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Princess how many times and ways do I have to say this. Modern European do not really have a home land perse. Because there is no race. Lazaridis and subsequent studies confirm modern European are admixeture of older OOA and recent OOA. ie Neolithics being the younger of the two who brought in pale skin. Keeping in mind. ANE/WHG can be divided into a further two separate population. As I told some of the clowns on the other forum before I was kicked out. These “black” Europeans also had freckles but they did not know it. The fool missed that. So Loschour was a black guy with freckles. The irony. Who would have thought? lol! These racialist! Tsk! tsk!
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See. Other scientist are catching on to my mantra. I did not right this. Seriously(tough in cheek). Mike just posted it. Haven't read it fully. The opening statement says it all. This is a foregone conclusion.


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ST. LOUIS, MISSOURI — Most of us think of Europe as the ancestral home of white people. But a new study shows that pale skin, as well as other traits such as tallness and the ability to digest milk as adults, ARRIVED in most of the continent relatively RECENTLY. The work, presented here last week at the 84th annual meeting of the American Association of Physical Anthropologists, offers dramatic evidence of recent evolution in Europe and shows that most modern Europeans don’t look much like those of 8000 years ago.

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Oh! and the pale skin and blue eyes......and freckles He! He! He! did not arrived with the black skin, black eyes Yamyana...Just saying if your wondering.

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So Xy-YT-Hater what you are saying is there is no place on earth White people belong right??
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Apparently not Doxie....this might explain you people hostility to everyone.

In any event, there is still plenty of space in Central Asia.....you guys can go back there.......just dont stir up the Mongols again....they have a history of driving you out....

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^ lol! They may not be welcomed there either. Mongols may have a problem with that.

But were you that slow in high school warrioress? 80% Neolithic means "80% what? Europeans are depigmented Africans. Mike prefers the scientific label ..Albinoids. But from Asia.

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So, prior to 5000ya, Europe was the homeland of blacks of the Makrani, Andaman type. Dr Winters prefer to call them Negros because of their phenotype.

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Xy-YT-Hater just answer the dang question & quit running from it. Did you did you not say that White people have no where on earth that we belong?? Yes or No, what is so hard about that?

No Whitey hater boy, I was an A/B and occasionally a straight A student except my senior year when I goofed off & rarely studied & occasionally didn't do my schoolwork (I'd lie to my dad & tell him we didn't have any because he'd want to check it after I was done & would make me sit there & do it over & over again until I got everything right) still managed to graduate on time and with a 3.0 gpa (I know a C average but hey I was 6wks behind in some of my classes) after coming from a school with block scheduling to a school with regular scheduling & coming in 6wks behind everyone else to boot.

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Ok. So we got your education out of the way. Now, this may be difficult for you to grasp ....who are the Neolithics?

Btw. You should try to finish it is not too late. It would do wonders for your run on sentences and structure.

Take a page from Swenet or Mike they are probably the best on the site when it comes good sentence structure.

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Please explain how this widespread depigmenting occurred.

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Xy-YT-Hater, I did finish high school thanks. I just never went to college. BTW, I don't give a crap about grammar. Answer the dang question Xy-YT-Hater stop running from it.
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quote:
Originally posted by kdolo:
Please explain how this widespread depigmenting occurred.

Populations back then were very small, this is the first thing we need to understand when speaking of this hurdles.up to only a few hundred.
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quote:
Originally posted by CelticWarrioress:
Xy-YT-Hater, I did finish high school thanks. I just never went to college. BTW, I don't give a crap about grammar. Answer the dang question Xy-YT-Hater stop running from it.

Dox, by now we who the true hater is/ was on here. After years in the making, we have seen your ilk Storm Roof doing his thing/ shootings in the Church. Like the demon he is. You always have supported this kind of action and act of violence, of which I have asked you repeatedly.
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quote:
Originally posted by Troll Patrol # Ish Gebor:
quote:
Originally posted by CelticWarrioress:
Xy-YT-Hater, I did finish high school thanks. I just never went to college. BTW, I don't give a crap about grammar. Answer the dang question Xy-YT-Hater stop running from it.

Dox, by now we who the true hater is/ was on here. After years in the making, we have seen your ilk Storm Roof doing his thing/ shootings in the Church. Like the demon he is. You always have supported this kind of action and act of violence, of which I have asked you repeatedly.
why are you telling racist lies?

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Originally posted by CelticWarrioress:
Ok its time to be real for once. My heart goes out to the friends & families of those who lost their lives in this tragedy. Now that they have caught the monster responsible I hope that they give him the death penalty as that is what he deserves.


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quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:
Originally posted by Troll Patrol # Ish Gebor:
quote:
Originally posted by CelticWarrioress:
Xy-YT-Hater, I did finish high school thanks. I just never went to college. BTW, I don't give a crap about grammar. Answer the dang question Xy-YT-Hater stop running from it.

Dox, by now we who the true hater is/ was on here. After years in the making, we have seen your ilk Storm Roof doing his thing/ shootings in the Church. Like the demon he is. You always have supported this kind of action and act of violence, of which I have asked you repeatedly.
why are you telling racist lies?

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Ok its time to be real for once. My heart goes out to the friends & families of those who lost their lives in this tragedy. Now that they have caught the monster responsible I hope that they give him the death penalty as that is what he deserves.


There is history here of Dox being a white supremacist and sympathetic right winger and everyone knows it. That's the racism that has been exposed. For you to call this exposure racist makes you look like a loony. Oh wait ... you actually are a loony.


And yes I gave her/ him credit for making those bolt statements, which convenient left out. But more needs to be done by Dox, if it is suppose to be convincing. "For now they are being seen as crocodile tears. Racist lies" O_o the one who is known for doing this is you!!!!

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quote:
Originally posted by Troll Patrol # Ish Gebor:


And yes I gave her/ him credit for making those bolt statements, which convenient left out.

you didn't give credit

you pretended she never said that and then you made up lies that she supported the murders

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All answers are on ESR. This is a done deal. Most geneticists knows that Eg it is only during the Copper Age white skin became dominant in Europe. Prior to that, ALL Europeans were black skinned.
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quote:
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Please explain how this widespread depigmenting occurred.


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Who brought in the gene ?.....Neolithics

How did it happen😆? Selective sweep. And I am not taking sexual preference, you will here that excuse a lot. No! It is the simple removal of the constraint. Mekova and Rees et al.

What is puzzling is "why"? Europeans remained black for 25ky!!! And Neanderthal was also black skinned for 300,000YEARS!!!!

These ancient humaniods essentially remained unchanged until these "new" humans entered
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quote:
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All answers are on ESR. This is a done deal. Most geneticists knows that Eg it is only during the Copper Age white skin became dominant in Europe. Prior to that, ALL Europeans were black skinned.
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quote:
Originally posted by kdolo:
Please explain how this widespread depigmenting occurred.


folks this is one of xyyman's doctored charts

he routine leaves off the title of the article in his doctored charts to try to fool you into thinking it was part of the original, hide the source he ripped off and remove the context of the rest of the article

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quote:
Originally posted by xyyman:
Who brought in the gene ?.....Neolithics

How did it happen😆? Selective sweep. And I am not taking sexual preference, you will here that excuse a lot. No! It is the simple removal of the constraint. Mekova and Rees et al.

