The no go area of popular fictionalized white bwoy history is that "the Aryans built Rome".
How true is this?
No it is a damned lie! The truth was that Rome was a multi-ethnic Empire. Any true scholar with the slightest mastery of classics will attest to this.
Rome as well as the entire southern and central and western Europe was built by aboriginal black Europeans sometimes called the mysterious Celts, NIGRI-LATINIS, the IBERIANS or the Maurs.
Sometimes authors attribute the origin of Rome to Etruscans, or to Greeks or to Canaanites. It is generally acknowledged that those three powers were themselves basically multi-ethnic, and also that the Canaanites were singularly black and African in origin.
Later we get an influx of barbarians nomads, who were assimilated and romanized.
Then slaves from the Slavic and Germanic tribes were captured from Northern Europe and used on Roman plantations in Central Europe.
And then one must not forget that the cultural founts of Rome was not anywhere on the European mainland but in North Africa, with Egypt and the province of Africa being the most sophisticated, and civilized in arts, science and culture. The cultural capital of the Roman Empire was Alexandria in Egypt.
All the inhabitants of the Roman provinces of Africa could easily attain to Roman citizenship and even aspire to become Emperors of Rome.
Not so for today's so-called white people who were actually called barbarians and hated by the Roman state and Empire. They were the threats of the day, the potential carries of contagions mental and spiritual, eroders of morality. Besides the oracles of Delphi had forcasted that barbarians whites would eventually overun the emipre.
They eventually did. Bursting the barriers of imperial Rome which had contained them in Central Europe, the barbarians gothic an slavic hordes swamped Rome, southern and central Europe, western Europe as well, bursted into Africa, and then onwards to the Americas and Australia. Like demons released from hell.
Those Barbarians are the direct ancestors of todays so-called Italians, French, Germans, English, Beligia, Holland, Sweden, Russia, and the whole of the so-called white races of todays Europa.
And those gothic descendants have spent a thousand years, re-writing history, destroying monuments, burning books and libraries, in an attempt to hide the truth about themselves, and to usurp the majesty and excellence of the great black civilizations. They would trick the black children (the real owners of this world) into a life of complancency and surbodination, wherein they are unable to assert their legitimacy.
Which is why they have invested so much energy in re-writing and retelling the story of the Roman Empire and its fall, at the hands of the barbarians so-called whites.
See the Roman Dread Locks Legion of Lucius Quietus, the Overall Commander of the Roman Legions
what a moron. Anyone who buys this crap needs to chack themselves into a mental institution and and submit to shock treatments.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by Hammer: what a moron. Anyone who buys this crap needs to chack themselves into a mental institution and and submit to shock treatments.
Come-on hammerhead, I've been preaching this for years, what's the surprise?
It was true then, it's still true now - at least the Etruscan part. I never heard about the NIGRI-LATINIS or the Maurs before.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Mike
I will dig up an article on Nigri latinis tonight for you.
Lion!
Posted by Hammer (Member # 17003) on :
Mike, almost nothing you say is true. the world rolls on and you continue to live is a little world of goof ball history that nobody pays any attention to. I wasn't kidding about the mental isnstitution. Those people think they are right as well. There is not any difference between you and the guy in the mental institution who goes around thinking he is Napoleon.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by Hammer: what a moron. Anyone who buys this crap needs to chack themselves into a mental institution and and submit to shock treatments.
Hammer
Anyone filled up with the ignorance and vacuity as in your case, would be equally shocked!
But real documentary proof is there for the intelligent ones.
Lion!
Posted by Hammer (Member # 17003) on :
Iron, When you make a goofey, wildeyed statement that is miles outside the bounds of accepted scholarship the burden of proof is on you.
No educated Greek/Roman scholar agrees with your stupid positions.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
The Nigri Latinis
Morlachs (Mauro-Vlachs or Mavrovlachi, also Nigri Latini in Latin sources, meaning "Black Vlachs"; in Greek: Μαυροβλάχοι, in Serbian and Croatian Morlaci [mor-latsi] or Морлаци) were a population of Vlachs. In another version their name comes from the slavic terms of "morski-Vlasi" or Sea Vlachs. The morlachs were shepherds that lived in the Dinaric Alps (western Balkans in modern use), seasonally migrating in search for better pastures for their sheep flocks (between mountains, in the summertime, and the sea shores, in the wintertime). They were a blend of previously Romanized indigenous peoples and new settled Roman army veterans and Roman colonists.
The adjective "black" may be used here with the meaning of "northern", this metaphor probably deriving from the Turkish practice of indicating cardinal directions by colors.
Reports from the mid-11th century tell how the Morlachs lived in the mountainous regions of Montenegro, Bosnia, Stari Vlah, and Herzegovina
If you notice, the wiki author of article above tries to explain the meaning of the latin word "Nigri" as Northern!
Well both of us know that Nigri is a word used for Black people.
We also know that the Greek word Mauros used for Mauro Vlach means Black and not Northern.
The word "Vlach" comes from the same roots as "Wealas". They say Wealas was the name the Goths and the Slavs called the people they met on the land.
The Gothics claim the word Wealas or Welsh means a stranger to their tribe. Among the Ibos of Nigeria, N'Weala means owner of the land.
In any event the Gothics were immigrants to Europe, and the Wealas were aboriginal. None gothic people.
Consequently, if we hear that people were called Nigri latinis, or black Vlach, or Mauros Vlach, we know automatically that such people were:
1. Black in complexion
2. Moorish in Nationality
3. Of pure Latini origin
4. Aboriginal
5. European. Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
MOOR ON NIGRI LATINIS OR THE MOOR-LACHS
The Morlachs (Mavrovlachi) of the West.—
These are already mentioned as Nigri Latini by the presbyter of Dioclea (c. 1150) in the old Dalmatian littoral and the mountains of what is now Montenegro, Herzegovina and North Albania. Other colonies extended through a great part of the old Servian interior, where is a region still called Stara VlaIka or “Old Walachia.”
The great commercial staple of the east Adriatic shores, the republic of Ragusa, seems in its origin to have been a Ruman settlement, and many Viach traces survived in its later dialect. Philippus de Diversis, who described the city as it existed in 1440, says that “the various officers of the republic do not make use either of Slav or Italian, with which they converse with strangers, but a certain other dialect only partially intelligible to us Latins,” and cites words with strong Ruman affinities.
In the mountains above Ragusa a number of Viach tribes are mentioned in the archives of that city, and the original relationship of the Ragusans and the nomadic Alpine representatives of the Roman provincials, who preserved a traditional knowledge of the old lines of communication throughout the peninsula, explains the extraordinary development of the Ragusan commerce.
In the 14th century the Mavrovlachi or Morlachs extended themselves towards the Croatian borders, and a large part of maritime Croatia and northern Dalmatia began to be known as Morlacchia. A Major Vlachia was formed about the triple frontier of Bosnia, Croatia and Dalmatia, and a “ Little Walachia” as far north as Po~ega. [font color=red]The Morlachs have now become Slavonized[/font] (see DALMATIA).
somebody start the twilight zone music Lion is a nut.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by Hammer: Iron, When you make a goofey, wildeyed statement that is miles outside the bounds of accepted scholarship the burden of proof is on you.
No educated Greek/Roman scholar agrees with your stupid positions.
Then I have no choice but to give you what I normally call:
NIGRI LATINIS 101 or
MOOR-LACHS 101.
When you realize the ethnicity of these people you will know the ethnicity of the true Romans!
Now respond: Who were the Nigri Latinis?
Wh were the Moor-Lachs?
Who were the Iberians?
Lion!
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by Hammer: somebody start the twilight zone music Lion is a nut.
Masonic Hammer
I know I have you in a panic mode cause this information challenges the foundation of all your hubris.
Now cease the noisemaking and provide me with articles refuting my arguments.
And while you are at it recall my queries:
Who were the Iberians?
Who were the Capsaians?
Who were the Nigri Latinis?
Who were the Silures?
Any clue????
Lion!
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by Hammer: somebody start the twilight zone music Lion is a nut.
Lion, don't be upset by this type of retort. I get it all the time, especially from the idiot Lioness. Just notice that they make no attempt to actually REFUTE what you say, because that would require contrary FACTS - of which there are NONE!
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
IronLion - I had to do some reading to see what you were talking about.
Vlach
Vlach (pronounced /ˈvlɑːk/ or /ˈvlćk/) or Wallachian is a blanket term covering several modern Latin peoples descending from the Latinised population in Central, Eastern and Southeastern Europe. English variations on the name include: Walla, Vallachians, Walachians, Wlachs, Wallachs, Vlahs, Olahs or Ulahs; Groups that have historically been called Vlachs include: modern-day Romanians or Daco-Romanians, Aromanians or Macedo-Romanians, Morlachs, Megleno-Romanians and Istro-Romanians. Since the creation of the Romanian state, the term in English has mostly been used for those living outside Romania.
Romanians
The Romanians (dated: Rumanians or Roumanians; Romanian: români or -historically, but now a seldom-used regionalism- rumâni; dated exonym: Vlachs) are a nation and ethnic group native to Romania, who speak Romanian; they are the majority inhabitants of Romania.
Dacians
In absence of written historical records, the origins of the Dacians (and Thracians) remain obscure. Evidence of proto-Thracians or Proto-Dacians in the prehistoric period depends on remains of material culture. It is generally proposed that a proto-Dacian or proto-Thracian people developed from a mixture of indigenous peoples and Indo-Europeans from the time of Proto-Indo-European expansion in the Early Bronze Age when the latter, around 1500 BC, conquered the indigenous peoples. We speak of proto-Thracians from which during the Iron Age(about 1000 BC) as Dacians & Thracians begin developing as we cannot identify Thracians during the Bronze age.
Hammer and Lioness, you DO understand the "indigenous peoples" refers to Blacks, and "Indo-Europeans" refers to the Albinos coming from Central Asia - right?
Once you get to Dacians & Thracians, then I can relate.
The Thracians in classical times, were broken up into a large number of groups and tribes, though a number of powerful Thracian states were organized, such as the Odrysian kingdom of Thrace, and the Dacian kingdom of Burebista.
Black king and his White woman - nothing new there. I've tried it, what's the big deal?
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
IronLion - You broached a subject that I never have, that being the condition of the Latins and Hellenes as they ENTERED Southern Europe.
History clearly suggests that they were a "mixed-race" people as they entered. But I have never tried to make that case because it would require artifacts and genetic studies to prove it - both things that the Albinos would never allow to see the light of day.
Plus, it is possible that they spent little time in Eastern Europe - rapidly passing through; and progressed to Southern Europe, unchanged from their original Albino condition.
But the nature of Greek and Roman societies was UNQUESTIONABLY mixed-race. Hammer only shows his ignorance of facts and history when he denies it.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Hammered fled after receiving a few intellectual body blows.
Lioness has gone AWOL!
And where is Jeri the pink gwoat?
Bring me your ignorance to cure!
Lion!
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
^I gave Lioness a tough problem to solve in the Turks thread. She will be back when she finds something - stupid no doubt - to respond with.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
^^LoL!
Those Pink kids are pathetic in their need for a real legacy!
Just keep on teaching. Those with ears will hear.
Lion!
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
So we continue exploring this subject:
The Aboriginal Romas!
Now let us make a serious consideration on this matter: a few people of unknown origin, allegedly Trojans, founded a village in Aetruscan territory, that they called "Roma", and consequently they were known by their neighbours as "Romans". They spoke Latin.
The country where this village was built was inhabited by different peoples of various origins:
in the south there were Italics (a complex of tribes presumably sharing a common background), Greeks, Sea Peoples (Philistines), Siculs, Phoenicians (Canaanites), etc.;
in the middle region where the village of Rome was located, there were Aetruscans, Umbrians, Italics, Celts, etc.; in the north dwelled Venedi, Ligurs, Celts...
These are the settlers that came after the fall of the Roman Empire: Goths, Lumbards, Heruls, Saracens, Normans, Turks, etc. They all are now Italians, a "Latin" people...
One Settler one matchete!
Posted by TruthAndRights (Member # 17346) on :
quote: Black king and his White woman - nothing new there. I've tried it, what's the big deal?
KMRT Really now, lol, NO big surprise there....been sighted you're the kind of 'brotha' to bed up Becky.... and DWBCL: that's just it: there is none- it's like comparing glass ('white' woman) to diamonds (Black woman)
but from reading so many of your other posts, didn't you mean "...and his 'Albino' woman" Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Who are the ancient Romans:
Romans were the descendants of disparate ethnic groups--Latins, Sabines, Etruscans, etc.--who came together in the distant past to forge a single, albeit pluralistic community. This is the story of the origins of the Roman people promoted by later Roman authors, such as Florus and Velleius Paterculus, and often repeated in modern classrooms and history texts. Indeed, Rome in the Republican period is often considered noteworthy, if not praiseworthy, for its capacity to absorb diverse cultural, ethnic, and linguistic communities in Italy. Meanwhile, the Roman aristocracy was constantly evolving, as municipal elite were slowly incorporated and recruited into the ranks of the domi nobiles. In this excellent, thought-provoking book, Gary Farney explores how the issue of ethnic identity crosscut Roman political culture.
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: IronLion - I had to do some reading to see what you were talking about.
Romanians
The Romanians (dated: Rumanians or Roumanians; Romanian: români or -historically, but now a seldom-used regionalism- rumâni; dated exonym: Vlachs) are a nation and ethnic group native to Romania, who speak Romanian; they are the majority inhabitants of Romania.
Mike
I believe the present day Romanians are the the real Latinis. Those ones today are a bunch of Cagotic Slavs, who entered into Europe and swamped the original black Roma citizens of Roman Dacia, Thrace, and Romany. Having no other language except for a fews grunts and groans, they were taught Romani language.
Today they parade themselves like Hammer as the true Romanis.
Lion!
See this citation here:
"the Romanians in Romania are also descendant of the ancient Slavonic tribes, though they do not speak a Slavic language, but a a Romance language, which can be traced back to the Roman colonization of Dacia. The basic vocabulary is in fact of Latin origin.They have dark hair, dark eyes and are quite tall....
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: IronLion - I had to do some reading to see what you were talking about.
Romanians
The Romanians (dated: Rumanians or Roumanians; Romanian: români or -historically, but now a seldom-used regionalism- rumâni; dated exonym: Vlachs) are a nation and ethnic group native to Romania, who speak Romanian; they are the majority inhabitants of Romania.
Mike
I believe the present day Romanians are not the real Latinis.
The present day Romanians are immigrant conquerors.
They are a bunch of Cagotic Slavs, who entered into Europe and swamped the original black Roma citizens of Roman Dacia, Thrace, and Romany at the fall of the Roman Empire.
Having no other language except for a fews grunts and groans, they assimilated and were taught Romani language.
Today they parade themselves like Hammer and other identity challenged Pinkies as the true Romanis..."the great whytes"..LOL!
The Romanians in Romania are the descendants of the ancient Slavonic tribes, though they do not speak a Slavic language, but a Romance language, which can be traced back to the Roman colonization of Dacia. The basic vocabulary is in fact of Latin origin.....
Lion! Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
IronLion - Yes, I know. I was tracing back from the Vlachs. As to the Latinis, I don't get caught up in that, because there is no way to know who the name originally applied to.
It's like the name Greek, where does it come from, and who were the original Greeks?
The White people that we call Greeks, called themselves Hellenes - see what I mean?
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: IronLion - Yes, I know. I was tracing back from the Vlachs. As to the Latinis, I don't get caught up in that, because there is no way to know who the name originally applied to.
It's like the name Greek, where does it come from, and who were the original Greeks?
The White people that we call Greeks, called themselves Hellenes - see what I mean?
I have never seen such a bunch of loons in all my life. Had this site on at the office today and had five people rolling in the floor reading these posts. Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Hammer and Lioness - Children and ignorant adults try to shout down, and make fun of, that which they disagree. People of any worth, attack with counter logic and fact.
Sooo, which are ya gonna be?
Posted by Hammer (Member # 17003) on :
You cannot not counter this crap with logic and facts Mike, get serious. You are so far out in lollipop land there is no place to start a conversation.
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by Hammer: You cannot not counter this crap with logic and facts Mike, get serious. You are so far out in lollipop land there is no place to start a conversation.
Sooo, may I say then, that you haven't got a clue?
Posted by Hammer (Member # 17003) on :
nobody has a clue if they try to wander into your empty head.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by Hammer: nobody has a clue if they try to wander into your empty head.
Hammer-head
You are one dog with a bad case of diahrrea! Put up or SHUT UP! Dont be such a bore!
Bring on some counter arguments..
Lion!
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness: [IMG]blah blah blah[/IMG]
BYTCH!
The Joo who fouchs you wants to do u now!
Go BYTCH, go down on your master,...go on...down on your knees!
Pervert!
Lion!
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Just curious Lioness, how did you get into the gay thing? The thread is on Romans NOT Greeks.
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
why you hate on a sista? I support this powerful thread, Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
Lion, there is no "putting up" with crazy people who sit around and just make up their own goofey history.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Some Roman Coins:
Maximinius
Potrait of Pompey the Great as Janus
Potrait of wooly haired guy called Scipio Africanus who fought Hannibal: He likes to ride Elephants too, just like the other brotha Hannibal!
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Lioness, we don't usually refer to the European Albino females as Sista's.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by Hammer: Lion, there is no "putting up" with crazy people who sit around and just make up their own goofey history.
Hammerheaded
Talk of goofy? Lets talk about the black Roman Patriacian called Gaius Nigrinus! You hear the name...Nigrinus, black family, pure Romans...
GAIUS AVIDUS NIGRINUS
Gaius Avidius Nigrinus (died 118) was a Roman that lived between the 1st and 2nd centuries.
Nigrinus’ paternal and maternal ancestors were Romans of the highest political rank. He was the son of an elder Gaius Avidius Nigrinus by an unnamed mother, his brother was the consul Titus Avidius Quietus and his paternal uncle was the proconsul Tiberius Avidius Quietus. Nigrinus’ family were wealthy, distinguished and well connected politically from Faventia (modern Faenza, Italy) and he was born and raised in Faventia. Nigrinus and his family may have been related to the consul Gaius Petronius Pontius Nigrinus, who had served his consulship at the time that the Roman Emperor Tiberius had died in 37.
His family had strong links to Greece. The father of Nigrinus, had served at an unknown date during the reign of Roman Emperor Domitian (81-96) as Proconsul of Achaea, as well as his paternal uncle. His family was friends of Greek Historian Plutarch and Roman Senator Pliny the Younger. Plutarch dedicated a writing piece to the elder Nigrinus and Quietus entitled ‘On Brotherly Love’.
Nigrinus was a long outstanding friend of the Roman Emperor Trajan and his family. He served as Tribune in 105. Nigrinus served as Legatus of Achaea and probably participated in Trajan’s attempt to recognize and stabilize the administration of the financially troubled province. Nigrinus later became the Roman Governor of Greece.
In 110, Nigrinus served as suffect consul. During the year of his consulship, Trajan sent Nigrinus as a special official to Delphi, Greece as a member of an advisory council to assist the politician, later Greek historian Arrian in settling boundary disputes. This event is known in Delphi, as there are honorific inscriptions dedicated to Nigrinus in Greek and Latin in Delphi recording his tour of duty in Greece.
Nigrinus was a trusted lieutenant to Trajan. Trajan appointed him as a Roman Governor of the Dacia. Nigrinus commanded considerable political respect, was a leading military general and could have been seen as a probable heir of Trajan.
In 117, Trajan had died and was succeeded by his paternal second cousin Hadrian. In the summer of 118 Nigrinus, was one of four senators to be executed from orders from the Roman Senate because he was involved in a plot to overthrow Hadrian. Nigrinus was dismissed at Faventia. He was probably involved in the plot because of his differing position on Hadrian’s imperial policy and due to his long friendship, high standing with Trajan, Hadrian could have viewed Nigrinus as a potential threat as a heir as ruling emperor.
Nigrinus in his life married an unattested Roman noble woman called Ignota Plautia. He had at least one known child a daughter called Avidia Plautia. Plautia would marry Hadrian’s first adopted heir Lucius Aelius Verus Caesar. Nigrinus would become the maternal grandfather of the Roman Emperor Lucius Verus, prince Gaius Avidius Ceionius Commodus, princesses Ceionia Fabia and Ceionia Plautia
Sources A dictionary of the Roman Empire By Matthew Bunson – 1995 Plutarch's Sertorius: A Historical Commentary. C. Konrad Chapel Hill: University of North Carolina Press, 1994 The Cambridge ancient history, Volume 11 By Alan K. Bowman, Peter Garnsey, Dominic Rathbone Limited preview - Edition: 2 - Item notes: v. 11 – 2000 Marcus Aurelius, by Anthony Richard Birley, Routledge, 2000 The Roman Government of Britain, Anthony Richard Birley 2005
^Perhaps you would care to ask him, what the proper term of endearment is.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Nigrita (-ae, masc.)[1] homo est cuius cutis color aquilus est. Sensu strictissimo, nigrita nigrois est, itaque huius phyles homines originaliter ex Africa sunt sed propter servitudinem et emigrationem per alias continentes, praesertim per Americam, se propagavere.
Correctae igitur definitioni quoque aliae physicae qualitates includendae essent velut capilli genus. Alii cutis aquillimae homines velut Melanesii et Dravĭdae etiam "nigritae" denominarentur.
In Civitatibus Foederatis Nigritae Aframericani nuncupari solent.
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: Nigrita (-ae, masc.)[1] homo est cuius cutis color aquilus est. Sensu strictissimo, nigrita nigrois est, itaque huius phyles homines originaliter ex Africa sunt sed propter servitudinem et emigrationem per alias continentes, praesertim per Americam, se propagavere.
Correctae igitur definitioni quoque aliae physicae qualitates includendae essent velut capilli genus. Alii cutis aquillimae homines velut Melanesii et Dravĭdae etiam "nigritae" denominarentur.
In Civitatibus Foederatis Nigritae Aframericani nuncupari solent.
Emperor Macrinus the Black African Roman Emperor from North Africa
Born in Caesarea (modern Cherchell, Algeria) in the Roman province of Mauretania to an equestrian family, Macrinus received an education which allowed him to ascend to the Roman political class. Over the years he earned a reputation as a skilled lawyer. ...
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: Karakala The Black Emperor of Rome!
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: Nigrita (-ae, masc.)[1] homo est cuius cutis color aquilus est. Sensu strictissimo, nigrita nigrois est, itaque huius phyles homines originaliter ex Africa sunt sed propter servitudinem et emigrationem per alias continentes, praesertim per Americam, se propagavere.
Correctae igitur definitioni quoque aliae physicae qualitates includendae essent velut capilli genus. Alii cutis aquillimae homines velut Melanesii et Dravĭdae etiam "nigritae" denominarentur.
In Civitatibus Foederatis Nigritae Aframericani nuncupari solent.
Hammered has been hammered into the earth with logical and sound response. His jabberings are done!
Lioness has gone AWOL!
And Jari? Oooh Tom and Jerri, I had made this thread for you.
You were wise to have kept away, otherwise you would have been slaughtered outright with wisdom!
Who else want an intellectual demolition?
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
The Genetics of it all:
Immunogenetics. 2004 Jan;55(10):674-81. Epub 2003 Dec 2.
Gm and Km immunoglobulin allotypes in Sicily.
Cerutti N, Dugoujon JM, Guitard E, Rabino Massa E.
Department of Animal and Human Biology, University of Turin, Via Accademia Albertina 17, 10123, Turin, Italy.
The presence of a typical African marker (haplotype Gm 5*;1,17;…), especially in the genetic structure of Alia and Palermo, highlights the possibility of past contacts with peoples from Africa. [...] Therefore, the introduction of an African polymorphism could have been due to the Phoenician colonization or to the more recent Arab conquest of the territory (9th century A.D.).
A study (Semino et al. 1989) carried out with restriction enzymes on mtDNA indicated the presence of African haplotypes (4.4%) in a sample of Sicilians.
The authors hypothesized an input of genes from Africa to Sicily (estimated at about 10%) brought by Phoenician migrations. Posted by Hammer (Member # 17003) on :
This is a worthless study for historical purposes. "Could have" "or to..." These genetic studies are worthless without historical context and you guys are too uneducated to understand that.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Journal of Immunogenetics!
Cite something to counter not your ignorant thoughts...
Posted by Hammer (Member # 17003) on :
No goofball, you just throw this stuff up against the wall and hope it sticks. The study you posted had not a drop of historical meaning nor did it even assert that it did. In fact nut it even stated it did not really understand the reasons. This is why your brains have turned into mush. You read this stuff and then invent your own conclusions.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
SICULI: "Ancient Sicilian tribe that occupied the eastern part of Sicily. Old tales related that the Siculi once lived in central Italy but were driven out and finally crossed to Sicily, leaving remnants behind.... They are hard to identify archaeologically, although some words of their Indo-European language are known."
SICANI: "According to ancient Greek writers, the aboriginal inhabitants of western Sicily, as opposed to the Siculi of eastern Sicily. Archaeologically there is no substantial difference between Sicani and Siculi (Sicels) in historical times; but ancient authorities believed the Sicani to be Iberians from Spain...." Posted by Wally (Member # 2936) on :
Move this to Ancient Egypt
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: SICULI: "Ancient Sicilian tribe that occupied the eastern part of Sicily. Old tales related that the Siculi once lived in central Italy but were driven out and finally crossed to Sicily, leaving remnants behind.... They are hard to identify archaeologically, although some words of their Indo-European language are known."
SICANI: "According to ancient Greek writers, the aboriginal inhabitants of western Sicily, as opposed to the Siculi of eastern Sicily. Archaeologically there is no substantial difference between Sicani and Siculi (Sicels) in historical times; but ancient authorities believed the Sicani to be Iberians from Spain...."
"...but Grand Master tell me, who are the Iberians?"
THE IBERIANS
Historians have suggested that they may have originated in North Africa. This portion of the theory is supported by an observation of C. Michael Hogan who points out similarities between Chalcolithic artefacts in Iberia with Neolithic pottery in parts of Morocco.
The Iberians would have initially settled along the eastern coast of Spain, and then possibly spread throughout the rest of the Iberian Peninsula....
Rome was actually a colony of the African Carthegenians.
It rebelled and this led to the Punic Wars.
With the unexpected defeat of Glorious Kart Hadarst by upstart Rome, the Roman Empire began.
Being a colony of the African Carthegenians, who then lived there? Africans, like Scipio Africanus who fought off the Mother country Carthage and Hannibal.
Posted by The Explorer (Member # 14778) on :
Thinking along hammered's lines: Rome was created by African farmers.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
By the time the Greeks placed their own colonies in western Sicily, the Carthaginians had already occupied the western end of the island, and for centuries the two sides struggled indecisively to seize control of the whole island. In 264, the Romans began a major war with the Carthaginians in Sicily (the First Punic War, 264-242), eventually wrestling away Sicily, Corsica and Sardinia from the Carthaginians. During the Second Punic War (218-202), the Carthaginian general Hannibal inflicted major defeats on the Romans, who eventually won the day, restricting the Carthaginians to their own immediate territory in Africa." See http://www.ualberta.ca/~csmackay/CLASS_110/Hittites.html
quote:Originally posted by The Explorer: Thinking along hammered's lines: Rome was created by African farmers.
Darn right!
Scozzari et al. (2001) identify a Y-chromosome mutation that "diverged from the ancestor HG25.1 somewhere in North Africa a few thousand years ago", and is thus indicative of recent gene flow from North African males. The authors report that the marker "HG25.2 was seen at generally low frequencies in Spain, France, and Italy"...
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
Iron, when did Rome turn honkey?
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
AND MOOR ROMAN GENES
Cruciani et al. (2004) confirm the above, using the frequencies of 'Berber' mutations (now labeled E-M81 and E-M78β) in large sample populations to estimate that North African paternal admixture within the past 5000 years amounts to 1.5% in Northern Italians, 2.2% in Central Italians, 0% in Southern Italians, 1.4% in Sardinians and 1.4% in Sicilians...
See Cruciani et al. (2004) Phylogeographic analysis of haplogroup E3b (E-M215) Y chromosomes reveals multiple migratory events within and out of Africa. Am J Hum Genet; 74
Posted by Hammer (Member # 17003) on :
Lion, You are full of baloney. Rome was never a colony of Carthage, nor was Carthage ever african. You guys are too old and stupid to ever learn even 10th grade history. You quote these genetic studies without a clue of how to use them or even if they can be used at all. Maybe it is best that you guys are pinned up together here on egyptsearch.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
AND YET MOOR ROMAN GENES....
Blood group phenotypes and the origin of sickle cell hemoglobin in Sicilians.
Sandler SG, Schiliro G, Russo A, Musumeci S, Rachmilewitz EA.
As an approach to investigating the origin of sickle cell hemoglobin (hemoglobin S) in white persons of Sicilian ancestry, two groups of native Sicilians were tested for blood group evidence of African admixture. Among 100 unrelated Sicilians, the phenotypes cDe(Rho) and Fy(a-b-), and the antigens V(hrv) and Jsa, which are considered to be African genetic markers, were detected in 12 individuals. Among 64 individuals from 21 families with at least one known hemoglobin S carrier, African blood group markers were detected in 7 (11%). These findings indicate that hemoglobin S is only one of multiple African genes present in contemporary Sicilian populations. The occurrence of hemoglobin S in white persons of Sicilian ancestry is considered to be a manifestation of the continuing dissemination of the original African mutation.
Posted by Hammer (Member # 17003) on :
worthless for historical use.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by Hammer: Lion, You are full of baloney. Rome was never a colony of Carthage, nor was Carthage ever african. You guys are too old and stupid to ever learn even 10th grade history. You quote these genetic studies without a clue of how to use them or even if they can be used at all. Maybe it is best that you guys are pinned up together here on egyptsearch.
PUT UP OR SHUT THE FVCK UP!
JEEEZEE, STOP WHINING LIKE A BITCH!
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: SICULI: "Ancient Sicilian tribe that occupied the eastern part of Sicily. Old tales related that the Siculi once lived in central Italy but were driven out and finally crossed to Sicily, leaving remnants behind.... They are hard to identify archaeologically, although some words of their Indo-European language are known."
SICANI: "According to ancient Greek writers, the aboriginal inhabitants of western Sicily, as opposed to the Siculi of eastern Sicily. Archaeologically there is no substantial difference between Sicani and Siculi (Sicels) in historical times; but ancient authorities believed the Sicani to be Iberians from Spain...."
"...but Grand Master tell me, who are the Iberians?"
THE IBERIANS
Historians have suggested that they may have originated in North Africa. This portion of the theory is supported by an observation of C. Michael Hogan who points out similarities between Chalcolithic artefacts in Iberia with Neolithic pottery in parts of Morocco.
The Iberians would have initially settled along the eastern coast of Spain, and then possibly spread throughout the rest of the Iberian Peninsula....
Iberian pottery has been found in France, Italy, and North Africa. The Iberians were placed under Carthaginian rule for a short time between the First and Second Punic Wars. They supplied troops to Hannibal's army.
Posted by Hammer (Member # 17003) on :
and this means what?
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness: Iron, when did Rome turn honkey?
Lioness, Rome never turned honkey. Rome continued to fight barbarian invasion and corruption until its last Emperor Romulus Agustus.
The job of Rome was to hold off the barbarians from invading the outside world.
When Rome fell, the barbarians broke loose of their bounds. Like hounds and demons of hell they spread over the earth bringing with them death, disease, genocide, global pollution, peadophilia, and more mental diseases...
It was only following the barbarian destruction of Rome that pink-whites came into their own. It was only the fall of your prison guard Rome that caused genocide in America, Africa, China, India,...
When Rome was on its feet, barbarians were kept canned deep in the caucasus. No chance to make trouble.
And that is where I end my exposition.....
Those with ears may hear, those with eyes let them see, those prepared for destruction, shall surely reach their destination.
Good night Lioness...
Good night to the Jooos that fouch u Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by Hammer: and this means what?
...that your pink brain needs a fix of meth! Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness: Iron, when did Rome turn honkey?
Lioness, Rome never turned honkey. Rome continued to fight barbarian invasion and corruption until its last Emperor Romulus Agustus.
The job of Rome was to hold off the barbarians from invading the outside world.
When Rome fell, the barbarians broke loose of their bounds. Like hounds and demons of hell they spread over the earth bringing with them death, disease, genocide, global pollution, peadophilia, and more mental diseases...
It was only following the barbarian destruction of Rome that pink-whites came into their own. It was only the fall of your prison guard Rome that caused genocide in America, Africa, China, India,...
When Rome was on its feet, barbarians were keep canned deep in the caucasus. No chance to make trouble.
And that is where I end my exposition.....
Those with ears may hear, those with eyes let them see, those prepared for destruction, shall surely reach their destination.
Good night Lioness...
Good night to the Jooos that fouch u
So are you saying that the following Romans were black Africans? I'm not sure what you're saying. If not black Africans or black people how would you categorize them?
Dunce! You never pay attention in class.
I will recap!
The no go area of popular fictionalized white bwoy history is that "the Aryans built Rome".
How true is this?
No it is a damned lie! The truth was that Rome was a multi-ethnic Empire. Any true scholar with the slightest mastery of classics will attest to this.
Rome as well as the entire southern and central and western Europe was built by aboriginal black Europeans sometimes called the mysterious Celts, NIGRI-LATINIS, the IBERIANS or the Maurs.
Sometimes authors attribute the origin of Rome to Etruscans, or to Greeks or to Canaanites. It is generally acknowledged that those three powers were themselves basically multi-ethnic, and also that the Canaanites were singularly black and African in origin.
Later we get an influx of barbarians nomads, who were assimilated and romanized.
Then slaves from the Slavic and Germanic tribes were captured from Northern Europe and used on Roman plantations in Central Europe.
And then one must not forget that the cultural founts of Rome was not anywhere on the European mainland but in North Africa, with Egypt and the province of Africa being the most sophisticated, and civilized in arts, science and culture. The cultural capital of the Roman Empire was Alexandria in Egypt.
All the inhabitants of the Roman provinces of Africa could easily attain to Roman citizenship and even aspire to become Emperors of Rome.
Not so for today's so-called white people who were actually called barbarians and hated by the Roman state and Empire. They were the threats of the day, the potential carries of contagions mental and spiritual, eroders of morality. Besides the oracles of Delphi had forcasted that barbarians whites would eventually overun the emipre.
They eventually did. Bursting the barriers of imperial Rome which had contained them in Central Europe, the barbarians gothic an slavic hordes swamped Rome, southern and central Europe, western Europe as well, bursted into Africa, and then onwards to the Americas and Australia. Like demons released from hell.
Those Barbarians are the direct ancestors of todays so-called Italians, French, Germans, English, Beligia, Holland, Sweden, Russia, and the whole of the so-called white races of todays Europa.
And those gothic descendants have spent a thousand years, re-writing history, destroying monuments, burning books and libraries, in an attempt to hide the truth about themselves, and to usurp the majesty and excellence of the great black civilizations. They would trick the black children (the real owners of this world) into a life of complancency and surbodination, wherein they are unable to assert their legitimacy.
Which is why they have invested so much energy in re-writing and retelling the story of the Roman Empire and its fall, at the hands of the barbarians so-called whites.
Posted by Hammer (Member # 17003) on :
These guys are full of double speak. They say "multi racial empire" implying the romans were multi racial. Truth is the Romans were white caucasian Europeans who RAN a multi racial empire.
They are a laughing stock in all university history departments.
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
Rome as well as the entire southern and central and western Europe was built by aboriginal black Europeans sometimes called the mysterious Celts, NIGRI-LATINIS, the IBERIANS or the Maurs.
Iron, are you saying the below people were black?
If so please post some photos of modern people who think are similar to them,
thank you
Julius Caesar
Augustus
Claudius
vespasian
Tiberius
Trajan
Posted by Hammer (Member # 17003) on :
Lion is a liar. He knows they were not black or even part black.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
Rome as well as the entire southern and central and western Europe was built by aboriginal black Europeans sometimes called the mysterious Celts, NIGRI-LATINIS, the IBERIANS or the Maurs.
Iron, are you saying the below people were black?
If so please post some photos of modern people who think are similar to them,
thank you
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
Later we get an influx of barbarians nomads, who were assimilated and romanized.
Then slaves from the Slavic and Germanic tribes were captured from Northern Europe and used on Roman plantations in Central Europe.
Posted by Hammer (Member # 17003) on :
Notice these loons never mention the Brits who were Roman citizens and part of the empire and lived in a Romanized British society for centuries.
Posted by The Explorer (Member # 14778) on :
Indeed, Rome was a true "melting pot".
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
^^What a dunce?
The Brits are Angulus, Germanic invaders and Jutes ho came to England in 500 Ad, as well as Normans who came in 1033 AD.
Bwoi, you dont know your history and you pretend and play a history professor.
Fake professor!
Posted by Hammer (Member # 17003) on :
The Brits were Celts you idiot.
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
Was Roman Empire White?
Julius Caesar
Augustus
Claudius
vespasian
Tiberius
Trajan [/QB][/QUOTE]
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
Rome as well as the entire southern and central and western Europe was built by aboriginal black Europeans sometimes called the mysterious Celts, NIGRI-LATINIS, the IBERIANS or the Maurs.
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
Later we get an influx of barbarians nomads, who were assimilated and romanized.
Then slaves from the Slavic and Germanic tribes were captured from Northern Europe and used on Roman plantations in Central Europe.
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: Rome continued to fight barbarian invasion and corruption until its last Emperor Romulus Agustus.
So Iron, are the above Emperors white or black?
Also please post some photos of modern people who you think they look similar to, thank you
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
Rome as well as the entire southern and central and western Europe was built by aboriginal black Europeans sometimes called the mysterious Celts, NIGRI-LATINIS, the IBERIANS or the Maurs.
Iron, are you saying the below people were black?
If so please post some photos of modern people who think are similar to them,
thank you
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
Later we get an influx of barbarians nomads, who were assimilated and romanized.
Then slaves from the Slavic and Germanic tribes were captured from Northern Europe and used on Roman plantations in Central Europe.
Black Roman Saint Theordore Stratelate
Another potrakit of Theordore Stratelate
The same Roman Black Theordore Stratelate now painted with a wig
Saint Dionysus of Roman era Alexandria
Saint Peter of Roman era Alexanderia Posted by Hammer (Member # 17003) on :
what a liar obviously none of those guys is black.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by Hammer: Lion is a liar. He knows they were not black or even part black.
Saint Peter Basilica Rome Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by Hammer: what a liar obviously none of those guys is black.
No Pink. We are the first and original whites and you have always been the red pink devils.
Your acestors stole the name white from us after you stole Europe.
In old and middle English, the word Bleac mean the colour white. Same roots as blanch, bleach, bleak, black.
The Africans are the original nobility of Europe, the first Kings, and by right of law the WHITES.
You are just one fvcked up pale pink devil playing semantic games...
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
Was Roman Empire White?
Julius Caesar
Augustus
Claudius
vespasian
Tiberius
Trajan [/QB][/QUOTE]
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
Rome as well as the entire southern and central and western Europe was built by aboriginal black Europeans sometimes called the mysterious Celts, NIGRI-LATINIS, the IBERIANS or the Maurs.
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
Later we get an influx of barbarians nomads, who were assimilated and romanized.
Then slaves from the Slavic and Germanic tribes were captured from Northern Europe and used on Roman plantations in Central Europe.
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: Rome continued to fight barbarian invasion and corruption until its last Emperor Romulus Augustus.
Iron, I see what you are saying about Saint Dionysus, Saint Theordore Stratelate and Saint Peter.
but were the above Emperors white or black?
It's a fair question. Your thread is titled "was the Roman Empire white" and I'm asking you about these Emperors above.
Also please post some photos of modern people who you think they look similar to, thank you
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness:
quote: [b]
Iron, I see what you are saying about Saint Dionysus, Saint Theordore Stratelate and Saint Peter.
blah blah blah....
It is better when you see it yourself.
Now go fuch the Jew that does you.
Goodnight Sweetheart... Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Thracian Head
Roman Britain Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness:
quote: [b]
Iron, I see what you are saying about Saint Dionysus, Saint Theordore Stratelate and Saint Peter.
blah blah blah....
It is better when you see it yourself.
Now go fuch the Jew that does you.
Goodnight Sweetheart...
Well, I'll have to see the original Saint Dionysus, Saint Theordore Stratelate and Saint Peter.
but were the Emperors I posted above white or black? I was wondering since it seems to relate to the thread topic.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
^^Honey
I have taught in many Universities. I do not do picture spamming.
If you want to engage me intellectually, then make your points intelligible and backed up with sources.
Lion!
Posted by Just call me Jari (Member # 14451) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
If you want to engage me intellectually, then make your points intelligible and backed up with sources.
Descriptions of Roman Emperors..
Nero-He was about the average height, his body marked with spots and malodorous, his hair light blond, his features regular rather than attractive, his eyes blue and somewhat weak, his neck over thick, his belly prominent, and his legs very slender.
He had clear, bright eyes, in which he liked to have it thought that there was a kind of divine power, and it greatly pleased him, whenever he looked keenly at anyone, if he let his face fall as if before the radiance of the sun; but in his old age he could not see very well with his left eye. His teeth were wide apart, small, and ill-kept; his hair was slightly curly and inclining to golden; his eyebrows met. His ears were of moderate size, and his nose projected a little at the top and then bent slightly inward.110 His complexion was between dark and fair.
^After a bad beatdown like this you just flip and then bring on your Ms Jekyl and Hyde routine!
I blame that Joos. if he does his job properly you would not be here everyday bitching and bitching and trolling...
Lion!
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
what you talkin about I seen niggas like this in Uganda
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Roman remains are ‘elite’ African
Archaeologists have revealed the remains of what they say was a “high status” woman of African origin who lived in York during Roman times.
...
Remains of the Ivory Bangle Lady, as she has been named, were studied in Reading using forensic techniques.
She was first discovered in the Bootham area of York in August 1901.
