I found what may be an important new source, but I need help!
But first, a little history, so that everyone will understand the connections and interconnections.
This is a cut-n-paste job from Wiki articles, because one White boy will tell the truth about one thing, and lie about another.
Hungary
Its original inhabitants were the Pannonii (Pannonians), a group of tribes akin to Illyrians. From the 4th century BC it was invaded by various Celtic tribes. Little is heard of Pannonia until 35 BC, when its inhabitants, allies of the Dalmatians, were attacked by Augustus, who conquered and occupied Siscia (Sisak). The country was not, however, definitely subdued until 9 BC, when it was incorporated into Illyricum, the frontier of which was thus extended as far as the Danube.
In AD 6, the Pannonians, with the Dalmatians and other Illyrian tribes, engaged in the so-called Great Illyrian Revolt, and were overcome by Tiberius and Germanicus, after a hard-fought campaign which lasted for three years. After the rebellion was crushed in AD 9, the province of Illyricum was dissolved, and its lands were divided between the new provinces of Pannonia in the north and Dalmatia in the south. The date of the division is unknown, most certainly after AD 20 but before AD 50. The proximity of dangerous barbarian tribes (Quadi, Marcomanni) necessitated the presence of a large number of troops (seven legions in later times), and numerous fortresses were built on the bank of the Danube.
Some time between the years 102 and 107, between the first and second Dacian wars, Trajan divided the province into Pannonia Superior (western part with the capital Carnuntum), and Pannonia Inferior (eastern part with the capital Aquincum). According to Ptolemy, these divisions were separated by a line drawn from Arrabona (Győr) in the north to Servitium (Gradiška) in the south; later, the boundary was placed further east.
After four centuries of existence, Roman civilization was swept away by the great migrations. For five hundred years the Carpathian Basin had been already the "the people's highway", with various White tribes such as the Visigoths, the Ostrogoths and the Lombards migrating across the area after sojourning for various lengths of time. After the Western Roman Empire collapsed under the stress of the migration of Germanic tribes, and Carpian pressure.
(The Carpi or Carpiani were an ancient people that resided, between not later than ca. AD 140 and until at least AD 318, in the former Principality of Moldavia (modern eastern Romania). The archaeology of Moldavia in the period 106-318 shows the coexistence of two distinct material cultures, one sedentary, the other exhibiting the features of a nomadic steppe culture. The sedentary culture was on a material level not significantly higher than other barbarian regions on the fringes of the Roman empire. The ethnic affiliation of the Carpi remains disputed, as there is no direct evidence in the surviving ancient literary sources. A strong body of modern scholarly opinion considers that the Carpi were a tribe of the Dacian nation. Other scholars have linked the Carpi to a variety of ethnic groups, including Sarmatians, Thracians, Germans, and Celts).
Nomadic-culture graves are predominantly inhumation-type, found in 38 places in Moldavia by 1976. These are predominantly found on the plains, rarely on the Carpathian foothills (i.e. East of the Siret), either singly or in small groups of 2-13 graves, including men. women and children. The great majority of nomadic-culture graves are flat (non-tumular), in contrast to nomadic barrow-graves found from the Dniester region eastwards. However, some secondary barrow-burials (i.e. using pre-existing barrows) have been found, mostly dating from 200 onwards.The nomadic graves always contain grave-goods, often including weapons, and mirrors engraved with tamgas (ritual/tribal symbols associated with nomadic steppe cultures).
6 cemeteries in Bichir's list contain both cremation and inhumation graves. At the Poieneşti site (the only one fully investigated by 1976), 6 adults and 17 children were buried (compared with 62 cremated). Of these, 2 adults and 7 children were found to have artificially elongated crania. This custom, achieved by tightly binding an infant's skull during its early growth phase, is associated with Black people EVERYWHERE!
Later, the empire of the Huns came, the military power that finally forced the withdrawal of the Roman legions. In the middle of the 5th century, Pannonia was ceded to the Huns by Theodosius II. In the 560s the Avars (a highly organized nomadic confederacy of mixed origins. They were ruled by a khagan, who was surrounded by a tight-knit entourage of nomad warriors, an organization characteristic of Turko-Mongol groups), founded the Avar Khaganate, a state which maintained supremacy in the region for more than two centuries and had the military power to launch attacks against all its neighbours. The Avar Khagnate was weakened by constant wars and outside pressure, and the Franks under Charlemagne managed to defeat the Avars, ending their 250-year rule. In the middle of the 9th century, the Slavic Balaton Principality, also known as Lower Pannonia, was established by the Franks as a frontier march when they destroyed the Avar state in the western part of the Pannonian plain; however this vassal state was destroyed in 900 by Hungarian tribes.
After the fall of the great Hun and Avar nomadic empires, only the Western Slavic and Southern Slavic people, who had been settling in the area since the 6th and 7th centuries succeeded in establishing themselves in the Carpathian Basin. In 895/896, under the leadership of Árpád, some Hungarians (meaningless modern name) crossed the Carpathians and entered the Carpathian Basin. The tribe called Magyers was the leading tribe of an alliance that conquered the centre of the basin. The Magyers confederation of Turkic tribes was probably led by two high princes: the kende (their spiritual ruler) and the gyula (their military leader). The high princes were either elected by the leaders of the tribes or appointed by the Khagan of the Khazars (Modern Jews) who had been exerting influence over the Magyars. Around 862 the seven tribes separated from the Khazars.The force led by Árpád is estimated at about 400,000 people, consisting of seven Hungarian tribes, one Kabar tribe, and other smaller tribes.
In the first half of the tenth century, during the decades the followed the Conquest, raiding expeditions of Magyar mounted warriors subjected all Europe to a constant state of terror. In time, however, they began to feel the effects of Western counter-strategy. When the Magyars invaded Bavaria in 955, the armoured cavalry of Otto the Great, Holy Roman Emperor, checked their advance, and in the decisive battle at Lechfeld it annihilated the Magyar assailants. Although the Magyars launched further attacks on Byzantium following this devastating defeat, it became clear that they had arrived at a decisive historic cross-road. Two alternatives confronted them: either they settle down, form a state and adjust themselves to the people of Europe, or else the same fate would befall them as that of the other nomadic peoples who had been annihilated in previous centuries.
Stephen I The first kings of the kingdom were from the Árpád dynasty, and the first Christian King was Stephen I, who was crowned on 25 December 1000 (or 1 January 1001) with the crown Pope Sylvester II had sent him with the consent of Otto III, Holy Roman Emperor. The Roman Catholic Church received powerful support from Stephen I, who with Christian Hungarians and German knights wanted a Christian kingdom established in Central Europe.
Charles I (1288 – ), the first King of Hungary and Croatia (1308–42) of the House of Anjou. He was also descended from the old Hungarian Árpád dynasty. His claim to the throne of Hungary was contested by several pretenders. Nevertheless, although he was only a child when his grandfather, King Charles II of Naples sent him to Hungary in 1300, Charles would strengthen his rule in the kingdom against his opponents and the powerful magnates following a long series of internal struggles. His most successful achievement was the mutual defense union with Poland and Bohemia against the Habsburgs (Holy Roman Empire). Charles was born in Naples, southern Italy, the only son of Charles Martel, Prince of Salerno and his wife Clementia, a daughter of King Rudolph I of Germany. His paternal grandmother, Mary, a daughter of King Stephen V of Hungary, declared her claim to Hungary following the death of her brother, King Ladislaus IV of Hungary.
The House of Anjou (Angevin Empire) The term Angevin Empire is a modern term describing the collection of states once ruled by the Angevin Plantagenet dynasty. The Angevins, also known as the House of Anjou, were a noble family founded in the early years of the Carolingian Empire. They first emerged as part of the minor feudal nobility, in what would soon be known as the Kingdom of France during the 10th century. After Geoffrey III, Count of Anjou inherited Anjou from his mother in 1060, the family began to grow in prominence, soon acquiring Maine. After going on crusade and becoming close to the Knights Templar, the Kingdom of Jerusalem was received through marriage by Fulk of Jerusalem in 1131. The senior line of the family branched off to become the House of Plantagenet, assuming the nickname of Geoffrey V of Anjou, its founder, eventually going on to rule the Kingdom of England, Lordship of Ireland, Principality of Wales and various other holdings in the vast Angevin Empire in 1154.
Carolingian Empire (800–888) is a historiographical term which has been used to refer to the realm of the Franks under the Carolingian dynasty in the Early Middle Ages. This dynasty is seen as the founders of France and Germany, and its beginning date is based on the crowning of Charlemagne, or Charles the Great, and ends with the death of Charles the Fat. Depending on one's perspective, this Empire can be seen as the later history of the Frankish Realm or the early history of France and of the Holy Roman Empire.
The House of Plantagenet, a branch of the Angevins, was a royal house founded by Geoffrey V of Anjou, father of Henry II of England. Plantagenet kings first ruled the Kingdom of England in the 12th century. Their paternal ancestors originated in the French province of Gâtinais and gained the County of Anjou through marriage during the 11th century. The dynasty accumulated several other holdings, building the Angevin Empire that at its peak stretched from the Pyrenees to Ireland and the border with Scotland.
Edward II king of England - House of Plantagenet
Edward's downfall came when his wife Isabella of France and her baronial lover Roger Mortimer set out to depose the king with the help of Henry, Earl of Lancaster, brother of the executed Earl Thomas. In defeat Edward agreed to abdicate the throne in favour of his and Isabella's son, Edward III of England.
Edward III king of England (the Black Prince) - House of Plantagenet
Edward III married Philippa of Hainaut, (1314 – 1369). Hainaut consisted of what is now the Belgian province of Hainaut and the southern part of the French département Nord. In Roman times, Hainaut was situated in the Roman provinces of Belgica and Germania Inferior and inhabited by Celtic tribes (Black people), until Germanic peoples (White people) replaced them and ended Roman Imperial rule.The eldest of her fourteen children was Edward, the Black Prince, who became a renowned military leader. Philppa died at the age of fifty-five from an illness closely related to dropsy. The Queen's College, Oxford was founded in her honour.
Louis I, the great of Hungary (Ludwik Wegierski) - son of Charles I Louis was the head of the senior branch of the Angevin dynasty. He was one of the most active and accomplished monarchs of the Late Middle Ages, extending territorial control to the Adriatic and securing Dalmatia, with part of Bosnia and Bulgaria, within the Holy Crown of Hungary. During his reign Hungary reached the peak of its political influence. He spent much of his reign in wars with the Republic of Venice. He was in competition for the throne of Naples, with huge military success and the latter with little lasting political results. Louis is the first European monarch who came into collision with the Ottoman Turks.
The coins look like a Blackamoor to me!
This is his internet picture.
In 1342, Louis married his first wife, Margaret (1335 – 1349), underaged daughter of Charles IV, Holy Roman Emperor, who died while still a minor. He then married his second wife, Elisabeth, daughter of Stephen II of Bosnia, who became Louis's vassal, and Elisabeth of Kuyavia, in 1353. Louis had three known daughters, all born of his second wife: Catherine (1370 – 1378), Mary, his successor in Hungary, who married Sigismund, at that time Margrave of Brandenburg (1371 – 1395), who became King of Hungary (1387–1437) and Holy Roman Emperor (1433–1437). Hedwige his successor in Poland, who married Jogaila, then Grand Duke of Lithuania.
Later the King Matthias Corvinus was elected by the nobles of the Kingdom, being the first Hungarian monarch which descended from an aristocratic family, and not from a royal family that inherited the title by blood traces. The same happened decades later with the King John I of Hungary, who was elected in 1526 after the death of the King Louis II of Hungary in the battle of Mohács. After this, the House of Habsburg inherited the throne, and ruled Hungary from Austria for almost 500 years until 1918.
SEE THE CONNECTIONS WITH THE BLACK HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE?
The picture of Edward III is at the following link. It is a very large archive with many attached archives in other countries. It would be a very good thing for everyone to search these archives and post relevant pictures.
Edward III king of England (the Black Prince) - House of Plantagenet
Mike, a little error here. You have a picture of King Edward the III of England and in parenthesis "the Black Prince" that doesn't make sense.
what would make sense is to say
"Edward III king of England. (His son was The Black Prince)"
You make it seem as if King Edward himslef was called The Black Prince. Please put up a picture of Edward of Woodstock, Prince of Wales also known as the Black Prince, thank you. (select carefully)
lioness productions
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
^Thank you for the correction
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Quote from site: The portrait of Prince Edward of Woodstock follows the pattern of the other figures in the book: wearing the Order's mantle and arms, his own heraldry and that of his family. The portraits probably are not in their original order. The one now facing depicts Sir Sanset Dabrichecourt.
Note his heraldry on the bottom, includes the double headed Eagle of the Holy Roman Empire. Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
I want to title this thread properly:
______________________KING EDWARD III WAS A BLACK PERSON ______________________________HERE IS THE PROOF:
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
He,he,he
Now go away - shoo!