What is puzzling is "why"? Europeans remained black for 25ky!!! And Neanderthal was also black skinned for 300,000YEARS!!!!


"black" is an not an athropological term

Why did Europeans and East Asians have dark skin for a long time and then only in the past seveval thousand years?


The Neolithics entered Europe from the Turkish region about 7,500 years ago

They brought with them farming technology

-and that is a change in diet

the sweep for lactose intolerance, another example

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quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:
Originally posted by Troll Patrol # Ish Gebor:


And yes I gave her/ him credit for making those bolt statements, which convenient left out.

you didn't give credit

you pretended she never said that and then you made up lies that she supported the murders

You are delusional as usually and lie as usually. What's new?

quote:
This was very unexpected.


There is hope after all. God works in mysterious ways.

http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=15;t=010152;p=1#000006

Soon after that Doxie returned to the old habit.

Ps, All I have to do is search for Doxie and Egyptsearch and a whole shitlist of right wing racist rant rolls out. Very much in coherence with that of Strom Roof.

http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=15;t=008275;p=1#000015


http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=15;t=006846;p=1#000007

And you certainly are not to speak on what's racism, when you support the "real negro theory". Yet, support the "caucasoid diversity".

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quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:
Originally posted by xyyman:
All answers are on ESR. This is a done deal. Most geneticists knows that Eg it is only during the Copper Age white skin became dominant in Europe. Prior to that, ALL Europeans were black skinned.

quote:
Originally posted by kdolo:
Please explain how this widespread depigmenting occurred.


folks this is one of xyyman's doctored charts

he routine leaves off the title of the article in his doctored charts to try to fool you into thinking it was part of the original, hide the source he ripped off and remove the context of the rest of the article

Sounds very much like what you are doing all the time, 9.10, now you accuse others of doing it?


https://doc-14-ag-docs.googleusercontent.com/docs/securesc/ha0ro937gcuc7l7deffksulhg5h7mbp1/fro5ucggtt7n05pvjamf9gdn5jdg6nku/1434967200000/10718852151634554628/*/0B9o3EYTdM8lQTk1Zd WpkMlF5dWs?e=download

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quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:
Originally posted by xyyman:
Who brought in the gene ?.....Neolithics

How did it happen😆? Selective sweep. And I am not taking sexual preference, you will here that excuse a lot. No! It is the simple removal of the constraint. Mekova and Rees et al.

What is puzzling is "why"? Europeans remained black for 25ky!!! And Neanderthal was also black skinned for 300,000YEARS!!!!


"black" is an not an athropological term

Why did Europeans and East Asians have dark skin for a long time and then only in the past seveval thousand years?


The Neolithics entered Europe from the Turkish region about 7,500 years ago

They brought with them farming technology

-and that is a change in diet

the sweep for lactose intolerance, another example

What has your "Dozal argument" to do with anything?


quote:

Lactase persistence is a genetic trait enabling life-long digestion of the milk sugar lactose. The ability to rely on ruminant secondary products, such as milk, likely conveyed selective advantage during times of resource scarcity, and genetic lactase persistence has independently evolved at least five times in European, Middle Eastern, and African populations. Previous ancient DNA studies have established that genetic lactase persistence was low or absent in most European Neolithic populations. In this study, we show that the frequency of lactase persistence in medieval Germany (72%) is similar to that found today in Germany and Austria (71–80%), suggesting that the incomplete selective sweep of the lactase persistence allele may have reached the present allele frequency in western Central Europe by AD 1200. Although many aspects of the origin and early evolutionary history of the T-13910 LP allele remain uncertain, ancient DNA research has made great strides in narrowing the period of European LP selection to an approximately 4,000 year window spanning 3000 BC to AD 1200. Future ancient studies on this period are likely to reveal the specific evolutionary forces acting on the T-13910 allele and the relationship between dairying and LP genotypes.

--Annina Krüttli

Ancient DNA Analysis Reveals High Frequency of European Lactase Persistence Allele (T-13910) in Medieval Central Europe

Published: January 23, 2014DOI: 10.1371/journal.pone.0086251


http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0086251


Tishkoff's team estimates that the most successful of the African lactose tolerance mutations arose within the last 7000 years and quickly spread through dairying populations.


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Got lactase?


In the US and many other countries, we've certainly "got milk," but not everyone can enjoy it. For around 10% of Americans, 10% of Africa's Tutsi tribe, 50% of Spanish and French people, and 99% of Chinese, a tall cold glass of milk means an upset stomach and other unpleasant digestive side effects.

In fact, most adults in the world are lactose intolerant and cannot digest lactose, the primary sugar in milk.

And yet, regardless of our ancestry, most of us began our lives happily drinking milk from a bottle or breast — so what happened in the intervening time? Why do so many babies enjoy lactose and so many adults avoid it? Lactose is broken down by a protein called lactase, which acts as a pair of molecular scissors, snipping the lactose molecule in two. Anyone who drank milk as a baby carries a working version of the gene that codes for lactase. In lactose tolerant individuals, that gene keeps working into adulthood, producing the protein that digests lactose and makes eating ice cream a pleasant experience. But in people who are lactose intolerant, that lactase gene is switched off after weaning. Now, new research reveals that the Stone Age ancestors of European dairy-lovers probably couldn't digest milk either. So how did they get from bellyaches to milk mustaches? The answer is an evolutionary story that takes us from the milkmaids of the Alps to the Maasai herdsmen of Africa.


Where's the evolution?


Mutations that keep the lactase gene permanently switched on are common among modern Europeans — but not among their ancestors. In March 2007, a team of German and British researchers announced that they went looking for that mutation in the 7000-year-old fossils of ancient Europeans and came up empty-handed.

The researchers managed to extract the length of DNA corresponding to the lactose tolerance mutation from eight Neolithic human fossils and one Mesolithic fossil, but those DNA sequences did not carry the telltale mutation. The results suggest that as late as 5000 BC most ancient Europeans could not have digested milk as adults — and that they only later evolved into milk-drinking societies.



http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/news/070401_lactose
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quote:
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http://egyptsearchreloaded.proboards.com/post/13142/quote/1897?page=1

Who brought in the gene ?.....Neolithics

How did it happen😆? Selective sweep. And I am not taking sexual preference, you will here that excuse a lot. No! It is the simple removal of the constraint. Mekova and Rees et al.

What is puzzling is "why"? Europeans remained black for 25ky!!! And Neanderthal was also black skinned for 300,000YEARS!!!!

