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The point of hammering away at European Albinism was to get to this point.
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: Look the bottom line is that whatever you want to call them white people have higher rates of skin cancer than blacks, therefore blacks are superior. So everybody needs to realize this and therefore whites should give up their power.
Said sarcastically.
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: yes but what is the relevance of it? If whites and light skinned East Asians or anybody are all albinos what about it?
They get skin cancer at a higher rate.
This is some sort of revelation? No one knew this until Mike and you came out with it? They're "albinos". All it means is that they get skin cancer at a higher rate. So the **** what?
Are you that delusional?
Meaning - Fuch you, it doesn't change a thing!
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*Workshop Definition* White Supremacy is an historically based, institutionally perpetuated system of exploitation and oppression of continents, nations, and peoples of color by white peoples and nations of the European continent, for the purpose of maintaining and defending a system of wealth, power, and privilege.
I. What does it mean to say it is a system?
The most common mistake people make when they talk about racism is to think it is a collection of prejudices and individual acts of discrimination. They do not see that it is a system, a web of interlocking, reinforcing institutions: economic, military, legal, educational, religious, and cultural. As a system, racism affects every aspect of life in a country.
By not seeing that racism is systemic (part of a system), people often personalize or individualize racist acts. For example, they will reduce racist police behavior to "a few bad apples" who need to be removed, rather than seeing it exists in police departments all over the country and is basic to the society. This mistake has real consequences: refusing to see police brutality as part of a system, and that the system needs to be changed, means that the brutality will continue.
The need to recognize racism as being systemic is one reason the term White Supremacy has been more useful than the term racism. They refer to the same problem but:
A. The purpose of racism is much clearer when we call it "white supremacy." Some people think of racism as just a matter of prejudice. "Supremacy" defines a power relationship.
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This Black hating/Self hating Negro bought into the bullsh1t.
(Clarence Thomas
Do you think he would have done that, and hated himself and his own kind, if he knew that his White lords were Black too - just defective Albinos
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Mike, no not yet its not. However we know that's what you and your ilk (Clyde,Xy-YT-hater,Zarahan,Jantavanta,Kdolo,Troll Patrol,Mena7,MOM) want. Black supremacy throughout the world & Whitey gone from the planet. No more White children born no more Whitey period.
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quote:Originally posted by CelticWarrioress: Mike, no not yet its not. However we know that's what you and your ilk (Clyde,Xy-YT-hater,Zarahan,Jantavanta,Kdolo,Troll Patrol,Mena7,MOM) want. Black supremacy throughout the world & Whitey gone from the planet. No more White children born no more Whitey period.
You are sooooooo unrealistic. LOL From where do you get all these fantasies? Lucid "dreams"? You level of projection is amusing. None here talked about killing whites (albinos as some call you) children, except for you. In fact you care only for whites, and everybody else can die (I care for humanity as a whole). You've expressed your sick nuances many times. LOL SMH
So all your false accusations are typical Southern American tradition.
But here is the deal and here are the facts!!!
quote: EUROCENTRISM (Western Colonialism)
By: Dr. Antoon De Baets
During most of the last two centuries,the prevailing popular view of world history held that a mainstream of facts could be identified in the flood of events taking place since the dawn of humanity. Essentially, this mainstream coincided with the history of Europe and its antecedents and successors—all the heirs and transmitters of civilization. The source of this stream of facts was located in Egypt and the Near East, and via Greece and Rome it slowly flowed westward to medieval western Europe. In the course of two colonization waves—the first starting in 1450, the second in 1870—it finally came to encompass the whole planet.
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FIVE LEVELS OF EUROCENTRISM
The mainstream principle reveals a broader tendency— namely, to perceive one’s own culture as the center of everything and other cultures as its periphery. This tendency is called ethnocentrism.
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--Dr. Antoon De Baets History Dept., Univ. of Groningen,
Definition of domination 1 : supremacy or preeminence over another 2 : exercise of mastery or ruling power 3 : exercise of preponderant, governing, or controlling influence 4 plural : dominion 3
domination (n.) Look up domination at Dictionary.com late 14c., "rule, control," from Old French dominacion (12c.) "domination, rule, power," from Latin dominationem (nominative dominatio), noun of action from past participle stem of dominari "to rule, have dominion over," from dominus "lord, master," literally "master of the house," from domus "home" (see domestic) + -nus, suffix denoting ownership or relation. Sexual sense by 1961.