Her remains were in a stone coffin near Sycamore Terrace in the city.
Her grave dates back to the second half of the 4th Century. She was buried with items including jet and elephant ivory bracelets, earrings, beads and a blue glass jug.
She also had a rectangular piece of bone, which is thought to have originally been mounted in a wooden box, which was carved to read, “Hail, sister, may you live in God’.
The grave goods and skeletal remains of the Ivory Bangle Lady were studied by the archaeology department of the University of Reading.
Despite the millenia of iniquitous falsifications the truth still lives.
That Roman Empire was a multi-ethnic Empire, basically Northern African in outlook, even though admitting a few pale skin barbarian components.
The bulk of the Roman population was multi-ethnic.
The foundation of this multi-ethnicity began with the first black settlers of Rome and indeed the entire Europe...the Maurisians, the Capsians, the Iberians, the Nigri latinis and the black Celts.
Layers of immigrants then came into Europe and Rome. The Cartheginian colonizers, the Greeks, the nomadic barbarian Scythians, and the pale skin parthians and finally the destructive Vandals.
Yet Rome always was a fundamentally brown black society more akin to the present day Morrocco than to Sweden.
The raison d'etre of Rome was to keep out the massive of the barbarian population of Central Asia from reaching European mainland.
That it finally failed in this objective is evident today in the false strutting of the descendants of the Goths and the former Slavs who now claim to be more Romas than the true Romas.
But what goes around will come around.
All great kingdoms will fall, even when they are standing tall!
Lion!
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by Just call me Jari: Egyptian Roman Mummy Portraits..
^^^^ Iron Lion's ancient Roman-Rasta ancestor...LMAO
Pathetic little pink-dicked Albino boy, Why didn't you show the rest?
Posted by anguishofbeing (Member # 16736) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Pathetic little pink-dicked Albino boy
Perverted Jew Mike and his fixation with "little dicks". lol
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
anguish, like you, Jari is a lying little piece of Albino sh1t. Quite undeserving of respect.
Posted by Just call me Jari (Member # 14451) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111:
quote:Originally posted by Just call me Jari: Egyptian Roman Mummy Portraits..
^^^^ Iron Lion's ancient Roman-Rasta ancestor...LMAO
Pathetic little pink-dicked Albino boy, Why didn't you show the rest?
^^^^ and WTF is that supposed to prove that the Romans "Muurs"(WTF) were Arab looking..LMAO, Oh Wait let me guess they are Black Equitorial Africans like the Minoans right..
Or let me guess..Its Symbolic..LMAO
BTW, This is what you wrote on your own Bullsh@t site..
This culture will later be absorbed by the next great White European civilization, The Romans.
So shut the **** up, you are on my side here dumbass, you claim Rome was White until Iron Lion's Infority complex spammed one pic of a Moorish Slave Army..LOL.
Go back to the basement.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: anguish, like you, Jari is a lying little piece of Albino sh1t. Quite undeserving of respect.
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: Karakala The Black Emperor of Rome!
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KARAKALA aka Caracalla aka Lucius Septimius Bassianus elder son of Septimius Severus and Julia Domna
KARAKALA aka Caracalla ( a real asshole, look into it)
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FAMILY OF KARAKALA
(KARAKALA aka Caracalla aka Lucius Septimius Bassianus)
_______________________________
FATHER Septimius Severus or Severus, was Roman Emperor from 193 to 211. He was of Italian Roman ancestry on his mother's side and of Punic or Libyan-Punic ancestry on his father's.
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MOTHER Julia Domna, wife of Septimius Severuswas was a Syrian Arab.
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BROTHER
Publius Septimius Geta younger son of Septimius Severus and Julia Domna. Killed by his older brother KARAKALA (Caracalla)
Publius Septimius Geta___________________________________________as a boy ca. 200 CE
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
I don't know if Rome was as multi-ethnic as New York. But clearly it was ruled by Caucasians. They were miltarisitic, known for their cruelty, brutality, poor treatment of slaves, religious persecution and decadence.
Yet in his self hating wannabeism Ironlion calls this
"basically Northern African in outlook"
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
So so pathetic and ignorant.
Yo pink girl, did you ever hear that Roman men and women used to wear wigs made from blond hair of the Goths and dark hair of the Indias?
You prolly never heard about Julia Domna the black Syrian wife of Septimus Severus who loved wearing straight wigs?
Most of those straight hair statutes you see were sporting wigs. Because the Romans, both men and women were notorious for wearing wigs.
You know what else the Romans invented?
BLEACHING CREAM! For themselves to use!
I will help you again dummy:
Severan dynasty and fake Wigs
Julia Domna, wife of Septimus Severus, had a particularly notable hairstyle. She wore a heavy, globular wig with simple finger-sized waves with a simple center parting. Julia Domna was from Syria, and it has been suggested that her style was indicative of her foreign origi
Romans and Straight Hair Wigs
Due to the nature of hair and the relatively wet climate in the upper reaches of the Empire, there are very few examples of wigs that survive to this day. We do know that women wore wigs whether they were bald or not. So too did men, Emperor Otho wore a wig, as did Domitian.[10] Wigs allowed women to better achieve the kind of 'tall' styles that particularly punctuated the Flavian and Trajanic eras (e.g. the periods of 69-96 and 98-117 CE). In fact, so tall were these hairstyles, that ancient writer Juvenal likens them to multi-storey buildings.
So important is the business of beautification; so numerous are the tiers and storeys piled one upon another on her head! —Juvenal, Satires[11] Wigs were made from human hair; blonde hair from Germany and black from India were particularly prized, especially if the hair came from the head of a person from a conquered civilisation[12]. In the cases where wigs were used to hide baldness, a natural look was preferred supposedly using a wig with a hair colour similar to the user's original.
But in instances where a wig was worn for the purpose of showing off, naturalism did not play much of a part.
In fact, obviously fake wigs were preferred, sometimes intertwined with two contrasting hair colours.
Detachable Bust Wigs:
Busts themselves could have detachable wigs. There have been many suggestions as to why some busts have been created with detachable wigs and some without. Perhaps the main reason was to keep the bust looking up-to-date. It would have been too expensive to commission a new bust every time hair fashion changed, so a mix-and-match bust would have been preferable for women with less money.
Just ignore this child Lioness. Neither Rome or Greece was multi ethnic. He does not read the great historians of our time by his own admission and thus has no clue.
Posted by Just call me Jari (Member # 14451) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness: I don't know if Rome was as multi-ethnic as New York. But clearly it was ruled by Caucasians. They were miltarisitic, known for their cruelty, brutality, poor treatment of slaves, religious persecution and decadence.
Yet in his self hating wannabeism Ironlion calls this
"basically Northern African in outlook"
Yes Rome Was Multi-Ethnic and ruled by Caucasians who were much more whiter than the current Italians of Today. The Early Romans Emperors were light haired and light eyed Caucasians like the Northern Europeans.
They were also known for their harsh treatment of Km.t, the destruction of the African Empire of Carthage and the destruction of the Jewish Temple..etc. They would force their servile populations to worship them as God..LMAO so this self hating Iron Lion and Mike111's ancestors the Moors worshipped a Blond or Light haired Roman Emperor now this clown want to claim they were "Muurs" becase of one a freeze of a Moorish slave Army.
Let the lies stop..
Posted by Hammer (Member # 17003) on :
The problem with the afroloons on the board is the they really want to built a position that takes black people out of the main stream of world history. They seek to build an alternative history. The problem with that is that not only is it dishonest, it can never work. There is never going to be a time when western civilization is seen as anything but creation instituted and run by Euro-American white people. Since WW II other peoples and nationalties have joined that system and made great progress. The fanatic Muslims are not attacking black africa or Asia, they are attacking western civilization because they understand that is where the power is. I have said before here that there is no future for blacks 'as a race.' There is a 'great' future for blacks and others as individuals.
Posted by Just call me Jari (Member # 14451) on :
Yes, the afroloons want to steal White Euro culture like the Greeks, Romans, British Royals etc but in the same breath bitch about how the Evil Euros killed the Indians and enslaved and colonized Africa.
Truth be told they don't care about Africans, they are inferiority complex driven and angry that the white man created such a great Civilization so they steal it, pretend blacks created it etc.
^^^^ White Roman Civilization...
^^^^ Muurish Civilization...
Inferority complex driven..
Also I find it funny how the Romans are supposed to be black Africans, but we have the Pantheon in Paris, Palladian Motif in England, a Roman Bath in Britian, Baroque in Austria, Romanesque in France, Germany, and The British Isles..
Poor Uneducated Self Hating Negros don't realize how European and Anti-African Rome is and was..LOL
Posted by Hammer (Member # 17003) on :
We have more black millionaires and black leaders in all fields than ever in history. When Texas elects a black Republican in what once was the most racist part of the state one can see the tremendous change. All of these people have joined western civilization. they could have never done anything in opposition to it.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Jari quote: Also I find it funny how the Romans are supposed to be black Africans, but we have the Pantheon in Paris, Palladian Motif in England, a Roman Bath in Britian, Baroque in Austria, Romanesque in France, Germany, and The British Isles..
Poor Uneducated Self Hating Negros don't realize how European and Anti-African Rome is and was..LOL
He, he, But Jari - didn't you tell us that YOU were Black? Posted by Just call me Jari (Member # 14451) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Jari quote: Also I find it funny how the Romans are supposed to be black Africans, but we have the Pantheon in Paris, Palladian Motif in England, a Roman Bath in Britian, Baroque in Austria, Romanesque in France, Germany, and The British Isles..
Poor Uneducated Self Hating Negros don't realize how European and Anti-African Rome is and was..LOL
He, he, But Jari - didn't you tell us that YOU were Black?
Mike111 I am black but unlike you Im not infority complex driven and I am Educated, esp. in terms of Reading Comprehension..
Uses for We..
1. Used by the speaker or writer to indicate the speaker or writer along with another or others as the subject: We made it to the lecture hall on time. We are planning a trip to Arizona this winter. 2. Used to refer to people in general, including the speaker or writer: "How can we enter the professions and yet remain civilized human beings?" (Virginia Woolf). 3. Used instead of I, especially by a writer wishing to reduce or avoid a subjective tone. 4. Used instead of I, especially by an editorialist, in expressing the opinion or point of view of a publication's management. 5. Used instead of I by a sovereign in formal address to refer to himself or herself. 6. Used instead of you in direct address, especially to imply a patronizing camaraderie with the addressee: How are we feeling today?
Get an Education and keep out of the Basement..
Posted by Just call me Jari (Member # 14451) on :
quote:Originally posted by Hammer: We have more black millionaires and black leaders in all fields than ever in history. When Texas elects a black Republican in what once was the most racist part of the state one can see the tremendous change. All of these people have joined western civilization. they could have never done anything in opposition to it.
Next to Egypt and Ethiopia, African American culture is one of the Greatest cultures of Black people.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Jari quote: Also I find it funny how the Romans are supposed to be black Africans, but we have the Pantheon in Paris, Palladian Motif in England, a Roman Bath in Britian, Baroque in Austria, Romanesque in France, Germany, and The British Isles..
Poor Uneducated Self Hating Negros don't realize how European and Anti-African Rome is and was..LOL
He, he, But Jari - didn't you tell us that YOU were Black?
Mieky I did not miss that too!
The young gwoat just destroyed himself.
Claiming to be black when you are pink is the lowest form of inferiority complex.
You see, when you burst their Roman fantasy bubble, the pinks lose it completely. Because that is their last false prop.
Lion! Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by Just call me Jari: ..Muurish Civilization...
Inferority complex driven..
bleat..bleat .. baaaa....
Poor Uneducated Self Hating Negros don't realize how European and Anti-African Rome is and was..LOL
Jari the pink-ass gwoat meat
Claiming to be black when you are a pinkass is the worst form of inferiority complex.
Goshhh, you are one sickly gwoat! Gi'wey!
Sicko...
Lion!
Posted by Just call me Jari (Member # 14451) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Jari quote: Also I find it funny how the Romans are supposed to be black Africans, but we have the Pantheon in Paris, Palladian Motif in England, a Roman Bath in Britian, Baroque in Austria, Romanesque in France, Germany, and The British Isles..
Poor Uneducated Self Hating Negros don't realize how European and Anti-African Rome is and was..LOL
He, he, But Jari - didn't you tell us that YOU were Black?
Mieky I did not miss that too!
The young gwoat just destroyed himself.
Claiming to be black when you are pink is the lowest form of inferiority complex.
You see, when you burst their Roman fantasy bubble, the pinks lose it completely. Because that is their last false prop.
Lion!
LMAO, Dumb ass Negro..
we [wiː] pron (subjective) 1. refers to the speaker or writer and another person or other people we should go now 2. refers to all people or people in general the planet on which we live 3. a. a formal word for I1 used by editors or other writers, and formerly by monarchs b. (as noun) he uses the royal we in his pompous moods 4. Informal used instead of you with a tone of persuasiveness, condescension, or sarcasm how are we today?
Learn Reading Comprehension and basic Grammar structure, dumb ass...Stop thinking in one dimension..
I used we informally to prove a point, just as I sue we to say "We have no Egyptian culture on Non African Soil"..am I saying Im Egyptian Dumbass?? NO.
but if thats all you have go ahead take one little point on all the beatdowns I have personally given you and Mike.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by Just call me Jari:
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Jari quote: Also I find it funny how the Romans are supposed to be black Africans, but we have the Pantheon in Paris, Palladian Motif in England, a Roman Bath in Britian, Baroque in Austria, Romanesque in France, Germany, and The British Isles..
Poor Uneducated Self Hating Negros don't realize how European and Anti-African Rome is and was..LOL
He, he, But Jari - didn't you tell us that YOU were Black?
Mike111 I am black but unlike you Im not infority complex driven and I am Educated, esp. in terms of Reading Comprehension..
[i]1. ba..ba..ba......
Sick pink arse
You are a pink arse gwoat meat pretending since 2006!
Now you have been outed. That is the kind of beat-down I love to give you pink devils!
LoL! Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by Just call me Jari:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness: I don't know if Rome was as multi-ethnic as New York. But clearly it was ruled by Caucasians. They were miltarisitic, known for their cruelty, brutality, poor treatment of slaves, religious persecution and decadence.
Yet in his self hating wannabeism Ironlion calls this
"basically Northern African in outlook"
Yes Rome Was Multi-Ethnic Blah blah blah...[/IMG]
Let the lies stop..
I beat them down into complete confusion. They are fighting themselves now... One says no ethinc, the other says multi-ethnic and the other pink cries all lies!
Jeri the pink gwoat, what does multi-ethnic mean? Who are those multi-ethnics? What role did they play in Roman?
Posted by Just call me Jari (Member # 14451) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Jari quote: Also I find it funny how the Romans are supposed to be black Africans, but we have the Pantheon in Paris, Palladian Motif in England, a Roman Bath in Britian, Baroque in Austria, Romanesque in France, Germany, and The British Isles..
Poor Uneducated Self Hating Negros don't realize how European and Anti-African Rome is and was..LOL
He, he, But Jari - didn't you tell us that YOU were Black?
Mieky I did not miss that too!
The young gwoat just destroyed himself.
Claiming to be black when you are pink is the lowest form of inferiority complex.
You see, when you burst their Roman fantasy bubble, the pinks lose it completely. Because that is their last false prop.
Lion!
LOL, Bitch only in your little mind did I get destroyed by Mike's Red Herring..
LOL, Roman Fantasy, Rome was what it was a Multi Ethnic Empire Ruled by White Europeans, were there black Roman citiens Yes, but few made it to Emperor status and you self hating Rusty black ass would have been calling the Blue Eyed albino Emperor Agustus Massa back then..little Bitch boy like you would probably lick the sand off his Sandals and Feet.
^^^^ Behold the Only Black Roman Emperor with his Albino Wife and Child...
Get back to the basement and put the crack pipe down Child..
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote: Originally posted by the lioness: [qb] I don't know if Rome was as multi-ethnic as New York.
quote: Originally posted by Jeri the pink gwoat:
Yes Rome Was Multi-Ethnic Blah blah blah.
quote: Hammer cries:
just ignore this child Lioness. Neither Rome or Greece was multi ethnic. He does not read the great historians of our time by his own admission and thus has no clue.
Hammer house of horror! They are having a melt-down in the house! Posted by Just call me Jari (Member # 14451) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by Just call me Jari:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness: I don't know if Rome was as multi-ethnic as New York. But clearly it was ruled by Caucasians. They were miltarisitic, known for their cruelty, brutality, poor treatment of slaves, religious persecution and decadence.
Yet in his self hating wannabeism Ironlion calls this
"basically Northern African in outlook"
Yes Rome Was Multi-Ethnic Blah blah blah...[/IMG]
Let the lies stop..
I beat them down into complete confusion. They are fighting themselves now... One says no ethinc, the other says multi-ethnic and the other pink cries all lies!
Jeri the pink gwoat, what does multi-ethnic mean? Who are those multi-ethnics? What role did they play in Roman?
Little I-Talian Wannabe Rasta, Your dumb ass was busted wen you tried to pass the Romans off as black, LMAO.
And Yes I claim Roma was Multi Ethnic because it was any fool would claim its not, considering the extents to the Empire..
LMAO you are a clown, You would have some support and Logic is you claimed Carthage, as Carthage was more Black and WAYY more African than Rome, but Self Hating Negros dont want Carthage an Impressive Civilization...You want "Da White Pink Albino" mans civilization..LOL
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by Just call me Jari:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Jari quote: Also I find it funny how the Romans are supposed to be black Africans, but we have the Pantheon in Paris, Palladian Motif in England, a Roman Bath in Britian, Baroque in Austria, Romanesque in France, Germany, and The British Isles..
Poor Uneducated Self Hating Negros don't realize how European and Anti-African Rome is and was..LOL
He, he, But Jari - didn't you tell us that YOU were Black?
Mieky I did not miss that too!
The young gwoat just destroyed himself.
Claiming to be black when you are pink is the lowest form of inferiority complex.
You see, when you burst their Roman fantasy bubble, the pinks lose it completely. Because that is their last false prop.
Lion!
LOL, Bitch only in your little mind did I get destroyed by Mike's Red Herring..
LOL, Roman Fantasy, Rome was what it was a Multi Ethnic Empire Ruled by White Europeans, were there black Roman citiens Yes, but few made it to Emperor status and you self hating Rusty black ass would have been calling the Blue Eyed albino Emperor Agustus Massa back then..little Bitch boy like you would probably lick the sand off his Sandals and Feet.
^^^^ Behold the Only Black Roman Emperor with his Albino Wife and Child...
Get back to the basement and put the crack pipe down Child..
Are you sure of that pink gwoat? Was Severus the only black Emperor of Rome? Check again, before you get super-embarrassed!
This morning, Lioness declared that the Severan dynasty was "pink-white" Do you want to consult with her before I begin dealing out the blows?
Lion! Posted by Just call me Jari (Member # 14451) on :
Go back to the basement and put the crack pipe down..
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
Rome as well as the entire southern and central and western Europe was built by aboriginal black Europeans
Mike111 from his own Website:
This culture will later be absorbed by the next great White European civilization, The Romans.
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote: Originally posted by the lioness: [qb] I don't know if Rome was as multi-ethnic as New York.
quote: Originally posted by Jeri the pink gwoat:
Yes Rome Was Multi-Ethnic Blah blah blah.
quote: Hammer cries:
just ignore this child Lioness. Neither Rome or Greece was multi ethnic. He does not read the great historians of our time by his own admission and thus has no clue.
Hammer house of horror! They are having a melt-down in the house!
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by Just call me Jari:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by Just call me Jari:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness: I don't know if Rome was as multi-ethnic as New York. But clearly it was ruled by Caucasians. They were miltarisitic, known for their cruelty, brutality, poor treatment of slaves, religious persecution and decadence.
Yet in his self hating wannabeism Ironlion calls this
"basically Northern African in outlook"
Yes Rome Was Multi-Ethnic Blah blah blah...[/IMG]
Let the lies stop..
I beat them down into complete confusion. They are fighting themselves now... One says no ethinc, the other says multi-ethnic and the other pink cries all lies!
Jeri the pink gwoat, what does multi-ethnic mean? Who are those multi-ethnics? What role did they play in Roman?
Little I-Talian Wannabe Rasta, Your dumb ass was busted wen you tried to pass the Romans off as black, LMAO.
And Yes I claim Roma was Multi Ethnic because it was any fool would claim its not, considering the extents to the Empire..
......You want "Da White Pink Albino" mans civilization..LOL
The truth is that Pink Albino just came out from the caves in the 4th century Anno Domino and conquered Rome.
Your Gothic ancestors never never created anything!
Not Rome, not Greece, not Egypt not Carthage, not Babylon, not even Arabia
LoL!
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Jari quote: Also I find it funny how the Romans are supposed to be black Africans, but we have the Pantheon in Paris, Palladian Motif in England, a Roman Bath in Britian, Baroque in Austria, Romanesque in France, Germany, and The British Isles..
Poor Uneducated Self Hating Negros don't realize how European and Anti-African Rome is and was..LOL
He, he, But Jari - didn't you tell us that YOU were Black?
White Skin = degenerate Liar!
MK - Is this one of those neurological disorders, caused by a lack of Melanin in the Brain?
Posted by Just call me Jari (Member # 14451) on :
quote: IronLion Scribbled: Blah Blah Blah...
Let the Lies Stop..
LET THE LIES STOP!!!
LONG LIVE CARTHAGE...The African Rome..Destroyed by Blue eyed Roman Invaders..
Send the I-talian Rasta back to Rome where she belongs..
Posted by Just call me Jari (Member # 14451) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
The truth is that Pink Albino just came out from the caves in the 4th century Anno Domino and conquered Rome.
Your Gothic ancestors never never created anything!
Not Rome, not Greece, not Egypt not Carthage, not Babylon, not even Arabia
LoL! [/QB][/QUOTE]
LMAO, Inferiority complex driven little I-Talian Rasta..You would have been calling the Blue Eyed Agustus Massa while he Ethnically and Culturally cleansed Km.t and Carthage and set up Apartied in Alexandria...
You're silly black ass would have worshipped this man as a God..
Just like your ancestors worshipped that White man...LMAO, Little Rasta I-Talian how would Hallie Salasse feel with a Self Hater like you bowing to White boy Agustus..LMAO.
LET THE LIES STOP..
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by Just call me Jari:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Jari quote: Also I find it funny how the Romans are supposed to be black Africans, but we have the Pantheon in Paris, Palladian Motif in England, a Roman Bath in Britian, Baroque in Austria, Romanesque in France, Germany, and The British Isles..
Poor Uneducated Self Hating Negros don't realize how European and Anti-African Rome is and was..LOL
He, he, But Jari - didn't you tell us that YOU were Black?
Mieky I did not miss that too!
The young gwoat just destroyed himself.
Claiming to be black when you are pink is the lowest form of inferiority complex.
You see, when you burst their Roman fantasy bubble, the pinks lose it completely. Because that is their last false prop.
Lion!
LOL, Bitch only in your little mind did I get destroyed by Mike's Red Herring..
LOL, Roman Fantasy, Rome was what it was a Multi Ethnic Empire Ruled by White Europeans, were there black Roman citiens Yes, but few made it to Emperor status and you self hating Rusty black ass would have been calling the Blue Eyed albino Emperor Agustus Massa back then..little Bitch boy like you would probably lick the sand off his Sandals and Feet.
^^^^ Behold the Only Black Roman Emperor with his Albino Wife and Child...
Get back to the basement and put the crack pipe down Child..
Are you sure of that pink gwoat? Was Severus the only black Emperor of Rome? Check again, before you get super-embarrassed!
This morning, Lioness declared that the Severan dynasty was "pink-white" Do you want to consult with her before I begin dealing out the blows?
Lion!
Don't hide Pink Jari Judass Answer the question! Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by Just call me Jari:
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Jari quote: Also I find it funny how the Romans are supposed to be black Africans, but we have the Pantheon in Paris, Palladian Motif in England, a Roman Bath in Britian, Baroque in Austria, Romanesque in France, Germany, and The British Isles..
Poor Uneducated Self Hating Negros don't realize how European and Anti-African Rome is and was..LOL
He, he, But Jari - didn't you tell us that YOU were Black?
Mike111 I am black but unlike you Im not infority complex driven and I am Educated, esp. in terms of Reading Comprehension..
[i]1. ba..ba..ba......
Sick pink arse
You are a pink arse gwoat meat pretending since 2006!
Now you have been outed. That is the kind of beat-down I love to give you pink devils!
LoL!
Gwoat meat, what you went through is called Caguettes...wer-wolf transformations
The neanderthal red heads used to do that too they melt down when the intellectual effort becomes too overwhelming..
You recall, the lesson on neanderthal genes?
Posted by Just call me Jari (Member # 14451) on :
Head of Augustus
Faience Ancient Egypt Said to be from Memphis Roman Period 27 B.C. - A.D. 14
This small head is thought to depict Roman Emperor Augustus. Egyptian influence is present in the suggestion of loose flesh beneath the prominent cheekbones. Although the original context of the head is unknown, a cult of Augustus did exist in Memphis and the High Priest of Ptah was chosen as its chief officiant (the "prophet of Caesar"). This appointment was likely intended to encourage cooperation during Augustus's political domination of Egypt.
Roman emperor Caligula
Posted by Just call me Jari (Member # 14451) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
You recall, the lesson on neanderthal genes?
Bitch you never proved a damn thing, you posted 3 different Articles all contradicting each other and you have yet to provide evidence that Straight Hair comes from Neaderthals...The debate was never about Red Heads clown...
But back yo your Roman Beat Down...
Roman Emperor Claudius, Musei Capitolini alla Centrale Montemartini, Rome
Roman Emperor Tiberius, Palazzo Massimo, Rome
Emperor Augustus, Montemartini
Roman Emperor Augustus, Palazzo Massimo, Rome
Posted by Just call me Jari (Member # 14451) on :
Ironed Liar you are on your own, even Mike is not helping you out..all he is doing is nit picking petty sh#t but I noticed he has yet to change his position stated on his Website..LMAO
Time to set your ass straight..
Emperor Tiberius, Palazzo Massimo, Rome
Roman Emperor Hadrian, Venice
Self Hating Bitch..LMAO
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
I asked you a simple questioon following on your claims.
Did I hear you say Severan was the only black dynasty of Rome?
Come'on Jari pink ass judass, dont hide...
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Jari the gwoat
You are shallow and ignorant it hurts!
Like I told Lioness your owner yesterday, I am not in to picture spamming with a juvenile pink gwoat.
If you have any article that says Rome was a "multi-ethnic" empire "ruled by pink-white Emperors", then POST IT OR JUST SHUT YOUR pink trap
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: I asked you a simple questioon following on your claims.
Did I hear you say Severan was the only black dynasty of Rome?
Come'on Jari pink ass judass, dont hide...
The fool has done a goggle check and quickly shut his pink dirty crap trap.
Here let's examanie the royalty and Emperors of Rome:
Do you know about Roman Emperor Pescennius Niger, the original Nigri-latini Black King of Rome?
Here is Pescennius Niger
Pescennius Niger proclaimed emperor of Rome on news of the death of Emperor Pertinax.
That was just one of the many hidden black Emperors of Rome.
Jari the pink ass judass, did that hurt? Posted by Just call me Jari (Member # 14451) on :
^^^ Rome was Multi-Ethnic, there probably was some black Concubine or Black prostitute opening her legs to the White Boy Romans, and last I checked even Severus himself was a Half Nigger, whose moms came from the Remnants of the African Rome-Carthage..the Naval Power house of the Ancient world.
I don't care about Some House Nigger Romans, the majority of the Emperors were Whites on Par with Northern Europeans and had little care for Africa and Ethnically and Culturally cleansed Km.t and Carthage. If Carthage had survived West North and East Africa would have been a power house dominating Euros like you..
so go back to Italia you White Rasta I-talian bitch..
Tuscany's name in modern days comes from the Etruscans, a very advanced ancient civilization, highly influential in the development of the early Roman civilization. But the origins of the Etruscan civilization has been a vivid debate amongst archaeologists, historians and linguists for centuries.
Three are three main theories about their origin: they came from Anatolia (modern day Turkey), as stated by the Greek historian Herotodus; they developed from the local Iron Age Villanovan society, as suggested by another Greek historian, Dionysius of Halicarnassus; or they came from an Indo-European invasion from the north, like the Latins did.
Now, the most accurate approach, the DNA analysis, was applied. A team led by Professor Piazza has investigated genetic samples from three present-day Tuscany (central Italy) populations from in Murlo, Volterra, and Casentino. "We already knew that people living in this area were genetically different from those in the surrounding regions. Murlo and Volterra are among the most archaeologically important Etruscan sites in a region of Tuscany also known for having Etruscan-derived place names and local dialects. The Casentino valley sample was taken from an area bordering the area where Etruscan influence has been preserved."
This DNA samples were compared to those coming from healthy males from Northern Italy, the Southern Balkans, the island of Lemnos (Greece), Turkey, and the Italian islands of Sicily and Sardinia.
The Tuscan samples came from individuals living in the area for at least three generations, based on their surnames, having a geographical distribution limited to the linguistic area of sampling. "We found that the DNA samples from individuals from Murlo and Volterra were more closely related those from near Eastern people than those of the other Italian samples. In Murlo particularly, one genetic variant is shared only by people from Turkey, and, of the samples we obtained, the Tuscan ones also show the closest affinity with those from Lemnos", Piazza said.
Previously, the same relationship had been found for mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) in the female lineages. Another mtDNA of local ancient breeds of cattle still living in Tuscany and other areas found a close link to those from Anatolia.
Many Etruscan cities were continuously inhabited since the Iron Age, and the people who lived in the ancient Etruria region did not appear "out of the blue". The Etruscans took the Greek alphabet, and their inscriptions revealed a language developed in situ before their first historical record, in 800 BC, without any connection with the Indo-European languages, thus the third theory was totally excluded. By 265BC, the Etruscans were totally incorporated into the Roman Empire. "But the question that remained to be answered was - how long was this process between pre-history and history?" said Piazza.
In 1885, an inscription in a pre-Greek language discovered in the island of Lemnos, dated to about the 6th century BC, presented many similarities with the Etruscan language both in its form and structure and its vocabulary. Herodotus' theory, criticized by many historians, claimed that the Etruscans emigrated from the ancient region of Lydia (now western Turkey).Half the population sailed from Smyrna (now Izmir) until they reached Umbria in Italy.
Indeed, tombs discovered in ancient Lydia are extremely similar to those of the Etruscans. The Etruscans were also skilled sailors, who traded with the Greeks and Cartagena and the God of the Sea, Neptunus, was important in their religion.
The Lydian theory also links the Etruscans to the Minoans and "People of the Sea", seafaring raiders that were at war with the Egyptians in the 12th century BC. Their civilization was centered in Crete (now an island in southern Greece) and other neighboring islands (like Lemnos) and these people spoke non-Indo-European related languages. There are significantly increasing proofs that match the Crete and Minoan civilization to Atlantis and its decline in a huge ancient tsunami.
"We think that our research provides convincing proof that Herodotus was right and that the Etruscans did indeed arrive from ancient Lydia. However, to be 100% certain we intend to sample other villages in Tuscany, and also to test whether there is a genetic continuity between the ancient Etruscans and modern-day Tuscans. This will have to be done by extracting DNA from fossils; this has been tried before but the technique for doing so has proved to be very difficult." said Piazza.
"Interestingly, this study of historical origins will give us some pointers for carrying out case-control studies of disease today. In order to obtain a reliable result, we had to select the control population much more carefully that would normally be done, and we believe that this kind of careful selection would also help in studies of complex genetic diseases." he added.
The theory of Dionysos of Hallikarnas would have linked the Etruscans to the Basque, but the probability for Indigenous pre-Indo-European people to survive the massive Indo-European invasion for millennia and even impose their domination afterwards was relatively low. Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by Just call me Jari: ^^^ blah...blah...babaaaa....
I don't care about Some House Nigger Romans, the majority of the Emperors were Whites on Par with Northern Europeans
baaa...baaa...baaaa...
Long Live KMT
Fake arse, you have a need to conceed Rome to your ancestors legacy.
But your ancestors were barbarians they never built nothing!
They were Vandals, vermins like you, Jerri Judasss the spawn of the sick pink gwoat!
Roman Emperor Commodus whose grandfather was named Nigrinus. Italian family with no animal neanderthal hair. See the wooly hair?
Sorry Jari pink Gwoat, did that hurt?
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
The Etruscans from Izmir.
Jari judarse cuts and pastes:
the Etruscans emigrated from the ancient region of Lydia (now western Turkey).Half the population sailed from Smyrna (now Izmir) until they reached Umbria in Italy.
Go check for the ancient population of Izmir, ask Mike to explain to you about the Anatolians of Izmir.
Izmir was a completely black culture.
Jari give it up, you animal genes are now drivng you to further humiliate your self...
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: Some Roman Coins:
Maximinius
Potrait of Pompey the Great as Janus
Potrait of wooly haired guy called Scipio Africanus who fought Hannibal: He likes to ride Elephants too, just like the other brotha Hannibal!
Dont forget the man who conquered Carthage for Rome.... Scipio Africanus another black man. Wooly hair ... no neanderthal animal hair Posted by Just call me Jari (Member # 14451) on :
^^^^ LMAO Bitch I thought you did'nt picture Spam..LOL, I notice you don't post anything that can clearly show Facial features..
Drusus, son of Tiberius, Louvre
Portrait of Roman Emperor Marcus Aurelius, Louvre
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by Just call me Jari: ^^^^ blah blah blah.....
Portrait of Roman Emperor Marcus Aurelius, Louvre
Do you see the pink-white skin of Marcus Aurelius? OOO, he is just so pink -white like yous..
ROFLMAO!!! Posted by Just call me Jari (Member # 14451) on :
LMAO, You dumb bitch you really think these are Blacks...ROTFLMAO
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: Some Roman Coins:
Maximinius
Potrait of Pompey the Great as Janus
Potrait of wooly haired guy called Scipio Africanus who fought Hannibal: He likes to ride Elephants too, just like the other brotha Hannibal!
Dont forget the man who conquered Carthage for Rome.... Scipio Africanus another black man. Wooly hair ... no neanderthal animal hair
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by Just call me Jari: ^^^^ blah blah blah.....
Portrait of Roman Emperor Marcus Aurelius, Louvre
Do you see the pink-white skin of Marcus Aurelius? OOO, he is just so pink -white like yous..
ROFLMAO!!!
Here is the coinage issued by Marcus Aurelius with his own wooly haired image. No neanderthal animal hair...original black Roman Nigritae
How many black Roman Emperors have I just shown you.
Before now your Cagothic arse thought I was just talking about Septimius Severus and his family.
Pink ass Gwoat..
Sorry Jarri Judas, did that hurt
Lion!
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by Just call me Jari: ^^^^ blah blah blah.....
Portrait of Roman Emperor Marcus Aurelius, Louvre
Do you see the pink-white skin of Marcus Aurelius? OOO, he is just so pink -white like yous..
ROFLMAO!!!
Here is the coinage issued by Marcus Aurelius with his own wooly haired image. No neanderthal animal hair...original black Roman Nigritae
How many black Roman Emperors have I just shown you.
Before now your Cagothic arse thought I was just talking about Septimius Severus and his family.
Pink ass Gwoat..
Sorry Jarri Judas, did that hurt
Lion!
Compare the bust of Marcus Aurelius
With the bust of His Imperial Majesty
And this picture of HIM the King of the Black Dreads!! Posted by Just call me Jari (Member # 14451) on :
^^^^ LOL, Your boat is sinking fast..All you have is a curly Haired Caucasian..
Mitochondrial DNA variation in an isolated area of Central Italy
Background: The genetic variation in Italy is the result of ancient population movement, demographic change, and geography. The increasing possibility of studying the maternal genetic structure of selected Italian population samples at a high level of phylogenetic resolution provides a particularly useful model to assess the presence of genetic traces of the ancient people who lived in Italy in pre-Roman times in present populations
Aim: In this study we reconstructed the genetic maternal history of Jenne and Vallepietra, two mountain communities in the Aniene Valley in the Simbruini Mountains near Rome. Both communities have been spared external invasion due to their geographic location, which very likely preserved the genetic pool of these autochthonous populations.
Subjects and methods: The study population (124 individuals from Jenne and Vallepietra) were investigated for D-loop mtDNA hypervariable segments I (HVS-I) and II (HVS-II) and for informative single nucleotide polymorphisms (SNPs) within the coding region. The detected haplotypes were then compared with those of other Italian, European and Mediterranean populations.
Results: The distribution of mtDNA diversity in Jenne and Vallepietra, although similar to that found in other European populations, shows a basic variability and the typical signs of a certain degree of isolation between them and other populations analysed; in particular, the Vallepietra sample showed an unusually high frequency (71.3%) of mtDNA haplogroups which are typical of Near Eastern and South-Western Asian populations.
Conclusion: The high degree of differentiation between the two villages is intriguing, since it suggests a low level of gene flow between them, despite their close geographic proximity and shared linguistic features. The degree of their genetic isolation, also in comparison to other Italian, European and Mediterranean populations, is consistent with isolation among geographically separated populations.
I think we just have a little misunderstanding here. Ironlion like Wally, subscribes to the curly haired theory. The curly haired theory states that if the person has curly hair they are black. So we just have to learn to respect their point of view.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Lioness you foolish child, EVERYTHING is relative!
PURE HUMAN:
PURE ALBINO:
EVERYONE ELSE IS "RELATIVE" TO THOSE TWO!
THUS:
This one is MORE Albino.
This one is a "Tweener"
And This one is MORE Black
Lack of Melanin in your Brain, obviously precludes your understanding of this, so please, just take my word for it. Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by Just call me Jari:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by Just call me Jari: ^^^^ LOL, Your boat is sinking fast..All you have is a curly Haired Caucasian..
Mitochondrial DNA variation in an isolated area of Central Italy
Hallmark of a Caucasian:
Pale pink Albino skin
Straight Neanderthal Hair
Coloured eyes
The MTdna they are studying are those of Goths and Cagoths like you that conquered and settled in Rome.
Just like the Turks of Egypt pretend they were ancient Kemits the Lombardis of Italy pretend that they were the ancient Romans.
Gwoat, a curly haired Caucasian was not yet born!
Your boat has sunk, nw we know the last stone holding your glass house up.."Curly Hair"..LMAO..
Here is the name of the gene that was sequenced recently which is shared by both Neanderthals and so-called pinks. This gene is responsible for your straight hair:
Name the gene which causes curly hair in pink-white Goths! Go ahead, name it!
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Dr Harding said: "It seems to be the logical conclusion to what I am saying that all Scottish redheads are descended from Neanderthals.
"The gene is certainly older than 50,000 years and it could be as old as 100,000."
Neanderthals were skilled hunters and warriors who are thought to have indulged in cannibalism, eating of human flesh by other humans. .
But experts insist they were really a caring bunch at heart.
Small with slumped shoulders, prominent brows and a high forehead, Neanderthal man had a broad chest and muscular arms and legs. Scientists say the stereotypical Scot would not be too far removed from his Neanderthal ancestors.
Indeed, Scots have long celebrated the traits of defiance and disobedience that are often found in redheads with hair- trigger tempers.
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: [QUOTE]Originally posted by IronLion: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Just call me Jari: [qb] ^^^^ blah blah blah.....
How many black Roman Emperors have I just shown you.
Before now your Cagothic arse thought I was just talking about Septimius Severus and his family.
Pink ass Gwoat..
Sorry Jarri Judas, did that hurt
Lion!
Compare the bust of Marcus Aurelius
With the bust of His Imperial Majesty
And this picture of HIM the King of the Black Dreads!!
quote: Jeri the Pink Gwoat cries:
Your boat has sunk, nw we know the last stone holding your glass house up.."Curly Hair"..LMAO..
The Science of Trichology (the scientific analysis of hair)
Many Black scholars try skillfully to avoid the hair problem. This is a mistake! In 1914, a white doctor in Detroit initiated divorce proceeding against his wife whom he suspected of being a “closet Negro”. At the trial, the Columbia University anthropologist, Professor Franz Boas (1858-1942), was called upon as a race expert. Boas declared: “If this woman has any of the characteristics of the Negro race it would be easy to find them . . . one characteristic that is regarded as reliable is the hair. You can tell by microscopic examination of a cross-section of hair to what race that person belongs.”
With this revelation, trichology (the scientific analysis of hair) reached the American public. But what are these differences?
Sorry Jari, did that hurt? Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Next we will broach the spiritual relationship between Rome and Africa.
Because it is often true that a peoples heart would be found where-ever the origin of their gods are found.
A people's spirituality is an outer manifestation in formalized rituals of their inner-most desire.
The oldest and the most pretigious Roman gods were all black Africans. Black Africans with wooly hair and the glorious dark skin.
Those early Roman gods & goddesses such as, Apollo, Zeus, Hercules, Athena, Venus, were all black, being renditions of the black Egyptian gods.
Those gods and goddess did not change colour on arriving in old Rome. They remained in their original forms.
Thus one can say with solid assurance that indeed, Romans worshipped black people as their Gods!
I think they have to be black to worship black people as their gods. Or their ancestors had to be black to their own knowledge.
The Cagotic barbarians began changing the images of those gods and goddess to their albino image. Just like they did with the image of the latter-day god Jesus, and the goddess Maria.
I have images of those black gods of Rome, (made and worshipped by Romans) as they were originally conceived.
We will be exploring them in time and turn.
Lion!
Posted by Just call me Jari (Member # 14451) on :
As We can See IronLiar's 3 sources cntradict each other...LMAO..
This Source says Nederthals had Hair and skin Variety on only 1% were MCR1 Plus it claims that Humans and Neaderthal had different evolutionary paths to Red Hair..
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: The whole shebang!
MC1R Gene Mutations Suggest some Neanderthals Were Red Heads
The international team says that Neanderthals' pigmentation may even have been as varied as that of modern humans, and that at least 1 percent of Neanderthals were likely redheads.
