quote:Originally posted by asante-Korton: Kim kardashian is Armenian not Amerindian you idiot, she only has 6% native American DNA and 94% as you would say Caucasoid DNA
Only her ancestry on her fathers side is Armenian. Secondly 6% is high admixture.
It only takes a very small % to alter someone's phenotype. Kim is phenotypically not Caucasoid, her bone structure, especially in the face looks Mongoloid. This has been discussed all over the net on most anthropology forums.
No anthro forum i have ever been on classifies Kim as Caucasoid.
6% is high admixture? Guess your ass can't have Greece and Rome or the middle east. LOL Name me a true blanco "civilization" as valued by Eurocentrism? I'll be over here waiting since you've been unable to provide a pure Europen lineage and oh this will be great, margin of admixture can't be any higher than 6%. Go ahead buddy! Good luck! You say "pure negroes" never made a "civilization" but cannot cite an example of "pure whites" being able to make one and always rely on mixed groups to show the superiority of pure European lineages. Let me make the importance of your answering question in depth clear to you. Everyone else has gotten it but you, and now its your turn: If you cannot find a pure European lineage you have no room to really say anything do you? No I think not. You cannot attribute in "mixed communities" things like "civilization" and "intellect" as a by product of their Euro heritage if you cannot prove they were frequently able to achieve these alleged things without admixture either. And we would assuming your racist theory true also need proof that not only was their "pure Euro civilization" but that these Euros fared better than mixed population. After all a pure, superior biologically lineage would by default fare better than one mixed with lesser lineages yes? Well, good luck with proving all that too. Posts: 2508 | From: . | Registered: Nov 2011
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He will also have to explain his flawed East African are 40 % caucasoid study..
Those East Africans who have 40% caucasoid admixture should be top of the league by his rules
East Africans on average score higher in IQ tests than Negroids....
West Africa Countries: 20 Studies: 15 IQ: 67
Central Africa Countries: 5 W/ Data: 3 (60% coun/80% pop) Studies: 9 IQ: 64
East Africa Countries: 8 W/ Data: 5 (63% coun/93% pop) Studies: 16 IQ: 72
- Lynn 2006
As you can see East Africans are 5-8 points higher in intelligence than pure-blooded Negroids.
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quote:Originally posted by asante-Korton: Kim kardashian is Armenian not Amerindian you idiot, she only has 6% native American DNA and 94% as you would say Caucasoid DNA
Only her ancestry on her fathers side is Armenian. Secondly 6% is high admixture.
It only takes a very small % to alter someone's phenotype. Kim is phenotypically not Caucasoid, her bone structure, especially in the face looks Mongoloid. This has been discussed all over the net on most anthropology forums.
No anthro forum i have ever been on classifies Kim as Caucasoid.
6% is high admixture? Guess your ass can't have Greece and Rome or the middle east. LOL Name me a true blanco "civilization" as valued by Eurocentrism? I'll be over here waiting since you've been unable to provide a pure Europen lineage and oh this will be great, margin of admixture can't be any higher than 6%. Go ahead buddy! Good luck! You say "pure negroes" never made a "civilization" but cannot cite an example of "pure whites" being able to make one and always rely on mixed groups to show the superiority of pure European lineages. Let me make the importance of your answering question in depth clear to you. Everyone else has gotten it but you, and now its your turn: If you cannot find a pure European lineage you have no room to really say anything do you? No I think not. You cannot attribute in "mixed communities" things like "civilization" and "intellect" as a by product of their Euro heritage if you cannot prove they were frequently able to achieve these alleged things without admixture either. And we would assuming your racist theory true also need proof that not only was their "pure Euro civilization" but that these Euros fared better than mixed population. After all a pure, superior biologically lineage would by default fare better than one mixed with lesser lineages yes? Well, good luck with proving all that too.
Negroid admixture in Europe ranges from non-existant to barely detectable.
Even in places like Portugal and Spain which are places most assume have high levels of black admixture are less than 2% Negroid. The only Negroid marker is Haplogroup E(not including E1b1b). Cruciani et al. 2004, report such lineages at 2% in Southern Portugal, 0.5% across the Mediterranean and 2.9% in Istanbul. Everywhere else has no Negroid admixture, this admixture however is modern, with the slave trade. Europe is the most homogenous continent in the world.
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^ Did you bother to read the posts above on why Nigerians/West Africans are educationally more successful than generally admixed African-Americans and UK Afro-Carribeans?
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He will also have to explain his flawed East African are 40 % caucasoid study..
Those East Africans who have 40% caucasoid admixture should be top of the league by his rules
East Africans on average score higher in IQ tests than Negroids....
West Africa Countries: 20 Studies: 15 IQ: 67
Central Africa Countries: 5 W/ Data: 3 (60% coun/80% pop) Studies: 9 IQ: 64
East Africa Countries: 8 W/ Data: 5 (63% coun/93% pop) Studies: 16 IQ: 72
- Lynn 2006
As you can see East Africans are 5-8 points higher in intelligence than pure-blooded Negroids.
Do African immigrants make the smartest Americans? The question may sound outlandish, but if you were judging by statistics alone, you could find plenty of evidence to back it up.
In a side-by-side comparison of 2000 census data by sociologist John R. Logan at the Mumford Center, State University of New York at Albany, black immigrants from Africa average the highest educational attainment of any population group in the country, including whites and Asians.
For example, 43.8 percent of African immigrants had achieved a college degree, compared to 42.5 of Asian Americans, 28.9 percent for immigrants from Europe, Russia and Canada, and 23.1 percent of the U.S. population as a whole.
That defies the usual stereotypes of Asian Americans as the only “model minority.” Yet the traditional American narrative has rendered the high academic achievements of black immigrants from Africa and the Caribbean invisible, as if it were a taboo topic.
Instead, we should take a closer look. That was my reaction in 2004 after black Harvard law professor Lani Guinier and Henry Louis Gates Jr., chairman of Harvard’s African-American studies department, stirred a black Harvard alumni reunion with questions about precisely where the university’s new black students were coming from.
About 8 percent, or 530, of Harvard’s undergraduates were black, they said, but somewhere between one-half and two-thirds of black undergraduates were “West Indian and African immigrants or their children, or to a lesser extent, children of biracial couples.”
If we take a closer look, I said then, I bet we’ll find that Harvard is not alone. With all of the ink and airwaves that have been devoted to immigration these days, black immigrants remain remarkably invisible. Yet their success has long followed the patterns of other high-achieving immigrants.
As one immigrant Jamaican friend once told me, “I’m too busy working two jobs to worry about the white man’s racism.”
Now comes a new study that finds a consistent pattern of Ivy League and other elite colleges and universities boosting their black student populations by enrolling large numbers of immigrants from Africa, the West Indies and Latin America.
Immigrants, who make up 13 percent of the nation’s college-age black population, account for more than a quarter of black students at Ivy League and other elite universities, according to the study of 28 selective colleges and universities. The authors of the study, published recently in the American Journal of Education, included Douglas S. Massey of Princeton University and Camille Z. Charles of the University of Pennsylvania. The proportion of immigrants was higher at private institutions, 28.8 percent, than at the public ones, where they comprised 23.1 percent of enrollment.
Are elite schools padding their racial diversity numbers with black immigrants who do not have a history of American slavery in their families? This development immediately calls into question whether affirmative action admission policies are fulfilling their original intent.
But as Walter Benn Michaels, a professor of English at the University of Illinois at Chicago, writes in his book “The Trouble With Diversity: How We Learned to Love Identity and Ignore Inequality,” the original intent of affirmative action morphed back in the 1970s from reparations for slavery into the promotion of a broader virtue: “diversity.” Since then, it no longer seems to matter how many of your college’s black students had slavery in their families. It only matters that they are black.
That said, I don’t begrudge black immigrants or any other high-achieving immigrants for their impressive achievements. I applaud them. I encourage more native-born American children, particularly my own child, to take similar advantage of this country’s hard-won opportunities.
But I also think we need to revisit the meaning of “diversity.” Unlike our current system of feel-good game-playing, we need to focus on the deeper question of how education can be improved and opportunities opened up to those who were left behind by the civil rights revolution.
We tend to look too often at every aspect of diversity except economic class. Yet, the dream of upward mobility is an essential part of how we Americans like to think of ourselves.
It’s also why a lot more people are trying to get into this country than trying to get out
Now explain why 43.8 percent of African immigrants had achieved a college degree and why only 28.9 percent of European, Russian and Canadian immigrants have achieved college degrees
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quote:Negroid admixture in Europe ranges from non-existant to barely detectable.
Even in places like Portugal and Spain which are places most assume have high levels of black admixture are less than 2% Negroid.
