a recent mutation. Caucasoids and Mongoloids predate them. [Wink] Negroids only migrated into other parts of Africa during the Bantu expansion or slightly earlier. Prior to them, Caucasoids inhabited North Africa and Bushmen (Capoids) to the south who were displaced by the Caucasoids from the Mediterranean around 12,000 BC.


^^A bogus reference.
Why should anyone take your word for it given
past bogus references? Quote where Cavalli-Sforza
says these so-called "negroids" "mutated" from
Pygmies. The burden of proof is on you, since you made
the claim.

While you scurry to cover your tracks with yet
more bogus claims, Cavali Sforza, in his well
known The History and Geography of Human Genes,
1994 Cavalli-Sforza summarizes his 1986 work on
Pygmies and specifically debunks the "Pygmy as ancestor"
theory held by other older writings. QUOTE:


"It remains difficult to pinpoint an ancient place
of origin for the Negroid type which includes all
West, Central and South Africans. Contrary to many
earlier opinions, modern Pygmies and Khosians are
not good candidates for a proto-African population."

--Cavalli Sforza et al, 1994. The history and geography of human genes. 194


SO much for your lying claims of "mutations" from "Pygymy" ancestors.
In short, you lied about Cavalli-Sforza, creating a falsified
claim and a bogus "supporting" reference to a claim that is
nowhere supported in his work. You are once again
exposed as yet another racist faker
You are not fooling anyone.


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THE FAKER EXPOSED-PART 3-
YOu then tried to cover up your lie with even
more bogus nformation and STILL fail


You "modified" your Cavalli Sforza claim by including
page numbers, and then changing some wording to
"adaptive radiation" hoping to divert attention
from your exposure.. lmao..

However pages 361-362 of Cavalli Sforza's 1986 book
says absolutely nothing about any Negroes "mutating" from
pygmies, nor any "adaptive radiation." It merely
discusses Pygmy history and geography. You
picked out a page at random, not knowing it can be
verified via Google Books. You were asked to provide
a direct quote but are still running. Now why is that?

""It remains difficult to pinpoint an ancient place
of origin for the Negroid type which includes all
West, Central and South Africans. Contrary to many
earlier opinions, modern Pygmies and Khosians are
not good candidates for a proto-African population."


--Cavalli Sforza et al, 1994. The history and geography of human genes. 194


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THE FAKER EXPOSED- PART 2
And Your pathetic "modification" STILL turned
out to be bogus. You then said:

"True" Black Africans appear as a recent
adaptive radiation apparently branching off from
an ancestral Pygmy population — a line of
ancestry also indicated by osteological data
(Coon 1962:651-656; Watson et al. 1996).



^^But in fact, Watson 1996 has nothing to do with
osteological data and does not even mention it. It
has to do with mtDNA.

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THE FAKER EXPOSED- PART 1C
YOU THEN PROFFERED ANOTHER FAKE CLAIM BELOW:
He says:
quote:

"Note that in the Old Testament the Danites are the only Hebrew people described as being maritime and associated with ships.."



^^Complete Nonsense. In the Old Testament, the tribe of
Zebulun is mentioned as specifically associated
with ships and maritime elements. QUOTE:

Genesis 49:13

"Zebulun will dwell at the shore of the seas;
Yea, he will be at the shore of the ships, And
his side toucheth upon Sidon. "



Cassi-Fakdes: MULTIPLE TIMES AT BAT, MULTIPLE
EXPOSURES AS A FAKE...


--fake claim that no Australian Abo over 20 is blonde

-- fake claim that NO tropical Africans have any diversity in hair, skin or eye color

-- fake Cavalli-Sforza citation

-- 2nd fake Cavalli-Sforza reference

-- Faked Watson reference

-- Faked Biblical reference

-- FAke representation of Peter Frost's work

-- Fake claim that "studies" say "egyptians were dark are not like 'light-skinned Europeans". COnveniently, the alleged study is missing..

--Fake Higgins claims

--Fake claim that Guiseppe Sergi's EurAfrican race concept is negro-free

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No. The photo i posted is 40% Caucasoid, not pure-blooded. Pure-blooded Caucasoids are far lighter. Pure-blooded Caucasoids in East Africa are extinct when they admixed with the Negroid populations. Which is what their genetics reveals, because as modern geneticists conclude -they are 'intermediate' between Eurasian (Caucasoid) and Sub-Saharan African (Negroid).

Modern East Africans are therefore racially hybrid, but when you compare them to pure-blooded Negroid populations you can clearly see their inherited Caucasoid genes, hence their non-Negroid racial traits such as thinner noses and straighter hair

So just by looking at a photo...you are able to discern exactly what percentage of race a person has? [Roll Eyes]

What is the genetic marker that pinpoints "lighter skin" or "thinner noses & lips" and "straighter hair" thereby distinguishing between a "Negroid" and a "Caucasoid"?

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quote:
Originally posted by cassiterides:
quote:
Originally posted by funkcity1000:
So basically I guess what you and your clown ass friends are saying is that someone who looked like this:

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hooked up with someone who looked like this:


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and their child looked like:

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[Cool]

That's what happened. Disgusting, but you can't change history. Modern East Africans are now 'intermediates' between Negroids and Caucasoids.