To ensure that the MC1R point mutation was not due to contamination from modern humans, the scientists checked some 3,700 people, including those previously sequenced for the gene as well as everyone involved in the excavation and genetic analysis of the two Neanderthals. None showed the mutation, suggesting that Neanderthals and Homo sapiens followed different evolutionary paths to the same redheaded appearance.
- Harvard
Iron Lion Source..Claims 4% has no evolutionary benefit, Tin Liar is too stupid to realize MC1R is an Evolutionary mutation not a Relic like the 4% N. Genes..
The Neanderthal DNA appears in the modern human genomes randomly, suggesting it offers no evolutionary benefit and is merely a genetic relic.
Iron Lion Source..
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: Dr Harding said: "It seems to be the logical conclusion to what I am saying that all Scottish redheads are descended from Neanderthals.
"The gene is certainly older than 50,000 years and it could be as old as 100,000."
Neanderthals were skilled hunters and warriors who are thought to have indulged in cannibalism, eating of human flesh by other humans. .
But experts insist they were really a caring bunch at heart.
Small with slumped shoulders, prominent brows and a high forehead, Neanderthal man had a broad chest and muscular arms and legs. Scientists say the stereotypical Scot would not be too far removed from his Neanderthal ancestors.
Indeed, Scots have long celebrated the traits of defiance and disobedience that are often found in redheads with hair- trigger tempers.
^^^ Now this clown finds some moron who claims "Scots" are Red Head neaderthal based on somebody's opion and not Biological studies or Genetic studies..and this..LMAO, depite the evidence showing that Neaderthals were not Humans not thought like Human beings..but even so, The Scots are One of many Caucasians.
Once Again Tin Lion failed to shw Straight Hair=4% neaderthal Genenes in Human Biology..
LMAO
Tin Liar is mentally unstabble, her self hating mentality is dependent on stealing Whiteboy Rome..LOL
Go Back to I-talia bitch..
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: Next we will broach the spiritual relationship between Rome and Africa.
Because it is often true that a peoples heart would be found where-ever the origin of their gods are found.
A people's spirituality is an outer manifestation in formalized rituals of their inner-most desire.
The oldest and the most pretigious Roman gods were all black Africans. Black Africans with wooly hair and the glorious dark skin.
Those early Roman gods & goddesses such as, Apollo, Zeus, Hercules, Athena, Venus, were all black, being renditions of the black Egyptian gods.
Those gods and goddess did not change colour on arriving in old Rome. They remained in their original forms.
Thus one can say with solid assurance that indeed, Romans worshipped black people as their Gods!
I think they have to be black to worship black people as their gods. Or their ancestors had to be black to their own knowledge.
The Cagotic barbarians began changing the images of those gods and goddess to their albino image. Just like they did with the image of the latter-day god Jesus, and the goddess Maria.
I have images of those black gods of Rome, (made and worshipped by Romans) as they were originally conceived.
We will be exploring them in time and turn.
Lion!
Introducing the black Roman God Hercules and his hunting dog as depicted by contemporary Romans No animal hair...! Regard! Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by Just call me Jari: As We can See IronLiar's 3 sources cntradict each other...LMAO..
This Source says Nederthals had Hair and skin Variety on only 1% were MCR1 .....
Plus blah blah blah...different evolutionary paths to Red Hair..
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: ....[/b][/i]
Iron Lion Source.. [QUOTE]Originally posted by IronLion: [qb] ....
^^^ Now this clown finds some moron who claims "Scots" are Red Head neaderthal based on somebody's opion and not Biological studies or Genetic studies..and this..LMAO, depite the evidence showing that Neaderthals were not Humans not thought like Human beings..but even so, The Scots are One of many Caucasians.
blah...blah...blah...
OXFORD UNIVERSITY SCHOLAR vs. Jari the Gwoat:
Oxford University boffins at the Institute of Molecular Medicine say mischief and mayhem is in the genes - the gene that causes red hair.
Neanderthals were a thuggish race of bruisers who roamed Europe 50,000 years ago, living in caves.
It had been thought they were driven to extinction when modern man appeared on the scene from Africa 30,000 years ago.
But genealogist Dr Rosalind Harding says they survived and live on in red-haired Scots.
Around 10 per cent of Scots have red hair and a further 40 per cent carry the ginger gene.
But evolution expert Dr Harding claims that gene pre-dates the arrival of homo sapiens Homo sapiens
In fact, it could be up to 100,000 years old.
And he insists it could not have originated in Africa because it is also associated with freckles and fair skin.
These are traits which natural selection would never have allowed in the blistering African heat.
And that, say experts, suggests the gene must have come from the people that were here before modern man came out of Africa - the Neanderthals.
Rather than being driven out of existence, they say he may actually have formed relationships with the new arrivals.
Dr Harding said: "It seems to be the logical conclusion to what I am saying that all Scottish redheads are descended from Neanderthals..Neanderthals...Neanderthals....Neanderthaaaaaa
As We can See IronLiar's 3 sources cntradict each other...LMAO..
This Source says Nederthals had Hair and skin Variety on only 1% were MCR1 Plus it claims that Humans and Neaderthal had different evolutionary paths to Red Hair..
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: The whole shebang!
MC1R Gene Mutations Suggest some Neanderthals Were Red Heads
The international team says that Neanderthals' pigmentation may even have been as varied as that of modern humans, and that at least 1 percent of Neanderthals were likely redheads.
To ensure that the MC1R point mutation was not due to contamination from modern humans, the scientists checked some 3,700 people, including those previously sequenced for the gene as well as everyone involved in the excavation and genetic analysis of the two Neanderthals. None showed the mutation, suggesting that Neanderthals and Homo sapiens followed different evolutionary paths to the same redheaded appearance.
- Harvard
Iron Lion Source..Claims 4% has no evolutionary benefit, Tin Liar is too stupid to realize MC1R is an Evolutionary mutation not a Relic like the 4% N. Genes..
The Neanderthal DNA appears in the modern human genomes randomly, suggesting it offers no evolutionary benefit and is merely a genetic relic.
Iron Lion Source..
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: Dr Harding said: "It seems to be the logical conclusion to what I am saying that all Scottish redheads are descended from Neanderthals.
"The gene is certainly older than 50,000 years and it could be as old as 100,000."
Neanderthals were skilled hunters and warriors who are thought to have indulged in cannibalism, eating of human flesh by other humans. .
But experts insist they were really a caring bunch at heart.
Small with slumped shoulders, prominent brows and a high forehead, Neanderthal man had a broad chest and muscular arms and legs. Scientists say the stereotypical Scot would not be too far removed from his Neanderthal ancestors.
Indeed, Scots have long celebrated the traits of defiance and disobedience that are often found in redheads with hair- trigger tempers.
^^^ Now this clown finds some moron who claims "Scots" are Red Head neaderthal based on somebody's opion and not Biological studies or Genetic studies..and this..LMAO, depite the evidence showing that Neaderthals were not Humans not thought like Human beings..but even so, The Scots are One of many Caucasians.
Once Again Tin Lion failed to shw Straight Hair=4% neaderthal Genenes in Human Biology..
LMAO
Tin Liar is mentally unstabble, her self hating mentality is dependent on stealing Whiteboy Rome..LOL
Go Back to I-talia bitch..
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by Just call me Jari: As We can See IronLiar's 3 sources cntradict each other...LMAO..
This Source says Nederthals had Hair and skin Variety on only 1% were MCR1 .....
Plus blah blah blah...different evolutionary paths to Red Hair..
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: ....[/b][/i]
Iron Lion Source.. [QUOTE]Originally posted by IronLion: [qb] ....
^^^ Now this clown finds some moron who claims "Scots" are Red Head neaderthal based on somebody's opion and not Biological studies or Genetic studies..and this..LMAO, depite the evidence showing that Neaderthals were not Humans not thought like Human beings..but even so, The Scots are One of many Caucasians.
blah...blah...blah...
OXFORD UNIVERSITY SCHOLAR vs. Jari the Gwoat:
Oxford University boffins at the Institute of Molecular Medicine say mischief and mayhem is in the genes - the gene that causes red hair.
Neanderthals were a thuggish race of bruisers who roamed Europe 50,000 years ago, living in caves.
It had been thought they were driven to extinction when modern man appeared on the scene from Africa 30,000 years ago.
But genealogist Dr Rosalind Harding says they survived and live on in red-haired Scots.
Around 10 per cent of Scots have red hair and a further 40 per cent carry the ginger gene.
But evolution expert Dr Harding claims that gene pre-dates the arrival of homo sapiens Homo sapiens
In fact, it could be up to 100,000 years old.
And he insists it could not have originated in Africa because it is also associated with freckles and fair skin.
These are traits which natural selection would never have allowed in the blistering African heat.
And that, say experts, suggests the gene must have come from the people that were here before modern man came out of Africa - the Neanderthals.
Rather than being driven out of existence, they say he may actually have formed relationships with the new arrivals.
Dr Harding said: "It seems to be the logical conclusion to what I am saying that all Scottish redheads are descended from Neanderthals..Neanderthals...Neanderthals....Neanderthaaaaaa
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: Next we will broach the spiritual relationship between Rome and Africa.
Because it is often true that a peoples heart would be found where-ever the origin of their gods are found.
A people's spirituality is an outer manifestation in formalized rituals of their inner-most desire.
The oldest and the most pretigious Roman gods were all black Africans. Black Africans with wooly hair and the glorious dark skin.
Those early Roman gods & goddesses such as, Apollo, Zeus, Hercules, Athena, Venus, were all black, being renditions of the black Egyptian gods.
Those gods and goddess did not change colour on arriving in old Rome. They remained in their original forms.
Thus one can say with solid assurance that indeed, Romans worshipped black people as their Gods!
I think they have to be black to worship black people as their gods. Or their ancestors had to be black to their own knowledge.
The Cagotic barbarians began changing the images of those gods and goddess to their albino image. Just like they did with the image of the latter-day god Jesus, and the goddess Maria.
I have images of those black gods of Rome, (made and worshipped by Romans) as they were originally conceived.
We will be exploring them in time and turn.
Lion!
Introducing the black Roman God Hercules and his hunting dog as depicted by contemporary Romans No animal hair...! Regard!
This statute of a Kemitic person comes from a Roman Temple of Isis, Black Goddess Isis..you know Isis, my mama!
Black African God of Rome Mars, much favoured and loved by the Romans:
Hercules again..see the wooly hair..regard!
Neptune, any doubts?
Mars Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by Just call me Jari:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by Just call me Jari: ^^^^ LOL, Your boat is sinking fast..All you have is a curly Haired Caucasian..
Mitochondrial DNA variation in an isolated area of Central Italy
Hallmark of a Caucasian:
Pale pink Albino skin
Straight Neanderthal Hair
Coloured eyes
The MTdna they are studying are those of Goths and Cagoths like you that conquered and settled in Rome.
Just like the Turks of Egypt pretend they were ancient Kemits the Lombardis of Italy pretend that they were the ancient Romans.
Gwoat, a curly haired Caucasian was not yet born!
Your boat has sunk, nw we know the last stone holding your glass house up.."Curly Hair"..LMAO..
Here is the name of the gene that was sequenced recently which is shared by both Neanderthals and so-called pinks. This gene is responsible for your straight hair:
Name the gene which causes curly hair in pink-white Goths! Go ahead, name it!
Dont run Gwoat, answer the question..
Bad hair day Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: [QUOTE]Originally posted by IronLion: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Just call me Jari: [qb] ^^^^ blah blah blah.....
How many black Roman Emperors have I just shown you.
Before now your Cagothic arse thought I was just talking about Septimius Severus and his family.
Pink ass Gwoat..
Sorry Jarri Judas, did that hurt
Lion!
Compare the bust of Marcus Aurelius
With the bust of His Imperial Majesty
And this picture of HIM the King of the Black Dreads!!
quote: Jeri the Pink Gwoat cries:
Your boat has sunk, nw we know the last stone holding your glass house up.."Curly Hair"..LMAO..
The Science of Trichology (the scientific analysis of hair)
Many Black scholars try skillfully to avoid the hair problem. This is a mistake! In 1914, a white doctor in Detroit initiated divorce proceeding against his wife whom he suspected of being a “closet Negro”. At the trial, the Columbia University anthropologist, Professor Franz Boas (1858-1942), was called upon as a race expert. Boas declared: “If this woman has any of the characteristics of the Negro race it would be easy to find them . . . one characteristic that is regarded as reliable is the hair. You can tell by microscopic examination of a cross-section of hair to what race that person belongs.”
With this revelation, trichology (the scientific analysis of hair) reached the American public. But what are these differences?
Sorry Jari, did that hurt?
What is your thought on Trichology?
Eh Jari, what are your thoughts, about that and straight hairs of Europeans? Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
Was Roman Empire White?
Roman men and women used to wear wigs made from blond hair of the Goths and dark hair of the Indians? Most of those straight hair statutes you see were sporting wigs. Because the Romans, both men and women were notorious for wearing wigs.
You know what else the Romans invented?
BLEACHING CREAM! For themselves to use!
.
BLACK EMPERORS OF ROME
Julius Caesar
Augustus
Claudius
vespasian
Tiberius
Trajan
I'm convinced now. Iron's right. Look at the Sudan/Ethiopic features of these men. Obviously of African origin, just add a wig and bleaching cream
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
skin bleached black dude, modern
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
Was Roman Empire White?
Roman men and women used to wear wigs made from blond hair of the Goths and dark hair of the Indians? Most of those straight hair statutes you see were sporting wigs. Because the Romans, both men and women were notorious for wearing wigs.
You know what else the Romans invented?
BLEACHING CREAM! For themselves to use!
.
.....blah blah baaaa...I'm convinced now. Iron's right. Look at the Sudan/Ethiopic features of these men. Obviously of African origin, just add a wig and bleaching cream
Lioness
You are sooo stupid it hurts.
Sooo empty, I feel polluted responding to you.
One last beat-down, since you are begging for it.
Romans and bleaching cream:
In 200 B.C., ancient Greek women applied white lead powder and chalk to lighten their skin. It was considered fashionable for Greek women to have a pale complexion.
Roman women also favored a pale complexion. Men also wore makeup to lighten their skin tone. They would use white lead powder, chalk, and creams to lighten their skin tone. Wealthy Romans favored white lead paste, which can lead to disfigurements and death.
The cream is made out of animal fat, starch, tin oxide. The fat would be made from animal carcasses and they heated the carcasses to remove any color. Tin oxide is made out of heating tin metal in air. The animal fat provides a smooth texture and the tin oxide provided color to the cream. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundation
Now answer Lioness...why would albinos white women bleach their skin????
And why would albinos white men bleach their skin???
You see the picture better now?
Were Romans albinos???? Please respond!
Sorry if that hurt Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness: skin bleached black dude, modern
This albino Cagot here would never need to bleach, whereas the Romans were big on bleaching.
quote: In 200 B.C., ancient Greek women applied white lead powder and chalk to lighten their skin. It was considered fashionable for Greek women to have a pale complexion.
Roman women also favored a pale complexion. Men also wore makeup to lighten their skin tone. They would use white lead powder, chalk, and creams to lighten their skin tone. Wealthy Romans favored white lead paste, which can lead to disfigurements and death.
The cream is made out of animal fat, starch, tin oxide. The fat would be made from animal carcasses and they heated the carcasses to remove any color. Tin oxide is made out of heating tin metal in air. The animal fat provides a smooth texture and the tin oxide provided color to the cream. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundation
Were Romans Cagots like the above?
Lion!
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
so Iron, you're saying Roman looking guys like this used to bleach melanin out of their skins to look more like Visigoths ?
that's real pro black
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness:
so Iron, you're saying guys like this used to bleach melanin out of their skins to look more like Visigoths ?
that's real pro black
Did you even realize the Romans bleached?
Pathetic Cagot spawn like you.
What I am saying is contained in the article I posted for you. Go read it and fvck off with your weak attempts at leading me with your idiotic questions... Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
Was Roman Empire White?
Roman men and women used to wear wigs made from blond hair of the Goths and dark hair of the Indians? Most of those straight hair statutes you see were sporting wigs. Because the Romans, both men and women were notorious for wearing wigs.
You know what else the Romans invented?
BLEACHING CREAM! For themselves to use!
.
.....blah blah baaaa...I'm convinced now. Iron's right. Look at the Sudan/Ethiopic features of these men. Obviously of African origin, just add a wig and bleaching cream
Lioness
You are sooo stupid it hurts.
Sooo empty, I feel polluted responding to you.
One last beat-down, since you are begging for it.
Romans and bleaching cream:
In 200 B.C., ancient Greek women applied white lead powder and chalk to lighten their skin. It was considered fashionable for Greek women to have a pale complexion.
Roman women also favored a pale complexion. Men also wore makeup to lighten their skin tone. They would use white lead powder, chalk, and creams to lighten their skin tone. Wealthy Romans favored white lead paste, which can lead to disfigurements and death.
The cream is made out of animal fat, starch, tin oxide. The fat would be made from animal carcasses and they heated the carcasses to remove any color. Tin oxide is made out of heating tin metal in air. The animal fat provides a smooth texture and the tin oxide provided color to the cream. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundation
Now answer Lioness...why would albinos white women bleach their skin????
And why would albinos white men bleach their skin???
You see the picture better now?
Were Romans albinos???? Please respond!
Sorry if that hurt
Snaky
Please respond to the query waiting for you!
Lion!
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
Iron, did it occur to you that the sculptures of the Roman Emperors I posted were unpainted? why are we even talking about skin color in relation to those famous statues of Roman Emperors?
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness: Iron, did it occur to you that the sculptures of the Roman Emperors I posted were unpainted? why are we even talking about skin color in relation to those famous statues of Roman Emperors?
Upperclass Greco-Roman women show off their affluence by being pale. Having a pale face signifies upper social class. A tanned women would be considered lower class. Women would wear water soluble lead paint or powder. In the 6th century, women would often bleed themselves to achieve a pale complexion.[4] One of the most popular powders is called Aqua Tofana, an arsenic face powder. The container contained a note telling women to visit the creator, Signora Toffana. They can get instructions from her. She told them to apply the powder to their cheeks. Women unknowingly placed the powder on their cheeks and died because the powder is poisonous.[5
Answer me BYTCH...
Why would an Albino white woman need to bleach her skin any further than nature already bleached it????
So were the Roman women Albino white women as you foolishly thought?
Answer BYTCH!
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Roman Women and bleaching:
With the coming of the northern slaves from Britain and Germany with their pale skins, the Roman women began to use bleach and white based cosmetics in an attempt to appear to have a lighter skin tone. They also tried bleaching their hair blonde.
Possibly again to imitate the pale and classical looks of the northern slaves which seemed to excite the Roman male so much.
However, they do not appear to have been too successful with their bleaches, as it has been recorded that they constantly wore wigs, made from the hair of the captured Gaulish women to cover up their own poor growths of hair.
Their constant quest for a perfect pale skin also began to take its toll as the cosmetics they used were usually a w=hite lead Jerivative. This had a very poisonous and destructive effect on the skin and sent the ladies scurrying to every seller of appointments and creams in search of an antidote to restore them, at least, to their former looks.
Why would Albino women need to bleach to look like a slave Albino women? If Romans were Albinos like you, why would they need to bleach their skin and wear wigs, so that they could look like Albino women? Why?
Please respond Lyinass, please dont run away!
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
Why would Albino women need to bleach to look like a slave Albino women?
because they looked like this
[/QUOTE]
but wanted to look like this
why they wanted to do this I don't know
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: So Lyinass
Why would Albino women need to bleach to look like a slave Albino women? If Romans were Albinos like you, why would they need to bleach their skin and wear wigs, so that they could look like Albino women? Why?
quote:Originally posted by the lioness:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
Why would Albino women need to bleach to look like a slave Albino women?
blah blah baaaa... ....
why they wanted to do this I don't know
Then go fvck with the Jooos that do you.
Fvck off and dont bother come to me with your "I dont knows", and sundry ignorance.
Fvck off!
When you know the answer, then come back come talk!
Runnnn!!!!
Lion! Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Jari the gwoaat meat has been nyamed up!
Hammer has gone away in fear.
Lioness fled in embarrassment.
Whose turn next?
Topic Under Discussion:
Was Rome White? Lord knows it is a no!
Rome fought the so-called white and tried to keep them from breaking out of their caucasus region.
Lion!
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
answer: Rome was not white
just 87.3 %
Posted by Just call me Jari (Member # 14451) on :
LOL, scum, only in your corroded mind did you beat me. All one has to do is look and see how your ass was kicked by me and lioness and how your dumb self hating ass is trying to claim obvious White Europeans as black.
Might wanna ask yourself why Mike111 has not endorsed nor even made a decent contribution to this topic. Although he wont admit it He is on the side of me and Lioness on Rome. Even Mike wont endorse you nor does he even consider your presence. You are a lone Psycho, probably took special ed in school...lol
Keep Yelping Scum, maybe if you yelp long enough you might convince others you won this..LOL
Scum, Stay at the bottom of my resonse..
Scum
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: Jari the gwoaat meat has been nyamed up!
Hammer has gone away in fear.
Lioness fled in embarrassment.
Whose turn next?
Topic Under Discussion:
Was Rome White? Lord knows it is a no!
Rome fought the so-called white and tried to keep them from breaking out of their caucasus region.
Lion!
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
Ironedlion is a Frankenstein monster that escaped from the laboratory of Mike111
Saddly professor Mikey has left him out in the cold with no back up
Lion!
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by Just call me Jari: LOL, scum, only in your corroded mind did you beat me. All one has to do is look and see how your ass was kicked by me and lioness and how your dumb self hating ass is trying to claim obvious White Europeans as black.
Might wanna ask yourself why Mike111 has not endorsed nor even made a decent contribution to this topic. Although he wont admit it He is on the side of me and Lioness on Rome. Even Mike wont endorse you nor does he even consider your presence. You are a lone Psycho, probably took special ed in school...lol
Keep Yelping Scum, maybe if you yelp long enough you might convince others you won this..LOL
Scum, Stay at the bottom of my resonse..
Scum
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: Jari the gwoaat meat has been nyamed up!
Hammer has gone away in fear.
Lioness fled in embarrassment.
Whose turn next?
Topic Under Discussion:
Was Rome White? Lord knows it is a no!
Rome fought the so-called white and tried to keep them from breaking out of their caucasus region.
Lion!
Gwoat bleats "baaa...baaa...baaa..whitey"
Gwoat I am a scholar and can stand on my own. I do not need crouches or buddy support to desstroy you with my sources.
Gwoat, how could white Albinos people be bleaching like the Romans did?
Does your albino pink mother bleach? oes your Albino pink father use bleaching cream?
Gwoat who do you know that bleaches their skin to lighten up their colour in this world of today?
Gwoat, you will still be waiting for your owner Lioness to give you permission before you add up two and two together.
Pink Gwoat meat, with neanderthal-animal straight hair, and albino skin now... you know where you come from.
Lion! Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by Just call me Jari:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by Just call me Jari: ^^^^ LOL, Your boat is sinking fast..All you have is a curly Haired Caucasian..
Mitochondrial DNA variation in an isolated area of Central Italy
Hallmark of a Caucasian:
Pale pink Albino skin
Straight Neanderthal Hair
Coloured eyes
The MTdna they are studying are those of Goths and Cagoths like you that conquered and settled in Rome.
Just like the Turks of Egypt pretend they were ancient Kemits the Lombardis of Italy pretend that they were the ancient Romans.
Gwoat, a curly haired Caucasian was not yet born!
Your boat has sunk, nw we know the last stone holding your glass house up.."Curly Hair"..LMAO..
Here is the name of the gene that was sequenced recently which is shared by both Neanderthals and so-called pinks. This gene is responsible for your straight hair:
Name the gene which causes curly hair in pink-white Goths! Go ahead, name it!
Dont run Gwoat, answer the question..
Bad hair day
Gwoat, I just named the chromosomal gene you shared with Neanderthals giving you animal like hairs.
Now Gwoat, name the gene which causes curly hair in pink-white Goths! Go ahead, name it!
I have been waiting two days now!!!
Lion! Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness: Ironedlion is a Frankenstein monster that escaped from the laboratory of Mike111
Saddly professor Mikey has left him out in the cold with no back up
quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by IronLion:
Why would Albino women need to bleach to look like a slave Albino women? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by the lioness:
why they wanted to do this I don't know -------------------------------------------------------------------
SUPER DUNCE!
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by IronLion:
Why would Albino women need to bleach to look like a slave Albino women? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by the lioness:
why they wanted to do this I don't know -------------------------------------------------------------------
Iron, don't cut and paste quotes.
I never gave that answer to a question that had the word "albino" in it.
Italian white people or ancient Romans were not albinos. The are typically darker than Northern European white people especially the Southern Italians are darker.
Now if he was to use a skin bleaching chemical maybe he could get his skin to look more German like this:
Why the Romans would want to do this, I don't know. You said they like to do this so tell us why they wanted to look whiter as you descend further into madness.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally Posted by Lyinass:
Italian white people or ancient Romans were not albinos. The are typically darker than Northern European white people especially the Southern Italians are darker.
quote: Originally posted by Jari the red-pink Gwoat:
Yes Rome Was .... ruled by Caucasians who were much more whiter than the current Italians of Today. The Early Romans Emperors were light haired and light eyed Caucasians like the Northern Europeans.
Another Hammer House of Horror Another confused melt down!
Which one is it guys? Albinos or not Albinos?
THE BEATDOWN CONTINUES.....
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by Lyingass: Italian white people or ancient Romans were not albinos. The are typically darker than Northern European white people especially the Southern Italians are darker.
You mean dark like this :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111:
quote:
[b]
Sorry Lyinass, did that hurt???
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Dark like this?
Sorry Lyinass, did that hurt? Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
^^^^^^ 12.7% of Rome
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
During the second Punic war between Carthage and Rome, two Moorish Numidian kings took different sides, Syphax with Carthage, Masinissa with the Romans, decisively so at Zama.
what's your point?
I could post a few black people who live in Japan. By your standard that would prove Japan is primarily black. continue licking the Roman craker's boots
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lyingas: ^ 12.7% of Rome
quote:Originally posted by lyinass: answer: Rome was not white
just 87.3 %
quote: Originally posted by Lyingass: Italian white people or ancient Romans were not albinos. The are typically darker than Northern European white people especially the Southern Italians are darker.
Ms pink Lyinass,
Which one is it? Make up your mind!
Which of your rambling above is true? Authority?
While you are at it, answer this:
Why would albino whites use bleaching cream?
Would you use bleaching cream on your pink arse?
Lion! Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness: During the second Punic war between Carthage and Rome, two Moorish Numidian kings took different sides, Syphax with Carthage, Masinissa with the Romans, decisively so at Zama.
what's your point?
Dunce
That mural is not from Africa. It was a campaign conducted in central Europe, against the Dacians of Thrace, by Moorish Roman Nigri-Latini cavalry.
They were there to keep out your barbarian Cagothic ancestors, siince those cagots were inflitrating into Roman central Europe from their base in Turkemenistan ...
Lion!
Moorish Roman Cavalry kicking Albino ass! Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by the lyingas: ^^^^^^ 12.7% of Rome
quote:Originally posted by lyinass: answer: Rome was not white
just 87.3 %
quote: Originally posted by Lyingass: Italian white people or ancient Romans were not albinos. The are typically darker than Northern European white people especially the Southern Italians are darker.
Ms Jekyl and Hyde, the Lyinass,
Which one is it? Make up your mind!
Which of your rambling above is true? Authority?
While you are at it, answer this:
Why would albino whites use bleaching cream?
Would you use bleaching cream on your pink arse?
Lion!
what do you mean make up your mind. I thought you could figure out the shorthand.
Rome was not 100% white.
Just 83.7% of it was and was ruled by whites, similar to America. None of the white people were albinos (except maybe .002%) Some of the white people were a little darker like you will see in the South of Italy today, like the picture I posted previously. The people of Germany are also white and less albino per capita than the people of Tanzania.
damn got to spell it out for the kid
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by the lyingas: ^^^^^^ 12.7% of Rome
quote:Originally posted by lyinass: answer: Rome was not white
just 87.3 %
quote: Originally posted by Lyingass: Italian white people or ancient Romans were not albinos. The are typically darker than Northern European white people especially the Southern Italians are darker.
Ms Jekyl and Hyde, the Lyinass,
Which one is it? Make up your mind!
Which of your rambling above is true? Authority?
While you are at it, answer this:
Why would albino whites use bleaching cream?
Would you use bleaching cream on your pink arse?
Lion!
what do you mean make up your mind. I thought you could figure out the shorthand.
Rome was not 100% white.
Just 83.7% of it was and was ruled by whites, similar to America. None of the white people were albinos.Some of the white people were a little darker like you will see in the South of Italy today, like the picture I posted previously. The people of Germany are also white ...
Dunce
The pale cagots you see in Rome today are descendants of the Goths who conquered Rome. Even they would tell you that they have no part in Rome.
Modern day Italians are descended from Hun, Vandals, Lombardis, and Normans. They are not descended from ancient Romans.
Now answer me my question:
WOULD YOU USE BLEACHING CREAM ON YOUR PINK ALBINOS BUTT?
If ancient Romans were really Albinos like today's cagots in United States and Canada, why then, would they try to use chemicals to alter their skin and hair so they could look like Albinos?
Lion! Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness: During the second Punic war between Carthage and Rome, two Moorish Numidian kings took different sides, Syphax with Carthage, Masinissa with the Romans, decisively so at Zama.
what's your point?
Dunce
That mural is not from Africa. It was a campaign conducted in central Europe, against the Dacians of Thrace, by Moorish Roman Nigri-Latini cavalry.
They were there to keep out your barbarian Cagothic ancestors, siince those cagots were inflitrating into Roman central Europe from their base in Turkemenistan ...
Lion!
Moorish Roman Cavalry kicking Albino ass!
Dunce
I can hear your loud silence on this one!
Lion! Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
SILENCE. Lyinass are you hurt?
sorry Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote::
quote::
quote:Originally posted by the lyingas: ^^^^^^ 12.7% of Rome
quote:Originally posted by lyinass: answer: Rome was not white
just 87.3 %
quote: Originally posted by Lyingass: Italian white people or ancient Romans were not albinos. The are typically darker than Northern European white people especially the Southern Italians are darker.
Rome was not 100% white.
Just 83.7% of it was and was ruled by whites, similar to America. None of the white people were albinos (except maybe .002%) .. baaaa..baaa..baaaa
quote:Originally posted by lyinass: don't know if Rome was as multi-ethnic as New York.... I
Lyingass
When did you arrive at this statistics?
Which of the time period of the 1000 years of the existence of Rome are you referencing?
Where is your academic authority?
Lion!
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness:
quote:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: ^^^ I grew up with cousins that looked exactly like that boy in the heart of tropical Nigeria.
Their mothers were white but their fathers were black. I now that tribe so well know that you cannot pass one of them off to me as a "white" boy.
No way. He is black to me. I say he probably got black genes, because I have blood cousins like that, who have more Nigerian culture than I do .
I think we just have a little misunderstanding here. Ironlion like Wally, subscribes to the curly haired theory. The curly haired theory states that if the person has curly hair they are black. So we just have to learn to respect their point of view.
Here is the name of the gene that was sequenced recently which is shared by both Neanderthals and so-called pinks. This gene is responsible for your straight hair:
Name the gene which causes curly hair in pink-white Goths! Go ahead, name it! Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Roooooaaaaaarrrrrr!
Where are the gwoats and the rats? The pink bwoi faking to be black; The pink-arse dunce with a black woman icon; and the red-neck Professor of Welders from Texas?
They are gone, they are gone...
The IronLion ate them up!
Roooooooaaaaaarrrrrrr! Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness: Iron. get a grip, this is white supremacy right here.
Julius Caesar
Augustus
Claudius
vespasian
Tiberius
Trajan [/QB]
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
^^A few re-constructed images of Roman Emperors out of 400 Roman Emperors... equals white supremacy for you.
But nooo, pink-white supremacy began with the Pink Goths. It is a very recent mental dis-order, associated exclusively with Cagots like you!
Brown Muurish ethnicity was elite and Royalty of Rome.
Goths were outcasts and enemies of Rome.
Same as in Greece. Barbarians and Vandals.
Incorrigible fool. You need to go to school!
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Lets talk about Trajan.
Trajan was one of the Emperors who hated the Goths beyond belief.
Ethincity was part-Iberian. We must not forget that the Iberians came directly from Africa and settled Spain many thousand years back.
But they always maintained their linkages with Africa. Mainly through the intermediary of the Cartheginians and the Mauritanians. Hence the Iberians are also called the Ibero-Maurisians.
Trajan was born and raised in Spain. It was in his time that the Goths (Germanics and Franjis) and the Parthians became so bold as to inflitrate and threaten the Empire.
On becoming Emperor, Trajan organized raids against the Goths in Central and Eastern Europe as well as the Parthians in Persia.
His unrelenting campaign against the Goths and the Parthians was considered simply muderous, as he would destroy their camps as well as every living thing in them.
During his reign, Roman reached an apogee in its expansion. Trajan conquered and enslaved many goths and parthian communities bringing them into the Empire and within the pale of civilization.
It was said that during his time Rome became a multi-ethnic society by conquest.
But it should be recalled that Trajan's whole life was dedicated in suppressing the Goths and the Parthians. Trajan did not make war against any African state in his time, but he used Afro-Roman Knights to bring the Goths under control.
Thus we can sum up that black and brown Rome became paler, in the time of Trajan after he had conquered and subjugated the pale tribes of the Germanics, and the Iranis (Parthians).
Lion!
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
call me crazy but Trajan doesn't look black to me. YCBS
you cant be serious
the fact that this white man was battling other white people people does not change that, wake the hell up, we in the field now not the house
Posted by Just call me Jari (Member # 14451) on :
Descriptions of Roman Emperors..
Nero-He was about the average height, his body marked with spots and malodorous, his hair light blond, his features regular rather than attractive, his eyes blue and somewhat weak, his neck over thick, his belly prominent, and his legs very slender.
He had clear, bright eyes, in which he liked to have it thought that there was a kind of divine power, and it greatly pleased him, whenever he looked keenly at anyone, if he let his face fall as if before the radiance of the sun; but in his old age he could not see very well with his left eye. His teeth were wide apart, small, and ill-kept; his hair was slightly curly and inclining to golden; his eyebrows met. His ears were of moderate size, and his nose projected a little at the top and then bent slightly inward.110 His complexion was between dark and fair.
Ancient Roman portrait. From Parma, Italy. Musée du Louvre, Paris.
Egyptian Roman Mummy Portraits..
Roman...
MORE TO COME FOLKS...
Posted by Just call me Jari (Member # 14451) on :
LET THE LIES STOP!!!
^^^^ IronLion and Mike
Posted by Just call me Jari (Member # 14451) on :
Roman Emperor Augustus. Cameo. Before 14 A.D. Sardonix. Kunsthistorisches Museum, Vienna.
Head of Augustus
Faience Ancient Egypt Said to be from Memphis Roman Period 27 B.C. - A.D. 14
This small head is thought to depict Roman Emperor Augustus. Egyptian influence is present in the suggestion of loose flesh beneath the prominent cheekbones. Although the original context of the head is unknown, a cult of Augustus did exist in Memphis and the High Priest of Ptah was chosen as its chief officiant (the "prophet of Caesar"). This appointment was likely intended to encourage cooperation during Augustus's political domination of Egypt.
The Claudius Cameo. Roman. 41-54 A.D. Kunsthistorisches Museum, Vienna.
Posted by Just call me Jari (Member # 14451) on :
Roman Emperor Claudius, Musei Capitolini alla Centrale Montemartini, Rome
Roman Emperor Tiberius, Palazzo Massimo, Rome
Emperor Augustus, Montemartini
Roman Emperor Augustus, Palazzo Massimo, Rome
Posted by Hammer (Member # 17003) on :
You cannot argue with these idiots on this. The lights might be on but nobody is at home.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by Just call me Jari: ^^^^ blah blah blah.....
Portrait of Roman Emperor Marcus Aurelius, Louvre
Do you see the pink-white skin of Marcus Aurelius? OOO, he is just so pink -white like yous..
ROFLMAO!!!
Here is the coinage issued by Marcus Aurelius with his own wooly haired image. No neanderthal animal hair...original black Roman Nigritae
How many black Roman Emperors have I just shown you.
Before now your Cagothic arse thought I was just talking about Septimius Severus and his family.
Pink ass Gwoat..
Sorry Jarri Judas, did that hurt
Lion!
Compare the bust of Marcus Aurelius
With the bust of His Imperial Majesty
And this picture of HIM the King of the Black Dreads!!
Remember the above!
Historical Fact:
The books tell us the following:
The Romans used bleaching cream to make their DARK skin look like Albino skin.
The Romans used to wear straight-animal hair wigs make from the hair of Gothic women, like many black women of today to cover up their curly and nappy hair.
There was never a time in history, when albinos white women were bleaching their skin, or hiding their "curly" locks. Only black women do that today. Roman women did that in their time.
Nevertheless cherry-picked images of some later-day Romans of gothic origins, when one actually does the research himself instead of relying on tertiary sources, the fact cannot be hidden that Romans of those days were mainly dark skin people.
In the Book of Kebra Negasta, the Ethiopian Book of the Kings, it is written that the King of Rome and the King of Ethiopia are brothers.
I never undertood that until I began deeper research and then chanced on the picture of His Imperial Majesty compared with the picture of his majesty Marcus Aurelius.
Look if you have eyes. Search out DNA science...
You will come to the same conclusion.
Lion!
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Sometimes we see Romans with made in straight conked hair style in marble. Like as has been said before, Romans were wont to doing favouring looking like Goths. Before the arrival of Marcus Mosiah Garvey, black men in America used to wear wigs or conk their hairs to appear straight like their Gothic compatriots.
In understanding the Roman pheno-type, it is always necessary to bear in mind that the foundational component of the Romans were African in origin, Ibero-maurisians and Nigri-latinis.
Let us take he case of Emperor Nero.....
Was Nero a Nigri-latini?
Here is Emperor Nero and his mother Agrippina Emperor Nero's Mother. See her curly hair motif?:
Agrippina the Younger, paved the way for her son to become emperor, after poisoning her husband Emperor Claudius.
Another image of Agrippina with her nose blown off??
Black Emperor Diocletian with his nose blown off??
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Black Emperor Diocletian:
Awwwww...
Sorry Jari the pink-gwoat, did that hurt?
Posted by Just call me Jari (Member # 14451) on :
quote:Originally posted by Hammer: You cannot argue with these idiots on this. The lights might be on but nobody is at home.
Yeah, its really really sad how desperate they are to claim European civilization. I don't know if I can even condone Afrocentrism anymore, Its one thing to claim Egypt but to claim Rome, Vikings, Greece, China etc..its just mental illness and inferority complex...Sadly I think Gigantic is right about Afrocentrism.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Black Roman Emperor Valerin:
Awwww...
Sorry Gwoat, did you know about Black Emperor Valerin??
Lion! Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Aemellianus
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Black Roman Emperor Philip the Arab from Ethiopia/Yemen
Emperor Philip
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Black Roman Emperor Severus Alexander
Nubian Emperor of Roman Severus Alexander:
His Highness Severus Alexander
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Black Emperor Geta
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Black Emperor of Rome Karakala
Karakalla in with hair wigs:
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Emperor Perinax...see the curly locks?
Regard
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
A good example of the Romans in wigs:
Emperor Constantin in Wigs... lol! Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Black Emperor Gordian III...nose broken off..hmmm, I wonder why?
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Philosopher King Emperor Marcus Aurelius
Regard the curly locks and beards...imagine the dark olive skin of a true olive
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Hey rat packs... you need more body blows???
Rooooaaaaarrrr!!!!!!!!!!
Lion!
Cornrows of Black Roman Empress Paulita wife of Black Roman Emperor Karakala
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
How many Black Roman Emperors and Empresses so far..counting...
If you rats make more squeak, I will release more pictures.
Lion!
Posted by Hammer (Member # 17003) on :
you pictures prove our point nut.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by Hammer: you pictures prove our point nut.
Dont curse Welder... I am sorry I busted your Roman grandeur illusions.
Next I will expouse on how come the Goths ingritiated their pale arses into the history of Roman Empire by creating the false, fake and very unholy Holy Roman Empire of Charlemange, Charles de Martel, and the rest of the Franki raat-packs..
Keep you posted!
Lion!
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Its hooooot in here:
When the going gets hot and embarrassing like this, Jari the gwoat goes AWOL; Lyingass plays dead; whereas Hammer throws a curse and goes back to his welding job.
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
This is Justin Timberlake's natural hair.
If someone were to make a portrait of him in stone you would say he's black.
That's why no one takes your clowning seriously.
Although there are people who have ambiguous facial features between African and Caucasians there are many Caucasians who do not look ambiguous they look most definitely European.
You have a complete inability to sense that.
forget about the hair, if you can't sense that Europeans, not Africans match the features and forehead of this portrait of Augustus you have a learning disability.
It is clear as day, not even slightly ambiguous.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness: During the second Punic war between Carthage and Rome, two Moorish Numidian kings took different sides, Syphax with Carthage, Masinissa with the Romans, decisively so at Zama.
what's your point?
Dunce
That mural is not from Africa. It was a campaign conducted in central Europe, against the Dacians of Thrace, by Moorish Roman Nigri-Latini cavalry.
They were there to keep out your barbarian Cagothic ancestors, siince those cagots were inflitrating into Roman central Europe from their base in Turkemenistan ...
Lion!
Moorish Roman Cavalry kicking Albino ass!
Dunce
I can hear your loud silence on this one!
Lion!
Dunce
You have no ability to think. Dont dodge issues Why did you make such a boo-boo here and then fled?
Do you know Roman history and just love to photo-spam stupidness?
You did not know that Romans worshipped mainly black men and women as their Gods.
You did not know that Romans bleached. You did not know that Romans wore wigs. You had absolutely no clue that Romans had many black Emperors.