These ancient humaniods essentially remained unchanged until these "new" humans entered
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Bump

Xyman this is easily explained by this idea that I've wrote on ESR:

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"Xyman this is my idea on what happened, take a look at this:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_epidemics
ca. 75,000 - 100,000 Greece 429–426 BC Known as Plague of Athens, because it was primarily in Athens. unknown, similar to typhoid

ca. 30% of population Europe, Western Asia, Northern Africa 165–180 Known as Antonine Plague, due to the name of the Roman emperor in power at the time. unknown, symptoms similar to smallpox

Europe 250-266 AD Know as the Plague of Cyprian named after St. Cyprian Bishop of Carthage. unknown, possibly smallpox

ca. 40% of population Europe 541–542 Known as Plague of Justinian, due to the name of the
Byzantine emperor in power at the time. Bubonic plague [1]

30% to 70% of population Europe 1346–1350 Known as "Black Death" or Second plague pandemic, first return of the plague to Europe after the Justinianic plague of the 6th century. plague
Plagues and disease outbreaks in early Europe. "

Obviously Europe's original population were wiped out by these plagues and diseases, and these were the black Europeans. Also Black Europe's civilizations started declining population wise, and the women were not having enough children and became decadent. Society started becoming meaningless and vapid and decadent and hedonistic, because of this Black/Brown Europeans started declining in numbers in population. Then this happened:


"The Migration Period, better known as the Barbarian Invasions also referred to as the Völkerwanderung (in German),[1] was a period of intensified barbarian invasion in Europe, often defined from the period when it seriously impacted the Roman world, as running from about 376 to 800 AD[2][3] during the transition from Late Antiquity to the Early Middle Ages. This period was marked by profound changes both within the Roman Empire and beyond its "barbarian frontier". The barbarians who came first were Germanic tribes such as the Goths, Vandals, Angles, Saxons, Lombards, Suebi, Frisii, Jutes and Franks; they were later pushed westwards by the Huns, Avars, Slavs, Bulgars and Alans.[4] Later barbarian invasions (such as the Viking, Norman, Hungarian, Moorish, Turkic, and Mongol invasions) also had significant effects (especially in North Africa, the Iberian peninsula, Anatolia and Central and Eastern Europe); however, they are outside the scope of the Migration Period"


These people became the mainstream white europeans and re-populated Europe in huge numbers becoming the modern white people we associate with Europeans. The Black Europeans were already outnumbered and overrun and only consisted of a little less then half the population of Europe proper during this time period.


Then this happened:
https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-51709-post-1150682.html#pid1150682

"You don't know your history. Most of those Greeks and Romans had disappeared in the Western half of the Roman Empire by 400 AD due to insufficient birthrates. Both the women and men were corrupted, with few caring about creating strong families. The men constantly seeking power and engaged in costly civil wars while the women were vapid and materialistic.


Well over 80% of the fresh population into Southern and Western Europe came from the Germanic Barbarians. We know this because the Latin language all but disappeared (as it's practitioners went extinct) and the only people who survived to chronicle it all were the Christian monks and scholars who also were the only literate ones, along with a small class of Latin Roman nobles.


Meanwhile, in the Eastern Roman Empire, Latin was already dying out to be replaced by Greek. The Greeks in Turkey would end up meeting an unfortunate fate and they too would die out due to plagues, invasion, and political corruption, while Western Europe made a comeback.


The barbarians who became the majority of Europe's ancestors were clannish to the extreme; I have read accounts where if one family so much as insulted another family, it would result in both families engaging in a brawl to the death. Things as simple as accidentally taking someone else's fork in a Tavern could result in the death of dozens. Inbreeding was rampant as trust between families was very low. Disease, malnutrition, birth death for mothers, defects, etc. was very common.


It was the Christian survivors of Rome who began the arduous process of converting the barbarians, and one of their major accomplishments was to break down the rigid clans whose patriarchs could dictate life and death of all it's members. Christians also taught these barbarians the rule of law and to hold individuals accountable rather than entire families guilty for the crime of just one member.


Finally, the Christians rounded up the many single children and bastard children of the last Romans, and intermarried them into the Germanic barbarian population.


Now, would Whites have survived without Christianity? Maybe. But I don't need to contest that. I just need to show that the vast majority of Europeans today came from the Christian practices of family and law, that Modern Europeans are successful hybrid creations between Germanic barbarians and the last Romans, and that it was the only real force for legal authority for nearly 1000 years in Western Europe after Western Rome's collapse whose traditions remained dominant well into the 20th century.


However, my personal opinion is that the Whites would have remained in the bronze age or close to it without Christianity. I infer this because the Byzantines encountered many different groups of White Alpine people's to the north of the Baltic sea as well as in the Balkans who were all pagan. Again, these Whites were extremely violent, illiterate, clannish, and brutish by any comparison to a White today or a Byzantine Greek back then. They were further behind on the evolutionary scale.


It wasn't until the Byzantines managed to convert these peoples around them did their ascent into a stronger civilization began. To support my thesis that Whites would not be anything today without Christianity, many of these same White groups (Russians, Hungarians, Slovakians, etc.) who converted ended up being the same White groups to resist Islam after they conquered the Byzantines in 1453 and keep them out of Europe. Just like the Crusades, without Christianity to unite the Whites they would have fallen separately to Islamic invasion, and there are many accounts to attest to this.


So, to recap, this isn't crazy history, this all happened and there is extensive research into this subject already. I learned about it after reading a book by Harvard professor called Family and Civilization by Carle C. Zimmerman (a Talmudic Jew, so we know it's not just some Christian apologist who wants to make his faith look good) who spoke fluent Latin and Greek and read quite literally thousands of ancient sources before concluding on the above thesis. This book was his life's achievement. Many, many writers back in ancient times talked about the birth dearth, as well as the Christians efforts to civilize the Germanic hordes.


Eventually, the Germanic barbarians stopped speaking their Gallic tongues but did not speak Latin either; the fusion between Gallic and Latin became what we know today as "Italian." By the time Dante wrote his Inferno in 1300, Italian had become the de facto language of the country and Dante's work is widely considered the first real Italian story to set the standard of the language.


Also, for those who are curious:


Spanish = Arab (from their Moorish rulers) + Latin

French = Latin + Nordics

Modern English = Old English + French


The evolution of languages can tell us what groups were reproducing and where.


Thus, when you see those ancient pictures of Socrates above, know that you are looking at a strain of White genes that almost went extinct before Christianity saved it to create the far more superior Whites out of barbarian stock."

Besides the Ancient Greeks being white part which is wrong, this is exactly how it was in Europe with barbarian tribes back then.