De Stefano et al. 2002 -

''East African groups, such as Ethiopians and Somalis, have great genetic resemblance to Caucasians and are clearly intermediate between sub-Saharan Africans and Caucasians'' [/QB]

You do know that when someone who looks like this:

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hooks up with someone who looks like:

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they can have a child who looks like:

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Negroid + Negroid = Caucasoid [Cool]

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http://www.colorado.edu/news/r/f2cfd1486f027369d3b04b38eef59fe5.html

quote:
Modern humans who first arose in Africa had moved into Europe as far back as about 45,000 years ago, according to a new study by an international research team led by the Russian Academy of Sciences and the University of Colorado at Boulder.

The evidence consists of stone, bone and ivory tools discovered under a layer of ancient volcanic ash on the Don River in Russia some 250 miles south of Moscow, said John Hoffecker, a fellow of CU-Boulder's Institute of Arctic and Alpine Research. Thought to contain the earliest evidence of modern humans in Europe, the site also has yielded perforated shell ornaments and a carved piece of mammoth ivory that appears to be the head of a small human figurine, which may represent the earliest piece of figurative art in the world, he said.

"The big surprise here is the very early presence of modern humans in one of the coldest, driest places in Europe," Hoffecker said. "It is one of the last places we would have expected people from Africa to occupy first."

http://www.colorado.edu/news/releases/2002/140.html

quote:
Ongoing excavations in Russia indicate anatomically modern humans were developing new technologies for survival in the cold, harsh region some 30,000 to 40,000 years ago, according to a University of Colorado at Boulder researcher.

John Hoffecker of CU-Boulder's Institute of Arctic and Alpine Research said that excavations at Kostenki -- a series of more than 20 sites about 250 miles south of present-day Moscow -- have yielded bone and ivory needles with eyelets that are 30,000 years old.

In addition, the research team uncovered nearly articulated bones of both arctic foxes and hares at the site, which is along the Don River. These discoveries strongly hint that ancient residents of Kostenki had developed trapping techniques to obtain furs that would help keep them warmer in the winters.

The many discoveries at Kostenki since the 1940s imply that anatomically modern humans who had migrated out of Africa 40,000 to 50,000 years ago were adapting to the frigid temperatures of the central east European Plain, he said.


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quote:
Originally posted by funkcity1000:

What is the genetic marker that pinpoints "lighter skin"

SLC24A5 (which is absent in pure-blooded Negroids).

quote:
or "thinner noses & lips" and "straighter hair" thereby distinguishing between a "Negroid" and a "Caucasoid"?
Geneticists don't yet know. However since we know those features occur in different races and are inherited we know they have a genetic basis just like white skin (SLC24A5).
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Bryan Sykes The Seven Daughters of Eve: The Science That Reveals Our Genetic Ancestry, W.W. Norton, 2001, reports that Native Europeans have only 7 indigenous mtDNA lines. This compares with over 140 in Africa in mtDNA lines.


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Its certainly plausible. A while ago I came across a summary of Jenny Jochens' study titled "Race and Ethnicity in the Old Norse World." I no longer have the entire summary but Rorik Radford explains:

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3.By the Saga Age, swarthy complexions and features were not unknown in the North, but they were considered aesthetic faults. "Geirmundar ßáttr heljarskins" tells of Geirmundr and Hámundr, twin sons of a minor 9th century Norwegian king who were born with skin so dark they were called heljarskin--Hel-Skin; Black as Hel. The infants' mother exchanged them for the fair-skinned child of a slave, but the boys' noble lineage was apparent in their bearing and actions and their father, King Hjörr, readily acknowledged his paternity. Although most sources say the twins were the sons of Hjörr's Norwegian queen, one passage in Landnámabók says the king had brought back a captive princess from a war in Bjarmaland (now Finland), and the dark-skinned boys were born to this woman.

4.The term "svartr" (black) is commonly ascribed in the sagas to people with dark coloring, contrasted with "hvítr" (white) for those of fair complexion and features. These terms do not refer to race in the modern sense--black Africans were never described as svartr, but as blámenn (blue men). Still, the svartr/hvítr distinction shows an early attunement to physical differences based on coloring.

5. Some Saga Age Norwegians were apparently born with dark features without outside genetic influence. A well-known example is Hálfdan svarti (the Black), the father of King Harald Finehair. Likewise, Gísli Súrsson is described in his saga as a "ma?r svartr," a dark man. More often, however, dark features were attributed to foreign or even trollish genetic intervention.

6. The most famous white/black dichotomy in the sagas involves the family of Egill Skallagrímsson. Egill's father is introduced as "a dark and ugly man like his forefathers," although his brother ?órólfr was "the most handsome of men." Skallagrím's descendants, the Myramenn, are said to include both the fairest and ugliest of men. The origin of the dark side of the family line is implied in the byname of Skallagrím's great uncle, Hallbjörn hálftroll. Even though dark features might be attributed to supernatural influence, people exhibiting this trait were still considered to be Norwegians, and their intermarriage with fair- skinned Norse presented no special issues.

Also interesting:


"They attacked Nekur off the coast Morocco. There was fierce fighting with the Moors but in the end the Vikings were victorious, and many of the "Blue-men," as they called Moors, were ultimately carried off prisoners to Ireland, where we hear of their fate in the Fragments of Irish Annals." - Cambridge Medieval History

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Oh, if whites as we know them are only roughly 10,000-5,000 years old, whereas Europe was occupied by anatomically modern humans 40,000 years ago, obviously these were dark-skinned races who would've left significant offspring even after lighter phenotypes appeared.
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^ The swarthy inhabitants of Scandinavia the Norse recorded were the Lapps. These appear in Norse mythology as trolls, the dark elves and black dwarves etc.