Greeks are a fourth African with Italians about 1/8th. Spain and Portugal were originally influenced by Moors. There's also Asiatic ancestry which can also be found in significant degrees in Greece and Rome even if we were to ignore the African heritage. I said find a "civilization" that had not relied upon mixed populations nor was mixed. This means just about all of modern European "civilizations" which include Spain and Portugal as they took plenty of their knowledge both philosophical and scientific from the Greeks and Romans.
quote:Europe is the most homogenous continent in the world. [/QB]
As a whole yes. This does not change however that it was heavily influenced by it's less homogenous populations if not from the outside. We won't even get into Europe's reliance on behavior like hand outs which sit contrary to their own standards for how to achieve anything. Is theft achievement? No one says a starving African child in Africa achieved anything in their wage through donations or when a black man steals your car. But let a European take out massive hand outs through pillaging the land and stealing and it's suddenly praise worthy? wtf..Europe ignoring it's own principles which makes it more questionable whether or not to attribute to them a "civilization" by their own standards. Whether it's physical resources or philosophy, math or science there have always been major contributions to the more homogenous areas of Europe via its more mixed populations as well as the Moors. Say what you will about moors not being fully black but trying to argue they were fully European would absurd. They would at the very least qualify as mixed. You get no Spain and you get no Portugal either though without Greece and Rome you're pretty much sunk anyway.
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quote:Originally posted by Oshun: Greeks are a fourth African with Italians about 1/8th.
The African E1b1b carriers who moved into Europe during the Mesolithic and Neolithic were fully Caucasoid.
Caucasoid – E (only subclade E1b1b is a Caucasoid marker, but all other sublades of E are Negroid haplomarkers).
You loose...
Negroid genetic admixture (E other than E1b1b) is non-existant in Europeans, unless you include modern admixture during the slave trade which is at its highest is only 2% in Portugal. Posts: 1575 | From: - | Registered: May 2011
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quote:Originally posted by Oshun: Greeks are a fourth African with Italians about 1/8th.
The African E1b1b carriers who moved into Europe during the Mesolithic and Neolithic were fully Caucasoid.
Caucasoid – E (only subclade E1b1b is a Caucasoid marker, but all other sublades of E are Negroid haplomarkers).
You loose...
Negroid genetic admixture (E other than E1b1b) is non-existant in Europeans, unless you include modern admixture during the slave trade which is at its highest is only 2% in Portugal.
Wells says. "Race, in terms of deep-seated biological differences, doesn't exist scientifically. We are 99.9 per cent identical roughly, at the genetic level. That's actually a remarkably low level of genetic diversity compared to other species of large primates. It represents a population bottleneck event some 70,000 years ago when the population dropped down to as few as 2,000 people. We came back from that, and our genome reflects that."
Greeks are a fourth African with Italians about 1/8th. Spain and Portugal were originally influenced by Moors. There's also Asiatic ancestry which can also be found in significant degrees in Greece and Rome even if we were to ignore the African heritage.
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The African E1b1b carriers who moved into Europe during the Mesolithic and Neolithic were fully Caucasoid.
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The time has come to ask:"negroes,why do you insist on arguing with this delirious individual???" Its like debating a doorknob!
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''Sub-Saharan Africans belong to subclades of E other than E1b1b, while most non-Africans who belong to haplogroup E belong to its E1b1b subclade.” - Fulvio Cruciani et al, Phylogeographic Analysis of Haplogroup E1b1b (E-M215) Y Chromosomes Reveals Multiple Migratory Events Within and Out Of Africa, Am. J. Hum. Genet, p. 74)
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quote:Originally posted by kikuyu22: The African E1b1b carriers who moved into Europe during the Mesolithic and Neolithic were fully Caucasoid.
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The time has come to ask:"negroes,why do you insist on arguing with this delirious individual???" Its like debating a doorknob!
"Frigi et al.(2010) suggest these possibilities as factors in their consideration of the asymmetric assimilation of females of non-African origin into Berber-speaking populations whose males currently have a predominance of lineages defined by the African M35/81 biallelic marker.
Quote; whose males currently have a predominance of lineages defined by the African M35/81 biallelic marker.
Predominance of lineages defined by "the African M35/81 biallelic marker."
It is interesting that these “non-African”mtDNA lineages are usually predominant while being diverse (Coudray et al. 2009; Fadhlaoui-Zid et al. 2004; Khodjet-el-Khil et al. 2008).
A history of the Maghrib in the Islamic period
By Jamil M. Abun-Nasr
Cambridge University Press, 1987 - page 5.
..."it is important to bear in mind that over the centuries the Maghreb has been a melting-pot of many other ethnic groups and cultures"
"We conclude that the origins and maternal diversity of Berber populations are old and complex, and these communities bear genetic characteristics resulting from various events of gene flow with surrounding and migrating populations."
"The Berber tribes were far removed from each other and this was one reason why Morocco was often invaded".....
1807, from Caucasus Mountains, between the Black and Caspian seas; applied to the "white" race 1795 (in Ger.) by Ger. anthropologist Johann Blumenbach, because their supposed ancestral homeland lay there; since abandoned as a historical/anthropological term. Lit. meaning "resident or native of the Caucasus" is from 1843.
The mountain range name is from Gk. kaukhasis, said by Pliny ("Natural History," book six, chap. XVII) to be from a Scythian word similar to kroy-khasis, lit. "(the mountain) ice-shining, white with snow." But possibly from a Pelasgian root *kau- meaning "mountain."
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quote:Originally posted by Anglo_Pyramidologist: E1b1b is not Negroid.
Read it an weep -
''Sub-Saharan Africans belong to subclades of E other than E1b1b, while most non-Africans who belong to haplogroup E belong to its E1b1b subclade.” - Fulvio Cruciani et al, Phylogeographic Analysis of Haplogroup E1b1b (E-M215) Y Chromosomes Reveals Multiple Migratory Events Within and Out Of Africa, Am. J. Hum. Genet, p. 74)
Bwa ha aha aha ahahah. you pathetic dolt, and a stinking liar as well. Cruciani's article is available online. It does not have the bogus "quote" you doctored above. Anyone can verify it here: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1181964/?tool=pubmed
You simply made up the quote and threw in a citation like the pitiful buffoon you are, not knowing the article has been posted and discussed numerous times here on ES.
You are so pathetic now you are making up quotes. HEre is what Cruciana actually says: "The three main subclades of haplogroup E3b (E-M78, E-M81, and E-M34) and the paragroup E-M35* are not homogeneously distributed on the African continent: E-M78 has been observed in both northern and eastern Africa, E-M81 is restricted t o northern Africa, E-M34 is common only in eastern Africa, and E-M35* is shared by eastern and southern Africans (Cruciani et al. 2002)" --Cruciani What a retard you are. But that's nothing new. LEt's recap shall we- ONE MORE FOR THE ROAD:
THE FAKER'S BOGUS QUOTES AND CITATIONS - PART 16
quote:Originally posted by Anglo_Pyramidologist/Cassiterides: posted 28 February, 2012 02:52 AM [QB] E1b1b is not Negroid.
Read it an weep -
''Sub-Saharan Africans belong to subclades of E other than E1b1b, while most non-Africans who belong to haplogroup E belong to its E1b1b subclade.” - Fulvio Cruciani et al, Phylogeographic Analysis of Haplogroup E1b1b (E-M215) Y Chromosomes Reveals Multiple Migratory Events Within and Out Of Africa, Am. J. Hum. Genet, p. 74)
The dumb faker doctored the quote, not knowing the article has been much discussed at ES. Testifying even more to his incompetence, Cruciani actually does show E3b or E1b1b occurring in numerous places within "sub-Saharan" Africa. Quote: "The three main subclades of haplogroup E3b (E-M78, E-M81, and E-M34) and the paragroup E-M35* are not homogeneously distributed on the African continent: E-M78 has been observed in both northern and eastern Africa, E-M81 is restricted t o northern Africa, E-M34 is common only in eastern Africa, and E-M35* is shared by eastern and southern Africans (Cruciani et al. 2002)" --Cruciani
THE FAKER AND BUFFOON IS AGAIN BUSTED IN A LIE!
THE FAKER'S BOGUS CLAIM PART- 15 - QUOTE: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Anglo-Pyr/Cassiterides: posted 14 January, 2012 11:41 AM If you are a white heterosexual male in Britain you have virtually zero chance of getting a job. All the jobs go to blacks or other immigrants.
^^LOL - Idiotic nonsense. As of 2001, 92.1% of the UK population identified themselves as White, leaving 7.9%[270] of the UK population identifying themselves as mixed race or of an ethnic minority. The population of the United Kingdom in the 2001 census was 58,789,194, UK Office for National Statistics- 2001.
That leaves approx 54 million white people. About 33% of that population were adult men. Let's take away 8% or so for minorities. So you are saying then that 25% of the approx 54 million white people in the UK are all unemployed? Damn you are dumb, but you only expose the bankruptcy of your racism.
