quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: ^ could it be any more clear ?
Speaking of "economy" ?
quote:A $95,000 question: why are whites five times richer than blacks in the US?
A huge wealth gap has opened up between black and white people in the US over the past quarter of a century – a difference sufficient to put two children through university – because of racial discrimination and economic policies that favour the affluent.
A typical white family is now five times richer than its African-American counterpart of the same class, according to a report released today by Brandeis University in Massachusetts.
White families typically have assets worth $100,000 (£69,000), up from $22,000 in the mid-1980s. African-American families' assets stand at just $5,000, up from around $2,000.
A quarter of black families have no assets at all. The study monitored more than 2,000 families since 1984.
"We walk that through essentially a generation and what we see is that the racial wealth gap has galloped, it's escalated to $95,000," said Tom Shapiro, one of the authors of the report by the university's Institute on Assets and Social Policy.
"That's primarily because the whites in the sample were able to accumulate financial assets from their $22,000 all the way to $100,000 and the African-Americans' wealth essentially flatlined."
The survey does not include housing equity, because it is not readily accessible and is rarely realised as cash. But if property were included it would further widen the wealth divide.
Shapiro says the gap remains wide even between blacks and whites of similar classes and with similar jobs and incomes.
"How do we explain the wealth gap among equally-achieving African-American and white families? The same ratio holds up even among low income groups. Finding ways to accumulate financial resources for all low and moderate income families in the United States has been a huge challenge and that challenge keeps getting steeper and steeper.
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Although many black families have moved up to better-paying jobs, they begin with fewer assets, such as inheritance, on which to build wealth. They are also more likely to have gone into debt to pay for university loans.
"African-Americans, before the 1960s, first by law and then by custom, were not really allowed to own businesses. They had very little access to credit. There was a very low artificial ceiling on the wealth that could be accumulated. Hence there was very little, if anything, that could be passed along to help their children get to college, to help their children buy their first homes, or as an inheritance when they die," said Shapiro.
Since the 1980s, US administrations have also geared the tax system to the advantage of the better off. Taxes on unearned income, such as shares and inheritance, fell sharply and are much lower than taxes on pay.
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: ^ could it be any more clear ?
It is crazy you are more concerned with that […], as supposed:
quote: new view of gentrification
For researchers studying urban issues such as gentrification, one of the largest challenges is collecting detailed visual evidence across hundreds of square miles of city streets.
Sampson said the key finding “is that the predominantly black, seriously discriminated-against neighborhoods in Chicago and many other American cities aren’t reaping the same benefits from the transformation of cities. In one sense, this is a paradoxical result, because there is evidence that diversity and mixed neighborhoods are the ground floor of gentrification, but this paper shows there are sharp limits to that.”
"Beryl Satter knew something like this was bound to happen. Or, rather, to happen again.
The Rutgers historian wrote the book on an obscure form of predatory lending from the mid-20th century that victimized black home buyers when banks would not lend them mortgages. Her book, "Family Properties," came out in 2009, on the heels of the housing crash. And as she traveled the country talking about it — about families defrauded from the homes they thought they owned, about sellers who promised home ownership but collected deposits and evictions instead — people kept approaching her.
"Pretty much everywhere I go, people say 'I’ve been hearing about this,'" Satter says. "Contract" selling is making a comeback."
The racial separation that permeates nearly every aspect of life in the Windy City is inexcusable.
Chicago is a city with a rich black heritage. And the South Side, fondly dubbed the “heart of black America,” is where much of the city’s cherished history emanates. Comprising a mix of poverty-stricken, working-class, and upper-income black residents, the South Side can lay claim to the country’s first black woman senator, the nation’s first black president, and various black elites. Chicago also holds the inglorious distinction of being one of the country’s most segregated cities. This is also the South Side’s legacy—and it encompasses its public schools.
With the return of Chicago public-school students to school just two weeks away, nearly 1,000 teachers and support staff received layoff notices earlier this month. Among the schools hardest hit: the South Side’s Bradwell School of Excellence and Harlan Community Academy, an elementary school and high school, respectively, with staff cuts in the double digits. The most recent layoffs continue an alarming pattern of racial inequality that was documented following Chicago’s mass school closings in 2013. As reported by The American Prospect, “While black students were 40 percent of Chicago’s school district population … they made up 88 percent of those affected by the [public-school] closures.”