I have a 11th century old Norse text which describes the children of Lapps and the Norse as ''half-goblins''.

Elf-arrows or 'elf-shot' are also known to be stone, this is because the Lapps were more primitive stone-tool users than the later arriving Norse.

And to point out the obvious, the Lapps were not from Africa... they are a cold adapted people.

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quote:
Originally posted by cassiterides:
quote:
Originally posted by funkcity1000:

What is the genetic marker that pinpoints "lighter skin"

SLC24A5 (which is absent in pure-blooded Negroids).

quote:
or "thinner noses & lips" and "straighter hair" thereby distinguishing between a "Negroid" and a "Caucasoid"?
Geneticists don't yet know. However since we know those features occur in different races and are inherited we know they have a genetic basis just like white skin (SLC24A5).

Of course SLC24A5(and SLC45A2) is "absent" in "pure-blooded Negroids" [Roll Eyes] ....because SLC24A5 is a MUTATION that deals with ALBINISM.

Albinistic "caucasoids" are nothing more than mutated genetically recessive negros....

quote:
Aethiops Albus, Albino
-Medical lexicon: a dictionary of medical science : containing a concise explanation of the various subjects and terms, with the French and other synonymes, notices of climate, and of celebrated mineral waters, formulae for various officinal and empirical preparations, etc, Part 916; Part 1846 (1846) by Robley Dunglison

remember you stated that East Africans:

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The point is though they derived their thin noses and straighter hair through their Caucasoid heritage. Those features are not natural among Negroids, despite the Afrocentric fantasies they are.
Now lets see if you can pull a rabbit out of your hat and describe the specific genetic marker that pinpoints "caucasian" thin lips & nose, straight hair... [Roll Eyes]
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[Someone wrote] "And to point out the obvious, the Lapps were not from Africa... they are a cold adapted people."

From the geographical area where the Lapp are found: a wood sculpture from the first century BC:

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quote:
Originally posted by funkcity1000:

Albinistic "caucasoids" are nothing more than mutated genetically recessive negros....

Caucasoids predate Negroids -

You guys are the most recent mutation, not us. Your albino theory is laughable.

Mauny, 1978:

''The oldest-known skeleton of a West African was found in Nigeria at Iwo Eleru; it is of a negroid man and is dated to 9250 ± 150 BC.''

''True Black Africans appear as a recent adaptive radiation, apparently branching off from an ancestral Pygmy population — a line of ancestry also indicated by osteological data (Coon 1962:651-656; Watson et al. 1996). This radiation seems to have occurred somewhere in West Africa. Before the Bantu expansion about 3,000 years ago, true Black Africans were absent from the continent's central, eastern, and southern regions (Cavalli-Sforza 1986:361-362; Oliver 1966). They were also absent from the middle Nile until about 4,000 years ago, at which time they begin to appear in paintings from Pharaonic Egypt and in skeletal remains from Nubia (Junker 1921).''

Btw, why do Negroid albinos look nothing like Caucasoids? [Roll Eyes]

Negroid albino -

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LMAO. How many white children look like this?

Negroid bone structure is hideous - wide noses, prognathism. Those features are not found in Caucasoids.

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Originally posted by funkcity1000:
Now lets see if you can pull a rabbit out of your hat and describe the specific genetic marker that pinpoints "caucasian" thin lips & nose, straight hair... [Roll Eyes] [/QB]

http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=15;t=005619

Most sexual dimorphism is found in Europeans (Frost, 2006). Several studies have found wider hips, narrower waists, and thicker deposition of subcutaneous fat in women of European descent than in other women (Hrdlicka, 1898; Meredith & Spurgeon, 1980; Nelson & Nelson, 1986). This accentuation is noticeable even before birth: Euro-American fetuses are sexually more dimorphic than African-American fetuses (Choi & Trotter, 1970).

White woman are delicate have symmetrical faces, narrower waists and wider hips than black woman.

Black People instead have little sexual dimorphism. Black females often look like black males - because both are robust with the same non-attractive facial features.

Compared - black woman (top) with white woman (bottom):

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quote:
Originally posted by cassiterides:
quote:
Originally posted by funkcity1000:

Albinistic "caucasoids" are nothing more than mutated genetically recessive negros....

Caucasoids predate Negroids -

You guys are the most recent mutation, not us. Your albino theory is laughable.

Mauny, 1978:

''The oldest-known skeleton of a West African was found in Nigeria at Iwo Eleru; it is of a negroid man and is dated to 9250 ± 150 BC.''

''True Black Africans appear as a recent adaptive radiation, apparently branching off from an ancestral Pygmy population — a line of ancestry also indicated by osteological data (Coon 1962:651-656; Watson et al. 1996). This radiation seems to have occurred somewhere in West Africa. Before the Bantu expansion about 3,000 years ago, true Black Africans were absent from the continent's central, eastern, and southern regions (Cavalli-Sforza 1986:361-362; Oliver 1966). They were also absent from the middle Nile until about 4,000 years ago, at which time they begin to appear in paintings from Pharaonic Egypt and in skeletal remains from Nubia (Junker 1921).''

Btw, why do Negroid albinos look nothing like Caucasoids? [Roll Eyes]

Negroid albino -

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LMAO. How many white children look like this?