The Fake C-Ass -Hole exposed PART 14 - BOGUS "NORDIC BLONDS FLITTING AROUND EGYPT
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Anglo-Pyr/Cassiterides: posted 29 December, 2011 06:05 AM
Hetepheres II was a blonde
^^Hapless dullard, you are exposed in another lie. Your own reference was checked. It yielded detailed citations which revealed a quite different story. Scholars say in the mainstream Cambridge Ancient History:
"We must give up the idea that she was of Libyan origin, an attractive theory which was based on blond hair of Hetepheres II, who was then thought to be her daughter. It is now evident that the yellow wig is part of a costume worn b other great ladies." --I. Edwards, C. Gadd, N. Hammond. 1971. The Cambridge Ancient History. 3ed Volume 1, Part 2, Early History of the Middle East
Yet another history says: "The walls of this interior room are decorated with hunting and fishing scenes, including a charming image of Meresankh and her mother, Hetepheres II picking lotus flowers from the river.. The pillars have images of Meresankh wearing a blond wig." --P. Lacovara. 2004. The pyramids and the SPhinx: tombs and temples of GIza
THE FAKER EXPOSED- PART 13- HIS BOGUS CLAIM OF "NORDIC" EGYPTIAN ROYALTY
quote:Originally posted by Anglo-Pyr/Cassiterides: posted 28 December, 2011 05:40 PM Early dynastic & old kingdom royalty was Nordic (blonde and fair skinned)
^^^Ha hahahahah you stupid mass of camel vomit! Up above you reference scholar Frank Yurco, but here is what Yurco said about the 12th Dynasty, debunking your claim of "Nordic" Egyptian royalty. You dumbass.... You are again debunked, with your own "supporting" references... lmao...
"the XIIth Dynasty (1991-1786 B.C.E.) originated from the Aswan region.4 As expected, strong Nubian features and dark coloring are seen in their sculpture and relief work. This dynasty ranks as among the greatest, whose fame far outlived its actual tenure on the throne... Because the Egyptian rulers of Nubian ancestry had become Egyptians culturally; as pharaohs, they exhibited typical Egyptian attitudes and adopted typical Egyptian policies."
- (F. J. Yurco, 'Were the ancient Egyptians black or white?', Biblical Archaeology Review (Vol 15, no. 5, 1989)
THE FAKER EXPOSED- PART 12 HE says Egyptologists like Frank Yurco says the Egyptians were "Caucasoid" --- "Virtually every egyptologist believes the egyptians were Caucasoid" --
BUt Yurco says nothing of the sort.. Here for example, is what he says about the 12the Dynasty rulers aho were Nubian descent: They seem really "Caucasoid"... yeah, right.. - quote-
"the XIIth Dynasty (1991-1786 B.C.E.) originated from the Aswan region.4 As expected, strong Nubian features and dark coloring are seen in their sculpture and relief work. This dynasty ranks as among the greatest, whose fame far outlived its actual tenure on the throne... Because the Egyptian rulers of Nubian ancestry had become Egyptians culturally; as pharaohs, they exhibited typical Egyptian attitudes and adopted typical Egyptian policies."
- (F. J. Yurco, 'Were the ancient Egyptians black or white?', Biblical Archaeology Review (Vol 15, no. 5, 1989) -
Another dodge is to twist an old chat/forum discussion statement by conservative Egyptologist Frank Yurco out of context. Yurco rejected those who "a priori" claimed the Egyptians were "black", that is, a dogmatic claim without presenting empirical evidence. He never rejected reasonable argument with data showing the Egyptians were an indigenous African population -QUOTE: .. basically a homogeneous African population had lived in the Nile Valley from ancient to modern times.. (Yurco 1996- An Egyptological Review, in Black Athena Revisited)
The Faker exposed- part 11
quote: Originally posted by Anglo-Pyr/Cassiterides: ^You claim Vanessa Williams is a black woman when her heritage is white welsh and native american
quote:Originally posted by Anglo-Pyr/Cassiterides: ^ Eurafrican is Caucasoid.
^^You are once again exposed. You said EurAfrican is Caucasoid, and cited Serti in support. But using your own citation any reader can see that Sergi considers EurAfricans to be an amalgamation or mixture of many types, directly contradicting your claim.
SErgi says: QUOTE: "This human species, with cranial and facial characters thus well determined, I call Eurafrican; and this because, having had its origin in Africa, where it is still represented by many peoples, it has been diffused from prehistoric times in Europe... The Eurafrican species thus falls into three races: the African, with red-brown and black pigmentation.. Thus the Mediterranean stock is a race or variety of the Eurafrican species." --G. Sergi
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THE FAKER EXPOSED PART 9- HE CLAIMS ALL THESE HIGGINS "DISTORTIONS" BUT WHEN ASKED TO NAME THE SPECIFIC WEBSITES OF THIS ALLEGED "AFROCENTRIC' HORROR, HE RUNS AWAY. WHY IS THAT FAKER?
In fact, Godfrey Higgins ALSO says this about "negroes"
quote: "I believe all the Blavk bambinos of Italy are negroes- not merely blacks; this admitted, it would prove they very early date of their entrance into Italy." pg 286 pg 434 "the ancient Eturians had the countenances of Negroes, the same as the images of Buddah in INdia." pg 166 pg 474- "They aere in fact, all one nation, with one religion, that of Buddah, and they were originally NEgroes" pg 59: "nor can it be reasonably doubted, that a race of Negroes formerly had power and pre-eminence in India" pg 59- AS TO ETHIOPIA: And it is probable that an Ethiopian, a negro, correctly speaking, may have been meant, not merely a black person; and it seems probable that the following may have ben the real fact, viz, that a race of NEgroes or Blacks, but probably of the former, came to India to the west."
Anglo-Pyr/CassiRETEDES own source debunks him. Note the footnote by his own author- QUOTE: "may not have been Negroes, though Blacks, though it is probably they were so."
His own source says they may not have been Negroes then adds: THOUGH IT IS PROBABLY THEY WERE SO."
^The Faker once again, debunks himself. And he seems not to realize that Ethiopia is in "sub-Saharan" Africa.. lol.. pathetic incompetent..
And he never shows these massive number of websites "all over the internet". Like what? How many? If they are "all over" then he should at least be able to give direct links to 6 showing pages where the "Afrocentrics: are "distorting" Higgins work. LEt's say what the faker has besides hot air. Post DIRECT LINKS to 6 of the huge number of alleged "Afrocentric" websites where the Afrocentrics are "distorting" Higgins. SHow how they are distorting Higgins with specific quotes and specific context.
Watch the Faker duck and run when he is again called on a claim, or make up yet another lie to cover his exposure... -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
THE FAKER EXPOSED- part 8:
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Originally posted by Anglo-Pyr/Cassiredes: "Fair hair and light eyes colours are only found among Caucasoids, esp of Europe."
But then, in your own thread, by your own hand, you present a picture of an African albino that has pale skin, light brown or hazel eyes and fair hair. You said it was impossible, but then debunk yourself with your own posted picture.. This is like the 8-9th time you keep tripping over yourself with lies, contradictions, and bogus claims.
RECAP The Faker exposed- part 7 Originally posted by Anglo-Pyr/Cassiredes: "Fair hair and light eyes colours are only found among Caucasoids, esp of Europe."
^^Your claim is is completely bogus. Native diversity or albinism causes some tropical Africans to have light eyes and light hair. You fail againn..
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THE FAKER EXPOSED: PART 6 1-- ^^Faker! In your initial posts you claimed that it was Cavalli-Sforza talking 'bout negroes "mutating" from Pygmies. Now in your "corrected" post, YOU STILL APPEAR A FAKE. You now remove Cavalli- Sforza's name on the "mutant" claim, admitting that you were lying all along! Bwa ha aha a hah a ha ahahaha aha ahah..
2-- Second point- Peter Frost is debunked by Cavalli-Sforza who says as to his so-called "mutation" theory: QUOTE:
"It remains difficult to pinpoint an ancient place of origin for the Negroid type which includes all West, Central and South Africans. Contrary to many earlier opinions, modern Pygmies and Khosians are not good candidates for a proto-African population."
--Cavalli Sforza et al, 1994. The history and geography of human genes. 194
Frost mentions Cavalli-Sforza in connection with sexual selection, and movement of some groups from Nigeria-Cameroon to other parts of Africa. He never says Cavalli Sforza talks bout any "negro mutation" and in fact any mutation claim is directly contradicted by Sforza. Sucka, you not only lied bout Cavalli-Sforza, you lied about your own white writer- Peter Frost, and misrepresented him.
THE FAKER EXPOSED: PART 6 Anglo-Pyr/CassiREDES says: ''There are then no Australoids with blonde hair past the age of about twenty''
^^LMAO! Totally fake! Credible up to date sources note that blondism is prevalent in early life BUT, contrary to your claim that: "There are then no Australoids with blonde hair past the age of about twenty", the shade of color varies. In maturity the hair usually turns a darker brown color, but sometimes remains blond. See: "Gene Expression: Blonde Australian Aboriginals". Gnxp.com. http://www.gnxp.com/blog/2005/08/blonde-australian-aboriginals.php.