The state or condition of being superior to all others in authority, power, or status: the supremacy of the king
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superior
1 Higher in rank, status, or quality: a superior officer it is superior to every other car on the road More example sentences Synonyms
1.1 Of high standard or quality: superior malt whiskeys
1.2 Greater in size or power: deploying superior force
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supreme
: highest in rank or authority <the supreme commander> 2 : highest in degree or quality <supreme endurance in war and in labour — R. W. Emerson> 3 : ultimate, final <the supreme sacrifice>
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superior
1 : situated higher up : upper 2 : of higher rank, quality, or importance 3 : courageously or serenely indifferent (as to something painful or disheartening) 4 a : greater in quantity or numbers <escaped by superior speed> b : excellent of its kind : better <her superior memory>
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The definitions are similar but in my mind the way these words are most often used "superiority" weighs more toward meaning "better than"
and "supreme", a word not used as much, implies an elite at the top of a hierarchy "the supreme command" it has a military or governmental connotation.
However the way people most often use the term "white supremacy" what they mean is "a sense of white being innately better"
I was looking for the first use of the term "white supremacy"
etymonline.com says
"White supremacy attested from 1884".
but I can't find more information on it
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You know what's funny about this term "white supremacy" is that people who use it to describe oppression by Europeans are virtually saying "white superiority" when they talk about "white supremacy" so while they intend to chastise whites they are going around saying what amounts to "white superiority" as opposed to "whites' false sense of superiority".
In other words by leaving that out unintentionally(?) on a subliminal level they are perpetuating the word meanings that Europeans are in fact superior, it's just that we don't like it.
I've used the term "white supremacy" a little but every time I hear it something tells me something is a little off about it on the subconscious level. It's like it's a given rather than indicated as a false premise.
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This is a guy on youtube I found when looking for first use of the term "white supremacy" . I didn't find that but, the following:
Dr. Steven Nur Ahmed is the founder of the Malcolm X Society. He has taught Islam and Theology. Is a professor of Sociology, Philosophy, Criminal Justice, & a Psych. Social Worker.
He has a video called "White Supremacy: Its Origin" He blames the Hindus Varna Caste system 1,500 BC for the origin of white supremacy (Varna means color caste)
He then he goes on to describe what he says is Plato planted the seed of white supremacy in Europe by adopting the ancient Hindu legal text Manu Smriti ("the book of Manu")
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The odd thing is that white people would consider all these people "colored" of brown. Yet you still find a supremacy here of skin lighter to darker
Plato’s Republic, Book V, page 469.
First take slavery. Is it right that Greek states should sell Greeks into slavery? Ought they not rather to do all they can to stop this practice and substitute the custom of sparing their own race, for fear of falling into bondage to foreign nations?
That would be better, beyond all comparison.
They must not, then, hold any Greek in slavery themselves, and they should advise the rest of Greece not to do so.
Certainly. Then they would be more likely to keep their hands off one another and turn their energies against foreigners.
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Is it not also reasonable to assert that the Greeks are a single people, all of the same kindred and alien to the outer world of foreigners?
Yes.
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And having made it he divided the whole mixture into souls equal in number to the stars, and assigned each soul to a star; and having there placed them as in a chariot, he showed them the nature of the universe, and declared to them the laws of destiny, according to which their first birth would be one and the same for all - no one should suffer a disadvantage at his hands; they were to be sown in the instruments of time severally adapted to them, and to come forth the most religious of animals; and as human nature was of two kinds, the superior race would hereafter be called man. Now, when they should be implanted in bodies by necessity, and be always gaining or losing some part of their bodily substance, then in the first place it would be necessary that they should all have in them one and the same faculty of sensation, arising out of irresistible impressions; in the second place, they must have love, in which pleasure and pain mingle; also fear and anger, and the feelings which are akin or opposite to them; if they conquered these they would live righteously, and if they were conquered by them, unrighteously. ~ Plato: Timaeus
And God proclaims as a first principle to the rulers, and above all else, that there is nothing which they should so anxiously guard, or of which they are to be such good guardians, as of the purity of the race. They should observe what elements mingle in their offspring; for if the son of a golden or silver parent has an admixture of brass and iron, then nature orders a transposition of ranks, and the eye of the ruler must not be pitiful toward the child because he has to descend in the scale and become a husbandman or artisan, just as there may be sons of artisans who having an admixture of gold or silver in them are raised to honor, and become guardians or auxiliaries. For an oracle says that when a man of brass or iron guards the State, it will be destroyed. ~ Plato: The State, Book 3