Not a bleep from you when it comes to this and the other troubling conditions I have posted about, rather you make sarcastic threads like "are black people oppressed?"
That is how much you support Africana scholarly. Hell, no way are you a black woman trained in humanitarian Africana studies. So why even interfere in the discourse? If you truly was that great you would have made yourself known in an open-debate with Dr. Wesley Muh Ammad.
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Somebody with an African studies degree is likely to address inequality. But a black person with a degree in chemistry is just as likely to get a job at Dupont working and integrating with white people, if that is what you mean by nation building
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quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: But a black person with a degree in chemistry is just as likely to get a job at Dupont working and integrating with white people, if that is what you mean by nation building
Laughable individual you are. It never came to your mind that a black person needs to start up a business like Dupont and that this should be perfectly normal. It has nothing to do with hate or any of that crazy rhetoric you impose.
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: Somebody with an African studies degree is likely to address inequality.
So that is the reason why you shut down the thread on Jeff Sessions policies, Right? So that is why you always try to razionalize like right-wingers do, when unarmed black people are being shot, right?
See, the more you type the funnier it becomes. "Likely to address inequality."
And if you truly had a degree in Africana or any affiliation with it, you would not have posted that garbage during the presidential elections and afterwards.
Anyway:
Police Behavior during Traffic and Street Stops, 2011
--Lynn Langton, Ph.D., and Matthew Durose, BJS Statisticians
quote: "The systemic racism in Baltimore’s police force"
_In the Justice Department’s damning, astonishing report on the ingrained, systemic racism in Baltimore’s police department, one tidbit captures the larger picture. It describes an email by a city police supervisor containing a template for officers making trespassing arrests, with blanks to be filled in for date, location, suspect’s name and address — yet, oddly, no prompt for race or gender. Instead, the words “black male” were automatically included.
quote:Strip searches, ‘lock up all the black hoodies': Excerpts from Justice Dept. report on Baltimore PD
“BPD’s warrantless arrests for discretionary misdemeanor offenses exhibit substantial racial disparities. .. Analysis of this data reveals that African Americans account for the overwhelming majority of BPD’s discretionary misdemeanor arrests, and that reviewing officials are more likely to dismiss charges against African Americans—indicating that officers apply a lower standard when making them. As an initial matter, BPD officers arrest African Americans for several common misdemeanor offenses at high rates. Although they make up only 63 percent of Baltimore’s population, African Americans accounted for: 87 percent of the 3,400 charges for resisting arrest; 89 percent of 1,350 charges for making a false statement to an officer; 84 percent of the 4,000 charges for failing to obey an order; 86 percent of the more than 1,000 charges for hindering or obstruction; 83 percent of the roughly 6,500 arrests for disorderly conduct; and 88 percent of the nearly 3,500 arrests for trespassing on posted property.”
“Evidence of Gender Bias in BPD’s Response to Sexual Assault”
“We were also troubled by statements of BPD detectives suggesting an undue skepticism of reports of sexual assault. One victim advocate told us about a detective in the BPD Sex Offense Unit making comments at a party, in the company of BPD officers and victim advocates, that, “in homicide, there are real victims; all our cases are bullshit.” When another person suggested the detective soften the statement, the detective added, “Ok, 90 percent.” We also reviewed e-mail correspondence between a BPD officer and a prosecutor in which they openly expressed their contempt for and disbelief of a woman who had reported a sexual assault: the prosecutor wrote that “this case is crazy. . . I am not excited about charging it. This victim seems like a conniving little whore. (pardon my language).”; the BPD officer replied, “Lmao! I feel the same.”
As per this we now know that don't have a Africana degree.
And this was my last post to you, since it get's nowhere with you anyway. I have far better things to do.
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Not a bleep from you when it comes to this and the other troubling conditions I have posted about, rather you make sarcastic threads like "are black people oppressed?"
that is misrepresentation. I had a thread called:
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True or False ?
Black people are oppressed world wide mainly because of their skin color
That is not a sarcastic question. Your answer was "true" Narmerthoths answer was "false" so the question did lead to some interesting dialogue. Lamin also commented. Somebody else said " Blacks Are Inferior Humans!!" I commented "You are an extremely wicked individual. To hell with you"
quote:Originally posted by Ish Gebor:
you would have made yourself known in an open-debate with Dr. Wesley Muh Ammad.