^^Here is one of your Australians over 20 years old who does have blonde hair. YOu are caught out spinning bogus claims AGAIN!. Bwa ha aha a hah a ha ahahaha aha ahah.. -
THE FAKER EXPOSED: PART 5a [b]So where are these tropical african peoples with pale white or fair skin? blonde red hair?
^^You fail again. African populations can readily produce blond or reddish blond hair as noted by hair study author Hrdy 1978 himself, and he references Nubia as an example. Albinism is another source of red or blond hair in Africa, and albinism is much more prevalent in African populations than among Europeans. Even African Americans produce more albinos than white Americans. (The pigmentary system: physiology and pathophysiology- By James J. Nordlund 2006: 603) (E. Roach and V. Miller 2004. Neurocutaneous disorders.) QUOTE: "In general, the prevalence of albinism in Africa is much higher, in the range of 1 in 1 100 to 1 in 3900."
So Africa can and does routinely produce red and blond hair. All non-Africans are MORE LIMITED subsets of ORIGINAL African diversity. THe originals have more built-in diversity than the limited sub-set populations. This is straight science as noted by the quote from TIshkoff 2000.
Nor are Africans the only tropical peoples who can produce reddish hair or blond hair. Among Australian Aborigines, some tropical groups produce 100% of individuals with blond hair. Melanesians can also produce blond or reddish hair, and do so routinely.
White people have no monopoly at all on that hair color. They merely show more of it, but even among whites, red hair for example is minor- occurring in less than 5% of the overall European populations, mostly in northern Europe.
So the claim that there are no tropical Africans with such variation is once again, proved fake. You made the claim.
THE FAKER EXPOSED: PART 4 ime and time again, you stand debunked and exposed for falsifying claims and references. Let's recap:
Originally posted by Anglo-Pyr/CassiFAKedes::
quote: The source is Cavalli-Sforza's book on the Pygmies entitled 'African pygmies' (Academic Press, 1986).
This work shows that Negroids mutated from an ancestral pygmy population around 9,000 BC in West Africa. So the 'true' Black African today is a recent mutation. Caucasoids and Mongoloids predate them. [Wink] Negroids only migrated into other parts of Africa during the Bantu expansion or slightly earlier. Prior to them, Caucasoids inhabited North Africa and Bushmen (Capoids) to the south who were displaced by the Caucasoids from the Mediterranean around 12,000 BC.
^^A bogus reference. Why should anyone take your word for it given past bogus references? Quote where Cavalli-Sforza says these so-called "negroids" "mutated" from Pygmies. The burden of proof is on you, since you made the claim.
While you scurry to cover your tracks with yet more bogus claims, Cavali Sforza, in his well known The History and Geography of Human Genes, 1994 Cavalli-Sforza summarizes his 1986 work on Pygmies and specifically debunks the "Pygmy as ancestor" theory held by other older writings. QUOTE:
"It remains difficult to pinpoint an ancient place of origin for the Negroid type which includes all West, Central and South Africans. Contrary to many earlier opinions, modern Pygmies and Khosians are not good candidates for a proto-African population."
--Cavalli Sforza et al, 1994. The history and geography of human genes. 194
SO much for your lying claims of "mutations" from "Pygymy" ancestors. In short, you lied about Cavalli-Sforza, creating a falsified claim and a bogus "supporting" reference to a claim that is nowhere supported in his work. You are once again exposed as yet another racist faker You are not fooling anyone.
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THE FAKER EXPOSED-PART 3- YOu then tried to cover up your lie with even more bogus nformation and STILL fail
You "modified" your Cavalli Sforza claim by including page numbers, and then changing some wording to "adaptive radiation" hoping to divert attention from your exposure.. lmao..
However pages 361-362 of Cavalli Sforza's 1986 book says absolutely nothing about any Negroes "mutating" from pygmies, nor any "adaptive radiation." It merely discusses Pygmy history and geography. You picked out a page at random, not knowing it can be verified via Google Books. You were asked to provide a direct quote but are still running. Now why is that?
""It remains difficult to pinpoint an ancient place of origin for the Negroid type which includes all West, Central and South Africans. Contrary to many earlier opinions, modern Pygmies and Khosians are not good candidates for a proto-African population."
--Cavalli Sforza et al, 1994. The history and geography of human genes. 194
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THE FAKER EXPOSED- PART 2 And Your pathetic "modification" STILL turned out to be bogus. You then said:
"True" Black Africans appear as a recent adaptive radiation apparently branching off from an ancestral Pygmy population — a line of ancestry also indicated by osteological data (Coon 1962:651-656; Watson et al. 1996).
^^But in fact, Watson 1996 has nothing to do with osteological data and does not even mention it. It has to do with mtDNA.
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THE FAKER EXPOSED- PART 1C YOU THEN PROFFERED ANOTHER FAKE CLAIM BELOW: He says:
quote: "Note that in the Old Testament the Danites are the only Hebrew people described as being maritime and associated with ships.."
^^Complete Nonsense. In the Old Testament, the tribe of Zebulun is mentioned as specifically associated with ships and maritime elements. QUOTE:
Genesis 49:13 "Zebulun will dwell at the shore of the seas; Yea, he will be at the shore of the ships, And his side toucheth upon Sidon. "
Anglo-Pyr/Cassi-Fakdes: MULTIPLE TIMES AT BAT, MULTIPLE EXPOSURES AS A FAKE...
--fake claim that no Australian Abo over 20 is blonde
-- fake claim that NO tropical Africans have any diversity in hair, skin or eye color
-- fake Cavalli-Sforza citation
-- 2nd fake Cavalli-Sforza reference
-- Faked Watson reference
-- Faked Biblical reference
-- FAke representation of Peter Frost's work
-- Fake claim that "studies" say "egyptians were dark are not like 'light-skinned Europeans". COnveniently, the alleged study is missing..
--Fake Higgins claims
--Fake claim that Guiseppe Sergi's EurAfrican race concept is negro-free
--Fake claim that Vanessa Williams has no black ancestry but is "white and Indian"
--Fake claim that Egyptologists like Yurco consider the Egyptians "Caucasoid"
--Fake claim of white Nordic Egyptian royalty
--Fake claim of "blond" Hetepheres
--Fake claim of white males in BRitain "unable to get jobs"
--FAKE Cruciani "quote" with "citation"
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quote:Originally posted by Anglo_Pyramidologist: What the African E1b1b carriers looked like when they came to Europe, similar to the original Berbers of N. Africa today:
^ Fully Caucasoid.
Care to explain these E3B E-M78 carries? lol
Recurrent mutation in SNPs within Y chromosome E3b (E-M215) haplogroup: A rebuttal
Fulvio Cruciani1, Beniamino Trombetta1, Andrea Novelletto2, Rosaria Scozzari1,*
DOI: 10.1002/ajhb.20790
American Journal of Human Biology Volume 20, Issue 5, pages 614–616, September/October 2008
Abstract
In a previous issue of AJHB, Fernandes et al. (2008. Am J Hum Biol 20:185–190.) describe instances of identity by state at multiple short tandem repeat loci between human Y chromosomes belonging to different E-M35 sub-haplogroups.
They interpret these findings as evidence for multiple mutational events in at least two loci (M78 and M81). Here, we introduce a novel polymorphic marker (V68), potentially useful to investigate the issue. This marker and sequence data, reported here for the first time, reinforce our previous interpretations on the phylogenetic structure of the E3b haplogroup.
quote:Originally posted by Oshun: Greeks are a fourth African with Italians about 1/8th.
The African E1b1b carriers who moved into Europe during the Mesolithic and Neolithic were fully Caucasoid.
Caucasoid – E (only subclade E1b1b is a Caucasoid marker, but all other sublades of E are Negroid haplomarkers).
You loose...
Negroid genetic admixture (E other than E1b1b) is non-existant in Europeans, unless you include modern admixture during the slave trade which is at its highest is only 2% in Portugal.
E3b originated in East Africa and expanded into the Near East and northern Africa at the end of the Pleistocene (Underhill et al. 2001).
E3b lineages would have then been introduced from the Near East into southern Europe by farmers, during the Neolithic expansion (Hammer et al. 1998; Semino et al. 2000; Underhill et al. 2001).
Subtyping of Y-chromosomal haplogroup E-M78 (E1b1b1a) by SNP
Here, we describe a system for the molecular dissection of haplogroup E-M78 (E1b1b1a), consisting of multiplex polymerase chain reaction and minisequencing of M78 and nine population-informative Y-SNPs (M148, M224, V12, V13, V19, V22, V27, V32, V65) in a single reaction.
E1b1b1a, subhaplogrouping for population-of-origin prediction, the distribution of E-M78 and its derived variants was determined in an Italian population sample (n = 326).