Europe becoming overpopulated with central asian albino's and other albino's and so conflict occurred naturally:

"1066 Norman Conquest
1096 - 1291 Crusades
1096 - 1099 First Crusade
1101 Crusade of 1101
1147 - 1149 Second Crusade
1187 - 1191 Third Crusade
1202 - 1204 Fourth Crusade
1209 - 1229 Albigensian Crusade
1212 Children's Crusade (Often believed to be just a story)
1217 - 1221 Fifth Crusade
1228 Sixth Crusade
1248 - 1254 Seventh Crusade
1270 Eighth Crusade
1271 - 1291 Ninth Crusade
1293 - 1323 War between Sweden and Novgorod ended up with Treaty of Nöteborg
1296 - 1328 First War of Scottish Independence
1332 - 1333 Second War of Scottish Independence
1337 - 1453 Hundred Years' War
1341 - 1364 Breton War of Succession
1420 - 1436 Hussite Wars
1454 - 1466 Thirteen Years' War. Between Poland and Teutonic Knights, which finally broke the power of the latter.
1455 - 1485 Wars of the Roses
1474 - 1477 War between the Duchy of Burgundy and the Swiss Confederation
1478 - War between the Principality of Moscow and the Republic of Novgorod. The latter was conquered.
1494 - 1559 Italian Wars
1494 - 1498 Charles VIII's Italian War
1499 - 1500 Louis XII's war with Milan
1500 - 1502 Franco-Spanish Conquest of Naples
1502 - 1505 Franco-Spanish War over Naples
1508 - 1510 War of the League of Cambrai
1510 - 1513 War of the Holy League
1511 - 1514 Anglo-French War
1513 Anglo-Scottish War (Battle of Flodden)
1515 - 1516 Francis I's first Italian war
1521 - 1525 First war of Francis and Charles V
1521-1525 Anglo-French War
1526 - 1529 War of the League of Cognac
1536 - 1538 Third War of Francis and Charles
1542 - 1544 Last War of Francis and Charles
1542 - 1546 Anglo-French War
1542 - 1550 Anglo-Scottish War
1549 - 1550 Anglo-French War
1552 - 1559 Last Italian War
1557 - 1559 Anglo-French War
1495 - 1497 Russo-Swedish War
1499 - 1503 Turkish-Venetian War1509 - 1513 Ottoman Civil War
1514 - 1516 Ottoman-Safavid War
1515 - 1523 Rebellion of the Frisians
1516 - 1517 Ottoman-Mamluk War
1521 - 1523 The Swedish War of Liberation
1521 - 1523 Uprising of the Comuneros in Castile
1521 - 1526 Ottoman-Hungarian War
1522 Ottoman Conquest of Rhodes
1522 The Knights' War in Germany
1524 - 1525 The Peasants' War in Germany
1526 - 1528 Hungarian Civil War
1526 - 1555 Ottoman-Safavid War
1528 - 1533 Ottoman-Habsburg War in Hungary
1531 Swiss Civil War between Zürich and the Catholic cantons
1532 - 1546 Ottoman-Habsburg War in the Mediterranean
1533 - 1536 The Counts' War in Denmark
1537 - 1544 Renewed Ottoman-Habsburg War in Hungary
1546 - 1547 Schmalkaldic War
1551 - 1562 Ottoman-Habsburg War in Hungary
1551 - 1581 Ottoman-Habsburg War in the Mediterranean (Battle of Lepanto (1571))
1552 - 1555 Charles V's war with Maurice of Saxony
1554 - 1557 Great Russian War
1557 - 1571 Livonian War
1559 - 1560 Scottish Rebellion against the French
1562 - 1598 Wars of Religion in France, also called War of the Three Henries or Huguenot Wars

1562 - 1563 First War of Religion
1567 - 1568 Second War of Religion
1568 - 1570 Third War of Religion
1572 - 1573 Fourth War of Religion
1575 - 1576 Fifth War of Religion
1576 - 1577 Sixth War of Religion
1580 Seventh War of Religion (Lovers' War)
1585 - 1598 Eighth War of Religion
1589 - 1598 Franco-Spanish War
1562 - 1568 Ottoman-Habsburg War in Hungary
1563 - 1570 Northern Seven Years' War also known as Dano-Swedish War
1566 (or 1568) - 1648 Eighty Years' War (war of Dutch independence)
1566(or 1568) - 1609 First Phase
1621 - 1648 Second Phase
1567 - 1573 Scottish Civil War
1568 - 1571 Morisco Revolt in Spain
1570 - 1595 Twenty-five Years' War between Sweden and Russia
1577 - 1582 Livonian War (Poland vs. Russia)
1577 - 1590 Turkish-Persian War
1580 - 1583 Portuguese Civil War
1585 - 1604 Anglo-Spanish War (Spanish Armada, 1588)
1590 - 1606 "Long War" between the Empire and the Turks
1594 - 1603 Tyrone Rebellion in Ireland
1596 - 1597 The Cudgel War in Finland
1600 - 1611 Polish-Swedish War

1602 - 1612 Turkish-Persian War
1609 - 1618 Russo-Polish War
1610 - 1617 Ingrian War between Sweden and Russia
1611 - 1613 War of Kalmar between Sweden and Denmark
1613 - 1617 Russo-Swedish War
1614 - 1621 Polish-Turkish War
1616 - 1618 Turkish-Persian War
1617 - 1629 Polish-Swedish War
1618 - 1648 Thirty Years' War across Europe, ends with the Peace of Westphalia.
1618 - 1625 Bohemian/Palatine Phase
1618 - 1629 Austro-Transylvanian War
1625 - 1629 Danish Phase
1625 - 1630 Anglo-Spanish War
1626 - 1630 Anglo-French War
1627 - 1631 War of the Mantuan Succession
1630 - 1635 Swedish Phase
1635 - 1648 French Phase
1635 - 1659 Franco-Spanish War (ending with the Treaty of the Pyrenees)
1645 Renewed Austro-Transylvanian War
1623 - 1638 Turkish-Persian War
1625 - 1629 Huguenot Uprising in France
1632 - 1634 Russo-Polish War
1634 Polish-Swedish War
1637 Pequot War
1639 - 1652 English Civil War

1639 First Bishops' War
1640 Second Bishops' War
1641 - 1650 Irish War
1642 - 1646 First Civil War
1648 Second Civil War
1650 - 1652 Scottish Uprising
1640 - 1656 Catalan Revolt
1640 - 1668 Portuguese War of Independence
1645 - 1670 Turkish-Venetian War
1648 - 1653 The Fronde
1648 - 1649 First Fronde
1650 - 1653 Second Fronde
1648 - 1660 The Deluge/Northern Wars, A series of wars involving Poland, Sweden, Brandenburg, Russia and Transylvania and Denmark
1648 - 1654 Cossack Revolt against Poland
1654 - 1656 Russo-Polish War
1655 - 1656 Swedish-Brandenburg War
1655 - 1660 Polish-Swedish War
1656 - 1658 Russo-Swedish War
1656 - 1660 Danish-Swedish War
1657 - 1660 Dutch-Swedish War
1658 - 1667 Russo-Polish War
1652 - 1654 First Anglo-Dutch War
1656 - 1659 Anglo-Spanish War
1657 - 1662 Turkish-Transylvanian War
1662 - 1664 Austro-Turkish War