That is the second time in this thread you have spelled his name like that. Is that intentional?
quote:Originally posted by Ish Gebor: And this was my last post to you, since it get's nowhere with you anyway. I have far better things to do.
It's getting nowhere because you are going off topic. If Wesley Muhammad said getting a degree in humanities quote "BS" and not practical and is a waste of money he should have said that as a general statement instead of singling out African Studies. It's disrespectful and I think he realizes it now. It's a big blunder, we will leave it at that
Do I agree that more black people should get degrees in science? Yes. But beware of what you wish for such skills tend to also question the dogma of religious organizations. Do you hear Minister Farrakhan speaking a lot on the need for more blacks in the science? Does the NOI have programs to support blacks in the sciences? Somebody may inform me
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quote:If that is the case that is amazing, but how come we don't see it put to practice? Where are the big names?
Ali Mazrui is a big name, Walter Rodney is a big name. Van Sertima is a big name. Most became university lecturers.
All the ideas are there for African development. They are right there in Nkrumah's books--especially "Africa Must Unite". But rampant corruption and the hegemonic power of the IMF, World Bank, and France have taken toll.
Read Fanon's chapter 4 of his "Wretched of the Earth"--"The Pitfalls of National Consciousness". This chapter highlights the greed, ignorance, selfishness and arrant materialism of Africa's new post-colonial money grabbing political classes.
On Islam: an alien colonizing Arab religion that has corrupted and stupefied the African mind. Same as Christianity.
British colonialism, French colonialism, Italian colonialism(Ethiopia),Portuguese colonialism and a very pervasive and a destructive Arab colonialism have all rendered the African mind woefully subservient and paralyzed. The wickedness of Boko Haram testifies to this.
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The NOI has ALWAYS had it's own doctors, scientists, economists, agriculturalists and researchers. LOL, you can't manufacture and sell Bean pies nation-wide to the masses without having USDA and FDA approval. To date, even with at least tens of millions sold, I have never heard of one person getting sick from eating NOI Bean pies. You can't say the same for McDonalds.
We already know that the NOI has it's own publishing and printing capability. The Final Call is one of the largest and widely distributed black owned newspapers in the USA. Incredible when you recognize it is probably the only black run organization that does it's own writing, editing, printing and distribution in the country.
They are a Nation within a nation, which is probably why Dr. Ben made the decision to leave his library there, and not a HBCU or subliminal seducer organizations. You probably don't recall that when the US gov released the AIDS bio-weapon, while the extensive black church did nothing but pray, the NOI and it's internal team of scientists initiated it's own NOI invented AIDS anti-virus development, interferon.
The NOI recognizes the importance of the sciences to nation building, and supports science development within it's ranks to a much greater extent than the African American black church system does.
They also developed heir own line of black skin care products internally, and planned to have Johnson Products distribute them world-wide, until the Sir Nose enemy sabotaged the plan.
Two of Farrakhan's Grandchildren are currently in Cuba taking advantage of Castro's free Medical doctor program. More than likely, they are not the first NOI members to attend the Cuban African American Medical program. Perhaps they have already graduated and are already medical doctors.
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quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth: The NOI has ALWAYS had it's own doctors, scientists, economists, agriculturalists and researchers. LOL, you can't manufacture and sell Bean pies nation-wide to the masses without having USDA and FDA approval. To date, even with at least tens of millions sold, I have never heard of one person getting sick from eating NOI Bean pies. You can't say the same for McDonalds.
We already know that the NOI has it's own publishing and printing capability. The Final Call is one of the largest and widely distributed black owned newspapers in the USA. Incredible when you recognize it is probably the only black run organization that does it's own writing, editing, printing and distribution in the country.
They are a Nation within a nation, which is probably why Dr. Ben made the decision to leave his library there, and not a HBCU or subliminal seducer organizations. You probably don't recall that when the US gov released the AIDS bio-weapon, while the extensive black church did nothing but pray, the NOI and it's internal team of scientists initiated it's own NOI invented AIDS anti-virus development, interferon.
The NOI recognizes the importance of the sciences to nation building, and supports science development within it's ranks to a much greater extent than the African American black church system does.
They also developed heir own line of black skin care products internally, and planned to have Johnson Products distribute them world-wide, until the Sir Nose enemy sabotaged the plan.