You had no clue that Black Roman dreadlock soldiers were ruling Central and Eastern Europe.
Black Roman soldiers were also the rulers of Britain and the Rhine valley area between Germany and France.
I had to show you all of these. You accepted.
So what is the basis of our engagement?
You are intellectually deficient if you think we have any other issues to discuss.
Go to school or a library and search for some readings on Roman civilization.
I have little stomach to banter banalities with Her Royal Lyinass!
Please go find a kindergarten kid like Jari to exchange sexual tips. Or go do the Jew who does you every night!
Lion!
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness:
This is Justin Timberlake's natural hair.
If someone were to make a portrait of him in stone you would say he's black.
That's why no one takes your clowning seriously.
Although there are people who have ambiguous facial features between African and Caucasians there are many Caucasians who do not look ambiguous they look most definitely European.
You have a complete inability to sense that. ....forget about the hair, if you can't sense that Europeans, not Africans match the features and forehead of this portrait of Augustus you have a learning disability.
It is clear as day, not even slightly ambiguous.
LOL!
The natural and straight animal hair of Justin Timberlake when he is not going to a hair dresser. No hope for lyingass, can you see his real animal hair now. An albino with curly hair was not yet born.
Now Lyinass
Name me the gene that causes curly hair in Albinos? Go ahead dunce, name it?
The one that causes animal hair in Albinos is called THADA. I gave that you you already.
The one that causes pink skin is called defective OCA.
The one that causes coloured eyes and coloured hair is called MC1R.
What is the name of the gene that causes curly hair in Albino Europeans, if any?
Do you use tanning lotions like all Albinos do or do you use BLEACHING CREAM like the Roman women?
Stop playing games and start debatiing!
Lion! Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: Black Emperor Diocletian:
Awwwww...
Sorry Jari the pink-gwoat, did that hurt?
Jari the Gwoat
I cannot hear your bleatings any more. Did you get scared by Black Roman Emperor Diocletian?
And you Lyingass? And the ignorant welder from Texa? Whatz up... where are you doubts???
Sorry, did that hurt? Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: Philosopher King Emperor Marcus Aurelius
Regard the curly locks and beards...imagine the dark olive skin of a true olive
All hailed the Black Emperor of Rome!
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: Roooooaaaaaarrrrrr!
Where are the gwoats and the rats? The pink bwoi faking to be black; The pink-arse dunce with a black woman icon; and the red-neck Professor of Welders from Texas?
They are gone, they are gone...
The IronLion ate them up!
Roooooooaaaaaarrrrrrr!
Laugh out loud.....!!!!! Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
You Albino kids are pathetic in your ignorant and mis-informed state!
Which is why I have made the study of ancient Romans a priority. Because half of that story has barely been told and when shown, it destroys the smug illusions of grandeur nursed by those sick kids.
Look how desperate Lyingass has gotten just to prove a point:
Curly Haired Justin Timerlake ya bloo'clat!
But Justin Timberlake is a straight-haired red-head,(signature of neanderthals), pink boy who would never ever bleach his pink skin so he can look pink, since he is pink already.
The Romans bleached their dark skin and straightened their curly hair. Who does that in today's world?
Lyingass, do you bleach your pink butts???
Pathetic!
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
I wonder where they all went?
The skeptics?
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: I wonder where they all went?
The skeptics?
Compare Emperor Marcus Aurielus litle natty locks with the full lion locks of the Moorish cavalry that ruled central Europe. Here:
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
History of Sicily by Paolo Mazzesi
The history of Sicily begins with the history of Europe, during the upper Paleolithic (20,000 – 10,000 bC): it was populated by peoples of the modern human type. Settlements and new civilizations followed in waves, then followed by new ones over and over: the Phoenician, the Greeks, the Arabs (the Moors)…..
The most ancient Sicilian culture we know is dated around 10,000 bC (as established from rock carvings at Mount Pellegrino), followed by others until in the Eneolithic (Copper age, 3,500-3,000 bC) the island began to be subjected to ever increasing influences by oriental and Mediterranean civilizations.
Sicily used to have a different name before the current one (we would call it Sicania): it originated from the “Sicani” people : anthropologists tell us that the “Sicani” had nothing in common with the “Siculi”, who came later.
The former originated from Libya, and geologists admit they could have come to the western part of the island when a strip of land emerged during glacial eras used to connect Africa to Sicily, therefore these people where of Camitic origin. About 1,000 bC these people were subjugated ed by the Carthaginese. ..........
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Sicani = Iberian-Maures or Ibero-Maurisians = Nigri-Latinis = Black Celts = Moorlachs = Original Black Europeans.
They were there in Europe before the first goth came out from the central Asian caves!
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: History of Sicily by Paolo Mazzesi
The history of Sicily begins with the history of Europe, during the upper Paleolithic (20,000 – 10,000 bC): it was populated by peoples of the modern human type. Settlements and new civilizations followed in waves, then followed by new ones over and over: the Phoenician, the Greeks, the Arabs (the Moors)…..
The most ancient Sicilian culture we know is dated around 10,000 bC (as established from rock carvings at Mount Pellegrino), followed by others until in the Eneolithic (Copper age, 3,500-3,000 bC) the island began to be subjected to ever increasing influences by oriental and Mediterranean civilizations.
Sicily used to have a different name before the current one (we would call it Sicania): it originated from the “Sicani” people : anthropologists tell us that the “Sicani” had nothing in common with the “Siculi”, who came later.
The former originated from Libya, and geologists admit they could have come to the western part of the island when a strip of land emerged during glacial eras used to connect Africa to Sicily, therefore these people where of Camitic origin. About 1,000 bC these people were subjugated ed by the Carthaginese. ..........
Lion, you mean that these people were AFRICANS?????
AMAZING!!!
He, he.
Posted by dana marniche (Member # 13149) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: ^^A few re-constructed images of Roman Emperors out of 400 Roman Emperors... equals white supremacy for you.
But nooo, pink-white supremacy began with the Pink Goths. It is a very recent mental dis-order, associated exclusively with Cagots like you!
Brown Muurish ethnicity was elite and Royalty of Rome.
Goths were outcasts and enemies of Rome.
Same as in Greece. Barbarians and Vandals.
Incorrigible fool. You need to go to school!
Ironlion if u are saying the elites of the Romans were then black u should at least show some proof of it. From, what I understand only a small percent were of partial black African descent such as Honorius (possibly) and that's an opinion just judging from pictures. The Romans and Greeks were called white or "red men" by the Arabs who were at that time a black people. Mostly their physical characteristics and crania were much like modern southern Mediteraneans, north Syrians and Lebanese a predominantly brachycephalic and hyper-brachycephalic hairsute people with fair-skin and prominent, projecting noses. These people were therefore in no way representative of the Moors or black people in North Africa who displayed in fact often displayed hyperdolichocephaly and many other non-European traits. They may have had of course some share of black African blood but the Romans and early Italians were quick to point out that Moors or Mauri "blacks" were different then themselves - the latter being an "Ethiopian" race. What u and Mikey are saying is as ridiculous as some of the stuff on Matilda's site who tries to chang Moors (related to sub-Saharans/East Africans) into Romans and Greeks i.e. modern southern Europeans. Similarly Vikings Goths and Alans and Slavic peoples should not be confused with southern Europeans. I hope one day we all can start to appreciate diversity and the fact that civilizations rise and fall and no one can claim them all.
Posted by dana marniche (Member # 13149) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: History of Sicily by Paolo Mazzesi
The history of Sicily begins with the history of Europe, during the upper Paleolithic (20,000 – 10,000 bC): it was populated by peoples of the modern human type. Settlements and new civilizations followed in waves, then followed by new ones over and over: the Phoenician, the Greeks, the Arabs (the Moors)…..
The most ancient Sicilian culture we know is dated around 10,000 bC (as established from rock carvings at Mount Pellegrino), followed by others until in the Eneolithic (Copper age, 3,500-3,000 bC) the island began to be subjected to ever increasing influences by oriental and Mediterranean civilizations.
Sicily used to have a different name before the current one (we would call it Sicania): it originated from the “Sicani” people : anthropologists tell us that the “Sicani” had nothing in common with the “Siculi”, who came later.
The former originated from Libya, and geologists admit they could have come to the western part of the island when a strip of land emerged during glacial eras used to connect Africa to Sicily, therefore these people where of Camitic origin. About 1,000 bC these people were subjugated ed by the Carthaginese. ..........
Lion, you mean that these people were AFRICANS?????
AMAZING!!!
He, he.
No - in fact Mike, he is trying to blend the African Negroid or black individual you have displayed here with the European population that later occupied similar areas - much like lyin_ss has done thruout its postings. The skeletons of this gracile African Negro type (probably represented today by modern Tibu and Haratin) found on Malta and other places in neolithic and early Bronze Age Europe are referred to in early sources as the "gracile Mediterranean type" or "Eurafrican" in attempts to confuse the issue of who the predominant populations were in pre-Iron age Europe - something both lovers of Africa and Afronuts are also apparently trying to do for some odd and inconceivable reason.
Why try to pretend that later civilizations of Greeks and Romans after a certain period were African when in fact it is clear that they were predominantly European in culturally and biologically.
Malta and pre-Hellenic and pre-iron populations of Greece, Italy, and the Islands of the Aegean were occupied by gracile Negroes but by the period of classical history these groups of dolichocephalic people with black skins were NOT the dominant nor the ruling populations in that region. I am very glad u posted this photo which Europeans academia used to try to hide, but otherwise Let's be FOR REAL!
Posted by dana marniche (Member # 13149) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: Black Emperor of Rome Karakala
Karakalla in with hair wigs:
Wow! you've gone Edmund on us Iron. How the heck can you say for sure that this guy who looks pure Southern Italian IS A BLACK! Yes everyone can see some of the people you have posted have black blood as they should living so close to Afria, but if we are going to start saying Italians are blacks then u better be ready to join lyin_ass snake and Matilda say all of the people in the Middle East represented blacks too.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by dana marniche:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: ^^A few re-constructed images of Roman Emperors out of 400 Roman Emperors... equals white supremacy for you.
But nooo, pink-white supremacy began with the Pink Goths. It is a very recent mental dis-order, associated exclusively with Cagots like you!
Brown Muurish ethnicity was elite and Royalty of Rome.
Goths were outcasts and enemies of Rome.
Same as in Greece. Barbarians and Vandals.
Incorrigible fool. You need to go to school!
Ironlion if u are saying the elites of the Romans were then black u should at least show some proof of it. From, what I understand only a small percent were of partial black African descent such as Honorius (possibly) and that's an opinion just judging from pictures. The Romans and Greeks were called white or "red men" by the Arabs who were at that time a black people. Mostly their physical characteristics and crania were much like modern southern Mediteraneans, north Syrians and Lebanese a predominantly brachycephalic and hyper-brachycephalic hairsute people with fair-skin and prominent, projecting noses. These people were therefore in no way representative of the Moors or black people in North Africa who displayed in fact often displayed hyperdolichocephaly and many other non-European traits. They may have had of course some share of black African blood but the Romans and early Italians were quick to point out that Moors or Mauri "blacks" were different then themselves - the latter being an "Ethiopian" race. What u and Mikey are saying is as ridiculous as some of the stuff on Matilda's site who tries to chang Moors (related to sub-Saharans/East Africans) into Romans and Greeks i.e. modern southern Europeans. Similarly Vikings Goths and Alans and Slavic peoples should not be confused with southern Europeans. I hope one day we all can start to appreciate diversity and the fact that civilizations rise and fall and no one can claim them all.
Dana
Thanks for your interest in the discussion. Lets talk candidly here.
I like it when people come at me all sure of themselves. A few clarifications please:
How did you get your understanding that the black people in Rome were a tiny minority? Reliable source?...not Gibbons or Toynebee two damned racists.
What happended to the foundational black population of Europe? Did they all die off?
What then happened to the Sicanis, and the Ibero-Maurisians, and the Celts? Did they all die off?
What happended to the Etruscans? Did they all die off?
And the Catheginians, were they all exterminated by this your famous brachycephalic type you reference?
What is the predominant skull type dug up from Roman cemetries?
Did the Romans bleach? Did they use wigs and hair straightners? In massive quantity?
How many black Roman Emperors were there in all?
Please provide me with sources and common sense analysis when you respond.
Lion!
Do you know the Silures of England?
Do you
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Dana
I take the time to gather some basic evidence of a historical black population of substantive size as the aborigines of Europe.
What happened to those guys?
If there were extensively in southern Europe, the Aegeans, Asia Minor, why would Rome be any different given that I just posted historical facts on the Sicani of Sicily?
Why should Rome be different than Greece, than Malta, than the Minoans, than the Iberians, when it was centre in the same area?
What makes you want single out Rome as an exception to the rule?
Here:
Evidence of Substantial Black African Population in Portugal:
Source: Tissue Antigens, Volume 66, Number 1, July 2005, pp. 26-36(11)
Publisher: Blackwell Publishing
Abstract:
The human leukocyte antigen-A (HLA-A), -B and -DRB1 polymorphism was examined in the Portuguese population, discriminating between North, Centre and South inhabitants. All data were obtained at high-resolution level, using sequence-based typing.
The most frequent allele at each locus was A* 020101 (26%), B* 440301 and B* 510101 (12% each) and DRB1* 070101 (15%). The predominant three-locus haplotype was A*020101-B*440301-DRB1*070101 (3.1%), highly frequent in North Portugal (5.4%), lower in Centre (2%) and absent in the South.
The present study demonstrates that the Portuguese population has been genetically influenced by Europeans and Africans, via several historic immigrations. North Portugal seems to concentrate, … an ancient genetic pool originated from several … Africans and Europeans, influences throughout millenniums. (Editor’s Note: See articles - The African Kings of Spain, and The African Roots of Spain : to get a good background context of African immigration to the Iberian Pennisula @Rastalivewire.com)
Evidence of Substantial Historical Black African Population Greece
HLA genes allele distribution has been studied in Mediterranean and sub-Saharan populations. Their relatedness has been tested by genetic distances, neighbour-joining dendrograms and correspondence analyses.
The population genetic relationships have been compared with the history of the classical populations living in the area. A revision of the historic postulates would have to be undertaken, particularly in the cases when genetics and history are overtly discordant. HLA genomics shows that: 1) Greeks share an important part of their genetic pool with sub-Saharan Africans (Ethiopians and west Africans) also supported by Chr 7 Markers.
The gene flow from Black Africa to Greece may have occurred in Pharaonic times or when Saharan people emigrated after the present hyperarid conditions were established (5000 years B.C.).
Evidence of a Substantial Black African Population in Europe Neolithic
Neolithic graves in Europe and Africa highlight the African origin of the Grimaldi and hence Africas claim to Europe. Archeologists working in this field have repeatedly denoted the racial and morphological similarities between the early settlers of Europe and those of the African continent.
It has been observed in respect of those graves that they are constructed on similar lines, and the great majority of the skeletons they contain are remarkablefor their uniformity of typeť.
So strikingť, writes Professor Elliot Smith, is the family likeness between the early Neolithic peoples of the British Isles and the Mediterranean and the bulk of the population, both ancient and modern, of Egypt and East Africa, that the description of the bones of an Early Briton of that remote epoch might apply in all essential details to an inhabitant of Somaliland.(The Ancient Egyptians, p. 58.)
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by dana marniche:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: Black Emperor of Rome Karakala
Karakalla in with hair wigs:
Wow! you've gone Edmund on us Iron. How the heck can you say for sure that this guy who looks pure Southern Italian IS A BLACK! Yes everyone can see some of the people you have posted have black blood as they should living so close to Afria, but if we are going to start saying Italians are blacks then u better be ready to join lyin_ass snake and Matilda say all of the people in the Middle East represented blacks too.
Dana
For a lady who makes claims to serious scholarship, you can sound quite flippant and imponderous.
You think I am impressed by the Mathilda slur? No, Dana, if researchers like us had not demonstrated the Moorish history of Africa anad Europe, no one else will tell our story.
To you the Moors are just the Dawasir of Arabia.. Mike would call them sand-niggers. To seasoned and informed researchers, the Moors were extant in Europe and Africa, before the first sand-nigger had a hasish induced dream about Allah's paradise.
We are the Moors Dana, and I do not need permission from a pinkie to accept that. That is my history. We built Europe. From Egypt, to Phoenicia, to Carthage, to the Caspians of Libya and Nigeria, to the Ibero-Maurisians, the negritos, the black Latinis and the Morlachs. Go read up on those people first before making thoughtless and snide remarks.
We were the first in Europe, archeology and history tells you that.
Now, Karakala was the son of an African called Septimus Severus.
The coins of Septimus Severus issued in his life time shows his physical profile with the classic grape-cluster wooly hair used in art to identify people of African descent.
There are so many coins of Septimus Severus and his son Karakala that if you bothered to go look through them yourself instead of relying on hearsay, you would be less hasty in dropping snide comments.
Because if I am proven right, then how sorry you would indeed look with those unthought comments.
Another thing to understand is that like the statutes of Buddah, the statutes of the Roman Emperors tended to vary in rpofile depending on the agenda. Recall they were living Gods like Buddah, so giving them a local slant was never considered dishonest.
There are thousands of images of Karakalla as an undisputed black man. If his father and mother were black people, then what would you have?
Do you realize that Karakala was blood brothers with Severus Alexander? Do you think Severus was also sothern Italian?
It is better we know what we are talking about, before arrogantly spouting the wrong meditations only to end up looking more like Lioness than the true scholar you aim to be.
Look before you leap. Especially with Moorish history, cause you will be left flat faced on the floor.
Lion!
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Dana, I have more readings for you about early European history and the proportion of Africans in demographic makeup. Why will be Rome different than other southern European climes?:
Here Read:
The Grimaldi was not the only Black African nation to have migrated, dominated and civilized Europe in many fundamental ways. Around 8,500 BC, it is speculated that Iberia (Spain and Portugal) were occupied by the Iberian Capsin culture and France was occupied by the early Tardendsain (Tardenoisian) culture. These cultural strains belonged to a group of cultures extant at that time in Africa that had migrated north through Spain.
The Iberian culture, which arrived in Spain, (from Africa) is the root of the present day Basque culture found in Spain, and France. The peoples of the Iberian culture eventually mixed with the Celts to become the Celt-Iberian Culture. Neolithic Iberian (recent African immigrants), small dark and long-headed people also inhabited Wales and Cornwall.
Then there were other major migratory initiatives by later pre-dynastic Egyptians and Ethiopians, which led to the establishment of colonies in pre-Hellenic Greek and Etruscan territories (Italy). These later developed into the great Empires of the Mediterranean, of which history, culture and origin, modern day Europe is so adept at distorting.
Furthermore, the Egyptians (original Anus from Sudan), Phoenicians (Africans originally from Punt by the Red sea coast of Africa), and Ethiopians (the most ancient nation in Africa) also established colonies in England, and Ireland where they mined important mineral like tin. They had numerous settlements therein for hundreds of years and they made essential impact on the demographic make up of the British Isles.
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Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by dana marniche:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: Black Emperor of Rome Karakala
Karakalla in with hair wigs:
Wow! you've gone Edmund on us Iron. How the heck can you say for sure that this guy who looks pure Southern Italian IS A BLACK! Yes everyone can see some of the people you have posted have black blood as they should living so close to Afria, but if we are going to start saying Italians are blacks then u better be ready to join lyin_ass snake and Matilda say all of the people in the Middle East represented blacks too.
More images of Karakala:
Emperor Karakala the Black Emperor of Rome:
Eternal Statute of Karakalla from Egypt, nose and lips broken? hmmm...
Karakalla
Karakala
Dana, do you still think that Caracalla looks like some "southern Italian"?
Roooooaaaaarrrrr! Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Dana
This is Septimus Severus Karakalla's Daddy. Does he look Southern Italian to you in this profile? Emperor Severus, that was one true Maure!
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by dana marniche: [QUOTE]
More images of Karakala:
Emperor Karakala the Black Emperor of Rome:
Eternal Statute of Karakalla from Egypt, nose and lips broken? hmmm...
Eternal Statute of Karakalla from Kemit the eternal
Karakalla
Roman era maurish woman....
Dana, do you still think that Caracalla looks like some "southern Italian"?
Roooooaaaaarrrrr!
Black Roman Emperor Pius Antonius 138 - 166 AD
Black Emperor Septimus Severus..any skeptics???
Karakalla again. Dana this is your Southern Italians?? Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
For those still in doubt, here r Albinos white bois:
Pink skin
Straight-neanderthal hair
Coloured eyes
Now where is the loony tunes gang of Lioness and Jaro the pinkass Judas?
Are you guys hiding still??? Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: History of Sicily by Paolo Mazzesi
The history of Sicily begins with the history of Europe, during the upper Paleolithic (20,000 – 10,000 bC): it was populated by peoples of the modern human type. Settlements and new civilizations followed in waves, then followed by new ones over and over: the Phoenician, the Greeks, the Arabs (the Moors)…..
The most ancient Sicilian culture we know is dated around 10,000 bC (as established from rock carvings at Mount Pellegrino), followed by others until in the Eneolithic (Copper age, 3,500-3,000 bC) the island began to be subjected to ever increasing influences by oriental and Mediterranean civilizations.
Sicily used to have a different name before the current one (we would call it Sicania): it originated from the “Sicani” people : anthropologists tell us that the “Sicani” had nothing in common with the “Siculi”, who came later.
The former originated from Libya, and geologists admit they could have come to the western part of the island when a strip of land emerged during glacial eras used to connect Africa to Sicily, therefore these people where of Camitic origin. About 1,000 bC these people were subjugated ed by the Carthaginese. ..........
Lion, you mean that these people were AFRICANS?????
AMAZING!!!
He, he.
Right on Mike...
I know you have more pictures, facts and artefacts just feel free to let them flow... Teach!
Lion!
Posted by A Simple Girl (Member # 18316) on :
I don't believe the Romans were white. They were just a bunch of green men and women from the planet Mars. Prove me wrong.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Dana and Lion - You both have broached an area that I have been content to leave alone. That is quantifying the Black presence in Europe post White invasion.
There is ample evidence, both artifactual and written, of a Black presence in Europe, well into the medieval period. But the White mans propensity for lying and falsifying data, to me, makes the task of quantifying it impossible.
However, there are a few interesting things to consider on the subject.
We know that the Hellenes and the Latins were the first Whites in southern Europe. But interestingly, their descendants are all but extinct in modern Europe. Today's Europeans are Germanic's, Slav's, and Turks, all of which are post 600 A.D. or more succinctly, their presence is of the MODERN era. So lacking the data that Whites will never release, who can say what the racial make-up of post invasion, ancient Europe was really like?
In Britain, the indigenous Black peoples were almost completely wiped out by the invading Anglo-Saxon's (a Germanic tribe). Whether this was due to genocide or Apartheid is argued in the study "Evidence for an apartheid-like social structure in early Anglo-Saxon England."
Quote: Reproductive isolation and differential social status along ethnic lines is a frequent, temporary consequence of conquest and settlement, the best-known modern case being the Apartheid system in South Africa. In the post-Roman period, intermarriage between dominant immigrants and subject natives was banned in Visigothic France and Spain in the late fifth and early sixth century (King 1972). The Normans in eleventh- and twelfth-century England operated a conquest society in which the native English and Welsh had a lower legal status than Normans (Garnett 1985), and intermarriage, where it happened, was predominantly unidirectional, i.e. Norman men marrying English women. In Anglo-Saxon England, elements of an apartheid-like society can also be perceived in a Wessex law code of the seventh century which distinguishes clearly between Saxons and ‘Welsh’ (Britons) and gives the former a significantly higher legal status, some two centuries after the initial immigration (Whitelock 1979). Archaeological and skeletal data (Härke 1990, 1992), as well as textual evidence (Woolf 2004), have been used to suggest a situation of limited intermarriage between immigrant Anglo-Saxons and native Britons until the seventh century when this distinction began to break down.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
^^More on the history of the Black Britons and the brutish Albinos Anguulus:
English and Welsh are races apart Sunday, 30 June, 2002, 15:31 GMT 16:31 UK
Map of England and Wales reflected in genes - Gene scientists claim to have found proof that the Welsh are the “true” Britons.
The research supports the idea that Celtic Britain underwent a form of ethnic cleansing by Anglo-Saxons invaders following the Roman withdrawal in the fifth century.
Genetic tests BBC
Genetic tests show clear differences between the Welsh and English.
It suggests that between 50% and 100% of the indigenous population of what was to become England was wiped out, with Offa’s Dyke acting as a “genetic barrier” protecting those on the Welsh side.
And the upheaval can be traced to this day through genetic differences between the English and the Welsh.
Academics at University College in London comparing a sample of men from the UK with those from an area of the Netherlands where the Anglo-Saxons are thought to have originated found the English subjects had genes that were almost identical.
But there were clear differences between the genetic make-up of Welsh people studied.
The research team studied the Y-chromosome, which is passed almost unchanged from father to son, and looked for certain genetic markers.
Ethnic links: Many races share common bonds
They chose seven market towns mentioned in the Domesday Book of 1086 and studied 313 male volunteers whose paternal grandfather had also lived in the area.
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They then compared this with samples from Norway and with Friesland, now a northern province of the Netherlands.
The English and Frisians studied had almost identical genetic make-up but the English and Welsh were very different.
The researchers concluded the most likely explanation for this was a large-scale Anglo-Saxon invasion, which devastated the Celtic population of England, but did not reach Wales.
Dr Mark Thomas, of the Centre for Genetic Anthropology at UCL, said their findings suggested that a migration occurred within the last 2,500 years.
Genetic links
It reinforced the idea that the Welsh were the true indigenous Britons.
In April last year, research for a BBC programme on the Vikings revealed strong genetic links between the Welsh and Irish Celts and the Basques of northern Spain and south France.
It suggested a possible link between the Celts and Basques, dating back tens of thousands of years.
The UCL research into the more recent Anglo-Saxon period suggested a migration on a huge scale.
“It appears England is made up of an ethnic cleansing event from people coming across from the continent after the Romans left,” he said.
Celtic Britons
Archaeologists after the Second World War rejected the traditionally held view that an Anglo-Saxon invasion pushed the indigenous Celtic Britons to the fringes of Britain.
Instead, they said the arrival of Anglo-Saxon culture could have come from trade or a small ruling elite.
But the latest research by the UCL team, “using genetics as a history book”, appears to support the original view of a large-scale invasion of England.
It suggests that the Welsh border was more of a genetic barrier to the Anglo-Saxon Y chromosome gene flow than the North Sea.
Dr Thomas added: “Our findings completely overturn the modern view of the origins of the English.”
The unholy Holy Roman Empire founded by the Pontifex Maximus of the Goths and the Vandals, 400 years after the collapse of the western roman empire.
Many people confuse this fake Rome with the ancient Roman empire and conflate the two ethnicities.
Read time line:
350: the Roman empire allows the Franks to settle in Belgium 406: as Vandals invade Gaul, the Franks expand in southern Belgium 407: Gebicca becomes leader of the Burgundians 413: the Burgundians settle on the left bank of the Rhine as "foederati" with capital in Worms 435: the Burgundians led by Gundahar invade Belgium 436: the Romans and the Huns attack the Burgundians and kill Gundahar 443: the Romans settle the Burgundians in Savoy 447: Merovech (Meerwig) establishes the Merovingian dynasty among the Franks 457: the Burgundi seize Lyons 480: Frank king Childeric dies and the Frank capital is in Rheims 481: Clovis becomes king of the Franks 486: Franks led by Clovis I (Chlodovech) conquer northern Gaul from the Romans and drive the Visigoths into Spain 496: Clovis converts the Franks to catholicism 507: Clovis defeats the Visigoths, kills their king Alaric II, and takes their French lands, including Aquitaine 510: Clovis moves the Frankish capital to Paris 511: Clovis dies and his kingdom is divided among his four sons, thus creating the kingdoms of Austrasia (eastern France and southwestern Germany) and Neustria (Paris and northern France) 531: the Franks conquer the Thuringians 534: the Franks conquer the Burgundians 536: the Franks conquer Provence from the Ostrogoths 555: the Franks conquer the Bavarians 628: count Pepin I becomes the Austrasian "major domi" (mayor of the palace) 638: the Merovingian king Dagobert is the first king to be buried at the monastery of Saint-Denis, which then becomes the royal abbey church 687: Pepin's son Pepin II becomes the Austrasian mayor of the palace and conquers Neustria, reuniting the two kingdoms 712: a Berber army under Tariq ibn Ziyad conquers southern Spain from the Visigoths and Cordoba becomes the residence of the Arab governor 714: Pepin II dies and Pepin's son, Charles Martel, becomes mayor of the palace 718: Pelayo unites with the Visigothic leaders who have been defeated by Tariq, and creates the kingdom of Asturias in northwestern Spain, thus creating the kingdom of Leon 720: the Arabs capture Narbonne 725: the Arabs capture Carcassonne 732: the Muslim invasion of Europe is stopped by Charles Martel at the battle of Tours 737: the Arabs capture Provence 741: Charles Martel dies and his kingdom is divided between his sons Carloman (Austrasia) and Pippin (the rest), while Bavaria and Aquitaine are de facto independent 743: Pepin and Carloman elect Childeric III to king of the Franks 747: Carloman becomes a Montecassino monk and Pepin III becomes the sole ruler of the Franks 751: The Carolingian mayor Pepin III deposes Childeric III and appoints himself king of the Franks, thus ending the Merovingian dynasty and uniting Neustria, Austrasia and Burgundy 752: the Franks under Pippin expel the Arabs from Provence 754: pope Stephen II anoints Pepin III king of the Franks 756: Pepin III defeats the Lombards and conquers Ravenna but leaves the conquered territories to the Pope, thereby founding the Papal State and establishing a temporal power for the Pope 759: the Muslim army is expelled from France 768: Pepin III dies and Charlemagne becomes king of the Franks, with capital in Aachen 774: the Franks under Charlemagne annex the Lombards 777: Charlemagne builds a palace at Aix-la-Chapelle 778: Charlemagne attacks the Muslims and invades northeastern Spain 778: Charlemagne attacks the Muslims and invades northeastern Spain but is defeated (Roland is defeated at Roncesvalles) 781: Charlemagne places his son Louis on the throne of Aquitaine 785: Charlemagne conquers the pagan Saxons in Germany and the Elbe river becomes the frontier between Germans and Slavs 788: Charlemagne conquers Bavaria 796: Charlemagne conquers the Avars (Pannonia) and establishes the East March (Ostmark or Osterreich) that gets colonized by Germans from Bavaria 800: the Pope crowns Charles emperor of the Holy Roman Empire.....
Under the Roman power the Latins had the status of socii (i.e. allies), which gave them great inner autonomy. After the so called Social war in 90-89 BC they obtained the rights of Roman citizens and subsequently all the people originating from Italy and speaking Latin as their mother thongue appealed themselves Romans. In 211 the Constitutio Antoniana de Civitate granted Roman citizenship to all the people under the rule of Rome. Since then the term Roman became a designation of a political community and as such went beyond the primary ethnic frames. It was applied to Celts, Iberians, Daco-Thracians and Illyrians who have abandoned their own languages for Latin and in this manner were completely assimilated, but also to the Greeks in the Eastern provinces who, though preserving their Greek language, adopted the name of Romans (in Greek Rhômaíoi) as a mark of their rise to political predominance in the state affairs of the East.
But who are the latins? Are they one people, one tribe, one racial group? Read on:
The Latins were (a so-called) Indo-European people of the Italic branch who about the beginning of the 1st millenium BC have been settled in Central Italy, in a country south of the banks of the Tiber that was called Latium (modern Lazio).
But who is "Indo". Forget the European part for now.
Indo could mean an indian from the sub-continent. In the time of ancient Rome the word Indo was sometimes used to describe Africans from the continent or from Europe. Indo became a term that was loosely applied to all peoples of colour.
One thing is settled though. The word Indo indicates that the subject was not of pink-white colour. Often ethnic, potentially an African or a Dravidian.
Who was European, well..we have proven beyond doubt that the original owners of Europe were black people. Maures. The others came in much later including the pinks, the muslims, etc.
So when you hear indo-european? Think again.
Indo-european was not a tribal group. It is not racial. It is a network of related languages.
Modern linguists have continually demonstrated the linkages between African languages and those found on the Indian sub-continent. There are more associated words and sounds between African languages and Indian languages than exist between Indian languages and European languages.
Anyone in doubt can just begin by sounding out the names of Indian states in modern India and comparing those names with African and European place names. There is no doubt that cognates occur more between Africa and India, than between either with present day Europe.
Thus, we are not even certain that the language category called indo-european really did exist as linguist have up to date be unable to demonstrate the existence of a proto-indo-european language. The gaps are too many.
So when you hear Indo-European, realize that it is time to begin decoding words.
Lion!
Posted by dana marniche (Member # 13149) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: Dana
This is Septimus Severus Karakalla's Daddy. Does he look Southern Italian to you in this profile? Emperor Severus, that was one true Maure!
OK - Iron. You have won. I agree now with you and Mathilda. Romans and Italians are the blacks i.e. "Mauri" of both Europe and NORTH AFRICA and in fact SPAIN.
I disagree, however, when you say I say the Dawasir are the only Moors. In fact if you read Dr. Van Sertima's - Golden Age of the Moor, Fall 1991 - you will see where I talked about almost nothing but the black African roots of the Moors i.e. Berbers, Fulani, Mande, Nilo-Saharans, etc. who arrived in Muslim Spain mainly after the 10th century after the Arican Arabians who were THE PREDOMINANT PORTION OF THE MOORS BEFORE THAT TIME.
Funny thing though - I don't quite remember getting anything from you back then - unless of course u are J.A. Rogers or Frank Snowden. Or maybe ur just Diodorus, one of those black Sicilian MOORS of Etruscan descent! Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
From Brother Runoko Rashidi:
Ancient African people, sometimes called Moors, are known to have had a significant presence and influence in early Rome. African soldiers, specifically identified as Moors, were actively recruited for Roman military service and were stationed in Britain, France, Switzerland, Austria, Hungary, Poland and Romania. Many of these Africans rose to high rank. Lusius Quietus, for example, was one of Rome's greatest generals and was named by Roman Emperor Trajan as his successor. He is described as a "man of Moorish race and considered the ablest soldier in the Roman army."
For most of the second century Africans dominated the intellectual life of Rome. By the end of the second century nearly a third of the Roman senate was of African origin. St. Victor I became the first African bishop of Rome in 189 C.E. and reigned until 199 C.E. Victor I, the first pope known to have had dealings with the imperial household, is described as "the most forceful of the 2nd-century popes."
Emperor Lucius Septimius Severus, the most distinguished of the African emperors of Rome, reigned from 193 to 211, and was born at Leptis Magna on the North African coast. Marcus Opellius Macrinus, Emperor of Rome for fourteen months, "was a Moor by birth." St. Miltiades, a Black priest from Africa, was elected the thirty-seventh pope in 311 C.E. Under Miltiades the Roman persecution of Christians ceased. The third African pope, St. Gelasius I, governed as pope from 492 to 496 C.E.
Quintus Septimius Florens Tertullian, another African, was the first of the Church writers to make Latin the language of Christianity. Other Africans included the playwright Publius Terentius Afer. It is to Terence that we owe the expression, "I am a man, and reckon nothing human is alien to me."
SOURCES: Rome And Africa, by Susan Raven African Presence In Early Europe, Edited by Ivan Van Sertima
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by dana marniche:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: Dana
This is Septimus Severus Karakalla's Daddy. Does he look Southern Italian to you in this profile? Emperor Severus, that was one true Maure!
OK - Iron. You have won. I agree now with you and Mathilda. Romans and Italians are the blacks i.e. "Mauri" of both Europe and NORTH AFRICA and in fact SPAIN.
I disagree, however, when you say I say the Dawasir are the only Moors. In fact if you read Dr. Van Sertima's - Golden Age of the Moor, Fall 1991 - you will see where I talked about almost nothing but the black African roots of the Moors i.e. Berbers, Fulani, Mande, Nilo-Saharans, etc. who arrived in Muslim Spain mainly after the 10th century after the Arican Arabians who were THE PREDOMINANT PORTION OF THE MOORS BEFORE THAT TIME.
Funny thing though - I don't quite remember getting anything from you back then - unless of course u are J.A. Rogers or Frank Snowden. Or maybe ur just Diodorus, one of those black Sicilian MOORS of Etruscan descent!
Dana I hope you take the time to read and reflect:
It takes a very prominent and rich aristocrat, to commission the kind of life-like statute done of this Mauri of Rome.
Even today, not very many of us can afford to commission such expensive piece of art work.
Who then is the face immortalized below which was discovered in Rome?
A fulani moor..according to Dana?
Or a Mauro-Romano...according to the authorities?
Is the moor below some nameless fulani tribal, or could he have been one of the arbiters of life and death in ancient Rome?
Was he a high official? From a patrician family?
Have you heard of the great and famous Nigrinus family of Rome?
Posted by dana marniche (Member # 13149) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Dana and Lion - You both have broached an area that I have been content to leave alone. That is quantifying the Black presence in Europe post White invasion.
There is ample evidence, both artifactual and written, of a Black presence in Europe, well into the medieval period. But the White mans propensity for lying and falsifying data, to me, makes the task of quantifying it impossible.
However, there are a few interesting things to consider on the subject.
We know that the Hellenes and the Latins were the first Whites in southern Europe. But interestingly, their descendants are all but extinct in modern Europe. Today's Europeans are Germanic's, Slav's, and Turks, all of which are post 600 A.D. or more succinctly, their presence is of the MODERN era. So lacking the data that Whites will never release, who can say what the racial make-up of post invasion, ancient Europe was really like?
In Britain, the indigenous Black peoples were almost completely wiped out by the invading Anglo-Saxon's (a Germanic tribe). Whether this was due to genocide or Apartheid is argued in the study "Evidence for an apartheid-like social structure in early Anglo-Saxon England."
Quote: Reproductive isolation and differential social status along ethnic lines is a frequent, temporary consequence of conquest and settlement, the best-known modern case being the Apartheid system in South Africa. In the post-Roman period, intermarriage between dominant immigrants and subject natives was banned in Visigothic France and Spain in the late fifth and early sixth century (King 1972). The Normans in eleventh- and twelfth-century England operated a conquest society in which the native English and Welsh had a lower legal status than Normans (Garnett 1985), and intermarriage, where it happened, was predominantly unidirectional, i.e. Norman men marrying English women. In Anglo-Saxon England, elements of an apartheid-like society can also be perceived in a Wessex law code of the seventh century which distinguishes clearly between Saxons and ‘Welsh’ (Britons) and gives the former a significantly higher legal status, some two centuries after the initial immigration (Whitelock 1979). Archaeological and skeletal data (Härke 1990, 1992), as well as textual evidence (Woolf 2004), have been used to suggest a situation of limited intermarriage between immigrant Anglo-Saxons and native Britons until the seventh century when this distinction began to break down.
Well I am glad you are not broaching this area Mike, because frankly I myself have little interest in it. As anyone can see the bulk of the coins posted by Iron that he calls "black" are represented by todays southern Italians in Europe and probably some of the people along the coasts of North Africa where they settled among the Moors.
Modern Mediterraneans are brachycranic people easily distinguishable from blacks although as I have said and will concede many of them probably have some recent or ancient black African blood. I am not going to sit down any longer and argue about the fact that Romans and Moors (blacks) were not the same people. If the descendents of iron age Romans and Greeks were predominantly blacks, they would not have been considered "whites" by early Islamic blacks. PERIOD! Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Now, now, Dana. Let's not be too hasty. Lion has made a case for a multi-racial post invasion Europe. But he has not satisfactorily made the case that the Romans were Black.
He also correctly explained that Indo-European does not mean what people have been led to believe it means.
Picture time:
In this picture, the White woman is the royal.
In this picture the deities are Blacks.
In this picture, we have a mixed-race couple.
In this picture, we have a White and two mulattoes. I have no way of knowing which was dominant.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
The African Moors and the European Moors were differentiated by Roman texts:
Here read:
An original brass military diploma which dates from the middle of the second century A.D mentions Moorish soldiers in Moesia,which is modern Serbia.
Another military diploma A.D 158 speakes of Moorish soldiers from Africa in Dacia, or modern Romania, and also of auxiliary troops of the Dacian Moors....
Lion!
Posted by dana marniche (Member # 13149) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by dana marniche:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: Dana
This is Septimus Severus Karakalla's Daddy. Does he look Southern Italian to you in this profile? Emperor Severus, that was one true Maure!
OK - Iron. You have won. I agree now with you and Mathilda. Romans and Italians are the blacks i.e. "Mauri" of both Europe and NORTH AFRICA and in fact SPAIN.
I disagree, however, when you say I say the Dawasir are the only Moors. In fact if you read Dr. Van Sertima's - Golden Age of the Moor, Fall 1991 - you will see where I talked about almost nothing but the black African roots of the Moors i.e. Berbers, Fulani, Mande, Nilo-Saharans, etc. who arrived in Muslim Spain mainly after the 10th century after the Arican Arabians who were THE PREDOMINANT PORTION OF THE MOORS BEFORE THAT TIME.
Funny thing though - I don't quite remember getting anything from you back then - unless of course u are J.A. Rogers or Frank Snowden. Or maybe ur just Diodorus, one of those black Sicilian MOORS of Etruscan descent!
Dana I hope you take the time to read and reflect:
It takes a very prominent and rich aristocrat, to commission the kind of life-like statute done of this Mauri of Rome.
Even today, not very many of us can afford to commission such expensive piece of art work.
Who then is the face immortalized below which was discovered in Rome?
A fulani moor..according to Dana?
Or a Mauro-Romano...according to the authorities?
Is the moor below some nameless fulani tribal, or could he have been one of the arbiters of life and death in ancient Rome?
Was he a high official? From a patrician family?
Have you heard of the great and famous Nigrinus family of Rome?