—PN2 clade (E3) bearers in the vicinity of the Sudanese-Central African Republic -Ugandan-Kenyan region give rise to E3a ~ between 21 and 18 ky ago [pending additional or new info]; E3b-M35* would have likely arose relatively earlier than E3a*[as evidenced by its near absence in some the populations that carry this], sometime prior to the Ogolian and the LGM period. At this time, it was likely the M78 derivative that came about ~ between 19 and 15 ky ago. It was also likely during this period, that some E3b-M35 variants spilled over to the "southwest Asia", which would be identified as E-M34. The E-M78* likely arose somewhere in the bidirectional-migration route between Northeast and sub-Saharan East Africa; this location was likely in the region straddling upper Egypt and Sudan of the eastern Sahara, amongst earlier E-M35 migrants from sub-Saharan East Africa. These M78 bearers were increasingly pressured to move further south due to progressive aridity, possibly as far as Uganda-Kenya and/or Tanzanian general region.
Paragroup E-M78 represents 74.5% of haplogroup E*, the highest frequencies observed in Masalit and Fur populations.
I reintroduce to you the FUR! lol
lol CARE TO EXPLAIN? lol
The downstreams.
Albania 27.5% Greece 27% Serbia 24% Macedonia 23% Cyprus 20% Bulgaria 16% Bosnia-Herzegovina 14.5% Portugal 12.5% Italy 11% Turkey 11% Austria 9% Belarus 9% Slovakia 9% Switzerland 9% Ukraine 8% France 7% Croatia 6% Czech Republic 6% Romania 6% Spain 6% Germany 5.5% Netherlands 4.5% Belgium 4% Poland 3.5% Slovenia 3% Denmark 2.5% Estonia 2.5% Russia 2.5% England 2% Ireland 2% Wales 2% Scotland 1.5% Finland 1% Lithuania 1% Norway 1% Sweden 1% Latvia 0.5% Iceland 0%
Care to explain?lol
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quote:Originally posted by zarahan- aka Enrique Bwa ha aha aha ahahah. you pathetic dolt, and a stinking liar as well. Cruciani's article is available online. It does not have the bogus "quote" you doctored above. Anyone can verify it here: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1181964/?tool=pubmed
You simply made up the quote and threw in a citation like the pitiful buffoon you are, not knowing the article has been posted and discussed numerous times here on ES.
err.... retard
That is the ABSTRACT only.
The exact quote is on page 74.
Fulvio Cruciani et al, Phylogeographic Analysis of Haplogroup E1b1b (E-M215) Y Chromosomes Reveals Multiple Migratory Events Within and Out Of Africa, Am. J. Hum. Genet, p. 74.
Check it for yourself.
You say the same about Cavalli-Sforza, despite the fact i gave you the page numbers.
It's not my problem you don't have access to these works... Just because you lack access doesn't mean i make the quotes up you fucking moron. Go troll elsewhere.
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Y-DNA and MtDNA have no direct link to phenotype. They are only markers of geographical origin. Phenotype = autosomal DNA.
However if you can identify indigenous carriers of a certain region and you know their phenotype, then it correlates. We know E1b1b originated in the Horn of Africa, 26k years ago.
Prehistoric East Africans were not Negroid:
quote:.W. Howells' study of world craniometric variation is especially relevant to the racial affinity of East Africans before the expansion of Negroids into the region. Howells studied some 2,500+ skulls from 28 populations of recent Homo sapiens based on 57 metric variables, including skulls from the Teita tribe of East Africa. These recent Teita tribesmen (and women) clustered with other Sub-Saharan Africans, indicating that (as is obvious) recent Kenyans belong primarily to the Negroid race.
Howells then studied prehistoric East Africans and other humans from around the world to determine whether or not they show any affinities with living races. He did this to examine whether the morphological complexes of modern races can be discerned in remote times. Using the same multivariate approach he studied the Elmenteita, Nakuru and Willey's Kopje skulls from Kenya. His conclusion was that there is no racial continuity between recent Negroid East African skulls and these prehistoric remains.
- Howells WW (1989) Skull shapes and the map: craniometric analyses in the dispersion of modern Homo. Peabody Museum Papers 79:1-189. - Howells WW (1995) Who's Who in skulls: ethnic identification of crania from measurements. Peabody Museum Papers 82:1-108.
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E1b1b was taken into Europe by Caucasoids.
All craniometric analysis of prehistoric Ethiopians proves they were non-Negroid.
Negroids only moved into Ethiopia as late as the Bantu expansion, and modern east africans are Aethiopid (Caucasoid-Negrid admixed).
Though Ethiopians are generally Negroid in pigmentation and sometimes hair type, their Caucasoid (Mediterranean) accretions are evident in their cranial and facial morphology, which distinguishes them from pure West African Negroids (Coon, 1939) -
Y-DNA and MtDNA have no direct link to phenotype. They are only markers of geographical origin. Phenotype = autosomal DNA.
However if you can identify indigenous carriers of a certain region and you know their phenotype, then it correlates. We know E1b1b originated in the Horn of Africa, 26k years ago.
Prehistoric East Africans were not Negroid:
quote:.W. Howells' study of world craniometric variation is especially relevant to the racial affinity of East Africans before the expansion of Negroids into the region. Howells studied some 2,500+ skulls from 28 populations of recent Homo sapiens based on 57 metric variables, including skulls from the Teita tribe of East Africa. These recent Teita tribesmen (and women) clustered with other Sub-Saharan Africans, indicating that (as is obvious) recent Kenyans belong primarily to the Negroid race.
Howells then studied prehistoric East Africans and other humans from around the world to determine whether or not they show any affinities with living races. He did this to examine whether the morphological complexes of modern races can be discerned in remote times. Using the same multivariate approach he studied the Elmenteita, Nakuru and Willey's Kopje skulls from Kenya. His conclusion was that there is no racial continuity between recent Negroid East African skulls and these prehistoric remains.
- Howells WW (1989) Skull shapes and the map: craniometric analyses in the dispersion of modern Homo. Peabody Museum Papers 79:1-189. - Howells WW (1995) Who's Who in skulls: ethnic identification of crania from measurements. Peabody Museum Papers 82:1-108.
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E1b1b was taken into Europe by Caucasoids.
All craniometric analysis of prehistoric Ethiopians proves they were non-Negroid.
Negroids only moved into Ethiopia as late as the Bantu expansion, and modern east africans are Aethiopid (Caucasoid-Negrid admixed).
Though Ethiopians are generally Negroid in pigmentation and sometimes hair type, their Caucasoid (Mediterranean) accretions are evident in their cranial and facial morphology, which distinguishes them from pure West African Negroids (Coon, 1939) -
lol but weren't "you" first claiming caucasoid traits came from the caucasus? You do know where that is I hope?lol
Here is what your ancestor looked like when they left Africa. Eye-to-eye.lol
For your information, c.coon has become outdated biased debunked anthropology. Next time ask your cohorts to inform you better over what has been discussed, already. Otherwise it becomes boring repeating the some over and over.
Repeat mode: Omo Kibish!
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quote: "From the Mesolithic to the early Neolithic period different lines of evidence support an out-of-Africa Mesolithic migration to the Levant by northeastern African groups that had biological affinities with sub-Saharan populations. From a genetic point of view, several recent genetic studies have shown that sub-Sabaran genetic lineages (affiliated with the Y-chromosome PN2 clade; Underhill et al. 2001) have spread through Egypt into the Near East, the Mediterranean area, and, for some lineages, as far north as Turkey (E3b-M35 Y lineage; Cinniogclu et al. 2004; Luis et al. 2004), probably during several dispersal episodes since the Mesolithic (Cinniogelu et al. 2004; King et al. 2008; Lucotte and Mercier 2003; Luis et al. 2004; Quintana-Murci et al. 1999; Semino et al. 2004; Underhill et al. 2001). This finding is in agreement with morphological data that suggest that populations with sub-Saharan morphological elements were present in northeastern Africa, from the Paleolithic to at least the early Holocene, and diffused northward to the Levant and Anatolia beginning in the Mesolithic.
Indeed, the rare and incomplete Paleolithic to early Neolithic skeletal specimens found in Egypt - such as the 33,000-year-old Nazlet Khater specimen (Pinhasi and Semai 2000), the Wadi Kubbaniya skeleton from the late Paleolithic site in the upper Nile valley (Wendorf et al. 1986), the Qarunian (Faiyum) early Neolithic crania (Henneberg et al. 1989; Midant-Reynes 2000), and the Nabta specimen from the Neolithic Nabta Playa site in the western desert of Egypt (Henneberg et al. 1980) - show, with regard to the great African biological diversity, similarities with some of the sub-Saharan middle Paleolithic and modern sub-Saharan specimens.
This affinity pattern between ancient Egyptians and sub-Saharans has also been noticed by several other investigators (Angel 1972; Berry and Berry 1967, 1972; Keita 1995) and has been recently reinforced by the study of Brace et al. (2005), which clearly shows that the cranial morphology of prehistoric and recent northeast African populations is linked to sub-Saharan populations (Niger-Congo populations). These results support the hypothesis that some of the Paleolithic-early Holocene populations from northeast Africa were probably descendents of sub-Saharan ancestral populations...... This northward migration of northeastern African populations carrying sub-Saharan biological elements is concordant with the morphological homogeneity of the Natufian populations (Bocquentin 2003), which present morphological affinity with sub-Saharan populations (Angel 1972; Brace et al. 2005).