1665 - 1667 Second Anglo-Dutch War preceded by the capture of New Amsterdam, renamed New York City
1667 - 1668 War of Devolution
1671 - 1676 Polish-Turkish War
1672 - 1678 Dutch War
1672 - 1674 Third Anglo-Dutch War
1672 - 1679 War between Brandenburg and Sweden
1675 - 1679 Scanian War between Sweden and Denmark
1675 - 1676 King Philip's War
1678 - 1681 Russo-Turkish War
1682 - 1699 War of the Holy League (Austria, Venice, and Poland vs. Ottomans
1685 Monmouth's Rebellion
1688 - 1697 War of the Grand Alliance
1689 - 1691 Irish Jacobite Uprising
1695 - 1700 Russo-Turkish War
1700 - 1721 Great Northern War between a coalition of Denmark/Norway, Russia and Saxony/Poland on one side and Sweden on the other side
1710 - 1711 Russo-Turkish War, 1710-11, a part of the Great Northern War
1715 - 1717 Polish revolt against King Augustus II
1701 - 1714 War of Spanish Succession
1702 - 1713 Queen Anne's War The North American part of the War of Spanish Succession
1703 - 1711 Hungarian Revolt
1714 - 1718 Turko-Venetian War
1715 - 1716 Jacobite Rebellion also known as "The Fifteen"
1716 - 1718 Austro-Turkish War
1718 - 1720 War of the Quadruple Alliance

1722 - 1723 Russo-Persian War 1722-1723
1722 - 1727 Turco-Persian War
1727 - 1729 largely bloodless Spanish war with England and France
1730 - 1736 Turco-Persian War
1733 - 1738 War of the Polish Succession
1736 - 1739 Russo-Turkish War
1737 - 1739 Austro-Turkish War
1740 - 1748 War of the Austrian Succession
1739 - 1748 War of Jenkins' Ear
1740 - 1742 1st Silesian War
1741 - 1743 Hats' Russian War between Sweden and Russia
1744 - 1748 King George's War The North American part of the War of Austrian Succession
1744 - 1745 2nd Silesian War
1744 - 1748 First Carnatic War
1745 - 1746 "The Forty-five"
1743 - 1747 Turco-Persian War
1749 - 1754 Second Carnatic War
1756 - 1763 Seven Years' War, known as the French and Indian War in the United States, and also 3rd Silesian War
1761 - 1763 Spanish-Portuguese War
1763 - 1766 Pontiac's Rebellion
1768 - 1774 Russo-Turkish War
1768 - 1776 War of the Confederation of Bar in Poland
1773 - 1774 Pugachev's Rebellion
1774 - 1783 First Anglo-Maratha War
1775 - 1783 American Revolutionary War

1778 - 1783 Anglo-French War
1779 - 1783 Anglo-Spanish War
1780 - 1784 Anglo-Dutch War
1777 - 1779 War of the Bavarian Succession
1785 - 1787 Dutch Civil War
1787 - 1791 Austro-Turkish War
1787 - 1792 Russo-Turkish War
1788 - 1790 Gustav III's Russian War also known as Russo-Swedish War
1791 - 1804 Haiti Revolutionary War
1792 War in defence of the constitution in Poland
1792 - 1802 French Revolutionary Wars
1792 - 1797 War of the First Coalition
1792 - 1795 Franco-Prussian War
1792 - 1797 Franco-Austrian War
1793 - 1795 Franco-Spanish War
1793 - 1795 Franco-Dutch War
1793 - 1802 Franco-British War
1798 - 1801 War of the Second Coalition
1798 - 1799 Franco-Russian War
1799 - 1801 Franco-Austrian War
1798 - 1801 Quasi War
1794 Kosciuszko Uprising in Poland
1795 - 1798 United Irishmen Revolt
Combined with this":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Ice_Age


"The Little Ice Age (LIA) was a period of cooling that occurred after the Medieval Warm Period (Medieval Climate Optimum).[1] While it was not a true ice age, the term was introduced into the scientific literature by François E. Matthes in 1939.[2] It has been conventionally defined as a period extending from the sixteenth to the nineteenth centuries,[3][4][5] or alternatively, from about 1300[6] to about 1850,[7][8][9] although climatologists and historians working with local records no longer expect to agree on either the start or end dates of this period, which varied according to local conditions. The NASA Earth Observatory notes three particularly cold intervals: one beginning about 1650, another about 1770, and the last in 1850, each separated by intervals of slight warming.[5] The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change Third Assessment Report considered the timing and areas affected by the LIA suggested largely independent regional climate changes, rather than a globally synchronous increased glaciation. At most there was modest cooling of the Northern Hemisphere during the period.[10]


Several causes have been proposed: cyclical lows in solar radiation, heightened volcanic activity, changes in the ocean circulation, an inherent variability in global climate, or DECREASES in the human population"

The Black Europeans were all exterminated, absorbed, died or sent to the new world as slaves after and during all this happening. Then this happened:

"Now you don't seem to understand the big picture of my theory/idea and the significance of it in explaining who these european albino's are. Otherwise you would realize just how relevant it is.

When we look at traditional "white groups" in Europe, such as Germans/Scandinavians/Irish/ etc etc etc, we find a confusing set of DNA patterns and genes.

First we find that even modern day Europeans have major non-white haplogroups as their primary DNA markers, and they are primarily from different areas of the globe. We find that they have afro-asiatic haplogroup R1b and Eurasian haplogroup R1a and a spattering of other african rooted black genes as well.

Accordingly they should be pretty dark and "normal" looking which they aren't. Except for areas in Southern Europe, even the Europeans with african or foreign haplogroups are extremely white looking or just not "normal" looking.

The obvious explanation is of course albinism, but what gets confusing is the combination of genes that they have and why White Europeans look distinct from even Dravidian and African albino's to an extent, which you can see if you look at pictures carefully.


It seems as though they are a distinct race of albino's that even the skeptic will find it hard to believe they are albino's just based on their distinctive looks alone. So there has to be an explanation; Cavorlli-Savofza and all the genetic studies proves the genetics of these "white groups" and how black rooted and dravidian rooted they are but still the puzzle remains as to their distinct appearance from other albino populations.

Yet these people are some of the most albino looking on earth and yet how did they come to be so white, despite carrying all these dark group genes like R1b and R1a? And how did they evolve as a distinct group themselves from the rest of the planet? Even the albino Nuristani, Kalash, and Afghans look kinda different from white Europeans despite sharing similar genes like R1a!

And how come there are so many of them in Europe today when albinism is rare? Surely the climate of Europe has to be favorable to someone with albinism as well as the geography.


So my explanation is the answer to all this:

Here is what happened in simple terms:

1)Europe was settled by Blacks from Africa, some of whom had albino's of their own, as seen by the blue eyes of the hunter gatherers there A MAJOR CLUE! They carried genetic haplogroup R1b and genes like I etc etc.