Why should that be according to me Lion - when I never said it. Everybody knows Roman society had Moors in it and also it is quite possible that some Romans had a mulatto appearance due to absorption of earlier populations. I could care less if blacks were high officials among the Romans I'm sure there were some blond and red haired officials as well but that wouldn't have made them the dominant Romans.
One has to take into consideration that a change in physical type DID OCCUR in these areas which shows that black people were NOT the dominant population in Roman ITALY! Posted by dana marniche (Member # 13149) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: The African Moors and the European Moors were differentiated by Roman texts:
Here read:
An original brass military diploma which dates from the middle of the second century A.D mentions Moorish soldiers in Moesia,which is modern Serbia.
Another military diploma A.D 158 speakes of Moorish soldiers from Africa in Dacia, or modern Romania, and also of auxiliary troops of the Dacian Moors....
Lion!
The ROMAN MOORS CAME FROM AFRICA LION! HOW DOES THAT MAKE THEM DIFFERENT!?
DANA!
Posted by dana marniche (Member # 13149) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Now, now, Dana. Let's not be too hasty. Lion has made a case for a multi-racial post invasion Europe. But he "has not satisfactorily made the case that the Romans were Black".
He also correctly explained that Indo-European does not mean what people have been led to believe it means.
Picture time:
In this picture, the White woman is the royal.
In this picture the deities are Blacks.
In this picture, we have a mixed-race couple.
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In this picture, we have a White and two mulattoes. I have no way of knowing which was dominant.
I agree - but especially with the part that he has not satisfactorily made the case that Roman's were black.
And the picture of the women Roman deities is a keeper. Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
For the avoidance of doubt, I began this thread with a thesis...
That ancient Rome was multi-ethnic, multi-cultural;
That there were substantial and significant population of black people who played a very important role in the politics and society of the Roman Empire.
That there were many black Roman Emperors.
That there many prominent black citizens of Rome, and black people highly figured in its elite class.
That the moors were an ethnic group also in Europe as represented by the Ibero-maurisians, Capsians, Silures, Black Celts, the Nigri-latins, the Morlachs of central and Eastern Europe, and the Sicanis of Sicily.
I believe I have made my point. It is up to the honest reader to continue this research and see where it leads to.
Dana when you talk about ancient Arab authorities designating Romans as white, keep it in context. Remember that Rome in the west was fallen and utterly overrun by the Goths, before the birth of Mohammed and the beginning of pan Arabic Islamism.
Which is to say, by the time of the Arabs, ancient Rome was nomore. The writers were simply describing the Goths they saw there in the 5th and 6th centuries.
It is for persons of logical thinking to consider what has been put forth and decide whether it makes sense or not.
To the prejudiced and the know alls, bring your skepticism, and IronLion will cure it all for you.
Lion!
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by dana marniche:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: The African Moors and the European Moors were differentiated by Roman texts:
Here read:
An original brass military diploma which dates from the middle of the second century A.D mentions Moorish soldiers in Moesia,which is modern Serbia.
Another military diploma A.D 158 speakes of Moorish soldiers from Africa in Dacia, or modern Romania, and also of auxiliary troops of the Dacian Moors....
Lion!
The ROMAN MOORS CAME FROM AFRICA LION! HOW DOES THAT MAKE THEM DIFFERENT!?
DANA!
Dana
Is this matter emotional for you? I pefer to reason with dispassionate observers than with people who are emotionally invested in defending a particular position inspite of undeniable evidence.
Bring your proofs, contradict me... cite those Arab sources you have, but just prove me wrong. No need to yell, no need for snide comments.
Let your authorities and evidence and logic speak for you. Mine are speaking loud and clear....
Lion!
Posted by dana marniche (Member # 13149) on :
OK guess I just got confused by the title "Was Rome black?" and the fact that you point to Romans who look like modern Italians and call them black.
You do have a slight point on the Goth thing but the fact is pre-Islamic Roman historians did distinguish themselves from the Moors i.e. Africans and Arabs by calling them "the blacks" and "the Ethiopians".
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by dana marniche:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: The African Moors and the European Moors were differentiated by Roman texts:
Here read:
An original brass military diploma which dates from the middle of the second century A.D mentions Moorish soldiers in Moesia,which is modern Serbia.
Another military diploma A.D 158 speakes of Moorish soldiers from Africa in Dacia, or modern Romania, and also of auxiliary troops of the Dacian Moors....
Lion!
The ROMAN MOORS CAME FROM AFRICA LION! HOW DOES THAT MAKE THEM DIFFERENT!?
DANA!
Dana
Just like you have blacks from Africa and blacks from America and blacks from Britain in this modern days; so you had moors from Africa, moors from Europe, moors from India, moors from as far as the sea of china.
In Roman times, the Nigri-latinis were the moors of Europe. Aboriginal Europeans.
I answered your questions. I notice you side step my own inquiries...any special reason?
Lion!
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by dana marniche: OK guess I just got confused by the title "Was Rome black?" and the fact that you point to Romans who look like modern Italians and call them black.
You do have a slight point on the Goth thing but the fact is pre-Islamic Roman historians did distinguish themselves from the Moors i.e. Africans and Arabs by calling them "the blacks" and "the Ethiopians".
The title does not read: Was Rome Black?
The title of this thread is: Was Rome White?
Point out who looks like today's Italian that I have posted.
I am not into Photo spamming. All the Emperors I have identified have verifiable histories either as Africans or as black people born outside Africa.
Dont make vauge accusations. That is a low blow. Be specific. I will back up with textual evidence. Come out clean, put your cards on the table and see how they will stack against mine.
Is it Diocletian, or Maximinius, or Severus Alexander that is your problem? I put up their pictures. They are black people. I dare you to tell me that they are Italians if you are sure of your facts and history.
Lion!
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Lion - what you say is for the most part true, I just question the extrapolations.
I am personally resigned to defeat on this one. To me, the White mans inundation of fake artifacts, makes it impossible to make an accurate determination.
example:
These are Gauls/Celts.
But the White man produced these fake artifacts of Gauls/Celts.
So knowing that;
Are THESE also fake artifacts?
They may be fakes, or they may not be. I have no way of knowing; short of a written physical description of them - which MAY one day surface. There are some honest Whites, so you never know what may show up.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by dana marniche:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: ^^A few re-constructed images of Roman Emperors out of 400 Roman Emperors... equals white supremacy for you.
But nooo, pink-white supremacy began with the Pink Goths. It is a very recent mental dis-order, associated exclusively with Cagots like you!
Brown Muurish ethnicity was elite and Royalty of Rome.
Goths were outcasts and enemies of Rome.
Same as in Greece. Barbarians and Vandals.
Incorrigible fool. You need to go to school!
Ironlion if u are saying the elites of the Romans were then black u should at least show some proof of it. From, what I understand only a small percent were of partial black African descent such as Honorius (possibly) and that's an opinion just judging from pictures. The Romans and Greeks were called white or "red men" by the Arabs who were at that time a black people. Mostly their physical characteristics and crania were much like modern southern Mediteraneans, north Syrians and Lebanese a predominantly brachycephalic and hyper-brachycephalic hairsute people with fair-skin and prominent, projecting noses. These people were therefore in no way representative of the Moors or black people in North Africa who displayed in fact often displayed hyperdolichocephaly and many other non-European traits. They may have had of course some share of black African blood but the Romans and early Italians were quick to point out that Moors or Mauri "blacks" were different then themselves - the latter being an "Ethiopian" race. What u and Mikey are saying is as ridiculous as some of the stuff on Matilda's site who tries to chang Moors (related to sub-Saharans/East Africans) into Romans and Greeks i.e. modern southern Europeans. Similarly Vikings Goths and Alans and Slavic peoples should not be confused with southern Europeans. I hope one day we all can start to appreciate diversity and the fact that civilizations rise and fall and no one can claim them all.
Dana
Thanks for your interest in the discussion. Lets talk candidly here.
I like it when people come at me all sure of themselves. A few clarifications please:
How did you get your understanding that the black people in Rome were a tiny minority? Reliable source?...not Gibbons or Toynebee two damned racists.
What happended to the foundational black population of Europe? Did they all die off?
What then happened to the Sicanis, and the Ibero-Maurisians, and the Celts? Did they all die off?
What happended to the Etruscans? Did they all die off?
And the Catheginians, were they all exterminated by this your famous brachycephalic type you reference?
What is the predominant skull type dug up from Roman cemetries?
Did the Romans bleach? Did they use wigs and hair straightners? In massive quantity?
How many black Roman Emperors were there in all?
Please provide me with sources and common sense analysis when you respond.
Lion!
Do you know the Silures of England?
Do you
Dana
If you answered one or two of the questions above, that would be very nice and courteous of you....
That would also put things in perspective.
I am waiting
Lion!
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Lion - what you say is for the most part true, I just question the extrapolations.
I am personally resigned to defeat on this one. To me, the White mans inundation of fake artifacts, makes it impossible to make an accurate determination.
example:
These are Gauls/Celts.
But the White man produced these fake artifacts of Gauls/Celts.
So knowing that;
Are THESE also fake artifacts?
They may be fakes, or they may not be. I have no way of knowing; short of a written physical description of them - which MAY one day surface. There are some honest Whites, you never know what may show up.
Mike
It all comes together when you realize that the theiving Goth has had nearly two thousand years to alter and wipe out Roman history.
They were thorough in their operation.
They came into the ancient civilizations of which custodian Rome was at that very moment. They wanted to become Romans.
They prostituted themselves to Romans, both males and females. They slaved themselves, they inflitrated the capital and after more than 3 centuries, they corroded Rome.
They immediately crowned themselves Roman Emperor, like Alaric the Hun. They became the Roman priests, the Roman builders, and then crashed western Europe into dark ages with their incompetence and inability to learn.
It took another 1400 years for Europe to start to stir again, with culture and learning I place of wars and looting.
They created the Roman catholic church, recall the ancient Romans were pagans.
They created the holy Roman empire.
They have Romance fiction as the reward of life.
Today Russia is called the third Rome, you know why?
The thieving Goths:
They burnt libraries, they killed and tortured priests and priestesses, destroyed temples, and took humanity back 4000 years, hence they were called Vandals!
And they had almost 2000 years to re-write and re-mould the history of Rome.
But many clues remain. Cause the most perfect murders still have mistakes.
BobMarley taught us that 2000 years of history, could not be wiped away so easily.
Only half has been told.
The other half is slowly unravelling....
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
A Roman document, Notitia Dignitatum,which dates from the beginning of the fifth century A.D; mentions several Moorish battalions in the Balkans and Moorish military colony Ad Mauros which was located on the Inn river near Vienna; and in what is modern Beseribia,there was a city called Maurocastrum. The BlackCastle.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Okay, keep digging Lion.
Posted by The Explorer (Member # 14778) on :
Is that guy doing a blowjob on a deer?
Posted by Brada-Anansi (Member # 16371) on :
Explorer Is that guy doing a blowjob on a deer? Oh yuck!! are you sure that's not a Ewe he is suckling?.. Posted by The Explorer (Member # 14778) on :
LOL. I was kidding around; having some fun with the stuff. An interesting scene nonetheless.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Hey guys; Instead of goofing, why not do some digging for something to add to the conversation?
Lion has brought up some good points: Rome already existed as a city BEFORE the Romans. The other name they go by; the Latins. Were a people who Already existed BEFORE the Whites got there. So just WHO were the Whites? And when did they really get there?
I posted some fake White artifacts above, here is another one.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by Hammer: Notice these loons never mention the Brits who were Roman citizens and part of the empire and lived in a Romanized British society for centuries.
The Black Aborigines of Briton
The Wealas
Another circumstance connected with these names which it is desirable to remember is the absence of evidence to show that the Old English ever called any of the darker-complexioned Britons brown men or black men. Their name for them was Wealas (WALES).
PAGE 112, Origins of the Anglo-Saxon Race.
The Silures
The Silures were a powerful and warlike tribe of ancient Britain, occupying approximately the counties of Monmouthshire, Breconshire and Glamorganshire of present day South Wales; and possibly Gloucestershire and Herefordshire of present day England.
According to Tacitus's biography of Agricola, the Silures usually had a dark complexion and curly hair. Due to their appearance, Tacitus hinted that they may have crossed over from Spain at an earlier date....
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Lion - what you say is for the most part true, I just question the extrapolations.
I am personally resigned to defeat on this one. To me, the White mans inundation of fake artifacts, makes it impossible to make an accurate determination.
example:
These are Gauls/Celts.
But the White man produced these fake artifacts of Gauls/Celts.
So knowing that;
Are THESE also fake artifacts?
They may be fakes, or they may not be. I have no way of knowing; short of a written physical description of them - which MAY one day surface. There are some honest Whites, you never know what may show up.
Mike
It all comes together when you realize that the theiving Goth has had nearly two thousand years to alter and wipe out Roman history.
They were thorough in their operation.
They came into the ancient civilizations of which custodian Rome was at that very moment. They wanted to become Romans.
They prostituted themselves to Romans, both males and females. They slaved themselves, they inflitrated the capital and after more than 3 centuries, they corroded Rome.
They immediately crowned themselves Roman Emperor, like Alaric the Hun. They became the Roman priests, the Roman builders, and then crashed western Europe into dark ages with their incompetence and inability to learn.
It took another 1400 years for Europe to start to stir again, with culture and learning I place of wars and looting.
They created the Roman catholic church, recall the ancient Romans were pagans.
They created the holy Roman empire.
They have Romance fiction as the reward of life.
Today Russia is called the third Rome, you know why?
The thieving Goths:
They burnt libraries, they killed and tortured priests and priestesses, destroyed temples, and took humanity back 4000 years, hence they were called Vandals!
And they had almost 2000 years to re-write and re-mould the history of Rome.
But many clues remain. Cause the most perfect murders still have mistakes.
BobMarley taught us that 2000 years of history, could not be wiped away so easily.
Only half has been told.
The other half is slowly unravelling....
In the Middle ages the term Romans was used in Western Europe for making an inner distinction from Germans in the unified body of the Western Christendom. On the other hand, as Latin was the official written language in the matters of church and state, the term Latins was in common use by all Western Christians (whether Romance-, German- or Slavic-speaking nations) as distinguishing between themselves and the peoples from the rest of the world. Thus, the crusaders' states in the East were were given the name Latin. In the official political relations of Western Europe till the 11th c. the appeal of Roman was applied to the Eastern Roman empire (Byzantium), but its factual linguistic Hellenization combined with its power decline, made the Westerners to refer to it as a Greek empire and to its inhabitants as Greeks with a sense of undoubted despise. As a sign of prestige, both the empires of Charlemagne (established AD 800) and of Otho I (established AD 962) were labeled Roman.
^^^^^black people do not have this kind of hair.His hair is thick and irregular
see how this black man has curls that all hang the same way in the same direction.
No "Caracalla" Lucius Septimius Bassianus is not e]even similar to an Ethiopian.
Marcus Samuelsson the famous Ethiopian chef has an oval shape head and Afro type hair as the Ethiopians so.
Caracalla has a squareish type of head, small lips and his hair is not Afro type hair. You can find exceptions separately but If you put these four things together it does not match African descended people.
Caracalla: 1) thick irregular large curled curly hair. the hair clumps in different directions 2) small lips and not a wide mouth opening 3) a squarish shaped head, not narrow, not a long a face 4) the forehead is straighter it doesn't slope back like Marcus
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Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Lioness - You are slipping ever deeper into morbid stupidity. And I respond to your stupidity, only because I'm bored.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Lioness - Please print this out so that you will remember it.
All White people are the Albinos of Black people. Therefore NO phenotype or feature can exist in White people, if it does not already exist in Black people.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Lioness - Please print this out so that you will remember it.
All White people are the Albinos of Black people. Therefore NO phenotype or feature can exist in White people, if it does not already exist in Black people.
LoL!
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by Lyingass: Italian white people or ancient Romans were not albinos. The are typically darker than Northern European white people especially the Southern Italians are darker.
You mean dark like this :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111:
quote:
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Sorry Lyinass, did that hurt???
Lioness do you bleach your "white" butts? Or do you put tanning lotions on them?
The Romans were big on bleaching.... Who is big on bleaching today? Who is big on tanning?
Lion!
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Karakala as immortalized in Africa Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
It this case, lioness is not the only one with vapor-lock. The mentally challenged forget that Whites are the Albino descendants of only ONE type of Black people. So of course, they would be very narrow in their phenotype and features.
With just a little bit of logical thought, it is an easy concept, I don't know what their problem is.
Vapor-locked minds, see if you can follow this. Black Humans have a very Wide variety of phenotypes and features.
Yet Whites have a very NARROW range of features. Yet Mongols have a very NARROW range of features.
If they were naturally evolved Humans, wouldn't they also have a very Wide variety of phenotypes and features, just like Blacks?
On the other hand, if they were simply one type of Blacks: who because of defective genes, came out White, and then they lived apart (Central Asia) and intermarried almost exclusively amongst themselves, for a long time.
Wouldn't they all be White, and ALL look alike?
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
which is a better match this
or this:
Mike I told you. Look at how wide his Johnny Mathis" mouth is. His nose is also much wider than Caracalla, Septimius.
Follow the example I told your scraggly ass that Septimius did not have a wide mouth. Then you go and post a du with a wide mouth. why did you even bother.
Other folks you posted Afro type hair. Septimius had curly hair curled from a straight type hair but black people have kinky hair of a much smaller scale that has no straight foundation.
If you look at Septimius' hair if you look at one of the curls you see at the end of the curl the hair has straight parallel lines. Black people don't have that, we have hair that coils. If it curls it coils all the way through to the end. It dont have that straight part at the end of the curl like white people type curly hair. We also have a much thinner strand
Now you have to go to some 3 year old child from Australia you cant be serious.
At least Ron Isley had a squarish shaped head
then you go posting Shemar Moore? Didn't you learn a damn thing? He has a long type head, most certainly not squarish like Ron Isley and Septimius. Plus he has fro type hair and his mother is Irish and French-Canadian. He is what you constantly call a "mutt" in your ranting and ravings.
What about Ron Isley? I told your dumb ass. Look again dummy:
plus he jeris his hair. Wide nose, wide mouth with full lips, get your eyes checked
I told you you have to match all the traits. Not just find four people each with only one of the traits. So what do you go and do. Exactly that. let me know when you get it together
clip this post and print it out on your wall to remind you of your ongoing failure
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by Lyingass: Italian white people or ancient Romans were not albinos. The are typically darker than Northern European white people especially the Southern Italians are darker.
You mean dark like this
quote:Originally posted by Mike111:
quote:
[b]
Sorry Lyinass, did that hurt???
Lioness do you bleach your "white" butts? Or do you put tanning lotions on them?
The Romans were big on bleaching.... Who is big on bleaching today? Who is big on tanning?
Lion!
Another southern moorish European. (recall the Roman cavalry?) This bust was found either in southern Europe, (Greece or Rome)... Lyingass you can tell us where you lifted it from... Rich Moorish European. Only the rich and important could afford to so immortalize their image. Only a highly skilled, highly paid artist could have built this bust.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: Karakala as immortalized in Africa Compare
Pink Panther
Comments?
Pink Panther, do you bleach your pink butts? Do you use bleaching cream?
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
Iron do have a logic problem?
This:
is damaged beyond recognition and it was not even produced in Rome. The people did not like being ruled by Roman foreigners so they later busted his face.
This takes us right back to the beginning of this thread and sinks you like the Titanic.
Yes the above head is what that Moorish cavalry looked like.
The Romans were not comprised of Moors but they had a cavalry of Moors at one point to fight for their white asses. But other moors like Syphax fought against the Romans who attacked Carthage.
Now ask yourself with this cavalry in mind and the bust of a similar type, The Emperors did not look like this.
Who runs America? The white old boy network. Yet there plenty of blacks in the military. Colin Powell was a four star general and Secretary of State. Now there's a president who is half black with a black wife and kids. To this extent Rome was multi racial.
Caracalla? He was a sick and cruel bastard nobody even in their wannabeism should want to associate with. Look it up
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
This is Bigio Morata, a Greek in Anatolia, late 2nd century B.C.E.
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
If one was to make a point about Rome why would one have to go to Egypt to make that point?
Why is that?
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People of Fayum
Under Greco-Roman rule, Egypt hosted several Greek settlements, mostly concentrated in Alexandria, but also in a few other cities, where Greek settlers lived alongside some seven to ten million native Egyptians. Faiyum's earliest Greek inhabitants were soldier-veterans and cleruchs (elite military officials) who were settled by the Ptolemaic kings on reclaimed lands. Native Egyptians also came to settle in Faiyum from all over the country, notably the Nile Delta, Upper Egypt, Oxyrhynchus and Memphis, to undertake the labor involved in the land reclamation process, as attested by personal names, local cults and recovered papyri. It is estimated that as much as 30 percent of the population of Faiyum was Greek during the Ptolemaic period, with the rest being native Egyptians. By the Roman period, much of the "Greek" population of Faiyum was made-up of either Hellenized Egyptians or people of mixed Egyptian-Greek origins.
While commonly believed to represent Greek settlers in Egypt, the Faiyum portraits instead reflect the complex synthesis of the predominant Egyptian culture and that of the elite Greek minority in the city. According to Walker, the early Ptolemaic Greek colonists married local women and adopted Egyptian religious beliefs, and by Roman times, their descendants were viewed as Egyptians by the Roman rulers, despite their own self-perception of being Greek. The dental morphology[ of the Roman-period Faiyum mummies was also compared with that of earlier Egyptian populations, and was found to be "much more closely akin" to that of ancient Egyptians than to Greeks or other European populations.
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see the paintings that were made in Rome
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
THESE WERE MADE IN EUROPE.
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: This is Bigio Morata, a Greek in Anatolia, late 2nd century B.C.E.
Ironlion had pointed out this head shows a phenotype and hair style very similar to Moorish calvary, I agree. It certainly does not look Roman had busts. If there were blacks in Greece that does not make Greece black anymore than Japan white because some whites live in Japan.
* Possible place made: Turkey * Place made: Provenance not known
# Dates: late 2nd century B.C.E. # Period: Ptolemaic Period
Maybe he was a Turk then?
The Ptolemaic dynasty was Greek rule under the Hellenes, the period in which you said Greece became white. The man's hair style looks similar to a Kushite.
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
Mike sometimes we see what look what like black people in Etruscan paintings. But frequently it's just people that have a medium brown reddish skin tone like these men below:
You can't assume that all such people are black. Yet you do over and over again. You never learn.
Anybody with a suntanned skin tone and or curly hair goes under the black file. Your research method is silly.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Re: Bigio Morata - Greek, Roman, Anatolian, Kushite, they are all possible. Because quite the contrary of false White history, these were all dynamic multi-ethnic, multi-racial cosmopolitan societies. As to who was dominant, I can't say at this time.
Lioness, why can't you ever maintain a sensible conversation?
You really think that those men are pure Albino? Fool that you are, do I also need to remind you that I never called them White or Black. I call them Quadroons, or mixed raced. In North Africa and the middle east, I call them Sand Niggers.
Why are you so stupid?
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Greek, Roman, Anatolian, Kushite, they are all possible. Because quite the contrary of false White history, these were all dynamic multi-ethnic, multi-racial cosmopolitan societies. As to who was dominant, I can't say at this time.
But it becomes semantics. You could say the U.S., Britain, and France are "dynamic multi-ethnic, multi-racial cosmopolitan societies". Is Britain white? Technically it's not white it has many millions of citizens who are not white. So the vagueness of a question like "Is Britain white?" doesn't answer much. Do whites have the vast majority of political power in Britain yes. In ancient Rome, yes. In Ghana and China, no.
Is such and such country white? Is such and such country black? Few counties are absolutely 100% one ethnicity.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness: [QUOTE]But it becomes semantics. You could say the U.S., Britain, and France are "dynamic multi-ethnic, multi-racial cosmopolitan societies". Is Britain white? Technically it's not white it has many millions of citizens who are not white. So the vagueness of a question like "Is Britain white?" doesn't answer much. Do whites have the vast majority of political power in Britain yes. In ancient Rome, yes. In Ghana and China, no.
Is such and such country white? Is such and such country black? Few counties are absolutely 100% one ethnicity.
Lion has presented evidence to support his assertion that they were Black dominated societies. What evidence do you offer to the contrary?
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Re: Bigio Morata - Greek, Roman, Anatolian, Kushite, they are all possible. Because quite the contrary of false White history, these were all dynamic multi-ethnic, multi-racial cosmopolitan societies. As to who was dominant, I can't say at this time.
Lioness, why can't you ever maintain a sensible conversation?
You really think that those men are pure Albino? Fool that you are, do I also need to remind you that I never called them White or Black. I call them Quadroons, or mixed raced. In North Africa and the middle east, I call them Sand Niggers.
Why are you so stupid?
Mike you yourself would say even people who are very light skinned with blond hair are still not "pure albino" so who are you kidding? Nobody uses this term "quadroon" The point is the dark reddish toned people I posted earlier would not be identified as "black". Some Arabs for example look like semi or fully black people but many have dark skin but without African looking features and don't consider themselves black. Some Indians and Asians have African looking features. But many Many Indians and Pakistanis have a dark skin tone and are not considered black or part black
Or Ray Romano who is Southern Italian
So if we are looking at some ancient Etruscans they could be black people or they could be people like the above who are not considered black people yet have dark skin.
Ray Romano is Italian so he probably has a greater chance of being related to an ancient Roman or Etruscan than Musharraf. many people would call him dark skinned white because he does not look like a mulatto in hair type or in facial features.
But you can come up with any name you like but the world does not identify people with a dark skin tone as instantly black. A quadroon is more white than black anyway. So stop making wild guesses. Having beards is not a determining factor either but it's not very African. That should clue you in on making an educated guess.
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness: [QUOTE]But it becomes semantics. You could say the U.S., Britain, and France are "dynamic multi-ethnic, multi-racial cosmopolitan societies". Is Britain white? Technically it's not white it has many millions of citizens who are not white. So the vagueness of a question like "Is Britain white?" doesn't answer much. Do whites have the vast majority of political power in Britain yes. In ancient Rome, yes. In Ghana and China, no.
Is such and such country white? Is such and such country black? Few counties are absolutely 100% one ethnicity.
Lion has presented evidence to support his assertion that they were Black dominated societies. What evidence do you offer to the contrary?
Lion did not say Rome was Black dominated, you trying to use him as a human shield or something?
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Lioness, I am getting the feeling that you are one of those he,he, "less-than-pure-Albinos" who are worried about not being recognized as White.
Fear not, I am not in the business of deciding who should qualify as White. To me, anyone who wants to be White, IS White, regardless of complexion.
My interest is history, and it's racial components. My racial assignments are commensurate with that scholarly pursuit only, what you call yourself, or consider yourself, is of absolutely no interest to me - so by all means, be White!
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Lioness, I am getting the feeling that you are one of those he,he, "less-than-pure-Albinos" who are worried about not being recognized as White. Fear not, I am not in the business of deciding who should qualify as White. To me, anyone who wants to be White, IS White, regardless of complexion.
Did the ruling class of ancient Rome average at greater than 50% albino or less than 50% albino?
Did the general population of ancient Rome average at greater than 50% albino or less than 50% albino?
quote:Originally posted by Mike111:
My interest is history, and it's racial components. My racial assignments are commensurate with that scholarly pursuit only, what you call yourself, or consider yourself, is of absolutely no interest to me - so by all means, be White!
When you say "racial" components what are the races in your opinion. Is an albino a separate race? If not, than what are the racial categories that you use in your assignments in your field, racial history?
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness:
quote:Originally posted by Mike111:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness: [QUOTE]But it becomes semantics. You could say the U.S., Britain, and France are "dynamic multi-ethnic, multi-racial cosmopolitan societies". Is Britain white? Technically it's not white it has many millions of citizens who are not white. So the vagueness of a question like "Is Britain white?" doesn't answer much. Do whites have the vast majority of political power in Britain yes. In ancient Rome, yes. In Ghana and China, no.
Is such and such country white? Is such and such country black? Few counties are absolutely 100% one ethnicity.
Lion has presented evidence to support his assertion that they were Black dominated societies. What evidence do you offer to the contrary?
Lion did not say Rome was Black dominated, you trying to use him as a human shield or something?
Dont mis-quote me Ms PinK Panther Cause you a liar and a time waster Just answer my question....
Do apply bleaching lotion on your pink-white butts, or do you prefer tanning lotion?
Lion!
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: [QUOTE]Originally posted by IronLion: [qb] Karakala as immortalized in Africa Compare
/QUOTE]Pink Panther
Comments?
Pink Panther, do you bleach your pink butts? Do you use bleaching cream?
Pink Lyinass
This marble statue looks like a pink man to you? Now what next?
Alexandria Egypt was the cultural center of both Rome and Greece.
Would you ever mistake this bust for that of the drug addict white-supremacy racist called Winston Churchill?
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by Just call me Jari: ^^^^ blah blah blah.....
Portrait of Roman Emperor Marcus Aurelius, Louvre
Do you see the pink-white skin of Marcus Aurelius? OOO, he is just so pink -white like yous..
ROFLMAO!!!
Here is the coinage issued by Marcus Aurelius with his own wooly haired image. No neanderthal animal hair...original black Roman Nigritae
How many black Roman Emperors have I just shown you.
Before now your Cagothic arse thought I was just talking about Septimius Severus and his family.
Pink ass Gwoat..
Sorry Jarri Judas, did that hurt
Lion!
Compare the bust of Marcus Aurelius
With the bust of His Imperial Majesty
And this picture of HIM the King of the Black Dreads!!
And Marcus Aureilus? Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Maximian the Moorish Emperor of Rome
Coin of Maximian
Romano-Moorish Emperor Maximian..See the attempt to hide his facial features? Darn Goths!!?
How many Moorish Emperors of Rome have I shown you now, Lyingass? How many? And counting...
Sorry Lyingass, did that hurt?
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
For your information:
Maximina was a moor from Africa. Probably from the southern Morrocco, or Siwa Libya.
Emperor Maximina was most likely from the old saharan race of the Hausas/Fulanis.
They try to disguise his origin with the empty designation: Berber...
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Diocletian
Real bust. See how the Goths tried to hide his face without success?
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Moorish Roman General: St Mauritius:
Mauritius Island in Africa is named after him...
Saint Maurice (also known as Maurice , Moritz or Mauritius) . He was the commander of the Theban Legion martyred and died in the early third century.
The Theban Legion , consisting only of Christians from Egypt , was ordered to leave for Gaul to aid the Emperor Maximian. Although they fought bravely , refused to obey the imperial order to persecute Christians , so they were decimated. Refusing a second time, all members of the Theban Legion were executed. The place where these events allegedly took place , known as Agaunum , is now the headquarters of the Abbey of Saint Maurice in the Swiss canton of Valais.
This is the earliest version of the story of the martyrdom of the Theban Legion , according to the letter Eucherius , archbishop of Lyon (c. 434-450 ) went to the bishop also Salvius . In other versions varies the cause of martyrdom, and the legionnaires were executed for refusing to make sacrifices to Roman gods.
Sorry Lyinass girl, did that hurt??? Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
young Marcus Aurelius
Iron, you have an inability to tell what is an Afro and what is not. Show me an African with this type of thick bunchy hair, are you crazy, they would laugh you out of the New Black Panther Party meeting. You think these men have the same nose? King Selassie had a semitic nose that points downward like many Ethiopians do. These busts of the Roman Emperors do not have that type of nose. Rome was white with a smattering of blacks they bossed around and took over Carthage.
Marcus Aurelius Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: Philosopher King Emperor Marcus Aurelius
Regard the curly locks and beards...imagine the dark olive skin of a true olive
All hailed the Black Emperor of Rome!
Pink Panther any comments? Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness:
This is Justin Timberlake's natural hair.
If someone were to make a portrait of him in stone you would say he's black.
That's why no one takes your clowning seriously.
Although there are people who have ambiguous facial features between African and Caucasians there are many Caucasians who do not look ambiguous they look most definitely European.
You have a complete inability to sense that. ....forget about the hair, if you can't sense that Europeans, not Africans match the features and forehead of this portrait of Augustus you have a learning disability.
It is clear as day, not even slightly ambiguous.
LOL!
The natural and straight animal hair of Justin Timberlake when he is not going to a hair dresser. No hope for lyingass, can you see his real animal hair now. An albino with curly hair was not yet born.
Now Lyinass
Name me the gene that causes curly hair in Albinos? Go ahead dunce, name it?
The one that causes animal hair in Albinos is called THADA. I gave that you you already.
The one that causes pink skin is called defective OCA.
The one that causes coloured eyes and coloured hair is called MC1R.
What is the name of the gene that causes curly hair in Albino Europeans, if any?
Do you use tanning lotions like all Albinos do or do you use BLEACHING CREAM like the Roman women?
Stop playing games and start debatiing!
Lion!
Have you forgotten this lesson from your faux-pas?
Only the mad do the same thing over and over again and expect a different result.
An albino with wooly hair was not yet born.
Wooly hair is a special mark of the Moorish people... Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
History of the Moorish Crown
Mansa Musa wearing the Moorish crown... Regard his crown 1312 - 1332 AD !
In Europe, this crown was identified with the Moorish race...
The goths having no kingly tradition sadly had no crowns.
The goths began wearing crowns in the imitation of the moorish people.
Today, 800 years later the Moorish crown is worn exclusively by Queen Elizabeth... the first daughter of the goths.
How are the mighty fallen, in the valley of golgotha!
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
Iron, you have an inability to tell what is an Afro and what is not. Show me an African with this type of thick bunchy hair, are you crazy, they would laugh you out of the New Black Panther Party meeting. You think these men have the same nose? King Selassie had a semitic nose that points downward like many Ethiopians do. These busts of the Roman Emperors do not have that type of nose. Rome was white with a smattering of blacks they bossed around and took over Carthage.
Marcus Aurelius
Behold young Marcus Aurelius
Behold!young and careless Mohamed Osman Mohamud, 19
Gotha wearing curly wigs! Lyingass who is this Gothic joker? He has no name? Are you trying to avoid the Justin Timberlake boo boo? Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
Iron this is Ozzy Osbourne's son:
He has naturally curly hair. When you cut this type of hair short it looks like this:
I keep trying to train your ass, the curl of the white man is larger scale. If you cut it very short, these large curls are too short to form.
quote:Originally posted by the lioness:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness: [qb]
quote: posted by KING:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: I grew up with cousins that looked exactly like that boy in the heart of tropical Nigeria.
Their mothers were white but their fathers were black. I now that tribe so well know that you cannot pass one of them off to me as a "white" boy.
No way. He is black to me. I say he probably got black genes, because I have blood cousins like that, who have more Nigerian culture than I do .
I have to agree with Iron here, the kid is black, look at what he's doing with his mouth, the attitude
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
Iron if somebody is wearing a beard their head looks longer. As you know it’s uncommon for African cultures to wear beards. In this picture of a younger Marcus Aurelius with shorter facial hair you can see that the shape of his head is not elongated or narrow.
This man:
Mohamed Osman Mohamud has
a) an elongated narrow East African head b) an Afro-Semitic nose that points downward c) very full lips
none of that is Roman. I keep trying to learn your ass. Because his hair is halfway more looking like Marcus Aurelius you do not have a match because there are three other things that are significantly different.
Perhaps a new eyeglasses prescription?
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Lioness - You sound very expert about Roman physical attributes. Mind telling me what your source or prototypical model is?
He, he, never mind, I'm just messin with you. I know it's the statues that you are looking at. Mind telling me what makes you think that those statues are authentic?
You know, it's not like the White man is not known for producing fake artifacts.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Lioness - I have a question for you:
If all of these kinda Black looking people are ancient Greeks....
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THEN WHO THE HELL ARE THESE? AND WHY DON'T THEY LOOK LIKE THE OTHERS?
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He,he, I'm just messin with you.
I already know that these are MODERN sculptures done by Antonio Canova (1757 - 1822).
But how many more are modern fakes?
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness: Iron this is Ozzy Osbourne's son:
He has naturally curly hair. When you cut this type of hair short it looks like this:
I keep trying to train your ass, the curl of the white man is larger scale. If you cut it very short, these large curls are too short to form.
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This is Lee Osborne with his family. The straight hair boy on the right is the same one posted by Lyingass girl as a wooly haired "black" man...hehehe..
Lyingass, I caught you Lyingass again. I busted your fake-ass wool-haired cum curly haired white man. This is the second such bust after the Justin Timberlake boo-boo. I call this one the Osborne boo-boo!
Now find me a picture of young Mohammed with straight short hairs.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
Iron, you have an inability to tell what is an Afro and what is not. Show me an African with this type of thick bunchy hair, are you crazy, they would laugh you out of the New Black Panther Party meeting. You think these men have the same nose? King Selassie had a semitic nose that points downward like many Ethiopians do. These busts of the Roman Emperors do not have that type of nose. Rome was white with a smattering of blacks they bossed around and took over Carthage.
Marcus Aurelius
Behold young Marcus Aurelius
Behold!young and careless Mohamed Osman Mohamud, 19
Gotha wearing curly wigs! Lyingass who is this Gothic joker? He has no name? Are you trying to avoid the Justin Timberlake boo boo?
Lyingass
You can see thesoft curly wooly hair of Jack Osburne in its natural form?? LOL
This picture as you can see shows you another goth Albino with straight neanderthal hair.
Pink Pantheress, how many times do I need to school your pink arse that a wooly haired albino was not yet born.
Another lie busted Another liard outed!
Posted by A Simple Girl (Member # 18316) on :
According to this Mike everyone that is close to black or 100% black should be building immaculate empires. Do we really see this happening around the world today?
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: [QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by IronLion: Behold young Marcus Aurelius
Behold!young and careless Mohamed Osman Mohamud, 19
Jack Osbourne after hair dressing! Aching for the wooly hair Lyingass who is this Gothic joker? He has no name? Are you trying to avoid the Justin Timberlake boo boo?
Jack Osborne as a baby. See his straight neanderthal hair? Another lie busted Another liard outed!
Jack Osbourne straight hair far left
Lioness
Another bad hair day for you!
LoL!
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: [QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by IronLion: Behold young Marcus Aurelius
Behold!young and careless Mohamed Osman Mohamud, 19
Jack Osbourne after hair dressing! Aching for the wooly hair Lyingass who is this Gothic joker? He has no name? Are you trying to avoid the Justin Timberlake boo boo?
Jack Osborne as a baby. See his straight neanderthal hair? Another lie busted Another liard outed!
Jack Osbourne straight hair far left
Lioness
Another bad hair day for you!
LoL!
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: Philosopher King Emperor Marcus Aurelius
Regard the curly locks and beards...imagine the dark olive skin of a true olive
All hailed the Black Emperor of Rome!
Pink Panther any comments?
Pink Panther I am still waiting It has been three days now...
Posted by A Simple Girl (Member # 18316) on :
Yeah I got a comment. Jack Osbourne looks alot more like Marcus Aurelius than the other guy. In fact the other guy seems to be highly mixed like myself. lol
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by A Simple Girl: Yeah I got a comment. Jack Osbourne looks alot more like Marcus Aurelius tha the other guy. In fact the other guy seems to be highly mixed like myself. lol
Simple Pink Girl
Jack Osbourne has straight red hair! Just like his dada, Ozzy... An albino pink ass with wooly hair was not yet born!!!
You sure are simple! Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
WHAT DOES NIGRINUS MEAN IN LATIN?
Gaius Avidius Nigrinus (died 118) was a Roman that lived between the 1st and 2nd centuries.
Nigrinus’ paternal and maternal ancestors were Romans of the highest political rank. He was the son of an elder Gaius Avidius Nigrinus by an unnamed mother, his brother was the consul Titus Avidius Quietus and his paternal uncle was the proconsul Tiberius Avidius Quietus. Nigrinus’ family were wealthy, distinguished and well connected politically from Faventia (modern Faenza, Italy) and he was born and raised in Faventia. Nigrinus and his family may have been related to the consul Gaius Petronius Pontius Nigrinus, who had served his consulship at the time that the Roman Emperor Tiberius had died in 37.
His family had strong links to Greece. The father of Nigrinus, had served at an unknown date during the reign of Roman Emperor Domitian (81-96) as Proconsul of Achaea, as well as his paternal uncle. His family was friends of Greek Historian Plutarch and Roman Senator Pliny the Younger. Plutarch dedicated a writing piece to the elder Nigrinus and Quietus entitled ‘On Brotherly Love’.
Nigrinus was a long outstanding friend of the Roman Emperor Trajan and his family. He served as Tribune in 105. Nigrinus served as Legatus of Achaea and probably participated in Trajan’s attempt to recognize and stabilize the administration of the financially troubled province. Nigrinus later became the Roman Governor of Greece....
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Gotha albino model, fake "romano-moorish" curls, don't be fooled, the Gotha with curly locks was not yet born
Miss Lioness putting on her fake hot Roman curls
Fake gel-chemical Romano-moorish locks Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
Iron, there's no point in arguing about this individual or that individual.
You said you thought Rome was a multi-racial society. That could mean any thing. For example Finland is over 90% white. Yet it's not 100%. So therefore someone could argue it's multi-racial in that sense. Someone could argue on this basis Finland is not a "white" county
Ironed, in your opinion what was the approximate percentage of black people in the population of ancient Rome?
I can't play endless picture games with you without charging a fee
(mike let him answer first please)
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness: Jack Osbourne
Jack Osbourne WANNA GET himself SOME MOORISH-ROMAN CURLS! So he goes to a hairdress!
This is Jack Osbourne as a baby with Daddy Ozzy Osbourne.... Lioness, where is the natural curly locks!
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: Philosopher King Emperor Marcus Aurelius
Regard the curly locks and beards...imagine the dark olive skin of a true olive
All hailed the Black Emperor of Rome!
Pink Panther any comments? [/QUOTE]Pink Panther I am still waiting It has been three days now... [/qb][/QUOTE]The real deal!
Lyingass girl, this is four days and I am still waiting...
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Moorish Totem Pole Temples:
Totems Poles and Moors
Anywhere Moors have settled on earth certain markers are always present, pyramids, totem poles, alchemy, and marine sciences... higher level civilization.