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
^A note on searching the library: Like all White institutions, they use only Whitenized images. But occasionally they miss the small ones. That is the only reason that I was able to get the picture of the Black Edward III above, which is on the page below. So you have to look at even small images carefully - use the zoom feature.
Also, they have an image search, try using that first.
Here is a real nice Whitenizing job they did on this Black woman. Sh1t, they even made her lighter than the White guys: He,he,he - Albinos are sick!
The biblical book known in the Protestant tradition as the Book of Revelation. During the Middle Ages, Apocalypse manuscripts were produced in Latin and Anglo-Norman versions often accompanied by COMMENTARIES, such as that of Berengaudus, and sometimes with PICTURE CYCLES of varying length, style, and technique. These cycles catered to a wide range of PATRONS.
Although known during the early Middle Ages, Apocalypse manuscripts were particularly popular in tenth- and eleventh-century Spain, where the scriptural text was integrated with the commentary of Beatus of Liébana (c. 776) and produced in lavishly illustrated copies in Mozarabic style. They were also popular in England for a brief time (c. 1250-75), with production probably centred in London. Apocalypse manuscripts proliferated during the thirteenth century, possibly due to escalating fears concerning the Antichrist (associated by many with the Holy Roman Emperor, Frederick II, 1194-1250), the approach of the Tartar hordes, and the coming of the Last Judgment. Use of the text as an ALLEGORY of personal Christian experience may also have added to its appeal.
APPLIED COVER
The picture is from Egerton manuscript 809
Origin Germany, S. (Swabia, possibly Hirsau) Date 1st quarter of the 12th century Language Latin Script Protogothic Decoration 4 full-page framed miniatures in colours and gold of the Nativity, the Holy Women at the Tomb, the Ascension, and Pentecost (ff. 1v, 27v, 33v, 35v). 2 large historiated initials (ff. 17, 41). Large initials in colours and gold, some with clasps, foliate decoration, animal heads, or other zoomorphic elements. Decorated incipit in gold letters in a framed border (f. 3v). Small initials in gold or red, a few on coloured grounds. Incipits in gold (chrysography).
Provenance ? The abbey of St Maximin at Trier, or Swabia, south Germany, possibly Hirsau (see Backhouse). f. [v] has a pasted paper 19th- or 20th-century handwritten description of the manuscript. Purchased at Sotheby's, 30 May 1840, lot 289 for £23.2.0 by the British Museum, using the Bridgewater fund (£12,000 bequeathed in 1829 by Francis Henry Egerton, 8th Earl of Bridgewater (b. 1756, d. 1829). Notes On guards with interleaving with numerous paper leaves. The miniatures and major initials were originally covered by silk curtains, which have now been removed and are stored with the original covers as Egerton 809B. These covers are blue velvet over boards, with an inset painting of Bishop Blaise, Agnes and ? Anthony Abbot.
It is found in Glossaries under the letter A Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
^Agnes I, Abbess of Quedlinburg (Agnes of Gandersheim)
Agnes I (born c. 1090; died 29 December 1125 in Quedlinburg) was Abbess of Gandersheim and Quedlinburg.
She was the second daughter of Judith of Swabia and Władysław I Herman. She was the granddaughter of Henry III, Holy Roman Emperor. Agnes became abbess at Gandersheim Abbey, place of several famous women, such as Hroswitha of Gandersheim, recorded by Conrad Celtes. She was Princess-Abbess of Quedlinburg from 1110 until 1126. She was excommunicated by Pope Calixtus II for her loyalty to the King of the Romans in 1119.
Gandersheim Abbey (German: Stift Gandersheim) is a former house of secular canonesses (Frauenstift) in the present town of Bad Gandersheim in Lower Saxony, Germany. It was founded in 852 by Duke Liudolf of Saxony, progenitor of the Liudolfing or Ottonian dynasty, whose rich endowments ensured its stability and prosperity. The "Imperial free secular foundation of Gandersheim" (Kaiserlich freie weltliche Reichsstift Gandersheim), as it was officially known from the 13th century to its dissolution in 1810, was a community of the unmarried daughters of the high nobility, leading a godly life but not under monastic vows, which is the meaning of the word "secular" in the title.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
The white people are crazy? He erased the black faces? This is a conspiracy against blacks. how whitened many black figures? This is combined. It can only be.
Posted by malibudusul (Member # 19346) on :
I think with microscopes can be proven the original color. like serie CSI
Posted by malibudusul (Member # 19346) on :
Mike malibudusul put this up. Is it real or fake ????
Posted by malibudusul (Member # 19346) on :
I do not know.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
^Fake.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Whoops! I Made a mistake!
The Lamb indicates I made a mistake.
Agnes of Rome (c. 291 – c. 304) is a virgin–martyr, venerated as a saint in the Roman Catholic Church, Eastern Orthodox Church, the Anglican Communion, and Lutheranism. She is one of seven women, excluding the Blessed Virgin, commemorated by name in the Canon of the Mass. She is the patron saint of chastity, gardeners, girls, engaged couples, rape victims, and virgins.
She is also known as Saint Agnes and Saint Ines. Her memorial, which commemorates her martyrdom, is 21 January in both the Roman Catholic calendar of saints and in the General Roman Calendar of 1962. The 1962 calendar includes a second feast on 28 January, which commemorates her birthday. Agnes is depicted in art with a lamb, as her name resembles the Latin word for "lamb", agnus. The name "Agnes" is actually derived from the feminine Greek adjective "hagnē" (ἁγνή) meaning "chaste, pure, sacred".
According to tradition, Saint Agnes was a member of the Roman nobility born c. 291 and raised in a Christian family. She suffered martyrdom at the age of twelve or thirteen during the reign of the Roman Emperor Diocletian, on 21 January 304.
The Prefect Sempronius wished Agnes to marry his son, and on Agnes' refusal he condemned her to death. As Roman law did not permit the execution of virgins, Sempronius had a naked Agnes dragged through the streets to a brothel.
As I always say, the White mans history is nothing but a made-up fantasy, supported by made-up artifacts. And yes malibudusul, it is a conspiracy - a very old one. The Albino fears his creator. Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
In the colorless Albinos made-up fantasy world, this is St. Agnes
The Wiki-article fails to mention that Venetian Ceruse was also a bleaching agent.
Do whites use bleaching crème’s?
I have introduced 'whitened portraits', you use 'whitenized.'
Part of the Black European Nobility held on to old esthetical rules, classical ideas of beauty, and had themselves depicted as whites; painting themselves white, and bleaching of skin: but without any intention to become white or marry whites.
So they provided these confusing portraits. But their use after 1848 is revisionism, because they fail to mention that these people were brown and black of complexion. The whites as we know them today are so since 1848.
By making the whites so powerful all through history you are not helping Blacks. Whites a small minority on this earth from the beginning, could never have been an equal force against all the black and brown people all over the world. They became a majority only in Europe, and they still are only a majority in Europe.
Egmond - I don't really understand the logic. When you say "old esthetical rules, classical ideas of beauty" what rules and classical ideas are you talking about? Also, if medieval Blacks were bleaching their skins, then it would not be necessary to Whitenize the old artifacts, since they would have been painted as White.
But they DID Whitenize the old artifacts - more examples to follow.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Book: Life of Christ Origin France, Central (Paris) Date c. 1460 - c. 1468
Heavily Whitenized, but as sometimes happens, the Whitenizer was sloppy, and failed to Whitenize the figures at the bottom of the pages.
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WHAT THESE BOOKS USED TO LOOK LIKE!
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Posted by malibudusul (Member # 19346) on :
Yes. this people look like albino very strange. yes. was whitened
More weird is how they did it at all.
I think we have to do a test scientific like diop to prove. do! then no one will doubt
Posted by malibudusul (Member # 19346) on :
Eureka!
Images are whitened during the "restoration" they "clean dirt" understand dirt as brown or black skin.
The restoration is one industry to whitening of the images of black people and makes them pig people
Posted by malibudusul (Member # 19346) on :
Everything became clearer to me now.
I'm seeing pictures of restorations. I noticed that the images of a thousand years ago or very less are restored. because that time her condition is terrible.
The restorer can do whatever you want.
In the catacombs they "cleaned the dirt" from the face of Jesus and his Disiple
Posted by malibudusul (Member # 19346) on :
ORANGE?????
Posted by malibudusul (Member # 19346) on :
Most of the old images are restored. very suspicious with appearance of the that were painted yesterday.
A painting of two hundred years must have the appearance of two hundred years!
Posted by malibudusul (Member # 19346) on :
Black people have to deal with racist translations and with racist restorations
Posted by cassiterides (Member # 18409) on :
quote:Originally posted by malibudusul: [QB] ORANGE????
No its red.
The majority of the ancient egyptians painted themselves as red because they were sunburnt.
The ancient egyptians were predominantly Mediterranean Caucasoids.
Btw, specifically note that afrocentrics admit that only white people sunburn - so basically they are admitting egypt was never black. Posted by Djehuti (Member # 6698) on :
^ ROTFLOL
Sure thing. Keep telling yourself that. Egyptians were all red from sun damage and many of them even died from skin cancer.
I suppose these Egyptian nobles having a party are just all red from sun burning too.
On the other end of the spectrum that is insanity...
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: In the colorless Albinos made-up fantasy world, this is St. Agnes
Yes, St. Agnes who was based on the Celtic fire goddess Agnes was really black. Posted by Djehuti (Member # 6698) on :
quote:Originally posted by malibudusul: ORANGE?????
The paint is obviously faded as well as light shining on it making it much lighter than it really is. However, look who's doing the restoration. Judging by the man's chocolate brown complexion, he is obviously an Egyptian native.
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness:
quote:Originally posted by malibudusul:
Edward III
(Edward III died in 1377 Edward's tomb in the Confessor's chapel in Westminster Abbey was erected after 1386 when payments were made for the Purbeck marble base. The gilded bronze effigy of the king resembles in style the effigy of the Black Prince in Canterbury Cathedral. They were probably cast by the same craftsman.)
Mike malibudusul put this up. Is it real or fake ????
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: ^Fake.
Mike, are you sure this is fake, it could be a straight haired black person?
Assuming it's fake do you think it was whitenized or was made from scratch as a fake King Edward III ?
If he lived to 1377. It is said the tomb for him in Westminster Abbey was created 9 years later in 1386. Is this the time whites took over and either created or whitenized this item? Was it created at a later time? What is the time period approximatly when whites took over and and whitenized all these things or made fake white versions of these people? Was it the Thirty Years War which ended in 1648?
There are a bunch of tombs in Westminster Abbey
Tomb Effigy of Henry III (lived 1207-1272) , Westminster Abbey
They record this as being created in 1291.
When was it really created?
But are you sure it's fake? What if it's a straight haired black man? Please school us on the time frame for whitenization.
Also if this whitenization occured and whites are still in power in Europe that all the art, every last piece of it must be fake. correct? why even show any of and say it represents the actual black kings of Europe?
Posted by cassiterides (Member # 18409) on :
quote:Originally posted by Djehuti: [QB] ^ ROTFLOL
Sure thing. Keep telling yourself that. Egyptians were all red from sun damage and many of them even died from skin cancer.
The majority of the royals retained their white or sallow complexion.
Princess Nefertiabet -
Blacks don't have skin like this.
Posted by malibudusul (Member # 19346) on :
lioness
these things are false. are of a thousand years ago. The termite ate the true. Certainty is fake ..
Posted by malibudusul (Member # 19346) on :
Princess Nefertiabet was brown
try again cassi
Posted by malibudusul (Member # 19346) on :
cassi
try being born again this time black. so there will be a glorious past to be proud
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
^LOL!
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
From Medieval manuscript: The person responsible for Whitenizing the picture apparently didn't understand that the figures were suppose to be symmetrical in skin color too. He whitenized the living, but left the dead as was. .
Posted by dana marniche (Member # 13149) on :
quote:Originally posted by Djehuti: [QUOTE]Originally posted by malibudusul: [qb] ORANGE????? [IMG]http://cache2.artprintimages.com/p/LRG/30/3060/KW2DF00Z/art-print/michele-molinari-e
I KNEW IT! Posted by dana marniche (Member # 13149) on :
quote:Originally posted by Djehuti:
quote:Originally posted by malibudusul: ORANGE?????
Umm this looks like the man is trying to make an orange complexion.
Tsssk, tssk, tssk.
Now I'll most definitely never be able to trust another thing LYIN A__ posts. Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Here is something interesting.
By now we all know, or should know, that Busts like this are 18th, 19th, century figments of the White mans imagination.
Marcus Tullius Cicero
Wiki: Marcus Tullius Cicero, by Bertel Thorvaldsen as copy from roman original, in Thorvaldsens Museum, Copenhagen. (How come they never show the original?)
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Now check this out.