2) The favorable climate of Europe towards these albino's who carried R1b, allowed them to seek refuge in caves, in mountains and in the northern parts of Europe, allowing them to inbreed with each other and hide from black europeans. They breed a sizable population of themselves in Europe.

3) Europe still had a sizable black European population all over, and they start giving these Black European albino's, who carried R1b, the tanzanian treatment and start attacking and enslaving them and preventing them into their civilizations in Europe.

4) The Dravidian albino's have started settling Eurasia and Central Asia/Siberia in general, aka the Kurgan people; they start tearing down forests and just being expansionary people. They hear about more fertile places and better places in Europe, the Middle East, South Asia etc. Competition with themselves and Mongoloids bring them to arrive in these locations in waves with the horse.

These people carried haplogroup R1a, and are mostly R1a in genetic composition, they are the present day dravidian albino's of Eastern Europe and the Baltics who are also mostly R1a.

5) The first wave of Dravidian albino's arrive in Europe and immediately there is conflict between them and the Black Europeans. The Black Europeans are forced to accommodate the Dravidian albino's because they have superior cavalry in terms of how many horses they have brought with them. This results in the greek "centaur myth".

6) The Dravidian albino's breed and mix with the black Europeans AND WITH THE ALBINO BLACK EUROPEANS AS WELL! The Dravidian albino's allowed some of the black European R1b albino's some freedom.

7) There are still Black European albino's scattered across Europe, and in particular northern european since Europe is thickly covered in forests.

8) Fast forward several hundred years, civilizations and societies are popping up all over Europe with the expansion of the Greeks and the Roman empire. Black Europeans start increasing in population AS WELL AS THEIR ALBINO'S WHO CARRIED R1b AND SOME OF THE MIXED R1a/R1b Dravidian Albino/Black European mixed people!

9) Due to conflict, wars, need for more land and resources, more and more Dravidian Albino's start coming in waves like illegal mexican immigrants, INTO EUROPE, as a result of the expansion of the Hunnic/Mongolian empires of the Central Asia steppes, as well their failure to secure land in area in the Middle East due to defeats at the hands of people like the Assyrians.

10) This huge population influx of nomadic steppe barbaric dravidian albino's and the resultant conflict with the Huns/mongoloids, causes a disturbance of the status quo and black european civilizations in Europe.

11) By the time the waves of Dravidian albino's start arriving in Europe, there are already a large number of R1b Black European albino's as WELL AS MIXED R1a DRAVIDIAN/EUROPEAN BLACK MIXED OFF-SPRING!

12) The huge albino migrant population in Europe, hailing from Central Asia, are seen as how Mexicans are seen today in the U.S, by the black Europeans. They start demanding power and start to seek to usurp and take over Europe.

13) They ally with the mixed black Europeans and R1b Black European albino population of Europe and attack Black European society and civilization. They rampage and destroy most of black European civilization such as in the thirty years war and the fall of the Roman empire. THEY HOWEVER MIX WITH THE R1B BLACK EUROPEAN ALBINO POPULATIONS!

14) The Dravidian/Black European Albino mix population have a demographic upperhand and a numerical upperhand in population due to the decline of black European civilization in Europe due to time by now.

15) Eventually the Black Europeans and the mixed non-albino Black Europeans are either exterminated, killed, or sent off to different places but particularly in the New world, by the combination of Black European albino's and Dravidian albino's.

16) This increases and whitens Europe's main demographics tremendously, and the Dravidian and Black European albino's have now bred with each other extensively RESULTING IN MODERN WESTERN/EUROPEAN POPULATIONS TODAY!

17) This explains how Western Europeans and even Central Europeans are so goddamn albino white today DESPITE CARRYING ALL THESE DIFFERENT AFRICAN/WOG GENES AND STILL BEING SO GODDAMN WHITE!

18) This explains the HUGE PRESENCE, of haplogroup R1b in Western Europe, WHICH THE DRAVIDIAN ALBINO'S DO NOT HAVE! If we were to mix a Dravidian albino with a black European, the resultant admixture would be relatively swarthy as we can see in Southern Europe.

19) How does one explain then how North-Western European populations are so white today, despite genetically being the admixture of Black Europeans/and Dravidian albino's as seen by their sharing of haplo R1a and R1b?

The ANSWER IS OBVIOUS! THEY ARE THE RESULT OF BLACK EUROPEANS ALBINO'S AND DRAVIDIAN EURASIAN ALBINO'S MIXING AND BREEDING WITH EACH OTHER, THIS GENETIC DIVERSITY ALLOWED THEM TO BREED A LARGE POPULATION, WHERAS PREVIOUSLY THEY WERE TOO INBRED TO BREED A LARGE POPULATION! THE CLIMATE OF EUROPE ALSO HELPED THEM BREED A LARGE POPULATION OF ALBINO'S!

THE BLACK EUROPEANS WERE KILLED AND SENT OFF AWAY, ALLOWING THESE TWO ALBINO POPULATIONS TO SAFELY BREED AND CREATE A POPULATION OF THEIR OWN IN WESTERN/NORTHERN EUROPE!

So my example of whitening them up IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT ILLUSTRATES HOW MODERN NORTH-WEST EUROPEANS ARE SO ALBINO AND ARE AN ALBINO RACE, YET IT ALSO EXPLAINS HOW MODERN WESTERN EUROPEANS LOOK DISTINCT FROM DRAVIDIAN ALBINO'S TODAY!

This distinct White European look of Western and northern Europeans, separate to that of albino's elsewhere, IS THE RESULT OF DRAVIDIAN ALBINO'S BREEDING WITH BLACK EUROPEAN ALBINO'S EXCLUSIVELY!

Understand everything now guys?"

As proved by this:

"Mike, you have proved time and time again that Europe had black european populations as evidenced by the picture, which I don't contest or argue against!

And you have proved that the albino Basque are extremely inbred and are distant from other white europeans genetically and maybe one of the oldest ancient groups in Europe today according to reports.

Now why is it so unbelievable to claim that the albino basque pictured above and WHO LIVE IN EUROPE TODAY, are actually remnants of Black Europe's unmixed albino populations?

The Irish and the Albino people from the British Isles have distinct genes and also have haplogroup R1b as a major component and are infact related to the Basque on a genetic level as do the albino French.

However the difference between the albino Irish and the albino French, and other albino British Isles from the albino basque people, is that all of them have A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF HAPLOGROUP R1A WHICH HAS ORIGINS IN CENTRAL AND SOUTH ASIA!

The albino's of Germany, Scandinavia, the British Isles, France seem to be a HYBRID POPULATION OF CENTRAL ASIAN R1A DRAVIDIAN ALBINO'S AND ALBINO BASQUE R1B LIKE POPULATIONS FROM EUROPE'S ANCIENT PAST!

The Basque themselves don't really have central asian albino R1a admixture but are mainly R1b which is not really found in R1a heavy Central and South Asia in significant numbers.