We call it Moorish science; they stole it and called it free-masonry
The Rosslyn Temple in Scotland copies this same Africa metaphysical conception of totem poles in its architecture and interior decor:
A totem pole is a symbol of the qualities, experience and exploits of the clan.
The totem carvings tell a story, revealed only if one knows the meaning assigned to various animals, fish, birds and designs and where they are placed on the pole
quote:Originally posted by the lioness: Iron, there's no point in arguing about this individual or that individual...
You mean the tinggy with Jack Osbourne and Justin Timberlake with hot Romano-Moorish fake curls?
You need to apologize for that deliberate lie, otherwise I will hold your feet to fire.
quote: You said you thought Rome was a multi-racial society. That could mean any thing. For example Finland is over 90% white. Yet it's not 100%. So therefore someone could argue it's multi-racial in that sense. Someone could argue on this basis Finland is not a "white" county
The point is that Rome was not a "white" country, culture or civilization. You nasty gothas are grown on a soup of lies about your "great white Roman ancestor."
But the Romans were not a white people, the white people came in later and murdered them all! The Vandals, the Gothas, the Visigoths, Cagots the whole rat pack, now known as the Spaniards, the Portugese, the French, the so-called white Italians (Lombardis), the Romanians, the Serbians, the Solvakians, the whole rat pack white-boi supremacists blood of the Romans is on your hands just like the blood of the Moors of Europe, and those of the Moors of Africa, those of the Moors of America, those of the Moors of India and Indonesia you will all pay without doubt...
Cause your historical deeds will arise and judge you with true judgement one day you will also pay!
quote:Ironed, in your opinion what was the approximate percentage of black people in the population of ancient Rome?
The question should be the other way round. What was the percentage of Gotha Albinos in what was essentially an Empire centered in Africa.
There were more Roman cities in Africa than in Europe. Western and central Europe were outposts of Roman empire, which was essentially landbased and spread from Moorish Asia-minor to Moorish Arabia, to Moorish Africa.
What could be the percentage of so-called whites amongst a tribe of Sicuanis, or Iberians or Latinis, or Silures, or Maurisians, all of whom we know as a historical fact came from Africa!!!
Romano-Moorish History 101.
Go do the sum dummy...
Lion! Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by A Simple Girl: According to this Mike everyone that is close to black or 100% black should be building immaculate empires. Do we really see this happening around the world today?
Simple Girl - I hear that smug retort very often. Always from people who are ignorant of history and the modern world.
Over the course of human history, Civilizations come, and civilizations go. The current White civilizations, which are continuations of Black civilizations in Europe, are about at their end - read a newspaper.
Southern Asia is in ascension: India, China, Indonesia, S.Korea - Japan is already there.
So if you check back with me in about a hundred years, you will probably be singing a different tune.
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Clyde Winters: The Greeks and Romans were very racist.
quote: Originally posted by IronedLion:
The point is that Rome was not a "white" country, culture or civilization. You nasty gothas are grown on a soup of lies about your "great white Roman ancestor."
the Romans were not a white people, the white people came in later and murdered them all!
.
Iron,
1) In the period before invasions by the Goths and others would you describe the majority of Rome as being black? What ethnicity, how would you describe the majority of the Roman people in the period say from 27 BC to 300 AD?
.
This is a basic question I should have asked at the beginning of this thread. Really if you want to avoid this question which goes to the heart to the thread, I can't continue playing games with you about details. In the Roman empire period before invasions by the Goths and others would you describe the majority of Rome as being black?
2)The Romans famously destroyed Carthage, razed to the ground, no stone was to be left upon another, the soil was to be ploughed and strewn with salt. How do you feel about that?
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness:
quote:Originally posted by Clyde Winters: The Greeks and Romans were very racist.
quote: Originally posted by IronedLion:
The point is that Rome was not a "white" country, culture or civilization. You nasty gothas are grown on a soup of lies about your "great white Roman ancestor."
the Romans were not a white people, the white people came in later and murdered them all!
.
Iron,
1) In the period before invasions by the Goths and others would you describe the majority of Rome as being black? What ethnicity, how would you describe the majority of the Roman people in the period say from 27 BC to 300 AD?
.
This is a basic question I should have asked at the beginning of this thread. Really if you want to avoid this question which goes to the heart to the thread, I can't continue playing games with you about details. In the Roman empire period before invasions by the Goths and others would you describe the majority of Rome as being black?
2)The Romans famously destroyed Carthage, razed to the ground, no stone was to be left upon another, the soil was to be ploughed and strewn with salt. How do you feel about that?
I am not here to play rhetorical games with your pink ass.
I respond to the world not really to your idiocy.
So,
Do not engage me with your black spell word because Rome did have a basic ethnicity which is Moorish, Ibero, Nigri-Latini.
You colour coded spell, does not work with me. By the authority of Civil law I am white in class, higher than you by heritage and descent.. original Moor.
The class code colour "white" was stolen by cagots and first used only in 1776 in the United States of America. Before that Cagots were the reds, the pinks, or the "leprous of the skin" as told in the bible and the Moors was known as the noble moors the first and original whites of Europe the nobility and aborigine of the land.
You have been told again and again that in the classical period of Rome Ancient Romans were a mix of ethnicities Africanis, Africani Europeans, Maurisians, some Greeks, some Catheginians of Sicily, the Sicanis, the Iberians of Iberia, and the latinis of latium whose langugage was used.
In the middles period Rome began experimenting with Gotha and Slava slaves, and concubines.
In the later period, the empire was swamped by Gotha/Slava servants slaves and military auxillaries.
Those were the fifth coloum which open the gates for the barbarian armies of Alaric the Visigotha in 410 when Gothas enterd and burnt down Rome.
Lion!
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Clyde Winters: The Greeks and Romans were very racist.
quote: Originally posted by IronedLion:
The point is that Rome was not a "white" country, culture or civilization. You nasty gothas are grown on a soup of lies about your "great white Roman ancestor."
the Romans were not a white people, the white people came in later and murdered them all!
.
Iron,
1) In the period before invasions by the Goths and others would you describe the majority of Rome as being black? What ethnicity, how would you describe the majority of the Roman people in the period say from 27 BC to 300 AD? This is a basic question I should have asked at the beginning of this thread. Really if you want to avoid this question which goes to the heart to the thread, I can't continue playing games with you about details. In the Roman empire period before invasions by the Goths and others would you describe the majority of Rome as being black?
2)The Romans famously destroyed Carthage, razed to the ground, no stone was to be left upon another, the soil was to be ploughed and strewn with salt. How do you feel about that? [/qb][/QUOTE]
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:I am not here to play rhetorical games with your pink ass.
I respond to the world not really to your idiocy.
So, You colour coded spell, does not work with me. By the authority of Civil law I am white in class, higher than you by heritage and descent.. original Moor.
The class code colour "white" was stolen by cagots and first used only in 1776 in the United States of America. Before that Cagots were the reds, the pinks, or the "leprous of the skin" as told in the bible and the Moors was known as the noble moors the first and original whites of Europe the nobility and aborigine of the land.
so Rome was white just like you are, very interesting
quote:Originally posted by Ironedlion:
Rome did have a basic ethnicity which is Moorish, Ibero, Nigri-Latini.
Hmmm I wonder which category these guys fall into, Moorish, Ibero or Nigri-Latini. What is your guess Iron?
Julius-Caesar
vespasian
Tiberius
Trajan
lol, let me know when you come up with something, not some unknown people from an Egyptian province, these famous Emperors above including Julius Caesar. If you are telling me they are not white Caucasians you are insane we're putting you in the looney bin with the rest of the fake Moors who think slavery never happened.
.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: Philosopher King Emperor Marcus Aurelius
Regard the curly locks and beards...imagine the dark olive skin of a true olive
All hailed the Black Emperor of Rome!
Pink Panther any comments?
Pink Panther I am still waiting It has been three days now... [/QUOTE]The real deal!
Lyingass girl, this is four days and I am still waiting... [/QB][/QUOTE]
Have no fear of Emperor Marcus Aurelius the Philosopher King...
I am still waiting for your responses?
Is he moorish-romano or a cagot? Would you apply bleaching cream on your pink butts or would you rather a tanning lotion?
The Romans were notorious for using bleaching cream, to make their skins pale pink like their gothic women....
Are you just dumb or braindead too?
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: Maximian the Moorish Emperor of Rome
Coin of Maximian
Romano-Moorish Emperor Maximian..See the attempt to hide his facial features? Darn Goths!!?
How many Moorish Emperors of Rome have I shown you now, Lyingass? How many? And counting...
Sorry Lyingass, did that hurt?
Lyingass, you can run but you cannot hide.
Behold Emperor Maximina, Moorish Romano Emperor from Africa! Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: [QUOTE]Originally posted by IronLion: [qb] Karakala as immortalized in Africa Compare
/QUOTE]Pink Panther
Comments?
Pink Panther, do you bleach your pink butts? Do you use bleaching cream?
Pink Lyinass
This marble statue looks like a pink man to you? Now what next?
Alexandria Egypt was the cultural center of both Rome and Greece.
Would you ever mistake this bust for that of the drug addict white-supremacy racist called Winston Churchill?
Moorish Romano Emperor Caracalla!
A cagot that looked like this was not yet born!
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: Maximian the Moorish Emperor of Rome
Romano-Moorish Emperor Maximian..See the attempt to hide his facial features? Darn Goths!!?
How many Moorish Emperors of Rome have I shown you now, Lyingass? How many? And counting...
Sorry Lyingass, did that hurt?
Lyingass, you can run but you cannot hide.
Behold Emperor Maximina, Moorish Romano Emperor from Africa!
Behold beautiful Moorish-Romano Galla Palciada daughter of Emperor Theodosius I 392 - 450 AD
Coin of Galla Placiada.. see her wooly locks? This one is not Justin Timberlake nor Jack Osbourne fake curls..
Sorry Lyingass gal, did that hurt? Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: Maximian the Moorish Emperor of Rome
Romano-Moorish Emperor Maximian..See the attempt to hide his facial features? Darn Goths!!?
How many Moorish Emperors of Rome have I shown you now, Lyingass? How many? And counting...
Sorry Lyingass, did that hurt?
Lyingass, you can run but you cannot hide.
Behold Emperor Maximina, Moorish Romano Emperor from Africa!
Behold beautiful Moorish-Romano Galla Palciada daughter of Emperor Theodosius I 392 - 450 AD
Coin of Galla Placiada.. see her wooly locks? This one is not Justin Timberlake nor Jack Osbourne fake curls..
Sorry Lyingass gal, did that hurt?
Moorish Romano Emperor Honorius This is a 19th century impression done by Jean-Paul_Laurens, but you get the idea of the King'sethniciy insantly
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Moorish Romano Princess Justus Grata Honoria Daughter of Galla Placiada
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Romano Moorish Emperor Valentin III
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Romano-Moorish African born and bred Emperor Aemilian
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
"And, beside the perils of rough and unknown seas, who would leave Asia, or Africa for Italy for Germany, with its wild country, its inclement skies, its sullen manners and aspect, unless indeed it were his home?" .. - Roman Historian Tacituus
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Physical Characteristics.
"For my own part, I agree with those who think that the tribes of Germany are free from all taint of intermarriages with foreign nations, and that they appear as a distinct, unmixed race, like none but themselves. Hence, too, the same physical peculiarities throughout so vast a population. All have fierce blue eyes, red hair, huge frames, fit only for a sudden exertion. They are less able to bear laborious work. Heat and thirst they cannot in the least endure; to cold and hunger their climate and their soil inure them..."
Tacitus on the Gothas of Germania
Gotha bwoi Justin Timberlake, red straight hair, blue eyes, pale skin Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: Physical Characteristics Gotha/Vandal
"For my own part, I agree with those who think that the tribes of Germany are free from all taint of intermarriages with foreign nations, and that they appear as a distinct, unmixed race, like none but themselves. Hence, too, the same physical peculiarities throughout so vast a population. All have fierce blue eyes, red hair, huge frames, fit only for a sudden exertion. They are less able to bear laborious work. Heat and thirst they cannot in the least endure; to cold and hunger their climate and their soil inure them..."
Tacitus on the Gothas of Germania
Gotha bwoi Justin Timberlake, red straight hair, blue eyes, pale skin
Physical Characteristics Romano-Moorish
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Romano-Moorish Emperor Vespasianus
Posted by A Simple Girl (Member # 18316) on :
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by A Simple Girl:
Comeon sweetie, if you see something... say something! Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: Maximian the Moorish Emperor of Rome
Romano-Moorish Emperor Maximian..See the attempt to hide his facial features? Darn Goths!!?
How many Moorish Emperors of Rome have I shown you now, Lyingass? How many? And counting...
Sorry Lyingass, did that hurt?
Lyingass, you can run but you cannot hide.
Behold Emperor Maximina, Moorish Romano Emperor from Africa!
Behold beautiful Moorish-Romano Galla Palciada daughter of Emperor Theodosius I 392 - 450 AD
Coin of Galla Placiada.. see her wooly locks? This one is not Justin Timberlake nor Jack Osbourne fake curls..
Sorry Lyingass gal, did that hurt?
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
Maximian the Moorish Emperor of Rome
Maximian the Moorish Emperor of Rome
buffoonery at it's finest
-I created the Ironlion persona to make Afrocentricity look bad
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Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
And this is Maximian, the African Emperor of Roman Empire:
Dunce, what next other of idiocy will you put forward? Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
I must have embarrassed someone again?
LoL! Eachtime the Dunce is busted She goes MIA...
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
She is only licking her wounds, and searching for something new and even stupider to respond with.
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
are you stupid? it makes no difference, they're both white fool.
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
Emperor: Nero, tomb of alabama
Emperor: Nerva
Emperor: Galba
Emperor: Caligula
Emperor: Augustus
Mike, my wall is starting to crack, I might be having a change of heart, maybe you guys are right. I'm having second thoughts....
Mike please tell me are these white people or black people? That's a fair question. I want to hear you say it.
If you say they are black I will have to concede that the Ironlion team won. You're the authority on this. If you were to say that the above people were black I would have to throw in the towel. I'm almost convinced. If you would just confirm their blackness I would have no more argument. I have a secret desire to join the Rome was black camp. I just need that final word from you. As lion said Rome was multi ethnic but not multi racial. The ethnicities are all black people. The ancestry of the Romans were the Moors. It sounds good. I'm almost there. I just need your seal of approval on this.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
^^You are an ignorant fool with very little knowledge of Roman history...
That is why to you, Maxentius is the same as Maximina;
Go take a basic course in Roman history before losing complete credibility as a result of this thread...
Look how many boo boos you committed in just one thread...
You are now DISMISSED.
Next red neck...?
LoL!
"...Maxentius is the same as Maximina"
hehehe!
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: Gotha bwoi Justin Timberlake, red straight hair, blue eyes, pale skin
Physical Characteristics of Romano-Moorish type Olive skin, dark wooly to straight hair, black eyes
This is a brown Romano describing the physical attributes of the Goths. His name was Taitus.
If Romans were albinos with red hair and blue eyes, and pale skin, why is Tacitus saying here that only Goths look that way?
Romans must have looked very different from Gotha Germanica...read:
quote:Physical Characteristics Gotha/Vandal
"For my own part, I agree with those who think that the tribes of Germany .....like none but themselves. Hence, too, the same physical peculiarities throughout so vast a population.
All have fierce blue eyes, red hair, huge frames, fit only for a sudden exertion.
They are less able to bear laborious work. Heat and thirst they cannot in the least endure; to cold and hunger their climate and their soil inure them..."
Tacitus
Posted by A Simple Girl (Member # 18316) on :
Maximian
Posted by A Simple Girl (Member # 18316) on :
Maxentius....the son of Maximian.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
^LoL!
So you cannot see the difference between the two pictures?
Emperor Maximian
that is the African Moor
Same guy here
and here Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
These two brown moors of Europe were brothers...the Grachus family
Tiberus Gracchus and Gaius Gracchus they are important because they are the grandchildren of .... Scipio Africanus....
Regard: Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Life in Ancient Rome
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by A Simple Girl: Gargoyle!
Moorish-Romano Emperor Maximian offers incense to Diana
Wooly locks Emperor offers incense Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
The Holy Fathers of Rome
The Moorish Saints
Saint Leo
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Romano-Moorish Saint Barbara
The Holy Great Martyr Barbara lived and suffered during the reign of the emperor Maximian (305-311). Her father, the pagan Dioscorus, was a rich and illustrious man in the Syrian city of Heliopolis. ...
Moving ahead to perhaps 1100 B.C. It is at about this time, that people from the Eurasian plains called "the Latin's" later known as the Romans - migrate in. These Latins may have accompanied the Hellenes into Greece, and then continued on into Italy. The nature of the early contact between the two peoples, is unknown. But, the later relationship is well known to be one of violence.
Soon after the invasion of Whites from Eurasia began, a coalition of the original Black inhabitants of Italy, Greece and the Aegean area, formed a conglomeration called the "Sea People". They boarded ships with all of their belongings and fled the area. But those that stayed behind, still had to deal with the White newcomers.
In time, the Romans had learned how to built cities, now there is great competition for power and territory. Wars rage, but the Etruscan cities fight alone, and the Romans can simply attack and annex each individual city; divide and conquer was the order of the day. This disunity is further illustrated by the fact that the Romans concluded treaties with individual Etruscan city/states, rather than the whole.
As Caucasians kept coming in, Rome soon became a large city, similar to the powerful cities of southern Etruria, and it had also become predominately Caucasian. Accordingly, it was a Caucasian uprising that drove the Etruscans from Rome in 509 B.C.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Your position appears to evolve as I teach you the inner details of Romano-Moorish History.
Provide me with source for your tall tale... or
Is this gonna be like your Justin Timberlake hot fake curls?
Or Jack Osbourne's hot fake curls?
RECALL THIS LESSON:
A Roman Describes the Goths
"For my own part, I agree with those who think that the tribes of Germany are .... unmixed race, like none but themselves.
Hence, too, the same physical peculiarities throughout so vast a population.
All have fierce blue eyes, red hair huge frames (obese), fit only for a sudden exertion. They are less able to bear laborious work. Heat and thirst they cannot in the least endure , ; to cold and hunger their climate and their soil inure them..."
Roman Historian Tacitus on the Gothas and Vandals Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness: Iron let me explain the history of Rome to you
Moving ahead to perhaps 1100 B.C. It is at about this time, that people from the Eurasian plains called "the Latin's" later known as the Romans - migrate in. These Latins may have accompanied the Hellenes into Greece, and then continued on into Italy. The nature of the early contact between the two peoples, is unknown. But, the later relationship is well known to be one of violence.
Soon after the invasion of Whites from Eurasia began, a coalition of the original Black inhabitants of Italy, Greece and the Aegean area, formed a conglomeration called the "Sea People". They boarded ships with all of their belongings and fled the area. But those that stayed behind, still had to deal with the White newcomers.
In time, the Romans had learned how to built cities, now there is great competition for power and territory. Wars rage, but the Etruscan cities fight alone, and the Romans can simply attack and annex each individual city; divide and conquer was the order of the day. This disunity is further illustrated by the fact that the Romans concluded treaties with individual Etruscan city/states, rather than the whole.
As Caucasians kept coming in, Rome soon became a large city, similar to the powerful cities of southern Etruria, and it had also become predominately Caucasian. Accordingly, it was a Caucasian uprising that drove the Etruscans from Rome in 509 B.C.
And actually, the latins were the minority in the confederacy that became the Roman Empire.
And who said the latins were caucasians? Or you meant to say that latin is an "indo-european" language?
Latin language was used, in Rome but the inhabitants of Latium -the land and the original cradle of Latin language, were a minor partner in the whole scheme.
I can provide you a 1000 sources ask if you care... Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness: Iron let me explain the history of Rome to you
Moving ahead to perhaps 1100 B.C. It is at about this time, that people from the Eurasian plains called "the Latin's" later known as the Romans - migrate in. These Latins may have accompanied the Hellenes into Greece, and then continued on into Italy. The nature of the early contact between the two peoples, is unknown. But, the later relationship is well known to be one of violence.
Soon after the invasion of Whites from Eurasia began, a coalition of the original Black inhabitants of Italy, Greece and the Aegean area, formed a conglomeration called the "Sea People". They boarded ships with all of their belongings and fled the area. But those that stayed behind, still had to deal with the White newcomers.
In time, the Romans had learned how to built cities, now there is great competition for power and territory. Wars rage, but the Etruscan cities fight alone, and the Romans can simply attack and annex each individual city; divide and conquer was the order of the day. This disunity is further illustrated by the fact that the Romans concluded treaties with individual Etruscan city/states, rather than the whole.
As Caucasians kept coming in, Rome soon became a large city, similar to the powerful cities of southern Etruria, and it had also become predominately Caucasian. Accordingly, it was a Caucasian uprising that drove the Etruscans from Rome in 509 B.C. -Mike111, realhistoryww.com
And actually, the latins were the minority in the confederacy that became the Roman Empire.
And who said the latins were caucasians? Or you meant to say that latin is an "indo-european" language?
Latin language was used, in Rome but the inhabitants of Latium -the land and the original cradle of Latin language, were a minor partner in the whole scheme.
I can provide you a 1000 sources ask if you care...
I'm shocked the above quote was taken verbatim from Mike's site realhistoryww.com:
clearly somebody's right and somebody's wrong.
Mike says after 509 BC there was a Caucasian uprising and Rome became "predominately Caucasian".
We'll get to the bottom of this.
Mike may have to revise his site to reflect your new Rome was not predominantly Caucasian prior to 476 AD findings. Iron I was wondering in the BC period of Rome to the first few AD centuries were there any Caucasians at all, emperors and such? If so how did they get there? I thought you said they were all Moorish and negro latins?
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness: Blah blah blah....Iron I was wondering in the BC period of Rome to the first few AD centuries were there any Caucasians at all, emperors and such? If so how did they get there? I thought you said they were all Moorish and negro latins?
What would the Roman Historian Tacitus have said?
Response:
RECALL THIS LESSON:
A Roman Describes the Goths
"For my own part, I agree with those who think that the tribes of Germany are .... unmixed race, like none but themselves.
Hence, too, the same physical peculiarities throughout so vast a population.
All have fierce blue eyes, red hair huge frames (obese), fit only for a sudden exertion. They are less able to bear laborious work. Heat and thirst they cannot in the least endure , ; to cold and hunger their climate and their soil inure them..."
Roman Historian Tacitus on the Gothas and Vandals
True blood Romano-Moorish Emperor Aemilian
You Know Who..lol
Gotha with fake hot Romano-Moorish curls Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Emperor Lucius Verus (Romano-Moorish)
Alexis de Tocqueville (Goths) This type destroyed Rome...
Comments:
The difference is clear even if both busts were done in bronze Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness: [qb]Blah blah blah....Iron I was wondering in the BC period of Rome to the first few AD centuries were there any Caucasians at all, emperors and such? If so how did they get there? I thought you said they were all Moorish and negro latins?
What would the Roman Historian Tacitus have said?
Response:
RECALL THIS LESSON:
A Roman Describes the Goths
"For my own part, I agree with those who think that the tribes of Germany are .... unmixed race, like none but themselves.
Hence, too, the same physical peculiarities throughout so vast a population.
All have fierce blue eyes, red hair, huge frames (obese), fit only for a sudden exertion. They are less able to bear laborious work. Heat and thirst they cannot in the least endure , ; to cold and hunger their climate and their soil inure them..."
Iron, you say that a Roman said the red hair of the Germans was like none but themselves. But we are talking about Romans. If you are saying that Romans were mixed racially in the BCE and early AD period, that they were part Caucasian were did the get the Caucasian part from in that earlier period?
quote: Origininally posted by Mike111:
As Caucasians kept coming in, Rome soon became a large city, similar to the powerful cities of southern Etruria, and it had also become predominately Caucasian. Accordingly, it was a Caucasian uprising that drove the Etruscans from Rome in 509 B.C.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
^Caucasian = pale skin; blond/red hair; blue eyes
Roman = dark skin; dark wool/curly hair; dark eyes.
Now you know who you are and where you were all along.
Ask me for a good book on Moorish-Roman Empire and I will send you the right was...
Period! You are now dismissed for the lasttime.
Lion!
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness: Blah blah blah....Iron I was wondering in the BC period of Rome to the first few AD centuries were there any Caucasians at all, emperors and such? If so how did they get there? I thought you said they were all Moorish and negro latins?
What would the Roman Historian Tacitus have said?
Response:
RECALL THIS LESSON:
A Roman Describes the Goths
"For my own part, I agree with those who think that the tribes of Germany are .... unmixed race, like none but themselves.
Hence, too, the same physical peculiarities throughout so vast a population.
All have fierce blue eyes, red hair huge frames (obese), fit only for a sudden exertion. They are less able to bear laborious work. Heat and thirst they cannot in the least endure , ; to cold and hunger their climate and their soil inure them..."
Roman Historian Tacitus on the Gothas and Vandals
True blood Romano-Moorish Emperor Aemilian
You Know Who..lol
Gotha with fake hot Romano-Moorish curls
The difference is clear!
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Afro-Romano Emperor Macrinus
Marcus Opellius Macrinus (ca. 165 – June 218), commonly known as Macrinus, was Roman Emperor from 217 to 218. Macrinus was of indigenous North African descent (perhaps Berber) and the first emperor to become so without membership in the senatorial class....
How many Afro-Moorish-Roman Emperors so far and still counting....
Aryan liars run for cover
Lion!
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Lioness - Rome, like Greece, went through many periods. Relating to the Whites who invaded from Asia circa 1,200 B.C, their effect is obvious in authentic Roman artifacts from after the fall of the Etruscans.
By the time of Tacitus (who was a Celt), Romans were indeed a mixed race people - that is not to say that there were no pure-breeds.
So when he commented on the Germans, of course he was speaking as someone accustomed to people quite different from them.
But interestingly, just as modern Whites try to hide the Black component of ancient Rome and Greece, the also try to hide the Black conquers of ancient Rome.
The decline of the Roman Empire was a slow process, which occurred over a period of over 350 years. Beginning at about 100 A.D. and culminating on September 4, 476, when Romulus Augustus, the last Emperor of the Western Roman Empire, was deposed by Odoacer, a Germanic chieftain.
BULLSH1T! Odoacer was a Celt!
The Celt Vercingetorix
The Celt Odoacer White people hair can't do this! Plus that's too much lip for a White Boy (mustache on top lip).
Here is where the White Boys took over.
Rome's German replacement "The Holy Roman Empire" was a realm that existed for about a millennium in Central Europe, ruled by a Holy Roman Emperor. Charlemagne (King of the Franks) was crowned Emperor of the Romans in 800 A.D.
Now here's a White Boy! Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
Iron lion's coin history of the world series^^^^^
According to Roman tradition, Rome was founded by Romulus on 21 April 753 BC.
489 years later in 264 BC the Romans desired to expand into North Africa.
After three Punic wars, finally in 149 BC they defeated and destroyed Carthage, North Africa. After Rome emerged victorious, Carthaginian settlements, such as those in Mauritania, were taken over. then Ironlion bent down and kissed their sandals
^^^^^^
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Lioness, you sound bitter. Buck-up old girl.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness: Bla...blah...blah..
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The above is Scipio Africanus (supposedly)...
These are his grandchildren:
Tiberus Gracchus and Gaius Gracchus
This is Jack Osburne...a Gotha clowning with fake hot Romano-Moorish curls:
The difference is clear
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Lioness, you sound bitter. Buck-up old girl.
Yeah..don't blame her Mike, She got the intellectual beat-down of her life... in this thread... Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
^At times like this, even Lioness should be afforded tender considerations. It must be very difficult to find that everything that your own kind taught you, and everything that you believed, was nothing but a bullsh1t lie. Love and kisses to you Lioness.
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: Brown Muurish ethnicity was elite and Royalty of Rome.
As Caucasians kept coming in, Rome soon became a large city, similar to the powerful cities of southern Etruria, and it had also become predominately Caucasian. Accordingly, it was a Caucasian uprising that drove the Etruscans from Rome in 509 B.C.
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: It must be very difficult to find that everything that your own kind taught you, and everything that you believed, was nothing but a bullsh1t lie. Love and kisses to you Lioness.
It's sad you want to be the colonists, mentally sick
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Back to our historical presentation:
Romans
Brown to dark skin,
Curly to wooly hair,
Black eyes.
See:
Hasrubal
Whereas
Gotha so-called caucasian:
Pale skin that cannot stand heat..
Straight Blond and red hairs
Blue eyes
See Tacitus Roman Historian
See National Geograpic
Any more questions on Roman ethnicity and skin colour?
Lion!
Posted by Truthcentric (Member # 3735) on :
Romans would have probably been swarthier than Gauls or Norsemen, as are modern Italians, but they were still light-skinned enough to be classified as White. The overwhelming majority of their own artwork attests to this.
Why are you hellbent on claiming every major civilization in history as Black? Not only is it disrespectful and racist towards non-Blacks, it also makes the history of civilization boringly monochromatic. I would rather the architects of civilization be of every possible skin color than all White, all Black, or whatever. It adds some diversity.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by Truthcentric: Romans would have probably been swarthier than Gauls or Norsemen, as are modern Italians, but they were still light-skinned enough to be classified as White. The overwhelming majority of their own artwork attests to this.
Why are you hellbent on claiming every major civilization in history as Black? Not only is it disrespectful and racist towards non-Blacks, it also makes the history of civilization boringly monochromatic. I would rather the architects of civilization be of every possible skin color than all White, all Black, or whatever. It adds some diversity.
If you have evidence provide it... Not sentimental melodramas allowed here this is serious ... see what happened to Lyinass?
Put up or keep quiet!
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: Philosopher King Emperor Marcus Aurelius
Regard the curly locks and beards...imagine the dark olive skin of a true olive
All hailed the Black Emperor of Rome!
Pink Panther any comments?
Modern day Sudanese Rapper
Ms Pink Pnther, any comments? Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: Brown Muurish ethnicity was elite and Royalty of Rome.
quote:Originally posted by
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: It must be very difficult to find that everything that your own kind taught you, and everything that you believed, was nothing but a bullsh1t lie. Love and kisses to you Lioness.
It's sad you want to be the colonists, mentally sick
the lips... the skin colour... the hair... of a modern Sudanese...
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness:
quote:
quote:
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: It must be very difficult to find that everything that your own kind taught you, and everything that you believed, was nothing but a bullsh1t lie. Love and kisses to you Lioness.
lol
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The beatdown continues.....
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Half Sudanese Half British
Alex Siddings
Half Iberian half Slava Emperor Trajan
Full Blood Sudanese
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by Truthcentric: Romans would have probably been swarthier than Gauls or Norsemen, as are modern Italians, but they were still light-skinned enough to be classified as White. The overwhelming majority of their own artwork attests to this.
Why are you hellbent on claiming every major civilization in history as Black? Not only is it disrespectful and racist towards non-Blacks, it also makes the history of civilization boringly monochromatic. I would rather the architects of civilization be of every possible skin color than all White, all Black, or whatever. It adds some diversity.
I'm waiting too. Or did you just pull that from your butt?
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
Ironed, you say that Alex Siddings is half Caucasian. Are you saying that Rome was half Caucasian before 400 BC?
Emperor Trajan
Alex Siddings
no resemblance
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
painting created in Egypt
painting created in Pompeii, Italy, Curly haired white boy
.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Lioness - these two (both suppose to be Trajan) don't look the same either.
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
they look like exactly the same person. the only difference is the one on the left looks like he put on a few pounds at some point. The mouth nose and eyes are exactly the same, thank you Mike.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness:
painting created in Pompeii, Italy
Lioness - why didn't you post these - also from Pompeii?
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111:
quote:Originally posted by Truthcentric: Romans would have probably been swarthier than Gauls or Norsemen, as are modern Italians, but they were still light-skinned enough to be classified as White. The overwhelming majority of their own artwork attests to this.
Why are you hellbent on claiming every major civilization in history as Black? Not only is it disrespectful and racist towards non-Blacks, it also makes the history of civilization boringly monochromatic. I would rather the architects of civilization be of every possible skin color than all White, all Black, or whatever. It adds some diversity.
I'm waiting too. Or did you just pull that from your butt?
As Caucasians kept coming in, Rome soon became a large city, similar to the powerful cities of southern Etruria, and it had also become predominately Caucasian. Accordingly, it was a Caucasian uprising that drove the Etruscans from Rome in 509 B.C.
Mike how can you show your face here? Your credibility is shot.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
^Or these from Roman tombs?
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Lioness - Put on clean panties and address the evidence - please.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: ^Or these from Roman tombs?
LOL!
Lyinass died in this thread babbling empty echoes as she took her last breath...
As Caucasians kept coming in, Rome soon became a large city, similar to the powerful cities of southern Etruria, and it had also become predominately Caucasian. Accordingly, it was a Caucasian uprising that drove the Etruscans from Rome in 509 B.C.
Mike how can you show your face here? Your credibility is shot.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
^Point?
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: ^Point?
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111:
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: ^Point?
the point is that to say Rome was predominantly Caucasian after 509 B.C. is completely opposite of what Ironedlion is saying. He says that there were no Caucasians or people mixed with Caucasians until after 400 AD, much less that Rome was majority Caucasian any time prior to 476 AD. I have to explain this?
As Caucasians kept coming in, Rome soon became a large city, similar to the powerful cities of southern Etruria, and it had also become predominately Caucasian. Accordingly, it was a Caucasian uprising that drove the Etruscans from Rome in 509 B.C.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness:
painting created in Pompeii, Italy
Lioness - why didn't you post these - also from Pompeii?
^^ I call this how Trajan was born in Roman Iberia... Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness:
quote:
quote: ^Point?
the point is that to say Rome was predominantly Caucasian after 509 B.C. is completely opposite of what Ironedlion is saying. He says that there were no Caucasians or people mixed with Caucasians until after 400 AD, much less that Rome was majority Caucasian any time prior to 476 AD. I have to explain this?
quote:
I knew you were hopeless, But you are in a worse shape than I had imagined.
You not only cannot write well.. you certainly cannot read well.
READ THE EVIDENCE PRESENTED and MAKE UP YOUR MIND!
Stop complaining, either debunk the evidence or accept it!
So far, you have failed woefully with those spams of "hot fake Romano-Muurish curls"
Jeeeezeee, Bytch, put up or shut up! Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
Pompeii, uncut
oh this guy is some kind of multiracial Moor. ok. I have no argument. he's a brotherman
better quality photo. As you know wearing beards is not an African tradition unless Islam influenced. See how the photo I paste actually shows the green colors? Inevitably poorer quality photos get chosen because they have distorted contrast which makes the item look darker than they actually are, tricknology.
damn these guys are actually even darker than that big dick guy, I wonder if their dicks are as big Sicilian cops a feel of Neapolitan
Lion!
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: ^Or these from Roman tombs?
LOL!
Lyinass died in this thread babbling empty echoes as she took her last breath...
Lioness
The goths were pink ass, blue eyes and red hair.
The Roman figure on the Roman fresco above is dark skinned, brown eyes and black woolly hair.
He could use bleaching cream on his brown skin if he had wished..
Would you use bleaching cream on your pink arse?
Respond...
Red Hair blue eyes pink skin Gotha Bwoi Justin Timberlake: Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness:
This is Justin Timberlake's natural hair.
If someone were to make a portrait of him in stone you would say he's black.
That's why no one takes your clowning seriously.
Although there are people who have ambiguous facial features between African and Caucasians there are many Caucasians who do not look ambiguous they look most definitely European.
You have a complete inability to sense that. ....forget about the hair, if you can't sense that Europeans, not Africans match the features and forehead of this portrait of Augustus you have a learning disability.
It is clear as day, not even slightly ambiguous.
LOL!
The natural and straight animal hair of Justin Timberlake when he is not going to a hair dresser. No hope for lyingass, can you see his real animal hair now. An albino with curly hair was not yet born.
Now Lyinass
Name me the gene that causes curly hair in Albinos? Go ahead dunce, name it?
The one that causes animal hair in Albinos is called THADA. I gave that you you already.
The one that causes pink skin is called defective OCA.
The one that causes coloured eyes and coloured hair is called MC1R.
What is the name of the gene that causes curly hair in Albino Europeans, if any?
Do you use tanning lotions like all Albinos do or do you use BLEACHING CREAM like the Roman women?
Stop playing games and start debatiing!
Lion!
Dont forget this lesson!
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Lesson on Roman Ethnicity: Muurish or Gothic?
Real ancient Roman Muurish Curly locks type
True Muurish curly hair
True Blood real Muurish curls
True Blood true Muurish curly locks
Alex Siddig Half Sudanese, half British
Fake hot locks of Justin Gotha boi
Real neanderthal type hair of Justin Gotha boi real blue eyes, real pale skin
GOTHA ANCESTOR Hairssss! Eyesss, pales
NOW YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE...
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
Name me the gene that causes curly hair in Albinos?
I don't know about albinos, but hair genetics in modern Europeans is discussed below. The study mentioned discusses straight hair in Europeans and it's variants wavy and curly within Europeans. The gene is called the Trichohyalin gene (TCHH).
Australian scientists have identified the gene that strongly influences whether you have curly hair.
The trichohyalin gene has long been known to play some role in the development of the hair follicle.
Now the researchers at the Queensland Institute of Medical Research (QIMR) have found that it is the main gene responsible for creating curls.
Their study appears in the latest edition of the American Journal of Human Genetics .
Head of the QIMR Genetic Epidemiology Laboratory and co-author of the research, Professor Nick Martin says that it is variation in this gene that determines the straightness or curliness of hair. Evolutionary trait
Japanese research has previously found the genetic variations for the thick, straight hair that is predominant in Asian populations.
The differences in the EDAR and FGFR2 genes were identified last year and are thought to have occurred as part of the evolution of Asian populations following their prehistoric divergence from Europeans.
Martin and colleague Dr Sarah Medland sought to find a similar variation responsible for curly hair in those of European descent. It is known that 45% of European people have straight hair, 40% have wavy hair and 15% have curly hair.
They had previously established the heritability of curly hair, finding there was as much as a 90% chance of it being an inherited trait.
In the most recent work, researchers at the QIMR laboratory analysed data collected from a study of 5000 twins in Australia over a 30 year period.
"We had large amounts of information on a diverse range of traits," says Martin.
The twins had previously been asked if their hair was straight, wavy or curly and the lab then sought to match the reports with the 2.5 million single-nucleotide polymorphisms (SNPs) they had mapped on the twins' genomes.
Martin says it was a "Bingo!" moment when the results showed a big hit on chromosome one, right over the trichohyalin gene.
"This is a gene that has been known for well over twenty years as being involved in hair production and it's a gene that sits in the sheath that's around hair root bulbs," says Martin. Forensic tool
There is still more work to be done to determine exactly which variant of the gene influences hair curliness.
Biologically, hair curliness is governed by the distribution of hair keratins and cell types within the hair fibre.
Martin believes that one of the variations which creates an amino acid change, may be the likely candidate.
But, he says it's very difficult to determine exactly how the amino acid works to alter the protein.
"What we do know about curly versus straight hair is that it's very much a biochemical property of the hair root sheath," says Martin.
While it is anticipated that the new knowledge may have implications for the cosmetics industry, it is also likely to help in forensics providing more accurate identification of individuals based on their genes.
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Iron you're like a broken record now, you keep putting up the same photos. Everybody in the world except you knows that there are curly haired white people in the world. Also if you cut the hair short it can be too short for the curls to form. Some people who have curly hair do this if they don't like it to curl or the straighten it artificially. To say that there is no such thing as a curly haired white person is ignorant. Often you can tell it's real because it isn't uniform.
you need to get out more, apparently you haven't seen the world
remember, if you don't like what you see, just say it's fake. That's what a scholar would do. If they see something in history they didn't like just erase it. right?
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Lioness - Those people all show obvious Black admixture. If you want to make your point, you must find a Dravidian Albino with curly hair.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:It is known that 45% of European people have straight hair, 40% have wavy hair and 15% have curly hair.
Your source says 15% Albinos a tiny minority of Albinos inherited curly hair probably from their Muurish ancestors. You are a mulatoo nationalist, so you know what I mean.
But the scary part is the other part of you, the 85% who do not have this gene...
The rest 85% well, who are those?
Now, point out the gene responsible for the "brown" skin of the Europeans as the Romans have been shown to be brown and black skinned like olives?
The root of the other 85%: Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: ^Or these from Roman tombs?
LOL!
Lyinass died in this thread babbling empty echoes as she took her last breath...
Lioness
The goths were pink ass, blue eyes and red hair.
The Roman figure on the Roman fresco above is dark skinned, brown eyes and black woolly hair.
He could use bleaching cream on his brown skin if he had wished..
Would you use bleaching cream on your pink arse?
Respond...
Red Hair blue eyes pink skin Gotha Bwoi Justin Timberlake:
The hurdles facing you are much more than spamming a few "hot romano-muurish fake curls" as you have done.
The Romans were also brown skinned for they bleached their skin;
The Romans were also dark eyed;
Many Romans had woolly hair not just curly hair;
And they saw themselves as a different nation than the Goths.
That was why Tacitus declared: "the goths to be a nation unto themselves..."
Are the foregoing true or false?
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: [QB]
quote:It is known that 45% of European people have straight hair, 40% have wavy hair and 15% have curly hair.
They had previously established the heritability of curly hair, finding there was as much as a 90% chance of it being an inherited trait.
Your source says 15% Albinos a tiny minority of Albinos inherited curly hair probably from their Muurish ancestors. You are a mulatoo nationalist, so you know what I mean.
But the scary part is the other part of you, the 85% who do not have this gene...
The rest 85% well, who are those?
Julius Caesar
Augustus
Claudius
vespasian
Tiberius
Caligula
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
Now, point out the gene responsible for the "brown" skin of the Europeans as the Romans have been shown to be brown and black skinned like olives?
p53 gene
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: [QB] Lioness - Those people all show obvious Black admixture.