Negroid bone structure is hideous - wide noses, prognathism. Those features are not found in Caucasoids.

This is pseudo-science my friend.
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Just added -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Winchell

And here's his racial origin chart from my photobucket -

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Btw, why do Negroid albinos look nothing like Caucasoids?


http://myalbinism.com/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRLf9GnDjtc&feature=fvwrel

basically "albino" means "white skinned black african"...

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Aethiops Albus, Albino
-Medical lexicon: a dictionary of medical science : containing a concise explanation of the various subjects and terms, with the French and other synonymes, notices of climate, and of celebrated mineral waters, formulae for various officinal and empirical preparations, etc, Part 916; Part 1846 (1846) by Robley Dunglison

And BTW North Africa was inhabited by black skinned people...those same black skinned people who crossed the "mediterranean" and moved into Europe ...

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LIBYA

The Libya of Homer (Od. iv. 87, xiv. 295) and Hesiod (Theog. 739; comp. Strab. i. p. 29) comprised all that portion of the African continent which lay west of Lower and Middle Aegypt They knew it by report only, had no conception of its form or extent, and gave its inabitants the general name of Aethiopes, the dark or black coloured men.

-Dictionary of Greek and Roman geography, Volume 2(1857) edited by Sir William Smith
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Hey dude...this chart of yours doesn't mention any "caucasoids"... [Roll Eyes]

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^ That photo with the caption isn't me.
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quote:
Originally posted by funkcity1000:
[QB] Hey dude...this chart of yours doesn't mention any "caucasoids"... [Roll Eyes]

The Adamites according to Winchell = Caucasoids. There is a chapter in his book called ''ADAM A WHITE MAN''. pp.158-159, p. 476. Feel free to take a look.
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Aethiopes, the dark or black coloured men
Aethiopes means burt faced, not dark or black.

aitho means burnt + ops, face.

The reason the Greeks & Romans believed the Aethiopians were burnt is because of the myth that their skin was burnt by the chariot of helios. This myth is found in Hyginus' fabulae.

So the ancient greeks thought that extreme dark skin was an abnormal mutation.

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quote:
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Aethiopes, the dark or black coloured men
Aethiopes means burt faced, not dark or black.

aitho means burnt + ops, face.

The reason the Greeks & Romans believed the Aethiopians were burnt is because of the myth that their skin was burnt by the chariot of helios. This myth is found in Hyginus' fabulae.

So the ancient greeks thought that extreme dark skin was an abnormal mutation.

You make no sense. At first you attempt to claim that Aethiopes DOESN'T mean "dark skin" but "burt"(sp?)...and then you say that it does mean dark skin because "Aethiopes" was a descriptor of people with dark skin from Africa...lol

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The name Ham signifies the Sun-burnt, and the term Aithiopes, applied by the Greeks to all dark races, has the same meaning. The Aithiopes are therefore the Hamites, or rather the Cushites, a family of the Hamites, the most remote of mankind in the Homeric system of geography,
-Poseidôn: a link between Semite, Hamite, and Aryan (1872) By Robert Brown

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History informs us that an ancient Egyptian type underwent a similar blending with the African, and explains that this was occasioned by intermarriages with Negroes, at that time known as Ethiopians,
-Preadamites; or, A demonstration of the existence of men before Adam (1880) By Alexander Winchell

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in Europe, as in Asia, the Hamites became the first founders of cities. Athens was Hamitic, and so were Dodona, Argos, Aeolis and Doris, as well as Plakia and Skulaka on the Asiatic shore of Marmora, and Larissa in Ionia.
-Preadamites; or, A demonstration of the existence of men before Adam (1880) By Alexander Winchell

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The Hamitic type, it appears, blends on all sides with that of the neighboring peoples, so that it is difficult to decide where the Hamite ends and the Negro begins.
-Preadamites; or, A demonstration of the existence of men before Adam (1880) by Alexander Winchell
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quote:
Originally posted by cassiterides:
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Originally posted by funkcity1000:
[QB] Hey dude...this chart of yours doesn't mention any "caucasoids"... [Roll Eyes]

The Adamites according to Winchell = Caucasoids. There is a chapter in his book called ''ADAM A WHITE MAN''. pp.158-159, p. 476. Feel free to take a look.
If there IS such a book(which is HIGHLY DOUBTFUL)...why don't you find the specific quote and present it here with verifying link to said affirmation. [Cool]
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quote:
Originally posted by funkcity1000:
You make no sense. At first you attempt to claim that Aethiopes DOESN'T mean "dark skin" but "burt"(sp?)...and then you say that it does mean dark skin because "Aethiopes" was a descriptor of people with dark skin from Africa...lol

''burnt faced'' = dark skin.

To the ancient greeks and romans dark skin = burnt. They did not regard it as a natural feature, on the contrary they thought that prior to the aethiopes being burnt by helios' sky chariot that the skin of africans was light. It only became dark after being severely burnt according to the fall of phaethon myth. Look it up.

As late as Pliny the elder (natural history, 7. 4), the Romans/Greeks were still shocked and intrigued by the dark skin of the black africans. It was something they had never before as such encountered and to them it appeared very abnormal.


7. 4 -

quis enim Aethiopas antequam cerneret credidit?’’

‘‘for who believed in the Ethiopians before seeing them’’

- Europeans had never before encountered people with dark skin.

