quote:The deity Montu or Mentu is different from the deity Men/Min. Min is a god of the Eastern Desert whose original cult center was in Akhmim in central Egypt. Montu or Mentu was a hawk deity whose cult center was located in Erment which is located in Upper Egypt about a dozen miles south of Waset (Thebes). The name 'Mentu' literally means nomad or wanderer. Funny that you bolded the name of one of his consorts Iunit as if there is a connection to the Iunty. If anything the only connection is the etymology of their name. Khnemu, the patron god of Abutu (Elephantine) has his consort Satet and his daughter Anuket. Though they may share the same etymology for the names of some Nehesi, it is a stretch to say there is a direct connection or correlation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montu Excuse the wiki source but I think you should examine the below I am seeing a pattern here the name Montu does mean Nomad but it also connects to the God directly so what better fit than a some times nomadic warrior-like people named Mentu-Setet
quote: In Ancient Egyptian religion, Montu was a falcon-god of war. Monthu's name, shown in Egyptian hieroglyphs to the right, is technically transcribed as mntw. Because of the difficulty in transcribing Egyptian, it is often realized as Mont, Monthu, Montju, or Menthu. Montu was an ancient god, his name meaning nomad, originally a manifestation of the scorching effect of the sun, Ra, and as such often appeared under the epithet Montu-Ra. The destructiveness of this characteristic led to him gaining characteristics of a warrior, and eventually becoming a war-god. Because of the association of raging bulls with strength and war, Montu was also said to manifest himself in a white bull with a black face, which was referred to as the Bakha. Egypt's greatest general-kings called themselves Mighty Bulls, the sons of Montu
quote:The deity Montu or Mentu is different from the deity Men/Min. Min is a god of the Eastern Desert whose original cult center was in Akhmim in central Egypt. Montu or Mentu was a hawk deity whose cult center was located in Erment which is located in Upper Egypt about a dozen miles south of Waset (Thebes). The name 'Mentu' literally means nomad or wanderer. Funny that you bolded the name of one of his consorts Iunit as if there is a connection to the Iunty. If anything the only connection is the etymology of their name. Khnemu, the patron god of Abutu (Elephantine) has his consort Satet and his daughter Anuket. Though they may share the same etymology for the names of some Nehesi, it is a stretch to say there is a direct connection or correlation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montu Excuse the wiki source but I think you should examine the below I am seeing a pattern here the name Montu does mean Nomad but it also connects to the God directly so what better fit than a some times nomadic people warrior like
quote: In Ancient Egyptian religion, Montu was a falcon-god of war. Monthu's name, shown in Egyptian hieroglyphs to the right, is technically transcribed as mntw. Because of the difficulty in transcribing Egyptian, it is often realized as Mont, Monthu, Montju, or Menthu. Montu was an ancient god, his name meaning nomad, originally a manifestation of the scorching effect of the sun, Ra, and as such often appeared under the epithet Montu-Ra. The destructiveness of this characteristic led to him gaining characteristics of a warrior, and eventually becoming a war-god. Because of the association of raging bulls with strength and war, Montu was also said to manifest himself in a white bull with a black face, which was referred to as the Bakha. Egypt's greatest general-kings called themselves Mighty Bulls, the sons of Montu
you have to look at the original non-transliterated names without the vowels
I see the profile of the god Amun. Exactly WHAT are you saying, twit??!
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quote: This head of the great state god of the New Kingdom, Amun (or Amun-Re), recognizable by his tall cap and double plumes, has a cool, somewhat uncompromising mien. The break at the right side indicates that the head belonged to a group statue, which may have included the king, most likely Tutankhamun.