First of all, in regard to slavery? Do you think it right that Hellenes should enslave Hellenic States, or allow others to enslave them, if they can help? Should not their custom be to spare them, considering the danger which there is that the whole race may one day fall under the yoke of the barbarians? And may I not observe with equal propriety that the Hellenic race is all united together by ties of blood and friendship, and alien and strange to the barbarians? ~ Plato: The State, Book 5
In the succeeding generation rulers will be appointed who have lost the guardian power of testing the metal of your different races, which, like Hesiod's, are of gold and silver and brass and iron. And so iron will be mingled with silver, and brass with gold, and hence there will arise dissimilarity and inequality and irregularity, which always and in all places are causes of hatred and war. When discord arose, then the two races were drawn different ways: the iron and brass fell to acquiring money, and land, and houses, and gold, and silver; but the gold and silver races, not wanting money, but having the true riches in their own nature, inclined toward virtue and the ancient order of things. There was a battle between them, and at last they agreed to distribute their land and houses among individual owners; and they enslaved their friends and maintainers, whom they had formerly protected in the condition of freemen, and made of them subjects and servants; and they themselves were engaged in war and in keeping a watch against them. ~ Plato: The State, Book 8 Sons, the event proves that your fathers were brave men; for we might have lived dishonourably, but have preferred to die honourably rather than bring you and your children into disgrace, and rather than dishonour our own fathers and forefathers; considering that life is not life to one who is a dishonour to his race, and that to such a one neither men nor Gods are friendly, either while he is on the earth or after death in the world below. ~ Plato: Menexenus
Athenian. Whether the better is ever really conquered by the worse, is a question which requires more discussion, and may be therefore left for the present. But I now quite understand your meaning when you say that citizens who are of the same race and live in the same cities may unjustly conspire, and having the superiority in numbers may overcome and enslave the few just; and when they prevail, the state may be truly called its own inferior and therefore bad; and when they are defeated, its own superior and therefore good. ~ Plato: Laws, Book 1
Cleinias. They will come from all Crete; and of other Hellenes, Peloponnesians will be most acceptable. For, as you truly observe, there are Cretans of Argive descent; and the race of Cretans which has the highest character at the present day is the Gortynian, and this has come from Gortys in the Peloponnesus. ~ Plato: Laws, Book 4
Athenian. Cities find colonization in some respects easier if the colonists are one race, which like a swarm of bees is sent out from a single country, either when friends leave friends, owing to some pressure of population or other similar necessity, or when a portion of a state is driven by factions to emigrate. And there have been whole cities which have taken flight when utterly conquered by a superior power in war. This, however, which is in one way an advantage to the colonist or legislator, in another point of view creates a difficulty. There is an element of friendship in the community of race, and language, and laws, and in common temples and rites of worship; but colonies which are of this homogeneous sort are apt to kick against any laws or any form of constitution differing from that which they had at home; and although the badness of their own laws may have been the cause of the factions which prevailed among them, yet from the force of habit they would fain preserve the very customs which were their ruin, and the leader of the colony, who is their legislator, finds them troublesome and rebellious. On the other hand, the conflux of several populations might be more disposed to listen to new laws; but then, to make them combine and pull together, as they say of horses, is a most difficult task, and the work of years. And yet there is nothing which tends more to the improvement of mankind than legislation and colonization. ~ Plato: Laws, Book 4
Which reflection led him to appoint not men but demigods, who are of a higher and more divine race, to be the kings and rulers of our cities; he did as we do with flocks of sheep and other tame animals. For we do not appoint oxen to be the lords of oxen, or goats of goats; but we ourselves are a superior race, and rule over them. ~ Plato: Laws, Book 4
O sir, we will say to him, the impulse which moves you to rob temples is not an ordinary human malady, nor yet a visitation of heaven, but a madness which is begotten in a man from ancient and unexpiated crimes of his race, an ever-recurring curse; against this you must guard with all your might, and how you are to guard we will explain to you. ~ Plato: Laws, Book 9
Now it is difficult to determine accurately the things which are worthy or unworthy of a freeman, but let those who have obtained the prize of virtue give judgment about them in accordance with their feelings of right and wrong. He who in any way shares in the illiberality of retail trades may be indicted for dishonouring his race by any one who likes, before those who have been judged to be the first in virtue; and if he appear to throw dirt upon his father’s house by an unworthy occupation, let him be imprisoned for a year and abstain from that sort of thing; and if he repeat the offence, for two years; and every time that he is convicted let the length of his imprisonment be doubled. ~ Plato: Laws, Book 11
SOCRATES: Do you not remember that he speaks of a golden race of men who came first?
HERMOGENES: Yes, I do.
SOCRATES: He says of them -
"But now that fate has closed over this race They are holy demons upon the earth, Beneficent, averters of ills, guardians of mortal men." (Hesiod, Works and Days.)
HERMOGENES: What is the inference?
SOCRATES: What is the inference! Why, I suppose that he means by the golden men, not men literally made of gold, but good and noble; and I am convinced of this, because he further says that we are the iron race.
HERMOGENES: That is true.
SOCRATES: And do you not suppose that good men of our own day would by him be said to be of golden race?
HERMOGENES: Very likely.
SOCRATES: And are not the good wise?
HERMOGENES: Yes, they are wise.