Obvious a massive blow to afrocentrism since the ancient literature is very clear ancient greeks and romans had never encountred dark people until a late stage in time and when they discovered them they could not believe their eyes at what they were seeing.

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Originally posted by Simple Girl:
This whole thread is in response to my thread about gospel music having Scottish origins.lol...Now the fruitcakes are desperate to prove that the Scottish were black. [Roll Eyes] I'll have to see what I can dig up in the way of medieval Scottish art to see how they really looked. [Wink]

Whites weren't even around when blacks created Gospel Music.

Ya' know, due to segregation.

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quote:
Originally posted by cassiterides:
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Originally posted by Nehesy:
"Ancient and Modern Britons" Vol I & II by David Mac Ritchie is full of evidence for existence of Black scots and among them " Kenneth King of Alban; who was known as Dubh, Niger or the Black " P 266 Vol I

* Macduff/Magha Dubh = The son of the blacks:The clan of the Black , Vol I P 266 (according to the swarthy and black colour of those of the tribe)

* Kenneth ruled blacks and whites in scotland ,Vol II p 87

* Magha Dubh shortened into McDuff , represented "one division of the posterity of this powerful black king", Vol II p 87

* Black Monks in Scotland, Vol II p 291

* P 272 ,The black races of Scotland , Vol I
* P 116,about the ancestors of the McLeod : "from Leod,son to the Black prince of Man", Vol I

etc, etc

These 2 books are very embarrassing (with skeletal evidence , analyzed by Pr Huxley a scholar of that time) for Euronuts : Black Danes, Black Celts, Black Vikings,Black Huns,Black Druids,Black Hungarians,Black (Kara) Tartars of Genghis Khan, the Black Moors of Great Britain in General...

None of that is in the work.

See this thread -

http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=15;t=005328

MacRitchies' ''black race'' is Melanochroi (Mediterranid) and Australoid, not Negroid.

Afrocentric retards diliberately distort his racial typology and views.

You dumb pot of piss, there is solid archeological, genetic and historical evidence of (black) African presence in Britain.


Show you are retarded, tell me I never showed you any. It's in the same thread.

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Just added -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Winchell

And here's his racial origin chart from my photobucket -

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Such pseudo b.s. incredible! lol
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quote:
Originally posted by cassiterides:
quote:
Originally posted by funkcity1000:
You make no sense. At first you attempt to claim that Aethiopes DOESN'T mean "dark skin" but "burt"(sp?)...and then you say that it does mean dark skin because "Aethiopes" was a descriptor of people with dark skin from Africa...lol

''burnt faced'' = dark skin.

To the ancient greeks and romans dark skin = burnt. They did not regard it as a natural feature, on the contrary they thought that prior to the aethiopes being burnt by helios' sky chariot that the skin of africans was light. It only became dark after being severely burnt according to the fall of phaethon myth. Look it up.

As late as Pliny the elder (natural history, 7. 4), the Romans/Greeks were still shocked and intrigued by the dark skin of the black africans. It was something they had never before as such encountered and to them it appeared very abnormal.


7. 4 -

quis enim Aethiopas antequam cerneret credidit?’’

‘‘for who believed in the Ethiopians before seeing them’’

- Europeans had never before encountered people with dark skin.

Obvious a massive blow to afrocentrism since the ancient literature is very clear ancient greeks and romans had never encountred dark people until a late stage in time and when they discovered them they could not believe their eyes at what they were seeing.

Had they not seen any dark skin before. It means they weren't well travelled, after all. lol
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quote:
Originally posted by cassiterides:
quote:
Originally posted by funkcity1000:
You make no sense. At first you attempt to claim that Aethiopes DOESN'T mean "dark skin" but "burt"(sp?)...and then you say that it does mean dark skin because "Aethiopes" was a descriptor of people with dark skin from Africa...lol

''burnt faced'' = dark skin.

To the ancient greeks and romans dark skin = burnt. baa..baaa..baaa.

Stoooopid albino boy

Black skin translated to Greek says:

MAUROS DERMA.

Mauros being black

Derma being skin.

Goosh! You are such a retard!
http://translate.google.ca/translate_t?hl=en&cp=30&gs_id=4&xhr=t&gs_upl=&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&biw=1024&bih=520&wrapid=tljp132336787960900&q=black+skin&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sl=en& tl=el&sa=X&ei=uf3gTv-_LMj00gG6raj2Dw&sqi=2&ved=0CCQQrgYwAA#

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quote:
Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:
Originally posted by cassiterides:
quote:
Originally posted by funkcity1000:
You make no sense. At first you attempt to claim that Aethiopes DOESN'T mean "dark skin" but "burt"(sp?)...and then you say that it does mean dark skin because "Aethiopes" was a descriptor of people with dark skin from Africa...lol

''burnt faced'' = dark skin.

To the ancient greeks and romans dark skin = burnt. baa..baaa..baaa.

Stoooopid albino boy

Black skin translated to Greek says:

MAUROS DERMA.

Mauros being black

Derma being skin.

Goosh! You are such a retard!
http://translate.google.ca/translate_t?hl=en&cp=30&gs_id=4&xhr=t&gs_upl=&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&biw=1024&bih=520&wrapid=tljp132336787960900&q=black+skin&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sl=en& tl=el&sa=X&ei=uf3gTv-_LMj00gG6raj2Dw&sqi=2&ved=0CCQQrgYwAA#

And aitho actually means HOT .
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Some uninformed person wrote:

the ancient literature is very clear ancient greeks and romans had never encountred dark people until a late stage in time.