Two of Farrakhan's Grandchildren are currently in Cuba taking advantage of Castro's free Medical doctor program. More than likely, they are not the first NOI members to attend the Cuban African American Medical program. Perhaps they have already graduated and are already medical doctors.
That is nation building. Not boot licking. Of course ignorant negroes are going to resist this.
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quote:If that is the case that is amazing, but how come we don't see it put to practice? Where are the big names?
Ali Mazrui is a big name, Walter Rodney is a big name. Van Sertima is a big name. Most became university lecturers.
All the ideas are there for African development. They are right there in Nkrumah's books--especially "Africa Must Unite". But rampant corruption and the hegemonic power of the IMF, World Bank, and France have taken toll.
Read Fanon's chapter 4 of his "Wretched of the Earth"--"The Pitfalls of National Consciousness". This chapter highlights the greed, ignorance, selfishness and arrant materialism of Africa's new post-colonial money grabbing political classes.
On Islam: an alien colonizing Arab religion that has corrupted and stupefied the African mind. Same as Christianity.
British colonialism, French colonialism, Italian colonialism(Ethiopia),Portuguese colonialism and a very pervasive and a destructive Arab colonialism have all rendered the African mind woefully subservient and parkalyzed. The wickedness of Boko Haram testifies to this.
The people you've mentioned are pioneering big names who set the foundation. I am talking about present day people when I am asking what are the big names. (Of course you could not mention them.) What progress have modern scholars done that caused breakthroughs? What maintaining work have they done?
In other words: What are the archeological findings, anthropological findings etc...
One of the main problems here is that many Blacks don't understand the word PROGRESSION. As I wrote before in this thread (first page) too many black people rely on things done (foundation) in the past, many many years ago ( stuck in this dream). Lazy to be pioneers in adventures yourself, so you look at old books to feel comfort.
I don't have to read on politics, I am well aware of these politics. What made you think I don't know?
As Dr. Wesley Muh Ammad explained, the vehicle didn't work, you have to try something else, but ignorant blacks resist because they are afraid.
It's like a child getting away from home for the very first time, afraid to be independent.
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^ No doubt, You're crazy! You'd better shape up, or you'll soon be out of a title!
History is only good for examination of the past for bettering the present and future.
Unless of course you plan to take the path of the Native American or Australian aborigine and become extinct. Then perhaps you want to leave a record of, "I was here", but that's not too intelligent when you consider Sir Nose will just take it and use it to their advantage.
A chemist has a very vital and important role in nation building. History doesn't fill your stomach especially when less than 2% of African Americans will purchase and use history books, but a chemist is needed for fertilizers, medicines, products, etc. The NOI was fully aware that African Americans generate over $1T of revenue annually, and that most of that is generated by black females who spend over $400M/annually on hair and skin care products. A good black chemist under an intelligent organization can develop black hair & skin care products to take a large portion of that $400M, especially when you consider the vast majority of the products black females purchase are for non-melanin people, and not very healthy for black females. That's a win/win situation, and the NOI knows it, but unfortunately, not the black church that is currently holding ~75% of African Americans hostage and in intellectual retardation.
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quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth: [QB] ^ No doubt, You're crazy! You'd better shape up, or you'll soon be out of a title!
History is only good for examination of the past for bettering the present and future.
yes, that is why history professors are needed
quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth:
A chemist has a very vital and important role in nation building.
Yes, someone having acquired a degree in chemistry in the United States of America is most likely to use that degree to further build the United States of America although they could also move to a foreign country and apply the knowledge there
So yes, a degree in chemistry can be used for nation building.
Similarly if you get a job at Starbucks, Starbucks pays taxes so you are contributing to building the nation's economy and employment, nation building
The taxes are used by the government to build the nation
If you own land in a nation you don't own it in any complete sovereign sense. You still have to pay taxes, you can't make up your own laws that violate the nations laws and you can't have artillery and heavy weapons.
So you can only build a nation if you have sovereign control over a land mass. That is the first step, having nation. Otherwise you don't have a nation to build
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You think in a illogical fashion which is why you are most always wrong. I know you can do better because once in a blue moon you write something with logic and clarity.
All the black churches in the US have 501-3(C) tax status, which means, they don't pay taxes. Their churches are also under this classification and some even possess the documents to make them sovereign entities.