SOCRATES: And therefore I have the most entire conviction that he called them demons, because they were daemones (knowing or wise), and in our older Attic dialect the word itself occurs. Now he and other poets say truly, that when a good man dies he has honour and a mighty portion among the dead, and becomes a demon; which is a name given to him signifying wisdom. And I say too, that every wise man who happens to be a good man is more than human (daimonion) both in life and death, and is rightly called a demon. ~ Plato: Cratylus
SOCRATES: In the next place, consider that what you say is probably false.
ALCIBIADES: How so?
SOCRATES: Let me ask you whether better natures are likely to be found in noble races or not in noble races?
ALCIBIADES: Clearly in noble races.
SOCRATES: Are not those who are well born and well bred most likely to be perfect in virtue?
Classicist James Dee states "the Greeks do not describe themselves as "white people"—or as anything else because they had no regular word in their color vocabulary for themselves."[3] People's skin color did not carry useful meaning; what mattered is where they lived.
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A. The purpose of racism is much clearer when we call it "white supremacy." Some people think of racism as just a matter of prejudice. "Supremacy" defines a power relationship.
Many definitions of racism have always included a power relationship, of which white supremacism is a part. There are white people who have no power and don't want to exercise any power, but are very racist. So the individual and the systematic aspects go TOGETHER to make up the system of racism.
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quote:Originally posted by zarahan- aka Enrique Cardova: There are white people who have no power and don't want to exercise any power, but are very racist. So the individual and the systematic aspects go together to make up a system of racism.
what systemic aspects?
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quote:Originally posted by zarahan- aka Enrique Cardova: There are white people who have no power and don't want to exercise any power, but are very racist. So the individual and the systematic aspects go together to make up a system of racism.
what systemic aspects?
INSTITUTIONAL!
Those whites with no power, live in a structure supported by the institutional spawn. This is why they are able to exercise racism.
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quote: 31. The essential elements that gave to Protestant Ascendancy after 1689 in Ireland and white supremacy in continental Anglo-America the character of racial oppression were those that first destroyed the original forms of social identity among the subject population, and then excluded the members of that population from admittance into the forms of social identity normal to the colonizing power. The codifications of this basic organizing principle in the Penal Laws of the Protestant Ascendancy in Ireland and the slave codes of white supremacy in continental Anglo-America present four common defining characteristics of those two regimes: 1) declassing legislation, directed at property-holding members of the oppressed group; 2) the deprivation of civil rights; 3) the illegalization of literacy; and 4) displacement of family rights and authorities.46
Definition of domination 1: supremacy or preeminence over another 2: exercise of mastery or ruling power 3: exercise of preponderant, governing, or controlling influence
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John H. Van Evrie (1814–1896)[1] was an American physician and defender of slavery[2] best known as the editor of the Weekly Day Book and the author of several books on race and slavery which reproduced the ideas of scientific racism for a popular audience.[3] He was also the proprietor of the publishing company Van Evrie, Horton & Company.[4] Van Evrie was described by the historian George M. Fredrickson as "perhaps the first professional racist in American history."[5] His thought, which lacked significant scientific evidence,[6] emphasized the inferiority of black people to white people, defended slavery as practiced in the United States and attacked abolitionism, while opposing class distinctions among white people and the oppression of the white working class.
White Supremacy and Negro Subordination (1868)[edit]
Title page of the 1868 edition of White Supremacy and Negro Subordination In 1867 Negroes and Negro "Slavery", stripped of references to miscegenation and "subgenation", was republished as White Supremacy and Negro Subordination or, Negroes A Subordinate Race and Slavery Its Normal Condition.[7] The stated intention of the 1868 edition was to demonstrate "that the so-called slavery of the South was the Negro's normal or natural condition".[10] Van Evrie also sought to capitalize on white opposition to the 14th Amendment, which granted civil rights to black people.[82] White Supremacy and Negro Subordination focuses on white supremacy's paternalistic aspects. Here Van Evrie argues that black people possessed "wonderful imitative powers" and that the role of the slaveowner was primarily to set "a proper example".[83] Van Evrie cites craniometry, physical anthropology, comparative anatomy and biological determinism in support of his argument that slaves were absolutely dependent on their masters.[52] In White Supremacy and Negro Subordination Van Evrie also cited black people's perceived inability to grow beards and the "absolute resemblance" allegedly shared by all black people as further justification for slavery.[84] The book also features several chapters detailing alleged similarities between black people and animals,[85] and a preface in which Van Evrie lamented that Northerners "now rule the South by military force ... and are striving to 'reconstruct' American society on a Mongrel basis" (see Reconstruction Era).[86]
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However preference for lighter skin on a relative basis (not something I agree with) is seen in other cultures not defined as "white" also. One might call it "lighter skin supremacy" or "colorism"
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Liarness is trying to hi-jack and derail this thread as usual, people people please don't feed the troll!
