Yes, Egypt has been veiled with an Arab lace for quite a long time. But such is the way of the world. Why do people in remote places like the Caribbean and the Philippines speak Spanish among other languages? Why do so many South Americans appear European in looks and social behavior? Why do some Latino people appear Asian in ethnicity? Why do South American "Indians" and Native Americans look just alike?

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Originally posted by multisphinx:
I personally think that Egypt is part of Africa and should not be put as part of The middle East. Egypt was always part of Africa and it will stay part of Africa.

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Originally posted by kimo_the_maniac:
Who cares.

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Kimo, you would be surprised a lot of people do , including me

Cheers

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Originally posted by Mooly El Din:
Kimo, you would be surprised a lot of people do , including me

Cheers

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Originally posted by Chrisderfer:
The Middle East is not only the Arabic speaking countries in the region, but the non-Arab countries as well (Israel, Turkey and Iran).
We can't simply dismiss the term as an unimportant "Orientalist" creation. Unlike other Orientalist theories and terms, "Middle East" is not derogatory. Indeed, it makes no statements. It is simply a geographical term reflecting the time it was made (at that time, the region was in the middle of Europe and Asia).

No need to get in a cat fight over a term that is just meant to describe a particular region.

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Originally posted by Chrisderfer:
The Middle East is not only the Arabic speaking countries in the region, but the non-Arab countries as well (Israel, Turkey and Iran).
We can't simply dismiss the term as an unimportant "Orientalist" creation. Unlike other Orientalist theories and terms, "Middle East" is not derogatory. Indeed, it makes no statements. It is simply a geographical term reflecting the time it was made (at that time, the region was in the middle of Europe and Asia).

No need to get in a cat fight over a term that is just meant to describe a particular region.

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Originally posted by multisphinx:
I personally think that Egypt is part of Africa and should not be put as part of The middle East. Egypt was always part of Africa and it will stay part of Africa.

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Why would this be so important? Who cares aboout a geographic location name? Some researchers though say there is a correlation between the climate and economic performance. Countries above the equator and the more northern it gets, the better they perform. Is it true or BS of some scientists? Seems a way more interesting thing to get insight into rather than argue about a name

Two schools of thought exist on the origin of the word Africa: one believes that the name came from a Roman commander who beat Hannibal in the Punic Wars,and the second school of thought says the name originates from an indigenous tribe that live somewhere in modern Tunisa named Afer . Afer was a term that Romans called people in this region reffering to a tribe that lived outside of Carthage.

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Originally posted by cairofan:
Why would this be so important? Who cares aboout a geographic location name? Some researchers though say there is a correlation between the climate and economic performance. Countries above the equator and the more northern it gets, the better they perform. Is it true or BS of some scientists? Seems a way more interesting thing to get insight into rather than argue about a name

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Originally posted by cairofan:
Why would this be so important? Who cares aboout a geographic location name? Some researchers though say there is a correlation between the climate and economic performance. Countries above the equator and the more northern it gets, the better they perform. Is it true or BS of some scientists? Seems a way more interesting thing to get insight into rather than argue about a name

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I haven’t read the book mentioned by Monica, but I would be sceptical of such a preposition. Just because it is right in our day and time, doesn’t make it a universal truth. A couple of points:
1-not all countries around the equator are at the same level of economic performance. You have wide variations is such performance. Just as you have Congo and other African countries, you also have Brazil, Indonesia and Malaysia, among others.
2-in past history there have been great civilisations closer to the equator. For example Egypt, Mesopotamia, Hellenic and Roman, at times when the northern part of Europe was inhabited by savage nomadic Germanic tribes. There were also other great civilisations in Persia, China, and later on the Islamic civilisation.
I think it all boils down to the resources available and how you manage them, but probably most importantly issues of justice and intellect.

Monica, would you be so kind as to give us a synopsis of the book, I’d be interested to know the argument it presents, but quite frankly don’t have the time to read it.

I'm leaving for a few days/work/ so I will do so, next week.

Until then, take care,

Monica

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Originally posted by Ramses nemesis:
I haven’t read the book mentioned by Monica, but I would be sceptical of such a preposition. Just because it is right in our day and time, doesn’t make it a universal truth. A couple of points:
1-not all countries around the equator are at the same level of economic performance. You have wide variations is such performance. Just as you have Congo and other African countries, you also have Brazil, Indonesia and Malaysia, among others.
2-in past history there have been great civilisations closer to the equator. For example Egypt, Mesopotamia, Hellenic and Roman, at times when the northern part of Europe was inhabited by savage nomadic Germanic tribes. There were also other great civilisations in Persia, China, and later on the Islamic civilisation.
I think it all boils down to the resources available and how you manage them, but probably most importantly issues of justice and intellect.

Monica, would you be so kind as to give us a synopsis of the book, I’d be interested to know the argument it presents, but quite frankly don’t have the time to read it.

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Originally posted by Monica:
Ramses nemesis,

I'm leaving for a few days/work/ so I will do so, next week.

Until then, take care,

Monica

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hmmm, good excuse to go read it first, lol
(just kidding babe, no offence )

after I posted I thought you would probably say that...

yallah bye...

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Originally posted by Ramses nemesis:
hmmm, good excuse to go read it first, lol
(just kidding babe, no offence )

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Originally posted by LadyYuna:
Egypt is located in Africa but it's now part of the Arab world. The whole name of Egypt is it's The Arab Republic of Egypt and it's part of The Arab League.

Yes, Egypt has been veiled with an Arab lace for quite a long time. But such is the way of the world. Why do people in remote places like the Caribbean and the Philippines speak Spanish among other languages? Why do so many South Americans appear European in looks and social behavior? Why do some Latino people appear Asian in ethnicity? Why do South American "Indians" and Native Americans look just alike?

People invade, migrate, and just plain get lost. But it's not always the location of the country that makes it what it is. It is the people who inhabit it.

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Originally posted by foreigngirl:
S.American "Indians" and Native Americans look alike because they are both Natie Americans. Living in Texas, most Mexicans are Native Americans but are not Europeans, but speak Spanish, a European language. I am of European descent, and yet here I am considered of a different race because I speak Spanish. Argentinians look European because they are European descent, where as other Latin Americans are either mixed with Native Americans or Africans.

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