This is one reason why the NOI closed all of the restaurants it had nationwide in the 1960s. If they were still open, McDonalds would be poisoning far fewer of my people because they would be spending their dollars at the NOI joint, as they were overwhelmingly doing in the 1960s and 70s.
The US government forced them to be non-profit ONLY as per their 501-3(3) charter, and the restaurants were obviously, for-profit. The NOI choose to remain sovereign over profit. Under the very astute businessman, Elijah Muhammad, They had other means of generating capital, such as the newspaper, bean pies and other products. They are one of the only US black entities that control their foods from grow to table.
This is also why the US government decided to separate church and state back in the 1950s. The Catholic church owned far too much property in the US and all of it except for those used for commercial endeavors, was sovereign territory owned by the Vatican.
Collectively, how much square footage do you believe all the black churches own? Just search for the number of black churches in the US. Each owns a building and homes, and some even own land and apartment buildings. If they were all under one Corporation Sole organization like the Vatican, how much sovereign territory would that be?
You need to speak less and listen more.
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quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth: ^ No doubt, You're crazy! You'd better shape up, or you'll soon be out of a title!
History is only good for examination of the past for bettering the present and future.
Unless of course you plan to take the path of the Native American or Australian aborigine and become extinct. Then perhaps you want to leave a record of, "I was here", but that's not too intelligent when you consider Sir Nose will just take it and use it to their advantage.
A chemist has a very vital and important role in nation building. History doesn't fill your stomach especially when less than 2% of African Americans will purchase and use history books, but a chemist is needed for fertilizers, medicines, products, etc. The NOI was fully aware that African Americans generate over $1T of revenue annually, and that most of that is generated by black females who spend over $400M/annually on hair and skin care products. A good black chemist under an intelligent organization can develop black hair & skin care products to take a large portion of that $400M, especially when you consider the vast majority of the products black females purchase are for non-melanin people, and not very healthy for black females. That's a win/win situation, and the NOI knows it, but unfortunately, not the black church that is currently holding ~75% of African Americans hostage and in intellectual retardation.
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quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: pie in the sky
Thanks for acknowledging that you are uneducated. What else was to be excepted then such response. With that bloated politics talks.
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quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: As the topic keeps getting diverted from the value of African Studies to the value of the NOI....
as Ish trades in his dashiki for a bow tie
The only one who is diverting from the value of African Studies is you. You yourself admitted that you have no such back ground. And it shows over and over.
You are simply an ignorant uneducated individual, with stupid commentary. Such as "as Ish trades in his dashiki for a bow tie", which of course is plane dumb.
Not once did you address the conditions I have shown large parts of the African American community to be in, not once. So this too show that you are also uneducated in humanitarian studies in general.
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quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: As the topic keeps getting diverted from the value of African Studies to the value of the NOI....
as Ish trades in his dashiki for a bow tie
As the saying goes, there is no such thing as a totally stupid question. Your problem is that the ADL in you just refuses to like the answers to the question you presented.
If all the black churches woke up tomorrow and consolidated, the hospital's cardiac wings would be full the next day with Sir Nose heart attack victims.
Keep asking questions. If nothing else the answers may help African readers to better understand the dynamics of US black/white relations.
Soon, you will have to make the decision if you want to remain as Mod, or as the site's long term instigator. Right now, you're standing on the verge of getting fired.
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I could answer your diversionary questions ten different times and you would still be claiming I didn;t answer them
Again, the topic is the value of African Studies Departments in college. I have stated it.
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although it was you who challenged Wesley Muhammad's credentials and suggest that he isn't qualified to speak on African topics, it's apparent to all that his knowledge of Africa greatly exceeds yours.
Suppose you take a risk and start identifying the advantages to blacks on a degree in African studies?
I mean, it is your thread so how about demonstrating your confidence and embellishing it a little more?
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quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth: ^ No doubt, You're crazy! You'd better shape up, or you'll soon be out of a title!
History is only good for examination of the past for bettering the present and future.
Unless of course you plan to take the path of the Native American or Australian aborigine and become extinct. Then perhaps you want to leave a record of, "I was here", but that's not too intelligent when you consider Sir Nose will just take it and use it to their advantage.