THE ANCIENT GREEKS WERE BLACK

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MAC DHUBHICH, OR MAC DUFFS.

Dubh, the bh having the sound of f or v, is the term in Gaelic descriptive of a black or dark coloured man, and all those are of this clan refer to Mac Duff, the powerful Thane of Fife, who overthrew Mac Beth in 1056, as their common ancestor; but the first Thane was created anno 838.

-THE CLANS OF THE SCOTTISH HIGHLANDS(1980) by R.R. McIan(ISBN 0-394-51171-9)
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perhaps the Etruscans are representative of the "Mediterranean" race...

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkY93OPh77w&feature=related

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Model of hut village on the Palatine, Rome 8th - 7th centuries BC
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according to Iron Mike Edwards-Codfried I
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quote:
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[QB] perhaps the Etruscans are representative of the "Mediterranean" race...

Yes. The Mediterranean subrace is Caucasoid.
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a person trying to make much of the black world white (claiming many groups of blacks are not black) writes:

The Mediterranean subrace is Caucasoid.

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The Faker exposed- part 11
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^You claim Vanessa Williams is a black woman when her heritage is white welsh and native american

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But when Marc Washingrton smoked him out, and the
actual facts were checked, Cassifaker is lying
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1354054/Vanessa-Williamss-ancestry-revealed-Who-Do-You-Think-You-Are.html
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^ Eurafrican is Caucasoid.




^^You are once again exposed. You said EurAfrican
is Caucasoid, and cited Serti in support. But using
your own citation any reader can see that Sergi
considers EurAfricans to be an amalgamation or mixture
of many types, directly contradicting your claim.

SErgi says: QUOTE:

"This human species, with cranial and facial characters thus well determined,
I call Eurafrican; and this because, having had its origin in Africa, where it
is still represented by many peoples, it has been diffused from prehistoric times
in Europe... The Eurafrican species thus falls into three races: the African,
with red-brown and black pigmentation.. Thus the Mediterranean stock is a race
or variety of the Eurafrican species."

--G. Sergi

You have again failed and are once again exposed.
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THE FAKER EXPOSED PART 9- HE CLAIMS ALL THESE HIGGINS "DISTORTIONS"
BUT WHEN ASKED TO NAME THE SPECIFIC WEBSITES OF THIS ALLEGED
"AFROCENTRIC' HORROR, HE RUNS AWAY. WHY IS THAT FAKER?


In fact, Godfrey Higgins ALSO says this about "negroes"

"I believe all the Blavk bambinos of Italy are negroes- not merely blacks;
this admitted, it would prove they very early date of their entrance into Italy." pg 286
pg 434
"the ancient Eturians had the countenances of Negroes, the same as the images of Buddah in INdia." pg 166
pg 474- "They aere in fact, all one nation, with one religion, that of Buddah, and they were originally NEgroes"
pg 59: "nor can it be reasonably doubted, that a race of Negroes formerly had power and pre-eminence in India"
pg 59- AS TO ETHIOPIA: And it is probable that an Ethiopian, a negro, correctly speaking, may have been meant, not merely a black person; and it seems probable that the following may have ben the real fact, viz, that a race of NEgroes or Blacks, but probably of the former, came to India to the west."

cASSIRETEDES own source debunks him. Note the footnote by
his own author- QUOTE: ['i]"may not have been
Negroes, though Blacks, though it is probably
they were so."[/i]

His own source says they may not have been Negroes
then adds: THOUGH IT IS PROBABLY THEY WERE SO."

^The Faker once again, debunks himself.
And he seems not to realize that Ethiopia is in
"sub-Saharan" Africa.. lol.. pathetic incompetent..


And he never shows these massive number of websites
"all over the internet". Like what? How many? If they
are "all over" then he should at least be able to give
direct links to 6 showing pages where the "Afrocentrics:
are "distorting" Higgins work. LEt's say what the faker
has besides hot air. Post DIRECT LINKS to 6 of
the huge number of alleged "Afrocentric" websites
where the Afrocentrics are "distorting" Higgins. SHow
how they are distorting Higgins with specific quotes
and specific context.


Watch the Faker duck and run when he is again called
on a claim, or make up yet another lie to cover his exposure...
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THE FAKER EXPOSED- part 8:

quote:


Originally posted by Cassiredes:
"Fair hair and light eyes colours are only found among Caucasoids, esp of
Europe.
"

But then, in your own thread, by your own hand,
you present a picture of an African albino that
has pale skin, light brown or hazel eyes and fair
hair. You said it was impossible, but then debunk
yourself with your own posted picture.. This is
like the 8-9th time you keep tripping over yourself
with lies, contradictions, and bogus claims.


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RECAP
The Faker exposed- part 7
Originally posted by Cassiredes:
"Fair hair and light eyes colours are only found among Caucasoids, esp of
Europe.
"

^^Your claim is is completely bogus. Native
diversity or albinism causes some tropical Africans
to have light eyes and light hair. You fail againn..

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THE FAKER EXPOSED: PART 6
1-- ^^Faker! In your initial posts you claimed that it
was Cavalli-Sforza talking 'bout negroes "mutating"
from Pygmies. Now in your "corrected" post,
YOU STILL APPEAR A FAKE.
You now remove Cavalli-
Sforza's name on the "mutant" claim, admitting that
you were lying all along!
Bwa ha aha
a hah a ha ahahaha aha ahah..