The whole preference for light skin, was only recorded AFTER White Eurasians/White Indo-Europeans/White Europeans took over areas, or invaded areas, where it was recorded AFTERWARDS that they had a preference for light skin,as if Whites knew their history all along, AFTER NOT BEFORE!
Is that a surprise? Probably not!
This is basically historical revisionism by the European albino's, when they went around and colonized places globally and re-wrote histories about entire cultures and regions, particularly the places they colonized, in order to fabricate and create a false history to support White supremacist thinking! And which they have brainwashed people into believing...
Otherwise this was the reality and norm of the world BEFORE THEY TOOK OVER!
quote:Originally posted by Mindovermatter: [QB] Lioness is trying to hi-jack and derail this thread as usual, don't feed the troll people!
The fact of the matter is that the Chinese have been ruled and taken over and admixed by Indo-European/White Eurasian peoples in history, and through their rule and admixture w/ the ORIGINAL BLACK CHINESE PEOPLE, they have managed to mold and socially engineer them to favor "light skin" and "white traits".
They have also likely transferred the Albino parasite gene to the Chinese population that I have referred to. This is where the REAL preference for light skin comes from, NOT bullshit theories for working out in the sun!
It's more bullshyt from Mindovermatter, genetics on the modern Chinese shows his claims to be absolute nonsense.
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^^Folks look at how stupid our dear Liarness is!
First of all genetics and history actually does SUPPORT THE FACT THAT the modern Chinese DO HAVE INDO-EUROPEAN/WHITE ADMIXTURE FROM THEIR ANCIENT PAST, and EVEN CHINESE NATIONALS THEMSELVES CLAIM THIS ONLINE, ALL OF WHICH, I have pin pointed in the other thread!
And the Chinese people are not even genetically homogeneous or mono-ethnic either! A point our idiot liarness fails to grasp or understand! There is just too much regional variation between Northern and Southern Chinese, enough for them to be distinct groups.
Second of all, the first people to inhabit China, CAME FROM THE INDIA AREA, THROUGH SOUTH EAST ASIA, TO SETTLE SOUTHERN CHINA!
And I used that Marco polo thing AS AN EXAMPLE, supposedly the albino's tell us that preference for lighter skin would be seen in hot tropical regions where dark skin is the norm and light skin was rare; and there would be universal preference for light skin!
But EVEN IN A HOT SUNLIGHT AND TROPICAL PLACE LIKE SOUTHERN INDIA, THERE WAS A HISTORICAL PREFERENCE FOR DARK BLACK SKIN! AS RECORDED BY THE EUROPEAN ALBINO'S!
See how much bullshit and lies a degenerate albino liar like Liarness espouses folks? This is the dumbfuckery that you would expect from a degenerate albino like Liarness!
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^^ These are the South Indian people biased against for being dark in the ancient Manusmriti text ( 1250 BCE and 1000 BCE)
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quote:Originally posted by Mindovermatter: ^^Folks look at how stupid our dear Liarness is!
First of all genetics and history actually does SUPPORT THE FACT THAT the modern Chinese DO HAVE INDO-EUROPEAN/WHITE ADMIXTURE FROM THEIR ANCIENT PAST, and EVEN CHINESE NATIONALS THEMSELVES CLAIM THIS ONLINE, ALL OF WHICH, I have pin pointed in the other thread!
And the Chinese people are not even genetically homogeneous or mono-ethnic either! A point our idiot liarness fails to grasp or understand! There is just too much regional variation between Northern and Southern Chinese, enough for them to be distinct groups.
Second of all, the first people to inhabit China, CAME FROM THE INDIA AREA, THROUGH SOUTH EAST ASIA, TO SETTLE SOUTHERN CHINA!
And I used that Marco polo thing AS AN EXAMPLE, supposedly the albino's tell us that preference for lighter skin would be seen in hot tropical regions where dark skin is the norm and light skin was rare; and there would be universal preference for light skin!
But EVEN IN A HOT SUNLIGHT AND TROPICAL PLACE LIKE SOUTHERN INDIA, THERE WAS A HISTORICAL PREFERENCE FOR DARK BLACK SKIN! AS RECORDED BY THE EUROPEAN ALBINO'S!
See how much bullshit and lies a degenerate albino liar like Liarness espouses folks? This is the dumbfuckery that you would expect from a degenerate albino like Liarness!
Mike told you stop the long winded blowing of hot air.
Either you have the genetic data to support what you are claiming or you don't.
AND YOU CLEARLY DON'T so stop the fraud
we can get into the DNA if you persist and the grape will be crushed twice
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HE HE HE HE, where is the sources for that Liarness, and who was that translation written by? Do you really think I can't see the above writing and see through your stupidity and lies?