Title: Le livre des quatre vertus (Hymn to the Virgin) Marcus Tullius Cicero
Origin France, Central (Tours) Date 1460 Language French Script: Gothic cursive Scribe: Pierre le Fevre Artists: Master of the Munich Boccaccio, perhaps one of the two sons of Jean Fouquet Provenance: Jean Le Gous, notary and secretary of Charles VII, written for him by Pierre le Fevre, colophon with the date 1460.
The picture of Cicero does not look generic, it looks specific. I can't help but think that the writer of the book had reference sources that are denied to us today. What wonders is the degenerate liar, the Albino, hiding from us? Posted by TruthAndRights (Member # 17346) on :
quote:Originally posted by cassiterides: Btw, specifically note that afrocentrics admit that only white people sunburn ...
CA-SH*T-HE-RIDES....
which eediat claims that ONLY yte people sunburn...because that is most certainly NOT true...light-skinned Black People can sunburn as well....you duppybat...
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Here is something interesting.
By now we all know, or should know, that Busts like this are 18th, 19th, century figments of the White mans imagination.
Marcus Tullius Cicero
... Wiki: Marcus Tullius Cicero, by Bertel Thorvaldsen as copy from roman original, in Thorvaldsens Museum, Copenhagen. (How come they never show the original?)
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Now check this out.
Title: Le livre des quatre vertus (Hymn to the Virgin) Marcus Tullius Cicero
Origin France, Central (Tours) Date 1460 Language French Script: Gothic cursive Scribe: Pierre le Fevre Artists: Master of the Munich Boccaccio, perhaps one of the two sons of Jean Fouquet Provenance: Jean Le Gous, notary and secretary of Charles VII, written for him by Pierre le Fevre, colophon with the date 1460.
The picture of Cicero does not look generic, it looks specific. I can't help but think that the writer of the book had reference sources that are denied to us today. What wonders is the degenerate liar, the Albino, hiding from us?
Nice find Mike111.
T&R, Jari, Dana, Lionese, and all the others "scholars" here who "KNOW FOR CERTAIN" that the ancient Romans were white Aryans, I hope you all are paying attention...
Classical Literature Evidence of Blonde Haired Romans
There seems to have been a blonde strain among the Roman emperors and patricians, as well as the other upper or aristocratic classes in ancient Rome. This owes to their Indo-European extraction.
Roman Emperors
In my previous essay [1] the following Roman and Byzantine Emperors were revealed to be blonde (as described in numerous classical sources): Augustus (Suet. Aug. 79), Caligula (Suet. Calig. 52), Nero (Suet. Ner. 51), Titus (Cougny, Anthol. Palat. #131, p. 20), Domitian (Malalas. Chronogr. 10. 262, 340), Trajan (Anthol. Palat. xv. 9. 3; Uffizi Gallery, Florence, Number. 101), Lucius Verus (HA. Life of Verus. x. 7), Commodus (Herodian. i. 12. 5; Michael Psellos. Chronographia. 33), Didius Julianus (BMCRE 5. lxix), Constantius Chlorus (Zonaras. Epitome Historiarum. 12. 31b), Constantius II (George Cedrenus. Compendium Historiarum. p. 521), Theodosius I (Cedrenus. Compendium Historiarum. p. 552; Aur. Vict. Caes. 48. 8), Theodosius II (Cedrenus. Compendium Historiarum. p. 587), Justinian I (Historia Arcana. viii. 4ff; Gibbon, Vol. III, 1831, p. 146). Finally the Byzantine Empress Zoe Porphyrogenita was also a blonde (Michael Psellos. Chronographia. 86).
Writers
The Roman playright Plautus (b. 254 BC) who was of middle-class origins, self-described himself as red faced, potbellied and fair haired (Pl. Pseudolus. iv. 7). [2] The Roman poet Tibullus (c. 55 - 19 BC) who owned an estate and was of the noble equestrian class, ''noted for his good looks'' (see the Vita Tibulli) had yellowish (myrtea) hair (Tib. iii. 4. 26). [3]
Others
The Roman military and political leader Pompey (106 - 48 BC) was blonde (Lucan. viii. 679). Plutarch in his Life of Sulla described the Roman statesman Lucius Conrelius Sulla as golden (chrusoton) haired. The Roman Consul Flavius Felix (d. 430 AD) was also blonde haired (Po. lat. min. iv. 396, 2 p. 338 Baehr). Of Roman cognomen or gens names, many referred to blonde hair (flavus, flavi, flavum, flavian). Sieglin (1935) [4] compiled many more references to blonde haired Roman individuals.
[2] Other translations are ''fair'', ''golden'', ''auburn'' or ''red'' haired. See The Comedies of Plautus. Henry Thomas Riley. London. G. Bell and Sons. 1912.
[3] The term myrtea coma (myrrh hair) is a reference to the colour of sapwood, a yellowish or fulvous colour (dull yellowish). According to the classical translator James Grainger, Tibullus' fourth elegy of his third book contains a cryptic reference to his fair hair colour (Elegies of Tibullus, Vol. ii, 1759, p. 167, footnote) however Grainger mistranslated myrrh as auburn or red, when actual fact it is a yellowish colour.
[4] Die blonden Haare der indogermanischen Völker des Altertums, Wilhelm Sieglin, 1935.
Posted by cassiterides (Member # 18409) on :
The following essay contains classical references to blonde Greek figures, sources were compiled by myself with the help of Sieglin (1935).
Pyrrha the mother of Hellen (the eponymous founder of the Hellenes) had red-golden hair (flavam religas comam) as described by Horace (Carm. i. 5) while her son Xuthus also derived his name from his fair hair (xanthe or xanthos). The ancient Greek lyric poet Pindar wrote that the hair of the Achaeans (Danaoi) was blonde (Nem. ix. 18). [1] [2] According to the renowned scholar Henry Liddell in his A Greek-English Lexicon (Oxford, Clarendon Press, 1940) xanthos is defined as a yellow, of various shades, freq. with a tinge of red, brown, auburn. The extent of ''the shade of'' depends on the ancient Greek region or locality, since different shades of fair or yellow were known. An ancient fragment from Theophastrus for example reveals that the Spartans knew xanthon to be a whitish-yellow (e.g. fair or platinum blonde). [3] Homer however applied xanthos to a range of non-dark hair colours: auburn to blonde, chestnut (reddish-brown) and fulvious (dull yellow) shades. [4] Cambridge Ancient History (1928, vol. 2, pp. 22-23) thus defines the term xanthos as any fair shade short of a dark colour (e.g. blonde to auburn).
Classicists however have easily demonstrated that in most instances the word xanthos is applied in ancient Greek literature to standard yellow or blonde. [5]
Bacchylides wrote that the hair of the Spartans was blonde (Dith. xx. 2) while also noting of the golden hair of athletes at the Nemean Games (Ep. ix. 23). The Spartans were the Dorians (Heracleidae) who claimed descent from Heracles. According to Euripides, Heracles was yellow haired (Her. 234, 360 ff) while Pausanias (ix. 34. 5) describes his eyes as ''bright'' e.g. light blue (charops). Baccylides also describes the hair of the Athenian foot race champion Aglaos as blonde (Ep. x. 16). [6]
The poet Euripides himself is described of the fair type with freckles (Vita Eurip. 25f).
The 7th century BC Spartan poet Alcman describes his cousin Hegesichora as golden (khrusos) haired (fragment 13. 54-55 Bergk) while the Spartan poetess Megalostrata as a ''blonde-haired maiden'' (fragment 37. Bergk). Menelaus, the legendary ruler of pre-Dorian Sparta is called xanthos throughout Homer's texts (Il. ii. 284; iii. 434; Od. i. 280; iii. 168) and this was a tradition that continued into late antiquity as Tatian in the 2nd century AD described Menelaus' hair as flaxen yellow (Address to the Greeks, 10). Eustathius (c. 1115) in his commentary on the Odyssey wrote that: ''Rhadamanthys is golden haired, out of compliment to Menelaos, for Menelaos had golden hair'' (Eustath. ad Hom. iv. 564).
Sappho (who was of aristocratic origin) was dark haired (Alcaeus. fragment 55 Bergk) but her daughter Cleis is described as ''a girl whose hair is yellower than torchlight'' (Sappho. fragment 98a). [7] Furthermore Sappho's eldest brother Charaxus is found described in Ovid as golden (flava) haired (Met. xii. 210). It seems then that although Sappho herself was brunette, most members of her family were in fact blonde which confirms the dominant blonde strain of the Greek aristoi. Critias, a noble Athenian oligarch and the uncle of Plato is also described as having blonde hair (Arist. Rh. i. 15. 1375b33; Proclus. On the Timaeus. i. 81. 27 Diehl). Aleuas the eponymous founder of the royal Thessalian Aleuadae family was as well fair haired (Schol. Apollon. Argon. iii. 1190). [8] Ptolemy II Philadelphus was another blonde (Theoc. Id. xvii). [9]
The Greek tryrant ruler Dionysius I of Syracuse (d. 367 BC) had yellow hair and freckles (Val. Max. i. 7. 6). Aspasia (fl. 415 BC) a priestess [10] from Phocaea and the favourite concubine of the Persian prince Cyrus the Younger was blonde haired, the ancient writer Aelian describes her as thus: ''Of hair yellow, locks a little curling... skin delicate, complexion like roses'' (Varia Historia, xii. 1).
Professor of Ethnography Wilhelm Sieglin (1855 - 1935) in his Die blonden Haare der indogermanischen Völker des Altertums compiled many more classical references to blonde haired Greek individuals. For references to fair haired Greek Gods see my collection of these sources. [11]
Notes & References
[1] The Odes of Pindar, Penguin Classics, 1969, p. 118.
[2] Who were the Greeks? John Linton Myres, University of California Press, 1967, p. 195.
[3] Ibid, see footnote 62 quoting from Theophastrus.
[4] Horses in the Iliad are called xanthe or xanthos and so as the scholar Cyrus Herzl Gordon has noted ''The colour xanthos as applied to heroes like Achilles probably means reddish brown (rather than "fair" or "blond") because it is also applied to horses where it seems to designate "sorrel" (Before the Bible, 1973, p. 231).
[5] The ancient Greeks called the herb xanthium strumarium, a hair dye which turned dark hair light yellow, certianly not any shade or auburn, brown or red (see Myres, 1967, p. 194).
[6] Die blonden Haare der indogermanischen Völker des Altertums,Wilhelm Sieglin, 1935.
[7] Vv. 1-12: (Papyrus Hauniensis), Sappho: A New Translation, University of California Press, 1958.
[8] A Classical Dictionary, Charles Anthon, Vol. ii, 1888, p. 1431.
[9] Quoted in A History of Ancient Greece, Claude Orrieux, 1999, p. 340.
[10] Though Aspasia's family was poor, she was from a well educated priestly class.
You have a description of Septimius Severus by any chance...
btw...duncebwoy...you do real-eyes that to be a 'Roman citizen' did not necessarily equal to be yte...
ah who cuda school this likkle eediatbwoy... Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
^The only thing that can be said for sure, is that degenerate, fearful, Albinos like cassiterides, have built a thick wall: made of bogus writings and artifacts, around the truth. Breaking it down, will take some time.
I have been trying to figure out when this Albino business of falsifying history began, and this manuscript is quite a surprise - if it's real.
The Book of the Queen - including 'Cent balades' (ff. 4-21), 'Le Débat du livre des ii amans' (ff. 58v-71), 'Le Livre des iii jugements' (ff. 71v-81), 'L'Épître Othéa' (ff. 95-141v), 'Le Duc des vrais amants' (ff. 143- 177v), 'Le Livre du chemin de long estude' (ff. 178-219v), 'Le Livre de la pastoure' (ff. 221-236v), 'Le Livre des Épîtres sur le Roman de la rose' (ff. 237-254), 'La Cité des dames' (ff. 288v-374), etc. Author: Christine de Pizan Origin France, Central (Paris) Date c. 1410-c. 1414 Language:French Script Gothic cursive Artists Attributed to the Master of the Cité des Dames and workshop and to the Master of the Duke of Bedford
Note the White God.
Here is a strange one, Hercules battling two lions. But Hercules was always depicted as a Black man. The solution? Depict Hercules with the filet typical of depictions of Blacks. In this particular book all mythical people appear to be depicted as White.
Blacks are only shown when they are contemporaries, i.e. when everybody knows what they look like. In this miniature of three pairs of lovers being presented to Jean de Werchin, Seneschal Prince of Hainault (Belgium), in 'Le Livre des iii jugements'. Seneschal was a contemporary, so falsely depicting him would have been stupid.
Judging by how White the three women are, Seneschal, the one other woman and the men, were probably a lot darker.
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111:
Now check this out.
Title: Le livre des quatre vertus (Hymn to the Virgin) Marcus Tullius Cicero
Origin France, Central (Tours) Date 1460 Language French Script: Gothic cursive Scribe: Pierre le Fevre Artists: Master of the Munich Boccaccio, perhaps one of the two sons of Jean Fouquet Provenance: Jean Le Gous, notary and secretary of Charles VII, written for him by Pierre le Fevre, colophon with the date 1460.
