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Neferefre
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quote:
Originally posted by asante-Korton:
http://fstdt.com/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=77098

Even his white friends cant believe how dumb this guy is

One of the comments
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ergo

Typically, when people don't know what the **** they're talking about they will either admit ignorance and just don't say anything. This idiot decided to keep talking while showing everyone he doesn't know what the **** he's talking about.

sounds familiar doesn't it
LOL! Seriously why do you all debate this dummy. He or She is stuck on stupid. He or She see the world with racist eyes, already has its mind made up. " Don't argue with fools, because from a distant you can't tell who is who." Even his own kin call him a dummy.
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For the few here that don't know any better, take a look:
http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/indian-face-whitening-cream.html
Showroom > "indian face whitening cream": 473 Products found

Who doesn't know that INDIANS ARE SOME AH DI BIGGEST BLEACHERS!

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PLEASE NOTE THE PICTURE ABOVE SAYS: ASIAN AND ARABIC SKIN (the 'Arabs' dem are bleaching too)...

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smh [Frown]

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quote:
Originally posted by TruthAndRights:
For the few here that don't know any better, take a look:
http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/indian-face-whitening-cream.html
Showroom > "indian face whitening cream": 473 Products found

Who doesn't know that INDIANS ARE SOME AH DI BIGGEST BLEACHERS!

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PLEASE NOTE THE PICTURE ABOVE SAYS: ASIAN AND ARABIC SKIN (the 'Arabs' dem are bleaching too)...

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smh [Frown]

Its a dam shame, the lengths people go, when they lose a sense of self. The white social construct is bleeding the world of all its purity
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"Pure white evolution led to Neanderthals both
in terms of paler skin and cold-adaptive limb proportions.
African evolution led to anatomically modern
humans.



QUOTE:
"What was different about the Neanderthals?
What did the Cro- Magnons think when they saw
them for the first time? To begin with, the
Neanderthals were very light-skinned and the Cro-
Magnons were less so. "

--Juan Luis Arsuaga, Andy Klatt. 2004. The Neanderthal's
Necklace: In Search of the First Thinkers

"This finding suggests that Neanderthals evolved
a functional variant of the MC1R gene independently
from modern humans as they dispersed into northerly
latitudes, and thus supports the inference for the
convergent evolution of depigmented skin in the
Neanderthals lineage.."

--Michael P. Muehlenbein. 2010. Human Evolutionary Biology

"Regarding environmental buffering, Trinkaus
(1986 and this volume) reiterates that while
Neanderthal limb proportions are suggestive of
cold adaptation, no such indications are shown by
Eurasian early modern humans. Their distinct
limb proportions are instead indicative of an
equatorial ancestry and better culturally based
thermal protection.. the limb proportions of the
Eurasian early modern samples are retentions of
the African ancestral morphology of long limbs
with long distal segments.."

-- Erik Trinkaus (ed), 'The Emergence of Modern Humans", (C. Stringer p. 88).
School of American Research, Santa Fe, New Mexico, 1989.


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Modern scholarship shows a great 3-way evolutionary
split in hominid lineages s several hundred thousand years ago.
European hominids evolved into Neanderthals. Asians into Homo Erectus.
Africans went on to evolve into today's advanced anatomically modern humans.


QUOTE:
"Following the initial Out-of-Africa event, natural selection and
random genetic drift began to drive populations in Africa,
Europe, and eastern Asia in different morphological directions.
Morphological differentiation was particularly clear by 500,000–400,000
years ago, and from this time onwards, there were at least three
evolving human lineages. These may always have been able to
exchange genes, but distance and small population size probably
limited gene flow, and the composite fossil and archeological
records indicate that the African lineage spread to replace or
swamp the others beginning roughly 50,000 years ago. It is thus r
easonable to supply the lineages with biological species labels:
Homo sapiens in Africa, Homo neanderthalensis in Europe, and
Homo erectus in the eastern Asia.

.. Many details of Out-of-Africa remain to be worked out, and
disagreement persists, for example, on the extent to which
dispersing modern Africans and archaic Eurasians may have
interbred and especially on what promoted the relatively sudden
Out-of-Africa expansion. Most authorities attribute the expansion to
behavioral changes that conferred a substantial Darwinian fitness
advantage, that is, that allowed modern humans of African descent t
o survive and reproduce at a significantly higher rate than the archaic
humans they encountered in Eurasia. "


-- Richard G. Klein. 2009. Darwin and the recent African origin of modern humas
Proc Natl Acad Sci U S A. 2009 September 22; 106(38): 16007–16009.