2-- Second point- Peter Frost is debunked by Cavalli-Sforza
who says as to his so-called "mutation" theory:

QUOTE:

"It remains difficult to pinpoint an ancient place
of origin for the Negroid type which includes all
West, Central and South Africans. Contrary to many
earlier opinions, modern Pygmies and Khosians are
not good candidates for a proto-African population."


--Cavalli Sforza et al, 1994. The history and geography of human genes. 194

Frost mentions Cavalli-Sforza in connection with
sexual selection, and movement of some groups
from Nigeria-Cameroon to other parts of Africa.
He never says Cavalli Sforza talks bout any
"negro mutation" and in fact any mutation claim
is directly contradicted by Sforza. Sucka, you
not only lied bout Cavalli-Sforza, you lied about
your own white writer- Peter Frost, and misrepresented him.



THE FAKER EXPOSED: PART 6
CassiREDES says:
''There are then no Australoids with blonde hair past the age of about twenty''

^^LMAO! Totally fake! Credible up to date sources
note that blondism is prevalent in early life
BUT, contrary to your claim that:
"There are then no Australoids with blonde hair past the age of about twenty",
the shade of color varies. In maturity the hair
usually turns a darker brown color, but sometimes
remains blond. See:
"Gene Expression: Blonde Australian Aboriginals". Gnxp.com.
http://www.gnxp.com/blog/2005/08/blonde-australian-aboriginals.php.

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^^Here is one of your Australians over 20 years old
who does have blonde hair. YOu are caught out
spinning bogus claims AGAIN!. Bwa ha aha
a hah a ha ahahaha aha ahah..
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THE FAKER EXPOSED: PART 5a
[b]So where are these tropical african peoples
with pale white or fair skin? blonde red hair?


^^You fail again. African populations can readily produce blond
or reddish blond hair as noted by hair study author Hrdy
1978 himself, and he references Nubia as an example.
Albinism is another source of red or blond hair
in Africa, and albinism is much more prevalent in
African populations than among Europeans. Even
African Americans produce more albinos than white
Americans. (The pigmentary system: physiology and
pathophysiology- By James J. Nordlund 2006: 603)
(E. Roach and V. Miller 2004. Neurocutaneous disorders.)
QUOTE: "In general, the prevalence of albinism in
Africa is much higher, in the range of 1 in 1
100 to 1 in 3900."

So Africa can and does routinely produce red and blond hair.
All non-Africans are MORE LIMITED subsets of
ORIGINAL African diversity. THe originals
have more built-in diversity than the limited
sub-set populations. This is straight science as
noted by the quote from TIshkoff 2000.

Nor are Africans the only tropical peoples who
can produce reddish hair or blond hair. Among
Australian Aborigines, some tropical groups produce 100%
of individuals with blond hair. Melanesians can
also produce blond or reddish hair, and do so routinely.

White people have no monopoly at all on that hair
color. They merely show more of it, but even among
whites, red hair for example is minor- occurring in less than
5% of the overall European populations, mostly in
northern Europe.

So the claim that there are no tropical Africans with such
variation is once again, proved fake. You made the claim.


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THE FAKER EXPOSED: PART 4
ime and time again, you stand debunked and exposed
for falsifying claims and references. Let's recap:



Originally posted by CASSIFAKedes::
quote:

The source is Cavalli-Sforza's book on the Pygmies entitled 'African pygmies' (Academic Press, 1986).

This work shows that Negroids mutated from an ancestral pygmy population around 9,000 BC in West Africa. So the 'true' Black African today is a recent mutation. Caucasoids and Mongoloids predate them. [Wink] Negroids only migrated into other parts of Africa during the Bantu expansion or slightly earlier. Prior to them, Caucasoids inhabited North Africa and Bushmen (Capoids) to the south who were displaced by the Caucasoids from the Mediterranean around 12,000 BC.


^^A bogus reference.
Why should anyone take your word for it given
past bogus references? Quote where Cavalli-Sforza
says these so-called "negroids" "mutated" from
Pygmies. The burden of proof is on you, since you made
the claim.

While you scurry to cover your tracks with yet
more bogus claims, Cavali Sforza, in his well
known The History and Geography of Human Genes,
1994 Cavalli-Sforza summarizes his 1986 work on
Pygmies and specifically debunks the "Pygmy as ancestor"
theory held by other older writings. QUOTE:


"It remains difficult to pinpoint an ancient place
of origin for the Negroid type which includes all
West, Central and South Africans. Contrary to many
earlier opinions, modern Pygmies and Khosians are
not good candidates for a proto-African population."

--Cavalli Sforza et al, 1994. The history and geography of human genes. 194


SO much for your lying claims of "mutations" from "Pygymy" ancestors.
In short, you lied about Cavalli-Sforza, creating a falsified
claim and a bogus "supporting" reference to a claim that is
nowhere supported in his work. You are once again
exposed as yet another racist faker
You are not fooling anyone.


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THE FAKER EXPOSED-PART 3-
YOu then tried to cover up your lie with even
more bogus nformation and STILL fail


You "modified" your Cavalli Sforza claim by including
page numbers, and then changing some wording to
"adaptive radiation" hoping to divert attention
from your exposure.. lmao..