The picture of Cicero does not look generic, it looks specific. I can't help but think that the writer of the book had reference sources that are denied to us today. What wonders is the degenerate liar, the Albino, hiding from us? [/QB]
Mike, I'm sorry to point this out to you but the above is not a picture of Cicero. That should have been extremely obvious, they are not in Roman garb. The picture is of Medieval European persons discussing Cicero's rhetoric. Read the text translation
lioness productions getting tired of correcting shoddy research dept
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Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
^Duncey
Then those "medieval English" musta been Black-a-Moors!
Lion!
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: ^Duncey
Then those "medieval English" musta been Black-a-Moors!
Lion!
or swarthy types, White- a-Moors
I'm not sure which
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: ^Duncey
Then those "medieval English" musta been Black-a-Moors!
Lion!
or swarthy types, White- a-Moors
I'm not sure which
There was not born yet a White-a-Moors.
Now you admit that Moors were ruling medieval England.
A picture is indeed worth a thousand words.
Case closed!
Posted by malibudusul (Member # 19346) on :
Posted by malibudusul (Member # 19346) on :
number 9
is kingdom? name?
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by malibudusul: number 9
is kingdom? name?
Strasbourg
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
^Good get IronLion, you left the deranged one nowhere to go.
As to the picture, the caption says Cicero, there was no context indicated. The clothing means nothing, people today still dress like that.
Posted by cassiterides (Member # 18409) on :
''By african we mean those with wooly hair and full facial features'' - Marc Washington (quoted above)
Yet Marc Washington's 'Africans in France' pictures are mostly all straight flowing haired like whites.
look at the hair of 3, 5, 8, 9.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by cassiterides: ''By african we mean those with wooly hair and full facial features'' - Marc Washington (quoted above)
Yet Marc Washington's 'Africans in France' pictures are mostly all straight flowing haired like whites.
look at the hair of 3, 5, 8, 9.
Retard
Here are some current African Americans:
African Americans
Here are some Africans with natural straight hair:
Any more retarded comments? Posted by malibudusul (Member # 19346) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by malibudusul: number 9
is kingdom? name?
Strasbourg
This is my question. I can not find anything about this kingdom. It would be part of the kingdom franks? Were colonized by Rome I'm lost.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
^Europe has two history. The falsified one which fills the books' and the real one they try to hide.
Early Europe as you know was a black continent. It started becoming predominantly white after the middle ages near the rennaissance period.
One fact you need to keep in mind, the first Kings of Europe were Muurs; the builders of the castle and the churches were Muurs; the ruling class were Muurs; Then from the rennaissance period, to the Enlightenment period, Europe changed totally.
The entire early and medieval Europe was Muurish town, Moorland!...
Well, until the European (Albino) revolution of 1848.
Posted by malibudusul (Member # 19346) on :
Black man cut the head of barbaric white man without culture.
And many other cool images!
Posted by malibudusul (Member # 19346) on :
yes but this strasbourg was a kingdom? tell the story.
Posted by malibudusul (Member # 19346) on :
03:05 03:10 Black man cut the head of barbaric white man without culture.
Posted by malibudusul (Member # 19346) on :
Jean d'Aix-la-Chapelle. Black King (detail). Statue from the north portal of the cathedral in Strasbourg. 1497-1503. Strasbourg, Musée de l'Oeuvre Notre-Dame.
There are probably some well indoctrinated Negroes on the board, who will say that cassiterides and Lioness are the exception, and that not all White people are like that. Well, I don't know about ALL, but there sure is a lot of them like cassiterides and Lioness!
King John VI of Portugal was an important king in Europe - more will follow on that later. Try finding a photo of him in a museum - there are none. Try finding this photo on the web - forget it.
This is all you will find on the web.
Oh ya, and of course THESE!!!!!!!
Wiki:
You can't tell me the average Albino isn't a degenerate like cassiterides and Lioness! Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
^Liards, lizardas and wannabes!
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Now then, lets find some Niggers in the Wood-Pile!
John, Duke of Lancaster:
Son of Edward III and Philippa of Hainhault, father of Henry IV of England and husband of Blanche of Lancaster
John of Gaunt, Duke of Lancaster was born on 6th March 1340. He gained his name "John of Gaunt" because he was born at Ghent . The fabulously wealthy Gaunt exercised tremendous influence over the throne during the minority reign of his nephew, Richard II, and during the ensuing periods of political strife, but took care not to be openly associated with opponents of the King.
John of Gaunt's legitimate male heirs, the Lancasters, included Kings Henry IV, Henry V, and Henry VI. John of Gaunt's illegitimate descendants, who ultimately became legitimate by his marriage to Katherine Swynford in 1396, the Beauforts, later married into the House of Tudor, which ascended to the throne in the person of Henry VII. In addition, Gaunt's legitimate descendants included his daughters Philippa of Lancaster, Queen consort of John I of Portugal and mother of King Edward of Portugal, Elizabeth, Duchess of Exeter, the mother of John Holland, 2nd Duke of Exeter, and Katherine of Lancaster, Queen consort of Henry III of Castile, a grand-daughter of Pedro of Castile and the mother of John II of Castile.
When John of Gaunt died in 1399, his estates were declared forfeit to the crown, as Richard II had exiled John's less diplomatic heir, Henry Bolingbroke, in 1398. Bolingbroke returned and deposed the unpopular Richard, to reign as King Henry IV of England (1399–1413), the first of the descendants of John of Gaunt to hold the throne of England.
John of Gaunt was buried alongside his first wife, Blanche of Lancaster, in the nave of Old St. Paul's Cathedral in an alabaster tomb designed by Henry Yevele (similar to that of his son in Canterbury Cathedral).
Upon the death of his father-in-law Henry of Grosmont, he received half of Henry's lands, the title Earl of Lancaster, and the distinction as the greatest landowner in the north of England, because of his first marriage to his cousin, Blanche of Lancaster in 1359, heiress to the Palatinate of Lancaster. He also became the 14th Baron of Halton. John received the rest of the inheritance only when Blanche's sister, Maud, Countess of Leicester (married to William V, Count of Hainaut), died on April 10, 1362.
Gaunt received the title "Duke of Lancaster" from Edward III on 13 November 1362. John was by then well-established as a fabulously wealthy prince, owning at least thirty castles and vast estates across England and France. His household was comparable in scale and organisation to that of a monarch.
After the death of his elder brother, Edward of Woodstock later known as The Black Prince, John of Gaunt became increasingly powerful. He contrived to protect the religious reformer John Wyclif, for reasons that cannot be determined, but possibly to counteract the growing secular power of the Church. However, Gaunt's ascendancy to political power coincided with widespread resentment at his influence. At a time when English forces encountered setbacks in the Hundred Years' War against France, and Edward III's rule had started to become domestically unpopular, due to high taxation and to the king's affair with Alice Perrers, political opinion closely associated the Duke of Lancaster with the failing government of the 1370s. Furthermore, while the king and the Prince of Wales had the status of 'popular heroes' due to their success on the battlefield, John of Gaunt had never known equivalent military success, which might have bolstered his reputation. Although he did fight in the Battle of Nájera (Navarette), for example, his later military projects, such as his chevauchée of 1373 and his invasion of Castile in 1386, were unsuccessful.
On his marriage to Costanza of Castile in 1371, Gaunt assumed the title of King of Castile and Leon, and insisted that his fellow English nobles henceforth address him as 'my lord of Spain'.
When King Edward III died in 1377 and John's ten-year-old nephew succeeded to the throne as Richard II of England, Gaunt's influence strengthened further. However, mistrust remained, and some suspected him of wanting to seize the throne for himself. Gaunt took pains to ensure that he never became associated with the opposition to Richard's kingship; but as the virtual ruler of England during Richard's minority, he made some unwise decisions on taxation that led to the Peasants' Revolt in 1381, during which the rebels destroyed his Savoy Palace in London.
In 1386, Gaunt left England to make good his claim to the throne of Castile. However, crisis ensued almost immediately, and in 1387, Richard's misrule brought England to the brink of civil war. Only John of Gaunt, upon his return to England in 1389, was able to bring about a compromise between the Lords Appellant and King Richard, ushering in a period of relative stability and harmony. During the 1390s, John of Gaunt's reputation of devotion to the well-being of the kingdom became much restored. Gaunt died of natural causes on 3rd February 1399 at Leicester Castle, with his wife Katherine by his side.
In 1359 at Reading Abbey, Gaunt married his cousin, Blanche of Lancaster, daughter of Henry of Grosmont. Blanche died in 1368. It is believed the poet Geoffrey Chaucer, a friend and client of Gaunt, wrote and dedicated his "Book of the Duchess" to her, as the poem not only mentions a "Black Knight," but the "Lady White"; whom we can take to be Blanche, in allegory. At the end of the poem reference is made to Gaunt's marriage to Blanche by playing on the sound of their titles of Lancaster and Richmond in the form of "long castel" (line 1318) and "riche hil" (line 1319). Alternatively, the "long castel" could also refer to Constanza of Castile and the heraldic arms of Castile.
See how the Black man fell? Too many Niggers like that colorless P*ssy. Posted by cassiterides (Member # 18409) on :
^ That has nothing to do with race.
The 'Black Knights' of medieval legend were just knights who were evil, bad etc.
Black is symbolic of evil.
There were no literal 'black' (negro) knights roaming around Europe mating with white woman. This is just a sick afrocentric fantasy that has no basis in fact.
Bt, if you think i'm wrong are you saying the GREEN KNIGHT was green skinned?
The Green Knight is a character in the 14th-century Arthurian poem Sir Gawain and the Green Knight and the related work The Greene Knight.
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Where are these green skinned people?
The colours don't relate to race/skin etc.
they are pure symbolic. Most 5 year olds know this after hearing a story of medieval knights...
Posted by malibudusul (Member # 19346) on :
AHHAHAH
I did print screen this photo
John VI brazil
If whites Brazilian know that he was black will freak out
Posted by malibudusul (Member # 19346) on :
Look like Ignatius Sancho
I want to know more about John VI What the book Sex and race say about it?
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
The 'Black Knights' of medieval legend were just knights who were evil, bad etc.
cassiterides - Why are degenerate liars like you also very stupid?
Above there are three paragraphs extolling Lancaster's virtues, how then could he be a "Black Knight" because he was evil? Damn Albino boy, you sure are stupid!
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111:
King John VI of Portugal was an important king in Europe - more will follow on that later. Try finding a photo of him in a museum - there are none. Try finding this photo on the web - forget it.
This is all you will find on the web.
Oh ya, and of course THESE!!!!!!!
Wiki:
Mike, this post is not clear to me. Do you consider all the above honest portraitures of King John VI ???
As usual you lack the confidence to say something like "this painting portrays King John VI as a black person"
So I'm asking you now of the above what does each of these depictions show? Are some genuine and others fakes? which ones? Or is it just some random Portugese King you are randomly posting for fun with no point? What about the whole list of Portugese kings, black white or mulatto? How about some context ?
You should state clearly your theory rather than cowardly innuendo, which is that nature of most of your threads.
I repsect Marc much more becasue he takes a clear position, while you play games.
If you go delving into these European paintings and you think some of them show black people why would such a painting exist if their was a conspiracy to cover up that medieval European kings were all black? Why weren't these paintings destroyed?
But also, if you are going to point out certain art like that particular Otto I sculpture or the people discussing Cicero then we must assume that the works of that particular astists are genuine and accurate "racially". At this point we must then look at all of their paintings and consider the whole context what it says about Europe.
If you look at all of the work of one of these particular artists you might find that the works shows some black people in Europe but most were not. This is already mainsteam knowledge admitted to by the man and not controversial.
You need a thesis what is it?
1) All the kings of Europe were black prior to a certain date, what date Mike? Mike if you can't give a date or date range for this your conspiracy theory has no legs
or
2) Many of the earliest kings of Europe were white but some not acknowledged as black or mulatto were in fact black or mulatto
which is it Mike?
Mike, it's time to grow up and take a position rather than spam pictures ambiguously in a cowardly non-commital manner. How can we have black power when people are afraid to say openly without fear what they mean? Clyde does it. Marc does it. Even Eggy. They don't play these games. It's your turn to do it,
thank you,
lioness
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Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
He,he,he.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Above I posted that apparently what Whites were doing with the illuminated manuscripts was leaving famous Black people as is, but Whitenizing everyone else. I think the following two images will confirm that.
I can't read Swiss or German, but unless I miss my guess, the top picture is St. Maurice, who is left obviously Black.
But this guy is colored the same as everybody else, to hide the presence of Blacks.
The pictures are from this 1576 book. Not long after this book was written, the Thirty Years War will start, and that will be the end of Black rule in Europe.