Yet we can see in the picture today that the Basque are pretty albino looking as well. So why is it far fetched to claim that Black Europeans had their own albino's and groups like the Basque people with heavy R1b are the REMNANTS OF BLACK EUROPE'S ALBINO POPULATION FROM THE PAST?

How could the Basque not be proof that Europe had depopulation periods of Black Europeans, where the black European albino Basque were not affected or targeted by other albino's from Central Asia, and that they mixed with R1a Dravidian Albino's in Western Europe after this black depopulation period to create modern day albino Euro's like Germans, Brits, Swedes, French, Danes, Norwegians, Irish, Scottish, English, Austrians, Belgians, Dutch etc etc etc?

AND THERE IS PROOF OF THAT RIGHT HERE!


Notice the high percentage of haplogroup R1b in Western Europeans AS OPPOSED TO HAPLOGROUP R1a WHICH IS THE DRAVIDIAN ALBINO EURASIAN STEPPE HAPLOGROUP!

The R1b in Europe is more related to albino groups like Ancient European groups like Basque people who are more rooted in Europe then R1a Dravidian albino's from Central Asia and Eastern Europe.

Yet we see that modern Western Europeans ARE A HYBRID POPULATION OF DRAVIDIAN ALBINO'S IN THE FORM OF HAPLO R1A AND BASQUE ALBINO'S IN THE FORM OF HAPLO R1B!

I'm not trying to contest or challenge you Mike, I just want to refine and expand on already key existing ideas and concepts discovered by you and people at Egyptsearch. And I'm claiming this and doing so, OUT OF RESPECT FOR YOU GUYS! I deeply admire and respect your work and other's work here which is why I don't mock or make fun of people's ideas here, especially yours.

So there is no need for the hostility and stand-offish tone.
http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=15;t=010772;p=2#000071

And voila! You get modern White Europe and the "west/Western civilization" and all the white people/ethnic groups in Europe today!"

The thing is that we all know the who brought the genes, and the light skin genes are not light skin genes but RATHER ALBINISM GENES! The blue eyed African hunter gatherers HAD OCULAR ALBINISM!

So the chances of there being BLACK EUROPEAN ALBINO'S BACK THEN WAS ALSO VERY HIGH! And since countries like black countries like Tanzania have high rates of albinism, this means that the light skin migrants into Europe were none other THEN THE ALBINO'S DESCRIBED IN THE BIBLE, AND Albino BLACK ANATOLIAN MIGRANTS!

Those albino's went into take refuge in Northern and Western Europe away from MAJOR POPULATION CENTERS IN EUROPE AT THAT TIME!

When plagues began to hit Black Europe's main population centers (mostly in Southern Europe at the time), the light skinned Human albino's started overpopulating Northern Europe, and the Central Asian barbarian migration started happening from the east, THEN THAT IS WHEN DARK SKIN STARTS DISAPPEARING IN EUROPE!

People ARE IGNORING PLAGUES AND EPIDEMICS EFFECTS ON DEMOGRAPHICS! Mike and yourself also fail to understand the major effects of this.

With outbreaks and plagues like the BUBONIC PLAGUE and THE BLACK DEATH, THE MAJOR POPULATION CENTERS IN EUROPE WERE WIPED CLEAN!

Then there was the MINI ICE AGE! You have a MAJOR climatic shift and weather change that WIPED OUT MAJOR SEGMENTS OF EUROPE'S ORIGINAL DARK POPULATIONS!

This means that the original Black European populations were killed mostly AND NOT THE NORTHERN LIGHT ALBINO PEOPLES IN EUROPE HIDING IN THE FORESTS!

Once the plagues, climate ice age weather and various wars had already taken place, Black Europe was vulnerable to barbarian and outside aggression. This paved the way for a major demographic change with albino's taking over Europe.

This HAS to explain HOW EUROPE BECAME WHITE!

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Oh and here is a literacy map of Europe Xyman by 1300 BC, in the early stages of Europe's major civilization. You need formal literacy for civilization, and literacy at the time period coincides with major population centers.

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Now with various plagues and epidemics and wars taking place, all the major population centers here were wiped clean and desecrated. This made Black Europe very vulnerable and exposed to outside and barbarian aggression.

The illiterate part of europe shown on the map concides with parts of Europe settled or refuge places for nomadic barbarian tribes and Black European albino's, and the light skin migrants.

Then there were events like the mini ice age that wiped Europe clean and killed off a lot of Black Europe's population.

Once all these happened, it was a walk in the park for Whites to take over the entirety of Europe. And remember NORTHERN EUROPE was a PLACE OF REFUGE AND ISOLATION DURING THE BLACK PLAGUE!

And Northern Europe today is known AS THE WHITEST PART OF EUROPE AND THE REGION WHERE MOST OF THE MOST WHITE EUROPEAN GROUPS ARE FROM AND
ORIGINATE!

IS THAT CONCIDENCE XYMAN, MIKE, KDOLO, NAMERTHOTH AND EVERYONE ELSE HERE? I think not [Smile]

The MAJOR point you guys have to understand is, YOU CANNOT USE NEOLITHIC AND PRE-MODERN SKELETONS AND POPULATION SAMPLES, to make assessments and inferences, and guesses of Europe CURRENT MODERN WHITE POPULATION TODAY!

Modern Europe's current white population, HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ORIGINAL EUROPEANS! THEY HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ORIGINAL NEOLITHIC AND HUNTER GATHERER DARK SKINNED SETTLERS OF EUROPE! ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!

Europe's ORIGINAL BLACK/DARK POPULATION DID NOT EVOLVE INTO MODERN WHITE EUROPEANS! THIS IS A LIE!

The dark skinned and black original Europeans WERE ALL KILLED! BRED OUT! EXTERMINATED! KILLED BY PLAGUE OUTBREAKS, KILLED BY MINI ICE AGES/CLIMATE SHIFTS AND DROUGHTS IN EUROPE AND SENT AWAY ELSEWHERE, by the ancestors of TODAY'S WHITE EUROPEANS!

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Mindovermatter,

You frequent rooshv !!! Me too ! Hahahah

Ok. I get i understand your theory now.

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So seems that People Must understand that Vikings are Who the Are...THEY DON'T PLAY....


To think that there was a race based war is probably not true at all...VIKINGS DON'T PLAY.....

MindOverMatter stated that Northern Europeans Have African Genes....Think Fam,

For whatever Yall state Europe was Majority White and Africa Majority Black...

Listen to what is written....Vikings was possibly at least 90% White skinned and 10% Black skinned(try and get the dark out of your vocabulary)

Ancient Egypt was Possibly at Least 90% Black skinned and 5-10% White skinned..Will return to the Vikings soon...

1st Ancient Egypt..From the Beginning there had always been incursions from Peoples outside of Egypt Basically from The Mediterranean regions or Europe proper....This was going on since the earliest dynasty...Lower Egypt possibly had majority of the 5-10% of the White Skinned brothas that lived inside Kemet..