In addition, the Neolithic revolution was assumed to arise in the late Pleistocene Natufians and subsequently spread into Anatolia and Europe (Bar-Yosef 2002), and the first Anatolian farmers, Neolithic to Bronze Age Mediterraneans and to some degree other Neolithic-Bronze Age Europeans, show morphological affinities with the Natufians (and indirectly with sub-Saharan populations; Angel 1972; Brace et al. 2005), in concordance with a process of demie diffusion accompanying the extension of the Neolithic revolution (Cavalli-Sforza et al. 1994)."
---Cranial Discrete Traits in a Byzantine Population and Eastern Mediterranean Population Movements F. X. Ricaut, M. Waelkens. Human Biology, Volume 80, Number 5, October 2008, pp. 535-564
Göbekli Tepe - 11,500 B.C. Which is a hilltop sanctuary built on the highest point of an elongated mountain ridge about 15km northeast of the town of Şanlıurfa (Urfa) in southeast Turkey.
German Archaeologist Klaus Schmidt discovered: Gobeki Tepe.
This is actually what the author mentioned:
..."and would have attracted hunter-gatherers from Africa and the Levant."...
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All craniometric analysis of prehistoric Ethiopians proves they were non-Negroid.
Negroids only moved into Ethiopia as late as the Bantu expansion, and modern east africans are Aethiopid (Caucasoid-Negrid admixed).
Though Ethiopians are generally Negroid in pigmentation and sometimes hair type, their Caucasoid (Mediterranean) accretions are evident in their cranial and facial morphology, which distinguishes them from pure West African Negroids (Coon, 1939) -
Explain why they are tropical adapted and not extensive hairy? lol
The Northeast Africa-based E1b1b1a subclade is defined by SNP M78. Somalia, Sudan and Egypt are among the present day countries with very high frequencies (60-90%) of the E1b1b1a M78 subclade. The STR data also support its origin in this area with a TMRCA estimated at 14-23 kya.
The E1b1b1a1b (V32) subclade is a descendant of E1b1b1a1 (V12). E1b1b1a1b/V32 is highest in Somalia (47-75%),
This somewhat rare haplogroup, E1b1b1e (V6), has only been observed in East Africa with the most appreciable levels seen in Ethiopia (4-17%). Kenya and Somalia also harbor a moderate frequency (5%) of this subclade.
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lol at this "African American black woman" lol
quote:Originally posted by the lioness:
quote:Originally posted by Troll Patrol: Explain why they are tropical adapted and not extensive hairy? lol
Melanin (En español: Melanina)
Say: mel-uh-nun
Ever wonder where your skin gets its color? It comes from the magic "m" word: melanin! This natural pigment is what gives your skin its special hue. The darker your skin, the more melanin you have.
People with light complexions have less melanin (say: meh-luh-nun) in their skin. Melanin is a chemical produced by certain skin cells (called melanocytes); it helps protect the skin from sun damage by reflecting and absorbing ultraviolet (UV) rays.
The more melanin you have in your skin, the tanner you look! People with fair skin have less melanin in their skin to begin with, but some of their melanocytes make more melanin when exposed to the sun. So instead of easily getting an even suntan, they sometimes get freckles.
quote:For your information, c.coon has become outdated biased debunked anthropology.
Wrong. Coon is still valid, at least so according to the National Academy of Sciences.
Those who dislike the findings and racial classifications of Coon will try to write him off as outdated.
But an appreciation written a few years after his death by a modern anthropologist disproves these claims and affirms the continuing value and influence of his work. It also shows that he was already dealing with the kind of unscientific race-denial that's so rampant today, and defending himself against the accusations of "racism" that go with it:
''He was exasperated by what he called the "hide-race" attitude of people who, from social or philosophical motives, seemed to deny the existence of obvious biological differences. He became indignant at any suggestion that his interest in race derived from racist motives. Although a good many articles had been written about environmental adaptation of such traits, this book was the first to address the problem as a whole.
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After holding several serious ailments at bay for some years, Carl died on June 3, 1981, at his West Gloucester home, shortly before his seventy-seventh birthday. His brilliance left a lasting mark on a generation of anthropologists.''
- W. W. Howells. "Biographical Memoirs V.58". National Academy of Sciences, 1989.
I'm interested in truth like Coon was, so i take his research serious.
Afrocentrism in contrast is a lie. All you do is spam the same crap over and over with Zaharan, no one reads it...
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quote:Originally posted by Anglo_Pyramidologist: [QB]
quote:Care to explain?lol
Y-DNA and MtDNA have no direct link to phenotype. They are only markers of geographical origin. Phenotype = autosomal DNA.
However if you can identify indigenous carriers of a certain region and you know their phenotype, then it correlates. We know E1b1b originated in the Horn of Africa, 26k years ago.
So if E1b1b originated in the Horn of Africa 26k years ago...what was before that? lol
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quote:Originally posted by Troll Patrol: Explain why they are tropical adapted and not extensive hairy? lol
Caucasoids are not extensive hairy, your cherry picked picture spams are irrelevant. The most hairy race is the Australoid.
Europeans are most hairy, right after Eurasians. This is a fact! Deal with it.
The northern coastal aborigines are “tall, dark, less hairy, and very lanky.” (Howells, 1959, p. 326).lol
Autosomal microsatellite variability of the Arrernte people of Australia
M. A. Alfonso-Sánchez1,2, A. M. Pérez-Miranda1,2, R. J. Herrera1,*
Article first published online: 23 OCT 2007
DOI: 10.1002/ajhb.20685
American Journal of Human Biology Volume 20, Issue 1, pages 91–99,
Abstract
The genomic diversity of the Arrernte people of Australia or caterpillar people was investigated utilizing 13 autosomal short tandem repeat (STR) markers. Significant departures from Hardy–Weinberg equilibrium were detected at the D18S51, TPOX and CSF1PO loci, which persisted after applying the Bonferroni correction. Gene diversity values oscillate between 0.6302 (CSF1PO) and 0.8731 (D21S11). Observed heterozygosity (Ho) ranges from 0.2632 (D18S51) to 0.8333 (vWA) and is lower than the expected heterozygosity (He) for 12 of the 13 loci analyzed.
The genetic relationships of the Arrernte with Middle Eastern, East Asian, South Asian and Indian populations were analyzed by distance-based methods, including Neighbor-Joining trees and nonmetric multidimensional scaling.
In addition, the genetic contribution of the populations included in the analysis to the Arrernte gene pool was estimated utilizing weighted least square coefficients. Although the Arrernte population exhibits a remarkable level of genetic differentiation, results of the phylogeographic analyses based on autosomal microsatellite data suggest a certain degree of genetic relatedness between the Arrernte tribe of Australia and populations from the Indian subcontinent.
In contrast, the STR diversity analyses failed to detect substantial East Asian contribution to the genetic background of the Arrernte group. Am. J. Hum. Biol.,
1)." Autraliods" are early Eurasians. They moved into Eurasia and from there furher east. Hg C, D arose/ mutated in Eurasia and coastal Arabian Peninsula.
2). While other early migrationist like Negritos migrated via the coastal route.
You lose again. Keep trying!
Stanley H. Ambrose Department of Anthropology, University of Illinois,
Journal of Human Evolution (1998) 34, 623–651
Late Pleistocene human population bottlenecks, volcanic winter, and differentiation of modern humans
The cause, timing and location of bottleneck releases
If population release was due to the natural increase (logistic population growth) of disease-resistant populations following epidemics, then growth could have been relatively rapid, a function of the intrinsic rate of increase of disease-resistant popula-tions, and the duration of the bottleneck relatively brief. Its date could have been at any time, but would presumably have been relatively soon after the bottleneck. Release could have occurred wherever disease-resistant individuals survived.
If release was due to natural increase in founder population size after dispersing across land bridges or narrow straits (Lahr, 1996; Lahr & Foley, 1994) then release dates would vary from 70–50 ka for the early Australasian dispersal, to 45 ka for the second Levantine dispersal. In the epidemic and dispersal scenarios the dura-tion of the bottleneck would have been brief.
If bottlenecks were caused by the cold, arid climate of isotope stage 4 then their duration was approximately 10 ka and release could have been as late as 60 ka.
The failure of early modern humans to survive in the Levant during the early last glacial implies they were not yet physiologically and/or behaviorally well-adapted to cold climates and Palearctic environments, or at least not as well-adapted as neanderthals.
The Multiple Dispersals model (Figure 3) proposes that a population bottleneck occurred during oxygen isotope stage 6, when cold, dry climates caused isolation and differentiation of populations within Africa.