Some white "Racial Reality" or "biodiversity" proponents
argue for European descent from NEanderthals "untainted"
by Africa- a lily white "pure" line of white evolution.

Fine. Lets go with their approach for a moment.

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Using the biodiversity approacht, we see then that the first whites were cold-adapted
Neanderthals that failed to progress beyond the Stone Age
despite a sometimes favorable environment with
rich resources available (Lewin 1994). Ice Age Europe was not
a cold hell but had variable climate and rich forest,
woodland and aquatic resources, including ancient
variants of wheat-like spelt and chick peas in place
that could have been domesticated, along with ancestors
of sheep, cattle and pigs, and a favorable East-West
climatic axis that could have aided domestication.
Despite tens of thousands of years with these advantages
and resources however, white lineages failed to move
beyond the Stone Age.

Thus, using the "biodiversity" approach, the first
great "racial" split in the humanoid line involved
white Neanderthals who colonized Europe, and Africans,
who colonized Africa and went on to become anatomically
modern humans.

The first “pure” white genetic output was thus
brutish, primitive, dead end Neanderthals. By
contrast, it was Africa that produced the future
of humanity- anatomically modern humans, not
cold-climate Europe. White NEanderthals survived,
until they were supplanted by more advanced, modern
tropically adapted humans from Africa that mingled
with and replaced them. This would be the first instance
of the hybridization that produced today's white Europeans.
It was the coming of tropically adapted African variants into
Europe that caused Europe to progress beyond the brutish
“pure” white Neanderthal lineages. Continuing migrations
from Africa and a mixture of African and Asian
OOA migrants- all anatomically modern humans- caused
a second round of mixed breeding in EUrope, and was
to eventually replace the pure white Neanderthal
lineages to yield today's European hybrid population.
QUOTE:

^^"There is wide agreement on a speciation event in Africa at around 0.8 or 0.9 mya when
Homo erectus (or Homo ergaster) gave rise to a species named Homo heidelbergensis,
or Homo rhodesiensis, or Homo sapiens. The new species expanded into Europe leading
to the Neanderthal lineage, whereas in Africa it evolved into anatomically modern
humans. The lineage of anatomical modernization can be subdivided into three groups,
morphs, or grades: an early one including Bodo, Saldanha, Kabwe, Salé, a subsequent
one including Florisbad, Laetoli H 18, Ileret (ER 3884), Jebel Irhoud, and early
anatomically moderns with Omo Kibish, Herto and others."

--Günter Bräuer, "Middle Pleistocene
Diversity in Africa and the Origin of Modern
Humans". IN:
Modern Origins: A North African Perspective. 2012.
Series: Vertebrate Paleobiology and Paleoanthropology
Hublin, Jean-Jacques; McPherron, Shannon P. (Eds.)

And

” Holliday (2000) examined postcranial morphology
of the varied Levantine hominids from Qafzeh and
Skhul(anatomically modern) and from Amud, Kebara
and Tabun (Neanderthal). He determined that they
were morphologically distinct; the anatomically
moderns had tropically adapted body proportions,
suggesting African origins, while the Neanderthals
had cold adapted body proportions, suggesting European origins.”

--Holliday 2000

This then could be another source of the Eurocentric
inferiority complex. Pure white genetics produced only
the savage Neanderthals. Africa by contrast, produced
a better, more advanced human than white lineages.
Today's whites still show some traces of Neanderthal
genes, a throwback to their savage evolution. Some
white writers argue that this Neanderthal remnant,
could account for the white penchant for violence
and murder. R. Bradley, advances this this theory
in "The Iceman Inheritance."

So under this biodiversity approach, why then
didn't pure white Europeans stay as NEanderthals?
According to Bradley, they were replaced with the more
advanced Africans and Asians. This diluted the savage
white NEanderthal lineages, producing a better level
of humanity. However the violent, savage nature of
whites still remains, due to remnants of Neanderthal genes.
Recent scientific findings showing European whites
have traces of Neanderthal genes have been used by
some claimants to support the Iceman theory. Some
disagree with Bradley. Others argue that his theory of white
ice age adaptation is true. Racial "biodiversity"
proponents share general agreement along a spectrum
with its central holding of pure white evolutionary
lineages, "untainted" by "negro blood."