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Head of the god Amun, New Kingdom, post-Amarna period, Dynasty 18, reign of Tutankhamun, ca. 1336–1327 B.C. Egypt Granodiorite H. 17 5/16 in. (44 cm), W. 15 1/16 in. (38.2 cm), D. 16 5/16 in. (41.5 cm) Rogers Fund, 1907 (07.228.34)
The braided beard and the flat cap with remnants of double plumes identify this god as Amun. His small eyes are separated by a curved depression from the rounded brow ridge; his broad face shows full lips with sharp contours, and, from the side, a slightly drooping chin. These features closely parallel those of King Tutankhamun and mark the piece as his commission. The statue was certainly created for Karnak, Amun's great temple at Thebes, as part of Tutankhamun's restoration of the god's monuments that had been defaced or destroyed during the reign of Akhenaten. A number of sculptures depict Amun touching the crown of Tutankhamun, who stands or kneels before him. This head seems very large for such a composition, however; thus it is likely that the head originally belonged to a large freestanding or seated figure of the god.
The similarities between this piece and late Amarna art suggest that sculptors from Amarna were active in Thebes during Tutankhamun's reign. The combination of the lush physicality of the mouth with the distant, veiled gaze of the small eyes beneath shadowing brows creates a tension. These features—as in late Amarna art, and like similar tensions in the faces of late Middle Kingdom sculptures—were probably meant to convey a kind of interiority or reflectiveness.
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^ The headdress of Amun is called the shuti and most folks don't know it, but that is the exact type of 'crown' worn by Kushite kings.
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quote:Originally posted by Djehuti:
^ the same headdress worn by Kushite kings!!
look at the profile on this guy, just sayin
I see the profile of the god Amun. Exactly WHAT are you saying, twit??!
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quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:Originally posted by Tukuler: Damn I could murder you for chopping out the hieroglyphics ruining an otherwise good thing. Shrink 'em all down and try and get Kush in there too will ya, please!
Sorry the glyphs are at an inconvenient location for cropping ________________________________________
Oho, so I come back to find you did it anyway and in better format than what I did meanwhile.
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This assumes these various Nubians or people of the Southern lands, Sudan, Ethiopia, Lower Nubia, The Red Sea region, all dressed exactly the same. Was this one big empire? Or did the artist not know and make everybody a Kushite?
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How useful are you?
Rehashing an issue already covered.
Go back and reread the thread.
Um, didn't we go through this already? Isn't the real reason you made your post is because of your current tirade against me? U r so transparent and poisonous to any Afrikan who thinks with their own mind.
Anything from an idependent thinking Afrikan mind is useless to you, meanwhile thoughtful others not on a mission to destroy ES are thankful for the clarifications and advance in the knowledge.
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You are in a state of paranoia now I wasn't thinking of you in my last post. I was looking back on my old post, the work I did putting together a nice graphic and carefully not cropping out the glyphs. The looking over it just now I realized that whatever Egyptian artist who did the original painting seemed to make no distinction at all in the appearance of each of these ethnic groups. The names and places are useful but the illustrations not, they seem to have all of these groups a steerotyped as looking like Kushites. Unless the all did have the exact same garb I've got a life to live I'm not thinking about you.
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Describe precisely the work you did and why it's yours
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Do it yourself.
I don't have to defend myself against you.
You lack credibility.
Anyone reviewing the thread can see where you got the images, how you fought against the precise hieroglyphic terms even chopping mdw ntjr in your original pastiche telling me they are unimportant, and where you learned which moderns or modern locations relate to the AEL terms.
You must think people have no memory or you're just having one on the newbies who wouldn't know you've never authored any originality.
I thanked you for whatever tweaking you did to make it look prettier but if it's anyone's then it's my intellectual property.
For those not in the know, or new to the forum, this thread's not the only one to go into the issue of this particular rendition of the Nine Bows from which I reduced the four Nehesi reps under question.
Go on, keep trying to re-invent yourself.
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Already did if you'd but read instead of just trying to goad and trolling for more fish.
Do you even take yourself seriously? I got things to do like devouring sme 20 odd reports on the Andamans, other so-called Asian Negritos, and varying concepts of OoA.
This is the last of my time for you on this. I expect further peregrinations from you tranforming yourself into some kind of major contributor to ES's independent outlook on Egypt and etc. Whoever agres? More power to 'em.
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