And where does it say that this account WAS ONLY IN SOUTH INDIA, WHEN MARCO POLO TRAVELED THERE?
Because there was no way that Ancient South Indians could be against being dark, WHEN THEY ARE THE DARKEST PEOPLE IN INDIA TODAY, EVEN DARKER THEN VARIOUS AFRAM PEOPLE, AND SOUTH INDIA IS THE HOTTEST AND MOST SUNNY PORTION OF INDIA TODAY WHERE BEING DARK SKINNED WOULD BE A NECESSITY!
Damn your stupidity and idiocy and low-grade lies really knows no bounds Liarness!
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quote:Originally posted by Mindovermatter: ^^Folks look at how stupid our dear Liarness is!
First of all genetics and history actually does SUPPORT THE FACT THAT the modern Chinese DO HAVE INDO-EUROPEAN/WHITE ADMIXTURE FROM THEIR ANCIENT PAST, and EVEN CHINESE NATIONALS THEMSELVES CLAIM THIS ONLINE, ALL OF WHICH, I have pin pointed in the other thread!
And the Chinese people are not even genetically homogeneous or mono-ethnic either! A point our idiot liarness fails to grasp or understand! There is just too much regional variation between Northern and Southern Chinese, enough for them to be distinct groups.
Second of all, the first people to inhabit China, CAME FROM THE INDIA AREA, THROUGH SOUTH EAST ASIA, TO SETTLE SOUTHERN CHINA!
And I used that Marco polo thing AS AN EXAMPLE, supposedly the albino's tell us that preference for lighter skin would be seen in hot tropical regions where dark skin is the norm and light skin was rare; and there would be universal preference for light skin!
But EVEN IN A HOT SUNLIGHT AND TROPICAL PLACE LIKE SOUTHERN INDIA, THERE WAS A HISTORICAL PREFERENCE FOR DARK BLACK SKIN! AS RECORDED BY THE EUROPEAN ALBINO'S!
See how much bullshit and lies a degenerate albino liar like Liarness espouses folks? This is the dumbfuckery that you would expect from a degenerate albino like Liarness!
Mike told you stop the long winded blowing of hot air.
Either you have the genetic data to support what you are claiming or you don't.
AND YOU CLEARLY DON'T so stop the fraud
we can get into the DNA if you persist and the grape will be crushed twice
No the fact of the matter is that you really don't have genetic data to support it, and you never did, and if you did, it wouldn't cover the entire spectrum of China, as China is the size of the U.S.
Also real accurate genetic data about the Chinese population IN CHINA, is hard to come by, because of censorship and the huge control that the Chinese government imposes on this type of info and data getting out!
I have already shown multiple times, FROM CHINESE NATIONALS FROM CHINA AS SOURCES, historical realities of the Ancient Chinese having admixed w/ White Indo-European type peoples....
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First of all genetics and history actually does SUPPORT THE FACT THAT the modern Chinese DO HAVE INDO-EUROPEAN/WHITE ADMIXTURE it wouldn't cover the entire spectrum of China, as China is the size of the U.S.
Also real accurate genetic data about the Chinese population IN CHINA, is hard to come by, because of censorship and the huge control that the Chinese government imposes on this type of info and data getting out!
I have already shown multiple times, FROM CHINESE NATIONALS FROM CHINA AS SOURCES, historical realities of the Ancient Chinese having admixed w/ White Indo-European type peoples.... [/QB]
So when you said you had genetic evidence, when YOU made these claims you were LYING
The best you could come up with is that China is big, really really big.
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The topic is white supremacy. Even Mike would admit I have made valuable contributions to the topic including -what may be the first example of the term "white supremacy", - similar colorism in the Hindu caste system -Plato's remarks
Mindovermatter is simply jealous of my contributions and trying to derail the thread by bringing up China, in long winded format which Mike already chastised him about and where there are already recent threads on China up.
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quote:Originally posted by Mindovermatter: HE HE HE HE, where is the sources for that Liarness, and who was that translation written by? Do you really think I can't see the above writing and see through your stupidity and lies?
And where does it say that this account WAS ONLY IN SOUTH INDIA, WHEN MARCO POLO TRAVELED THERE?
Because there was no way that Ancient South Indians could be against being dark, WHEN THEY ARE THE DARKEST PEOPLE IN INDIA TODAY, EVEN DARKER THEN VARIOUS AFRAM PEOPLE, AND SOUTH INDIA IS THE HOTTEST AND MOST SUNNY PORTION OF INDIA TODAY WHERE BEING DARK SKINNED WOULD BE A NECESSITY!