However pages 361-362 of Cavalli Sforza's 1986 book
says absolutely nothing about any Negroes "mutating" from
pygmies, nor any "adaptive radiation." It merely
discusses Pygmy history and geography. You
picked out a page at random, not knowing it can be
verified via Google Books. You were asked to provide
a direct quote but are still running. Now why is that?

""It remains difficult to pinpoint an ancient place
of origin for the Negroid type which includes all
West, Central and South Africans. Contrary to many
earlier opinions, modern Pygmies and Khosians are
not good candidates for a proto-African population."


--Cavalli Sforza et al, 1994. The history and geography of human genes. 194


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THE FAKER EXPOSED- PART 2
And Your pathetic "modification" STILL turned
out to be bogus. You then said:

"True" Black Africans appear as a recent
adaptive radiation apparently branching off from
an ancestral Pygmy population — a line of
ancestry also indicated by osteological data
(Coon 1962:651-656; Watson et al. 1996).



^^But in fact, Watson 1996 has nothing to do with
osteological data and does not even mention it. It
has to do with mtDNA.

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THE FAKER EXPOSED- PART 1C
YOU THEN PROFFERED ANOTHER FAKE CLAIM BELOW:
He says:
quote:

"Note that in the Old Testament the Danites are the only Hebrew people described as being maritime and associated with ships.."



^^Complete Nonsense. In the Old Testament, the tribe of
Zebulun is mentioned as specifically associated
with ships and maritime elements. QUOTE:

Genesis 49:13

"Zebulun will dwell at the shore of the seas;
Yea, he will be at the shore of the ships, And
his side toucheth upon Sidon. "



Cassi-Fakdes: MULTIPLE TIMES AT BAT, MULTIPLE
EXPOSURES AS A FAKE...


--fake claim that no Australian Abo over 20 is blonde

-- fake claim that NO tropical Africans have any diversity in hair, skin or eye color

-- fake Cavalli-Sforza citation

-- 2nd fake Cavalli-Sforza reference

-- Faked Watson reference

-- Faked Biblical reference

-- FAke representation of Peter Frost's work

-- Fake claim that "studies" say "egyptians were dark are not like 'light-skinned Europeans". COnveniently, the alleged study is missing..

--Fake Higgins claims

--Fake claim that Guiseppe Sergi's EurAfrican race concept is negro-free

--Fake claim that Vanessa Williams has no black ancestry but is "white and Indian"

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Deaver. Originally Duibir, from dub, black ; ir, man. A dark-complexioned man.

Duffy. Dub, black ; eac, an individual. A black person.

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According to the Irish records, the oldest people mentioned in Ireland, the Formorians, came from Africa ; and it is said that they had powerful fleets, and were distinguished for maritime enterprise. Probably the Cushite race, religion, and civilization first went to the ancient Finnic people of Britain, Gaul, and the Scandinavian countries from Spain and Africa.
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-Pre-historic nations; or, Inquiries concerning some of the great peoples and civilizatins of antiquity, and their probable relation to a still older civilization of the Ethiopians or Cushites of Arabia (1874 [c1869]) by John D. Baldwin
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In the course of his paper he observed— ' In looking over the books, he was surprised to find a statement, not one, but many, in proof of the allegation that the Irish tongue had been spoken, and was still understood, in Africa. Of these, he would mention two— one was, that an Irish-speaking person penetrated through Africa, even to Ashantee, being thoroughly understood, and the other in which an African without any European education was able to read Irish manuscripts, and to converse with Irish-speaking people in this country
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Pre-historic nations; or, Inquiries concerning some of the great peoples and civilizatins of antiquity, and their probable relation to a still older civilization of the Ethiopians or Cushites of Arabia (1874 [c1869]) by John D. Baldwin
A good text. Please check pages 58-59:

''Careful students of antiquity now point out that the people of Ethiopia seem to have been of the caucasian race, meaning white men.''

So once again, i would like to know how this text helps your potty afrocentrism.

Are you now agreeing the Cushites were white?

The Cushitic race as Baldwin discovered was Caucasoid. Its Arabid, falling under the Mediterranean division. Baldwin shows that the Cushites are Arabians, not Africans.

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I presume this is what you would call ''albino''? [Roll Eyes]

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Pre-historic nations; or, Inquiries concerning some of the great peoples and civilizatins of antiquity, and their probable relation to a still older civilization of the Ethiopians or Cushites of Arabia (1874 [c1869]) by John D. Baldwin
A good text. Please check pages 58-59:

''Careful students of antiquity now point out that the people of Ethiopia seem to have been of the caucasian race, meaning white men.''

So once again, i would like to know how this text helps your potty afrocentrism.

Are you now agreeing the Cushites were white?

The Cushitic race as Baldwin discovered was Caucasoid. Its Arabid, falling under the Mediterranean division. Baldwin shows that the Cushites are Arabians, not Africans.

Arabid phenotype -

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I presume this is what you would call ''albino''? [Roll Eyes]

meaning they were actually "black skinned" members of the "white race"(ie. caucasian)...

Here are examples of the surviving members of the 'caucasoid white race'...a race that is "extinct" and replaced by an "intermediate" race that is 60% "caucasoid" and 40% "negroid"...lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23-Dk9SA9V4

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afar_people

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you forgot what Baldwin mentioned earlier...

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In the early traditions and literary records of the Greeks, Arabia is described as Ethiopia; and this name was applied to other regions occupied or controlled by the Arabian Cushites. In modern times, it has commonly been assumed, without proper inquiry, that the Ethiopians were of course Africans.

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