White European lineages [Neanderthals] were the first humans to engage in cannibalism

"Cannibalism is a good example. Several Mousterian sites,
along which Moula-Guercy (France) stands out, have provided
reasonably firm evidence of anthropic action on Neanderthal
bones.. Defleur and colleagues (1999) compared the patters of
ungulate and Neanderthal bones, the skeletal parts that were
found and the tool marks on the bone fragments. They concluded
that all the fragments with marks indicate prey that had been subject
to butchery. This suggests that cannibalistic oractices existed among
the Neanderthals.. But the question of cannibalism can be understood
in another way. When Wolpoff was asked about the meaning of the
evidence found at Moula-Guercy, he replied with a question: why
should modern humans be the only violent ones? Arsuaga went even
further in believing that Neanderthal cannibalistic behavior actually
constituted a very human behavior, which revealed a human mind
(Both cited by Culotta, 1999). "

--Camilo J. Cela-Conde, Francisco José Ayala, 2007. Human evolution: trails from the past.


"But recent excavation by Alban Delfeur and Tim White at the
100,000 year old French cave of Moula-Guercy has demonstrated
cannibalism beyond any reasonable doubt. The site contains butchered
animal remains, predominantly red deer. Among the bones are the skulls
of two young Neanderthals, their masseter muscles filleted and the tongue
removed from at least one of them; the cut marks on the inner face of the
mandible are virtually identical with those mode on the inside of the
12,5000-year-old modern human mandible from Gough's (New) Cave,
[England] described in Chapter 3 (see p. 80). Crania of both deer and
Neanderthals were broken open to get at the marrow.."

--Timothy Taylor. 2005. The Buried Soul: How Humans Invented Death


[b]Pure white lineages failed to move beyond the stone Age in Europe,
despite the supposed greater ":challenges" of "cold climate" "evolution."

QUOTE:
[i]The last Ice Age was by no means a period of unrelieved cold,
millennium after millennium. Temperatures fluctuated, sometimes
coming close to today's balmy interglacial climes, and the animal
and plant communities fluctuated in concert with them. Warmer climes
brought woodland and forest where only open grassland had existed
previously. At the same time, the horses and bison- animals of the
plains, were replaced with red deer, wild boar and other confines
of a forest habitat..

".. Opportunities for cultivation and animal husbandry surely existed
earlier than the Neolithic. Yet no evidence has emerged that any plant
or animal domestication occurred before this time.."
-- Lewin, Roger (1988). In the Age of Mankind. Smithsonian. pp. 193

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Note: I am not an "Egyptologist" as claimed by some still bitter, defeated, trolls creating fake profiles and posts elsewhere. Hapless losers, you still fail. My output of hard data debunking racist nonsense has actually INCREASED since you began..

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Where are you casselrides....It it too much for you,Now we are getting light skin people from India,Bleach please. How sad that people hate themselves and their skin color just to be part
of the mixed hybrid world of european nuts.

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quote:
Originally posted by GOMTUU:
Where are you casselrides....It it too much for you,Now we are getting light skin people from India,Bleach please. How sad that people hate themselves and their skin color just to be part
of the mixed hybrid world of european nuts.

him run gone  - like most mangy curr when dem get ah good kick tuh dem rass....
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quote:
Originally posted by Hersi_Yusuf:
quote:
it doesn't help when idiots like yourself make stupid threads like this
@asante-korton


No need for the hostility i'm new to these forums and I just wanted to ask a question I had no idea it would turn into this.

you know that race doesn't exist yet you still asked a question on whether it did? im sorry but that is just plain stupid
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quote:
you know that race doesn't exist yet you still asked a question on whether it did? im sorry but that is just plain stupid
first I was wondering that if all africans are gentically closer to each other annd have mostly the same features shouldn't that be classified as race.

Besides i said forgive for any unintentional stupidty.

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I have a question ,does this chart clusters Native Americans, Oceanic people and East Asians the FURTHEST away from Africans because they do not have African markers? http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/8458/eurohybridstext.jpg
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quote:
Originally posted by cassiterides:
quote:
simple mind, let's get a bit deeper, how did Europeans got white?lol
Caucasoids and Mongoloids evolved their bone structure through the Eurasian environment (which caused greater sexual selection) which also changed their diet. It's also why they have higher intelligence.

Negroids in contrast have retained very primitive, bestial features - especially in the face. This isn't racism, its just anthropology. I could give you tuns and tuns and data, but you would just reject it. Truth is though, you know i'm right. Based on your picture spams, i can see you admit Caucasoid traits (thinner noses, wavy-straight hair) are the most attractive. Have you noticed that Truthandright's threads on ''black beauty'' get no replies?

The above reply was apparently written under lioness'
account, but note the typical "Abaza" style- quote:
"Negroids in contrast have retained very primitive,
bestial features.."