Damn your stupidity and idiocy and low-grade lies really knows no bounds Liarness!
stop being ignorant. Look up the "Aryan invasion of India". It far predates Marco Polo and Dr. Clyde Winters subscribes to it
You've never heard of the caste system and how color is a part of it? As I said stop being ignorant, do the knowledge
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quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: However preference for lighter skin on a relative basis (not something I agree with) is seen in other cultures not defined as "white" also. One might call it "lighter skin supremacy" or "colorism"
The problem of your theory lies within the Brown Paper Bag. Question is, would you pass?
The brown paper bag is where this one drop rule ends. Not my words. Don't get it twisted.
quote:That was one cultural legacy that would be put to rest in a hurry-we all made sure of that. But in a manner of speaking, it was replaced by an opposite test whereby those who were deemed "not black enough' ideologically were to be shunned. I was not sure this was an improvement."
quote:Originally posted by Mindovermatter: [QB] Lioness is trying to hi-jack and derail this thread as usual, don't feed the troll people!
The fact of the matter is that the Chinese have been ruled and taken over and admixed by Indo-European/White Eurasian peoples in history, and through their rule and admixture w/ the ORIGINAL BLACK CHINESE PEOPLE, they have managed to mold and socially engineer them to favor "light skin" and "white traits".
They have also likely transferred the Albino parasite gene to the Chinese population that I have referred to. This is where the REAL preference for light skin comes from, NOT bullshit theories for working out in the sun!
It's more bullshyt from Mindovermatter, genetics on the modern Chinese shows his claims to be absolute nonsense.
I wonder how nearby populations with darker or dark skin relate to the Chinese.
quote: The regional distribution of an ancient Y-chromosome haplogroup C-M130 (Hg C) in Asia provides an ideal tool of dissecting prehistoric migration events. We identified 465 Hg C individuals out of 4284 males from 140 East and Southeast Asian populations. We genotyped these Hg C individuals using 12 Y-chromosome biallelic markers and 8 commonly used Y-short tandem repeats (Y-STRs), and performed phylogeographic analysis in combination with the published data. The results show that most of the Hg C subhaplogroups have distinct geographical distribution and have undergone long-time isolation, although Hg C individuals are distributed widely across Eurasia. Furthermore, a general south-to-north and east-to-west cline of Y-STR diversity is observed with the highest diversity in Southeast Asia. The phylogeographic distribution pattern of Hg C supports a single coastal 'Out-of-Africa' route by way of the Indian subcontinent, which eventually led to the early settlement of modern humans in mainland Southeast Asia. The northward expansion of Hg C in East Asia started approximately 40 thousand of years ago (KYA) along the coastline of mainland China and reached Siberia approximately 15 KYA and finally made its way to the Americas.
--Zhong H1, Shi H, Qi XB, Xiao CJ, Jin L, Ma RZ, Su B.
Global distribution of Y-chromosome haplogroup C reveals the prehistoric migration routes of African exodus and early settlement in East Asia.
quote:Originally posted by Mindovermatter: HE HE HE HE, where is the sources for that Liarness, and who was that translation written by? Do you really think I can't see the above writing and see through your stupidity and lies?
And where does it say that this account WAS ONLY IN SOUTH INDIA, WHEN MARCO POLO TRAVELED THERE?
Because there was no way that Ancient South Indians could be against being dark, WHEN THEY ARE THE DARKEST PEOPLE IN INDIA TODAY, EVEN DARKER THEN VARIOUS AFRAM PEOPLE, AND SOUTH INDIA IS THE HOTTEST AND MOST SUNNY PORTION OF INDIA TODAY WHERE BEING DARK SKINNED WOULD BE A NECESSITY!
Damn your stupidity and idiocy and low-grade lies really knows no bounds Liarness!
stop being ignorant. Look up the "Aryan invasion of India". It far predates Marco Polo and Dr. Clyde Winters subscribes to it
You've never heard of the caste system and how color is a part of it? As I said stop being ignorant, do the knowledge
I would love to see you challenge Indian people on this "Aryan invasion of India" theory. There are Indian message boards. Please link it, so I (we) can read along. Also, on how they view the "cast-system". I am sure, its going to be interesting. I wonder who would look ignorant.
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quote:Originally posted by Ish Gebor: I would love to see you challenge Indian people on this "Aryan invasion of India" theory. There are Indian message boards. Please link it, so I (we) can read along. Also, on how they view the "cast-system". I am sure, its going to be interesting. I wonder who would look ignorant.
why would I challenge a theory that I advised someone to look into?
Have you heard of the Aryan Migration or Invasion theory into India?
Go look it up, 122,000 results on google
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quote:Originally posted by Ish Gebor: I would love to see you challenge Indian people on this "Aryan invasion of India" theory. There are Indian message boards. Please link it, so I (we) can read along. Also, on how they view the "cast-system". I am sure, its going to be interesting. I wonder who would look ignorant.
why would I challenge a theory that I advised someone to look into?