Then they must be related to the people from Etruria. People related to the Romans after 509 BC were predominantly Caucasian as is stated by realhistoryww.com.
As Caucasians kept coming in, Rome soon became a large city, similar to the powerful cities of southern Etruria, and it had also become predominately Caucasian.Accordingly, it was a Caucasian uprising that drove the Etruscans from Rome in 509 B.C.
Maybe realhistoryww.com should be revised to reflect Ironedlion's new findings.
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
By the Roman period, much of the "Greek" population of Faiyum was made-up of either Hellenized Egyptians or people of mixed Egyptian-Greek origins.
While commonly believed to represent Greek settlers in Egypt, the Faiyum portraits instead reflect the complex synthesis of the predominant Egyptian culture and that of the elite Greek minority in the city. According to Walker, the early Ptolemaic Greek colonists married local women and adopted Egyptian religious beliefs, and by Roman times, their descendants were viewed as Egyptians by the Roman rulers, despite their own self-perception of being Greek. The dental morphology of the Roman-period Faiyum mummies was also compared with that of earlier Egyptian populations, and was found to be "much more closely akin" to that of ancient Egyptians than to Greeks or other European populations (Romans).
this is a fairly good match:
it's sad the beating Ironedlion has taken on this thread
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness: Lah...lah...blaaaaa
this is a fairly good match:
it's sad the beating Ironedlion has taken on this thread
Emperor Severus Alexander
Emperor Septimus
Emperor Marcus Aurelius
Meditations on curly locks
Brown Boi, curly hair: Marcus Aurielus Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: Romano Moorish Emperor Valentin III
The Colour of the True Romans
Emperor Valentine III Romano-Moorish Brown Boi
Afrika Boi Emperor Aemilian
Moorish Boi Emperor Marcus Aurielus in true colours
Afrika Boi Emperor Severus Alexander
Afrika Roman Brown Empress Galla
Lesson for Lioness
You now know why Romans bleach. Would you bleach your pink arse? Name me the gene which makes your Goth-ed arse "brown" Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: [QB]
quote:It is known that 45% of European people have straight hair, 40% have wavy hair and 15% have curly hair.
They had previously established the heritability of curly hair, finding there was as much as a 90% chance of it being an inherited trait.
Your source says 15% Albinos a tiny minority of Albinos inherited curly hair probably from their Muurish ancestors. You are a mulatoo nationalist, so you know what I mean.
But the scary part is the other part of you, the 85% who do not have this gene...
The rest 85% well, who are those?
MIX BLOOD: MOORISH/SLAVAS OF ROME:
Julius Caesar
Augustus
Tiberius
Caligula
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
Now, point out the gene responsible for the "brown" skin of the Europeans as the Romans have been shown to be brown and black skinned like olives?
p53 gene
MIXED BLOOD SUDANESE/BRITISH OF MODERN TIME
Alex Siddig Sudanese/British
Now, point out the gene responsible for the "brown" skin of the Europeans as the Romans have been shown to be brown and black skinned like olives?
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:
quote:
quote:[QB] [QUOTE]
MIX BLOOD: MOORISH/SLAVAS OF ROME:
Julius Caesar
Augustus
Alex Siddig Tiberius
Caligula
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
Now, point out the gene responsible for the "brown" skin of the Europeans as the Romans have been shown to be brown and black skinned like olives?
p53 gene
MIXED BLOOD SUDANESE/BRITISH OF MODERN TIME
Alex Siddig Sudanese/British
Now, point out the gene responsible for the "brown" skin of the Europeans as the Romans have been shown to be brown and black skinned like olives?
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
The Moorish African Emperors of Rome
Septimus Severus
NB: Septimus Severus was a Numidian African Moor from North Africa. He was the founder and ancestor of all the members of the Severan Dynasty.
Septimus Severus was an African Roman, who attacked Rome with his legion and after the death of the late Emperor and took over the Empire after much struggle.
Septimus Severus army was composed mostly of African Moorish Cavalry troops...all dreadlocks!
Posted by A Simple Girl (Member # 18316) on :
The ancient Roman statues actually look more caucasian than the modern day Italians. Thanks guys. Keep up the good work and keep them coming. Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by A Simple Girl: The ancient Roman statues actually look more caucasian than the modern day Italians. Thanks guys. Keep up the good work and keep them coming.
We definitely will keep it up!
RECALL THIS LESSON
Gotha bwoi Justin Timberlake, red straight hair, blue eyes, pale skin
Physical Characteristics of Romano-Moorish type Olive skin, dark wooly to straight hair, black eyes Olive skin
Olive skin
Olive skin
Tacitus is a brown Romano describing the physical attributes of the Gotha.
He says Gotha was albinos originale, red hair, blondies, blue eyes and pale skin... unlike no other nation known to him.
If Romans were albinos with red hair and blue eyes, and pale skin, why then is Tacitus saying here that only Goths look that way?
Romans must have looked very different from Gotha Germanica...read:
quote:Physical Characteristics Gotha/Vandal
"For my own part, I agree with those who think that the tribes of Germany .....like none but themselves. Hence, too, the same physical peculiarities throughout so vast a population.
All have fierce blue eyes, red hair, huge frames, fit only for a sudden exertion.
They are less able to bear laborious work. Heat and thirst they cannot in the least endure; to cold and hunger their climate and their soil inure them..."
Tacitus
Comments???
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by A Simple Girl: [qb] The ancient Roman statues actually look more caucasian than the modern day Italians. Thanks guys. Keep up the good work and keep them coming.
We definitely will keep it up!
RECALL THIS LESSON
yes RECALL THIS LESSON:
Emperor: Nero
Nero-He was about the average height, his body marked with spots and malodorous, his hair light blond, his features regular rather than attractive, his eyes blue and somewhat weak, his neck over thick, his belly prominent, and his legs very slender.
Augustus: He had clear, bright eyes, in which he liked to have it thought that there was a kind of divine power, and it greatly pleased him, whenever he looked keenly at anyone, if he let his face fall as if before the radiance of the sun; but in his old age he could not see very well with his left eye. His teeth were wide apart, small, and ill-kept; his hair was slightly curly and inclining to golden; his eyebrows met. His ears were of moderate size, and his nose projected a little at the top and then bent slightly inward.110 His complexion was between dark and fair.
.After three Punic wars, finally in 149 BC Rome defeated and destroyed Carthage, North Africa. After Rome emerged victorious, Carthaginian settlements, such as those in Mauritania, were taken over by Roman colonists. then Ironlion bent down and kissed their sandals
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by A Simple Girl: [qb] The ancient Roman statues actually look more caucasian than the modern day Italians. Thanks guys. Keep up the good work and keep them coming.
We definitely will keep it up!
RECALL THIS LESSON
yes RECALL THIS LESSON:
Emperor: Nero
Nero-He was about the average height, his body marked with spots and malodorous, his hair light blond, his features regular rather than attractive, his eyes blue and somewhat weak, his neck over thick, his belly prominent, and his legs very slender.
I went to your source, and it turns out it was a book written in 1914 by a wet-dreaming Albinos Gotha.
J. C. Rolfe, Suetonius, The Lives of the Twelve Caesars, London, 1913-14.
Lyingass gal, you are proving true to type! LoL!
You must be silly to use a ficional work written in 1914, to describe the physical features of Nero who lived in ancient Rome more than 2000 years ago?
Why not use a source from 2000 years ago?
Tacitus was a Roman who lived 2000 years ago.
He wrote that Gothas looked strange because they were albinos with blond and red hair.
Physical Characteristics Gotha/Vandal
"For my own part, I agree with those who think that the tribes of Germany .....like none but themselves. Hence, too, the same physical peculiarities throughout so vast a population.
All have fierce blue eyes, red hair, huge frames, fit only for a sudden exertion.
They are less able to bear laborious work. Heat and thirst they cannot in the least endure; to cold and hunger their climate and their soil inure them..."
Tacitus
Gothas came from central Asia. At that time they looked ike this:
Gothas
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: The Moorish African Emperors of Rome
Septimus Severus
NB: Septimus Severus was a Numidian African Moor from North Africa. He was the founder and ancestor of all the members of the Severan Dynasty.
Septimus Severus was an African Roman, who attacked Rome with his legion and after the death of the late Emperor and took over the Empire after much struggle.
Septimus Severus army was composed mostly of African Moorish Cavalry troops...all dreadlocks!
Septimus Severus
After arrivng from Africa and conquering Rome, Septimus spawed a dynasty that lasted for more than 200 years.
Of all the Roman Emperors, he is the most significant because he was the game changer. His reign brought the wake of the imperial epogee of Rome, in terms of geographical expansion.
His children ruled after his death. Then his nephews, then his in-laws, then his cousins.
Septimus Severus, one could say was the greatest Emperor of Rome.
He was from Mauritania. A Numidian by birth.
Brown skin and woolly hair!
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
Septimus Severus
note: his hair is not red
Moorish Science is a cult
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
recall who the Neanderthals were having sex with:
Posted by Just call me Jari (Member # 14451) on :
Let the Lies Stop..
LET THE LIES STOP!!!
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Emperor Aemilian
Emperor Aemilian was born in the Roman province of Africa. According to the 4th century source Epitome de Caesaribus, he was born at Girba (modern Djerba, an island off the coast of Tunisia) and was a Moor; a reference in the same source hints that he was born around 207.
Epitome de Caesaribus, 31.1–2.
Aemilian Crush the Goths
In 253 the Goths, led by king Cniva, protested not having received the tribute due by the Romans according to the treaty of 251 and crossed the border, attacking Cappadocia, Pessinus, and Ephesus; the opinion of modern historians is that this missing payment was not a change in Roman policy, and the Goths were more likely trying to capitalize on their military prowess.
Aemilian had command of the army assigned to defend the area.
Aemilian exhorted them, reminding them of Roman honour (according to Zosimus) and promising tribute from the Goths (according to Zonaras). The Romans took the Goths by surprise, killing most of them, followed by an invasion of their territory which resulted in booty and the liberation of prisoners.
The Roman soldiers, gathered by Aemilian, acclaimed him Emperor. Jordanes claims, however, that Aemilian's troops plundered Roman territory, rather than keep the tribute of the Goths.
There were Roman cavalries but Trajan also used Moors to fight for the empire:
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
^Emperor Aemilianus was a moor
Emperor Septimus was a moor
Emperor Caracalla was a moor
Emperor Severus Alexander was a moor
Emperess Galla Placiada was a moor
Was Trajan a Goth?
Please respond...
Lady Galla, brown sugar Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
Was Trajan a Goth?
Please respond...
no
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
Was Trajan a Goth?
Please respond...
no
Good
Was Emperor Aemilianus a Moor?
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Lioness - Those people all show obvious Black admixture. If you want to make your point, you must find a Dravidian Albino with curly hair.
Didio Julianus Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
Was Trajan a Goth?
Please respond...
no
Good
Was Emperor Aemilianus a Moor?
No response??
Ok, was Lady Galla Placiada a moor? Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Romano-Mooish Emperor Dominiciano Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: Romano-Mooish Emperor Dominiciano
Romano-Moorish Emperor Licinus Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: Romano-Moorish Emperor Vespasianus
Moorish Roman Emperor Maxentius
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: Romano-Moorish Emperor Vespasianus
Moorish Roman Emperor Maxentius
Romano-Moorish Marcus Aurielus Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Romano-Moorish Emperor Titus Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: Brown Muurish ethnicity was elite and Royalty of Rome.
quote:Originally posted by
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: It must be very difficult to find that everything that your own kind taught you, and everything that you believed, was nothing but a bullsh1t lie. Love and kisses to you Lioness.
It's sad you want to be the colonists, mentally sick
the lips... the skin colour... the hair... of a modern Sudanese...
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Lyinass, you dead or alive?
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
Was Trajan a Goth?
Please respond...
no
Good
Was Emperor Aemilianus a Moor?
Still waiting...please respond
Posted by Spiralman (Member # 16230) on :
I can never understand how Afrocentrists can believe in such extreme diffusionist theories. Arguing with these people is like arguing with a religious fanatic. They think they made China, They think they made Mesopotamia, They think they made Minoa, Ancient, Greece, America and Rome. They really think they made it all yet none of these things from written language, science, civilization, architecture existing outside the continent exists in their own lands where such black peoples reside. How strange.
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
I think I've had it wrong all this time. I just didn't realize what the definition of a "moor" is.
________________________
moor
n.
a curly haired person
___________________________
thank you Iron lion,
proceed:
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness: I think I've had it wrong all this time. I just didn't realize what the definition of a "moor" is.
________________________
moor
n.
a curly haired person
___________________________
thank you Iron lion,
quote:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion
quote::Originally posted by Lyinass
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
Was Trajan a Goth?
Please respond...
no
Good
Was Emperor Aemilianus a Moor?
Still waiting...please respond
Still waiting...
Are you playing dead or dumb?
Please respond.... Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by Spiralman: I can never understand how Afrocentrists can believe in such extreme diffusionist theories. Arguing with these people is like arguing with a religious fanatic. They think they made China, They think they made Mesopotamia, They think they made Minoa, Ancient, Greece, America and Rome. They really think they made it all yet none of these things from written language, science, civilization, architecture existing outside the continent exists in their own lands where such black peoples reside. How strange.
Haha.. This is Afrocentrism:
Moorish Roman Emperor Maxentius
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: Brown Muurish ethnicity was elite and Royalty of Rome.
quote:Originally posted by
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: It must be very difficult to find that everything that your own kind taught you, and everything that you believed, was nothing but a bullsh1t lie. Love and kisses to you Lioness.
the lips... the skin colour... the hair... of a modern Sudanese...
Lyinass
It is possible and plausible that the brown persons above could have if they wanted to look paler, easily bleached their skin to look pink-paler and less brown.
You, Lyinass, with your pink-pale arse; would you tan your pink-pale ass to look browner or would you bleach your pinkie-arse to look pink-pale?
But then it is already pink-pale, so why bleach it? Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness: I think I've had it wrong all this time. I just didn't realize what the definition of a "moor" is.
________________________
moor
n.
a curly haired person
___________________________
blah blah blah:
Add also:
Brown/Black skin;
North African Ethnicity or descent;
Like the original maurisian-iberians of Spain and the Nigri-Latinis of Italia, and Central Europe; the Moor-Lachs of Mount Negro Bosian, Slovenia; the Black Celts of Britain, like the Silures and the Fomorians of Ireland.
the lips... the skin colour... the hair... of a modern Sudanese...
BUT THIS GUY BELOW IS GOTHA ORIGINALE:
He came into Europe from Central Asia after 2nd century AD. He got a little bit of culture from humane benefactors. But he also brought strange new diseases to Europe, leprous and black death. Just like with the small pox epidemic amongst the American Indians, the black Europeans got diminished. Then with his treacherous low life cunning, Gotha took over Europa. Then on to Africa, Americas, Asia, he was finally released from the cave prison....
Destroying, corrupting and telling lies about how he was the Romans...
Aha but time will tell
Now we all know who we are, time is running short!
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: Emperor Aemilian
Emperor Aemilian was born in the Roman province of Africa. According to the 4th century source Epitome de Caesaribus, he was born at Girba (modern Djerba, an island off the coast of Tunisia) and was a Moor; a reference in the same source hints that he was born around 207.
Epitome de Caesaribus, 31.1–2.
Aemilian Crush the Goths
In 253 the Goths, led by king Cniva, protested not having received the tribute due by the Romans according to the treaty of 251 and crossed the border, attacking Cappadocia, Pessinus, and Ephesus; the opinion of modern historians is that this missing payment was not a change in Roman policy, and the Goths were more likely trying to capitalize on their military prowess.
Aemilian had command of the army assigned to defend the area.
Aemilian exhorted them, reminding them of Roman honour (according to Zosimus) and promising tribute from the Goths (according to Zonaras). The Romans took the Goths by surprise, killing most of them, followed by an invasion of their territory which resulted in booty and the liberation of prisoners.
The Roman soldiers, gathered by Aemilian, acclaimed him Emperor. Jordanes claims, however, that Aemilian's troops plundered Roman territory, rather than keep the tribute of the Goths.
Hallo, y'all red necks red-haired (wanna-be-Romans) pink-ass Goths What do you have to say now?
The Moorish Roman Emperor is crushing your pink butts!
Lion!
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
Emperor Aemilian
Emperor Aemilian was born in the Roman province of Africa. According to the 4th century source Epitome de Caesaribus, he was born at Girba (modern Djerba, an island off the coast of Tunisia) and was a Moor; a reference in the same source hints that he was born around 207.
Epitome de Caesaribus, 31.1–2.
Aemilian Crush the Goths
In 253 the Goths, led by king Cniva, protested not having received the tribute due by the Romans according to the treaty of 251 and crossed the border, attacking Cappadocia, Pessinus, and Ephesus; the opinion of modern historians is that this missing payment was not a change in Roman policy, and the Goths were more likely trying to capitalize on their military prowess.
Aemilian had command of the army assigned to defend the area.
Aemilian exhorted them, reminding them of Roman honour (according to Zosimus) and promising tribute from the Goths (according to Zonaras). The Romans took the Goths by surprise, killing most of them, followed by an invasion of their territory which resulted in booty and the liberation of prisoners.
The Roman soldiers, gathered by Aemilian, acclaimed him Emperor. Jordanes claims, however, that Aemilian's troops plundered Roman territory, rather than keep the tribute of the Goths.
Hallo, y'all red necks red-haired (wanna-be-Romans) pink-ass Goths What do you have to say now?
The Moorish Roman Emperor is crushing your pink butts!
Lion!
Rise o fallen (moorish) fighters rise up and take your stands again for he who fights and runs away lives to fight another day...
To put the heathens back there on the wall put the heathen back there on the wall...
Bob Marley 1932 - live itinualy! Posted by Just call me Jari (Member # 14451) on :
quote:Originally posted by Spiralman: I can never understand how Afrocentrists can believe in such extreme diffusionist theories. Arguing with these people is like arguing with a religious fanatic. They think they made China, They think they made Mesopotamia, They think they made Minoa, Ancient, Greece, America and Rome. They really think they made it all yet none of these things from written language, science, civilization, architecture existing outside the continent exists in their own lands where such black peoples reside. How strange.
Never thought I would ever agree with you, but you are right, Iron Lion has an inferority complex so she actually see's blacks when she posts images of White Europeans..LOL
Iron Lion would be licking the Sandals of the white Romans..
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by Just call me Jari: Never thought I would ever agree with you, but you are right, Iron Lion has an inferority complex so she actually see's blacks when she posts images of White Europeans..LOL
Iron Lion would be licking the Sandals of the white Romans..
Yeah..like this white man here:
Emperor Aemilian
Emperor Aemilian was born in the Roman province of Africa. According to the 4th century source Epitome de Caesaribus, he was born at Girba (modern Djerba, an island off the coast of Tunisia) and was a Moor; a reference in the same source hints that he was born around 207.
Epitome de Caesaribus, 31.1–2.
Aemilian Crush the Goths
In 253 the Goths, led by king Cniva, protested not having received the tribute due by the Romans according to the treaty of 251 and crossed the border, attacking Cappadocia, Pessinus, and Ephesus; the opinion of modern historians is that this missing payment was not a change in Roman policy, and the Goths were more likely trying to capitalize on their military prowess.
Aemilian had command of the army assigned to defend the area.
Aemilian exhorted them, reminding them of Roman honour (according to Zosimus) and promising tribute from the Goths (according to Zonaras). The Romans took the Goths by surprise, killing most of them, followed by an invasion of their territory which resulted in booty and the liberation of prisoners.
The Roman soldiers, gathered by Aemilian, acclaimed him Emperor. Jordanes claims, however, that Aemilian's troops plundered Roman territory, rather than keep the tribute of the Goths.
St. Leo the Great was born in Tuscany. As deacon, he was dispatched to Gaul as a mediator by Emperor Valentinian III. He reigned as Pope between 440 and 461. He persuaded Emperor Valentinian to recognize the primacy of the Bishop of Rome in an edict in 445. The doctrine of the Incarnation was formed by him in a letter to the Patriarch of Constantinople, who had already condemned Eutyches. At the Council of Chalcedon this same letter was confirmed as the expression of Catholic Faith concerning the Person of Christ
All secular historical treatises eulogize his efforts during the upheaval of the fifth century barbarian invasion. His encounter with Attila the Hun, at the very gates of Rome persuading him to turn back, remains a historical memorial to his great eloquence. When the Vandals under Genseric occupied the city of Rome, he persuaded the invaders to desist from pillaging the city and harming its inhabitants. He died in 461, leaving many letters and writings of great historical value. His feast day is November 10th.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness: wheeee wheeee wheeee!
Put up or shut up! Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
GREAT ROMANO-MOORISH PERSONA
4th Century Pope Miltiades
St. Miltiades (Melchiades) Militiades 2 July 311–11 January 314
Born in Numidia Africa.
First pope after the end of the persecution of Christians through the Edict of Milan (313 AD) issued by Constantine the Great.
Miltiades was pope when the Roman Emperors Galerius and of Constantine and Licinius published Edicts of Toleration, each marking improvements in the relationship between the Roman government and Christianity.
During his pontificate, Emperor Constantine not only returned to Christians and the Chuch all of the land which had been confiscated under previous emperors, but he also donated to the Church the royal palace of empress Fausta - this would become the Lateran Palace (because it sits on the Lateran Hill), the residence of all future popes (except during the years when the papacy had been moved to Avignon, France).
Constantine also made the city of Byzantium the official seat of power for Rome, having long-lasting repercussions for both secular Rome and the Catholic Church. For Rome, it meant a long decline in power and prestige. For the Catholic Church, it meant a rival when it came to ecclesiastical power and influence, eventually leading to the schism between the Eastern and Western churches.....
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
The Moorish Scribes of Rome
Regard the Afros! Hotep! Black Power!
Look they can read!
Only the very priviledged could read and write in those days...
Regard, "the original Whites" of Rome
Bring it on red necks, bring it on!
Moorish Romano History 101..
Lion!
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Perpetua and Her Companions
Contemporary as Septimus Severus
Moorish Romans in full colour.
Sorry Lyinass, did that hurt???
You dead?
Lion!
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
A Black Irish....
Moorish St. Brigid of Ireland 450 AD
Fomorian, Black Irish...
"Original Whites"
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
The Black Angels of Rome
The Romans knew who the Gods and Goddesses were!
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
Emperor Aemilian
Emperor Aemilian was born in the Roman province of Africa. According to the 4th century source Epitome de Caesaribus, he was born at Girba (modern Djerba, an island off the coast of Tunisia) and was a Moor; a reference in the same source hints that he was born around 207.
Epitome de Caesaribus, 31.1–2.
Aemilian Crush the Goths
In 253 the Goths, led by king Cniva, protested not having received the tribute due by the Romans according to the treaty of 251 and crossed the border, attacking Cappadocia, Pessinus, and Ephesus; the opinion of modern historians is that this missing payment was not a change in Roman policy, and the Goths were more likely trying to capitalize on their military prowess.
Aemilian had command of the army assigned to defend the area.
Aemilian exhorted them, reminding them of Roman honour (according to Zosimus) and promising tribute from the Goths (according to Zonaras). The Romans took the Goths by surprise, killing most of them, followed by an invasion of their territory which resulted in booty and the liberation of prisoners.
The Roman soldiers, gathered by Aemilian, acclaimed him Emperor. Jordanes claims, however, that Aemilian's troops plundered Roman territory, rather than keep the tribute of the Goths.
Hallo, y'all red necks red-haired (wanna-be-Romans) pink-ass Goths What do you have to say now?
The Moorish Roman Emperor is crushing your pink butts!
Lion!
Rise o fallen (moorish) fighters rise up and take your stands again for he who fights and runs away lives to fight another day...
To put the heathens back there on the wall put the heathen back there on the wall...
Bob Marley 1932 - live itinualy!
Y'all Muurish youths out there reading remember, this research is for you my gift to your search for self...
It has been there been before your eyes yet hidden, by skillful manipulations and the shrill crazy cacophonies of lying pink-ass professors of his-tories!
Now you see your history with your own eyes... your true Muurish history not some lie of a cave spirit.
Now rise ye Muurish children rise and take your stands again for he who wakes up within himself lives to fight another day...
To put the heathens back there on the wall...; put the heathens back there on the wall
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Was Roman Empire white?
No, says Benjamin Franklin. I quote Benjamin Franklin in 1751:
"...Which leads me to add one Remark: That the Number of purely white People in the World is proportionably very small.
All Africa is black or tawny. Asia chiefly tawny. America (exclusive of the new Comers) wholly so.
And in Europe, the Spaniards, Italians, French, Russians and Swedes, are generally of what we call a swarthy Complexion; as are the Germans also, the Saxons only excepted, who with the English, make the principal Body of White People on the Face of the Earth.
I could wish their Numbers were increased. And while we are, as I may call it, Scouring our Planet, by clearing America of Woods, and so making this Side of our Globe reflect a brighter Light to the Eyes of Inhabitants in mars or Venus, why should we in the Sight of Superior Beings, darken its People?
why increase the Sons of Africa, by Planting them in America, where we have so fair an Opportunity, by excluding all Blacks and Tawneys , of increasing the lovely White and Red?
But perhaps I am partial to the complexion of my Country, for such Kind of Partiality is natural to Mankind."
Sorry Jari the pink ass Judas, did that wake you up?
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Lion, I wonder if you noticed that the White liars gave Marcus-Aurelius a new nose.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
I did see that Mike...
The patched up nose is so evident!
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111, realhistoryww.com:
"As Caucasians kept coming in, Rome soon became a large city, similar to the powerful cities of southern Etruria, and it had also become predominately Caucasian. Accordingly, it was a Caucasian uprising that drove the Etruscans from Rome in 509 B.C."
"the White man entered Europe (circa 1,200 B.C.)"
"we can safely use 1,200 B.C. as the approximate time of the White Invasion of Greece" (Hellenes)
"The Latin's (Romans) were originally a Hellenic tribe."
quote:Originally posted by Clyde Winters: The Greeks and Romans were very racist.
/close thread
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness:
quote:blah...blah...blah [/b]
quote:...blah blah baaaaa.
/close thread
So you wish, silly liar, but what is your hurry?
Have you been sorely embarrassed by the real Muurish Emperors of Rome? or by the fake hot Romano-Muurish wannabe curls that you advertise?
It ain't done sweetie till the fat lady sings! Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness: [qb]
quote:blah...blah...blah [/b]
quote:...blah blah baaaaa.
/close thread
So you wish, silly liar,
1) "As Caucasians kept coming in, Rome soon became a large city, similar to the powerful cities of southern Etruria, and it had also become predominately Caucasian. Accordingly, it was a Caucasian uprising that drove the Etruscans from Rome in 509 B.C."
2) "the White man entered Europe (circa 1,200 B.C.)"
3) "we can safely use 1,200 B.C. as the approximate time of the White Invasion of Greece" (Hellenes)
4) "The Latin's (Romans) were originally a Hellenic tribe."
^^^^are these lies?
yes or no?
Make it plain, in detail as per these statements or nobody can take you seriously anymore
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: Brown Muurish ethnicity was elite and Royalty of Rome.
quote:Originally posted by
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: It must be very difficult to find that everything that your own kind taught you, and everything that you believed, was nothing but a bullsh1t lie. Love and kisses to you Lioness.
the lips... the skin colour... the hair... of a modern Sudanese...
Lyinass
It is possible and plausible that the brown persons above could have if they wanted to look paler, easily bleached their skin to look pink-paler and less brown.
You, Lyinass, with your pink-pale arse; would you tan your pink-pale ass to look browner or would you bleach your pinkie-arse to look pink-pale?
But then it is already pink-pale, so why bleach it?
Do you bleach or tan? Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Meaning of "white":
Was Roman Empire white?
No, says Benjamin Franklin. I quote Benjamin Franklin in 1751:
"...Which leads me to add one Remark: That the Number of purely white People in the World is proportionably very small.
All Africa is black or tawny. Asia chiefly tawny. America (exclusive of the new Comers) wholly so.
And in Europe, the Spaniards, Italians, French, Russians and Swedes, are generally of what we call a swarthy Complexion; as are the Germans also, the Saxons only excepted, who with the English, make the principal Body of White People on the Face of the Earth.
I could wish their Numbers were increased. And while we are, as I may call it, Scouring our Planet, by clearing America of Woods, and so making this Side of our Globe reflect a brighter Light to the Eyes of Inhabitants in mars or Venus, why should we in the Sight of Superior Beings, darken its People?
why increase the Sons of Africa, by Planting them in America, where we have so fair an Opportunity, by excluding all Blacks and Tawneys , of increasing the lovely White and Red?
But perhaps I am partial to the complexion of my Country, for such Kind of Partiality is natural to Mankind."
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: [QUOTE] BUT THIS GUY BELOW IS GOTHA ORIGINALE:
He came into Europe from Central Asia after 2nd century AD. He got a little bit of culture from humane benefactors. But he also brought strange new diseases to Europe, leprous and black death. Just like with the small pox epidemic amongst the American Indians, the black Europeans got diminished. Then with his treacherous low life cunning, Gotha took over Europa. Then on to Africa, Americas, Asia, he was finally released from the cave prison....
Destroying, corrupting and telling lies about how he was the Romans...
Aha but time will tell
Now we all know who we are, time is running short!
Know thyself!
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by Just call me Jari: As We can See IronLiar's 3 sources cntradict each other...LMAO..
This Source says Nederthals had Hair and skin Variety on only 1% were MCR1 .....
Plus blah blah blah...different evolutionary paths to Red Hair..
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: ....[/b][/i]
Iron Lion Source.. [QUOTE]Originally posted by IronLion: [qb] ....
^^^ Now this clown finds some moron who claims "Scots" are Red Head neaderthal based on somebody's opion and not Biological studies or Genetic studies..and this..LMAO, depite the evidence showing that Neaderthals were not Humans not thought like Human beings..but even so, The Scots are One of many Caucasians.
blah...blah...blah...
OXFORD UNIVERSITY SCHOLAR vs. Jari the Gwoat:
Oxford University boffins at the Institute of Molecular Medicine say mischief and mayhem is in the genes - the gene that causes red hair.
Neanderthals were a thuggish race of bruisers who roamed Europe 50,000 years ago, living in caves.
It had been thought they were driven to extinction when modern man appeared on the scene from Africa 30,000 years ago.
But genealogist Dr Rosalind Harding says they survived and live on in red-haired Scots.
Around 10 per cent of Scots have red hair and a further 40 per cent carry the ginger gene.
But evolution expert Dr Harding claims that gene pre-dates the arrival of homo sapiens Homo sapiens
In fact, it could be up to 100,000 years old.
And he insists it could not have originated in Africa because it is also associated with freckles and fair skin.
These are traits which natural selection would never have allowed in the blistering African heat.
And that, say experts, suggests the gene must have come from the people that were here before modern man came out of Africa - the Neanderthals.
Rather than being driven out of existence, they say he may actually have formed relationships with the new arrivals.
Dr Harding said: "It seems to be the logical conclusion to what I am saying that all Scottish redheads are descended from Neanderthals..Neanderthals...Neanderthals....Neanderthaaaaaa
Where is Geri the pink Gwoat? Response?
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
With the coming of the [gothic/slavic slaves from central asia] with their pale skins and [blond hair], the Roman women began to use bleach and white based cosmetics in an attempt to appear to have a lighter skin tone.
They also tried bleaching their hair blonde. Possibly again to imitate the pale and classical looks of the northern slaves which seemed to excite the Roman male so much. However, they do not appear to have been too successful with their bleaches, as it has been recorded that they constantly wore wigs, made from the hair of the captured Gaulish women to cover up their own poor growths of hair.
Their constant quest for a pale [pink] skin also began to take its toll as the cosmetics they used were usually a w=hite lead Jerivative. This had a very poisonous and destructive effect on the skin and sent the ladies scurrying to every seller of appointments and creams in search of an antidote to restore them, at least, to their former looks.
quote: "...Which leads me to add one Remark: That the Number of purely white People in the World is proportionably very small.
All Africa is black or tawny. Asia chiefly tawny. America (exclusive of the new Comers) wholly so.
And in Europe, the Spaniards, Italians, French, Russians and Swedes, are generally of what we call a swarthy Complexion; as are the Germans also, the Saxons only excepted, who with the English, make the principal Body of White People on the Face of the Earth.
I could wish their Numbers were increased. And while we are, as I may call it, Scouring our Planet, by clearing America of Woods, and so making this Side of our Globe reflect a brighter Light to the Eyes of Inhabitants in mars or Venus, why should we in the Sight of Superior Beings, darken its People?
why increase the Sons of Africa, by Planting them in America, where we have so fair an Opportunity, by excluding all Blacks and Tawneys , of increasing the lovely White and Red?
But perhaps I am partial to the complexion of my Country, for such Kind of Partiality is natural to Mankind."
According to Herodian, Histories 1.15.2, when the emperor Commodian trained to be a gladiator, he took lessons from "the best Moorish spearsmen."
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"One settler one bullet" "One settler two bullets" --IronLion Genocide promoter
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Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
"Integer uitae scelerisque purus non eget Mauris iaculis neque arcu nec uenenatis grauida sagittis, Fusce, ..."
Translated:
"The man who is upright in life and free of sin has no need of Moorish spears or a bow or a quiver heavy with poisoned arrows, Fuscus, .."
- Horace, Ode 1.22
Posted by Just call me Jari (Member # 14451) on :
quote:Originally posted by NonProphet: "One settler one bullet" "One settler two bullets" --IronLion Genocide promoter
The Little Internet Radical Bitch would never dream of Going to S.A and telling them that to their face, the bitch would only be a man in a Group of 10 or more...Plus this I-Talian Wannabe Rasta would get Ass Raped and Robbed in South Africa, which is why she fled her Ass to America to live with Whitey(Seriously is it me or is it that none of These Africentics are working to build their Afrotopia...Why are they still In Europe and America talking about The United Snakes and americKKKa but they still Live here???)...
But let whites ever discriminate against Blacks or Arabs and these same racist Genocidical Internet Radicals will talk about how the white man is animalistic..LOL
Funny part is this bitch had the nerve to say she loves all people and is not a racist..LOL
The Nerve of these Coward Negros...
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by Just call me Jari:
quote:Originally posted by NonProphet: [qb] "One settler one bullet" "One settler two bullets" --IronLion Genocide promoter
blah...blah...blah... The Nerve of these Coward Negros...
Geri the Pink Gwoat Judass Jackass
I knew you was a fool.
Didn't realize you was also a kkkraker... and an ass-raper
Whao wonders will never end! Posted by Just call me Jari (Member # 14451) on :
The Nerve of this Bitch
Calling me White....
When she spent 11 Pages trying to prove she is a Roman Italian....
Scraping at the Boots of White Romans..LMAO
The Nerve of this coward Nigga
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by Just call me Jari:
quote:Originally posted by NonProphet: [qb] "One settler one bullet" "One settler two bullets" --IronLion Genocide promoter
blah...blah...blah... The Nerve of these Coward Negros...
Geri the Pink Gwoat Judass Jackass
I knew you was a fool.
Didn't realize you was also a kkkraker... and an ass-raper
Whao wonders will never end!
Posted by Just call me Jari (Member # 14451) on :
And the funny part is...
at the end of the day
Your Dumbass knows the Romans were white,
Which is why you spent so much time and effort to convince poeple they were black...
So at the end of the day, when its all said and done..
Its your dumbass Trying to be a "Kracker"(Dumbass does'nt even know the origin of that word..dumb ****)
There is no need to debate you...
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
THE MUURISH ROMAN EMPEROR MACRINUS
Marcus Opellius Macrinus (ca. 165 – June 218), commonly known as Macrinus, was Roman Emperor from 217 to 218. Macrinus was of Berber descent and the first emperor to become so without membership in the senatorial class
Born in Caesarea (modern Cherchell, Algeria) in the Roman province of Mauretania to an equestrian family, Macrinus received an education which allowed him to ascend to the Roman political class. Over the years he earned a reputation as a skilled lawyer. Under the emperor Septimius Severus he became an important bureaucrat. Severus' successor Caracalla appointed him prefect of the Praetorian guard. While Macrinus likely enjoyed the trust of Caracalla, this may have changed when, according to tradition, he was prophesied to depose and succeed the emperor. Rumors spread regarding Macrinus' alleged desire to take the throne for himself. Given Caracalla's tendency towards murdering political opponents, Macrinus probably feared for his own safety should the emperor become aware of this prophecy. According to Dio, Caracalla had already taken the step of re-assigning members of Macrinus' staff.
In the spring of 217, Caracalla was in the eastern provinces preparing a campaign against the Parthian Empire. Macrinus was among his staff, as were other members of the praetorian guard. In April, the emperor went to visit a temple of Luna near the spot of the battle of Carrhae, accompanied only by his personal bodyguard, which included Macrinus. Events are not clear, but it is certain that Caracalla was murdered at some point on the trip (perhaps on April 8). Caracalla's body was brought back from the temple by his bodyguards, along with the corpse of a fellow bodyguard. The story as told by Macrinus was that the dead guard had killed Caracalla. By April 11, Macrinus proclaimed himself emperor. Macrinus also nominated his son Diadumenianus Caesar and successor and conferred upon him the name "Antoninus", thus connecting him with the relatively stable reigns of the Antonine emperors of the 2nd century.
SORRY GWOAT DIDJA HURT??? AWWWW.... Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: THE MUURISH ROMAN EMPEROR MACRINUS
...s
SORRY GWOAT DIDJA HURT??? AWWWW....
Gwoat,
Was Roman Emperor Macrinus a Moor?
How many Moorish Roman Emperors have I shown your pink arse, how many???
Moors to come! Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: THE MUURISH ROMAN EMPEROR MACRINUS
Marcus Opellius Macrinus (ca. 165 – June 218), commonly known as Macrinus, was Roman Emperor from 217 to 218. Macrinus was of Berber descent and the first emperor to become so without membership in the senatorial class
Born in Caesarea (modern Cherchell, Algeria) in the Roman province of Mauretania to an equestrian family, Macrinus received an education which allowed him to ascend to the Roman political class. Over the years he earned a reputation as a skilled lawyer.
............
By April 11, Macrinus proclaimed himself emperor. Macrinus also nominated his son Diadumenianus Caesar and successor and conferred upon him the name "Antoninus", thus connecting him with the relatively stable reigns of the Antonine emperors of the 2nd century.
Romano Moorish Emperor Diadumenianus Caesar and his Dad, Romano Muurish Emperor Macrinus
Romano Moorish Emperor Diadumenianus
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by Just call me Jari: ...ba..ba..ba..
Your Dumbass knows the Romans were white,
blah blah baaa...
Gwoat, you mean whites like this Romano-Muurish Emperor Macrinus (bad Nigga)
Don't forget that the blacks of today are the first whites of Europe by colour of class.
You pinks declared yourself whites after 1776... Posted by Just call me Jari (Member # 14451) on :
Im done talking to you peasant
You're dismissed...
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by Just call me Jari: ...ba..ba..ba..
Your Dumbass knows the Romans were white,
blah blah baaa...
Gwoat, you mean whites like this Romano-Muurish Emperor Macrinus (bad Nigga)
Don't forget that the blacks of today are the first whites of Europe by colour of class.
You pinks declared yourself whites after 1776...
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by Just call me Jari: Im done talking to you peasant
ba...ba...ba...
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by Just call me Jari: ...ba..ba..ba..
Your Dumbass knows the Romans were white,
blah blah baaa...
Gwoat, you mean whites like this Romano-Muurish Emperor Macrinus (bad Nigga)
Don't forget that the blacks of today are the first whites of Europe by colour of class.
You pinks declared yourself whites after 1776...
Translated:
I give up!
So Folks,
The fool was floored by the sheer weight of Nigri-Latini Muurish Emperors of Rome.
The gwoat tot that Septimius Severus was the only black Emperor of Rome.. Until I let him feel the presence of the black emperors of Rome...
and the sheer number of the black Emperors of Rome simply brought home the realization that Rome was definitely not a white empire...
United States with its strong black population has so far produced only one unambiguously(?) black president...
Rome by comparision had more than 100 emperors with unambiguous African or Muurish descent
Think!
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
Emperor Macrinus
Emperor Macrinus
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
^^ Fakes as usual.
Look at the coinage issued by the black King himself in his lifetime...
Query for Lyinass:
Was Macrinus born in Algeria North Africa?
Was he a Numidian?
Was he Muurish?
Was he a Roman Emperor?
Can you describe him as Romano-Muurish?
Until now, have you ever heard of Emp. Macrinus?
I am waiting....
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Marcus Opellius Macrinus (ca. 165 – June 218), commonly known as Macrinus, was Roman Emperor from 217 to 218. Macrinus was of Berber descent and the first emperor to become so without membership in the senatorial class
Born in Caesarea (modern Cherchell, Algeria) in the Roman province of Mauretania to an equestrian family, Macrinus received an education which allowed him to ascend to the Roman political class. Over the years he earned a reputation as a skilled lawyer.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness:
Emperor Macrinus
Emperor Macrinus
Nose job:..very surgical indeed
Look at Nose Bridge
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: ^^ Fakes as usual.
Look at the coinage issued by the black King himself in his lifetime...
Query for Lyinass:
Was Macrinus born in Algeria North Africa?
Was he a Numidian?
Was he Muurish?
Was he a Roman Emperor?
Can you describe him as Romano-Muurish?
Until now, have you ever heard of Emp. Macrinus?
I am waiting....
True African!
IN FRENCH: Macrin (Marcus Opellius Macrinus) était Africain, comme Sévčre, et originaire de Cćsarea, le Cherchell de notre colonie algérienne. Il eut d’humbles commencements.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
^^Lyinass gal
What happind? You dodging again?
This is the umpeenth time that I have exposed your vacuous brain and mind for the world to see!
Sorry, did that hurt?
Lion
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Go big Cat, Go!
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Check out this picture of Bro Aristobolus, first century apostle who christianized the British Isle. First Bishop of Britain, black Jew, black Christian, and Cypriot scholar, in short a Muur of Europe, Nigri Latini...