Aarau, Aargauer Kantonsbibliothek, MsWettF 16: 1
Paper · VIII + 1168 pp. · 37.5 x 24 cm · Wettingen · 1576
Silbereisen: Chronicon Helvetiae, Part I
A richly illustrated Swiss chronicle in three parts, comprising three books. The newest and most comprehensive book (Part I) contains the origin and history of the Confederation up to the 14th century. The oldest book (Part II) contains a description of the Burgundian wars of the 15th century. The subsequent book (Part III) describes selected events from the history of the Confederation during the 15th and 16th centuries, such as Waldmannhandel arbitration (1489) and the Battle of Marignano (1515), and contains an illustrated catalog of ordnance captured in the Swabian War of 1499. (pel)
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111:
The pictures are from this 1576 book. Not long after this book was written, the Thirty Years War will start, and that will be the end of Black rule in Europe.
"but I need your help"
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
He,he,he
Posted by Troll Patrol (Member # 18264) on :
quote:Originally posted by cassiterides: ^ That has nothing to do with race.
The 'Black Knights' of medieval legend were just knights who were evil, bad etc.
Black is symbolic of evil.
There were no literal 'black' (negro) knights roaming around Europe mating with white woman. This is just a sick afrocentric fantasy that has no basis in fact.
Bt, if you think i'm wrong are you saying the GREEN KNIGHT was green skinned?
The Green Knight is a character in the 14th-century Arthurian poem Sir Gawain and the Green Knight and the related work The Greene Knight.
======
Where are these green skinned people?
The colours don't relate to race/skin etc.
they are pure symbolic. Most 5 year olds know this after hearing a story of medieval knights...
It's funny and amazing how one can be in denial.
Anyway, repost.
The University's Director of Archaeological Museums, Lindsay Allason-Jones, who has organized an exhibition of the Museum's Romano-African artefacts to coincide with Black History Month, says:'From the evidence we have here, it is clear that colour was no bar to the status an individual could achieve in the Roman Empire'...
“Africans have been present in Europe from classical times. In the 2nd and 3rd centuries Roman soldiers of African origin served in Britain, and some stayed after their military service ended. According to the historians Fryer, Edwards and Walvin, in the 9th century Viking fleets raided North Africa and Spain, captured Black people, and took them to Britain and Ireland.
From the end of the 15th century we begin to see more evidence for the presence of Black Moors in the accounts of the reign of King James IV of Scotland, and later in Elizabethan England.”
Africans have been present in Europe from classical times. In the 2nd and 3rd centuries Roman soldiers of African origin served in Britain, and some stayed after their military service ended. According to the historians Fryer, Edwards and Walvin, in the 9th century Viking fleets raided North Africa and Spain, captured Black people, and took them to Britain and Ireland. From the end of the 15th century we begin to see more evidence for the presence of Black Moors in the accounts of the reign of King James IV of Scotland, and later in Elizabethan England.
King James IV (1473-1513) and the Black Moors of his Court
King James IV of Scotland came to the throne in 1488. He was an able and visionary monarch whose administration united and maintained order in the Scottish highlands and lowlands. He encouraged manufacturing and shipbuilding, and created a navy. James IV also renewed Scotland's alliance with France, although in 1503 he took an English wife, Margaret Tudor, daughter of Henry VII of England.
James was a popular, fun-loving king with many interests. Many Black Moors were present at his court. Some worked as servants or (possibly) slaves, but others seem to have been invited guests or musicians. We know that he courted Margaret with lute and clavichord recitals and took her out hunting and playing sports.
The King Provides Clothes for the Party Document | Transcript
After their marriage, the king's Lord High Treasurer's accounts provide numerous entries to show how much he enjoyed lively entertainment, employing foreign minstrels from Italy and elsewhere. King James was generous to all kinds of people, including Black Moors, as the following entries from the Treasurer's accounts demonstrate:
To celebrate Shrove Tuesday in 1505, several Africans including a 'taubronar' (drummer) and a choreographer were present in Edinburgh. Twelve dancers (including Italians) performed in specially made black-and-white costumes costing £13 2s 10d. Was this the origin of Morris (Moorish) dancing?
In 1504-5 the 'Moryen' taubronar was paid 28 shillings to allow his taubroun (drum) to be painted.
James bought a horse at a cost of £4 4s for this drummer, who accompanied him when he toured his northern domains.
The King Requests an Audience with a Black Baby Document | Transcript
Moor women were also mentioned in the Treasurer's accounts. It is clear that they were not servants, since they were showered with items such as gowns of satin, ribbons, slippers and gloves, paid for by the king.
Entries that refer to Moor women include:
'Blak Elene' or 'Elen More' was given five French crowns in 1512.
A 'blak madin' who attended Queen Margaret was given four-and-a-quarter ells (just over five yards) of French russet.
'Blak Margaret' was given a gown costing 48s in 1513.
'Two blak ladies' staying at the Scottish Court were presented with 10 French crowns as a New Year gift at a cost of £7.
In 1527, one item simply said ' to Helenor, the blak moir - 60 shillings' .
After James IV's death at Flodden in 1513 during the Franco-Scottish invasion of England, fewer references to Africans appear in the accounts. Interestingly, however, in 1594, during the reign of James VI, a richly attired Black Moor was paid to help pull the chariots during celebrations to mark the birth of James's eldest son, Henry Frederick. Nothing more is known about this man except that he lived in Edinburgh.
A variety of fabrics were used to make clothing for the Moors - velvet ('wellus'), woollen kersey ('carsay') and fine Holland linen - which was decorated or fastened with buttons, rings or other ornaments ('mailyeis'). These were paid for by the treasury of King James IV. It seems that these Moors were not servants; it is more likely that they were invited guests staying at the palace.
Accounts of the Lord High Treasurer of Scotland, vol. 3, p. 101 (1505)
This extract from the Lord High Treasurer's accounts show that in 1505/6 a payment of 28 shillings was made to 'the nuris that brocht the Moris barne to see, be the Kingis command'. The king must have known of this child to ask to see it.
The child may have been that of the 'More taubronar', the Black drummer at court. Treasury accounts also itemise accommodation for the 'wife of the taubronar and his barne'. This would suggest that the drummer was living at the palace with his family.
Accounts of the Lord High Treasurer of Scotland, vol. 3, p. 182 (1505/6)
Posted by Troll Patrol (Member # 18264) on :
Awesome post.
I can read and understand some of the words. But it's hard since it's in classic scripture. But it indeed speaks of St. Maurice.
The second one says something about Jewish. (Juden)
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Above I posted that apparently what Whites were doing with the illuminated manuscripts was leaving famous Black people as is, but Whitenizing everyone else. I think the following two images will confirm that.
I can't read Swiss or German, but unless I miss my guess, the top picture is St. Maurice, who is left obviously Black.
But this guy is colored the same as everybody else, to hide the presence of Blacks.
The pictures are from this 1576 book. Not long after this book was written, the Thirty Years War will start, and that will be the end of Black rule in Europe.
Aarau, Aargauer Kantonsbibliothek, MsWettF 16: 1
Paper · VIII + 1168 pp. · 37.5 x 24 cm · Wettingen · 1576
Silbereisen: Chronicon Helvetiae, Part I
A richly illustrated Swiss chronicle in three parts, comprising three books. The newest and most comprehensive book (Part I) contains the origin and history of the Confederation up to the 14th century. The oldest book (Part II) contains a description of the Burgundian wars of the 15th century. The subsequent book (Part III) describes selected events from the history of the Confederation during the 15th and 16th centuries, such as Waldmannhandel arbitration (1489) and the Battle of Marignano (1515), and contains an illustrated catalog of ordnance captured in the Swabian War of 1499. (pel)
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
I thought so, thank you.
As we have seen from cassiterides and Lioness, Albinos really aren't very bright, their modus is easy to spot.
Posted by Troll Patrol (Member # 18264) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: I thought so, thank you.
As we have seen from cassiterides and Lioness, Albinos really aren't very bright, their modus is easy to spot.
Considering the flag in the background, I'd say it's Swiss in origin.
The Swiss coat of arm goes way back. Showing the same symbol.
Posted by cassiterides (Member # 18409) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: I thought so, thank you.
As we have seen from cassiterides and Lioness, Albinos really aren't very bright, their modus is easy to spot.
Not sure why you keep lumping me with her (if they actually are a female). She is your race, not white.
You see some blacks themselves hate afrocentrism after seeing how dumb it is. Confirming truth however is the only black i have met on a forum who has gone the full way to admitting the truth - e.g. that blacks don't have a history at all hence their obsession to steal white people's.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
He,he,he
Posted by malibudusul (Member # 19346) on :
One thing I do not understand. If all europe were black why some were called Moors? So it looks like black people were a minority in Europe. if whites were new in europe where are the texts? as it was called?
Posted by cassiterides (Member # 18409) on :
quote:Originally posted by malibudusul: One thing I do not understand. If all europe were black why some were called Moors? So it looks like black people were a minority in Europe. if whites were new in europe where are the texts? as it was called?
Blacks entered Europe as slaves during ancient Greece and later during the Roman Empire.
They are not indigenous to Europe.
In fact if it wasn't for the Greeks and Romans paying for Sub-Saharan slaves and dragging them to Europe, blacks wouldn't have arrived until only a few hundred years ago.
In Northern Europe, blacks only appeared one or two hundred years ago.
The earliest literature appearance of a Negro in British records is the 17th century. However they only settled in mass numbers post-1948 (Empire Windrush).
Basically blacks have no ancestral connection to Britain whatsoever, which is why its so funny to see afrocentrics claim the opposite.
Denialism of the facts is a mental illness.
If blacks have an 'ancient' presence in Britain as the Afrocentrics claim - where is the evidence? Nothing ever gets posted.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by malibudusul: One thing I do not understand. If all europe were black why some were called Moors? So it looks like black people were a minority in Europe. if whites were new in europe where are the texts? as it was called?
Your question is not clear. Do you want to restate the question again?
One thing to be clear about though, pink-whites recently arrived into Europe. The tribes of the Goths, the Slavs, and the Russ, from which all living pink-white Europeans descend, only came into Europe in the 4th-century AD after the fall of Roman Empire.
Alaric the Visigoth was the first pink-pale Goth who open the flood gates to the pink-pale barbarians from central Asia.
Then those barbarians were permitted to settle in Germania, Britannia or the Albion Islands, Hispania, even into North Africa.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
malibudusul - I think I addressed that question at least twice.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
More from Aarau, Aargauer Kantonsbibliothek:
Troll Patrol - I would appreciate it if you could translate the text. The man on the right is a Holy Roman, I don't recognize the other shields.
This is a strange one. Who is the man, and what is that he is giving to Henry VIII?
Posted by malibudusul (Member # 19346) on :
Why do the texts speak of Moors if Europe was black? it seems that the majority were white.
understand?
example If there is an all-black country why in the texts call some of the Moors? only if the majority is not Moor.
Why Alessandro de' Medici was called "the moor"?
Moors were not all? so why make this differentiation? looks like that blacks were strangers in europe
this is my doubt
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by malibudusul: Why do the texts speak of Moors if Europe was black? it seems that the majority were white.
understand?
example If there is an all-black country why in the texts call some of the Moors? only if the majority is not Moor.
Why Alessandro de' Medici was called "the moor"?
Moors were not all? so why make this differentiation? looks like that blacks were strangers in europe
this is my doubt
Mike asked me to give you this message:
"I can't answer the question I need help"
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: but I need help!
it's O.K. Mike help will be arriving soon
Posted by Troll Patrol (Member # 18264) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: ^Duncey
Then those "medieval English" musta been Black-a-Moors!
Lion!
or swarthy types, White- a-Moors
I'm not sure which
The French word for white would be, Le Blanche.
Taken it further it means, without colour.
Posted by Troll Patrol (Member # 18264) on :
quote:Originally posted by malibudusul: One thing I do not understand. If all europe were black why some were called Moors? So it looks like black people were a minority in Europe. if whites were new in europe where are the texts? as it was called?
Blacks entered Europe as slaves during ancient Greece and later during the Roman Empire.
They are not indigenous to Europe.
In fact if it wasn't for the Greeks and Romans paying for Sub-Saharan slaves and dragging them to Europe, blacks wouldn't have arrived until only a few hundred years ago.
In Northern Europe, blacks only appeared one or two hundred years ago.
The earliest literature appearance of a Negro in British records is the 17th century. However they only settled in mass numbers post-1948 (Empire Windrush).
Basically blacks have no ancestral connection to Britain whatsoever, which is why its so funny to see afrocentrics claim the opposite.
Denialism of the facts is a mental illness.
If blacks have an 'ancient' presence in Britain as the Afrocentrics claim - where is the evidence? Nothing ever gets posted.
Again for this pseudo intellectual arsehole.