Must Realize That Lower Egypt during the Old kingdom times was not an highly populated area, Upper Egypt was where Majority of The People Were Chilling...Lower Egypt was populated Yet was not a Main Base of Population, The had foreigners that travelled to lower egypt and relaxed with The Lower Egyptians. Majority of Lower Egyptians were always a Shade or so paler Black(really need a different word) then Upper Egyptians. Yet People Are People and there was no difference between them basically Features, Attitude, How they worked the land, how they Had Festivals, how they Looked at Kemet(Ancient Egypt) as The Black(K.mt is the word) and Them as Kemetians(Black People) etc was all interlinked. There was differences A Upper Egyptian could Pick out a Lower Egyptian as easy as a Kenyan Knew a Somali..

example of that read Tales Of Sinuhe

quote:
like seeing a Marsh-man[the Delta] in Upper Egypt or Elephantine''

Hope You Realize. that Story written from ancient Egyptians Called Tales of Sinuhe


Always Rememeber that later when there was problems with others(invaders), the lower egyptians would run to Upper Egypt for safety and plan there counter attacks(thats for future thoughts)

Remember that ALL Ancient Egyptians Pointed to the South as where they came from hence Upper Egypt is inside the South and Lower Egypt is The North...

here is some info you can look up for info that showed Egyptians came from the south...


quote:
"Populations and cultures now found south of the desert roamed far to the north. The culture of Upper Egypt, which became dynastic Egyptian civilization, could fairly be called a Sudanese transplant. "(Egypt
and Sub-Saharan Africa: Their Interaction.
Encyclopedia of Precolonial Africa, by Joseph O.
Vogel, AltaMira Press, Walnut Creek, California
(1997), pp. 465-472 )

All Egyptians regardless of shade claimed they came from the South thats why they called Punt and Uganda there ancestral lands...


Ancient Egyptians Upper and Lower never argued where they were from regardless of shades of Color.

People Outside Egypt were moving to Ancient Egypt especially Lower Egypt they were Basically looked on as Family...

Lower Egypt was the gateway to Europe there were people who were very White entering Africa and People very Black Entering Europe.These very pale People were there from early times and Assimilated To The Egyptian ways of Living,

Lower Egypt is where they stayed and People did what they were doing from time Chilling..There was no violence, or mass slavery blah blah blah... People recognize People.

Read this From Mrs. Zakrzewski who critiqued howells data base of skulls

quote:
The results suggest a level of local population continuity exists within the earlier Egyptian populations, but that this was in association with some change in population structure, reflecting small-scale immigration and admixture with new groups.


Zakrzewski (2004) Intra-Population and temporal variation Ancient Egyptian Crania


so seems there were small scale immigration of People from outside Egypt during the early dynasties that is to be expected since Lower egypt is right at the edge of Europe etc...


Then there were issues with certain Peoples named the Hyksos, who were Shepherd Kings..This is where Mike111 can show You from this thread..Read Mike111's posts deeply Mindovermatter he will tell you why the Hyksos are not what the establishment tried to pretend them to be...

Hyksos Invaders of lower Egypt
http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=15;t=000532

So after reading that about Ancient Egypt and there People, There is the Vikings...Vikings Are A People from the High north of Europe, they had their own ways of doing thangs and Yet was Not stressed out as people think they were..THEY JUST HATED EVIL..

The Vikings were the 1st People from Europe to travel to the Americas where they Met Native Americans,

When the Vikings met the Native Amercians Inside Canada..was their wars and violence and bloodthirsty death?

what do you think happens when Peoples meet Peoples? Let me say this..They never found bones of wars, violent struggles, Rapes,..

Matter of fact the europeans denied That The Vikings did get to Canada because there WAS NO VIOLENCE, WAS NO WARS WITH THE NATIVE AMERICANS.. they refused to accept Reality..

so the europeans barked about a racist goof murder named colombus who they caimed was 1st european to americas [Roll Eyes] .

Read This Mindovermatter:


quote:


If Sutherland is correct, the lines of evidence she has uncovered may point to a previously unknown chapter in New World history in which

Viking seafarers and Native American hunters were partners together in a transatlantic trade network.


"I think things were a lot more complex in this part of the world than most people assumed,

" Sutherland said. James Tuck agreed. "It's pretty convincing that there was a much larger Norse presence in the Canadian Arctic than any of us thought."

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2012/10/121019-viking-outpost-second-new-canada-science-sutherland/

Wow, so The VIKINGS that europeans claimed was bloodthirsty violent destroyers of parts of europe..were CHILLING WITH THE NATIVES INSIDE THE AMERICAS!!! Yet they were running roughshod over all of europe striking terror into the hearts of the brainwashed gehazi(Problem) controlled demons oops europeans...

Realize this Mindovermatter..PEOPLE DON'T PLAY!!! GEHAZIS A PROBLEM and the People hate goofiness. Remember Ancient Greece? 80% of the People there were enslaved and the greek cities sanctioned child snatching

I will give you a hint of who gehazis are and why they are a Problem...

quote:

2Kings 4:27
27 But when she came to the man of God at the mountain, she fell to the ground before him and caught hold of his feet.

Gehazi began to push her away,

but the man of God said, "Leave her alone. She is deeply troubled, but the LORD has not told me what it is."


dirty gehazi was pushing a woman away from the Prophet of God when she was having a Crisis, The Prophet had to Yell at Gehazi..

Gehazis Hate women!!!


quote:

2Kings 5:20

20 But Gehazi, the servant of Elisha, the man of God, said to himself,

"My master should not have let THIS Aramean


get away without accepting any of his gifts. As surely as the LORD lives,

I will chase after him and get something from him.

Racist Gehazi is insulted that The Prophet Refused payment from Healing The Syrian Naaman.

so greedy selfish racist gehazi runs after the Man and tries and get payment from the Syrian..

Gehazis Hate People And Gehazis RACIST


quote:

2 Kings 5:22-23

22"Everything is all right,"

Gehazi answered. "My master sent me to say, 'Two young men from the company of the prophets have just come to me from the hill country of Ephraim. Please give them a talent of silver and two sets of clothing.'"

23 "By all means, take two talents," said Naaman. He urged Gehazi to accept them, and then tied up the two talents of silver in two bags, with two sets of clothing. He gave them to two of his servants, and they carried them ahead of Gehazi.


[Eek!] Wow dirty GEHAZI LIED USING THE PROPHETS NAME TO GET SOMETHING FROM NAAMAN THE SYRIAN.

Not finished Yet

quote:


25 He went in and stood before his master, and Elisha said to him, “Where have you been, Gehazi?”

And he said, “Your servant went nowhere.” Gehazi answered



Racist, Women Hating, Liar Gehazi, Gehazi even Lied to his Master who He Knew Is a Prophet of God

Gehazis Racist,

Gehazis Hates Woman,

Gehazis Greedy and

Gehazis Liars

Gehazis a Problem.


VIKINGS DON'T PLAY. Realize That MindOvermatter

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