Have you heard of the Aryan Migration or Invasion theory into India?
Go look it up, 122,000 results on google
Yes, I have heard of it of course. And I have seen actual debates on this with Indian people. It was straight up a slaughterhouse for those whites. It was amusing to read and watch.
From your kind words I take it you're scared to deal with them. Afraid they bombard you with Sanskrit.
"Go look it up, 122,000 results on google". So?
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"Have you heard of the Aryan Migration or Invasion theory into India?"
I see forward your posts there. Good luck honey.
Ps, don't forget to direct the link here, of "your debate" there.
Posts: 22234 | From: האם אינכם כילדי הכרית אלי בני ישראל | Registered: Nov 2010
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quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: This is a guy on youtube I found when looking for first use of the term "white supremacy" . I didn't find that but, the following:
Dr. Steven Nur Ahmed is the founder of the Malcolm X Society. He has taught Islam and Theology. Is a professor of Sociology, Philosophy, Criminal Justice, & a Psych. Social Worker.
He has a video called "White Supremacy: Its Origin" He blames the Hindus Varna Caste system 1,500 BC for the origin of white supremacy (Varna means color caste)
He then he goes on to describe what he says is Plato planted the seed of white supremacy in Europe by adopting the ancient Hindu legal text Manu Smriti ("the book of Manu")
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^ It explained a lot.
And I know of an "alternative Greek Bible", written somewhere in the 3rd or 4th century, which is in line with what Dr. Steven Nur Ahmed explained on classical Greeks. I don't know what it's called. But the texts are horrific racist.
Posts: 22234 | From: האם אינכם כילדי הכרית אלי בני ישראל | Registered: Nov 2010
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Lie again, you only care about Blacks & other POC. You hete Whites & view Blacks as superior & Whites as inferior just as Mike,Clyde,Kdolo,MOM,Zarahan,Mena7,Xy-YT-hater do. You believe that Whites have no right to self knowledge,self determination,self rulership,. You don't believe that Whites have a right to living space for ourselves,nor according to you do our children have any right to a future. You yourself said that Whites should be mixed into extinction (genocide). You have a problem with a few Whites being in Africa (even though they are being slaughtered like cattle there,being denied an education for White children, not allowed to own a business,being denied employment for being White,having no charities to help if you are poor & White,being denied medical care even if critically injured or critically ill for being White) but yet have no problem with Blacks & other POC like yourself trying to take over Europe (which of course you try to claim the history and ownership of claiming we have no history,homeland,etc). Talk to me when you can go to a city in Any African country and play spot the Negro like you can play spot the cracka in London,Paris,etc. You don't want equality, you want Blacks on top & Whites on the very bottom. BTW, Whites have a right to White supremacy in Europe its our land.
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quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: what is Black Supremacy ?
That's a great question. Considering white supremacy.
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: What is White Supremacy?
Written by Elizabeth Martínez
*Workshop Definition* White Supremacy is an historically based, institutionally perpetuated system of exploitation and oppression of continents, nations, and peoples of color by white peoples and nations of the European continent, for the purpose of maintaining and defending a system of wealth, power, and privilege.
I. What does it mean to say it is a system?
The most common mistake people make when they talk about racism is to think it is a collection of prejudices and individual acts of discrimination. They do not see that it is a system, a web of interlocking, reinforcing institutions: economic, military, legal, educational, religious, and cultural. As a system, racism affects every aspect of life in a country.
By not seeing that racism is systemic (part of a system), people often personalize or individualize racist acts. For example, they will reduce racist police behavior to "a few bad apples" who need to be removed, rather than seeing it exists in police departments all over the country and is basic to the society. This mistake has real consequences: refusing to see police brutality as part of a system, and that the system needs to be changed, means that the brutality will continue.
The need to recognize racism as being systemic is one reason the term White Supremacy has been more useful than the term racism. They refer to the same problem but:
A. The purpose of racism is much clearer when we call it "white supremacy." Some people think of racism as just a matter of prejudice. "Supremacy" defines a power relationship.
quote:Originally posted by CelticWarrioress: Troll Patrol,
Lie again, you only care about Blacks & other POC. You hete Whites & view Blacks as superior & Whites as inferior just as Mike,Clyde,Kdolo,MOM,Zarahan,Mena7,Xy-YT-hater do.
LOL AT THIS IDIOTICY! Southern culture at it's best, I guess. You make up stuff as you go along. But it's you who is doing all the hating, because it's your southern tradition.
I tell you I care for mankind as a whole, you twist it into "you lie you hate all white". lol smh
I have friends from all backgrounds.
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