The University's Director of Archaeological Museums, Lindsay Allason-Jones, who has organized an exhibition of the Museum's Romano-African artefacts to coincide with Black History Month, says:'From the evidence we have here, it is clear that colour was no bar to the status an individual could achieve in the Roman Empire'...
It's funny and amazing how one can be in denial, repost.
The University's Director of Archaeological Museums, Lindsay Allason-Jones, who has organized an exhibition of the Museum's Romano-African artefacts to coincide with Black History Month, says:'From the evidence we have here, it is clear that colour was no bar to the status an individual could achieve in the Roman Empire'...
“Africans have been present in Europe from classical times. In the 2nd and 3rd centuries Roman soldiers of African origin served in Britain, and some stayed after their military service ended. According to the historians Fryer, Edwards and Walvin, in the 9th century Viking fleets raided North Africa and Spain, captured Black people, and took them to Britain and Ireland.
From the end of the 15th century we begin to see more evidence for the presence of Black Moors in the accounts of the reign of King James IV of Scotland, and later in Elizabethan England.”
Africans have been present in Europe from classical times. In the 2nd and 3rd centuries Roman soldiers of African origin served in Britain, and some stayed after their military service ended. According to the historians Fryer, Edwards and Walvin, in the 9th century Viking fleets raided North Africa and Spain, captured Black people, and took them to Britain and Ireland. From the end of the 15th century we begin to see more evidence for the presence of Black Moors in the accounts of the reign of King James IV of Scotland, and later in Elizabethan England.
King James IV (1473-1513) and the Black Moors of his Court
King James IV of Scotland came to the throne in 1488. He was an able and visionary monarch whose administration united and maintained order in the Scottish highlands and lowlands. He encouraged manufacturing and shipbuilding, and created a navy. James IV also renewed Scotland's alliance with France, although in 1503 he took an English wife, Margaret Tudor, daughter of Henry VII of England.
James was a popular, fun-loving king with many interests. Many Black Moors were present at his court. Some worked as servants or (possibly) slaves, but others seem to have been invited guests or musicians. We know that he courted Margaret with lute and clavichord recitals and took her out hunting and playing sports.
The King Provides Clothes for the Party Document | Transcript
After their marriage, the king's Lord High Treasurer's accounts provide numerous entries to show how much he enjoyed lively entertainment, employing foreign minstrels from Italy and elsewhere. King James was generous to all kinds of people, including Black Moors, as the following entries from the Treasurer's accounts demonstrate:
To celebrate Shrove Tuesday in 1505, several Africans including a 'taubronar' (drummer) and a choreographer were present in Edinburgh. Twelve dancers (including Italians) performed in specially made black-and-white costumes costing £13 2s 10d. Was this the origin of Morris (Moorish) dancing?
In 1504-5 the 'Moryen' taubronar was paid 28 shillings to allow his taubroun (drum) to be painted.
James bought a horse at a cost of £4 4s for this drummer, who accompanied him when he toured his northern domains.
The King Requests an Audience with a Black Baby Document | Transcript
Moor women were also mentioned in the Treasurer's accounts. It is clear that they were not servants, since they were showered with items such as gowns of satin, ribbons, slippers and gloves, paid for by the king.
Entries that refer to Moor women include:
'Blak Elene' or 'Elen More' was given five French crowns in 1512.
A 'blak madin' who attended Queen Margaret was given four-and-a-quarter ells (just over five yards) of French russet.
'Blak Margaret' was given a gown costing 48s in 1513.
'Two blak ladies' staying at the Scottish Court were presented with 10 French crowns as a New Year gift at a cost of £7.
In 1527, one item simply said ' to Helenor, the blak moir - 60 shillings' .
After James IV's death at Flodden in 1513 during the Franco-Scottish invasion of England, fewer references to Africans appear in the accounts. Interestingly, however, in 1594, during the reign of James VI, a richly attired Black Moor was paid to help pull the chariots during celebrations to mark the birth of James's eldest son, Henry Frederick. Nothing more is known about this man except that he lived in Edinburgh.
A variety of fabrics were used to make clothing for the Moors - velvet ('wellus'), woollen kersey ('carsay') and fine Holland linen - which was decorated or fastened with buttons, rings or other ornaments ('mailyeis'). These were paid for by the treasury of King James IV. It seems that these Moors were not servants; it is more likely that they were invited guests staying at the palace.
Accounts of the Lord High Treasurer of Scotland, vol. 3, p. 101 (1505)
This extract from the Lord High Treasurer's accounts show that in 1505/6 a payment of 28 shillings was made to 'the nuris that brocht the Moris barne to see, be the Kingis command'. The king must have known of this child to ask to see it.
The child may have been that of the 'More taubronar', the Black drummer at court. Treasury accounts also itemise accommodation for the 'wife of the taubronar and his barne'. This would suggest that the drummer was living at the palace with his family.
Accounts of the Lord High Treasurer of Scotland, vol. 3, p. 182 (1505/6)
Posted by Troll Patrol (Member # 18264) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: More from Aarau, Aargauer Kantonsbibliothek:
Troll Patrol - I would appreciate it if you could translate the text. The man on the right is a Holy Roman, I don't recognize the other shields.
This is a strange one. Who is the man, and what is that he is giving to Henry VIII?
It's hard to read, but I think the second one is saying something like.
A complainant. And getting rights and justice. Which is also visible in the painting.
Funny is this was written during a time when most inhabitants were just plain stupid and illiterate. These scripts were either written and drawn by medieval monks or aristocrats.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness: meow..meow...meowwww...
The Dunce cat meows! Pride of the Class!
Posted by malibudusul (Member # 19346) on :
troll
this is a Eurocentric vision. The black history sites are influenced with the Eurocentric view.
The kings of Europe were black that is a fact.
The Vikings were also black.
This "history" of "Moorish" is racism is a way of white making people think that blacks were few. they take the blacks who have real images and put the name of Moor to make us think that blacks were foreigners. Try to find it. When he began the story of "Moorish"? Whites invented it I think
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by Troll Patrol: Funny is this was written during a time when most inhabitants were just plain stupid and illiterate. These scripts were either written and drawn by medieval monks or aristocrats.
Nothing funny or unusual about it. The whole point of the pictures is to show that Blacks were the educated nobility in medieval Europe, and Whites are degenerate revisionist liars.
I will keep posting until malibudusul understands.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
^Never mind the last part, seems malibudusul has figured it out. Posted by malibudusul (Member # 19346) on :
this image of rudolf is very beautiful. where is it located? lucky that the vandals did not destroy. _____________________________________
Another important thing!
The paintings of the Renaissance are false. mona lisa is false
Mona Lisa is very old
If it is true was changed in the restoration
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Now would probably be a good time to recap.
I have shown pictures of Black European Kings, and I have shown pictures of the fake portraits that Whites have created to replace their real portraits.
Below we see a nobleman in England giving something to Henry VIII. Please note, he is not begging for anything, though he may be petitioning. Also note that he is leading a delegation of other Black nobles: we know that they are nobles, because they are ARMED in front of the King!
Aside from Whites creating false artifacts, they have also created a false history to explain away the few Blacks found in conventional White history. I offer this example from another idiot Albino similar to Cass.
Otherwise, the blacks I have found -- nearly all by Cretan painters -- are with one exception slaves/servants or magi/kings. The images of slaves are reasonable. That is how blacks would have, for the most part, been visible in the Greek-speaking world. Since they are slaves, they get the unpleasant jobs: smashing things, cutting off heads, crucifying saints, massacring babies.
That fool didn't just pull that opinion out of thin air, it is a revised history that Whites have been teaching and propagating for a long time.
Has anybody thought to wonder WHY!
I'll tell you why: because if it was admitted that Blacks had such hegemony, and such numbers, then even the stupidest would then wonder: well where are they NOW!
If Blacks had been assimilated, what reason would there be to lie? None!
If Blacks had been assimilated, what reason would there be to create false pictures for them? None!
But yet, they are obviously now gone, but WHY are they gone?
another thing I have noticed that the history of mankind is indeed racial. Historians white and some black historians say no
Posted by malibudusul (Member # 19346) on :
They say no. say it has only recently begun. but if we see. we see that the racial tensions between blacks and whites already existed in ancient Egypt, India ...
"the Egyptian documents already referred to call the invaders Tamahu"
Posted by malibudusul (Member # 19346) on :
Black Egyptians V.S Typhonians/Tamahu's/White People/Devils
"morus" this is his last name. It says nothing that he was black. but it must be black because at that time was black nobility
Posted by malibudusul (Member # 19346) on :
"This illustration of Viking Varangian troops near Moscow is from the chronicle of Skylitzis, he was a Greek historian, dead c. 1100.
Where the Vikings and the ancient Goths or Göter the same as the pre-Christian Romans mixed together with local populations?"
quote:Originally posted by Brada-Anansi: I can take any number of select paintings/pics and prove that the Swiss were Black or Kenyans were whites.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness:
quote:Originally posted by Brada-Anansi: I can take any number of select paintings/pics and prove that the Swiss were Black or Kenyans were whites.
Lioness I couldn't find that post in the thread, could you please tell me where it is?
Posted by cassiterides (Member # 18409) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111:
One word:
Genocide [/QB]
Mike so are you a white supremacist?
You are claiming whites mass slaughtered or conquered blacks.
This implies blacks must be inferior if they couldn't defend themselves.
Posted by malibudusul (Member # 19346) on :
"The wife of John VI, who was the sister of the King of Spain, seems also to have been Negroid, according to this French duchess, who says that the queen's skin was brown and her hair “dry and woolly.” Since the King of Portugal was" World's Great Men of Color, Volume 2 By Joel Augustus Rogers
The wife of John VI was black also his grandson Peter II is white.
peter II
So who is white in family? the wife of Peter I was white?
quote:Originally posted by cassiterides: Mike so are you a white supremacist?
You are claiming whites mass slaughtered or conquered blacks.
This implies blacks must be inferior if they couldn't defend themselves. [/QB]
No, Mike's saying that the black kings were a small and gentle people who developed writing and liked to study a lot. The whites were illiterate cave men neanderthal types who liked to hit things with sticks. They got the black people to teach them how to be refined and cultured, to read and write. They had sex with some and produced mulattos. But then after they learned from the gentle black folk they pulled out their sticks and killed them. There were no blacks left. The blacks you see in Europe today are a different branch of blacks who came in later from Africa and they are not small.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
^the blind leads the blind...
Posted by TruthAndRights (Member # 17346) on :
LOL smh Posted by Djehuti (Member # 6698) on :
quote:Originally posted by castratedhide: The majority of the royals retained their white or sallow complexion.
Princess Nefertiabet -
Blacks don't have skin like this.
Your claims were already debunked here! Why bother?
quote:Originally posted by dana marniche:
Umm this looks like the man is trying to make an orange complexion.
Tsssk, tssk, tssk.
Now I'll most definitely never be able to trust another thing LYIN A__ posts.
Note that the man doing the restoration is himself black (Egyptian).
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
If any are actually investigating the medieval manuscripts, here is some additional thoughts and links.
A key thought should be "Conspicuous by their Absence". Anytime you find manuscripts with "NO" Blacks, that is a Red Flag that they have done more than just Whitenize the images, they may have make a complete copy of the manuscript. If that sounds extreme, just remember that you are dealing with a degenerate liar and Genocidest, who is trying to cover-up his crimes. I believe that is the case with the
Also note that the British library is only showing "selected" images from "selected" manuscripts. In all cases, in-person inspection of the manuscripts is necessary.
This is a useful link: Wiki's list of illuminated manuscripts Worldwide.
This site has some pictures which I have not used, because I could not authenticate them. They also cite manuscripts without saying where they are. But since it is a White racist site, the data may be accurate.
15th C. Ag. Nikolaos Orphanos, Thessalonike Scene from the life of Ag. Gerasimos.
Ivrion ms.
16th C Ag. Nikolaos
Michael Damaskenos, 16th C. Detail from Crucifixion of Ag. Andreas.
17th C Cretan Massacre of the Innocents an enthusiastic combination of Herod's banquet, and Herod's massacre.
Andreas Pavias, 3rd quarter, 15th C. Alexander Tsoutsos Museum, Athens.
Ioannis Permeniatis, early 16th C. Private collection, from Boulgaropoulou.
Ioannis Permeniatis, early 16th C. Benaki Museum, Athens. Similar icon in New York in a private collection.
Continued Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Andreas Pavias, 3rd quarter, 15th C. Alexander Tsoutsos Museum, Athens.
Early 16th C. Byzantine Museum, Thessaloniki.
Detail from late 15th C. Alexander Tsatsos Museum, Athens.
Michael Damaskenos, 16th C. Collection of Ecclesiatical Art, St. Catharine's, Heraklion.
Mid-16th C. Domenikos Theotokopoulos. Benaki Museum, Athens.