If bottlenecks were caused by the cold, arid climate of isotope stage 4 then their duration was approximately 10 ka and release could have been as late as 60 ka.
Global climate change could have reduced populations during the early last ice age, oxygen isotope stage 4
... As noted above, the replacement of modern humans by neander- thals in the Levant, suggests African modern humans were rather poorly-adapted to cold climates.
lol
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You claim body hair is a cold adaptive trait, but by the same logic so has to be straight-wavy hair, yet you claim straight hair is a feature of the hot tropics...
You are just picking and choosing.
Negroids are wooly haired, not straight.
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quote:Originally posted by Anglo_Pyramidologist: ^ You can't have it both ways...
You claim body hair is a cold adaptive trait, but by the same logic so has to be straight-wavy hair, yet you claim straight hair is a feature of the hot tropics...
You are just picking and choosing.
Negroids are wooly haired, not straight.
Extensive body hair is a trait of cold adaption lol
Short limb portion is a trait of cold adaption.lol
It's really that simple.
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Australoids are the most hairy race. I gave you sources before. They have extensive hair all over their body, mostly including their arms. Some look like wolf-men...
Caucasoids don't have anywhere near this amount of hair growth.
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quote:Originally posted by Anglo_Pyramidologist: Australoids are the most hairy race. I gave you sources before. They have extensive hair all over their body, mostly including their arms. Some look like wolf-men...
Caucasoids don't have anywhere near this amount of hair growth.
I don't know if you are blind or what. But I posted a study to you, with the proper elaboration. Or can't you comprehend it?lol at the distractions.
Now stop picture spamming, it's irrelevant. lol
What is the Hg of them?
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quote:Originally posted by Anglo_Pyramidologist: ^ You can't have it both ways...
You claim body hair is a cold adaptive trait, but by the same logic so has to be straight-wavy hair, yet you claim straight hair is a feature of the hot tropics...
You are just picking and choosing.
Negroids are wooly haired, not straight.
I did not mention the word straight wavy hair. It's you who did.lol
Get real!lol
I am speaking of body hair and cold limb portions.
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The what's happening to my body? book for boys: a growing up guide for ... - page 68
Lynda Madaras, Dane Saavedra - 1987 - 251 pagina’s The amount of body hair you'll have is determined by two things : your racial or ethnic group and your family. As a group, Caucasian (white) men generally have more body hair than Oriental or Negro (black) men.
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For it not to be so common for yte men to have excessive body hair as the idiot yte bwoy would like to think and/or try to tell us, funny there are so many websites re; men wanting to remove excess hair- yet it's not common in yte people Does his dumb azz not real-eyes that it's a trend amongst yte males to wax their chests and other parts, sometimes completely for a 'smooth look'? While it's true there are some Black Men who have nuff body hair, there are no shortage of yte men with the kind of excessive body hair as the pictures I've seen of yte men or yte men I've seen out in public with the hair bursting from out of their shirts everywhere it can from their Natural sweater (worse if it's summer and they're not wearing a shirt uggggghhh)...The majority of men we see with excessive body hair like that are not Black Men- that is the reality of it....I've come across clips on television of men having competitions re; their 'sweaters'...as in, who has the most body hair...it was disgusting...and...whyyyyyyy I didn't see a Black Man anywhere in any of those clips I came across...ijs...
Why Do Men Want to Remove Excess Hair From Their Bodies Published February 4, 2012
Though men usually don’t think about removing excess hair from their body, in today’s professional and competitive lifestyle, it’s emerging as a growing trend not only among celebrities or athletes, but also a common man.
When it comes to Hollywood actors like Leonardo DiCaprio and Brad Pitt, in order to get that extra sex appeal, they leave their chests spotless in front of the camera. It is a general notion that most women desire men with clean-shaven body and smooth-skin look. Body hair removal for athletes holds a total different purpose and is done entirely for other reasons. Swimmers get rid of extra body hair to reduce hydrodynamic drag resistance caused by them. As a result, their movements under the water become more fluid for better performance. Hair No More cream is a number one choice of most people, who want a clear and smooth hairless skin.
The reason why most cyclists want to keep their legs hair-free is that after any crash, more asphalt is grabbed by their legs, which can lead to severe skin tears. Also, it becomes easier to clean and bandage hair-free skin when you get road injuries. Most cyclists think that smooth and clean legs can move more quickly to slow them down. Although, there are mixed beliefs among most people about the extent to which hair can affect the speed of their movements. But when it comes to hair removal for men, they shouldn’t feel ashamed or hesitate to de-forest unwanted and excess hair from their bodies. In 1920, the earliest bodybuilders understood the benefit of a clean-shaven hairless body as it allowed them to show off every single bulky muscle on their bodies. One of them was Charles, who became famous with a clean body after modelling on a video showing his entire spotless body for others to admire. Many men want most parts of their body free from any hair to avoid any skin irritation or itching due to sweating.
Having a perfectly muscle tone Stress Free body also means regular body grooming appearence is essential for the perfect professional business male & athlete.
Hairy untrimmed backs,chest, arm pits , glutes & yes, your private area are unprofessional & a turn off to all women. Reality Check; You will be the butt of jokes; Your wife, girlfriend,your team mates/frat buddies are talking behind your back saying you look like Grizzly Adams or caveman. The hours you train to buff your body, should be display were the world can see your ripped body & not buried under wild hair.
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Do -- Trim armpit hair
The first do of our male body hair dos and don’ts concerns the fact that most men have hair under their arms and women expect and accept it. This doesn’t mean that you should let your armpit hair turn into an unkempt jungle, though. Keep your underarm hair trimmed to a reasonable length. It will not only look better this way, but you’ll also notice that you’ll sweat less and therefore smell better. Don't -- Shave armpits bare
As stated above, women expect to see hair beneath a man’s arms. It’s probably not going to be the first thing she notices, but she’ll eventually realize that you have no hair under your arms and she’s bound to question your masculinity because of it. So, unless you’re a male model, keep some hair under there. Do -- Groom chest hair
Plenty of women like to see some hair on a man’s chest, but most prefer to avoid the fuzzy carpet variety. Thinning out your chest hair is a good idea, but leave some hair for her to run her fingers through. On the other hand, there are some women who like a perfectly hairless chest. If you’re going to go with this option, be sure to shave regularly as the bristly stubble length will be uncomfortable for you and unappealing for her. Don't -- Go Brazilian or bare everywhere
It might be OK once in a while for something different, but a man who constantly removes every hair from his genital area will be seen by women as either sex-obsessed or incredibly vain.
The only men who should ever consider going completely hairless over their entire bodies are competitive bikers or swimmers. If it’s not done for the purposes of increased speed, it’s just kind of weird. If you do plan to get rid of the hair on your torso and genitals, you might as well go all the way and shave your legs too (two hairy stalks under your smooth, shaved body would look ridiculous). Do -- Get rid of shoulder, back hair & Hairy Glutes
Most will agree that hair on your back or shoulders is unsightly at best in the summer when most of you will be showing more skin. How can you show off your tan when your body looks like a wild forest. There doesn’t seem to be any logical reason why your girlfriend or wife will run her fingers wantonly through your chest hair and recoil disgustedly at your back hair -- that’s just the way it is. Do yourself a favor and get rid of all the hair back there. Do -- Keep it trimmed down there
Just as you appreciate a clean field of play when you go down on your girl, so will she be pleased to see a well-groomed area around your genitals If your hair is wild & long enough to cover your private parts, you are due for a groom. I guarantee once you are professionally groom, you will see a big difference on how women or your partner will react.No matter how young,or in shape you are, a ungroom hairy body is a major turnoff for most & many will laugh behind your back . Anything that will make her more willing and enthusiastic to visit your nether regions should be done consistently. So keep it neatly trimmed down there. Keeping your pubic hair under control also helps to make you look bigger and controls unpleasant odors.Leave everything else alone. A little light trimming of the hair on the ams, legs, and other places is fine, just make sure you leave them natural looking. Unless you're a competitive swimmer or cyclist, arms and legs can be left a little hairy Don't -- Shave patterns
Unless it’s for the purposes of a joke and is going to be immediately shaved after the laughter dies down, men should never shave any of their hair into patterns of any kind. This applies especially to pubic hair. You don’t need to point your woman in the right direction with arrows, triangles or lightning bolts shaved into your pubes. She knows where she’s going. A simple undisturbed treasure trail will do if you really want to orient her to the right body part. what women or your partner may want
It’s not necessary to base all your grooming choices on what women or your partner will think, of course (feel free to shave your balls if it feels good to you), but since your other half will be the one who will see you naked, you should at least take their opinions into account when you reach for your razor. Even if you do make a grooming faux pas and your girlfriend can’t look at you without laughing, remember that hair grows back and you’ll get back to normal soon.
quote:Originally posted by Anglo_Pyramidologist: ^ You can't have it both ways...
You are just picking and choosing.