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quote:
Originally posted by xyyman:
What is clear there is confusion on WHEN humans became depigmented. Dr. Wells proposes 40ky. Jablonski proposes about 6-12kya. Clearly there is disagreement among white scholars. There is also disagreement on WHY and HOW.

In others words they do NOT know. But as I said many times. I am with Dr. Mekova, Kittles(current)etc.

It is also clear the Steppes played an important part.

BTW - we know now that cited study(above) is outdated. SLCA45 is just ONE of many genes that interact to produce depigementation .. . or pigmentation.

Original albinism did not occur naturally by selection.
If it did, it was due to some extraordinary environmental change such as what Dr. Winters has proposed, I.E, Long term subterranean dwelling, or hundreds of years living in a deep dark cave.

One thing is certain and that is the Vitamin D nonsense is pure BS.
Blacks have been living in UK, US, and Europe for many hundreds of years, yet they have not lost their pigment and acquire Vitamin D in these environments just fine.

OCA originates from Africa, which strongly suggests the mutation is the result of some extraordinary past cosmic event (Massive Solar flare, Meteor impact, etc) with energy released that exceeded the maximum radiation threshold of DNA's melanin protection shell.
African history probably had verbal records of such an event, but unfortunately verbal recording of history is a piss poor method of long term storage.

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quote:
Originally posted by zarahan- aka Enrique Cardova:
quote:
Originally posted by cassiterides:
quote:
simple mind, let's get a bit deeper, how did Europeans got white?lol
Caucasoids and Mongoloids evolved their bone structure through the Eurasian environment (which caused greater sexual selection) which also changed their diet. It's also why they have higher intelligence.

Negroids in contrast have retained very primitive, bestial features - especially in the face. This isn't racism, its just anthropology. I could give you tuns and tuns and data, but you would just reject it. Truth is though, you know i'm right. Based on your picture spams, i can see you admit Caucasoid traits (thinner noses, wavy-straight hair) are the most attractive. Have you noticed that Truthandright's threads on ''black beauty'' get no replies?

The above reply was apparently written under lioness'
account, but note the typical "Abaza" style- quote:
"Negroids in contrast have retained very primitive,
bestial features.."

No it's not written under my account

my only account is
the lioness,

The above is written under an account called

_______________

the lioness is a guy IRL

Member
Member # 18409

______________

^^^ not my account obviously


If somebody made an account called " zarahan is a homo"
is it a good assumption that you made it or is it a good assumption that somebody else made it?

Go to posts made by "the lioness is a guy IRL "

http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=recent_user_posts;u=00018409


If you see somebody quoting "cass" look at the source of remark.
It's under "the lioness is a guy IRL "

that means originally the post was made by cass
and he changed his member name to "the lioness is a guy IRL "

That was when cassisertides returned briefly as "cass" but was using his old account the was originally the ful name "Cassisertides"

Around that time I made a thread detailing all the old cassertides aka Anglo_pyramidologist aliases

He got mad and changed his cassidertides account to
"the lioness is a guy IRL " to get revenge on me

Then months later he came back as a new name"Gor" and then quickly changed it to "Dead"
That was a new account not the old cassidertides account that he changed to "the lioness is a guy IRL "

In summary if you wnat to see all the old cassiertides posts go to
"the lioness is a guy IRL "

http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=recent_user_posts;u=00018409


You will notice there is nobody quoting "the lioness is a guy IRL "
to reply. The replies are to "cass" but you won't see cass in the thread. What happens is that the new name changes all the old threads
--BUT when people reply and they use a quote from the member who changed their name the name remains the same because they own the post not the person who is quoted.

And no cass aka Dead aka Anglo_Pyramidologist is not ABAZA


Dead, cass and Anglo_Pyramidologist are all the same person

The cass account as I have shown is "the lioness is a guy IRL "
His other separate account is Thule

Thule

http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=recent_user_posts;u=00018853

^^^ Again, notice when a person quotes Thule it says
"Originally posted by Anglo_Pyramidologist:"

That is beacause Dead has a lot of separate accounts on ES
His cass account is now "the lioness is a guy IRL "
His Anglo_Pyramidologist account is now Thule

Take a note of this

and stop the " I think he may be ABAZA"
or the " I think he may be White Nubian"

He has other names as well but not those
So please don't start rumors without proof
I looked into those people, they are not him

____________________________

Finally cass' newer account "Dead" he renamed "Deleted Account"
(originally "Gor" )

http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=recent_user_posts;u=00021978;filter=topics

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