Posted by Egmond Codfried (Member # 15683) on :
Wonderful IMAGES but not PORTRAITS. The Moors symbolise blue blood, black supremacy. Black Europeans came out as Blacks to show that Black does not only mean Muslim or Heathen.
As I'm moving on, I think about all the types we find in Africa, also found in Europe. Perhaps some Black nobles looked like Fulani's, and were fair. Or they were descendents of fair looking Berbers. The European nobility and royalty knew many types and complexioned, and they need not have married a white Serf to have fair descendents. Reading about Robert Carr, a favourite of James I Stuart, I presume he was also used as a propagandistic ploy to placate whites, as the Stuarts were fiercely Black oriented.
Posted by Egmond Codfried (Member # 15683) on :
I often find descriptions of historical persons being blond, while I understand they were Blacks. How is this possible? Perhaps the European Blacks numbered individuals among them who resembled these Australians: Black, but with blond hair? It's very rare to find in Surinam a person with brown skin, but natural fair hair. Mostly reddish.
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
Mike are you sure you want to put this one up?
This shows black kings? What are you trying to show us with this painting?
If you look at the post where Mike included this painting and others they are all copied form this blog, note what the blogger says in the text:
King Herod has ordered that the babies be killed and the dark skinned servant chips in
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Lioness - The one thing that Blacks have going for them, is that degenerate lying Albinos like yourself are really stupid, and have a hard time remembering their previous lies.
Oh ya, and they have a hard time reading with comprehension.
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Aside from Whites creating false artifacts, they have also created a false history to explain away the few Blacks found in conventional White history. I offer this example from another idiot Albino similar to Cass.
Otherwise, the blacks I have found -- nearly all by Cretan painters -- are with one exception slaves/servants or magi/kings. The images of slaves are reasonable. That is how blacks would have, for the most part, been visible in the Greek-speaking world. Since they are slaves, they get the unpleasant jobs: smashing things, cutting off heads, crucifying saints, massacring babies.
That fool didn't just pull that opinion out of thin air, it is a revised history that Whites have been teaching and propagating for a long time.
Has anybody thought to wonder WHY!
I'll tell you why: because if it was admitted that Blacks had such hegemony, and such numbers, then even the stupidest would then wonder: well where are they NOW!
If Blacks had been assimilated, what reason would there be to lie? None!
If Blacks had been assimilated, what reason would there be to create false pictures for them? None!
But yet, they are obviously now gone, but WHY are they gone?
One word:
Genocide
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Lioness - The one thing that Blacks have going for them, is that degenerate lying Albinos like yourself are really stupid, and have a hard time remembering their previous lies.
if it was admitted that Blacks had such hegemony, and such numbers, then even the stupidest would then wonder: well where are they NOW!....
Genocide
Mike, Marc and Clyde are much clearer about the pictures they post. Anybody reading this thread would not know the point you are trying to make about the above painting.
Are you trying to say it's fake or altered.
If you had any confidence in what you were saying you would make it clear:
Either one of the below type of statements should be made when you post paintings bacause you talk about a art conspriacy perpetrated by whites. So when you put up these paintings it is not clear that you intend to show that the painting contradicts the conspiracy or supports it.
It is not clear what you intend as per each painting or sculpture you post. You post an Otto I sculpture that you say is not part of the conspiracy that it reveals him to be black but then you post paintings and imply they are part of the conspiracy.
For example in the above painting you posted you were afraid to indicate one of these options:
1) this is a fake painting and was created much later then claimed
2) this painting shows that black people were involved in royal affairs
3) in the original painting everybody was black but they changed the colors later to make the king look white.
...but know one can figure out excatly what you are trying to show, and that's just the way you want it
what you are doing is playing games with innuendo and ambiguity It's flabby
.That's why Marc and Clyde are better than you
.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
He,he,he. Flopping around like a fish out of water.
Posted by Troll Patrol (Member # 18264) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: If any are actually investigating the medieval manuscripts, here is some additional thoughts and links.
A key thought should be "Conspicuous by their Absence". Anytime you find manuscripts with "NO" Blacks, that is a Red Flag that they have done more than just Whitenize the images, they may have make a complete copy of the manuscript. If that sounds extreme, just remember that you are dealing with a degenerate liar and Genocidest, who is trying to cover-up his crimes. I believe that is the case with the
Also note that the British library is only showing "selected" images from "selected" manuscripts. In all cases, in-person inspection of the manuscripts is necessary.
This is a useful link: Wiki's list of illuminated manuscripts Worldwide.
This site has some pictures which I have not used, because I could not authenticate them. They also cite manuscripts without saying where they are. But since it is a White racist site, the data may be accurate.
15th C. Ag. Nikolaos Orphanos, Thessalonike Scene from the life of Ag. Gerasimos.
Ivrion ms.
16th C Ag. Nikolaos
Michael Damaskenos, 16th C. Detail from Crucifixion of Ag. Andreas.
17th C Cretan Massacre of the Innocents an enthusiastic combination of Herod's banquet, and Herod's massacre.
Andreas Pavias, 3rd quarter, 15th C. Alexander Tsoutsos Museum, Athens.
Ioannis Permeniatis, early 16th C. Private collection, from Boulgaropoulou.
Ioannis Permeniatis, early 16th C. Benaki Museum, Athens. Similar icon in New York in a private collection.
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Nice images Mike, showing Africans in classic Europe. In different walks of life.
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Troll Patrol:
Nice images Mike, showing Africans in classic Europe. In different walks of life. [/QB]
why are you calling this nice? Mike says it's fake. Don't you know the kings and all these people wer black not just the one lone black person in the painting????
Mike, you need to help out TP he thinks degenerate albino product is "nice", thanks Lp
Posted by malibudusul (Member # 19346) on :
If there was genocide there must be evidence as skeletons, bones
Posted by malibudusul (Member # 19346) on :
quote:Originally posted by malibudusul: If there was genocide there must be evidence as skeletons, bones
Oliver Cromwell and his associates sent Charles I to the headsman, and the king was buried in St. George's Chapel, Windsor. Just where, however, remained in dispute until workers accidentally made a hole in the wall of Henry VIII's burial vault in 1813. There, along with Henry's coffin, were those of his wife Jane Seymour and the stillborn baby of Queen Anne. There also was a coffin covered with black velvet, inscribed "King Charles 1648." ....
Almost 200 years later when it was opened again in 1813:....
"The complexion of the skin was dark and discolored. The forehead and temples had lost little or nothing of their muscular substance; the cartilage of the nose was gone; but the left eye, in the first moment of exposure, was open and full, though it vanished almost immediately: and the pointed beard, so characteristic of this period of the reign of King Charles, was perfect..."
Posted by malibudusul (Member # 19346) on :
1860 (?) Robert Bradford Williams (d. 1942), African-American-New Zealander lawyer (Class of 1885, Yale), born a slave in Georgia. He was a 'black minstrel' in Australia for a lengthy period beginning in the late 1880s, a colleague of Orpheus Myron McAdoo in the Fisk Jubilee Singers. Williams later became the longest-serving Mayor of Onslow, a suburb of Wellington, New Zealand.
quote:Originally posted by malibudusul: If there was genocide there must be evidence as skeletons, bones
Princess Louise Marie Therese
She was called the "Mauresse de Moret", and a portrait of her exists in the Bibliothèque Sainte Geneviève in Paris. The research done by the Société de l'histoire de Paris et d'Ile-de-France, published in 1924 by Honoré Champion éditions,[4] concluded that this pastel portrait was painted around 1680 by the same hand which painted the series of twenty-two pastel portraits of Kings of France, from Louis IX to Louis XIV, between 1681 to 1683 on the initiative of Father Claude Du Molinet (1620–1687), librarian of Sainte Geneviève abbey.
Shortly after the death of the French Queen Maria Theresa of Spain in 1683, wife of Louis XIV, courtiers pointed out this woman as the ... daughter of the Queen...
Posted by malibudusul (Member # 19346) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by malibudusul: If there was genocide there must be evidence as skeletons, bones
Princess Louise Marie Therese
She was called the "Mauresse de Moret", and a portrait of her exists in the Bibliothèque Sainte Geneviève in Paris. The research done by the Société de l'histoire de Paris et d'Ile-de-France, published in 1924 by Honoré Champion éditions,[4] concluded that this pastel portrait was painted around 1680 by the same hand which painted the series of twenty-two pastel portraits of Kings of France, from Louis IX to Louis XIV, between 1681 to 1683 on the initiative of Father Claude Du Molinet (1620–1687), librarian of Sainte Geneviève abbey.
Shortly after the death of the French Queen Maria Theresa of Spain in 1683, wife of Louis XIV, courtiers pointed out this woman as the ... daughter of the Queen...
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by malibudusul:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by malibudusul: If there was genocide there must be evidence as skeletons, bones
Princess Louise Marie Therese
She was called the "Mauresse de Moret", and a portrait of her exists in the Bibliothèque Sainte Geneviève in Paris. The research done by the Société de l'histoire de Paris et d'Ile-de-France, published in 1924 by Honoré Champion éditions,[4] concluded that this pastel portrait was painted around 1680 by the same hand which painted the series of twenty-two pastel portraits of Kings of France, from Louis IX to Louis XIV, between 1681 to 1683 on the initiative of Father Claude Du Molinet (1620–1687), librarian of Sainte Geneviève abbey.
Shortly after the death of the French Queen Maria Theresa of Spain in 1683, wife of Louis XIV, courtiers pointed out this woman as the ... daughter of the Queen...
LOL! Look her up... Posted by malibudusul (Member # 19346) on :
we see that the racial tensions between blacks and whites already existed in ancient Egypt..
Dubious. Alleged "racial" tensions are a projection of modern racism and its struggles not ancient reality. Who exactly were these ancient Egyptian "whites" by the way? Can you define them?
zarahan I said that the Egyptians called the white of "tamahu". This is an example of racial hatred before the 19th century Another example is in India and its caste. Another example is the whites Muslims who were racist against blacks.
Posted by Brada-Anansi (Member # 16371) on :
Marie Therese was the son of an African page named Nabo
malibudusul you have to understand all European artworks represent the European perspective.
European white people are currently in power and in charge of the art.
This means all European art is lies.
If we go looking for black people in European art what's the point?
Whatever you are looking at is what they want you to look at.
All European art is lies and fakes. All of it because they are in charge today of all the art and all the museums showing the art.
Therefore looking for black people in European artworks has no value. Mike hasn't realized this yet. He goes looking for black people in European art.
What good is doing this? Whatever black people in European art they are shown to express sone kind of lie about them.
Why look at any of it?
It's all lies so why bother posting any of it?
.
Posted by kikuyu22 (Member # 19561) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by malibudusul: If there was genocide there must be evidence as skeletons, bones
Princess Louise Marie Therese
She was called the "Mauresse de Moret", and a portrait of her exists in the Bibliothèque Sainte Geneviève in Paris. The research done by the Société de l'histoire de Paris et d'Ile-de-France, published in 1924 by Honoré Champion éditions,[4] concluded that this pastel portrait was painted around 1680 by the same hand which painted the series of twenty-two pastel portraits of Kings of France, from Louis IX to Louis XIV, between 1681 to 1683 on the initiative of Father Claude Du Molinet (1620–1687), librarian of Sainte Geneviève abbey.
Shortly after the death of the French Queen Maria Theresa of Spain in 1683, wife of Louis XIV, courtiers pointed out this woman as the ... daughter of the Queen...
And now,reasonable skeptics on this thread will accept new realities. Photo evidence and explanation is good enough for me. There was, at least in French royalty, an appreciable black straiknHO
Posted by Brada-Anansi (Member # 16371) on :
Lioness
quote:What good is doing this? Whatever black people in European art they are shown to express sone kind of lie about them. Why look at any of it? It's all lies so why bother posting any of it?
Poppycock!! If they didn't exist some would deny the African presence in Europe at any period but the present as non existent(Insert Cassizoid and like minds),or a few "slaves" but each piece has to be evaluated individually along with the stories they are trying to tell,the problem is that for some..Europeans holds some sorta exclusivity in regards to their history, biology,science and technology the images tends to make that out-look a lie..while they are seen as the founders of everything or anything bigger than an ant hill.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
He,he,he - Quite a diabolical twist Lioness! What, if lies no longer work, befuddle them with the truth? Ha,ha,ha.
Or is it something more: perhaps like feigning defeat, in the hope that the naive will stop looking?
No my little furball feline, each and every White man lie has a story. It is important for us to see and understand those stories, they give us a clue as to what was really going on at the time.
Right now, all we can say for sure, is that all the White man teaches, must be taken as a lie, and work back from there. But common sense tells us that some parts of it must be true, after all, there he is.
So which parts are true, and which parts are lies. Certainly only the stupidest of humans would trust the White man to tell us, so we have to investigate every document and artifact, and thereby reassemble the truth for ourselves. This will likely take many generations, and the work that we do now will serve as a foundation. (He,he, When I said "We" I was most certainly NOT including you).
quote:Originally posted by the lioness: malibudusul you have to understand all European artworks represent the European perspective.