Negroids are wooly haired, not straight.
quote:Morphological characteristics ...like skin color, hair form, bone traits, eyes, and lips tend to follow geographic boundaries coinciding often with climatic zones . This is not surprising since the selective forces of climate are probably the primary forces of nature that have shaped human races with regard not only to skin color and hair form but also the underlying bony structures of the nose, cheekbones, etc. (For example, more prominent noses humidify air better.) As far as we know, blood-factor frequencies are not shaped by these same climatic factors
Gill, George W. Does Race Exist? A Proponent's Perspective. University of Wyoming, 2000
quote:Originally posted by Troll Patrol
have you actually ever been to these locations yourself?
I always find it hilarious when internet Africanists and anthropologists hold forth on Africa, but have never been there.
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quote:Originally posted by claus3600: ^ Ha, ha, ha, ha!!!
I always find it hilarious when internet Africanists and anthropologists hold forth on Africa, but have never been there.
Even funnier, by this meth addict.
quote:Originally posted by Anglo_Pyramidologist: ^ retard.
E1b1b is not Negroid.
Read it an weep -
''Sub-Saharan Africans belong to subclades of E other than E1b1b, while most non-Africans who belong to haplogroup E belong to its E1b1b subclade.” - Fulvio Cruciani et al, Phylogeographic Analysis of Haplogroup E1b1b (E-M215) Y Chromosomes Reveals Multiple Migratory Events Within and Out Of Africa, Am. J. Hum. Genet, p. 74)
quote:Originally posted by Anglo_Pyramidologist:
quote:Care to explain?lol
Y-DNA and MtDNA have no direct link to phenotype. They are only markers of geographical origin. Phenotype = autosomal DNA.
LooooooooooL
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I have always wondered why Africa: the birthplace of modern man, the landmass with the longest continual habitation of humans, has never advanced to any great degree. It has always been that Africans achieved greatness AFTER they left Africa. (Egyptians and Nubians excepted).
Forgetting all the great Black civilizations all over the world for a moment: Even the Berbers, once they left Africa they did this:
But once back in Africa they did nothing comparable.
Which leads me to believe that there is something inherent in African tribalism and it's jealousies which acts to stifle advancement.
I have proven this in the behavior of the ignorant Negro. His mindset is obvious: since he is Black and ignorant, then how could anyone like him (Black) be smart? And he acts on this belief, you would find that he will ignore the teaching of another Black in favor of the teachings of an Albino.
Now in answer to your question:
They lived in Europe, they spoke the European languages, they created the European cultures, they were the nobility and the elites.
What logical reason could you possibility have for doubting that they were indigenous Europeans?
The fact is there is no logical reason; you are merely displaying African tribalism and it's jealousies.
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What is Mike talking about?!?!?!?! After so many brilliant posts, I am struck that he could reach that sort of conclusion. First off, it's a lie that brown and black people came from Africa. Black people are the original inhabitants of this planet. We have been here since the very beginning. Once the continents drifted, then we separated. Otherwise, we were one people and one culture. That's why anthropologists point to an even more ancient and remote civilization to account for the similarities between Egypt, Babylon, the Olmec civilization and many others. Also keep in mind that the meaning of the word Africa has changed frequently, in terms of the land masses it is supposed to represent. In fact, according to "An Introduction to African Civilizations," the author mentions that when the Greeks referred to Ethiopian, or land of the "burned faces," they were referring to all land from what is now West Africa and all the way east to the farthest extent of Asia.Everything we have been taught is a lie. Pick up "When Rocks Cry Out," "America B.C.", and "They Came Before Columbus." But besides that, the place currently referred to as Africa has always had rich and global civilizations. Ethiopia (the Axumite empire) comes to mind. Mali comes to mind. Songhai comes to mind. Carthage comes to mind. Morocco comes to mind. And let's never forget Egypt!!! Why is it that Time magazine named ancient Egypt as the most important city of the world in its 2011 issue? Pick up "Introduction to African Civilizations" and the "Wonderful Ethiopians of the Cushite Empire." Don't fall victim to the groundless bullshit these monsters try to teach us. Your research is brilliant. There is only one human race and we are it. Everyone else came much much later.
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quote:Originally posted by chronicler: What is Mike talking about?!?!?!?! After so many brilliant posts, I am struck that he could reach that sort of conclusion. First off, it's a lie that brown and black people came from Africa. Black people are the original inhabitants of this planet. We have been here since the very beginning. Once the continents drifted, then we separated. Otherwise, we were one people and one culture. That's why anthropologists point to an even more ancient and remote civilization to account for the similarities between Egypt, Babylon, the Olmec civilization and many others. Also keep in mind that the meaning of the word Africa has changed frequently, in terms of the land masses it is supposed to represent. In fact, according to "An Introduction to African Civilizations," the author mentions that when the Greeks referred to Ethiopian, or land of the "burned faces," they were referring to all land from what is now West Africa and all the way east to the farthest extent of Asia.Everything we have been taught is a lie. Pick up "When Rocks Cry Out," "America B.C.", and "They Came Before Columbus." But besides that, the place currently referred to as Africa has always had rich and global civilizations. Ethiopia (the Axumite empire) comes to mind. Mali comes to mind. Songhai comes to mind. Carthage comes to mind. Morocco comes to mind. And let's never forget Egypt!!! Why is it that Time magazine named ancient Egypt as the most important city of the world in its 2011 issue? Pick up "Introduction to African Civilizations" and the "Wonderful Ethiopians of the Cushite Empire." Don't fall victim to the groundless bullshit these monsters try to teach us. Your research is brilliant. There is only one human race and we are it. Everyone else came much much later.
Blacks are not ''the original people of the planet'' on the contrary, you are a RECENT mutation...
''On the basis of genetic and archaeological data, black Africans seem to have radiated from a relatively small West African and possibly pygmy population within the last 20,000 years (Coon, 1962, pp. 651-656; Spurdle et al., 1994; Watson et al., 1996). The time and place of origin can be further narrowed down with linguistic data. Speakers of proto-Niger-Congo broke up c. 10,000 BP and the oldest derived group appear to be proto-Mande speakers, whose descendants inhabit the Niger's headwaters near the Mali-Guinea border (Blench, 1984, pp. 128-129; Ehret, 1984; Murdock, 1959, pp. 44, 64-68).''
''All of these physical and hormonal characteristics seem to have arisen within a narrow timeframe. In sub-Saharan Africa, the beginnings of proto-agriculture cannot be pushed back much further than 12,000 BP. A tall, clearly black African skeleton has been dated to 6,500 BP (Camp, 1974, p. 241; Coon, 1962, pp. 649-650). This leaves a window of barely six thousand years for the changes that differentiate black Africans from their hunter-gatherer ancestors,''
''By 6,000 to 7,000 years ago, the transition to agriculture had been completed in West Africa and these early agriculturalists were able to support much higher population densities than they had as hunter-gatherers. Inevitably, this nucleus of farming populations began to spread outward at the expense of more sparsely distributed Khoisan and pygmy peoples. By about 4,000 BP, the expansion had reached as far east as the middle Nile, when black Africans first appear in paintings from Pharaonic Egypt and in skeletal remains from Nubia (Junker, 1921). About 3,000 BP, another wave of advance began along the Nigerian-Cameroon border and spread rapidly throughout central, eastern, and southern Africa (Cavalli-Sforza, 1986c, pp. 361-362; Diamond, 1997; Oliver, 1966). By 300 AD, pioneering groups had advanced as far south as KwaZulu-Natal''
Frost, quite correctly concludes:
''Thus, black Africans were still absent from most of sub-Saharan Africa even within historic times.''
- * Negroids (Black Africans) are a recent mutation. * They mutated from an ancestral Pygmy population around 10,000 BC in West Africa. * Until 2,000 BC they were absent from North Africa and only appeared in Egypt around 2000 BC. * Caucasoids predate Blacks in Egypt by 10,000 years.
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quote:Originally posted by Confirming Truth: Mike overlooks the obvious (purposefully, of course). Blacks outside Africa are admixed with European Whites. It is the European blood in these Blacks that gives them the cognitive means to achieve levels of success true African Negroes can't.
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quote:Originally posted by Confirming Truth: Mike overlooks the obvious (purposefully, of course). Blacks outside Africa are admixed with European Whites. It is the European blood in these Blacks that gives them the cognitive means to achieve levels of success true African Negroes can't.
Yep.
African-Americans are on average 12 - 15 % White.
It's why their IQ's are higher than pure-blooded Negroids in sub-sahara africa -
Still though the African-American is far lower in IQ than a pure-blooded Caucasoid/White.
WTF!?!
One of the highest achievers in African-American history was Marcus Garvey, a man who created the largest African-American movement in the nation's history.
How much European influence do you believe was in Garvey as opposed to the #2 dude, W.E.B.DuBois, who didn't actually start the NAACP, but took orders from it's real creators, Ashkenazi Jews?
That's right, I'm back, and I have loads of new OCA gene information to drop on those flat-lined noggins.
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