A chemist has a very vital and important role in nation building. History doesn't fill your stomach especially when less than 2% of African Americans will purchase and use history books, but a chemist is needed for fertilizers, medicines, products, etc. The NOI was fully aware that African Americans generate over $1T of revenue annually, and that most of that is generated by black females who spend over $400M/annually on hair and skin care products. A good black chemist under an intelligent organization can develop black hair & skin care products to take a large portion of that $400M, especially when you consider the vast majority of the products black females purchase are for non-melanin people, and not very healthy for black females. That's a win/win situation, and the NOI knows it, but unfortunately, not the black church that is currently holding ~75% of African Americans hostage and in intellectual retardation.
It is obvious lioness lacks education, so lioness doesn't know what a chemist is and does. Posts: 22234 | From: האם אינכם כילדי הכרית אלי בני ישראל | Registered: Nov 2010
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quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: I could answer your diversionary questions ten different times and you would still be claiming I didn;t answer them
Again, the topic is the value of African Studies Departments in college. I have stated it.
Why involve yourself in a discourse that is obviously too complex for you to grasp.
You and your pompous nonsense.
"I could". We are asking you to do it, so do it. I already posted on politics so you have a start there.
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quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth: although it was you who challenged Wesley Muhammad's credentials and suggest that he isn't qualified to speak on African topics, it's apparent to all that his knowledge of Africa greatly exceeds yours.
Suppose you take a risk and start identifying the advantages to blacks on a degree in African studies?
I mean, it is your thread so how about demonstrating your confidence and embellishing it a little more?
Dr. Welsey Muh Ammad said, I don't have to pay for it, I can read it. And in his position he has access to all kinds of libraries. Lioness is exceedingly slow in understanding. So lioness thinks he is not schooled in Africana.
Almost 10 years ago, he made clear that he read over a thousand books. Posts: 22234 | From: האם אינכם כילדי הכרית אלי בני ישראל | Registered: Nov 2010
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quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth: ^ No doubt, You're crazy! You'd better shape up, or you'll soon be out of a title!
History is only good for examination of the past for bettering the present and future.
Unless of course you plan to take the path of the Native American or Australian aborigine and become extinct. Then perhaps you want to leave a record of, "I was here", but that's not too intelligent when you consider Sir Nose will just take it and use it to their advantage.
A chemist has a very vital and important role in nation building. History doesn't fill your stomach especially when less than 2% of African Americans will purchase and use history books, but a chemist is needed for fertilizers, medicines, products, etc. The NOI was fully aware that African Americans generate over $1T of revenue annually, and that most of that is generated by black females who spend over $400M/annually on hair and skin care products. A good black chemist under an intelligent organization can develop black hair & skin care products to take a large portion of that $400M, especially when you consider the vast majority of the products black females purchase are for non-melanin people, and not very healthy for black females. That's a win/win situation, and the NOI knows it, but unfortunately, not the black church that is currently holding ~75% of African Americans hostage and in intellectual retardation.
It is obvious lioness lacks education, so lioness doesn't know what a chemist is and does.
Hip-Hop Rap really needs to really return to it's original roots, drop the 6th grade nursery rhyme lyrics and suse the platform for what it was intended to be; A musical distribution of knowledge. Sir Nose has sabotaged the platform for support of it's extreme consumerism and dumbing down of youth, both black and white. Of course Lionese is very satisfied with it's present dumbed down state.
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quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth: ^ No doubt, You're crazy! You'd better shape up, or you'll soon be out of a title!
History is only good for examination of the past for bettering the present and future.
Unless of course you plan to take the path of the Native American or Australian aborigine and become extinct. Then perhaps you want to leave a record of, "I was here", but that's not too intelligent when you consider Sir Nose will just take it and use it to their advantage.
A chemist has a very vital and important role in nation building. History doesn't fill your stomach especially when less than 2% of African Americans will purchase and use history books, but a chemist is needed for fertilizers, medicines, products, etc. The NOI was fully aware that African Americans generate over $1T of revenue annually, and that most of that is generated by black females who spend over $400M/annually on hair and skin care products. A good black chemist under an intelligent organization can develop black hair & skin care products to take a large portion of that $400M, especially when you consider the vast majority of the products black females purchase are for non-melanin people, and not very healthy for black females. That's a win/win situation, and the NOI knows it, but unfortunately, not the black church that is currently holding ~75% of African Americans hostage and in intellectual retardation.