European white people are currently in power and in charge of the art.
This means all European art is lies.
If we go looking for black people in European art what's the point?
Whatever you are looking at is what they want you to look at.
All European art is lies and fakes. All of it because they are in charge today of all the art and all the museums showing the art.
Therefore looking for black people in European artworks has no value. Mike hasn't realized this yet. He goes looking for black people in European art.
What good is doing this? Whatever black people in European art they are shown to express sone kind of lie about them.
Why look at any of it?
It's all lies so why bother posting any of it?
.
Posted by malibudusul (Member # 19346) on :
If there was genocide there must be evidence as skeletons, bones...
If they killed all the blacks of Europe where are the bones?
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: He,he,he - Quite a diabolical twist Lioness! What, if lies no longer work, befuddle them with the truth? Ha,ha,ha.
Or is it something more: perhaps like feigning defeat, in the hope that the naive will stop looking?
No my little furball feline, each and every White man lie has a story. It is important for us to see and understand those stories, they give us a clue as to what was really going on at the time.
If the story is a lie why do you assume that there's any truth in it? Do you go looking for truth in Snow white and the seven Dwarfs?
If the white man is rambling like a mad man in an insane asylum why do you bother with what he says. Do you seek out history lessons from patients in mental hospitals?
quote:Originally posted by Mike111:
He,he,he
Mike, stop that, you're starting to sound like a laughing inmate of one of the aforementioned hospitals
quote:Originally posted by Mike111:
Right now, all we can say for sure, is that all the White man teaches, must be taken as a lie, and work back from there. But common sense tells us that some parts of it must be true, after all, there he is.
What type of common sense are you talking about? You are told about Jack and the Beanstalk or that fish were multiplied with the wave of a hand. Why assume that there is some element of truth in it? Why do you keep going into the white man's pants trying to find out what color underwear he has? The jokes on you, he's not wearing any
quote:Originally posted by Mike111:
So which parts are true, and which parts are lies.
It's all lies Mike, stop trying to confuse the black man. You're just trying to attention by pointing to complete fabrication and tricking us into believing there's some element of truth in it. You're working for the white man. You perpetuate the idea that if the black man looks closely enough at the white man's fairy tales he might find a gold nugget of some kind. Only problem is it's a rock with gold paint on it.
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Certainly only the stupidest of humans would trust the White man to tell us, so we have to investigate every document and artifact, and thereby reassemble the truth for ourselves.
^^^ Mike stop trying to trick black folk. You say that it is stupid to trust what the white man presents to us. Then you say go over it with a fine tooth comb. Why do you need to comb the white man's hair to discover that's it's infested with lice?
Damn Mike you sure do have your eye up the butt of the white man looking for buried treasure
You are sumarily dismissed as well as your European fairy tale art. The black kings of Europe would be rolling over in their graves over your obsession with albino paint dribble
We could be enjoying African art instead Mike asks us to find ouselves within some old white people ravings and rantings, spend all day celebrating that some wicked as French or German white man painted us in one of his coloring books.
Mike wants us to believe that the white man who perpetrated a genocide and controls every piece of art we look at is going to hide in a little clue to his guilt like an easter egg for us to find. If we look hard enough for the gold wrapper Wily Wonka will let us expose him and take over the chocolate factory. It's like a movie, look for the gold key to that palace, lil' Mikey in Wonderland
. Lp.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
He,he, going in circles.
Posted by Troll Patrol (Member # 18264) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness:
quote:Originally posted by Troll Patrol:
Nice images Mike, showing Africans in classic Europe. In different walks of life.
why are you calling this nice? Mike says it's fake. Don't you know the kings and all these people wer black not just the one lone black person in the painting????
Mike, you need to help out TP he thinks degenerate albino product is "nice", thanks Lp [/QB]
Don't take my writing out of context! I commented on all the images.
Thanks.
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Troll Patrol:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness:
quote:Originally posted by Troll Patrol:
Nice images Mike, showing Africans in classic Europe. In different walks of life.
why are you calling this nice? Mike says it's fake. Don't you know the kings and all these people wer black not just the one lone black person in the painting????
Mike, you need to help out TP he thinks degenerate albino product is "nice", thanks Lp
Don't take my writing out of context! I commented on all the images.
Thanks. [/QB]
they're all fake. I just used one example. Same point about evey picture. All European paintings are fake, whites are in charge of each and every one, for example the manuscripts that Mike posted. Did he find them in an old bookstore that got overlooked? No. They are from the British Museum. Every image is the one the degenerate albino wants us to see.
It's all lies.
Therfore there is nothing to be learned from them . It's pure propaganda.
We shouldn't even be looking at this white made paint dribblings
malibudisul will back me on this.
Don't let Mike fool you into spending all your time looking at this white mans fanatsy world. and then calling it "important" Mike has fallen in love with this wicked ass white man. Next thing you know he'll be running around in tights like an albino Prince
Posted by Egmond Codfried (Member # 15683) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by malibudusul: If there was genocide there must be evidence as skeletons, bones
Princess Louise Marie Therese
She was called the "Mauresse de Moret", and a portrait of her exists in the Bibliothèque Sainte Geneviève in Paris. The research done by the Société de l'histoire de Paris et d'Ile-de-France, published in 1924 by Honoré Champion éditions,[4] concluded that this pastel portrait was painted around 1680 by the same hand which painted the series of twenty-two pastel portraits of Kings of France, from Louis IX to Louis XIV, between 1681 to 1683 on the initiative of Father Claude Du Molinet (1620–1687), librarian of Sainte Geneviève abbey.
Shortly after the death of the French Queen Maria Theresa of Spain in 1683, wife of Louis XIV, courtiers pointed out this woman as the ... daughter of the Queen...
Once in a while I find my images blocked on this site...
This story off course abuts with my own research. I have found that Maria Teresa was a sister of the wife of Leopold I Hapsburg, Margarita Teresa, Holy Roma Empress; both are daughters of Fillips IV of Spain. In these sources the story is reprinted that the body of Louis XIV was ‘black as ink.’ I have still a thread: Kings of Melanin’ that show Louis XIV as black of complexion. He was a full cousin of Charles II Stuart: The Black Boy, and a tall black man. I have defined the European Black nobility as a fixed mulatto race, some looking more African, Asian or white. The more African looking type had classical African features.
Egmond - It occurs to me that you have not been given your proper due. I often credit Clyde's early work with giving me research direction when I had hit a dead end in the old days.
But the fact is, that until your input, it never occurred to me that Blacks had survived in Europe until modern times, much less, were still the rulers and ruling class. Certainly I knew what degenerate liars Whites were, I learned that early on. But until you came along, I never even dreamed about just how massive a fraud they had created and carried out. Those fuchers gotta be the sickest creatures on the planet. And thanks to you, now everyone will be researching their fraud, and picking it apart, piece-by-piece. Thank you!
Posted by Egmond Codfried (Member # 15683) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Egmond - It occurs to me that you have not been given your proper due. I often credit Clyde's early work with giving me research direction when I had hit a dead end in the old days.
But the fact is, that until your input, it never occurred to me that Blacks had survived in Europe until modern times, much less, were still the rulers and ruling class. Certainly I knew what degenerate liars Whites were, I learned that early on. But until you came along, I never even dreamed about just how massive a fraud they had created and carried out. Those fuchers gotta be the sickest creatures on the planet. And thanks to you, now everyone will be researching their fraud, and picking it apart, piece-by-piece. Thank you!
Thank you,
You have alerted me to the fact that whites came from central Asia, when I noticed already that there are no credible explanations coming from eurocentrists of where whites come from. They are forever talking about the European Blacks, 6000 years, becoming whites, just like that.
Do you remember that guy from the Fourth of July movie who discovered the countdown by the aliens? Well, there is countdown going on with this Revisionism (I hope you will stop using these coarse expressions). Soon there will be no one left to ask questions about black images. The Revisionism will be complete.
I have stated that Europe was like a Reversed Apartheid. And I can add that it was like the caste-system today in India, although for Europe there was a element of complexion. But a high cast person just accepts his higher rank, and looks down on the lower ranks. There is no discussion among themselves, internally or externally. Until the lower ranks force them to be accepted: The French Revolution and then the final Revolutions of 1848.
This I find in both Jane Austen and Charlotte Bronte: they view themselves and other brown and black skinned people as superior. This theme is constantly expressed in their books, but the whites cannot see it or accept it. Spiritually blind. Racism is a liberation ideology, and they have chosen to hide the Black superiority period.
The idea is that we discuss things to come to a new understanding, one cannot do it all by himself. But the aim is to make something workable for the poor people, short and clear to empower them, information they can easily verify.
Your Surinam cousin,
Egmond
Posted by Egmond Codfried (Member # 15683) on :
Descartes
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Egmond - It occurs to me that you have not been given your proper due. I often credit Clyde's early work with giving me research direction when I had hit a dead end in the old days.
But the fact is, that until your input, it never occurred to me that Blacks had survived in Europe until modern times, much less, were still the rulers and ruling class.
There was a genocide but some of the blacks were absorbed into the ruling class. They liked to kill black people but yet mix with them at the same time the picture is becoming more and more clear
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
Sir Isaac Newton
Posted by Egmond Codfried (Member # 15683) on :
Mike, it’s a good thing we are pushing the envelope, because the whole history needs to be rewritten. We need to ask new questions. But you have not convinced me about genocide. I have found that Blacks who considered themselves superior, a superior cast, were bullied into ‘biological assimilation.’ I think of how Idi Amin drove Indians out of Uganda, for the same reasons: they did not mix; they did not share the wealth with other Ugandans. The European Blacks used to intermarry, to keep their blood pure. The whites as we know them today are only so since 1848 when the European elites stopped using them for shoe leather. If you speak about whites making some equal army against blacks, you are giving whites powers they did not have before 1848: you are not helping Blacks.
Posted by Troll Patrol (Member # 18264) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness:
Sir Isaac Newton
I knew it, he is South Indian.
Posted by madness ensues (Member # 15917) on :
He's a Nuisance Posted by malibudusul (Member # 19346) on :
I was on wikipedia and saw a hopscotch.
People of hopscotch look like black people.
Agree?
Look!
Posted by malibudusul (Member # 19346) on :
Very Strange!
Notice!
This picture seems which was changed to seem like a conflict between blacks and whites but if we look carefully noticed that the horses are going the same way! Got it? They designed two horses in a beating other's head! I think.
It appears the group upfront is being chased.
Posted by HERU (Member # 6085) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness:
quote:Originally posted by Mike111:
King John VI of Portugal was an important king in Europe - more will follow on that later. Try finding a photo of him in a museum - there are none. Try finding this photo on the web - forget it.
This is all you will find on the web.
Oh ya, and of course THESE!!!!!!!
Wiki:
Mike, this post is not clear to me. Do you consider all the above honest portraitures of King John VI ???
As usual you lack the confidence to say something like "this painting portrays King John VI as a black person"
So I'm asking you now of the above what does each of these depictions show? Are some genuine and others fakes? which ones? Or is it just some random Portugese King you are randomly posting for fun with no point? What about the whole list of Portugese kings, black white or mulatto? How about some context ?
You should state clearly your theory rather than cowardly innuendo, which is that nature of most of your threads.
I repsect Marc much more becasue he takes a clear position, while you play games.
If you go delving into these European paintings and you think some of them show black people why would such a painting exist if their was a conspiracy to cover up that medieval European kings were all black? Why weren't these paintings destroyed?
But also, if you are going to point out certain art like that particular Otto I sculpture or the people discussing Cicero then we must assume that the works of that particular astists are genuine and accurate "racially". At this point we must then look at all of their paintings and consider the whole context what it says about Europe.
If you look at all of the work of one of these particular artists you might find that the works shows some black people in Europe but most were not. This is already mainsteam knowledge admitted to by the man and not controversial.
You need a thesis what is it?
1) All the kings of Europe were black prior to a certain date, what date Mike? Mike if you can't give a date or date range for this your conspiracy theory has no legs
or
2) Many of the earliest kings of Europe were white but some not acknowledged as black or mulatto were in fact black or mulatto
which is it Mike?
Mike, it's time to grow up and take a position rather than spam pictures ambiguously in a cowardly non-commital manner. How can we have black power when people are afraid to say openly without fear what they mean? Clyde does it. Marc does it. Even Eggy. They don't play these games. It's your turn to do it,
thank you,
lioness
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Duchesse d' Abrantes, wife of the French ambassador to the court of John VI:
"Son enorme tete, surmontee d'une chevelure de negre, qui, au reste, etait bien en harmonie avec ses lèvres épaisses , son nez africain et la couleur de sa peau."
"His enormous head with its negro hair, which, moreover, was quite in harmony with his thick lips, his African nose, and the color of his skin." - Memories, pg 200, Paris, 1837
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