It is obvious lioness lacks education, so lioness doesn't know what a chemist is and does.
Hip-Hop Rap really needs to really return to it's original roots, drop the 6th grade nursery rhyme lyrics and suse the platform for what it was intended to be; A musical distribution of knowledge. Sir Nose has sabotaged the platform for support of it's extreme consumerism and dumbing down of youth, both black and white. Of course Lionese is very satisfied with it's present dumbed down state.
That is certainly true, and was never into "gangster rap".
Posts: 22234 | From: האם אינכם כילדי הכרית אלי בני ישראל | Registered: Nov 2010
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quote:Originally posted by lamin: Or Pan Africanism vs. Islam?
Garvey/Nkrumah vs. Fard Muhammad/Elijah Muhammad?
Both organizations are rooted in liberation.
So, eventually it boils down to self-reliance, or eternal dependence and bootlicking.
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quote:Originally posted by lamin: Or Pan Africanism vs. Islam?
Garvey/Nkrumah vs. Fard Muhammad/Elijah Muhammad?
Neither were like black Christian leaders. Meaning, they were both intelligent enough to realize they both have common goals and a common enemy, thus they would have worked together the same as Farrakhan is welling and eager to work with black Christian leaders but the latter are just too dumb/selfish to work with any one.
In many ways Christian leaders very much wish to keep their congregations ignorant and complacent to keep the funds rolling into their own pockets.
Garvey, and Fard/Elijah would work with anyone who'd help them achieve their goals. As I recall, Fard or ELijah were originally UNIA members before the NOI existed.
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quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: As the topic keeps getting diverted from the value of African Studies to the value of the NOI....
as Ish trades in his dashiki for a bow tie
Btw, I would rather wear a bowtie than a saggy ass-crack showing pants.
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quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: I could answer your diversionary questions ten different times and you would still be claiming I didn;t answer them
Again, the topic is the value of African Studies Departments in college. I have stated it.
So lioness, when are you going to school us on the points of Africana?
It has been a day since you stated that, but I have not seen anything thus far.
None stated Africana is not of value. What is stated is that it is a broken state and hasn't shown progression for the last 20-30 years.
You have shown your position and I have shown mine. You brought theoretical points and I brought practical points.
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The Book of God: An Encyclopedia of Proof that the Black Man is God. A-Team Publishing. 2007. ISBN 978-0982161876.
The Truth of God: The Bible, the Quran and the Secret of the Black God. A-Team Publishing. 2007. ISBN 978-0982161883.
Black Arabia & the African Origin of Islam. A-Team Publishing. 2009. ISBN 978-0982161890.
Egyptian Sacred Science and Islam: A Reappraisal. A-Team Publishing. 2012. ISBN 978-0983379751.
The Religion of the Black God: Indic Sacred Science and Islam. A-Team Publishing. 2013. ISBN 978-0983379768.
Take Another Look: The Quran, the Sunnah and the Islam of the Honorable Elijah Muhammad. A-Team Publishing. 2011. ISBN 978-0983379713.
God's Black Prophets: Deconstructing the Myth of the White Muhammad of Arabia and Jesus of Jerusalem. A-Team Publishing. 2010. ISBN 978-0982161852.
Bilad Al'Sudan: Essays on Islam, Africa and Afrocentricity. A-Team Publishing. 2012. ISBN 978-0983379737.
Who is God?: The God Debates. A-Team Publishing. 2009. ISBN 978-0982161845.
Master Fard Muhammad: Who is He? Who is He Not?. A-Team Publishing. 2009. ISBN 978-0982161838.
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Nothing practical here, no political books, no hard science
That is why he is unqualified to comment negatively on African Studies, he specializes in the impractical
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Instead of following me around and trying to divert the topic again just make a new thread on Cotton Mather
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quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: Instead of following me around and trying to divert the topic again just make a new thread on Cotton Mather
So tell, since we are speaking of Africana.
What was Cotton Mather his relation to black people in America?
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^ This is a great piece of work. One that someone like Lionese has very likely not read. In fact, I'd place large bets on Lionese has not read any of the books i9n the list.
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I think it is funny how the lioness is all about that "Africana this and that", but refuses to address Cotton Mather in the perspective of Africana.
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