Yes, we were the first christians too!
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
This one is a Welsh saint, St Deniol a picture is worth a thousand words... native born Wealas..Welsh!:
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
St Dewi (David) of Wales, the God-father of the Welsh Church Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by Just call me Jari:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Jari quote: Also I find it funny how the Romans are supposed to be black Africans, but we have the Pantheon in Paris, Palladian Motif in England, a Roman Bath in Britian, Baroque in Austria, Romanesque in France, Germany, and The British Isles..
Poor Uneducated Self Hating Negros don't realize how European and Anti-African Rome is and was..LOL
He, he, But Jari - didn't you tell us that YOU were Black?
Mieky I did not miss that too!
The young gwoat just destroyed himself.
Claiming to be black when you are pink is the lowest form of inferiority complex.
You see, when you burst their Roman fantasy bubble, the pinks lose it completely. Because that is their last false prop.
Lion!
LOL, Bitch only in your little mind did I get destroyed by Mike's Red Herring..
LOL, Roman Fantasy, Rome was what it was a Multi Ethnic Empire Ruled by White Europeans, were there black Roman citiens Yes, but few made it to Emperor status and you self hating Rusty black ass would have been calling the Blue Eyed albino Emperor Agustus Massa back then..little Bitch boy like you would probably lick the sand off his Sandals and Feet.
^^^^ Behold the Only Black Roman Emperor with his Albino Wife and Child...
Get back to the basement and put the crack pipe down Child..
Are you sure of that pink gwoat? Was Severus the only black Emperor of Rome? Check again, before you get super-embarrassed!
This morning, Lioness declared that the Severan dynasty was "pink-white" Do you want to consult with her before I begin dealing out the blows?
Lion!
So Geri Geri Judass,
Was Severus the only "black" emperor of Rome?
I will not stop until you call me "Uncle.."
Lion! Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
SEPTIMUS SEVERERUS
"Hey Vinny this black dude keeps smiling at me, what should I do?"
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111:
To summarize: The White man is merely a pigmentless Black man - an Albino. He is in no way different - except for skin color
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness:
quote:Originally posted by Mike111:
To summarize: The White man is merely a pigmentless Black man - an Albino. He is in no way different - except for skin color
MC1r Genetics 101
Muurish Dravidian: Baluchistan
Albino Dravidian:
Albino Dravidian
Muurish Sudanese Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Muurish Sudan
quote:Originally posted by the lioness: SEPTIMUS SEVERERUS (sic)
blah blah baaa...
The Black Emperors of Rome
Septimius Severus:
Founder of the African dynasty of Roman emperors, b. at Leptis Magna in Africa, 11 April, 146; d. at York, England, 4 February, 211. Severus came from a family that had become Roman citizens. In his career as an official at Rome and in the provinces he had been favored by the Emperor Marcus Aurelius. In the reign of Commodus he was appointed legate of the fourth legion on the Euphrates; this gave him the opportunity to become acquainted with affairs in the East. He married Julia Domna, a member of a priestly family of Emesa, who was the mother of Caracalla and Geta.
Marcus Opellius Macrinus (ca. 165 – June 218), commonly known as Macrinus, was Roman Emperor from 217 to 218. Macrinus was of Berber descent and the first emperor to become so without membership in the senatorial class
Born in Caesarea (modern Cherchell, Algeria) in the Roman province of Mauretania to an equestrian family, Macrinus received an education which allowed him to ascend to the Roman political class. Over the years he earned a reputation as a skilled lawyer.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: This one is a Welsh saint, St Deniol a picture is worth a thousand words... native born Wealas..Welsh!:
Lioness
Was St Deiniol a Muur?
Lion!
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: This one is a Welsh saint, St Deniol a picture is worth a thousand words... native born Wealas..Welsh!:
Lioness
Was St Deiniol a Muur?
Lion!
If Muur means swarthy he's a Muur
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Lion - please excuse my interference in your thread. But it appears that what we logically assumed to be true, IS true. The Hebrews were Black people, Jesus as a Hebrew was also Black, so logically the people who were originally spreading Jesus' words were also Black.
It appears this is demonstrable in Wales. Might I suggest that you start a separate thread to pursue this?
OK next project we are doing will be on the Muurs of Ireland, Scotland and Wales...
It is lots of work, but then evidence is there.
I mentioned the St of Welsh Orthodox Church because they were linked up with the centre in Eastern Rome and Anatolia the monasticism of Egypt and Nubia.
Maybe even a book... but first, we first deal with the skeptics and ignoramuses of Egypt Search...
They are such a joy tearing through...
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
so Iron, to sum up, Rome was basically black with a small smattering of whites, correct? I await your wisdom
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: This one is a Welsh saint, St Deniol a picture is worth a thousand words... native born Wealas..Welsh!:
Lioness
Was St Deiniol a Muur?
Lion!
If Muur means swarthy he's a Muur
Good. Regard, he was a black Welsh a Weallas, a son of the soil... 4th century Wales!
Does he look like your gothic or slavic ancestor?
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness: so Iron, to sum up, Rome was basically black with a small smattering of whites, correct? I await your wisdom
Rome was originally a plantation colony of Carthaginian black Lords owned largely by Baarka family and the Nigrinus family of Carthage.
It is true that the governors, freemen and the slaves of Rome rebelled against Carthage and won its independence in the two famous Punic wars. Which is why you find so many North African Roman Emperors, and high officials in Roman empire.
Free Romans were divided into Patricans and Freemen and Plebians. There was a huge concentration of Muurish people in the Patrician class as well as freemen.
The latins were mostly plebians they could pass for paler skin Pakistanis or Indians; You still see some today...
Thus you see that Roman was a collection of black and browns the Muurs, brunnettes, and Nigritaes.
The so-called whites, aka the pink-reds goths and slavics came in later over the course of the one thousand years of Rome's existence
The were the slaves, the preregrines, the harlots, and the plebians of Rome
When they increased sufficiently in number they took over the empire.
Seen?....
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Lioness
Any more question?
Is the point clear now to you?
Let me hear you out...
Lion!
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Geri Geri Judass
Do you have any more comments???
Did I hear you say "Uncle"?
Lion!
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: Rome was originally a plantation colony of Carthaginian black Lords owned largely by Baarka family and the Nigrinus family of Carthage.
Iron at what were the approximate years, the time period when Rome was founded ?
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
^^The Phoenicians were the overlords of the Etruscans who settled Italy....
Some Italian Outposts of the African Muurs:
The Phoenicians-Carthaginians (the Muurs) had been active on the Italian Pennisula before the year 2000 BC, but by 1200 BC they were firmly entrenched
Messene: In the early 5th century BC, Anaxilas of Rhegium renamed it Messene in honour of the Greek city Messene. The city was sacked in 397 BC by the Carthaginians... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messina
Marsala: Marsala occupies the site of Lilybaeum, the principal stronghold of the Carthaginians in Sicily, founded by Himilco in 396 BC after the abandonment of Motya. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marsala
Cagliari: It passed with the rest of the island first to the control of Carthage and then to Rome in 238 BC when the Romans defeated the Carthaginians. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cagliari
And hundreds of other cities across Europe, into Ireland and Scotland, Illyria, Caucasus, name it...
Infact, the name Europa, is the name of a Phoenician/African Muurish Goddess...
The land of Europe is named after a black woman.... Europa who was kidnapped by Zeus..
Honey, any more questions?
Lion!
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
The Etruscans the overlords of the latins and surrounding tribes, who gave Rome its civilization and culture was undeniably a black African people allied and connected with the Cartheginians. They were sea-faring like the Catheginians and had ancient ties and links with Phoenicia, Anatolia, Syria and Egypt:
Etruscans of Italy
You get the idea, darling?
Black ancient Romans! Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
You get the idea, darling?
Black ancient Romans! [/QB]
The Etruscan on the left is black?
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
^By Injection.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
You get the idea, darling?
Black ancient Romans!
The Etruscan on the left is black? [/QB]
No sweetie, he is white I told you we are the first whites!
Another view:
The revenge of the birds: Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
You get the idea, darling?
Black ancient Romans!
The Etruscan on the left is black?
No sweetie, he is white I told you we are the first whites!
so some Etruscans were whites, were they of Carthaginian background?
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
You get the idea, darling?
Black ancient Romans!
The Etruscan on the left is black?
No sweetie, he is white I told you we are the first whites!
so some Etruscans were whites, were they of Carthaginian background?
Well darling, your eyes must be seeing this white nigga from Carthage Africa... LOL!!!
What makes you think he is white? His dark skin?
Or his wooly hair? Real hot-muurish curls?
Or is it the albinos with him...?
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Brown-skin "whitess" of ancient Rome
Lioness, you still studying the movement?
Are you gonna call me "Uncle?"
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: Rome was originally a plantation colony of Carthaginian black Lords owned largely by Baarka family and the Nigrinus family of Carthage.
Iron at what were the approximate years, the time period when Rome was founded ?
Etruscan/Cartheginian Muurs
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
You get the idea, darling?
Black ancient Romans!
The Etruscan on the left is black?
No sweetie, he is white I told you we are the first whites!
so some Etruscans were whites, were they of Carthaginian background?
Well darling, your eyes must be seeing this white nigga from Carthage Africa... LOL!!!
What makes you think he is white? His dark skin?
Or his wooly hair? Real hot-muurish curls?
Or is it the albinos with him...?
I asked you earlier about the figure on the left with the blond curly hair and pale skin. This would indicate that some of the Etruscans were white in a period far prior to the goths.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
You get the idea, darling?
Black ancient Romans!
The Etruscan on the left is black?
No sweetie, he is white I told you we are the first whites!
so some Etruscans were whites, were they of Carthaginian background?
Well darling, your eyes must be seeing this white nigga from Carthage Africa... LOL!!!
What makes you think he is white? His dark skin?
Or his wooly hair? Real hot-muurish curls?
Or is it the albinos with him...?
I asked you earlier about the figure on the left with the blond curly hair and pale skin. This would indicate that some of the Etruscans were white in a period far prior to the goths.
quote:Originally posted by the lioness: so Iron, to sum up, Rome was basically black with a small smattering of whites, correct? I await your wisdom
Borrow some wisdom from your schizoprenic half... Your alter ego already knows the answer.
quote:Originally posted by the lioness:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: Rome was originally a plantation colony of Carthaginian black Lords owned largely by Baarka family and the Nigrinus family of Carthage.
Iron at what were the approximate years, the time period when Rome was founded ?
They were there waaaay before 1200BC
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Now Lioness, where is your animal Geri the Gwoat, he has been unusually quiet...
Have you been feeding him?
Geri the gwoat must come show us his "white-pink" Italian ancestors.... get your animal over here!
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness: so Iron, to sum up, Rome was basically black with a small smattering of whites, correct? I await your wisdom
Rome was originally a plantation colony of Carthaginian black Lords owned largely by Baarka family and the Nigrinus family of Carthage.
It is true that the governors, freemen and the slaves of Rome rebelled against Carthage and won its independence in the two famous Punic wars. Which is why you find so many North African Roman Emperors, and high officials in Roman empire.
Free Romans were divided into Patricans and Freemen and Plebians. There was a huge concentration of Muurish people in the Patrician class as well as freemen.
The latins were mostly plebians they could pass for paler skin Pakistanis or Indians; You still see some today...
Thus you see that Roman was a collection of black and browns the Muurs, brunnettes, and Nigritaes.
The so-called whites, aka the pink-reds goths and slavics came in later over the course of the one thousand years of Rome's existence
The were the slaves, the preregrines, the harlots, and the plebians of Rome
When they increased sufficiently in number they took over the empire.
Seen?....
Read Lioness...
It is good to read, before blattering irrelevancies.....
Etruscans, Carthagenians, Nigri-Latinis, were all Muurs, those you would call Black Africans of today....
They were in Italy for millenia...
They founded Rome... the rooted families. Patricians....
Yet Rome was always multi-ethnic.
There were also Greeks, Turanians, Scythians etc.
Those were the peregrines, immigrants, slaves, workers, slavics, and ...prostitues...
Why do you pretend that you cannot understand this basic fact?
Is it that something is not connecting?
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness: I asked you earlier about the figure on the left with the blond curly hair and pale skin. This would indicate that some of the Etruscans were white in a period far prior to the goths.
Lioness my dear - far be it from me to gloat; but I seem to detect a note of resignation. Could it be that the weight of evidence is starting to wear you down?
Buck-up sweet troll, there must be any number of asinine questions and comments still at your disposal.
Besides, you are made of sterner stuff than that. Albinos have carried out genocides that are still legendary, even today.
At the culmination of Caesar's war with Vercingetorix, and the Gauls surrender - It is estimated that one million persons died in the wars and another million was sold into slavery, draining Gaul of approximately one third of the entire population. At the end, Caesar had effected an unprecedented genocide.
With that proud Albino history, will you now be defeated by simple truth? Since when does a proud Albino pay even the slightest attention to truth? So buck-up old girl, find a new lie and move on.
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
The so-called whites, aka the pink-reds goths and slavics came in later over the course of the one thousand years of Rome's existence
The were the slaves, the preregrines, the harlots, and the plebians of Rome
When they increased sufficiently in number they took over the empire.
It is good to read, before blattering irrelevancies.....
Etruscans, Carthagenians, Nigri-Latinis, were all Muurs, those you would call Black Africans of today....
They were in Italy for millenia...
They founded Rome... the rooted families. Patricians....
Yet Rome was always multi-ethnic.
There were also Greeks, Turanians, Scythians etc.
Those were the peregrines, immigrants, slaves, workers, slavics, and ...prostitues...
Iron, are both people pictured above Etruscans? You mentioned white goths and slavics who came in later but the painting above is much earlier than this painting. So who is the person on the left?
. Etruscan Painting, Tomba dei Leopardi, Tarquinia - Italia 500 BC
Two Dancers, detail from the Etruscan Tomb of the Lionesses , Tarquinia, wall painting, size: NA, c. 480-470 B.C. (Tarquinia necropolis):
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from the Banditaccia necropolis, Cerveteri, and is known as the Sarcophagus dei Sposi.
Etruscan Bronze Head, Tarquinia, 4th Cent BCE
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
The so-called whites, aka the pink-reds goths and slavics came in later over the course of the one thousand years of Rome's existence
The were the slaves, the preregrines, the harlots, and the plebians of Rome
When they increased sufficiently in number they took over the empire.
It is good to read, before blattering irrelevancies.....
Etruscans, Carthagenians, Nigri-Latinis, were all Muurs, those you would call Black Africans of today....
They were in Italy for millenia...
They founded Rome... the rooted families. Patricians....
Yet Rome was always multi-ethnic.
There were also Greeks, Turanians, Scythians etc.
Those were the peregrines, immigrants, slaves, workers, slavics, and ...prostitues...
Iron, are both people pictured above Etruscans? You mentioned white goths and slavics who came in later but the painting above is much earlier than this painting. So who is the person on the left?
Two Dancers, detail from the Etruscan Tomb of the Lionesses , Tarquinia, wall painting, size: NA, c. 480-470 B.C. (Tarquinia necropolis):
Faking Historical Evidence Again .. shame!
Real Painting of the Etruscan Dancers
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
What year is the painting you are referencing?
Who are those black-brown curly haired muurish Etruscans in your fresco?
Where were your pink-albino ancestors at this time?
Where is your evidence?
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
the blond on the left
You mean the servant girl who gets fuched from time to time by her Etruscan master?
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
What year is the painting you are referencing?
Who are those black-brown curly haired muurish Etruscans in your fresco?
Where were your pink-albino ancestors at this time?
Where is your evidence?
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
the blond on the left
You mean the servant girl who gets fuched from time to time by her Etruscan master?
what is the nationality of the blond haired person on the left?
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: ^Was she Etruscan or Muurish?
Are you repeating my query?
Answer and elaborate more to me about your pink-white ancestors that built Rome.
I am all ears... Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by IronLion:
What year is the painting you are referencing?
Who are those black-brown curly haired muurish Etruscans in your fresco?
Where were your pink-albino ancestors at this time?
Where is your evidence?
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
the blond on the left
You mean the servant girl who gets fuched from time to time by her Etruscan master?
what is the nationality of the blond haired person on the left?
It's a reasonable question. If your ideas are correct then it should be no problem to answer this question. You are the one that posted this picture in the first place.
The fact that you don't seem to want to answer this simple question makes all what you said before seem less credible, not just to me but anyone else reading this thread.
Also the person on the left in this other picture you posted below:
This dated approximately 510 BC. The person on the left appears to be white. That seems certain, would you agree? Where did the person come from? Just give us a straightforward answer of guess and stop playing games, thank you
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
^ I won't even get into your childish game of dares... dunce queries from a certified dunce.
At this point you have no other retort than to cry about "the blond haired person on the left".
1)You have been taught that Carthage colonized Rome, you had no response...
2) You have been shown that the Etruscans the orignal ancient Romans were predominantly black people, with historical texts, with artefacts, and you could not refute this;
3) You have been shown Black Roman Emperors, Black Roman Empresses, Black Roman Priests and Scholars, Roman coins, and you had no answer;
4) You have seen Black Roman missionaries, Black Roman Bishops, and you had no response;
5) You were even shown Black Roman Gods and Goddesses, no response from you;
6) We gave you genetic studies that still link Italy genetically with Africa, and YOU HAD NO RESPONSE, except for:
"what about the blond person on the left"
Well Lioness, my favourite dunce, tell us about the blond person on the left. That is your story...to tell. We will listen...
My story is that Rome was an ethnically mixed empire where Black people had very high visibility and prominence, due to their historical attachment with Italy and Europe..
"2000 years of history, could not be wiped away so easily" - Bob Marley
"The king of Rome is a brother to the King of Ethiopia" - Kebra Negast
Case proven, case close.
If you have any real questions, Sugar, bring it on!
Lion!
Do you know Virgilus the Homer of Rome? He was an African:
Do you know the boxing champion of Rome and America? He was an African:
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
Mike, Iron posted these Etruscan paintings. He mentioned earlier that people with light skin in Rome came later with goths and slavics. But in many of these much earlier Etruscan frescos etc. we see these very light skinned people, sometimes with blond hair.
The above picture is from your site www.realhistoryww.com You seem to be calling the white people in these paintings "latins" rather than Etruscans. What is the origin of these "latin" white people?
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness:
Mike, Iron posted these Etruscan paintings. He mentioned earlier that people with light skin in Rome came later with goths and slavics. But in many of these much earlier Etruscan frescos etc. we see these very light skinned people, sometimes with blond hair.
The above picture is from your site www.realhistoryww.com You seem to be calling the white people in these paintings "latins" rather than Etruscans. What is the origin of these "latin" white people?
Before I beat you into submission you did not even acknowledge that black people had anything to do with ancient Rome.
Now you are reduced to struggling to identify any piece of "white" flotsam in a sea of Mauro-Romanos;
Now Lioness, who has got the inferior complex? Who was trying to falsely claim Rome? Who has been posting falsified images of ancient Romans? Who has now admitted a black foundation for Rome, only with the qualifier that "blonds were also there"? Who is desperately trying to save face?
Who was desperately putting up pictures of hot-fake Romano-Moorish curls?
A little humilty could have saved you all of this humiliation!
Now where is that your lil animal Jerri the pink mouse?
I wonder what he has got to say now?
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness: I asked you earlier about the figure on the left with the blond curly hair and pale skin. This would indicate that some of the Etruscans were white in a period far prior to the goths.
Lioness my dear - far be it from me to gloat; but I seem to detect a note of resignation. Could it be that the weight of evidence is starting to wear you down?
....
You said it right Mike, or to put it more precisely, you certainly described her predicament with graphic accuracy! Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Etruscan Achilles Achilles in Ambush." Mid 6th century B.C. A scene from the Illiad. The Trojan prince, Troilus, upon a stallion is ambushed at the well outside the walls of Troy by Achilles
Banquet Scene
Market Negotiation
The Muurs who founded Rome!
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Royalty of Ancient Rome
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: Royalty of Ancient Rome
Craftman of Ancient Rome
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness:
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
I see what you're saying Iron. If the two people in the above painting were to have children the child might look like the man on the left in the below photo or you in your rasta hat
But that still doesn't resolve the origin of the white person on the right in the above Etruscan painting hundreds of years before Julius Caesar. It seems to indicate that blond haired white people were in the region long before the Roman Empire and it show how your claim that white people only came in with the goths and slaves is incorrect.
The other example below that you posted earlier:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: Royalty of Ancient Rome
Craftman of Ancient Rome
Lyingass
Put up or shut up!!!!
Show us that African Muurswere not the founders of Rome, and that to claim so is a mark of inferiority complex...
Who is the liar now???? Who has been shown to be an ignoramus pretender?
Was Roman Empire White??? Do you bleach your pink ass???
What made you stop spam more pictures of some so-called white Roman Emperors?
Did you see the Muurs of Etrusca, and Carthage? The Muurs of Ireland and the Muurs of Wales? The Muurs of Anatolia, the Muurs of Greece? The Muurs of Africa the originalland of the Muurs
Are you gonna call me Uncle? I am waiting...
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness: [qb]
quote:... It seems to indicate that blond haired white people were in the region long before the Roman Empire and it show how your claim that white people only came in with the goths and slaves is incorrect.
The other example below that you posted earlier:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by IronLion:
Dunce
You fake a low attention span. But I will bury you with facts till you heal your wicked heart...
Read below carefully...
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: The no go area of popular fictionalized white bwoy history is that "the Aryans built Rome".
How true is this?
No it is a damned lie! The truth was that Rome was a multi-ethnic Empire. Any true scholar with the slightest mastery of classics will attest to this.
Rome as well as the entire southern and central and western Europe was built by aboriginal black Europeans sometimes called the mysterious Celts, NIGRI-LATINIS, the IBERIANS or the Maurs.
Sometimes authors attribute the origin of Rome to Etruscans, or to Greeks or to Canaanites. It is generally acknowledged that those three powers were themselves basically multi-ethnic, and also that the Canaanites were singularly black and African in origin.
Later we get an influx of barbarians nomads, who were assimilated and romanized.
Then slaves from the Slavic and Germanic tribes were captured from Northern Europe and used on Roman plantations in Central Europe.
And then one must not forget that the cultural founts of Rome was not anywhere on the European mainland but in North Africa, with Egypt and the province of Africa being the most sophisticated, and civilized in arts, science and culture. The cultural capital of the Roman Empire was Alexandria in Egypt.
All the inhabitants of the Roman provinces of Africa could easily attain to Roman citizenship and even aspire to become Emperors of Rome.
Not so for today's so-called white people who were actually called barbarians and hated by the Roman state and Empire. They were the threats of the day, the potential carries of contagions mental and spiritual, eroders of morality. Besides the oracles of Delphi had forcasted that barbarians whites would eventually overun the emipre.
They eventually did. Bursting the barriers of imperial Rome which had contained them in Central Europe, the barbarians gothic an slavic hordes swamped Rome, southern and central Europe, western Europe as well, bursted into Africa, and then onwards to the Americas and Australia. Like demons released from hell.
Those Barbarians are the direct ancestors of todays so-called Italians, French, Germans, English, Beligia, Holland, Sweden, Russia, and the whole of the so-called white races of todays Europa.
And those gothic descendants have spent a thousand years, re-writing history, destroying monuments, burning books and libraries, in an attempt to hide the truth about themselves, and to usurp the majesty and excellence of the great black civilizations. They would trick the black children (the real owners of this world) into a life of complancency and surbodination, wherein they are unable to assert their legitimacy.
Which is why they have invested so much energy in re-writing and retelling the story of the Roman Empire and its fall, at the hands of the barbarians so-called whites.
See the Roman Dread Locks Legion of Lucius Quietus, the Overall Commander of the Roman Legions
Any more questions??
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
The fact that the title of this "Moorish Cavalry" and not "Roman Cavalry" should clue you into the fact that the Moors and Trajan were not of the same stock.
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
Dunce
You fake a low attention span. But I will bury you with facts till you heal your wicked heart...
Read below carefully...
Later we get an influx of barbarians nomads, who were assimilated and romanized.
Then slaves from the Slavic and Germanic tribes were captured from Northern Europe and used on Roman plantations in Central Europe....
Not so for today's so-called white people who were actually called barbarians and hated by the Roman state and Empire. They were the threats of the day, the potential carries of contagions mental and spiritual, eroders of morality. Besides the oracles of Delphi had forcasted that barbarians whites would eventually overun the emipre.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by IronLion:
Dunce
You fake a low attention span. But I will bury you with facts till you heal your wicked heart...
Read below carefully...
Later we get an influx of barbarians nomads, who were assimilated and romanized.
Then slaves from the Slavic and Germanic tribes were captured from Northern Europe and used on Roman plantations in Central Europe....
Not so for today's so-called white people who were actually called barbarians and hated by the Roman state and Empire. They were the threats of the day, the potential carries of contagions mental and spiritual, eroders of morality. Besides the oracles of Delphi had forcasted that barbarians whites would eventually overun the emipre.
(make up your mind, they were assimilated but hated at the same time??-lioness)
Those Barbarians are the direct ancestors of todays so-called Italians, French, Germans, English, Beligia, Holland, Sweden, Russia, and the whole of the so-called white races of todays Europa.
Which is why they have invested so much energy in re-writing and retelling the story of the Roman Empire and its fall, at the hands of the barbarians so-called whites.
Re-read the above thread opener...
Re-read the Italicized portion...
Any more questions??
yes I re-read your opener. None of it applies to the person on the left at the top of this post that was originally posted by you, an Etruscan painting which shows a blond haired white person, for the millionth time, and there are many such pictures, prior to the the Slavic and Germanic tribes you mention. Stop being thick as a brick
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
Dunce
You fake a low attention span. But I will bury you with facts till you heal your wicked heart...
Read below carefully...
Later we get an influx of barbarians nomads, who were assimilated and romanized.
Then slaves from the Slavic and Germanic tribes were captured from Northern Europe and used on Roman plantations in Central Europe....
Not so for today's so-called white people who were actually called barbarians and hated by the Roman state and Empire. They were the threats of the day, the potential carries of contagions mental and spiritual, eroders of morality. Besides the oracles of Delphi had forcasted that barbarians whites would eventually overun the emipre.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by IronLion:
Dunce
You fake a low attention span. But I will bury you with facts till you heal your wicked heart...
Read below carefully...
Later we get an influx of barbarians nomads, who were assimilated and romanized.
Then slaves from the Slavic and Germanic tribes were captured from Northern Europe and used on Roman plantations in Central Europe....
Not so for today's so-called white people who were actually called barbarians and hated by the Roman state and Empire. They were the threats of the day, the potential carries of contagions mental and spiritual, eroders of morality. Besides the oracles of Delphi had forcasted that barbarians whites would eventually overun the emipre.
(make up your mind, they were assimilated but hated at the same time??-lioness)
Those Barbarians are the direct ancestors of todays so-called Italians, French, Germans, English, Beligia, Holland, Sweden, Russia, and the whole of the so-called white races of todays Europa.
Which is why they have invested so much energy in re-writing and retelling the story of the Roman Empire and its fall, at the hands of the barbarians so-called whites.
Re-read the above thread opener...
Re-read the Italicized portion...
Any more questions??
yes I re-read your opener. None of it applies to the person on the left at the top of this post that was originally posted by you, an Etruscan painting which shows a blond haired white person, for the millionth time, and there are many such pictures, prior to the the Slavic and Germanic tribes you mention. Stop being thick as a brick
You are sily like a child how many people are in the painting?
Describe them both to me, and to yourself.
Then post those "many blond hair" Estruscans so all see them...
My thesis was Etruscans, Phoenicians, Cartheginians, Nigri-Latins, were all Muurs from Africa, and they were the orginal owners and colonizers and builders of Rome. Your types came much later...
What is your thesis??? Do you have any?
And you still have not answered my question, do you bleach your pink butts??? Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness:
The fact that the title of this "Moorish Cavalry" and not "Roman Cavalry" should clue you into the fact that the Moors and Trajan were not of the same stock.
You are stupid beyond description...
Who wrote up that title "Moorish Cavalry"?
Trajan?
Look at the picture and title again... Gosh!
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: Royalty of Ancient Rome
Craftman of Ancient Rome
Lyingass
Put up or shut up!!!!
Show us that African Muurswere not the founders of Rome, and that to claim so is a mark of inferiority complex...
Who is the liar now???? Who has been shown to be an ignoramus pretender?
Was Roman Empire White??? Do you bleach your pink ass???
What made you stop spam more pictures of some so-called white Roman Emperors?
Did you see the Muurs of Etrusca, and Carthage? The Muurs of Ireland and the Muurs of Wales? The Muurs of Anatolia, the Muurs of Greece? The Muurs of Africa the originalland of the Muurs
Are you gonna call me Uncle? I am waiting...
Are you gonna say "Uncle IronLion!?"
Are you gonna call me the Dean of Roman studies?
I am waiting Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: Royalty of Ancient Rome
Craftman of Ancient Rome
Lyingass
Put up or shut up!!!!
Show us that African Muurswere not the founders of Rome, and that to claim so is a mark of inferiority complex...
Who is the liar now???? Who has been shown to be an ignoramus pretender?
Was Roman Empire White??? Do you bleach your pink ass???
What made you stop spam more pictures of some so-called white Roman Emperors?
Did you see the Muurs of Etrusca, and Carthage? The Muurs of Ireland and the Muurs of Wales? The Muurs of Anatolia, the Muurs of Greece? The Muurs of Africa the originalland of the Muurs
Are you gonna call me Uncle? I am waiting...
Are you gonna say "Uncle IronLion!?"
Are you gonna call me the Dean of Roman studies?
I am waiting
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THE ETRUSCAN DECIPHERMENT
By GJK Campbell-Dunn M.A. (NZ), M.A. (Camb.) Ph.D.
Recent genetic research at Universidad Complutense, Madrid shows an African–Egyptian presence in prehistoric Italy. We identify Etruscan as Niger-Congo.
Etruscan has now been deciphered as Niger-Congo. Our work is based mainly on that of M. Pallottino (1975), L. Bonfante (2002) for Etruscan and D. Westermann (1927), H. Mukarovsky (1977) for Niger-Congo. Evidence from comparative morphology and sound correspondences follows. PWS Proto-Western Sudanic “Sudan” (Westermann) PWN Proto-Western Nigritic (Mukarovsky).
ETRUSCAN MORPHOLOGY COMPARED WITH NIGER-CONGO
Etruscan is agglutinative, not an inflected language like Latin. Its morphology is made by the free addition of affixes, ie. by lateral extension, not by vertical paradigms: zal, e-sal; u-nu ; uni, uni-al, uni-al-ti ; aule, aule-s, aule-s-la etc. The last ex has the Niger-Congo postposed article -la. Niger-Congo is likewise agglutinative in structure, with prefixes before the root, suffixes after it.
This is slightly off topic, but what about CAMPBELL-DUNN's works being mostly bogus linguistics?
The aim of the author (Campbell-Dunn) is to demonstrate a genetic linguistic relationship between Niger-Congo Languages (Bantu, Wolof, Fulani, Mande, Yoruba, Akan, etc.) and Etruscan, the language of the mysterious culture of a great part of modern Italy (ca 1200 BC-550) prior to the rise of the Romans and their language, Latin. The Etruscan language is considered as an isolate by mainstream scholarship (BONFANTE 2002). However, just like for other linguistic or phenotypic "isolates" such as Basque language in Europe or Fulani people in West Africa, egregiously fanciful theories have been asserted by irresponsible scholars regarding their origins. For Etruscan, one could for example cite GUIGNARD (1964), Comment j'ai déchiffré la langue étrusque, « Wie habe ich die etruskische Sprache entziffert. How I deciphered the Etruscan language ». Grammaire comparée des langues basque, étrusque et islandaise, self-edited (sic), et GUIGNARD (1992), Les clefs de décodage de la langue étrusque : les condensateurs électriques étrusques...; la colonisation étrusque du Japon (=the keys of decoding of the Etruscan language : Etruscan electrical capacitors (sic), the Etruscan colonization of Japan).
Needless to say that to challenge the mainstream opinion that Etruscan is an isolate, CAMPBELL-DUNN will have to provide substantial evidence similar to that that can be found between languages considered by mainstream scholarship as related, e.g. Afro-Asiatic (Ancient Egyptian, Berber, Semitic, Cushitic, Chadic, Omotic) or Indo-European (Romance, Germanic, Indo-Iranian, Slavic, Celtic, etc) languages. In our opinion, CAMPBELL-DUNN fails to do so. To his credit though, unlike some pseudo-comparative linguists, CAMPBELL-DUNN has the advantage of using reconstructed forms, namely that of WESTERMANN (1927) and not randomly found Niger-Congo linguistic elements to compare them with Etruscan.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness: [QUOTE]The aim of the author (Campbell-Dunn) is to demonstrate a genetic linguistic relationship between Niger-Congo Languages (Bantu, Wolof, Fulani, Mande, Yoruba, Akan, etc.) and Etruscan, the language of the mysterious culture of a great part of modern Italy (ca 1200 BC-550) prior to the rise of the Romans and their language, Latin. The Etruscan language is considered as an isolate by mainstream scholarship (BONFANTE 2002). However, just like for other linguistic or phenotypic "isolates" such as Basque language in Europe or Fulani people in West Africa, egregiously fanciful theories have been asserted by irresponsible scholars regarding their origins. For Etruscan, one could for example cite GUIGNARD (1964), Comment j'ai déchiffré la langue étrusque, « Wie habe ich die etruskische Sprache entziffert. How I deciphered the Etruscan language ». Grammaire comparée des langues basque, étrusque et islandaise, self-edited (sic), et GUIGNARD (1992), Les clefs de décodage de la langue étrusque : les condensateurs électriques étrusques...; la colonisation étrusque du Japon (=the keys of decoding of the Etruscan language : Etruscan electrical capacitors (sic), the Etruscan colonization of Japan).
Needless to say that to challenge the mainstream opinion that Etruscan is an isolate, CAMPBELL-DUNN will have to provide substantial evidence similar to that that can be found between languages considered by mainstream scholarship as related, e.g. Afro-Asiatic (Ancient Egyptian, Berber, Semitic, Cushitic, Chadic, Omotic) or Indo-European (Romance, Germanic, Indo-Iranian, Slavic, Celtic, etc) languages. In our opinion, CAMPBELL-DUNN fails to do so. To his credit though, unlike some pseudo-comparative linguists, CAMPBELL-DUNN has the advantage of using reconstructed forms, namely that of WESTERMANN (1927) and not randomly found Niger-Congo linguistic elements to compare them with Etruscan.
Is the above your own comment, or is it plagiarized?
If it is your comment confirm, if not fess up!
Awaiting response.. Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness: [QUOTE]The aim of the author (Campbell-Dunn) is to demonstrate a genetic linguistic relationship between Niger-Congo Languages (Bantu, Wolof, Fulani, Mande, Yoruba, Akan, etc.) and Etruscan, the language of the mysterious culture of a great part of modern Italy (ca 1200 BC-550) prior to the rise of the Romans and their language, Latin. The Etruscan language is considered as an isolate by mainstream scholarship (BONFANTE 2002). However, just like for other linguistic or phenotypic "isolates" such as Basque language in Europe or Fulani people in West Africa, egregiously fanciful theories have been asserted by irresponsible scholars regarding their origins. For Etruscan, one could for example cite GUIGNARD (1964), Comment j'ai déchiffré la langue étrusque, « Wie habe ich die etruskische Sprache entziffert. How I deciphered the Etruscan language ». Grammaire comparée des langues basque, étrusque et islandaise, self-edited (sic), et GUIGNARD (1992), Les clefs de décodage de la langue étrusque : les condensateurs électriques étrusques...; la colonisation étrusque du Japon (=the keys of decoding of the Etruscan language : Etruscan electrical capacitors (sic), the Etruscan colonization of Japan).
Needless to say that to challenge the mainstream opinion that Etruscan is an isolate, CAMPBELL-DUNN will have to provide substantial evidence similar to that that can be found between languages considered by mainstream scholarship as related, e.g. Afro-Asiatic (Ancient Egyptian, Berber, Semitic, Cushitic, Chadic, Omotic) or Indo-European (Romance, Germanic, Indo-Iranian, Slavic, Celtic, etc) languages. In our opinion, CAMPBELL-DUNN fails to do so. To his credit though, unlike some pseudo-comparative linguists, CAMPBELL-DUNN has the advantage of using reconstructed forms, namely that of WESTERMANN (1927) and not randomly found Niger-Congo linguistic elements to compare them with Etruscan.
Is the above your own comment, or is it plagiarized?
If it is your comment confirm, if not fess up!
Awaiting response..
Fess up Lyingass, fess up.. I caught you pants down plagiarizing comments cutting and pasting from others comments then presenting them as your own comments:
quote:Originally posted by Arara Sabalu on Reloaded: This paper is a review of G.J.K. CAMPBELL-DUNN, The Etruscan decipherment, <online>, http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/gc_dunn/Etruscans.html, page retrieved on Wednesday September the 1st 2010. The aim of the author is to demonstrate a genetic linguistic relationship between Niger-Congo Languages (Bantu, Wolof, Fulani, Mande, Yoruba, Akan, etc.) and Etruscan, the language of the mysterious culture of a great part of modern Italy (ca 1200 BC-550) prior to the rise of the Romans and their language, Latin. The Etruscan language is considered as an isolate by mainstream scholarship (BONFANTE 2002). ....
Your source says 15% Albinos a tiny minority of Albinos inherited curly hair probably from their Muurish ancestors. You are a mulatoo nationalist, so you know what I mean.
But the scary part is the other part of you, the 85% who do not have this gene...
The rest 85% well, who are those?
Julius Caesar
Augustus
Claudius
vespasian
Tiberius
Caligula
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
Now, point out the gene responsible for the "brown" skin of the Europeans as the Romans have been shown to be brown and black skinned like olives?
p53 gene
Lyingass
Jari your Dawg does not realize you came up with the p53 gene theory...
You wanna explain this to him?
Lion!
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: __________________________________________
_______________________________________________________ Roman Emperor Valenti III
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President Obama of Modern Rome Posted by Just call me Jari (Member # 14451) on :
ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAARRRR!!!!!!
ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRR!!!!!!
No More Running!!!
No More Scurrying!!!
Cagot!!
I want my 1st hand source!!!
ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAARRR!!!
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Gerri pink cagot dog
You are a vandal like your ancestors, and a thief otherwise you would not delibrately spam a thread from which you ran away as a result of rank ignorance.
Now like a cowardly dog, you are trying to clog the thread by spamming it with pictures that are too large to unload properly.
This makes u an infernal animal, that cannot fight on fact, relying instead on dirty plots to censor the truth.
Moderator take note.
Lion!
Posted by Anonymous68 (Member # 18540) on :
So this is the meaning of the qoute, "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned".
But PMS is treatable though.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
^LOL!
Posted by Vilewoman (Member # 18563) on :
Seriously?
Wow at this thread, simply wow. You people do understand skin color is due to sun exposure right? I am "Native American" and look very white, because my ancestors lived in North American and due to little sun exposure my skin is now light.
You can toss pictures and "facts" all day long but fact of the matter is, early humans were all DARK skinned. Honestly, who cares if Romans were black. I don't care what race you are, why would want to claim such barbaric, murderous thieves such as the Romans. I recently say someone say Henry the 8th was black, I think the entire human race doesn't want to claim him. I would rather think of him as an alien than a member of the human race. Good grief.
Skin color doesn't determine intelligence or capabilities. And history is written by the victors.
Case in point Einstein was white So is Paris Hilton (need I say more?)
quote:Originally posted by Vilewoman: [QB] Wow at this thread, simply wow. You people do understand skin color is due to sun exposure right? I am "Native American" and look very white, because my ancestors lived in North American and due to little sun exposure my skin is now light.
To which Native American ethnic group(s) do you belong? I presume it's one of the more northerly ones if you're really pale.
Posted by Djehuti (Member # 6698) on :
^ Perhaps a better question is why is this dumb thread getting so much attention in the first place?? Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
^Perhaps the question to ask is, how come a pretend indochinese pink arse tranny,aka Jehuti play an authority in black muurish history?
Why is the indochinese pink arse afraid of Muurish history?
Why does this indochineses claim that there are no Muurish people in Asia, Americas and Europe when the evidence demonstrate that they were there and they were very important too?
Why has this indochinese tranny been lurking around African history and culture of which he knows so little for more than five years?
Why not tell us about your indochinese roots and history? And your trans-sexual preferences? We are waiting...
Lion!
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by Vilewoman: Seriously?
Wow at this thread, simply wow. You people do understand skin color is due to sun exposure right? I am "Native American" and look very white, because my ancestors lived in North American and due to little sun exposure my skin is now light.
You can toss pictures and "facts" all day long but fact of the matter is, early humans were all DARK skinned. Honestly, who cares if Romans were black. I don't care what race you are, why would want to claim such barbaric, murderous thieves such as the Romans. I recently say someone say Henry the 8th was black, I think the entire human race doesn't want to claim him. I would rather think of him as an alien than a member of the human race. Good grief.
Skin color doesn't determine intelligence or capabilities. And history is written by the victors.
Case in point Einstein was white So is Paris Hilton (need I say more?)
Another miseducated pink one (so-called white) lamenting the destruction of her "white" supremacist fancies...
You offer us bribes and inducement not to tell the truth, but we will.
Even if the Muurish Romans were sinners and killers, the fact remains that they are still Muurish.
They are a part of Muurish history that we must learn in order to have the full pictue of our roots and our destination...
Do you now understand, pink girl?
This is Muurish History 101 classes Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by Vilewoman: Seriously?
Wow at this thread, simply wow. You people do understand skin color is due to sun exposure right? I am "Native American" and look very white, because my ancestors lived in North American and due to little sun exposure my skin is now light.
You can toss pictures and "facts" all day long but fact of the matter is, early humans were all DARK skinned.
Honestly, who cares if Romans were black. I don't care what race you are, why would want to claim such barbaric, murderous thieves such as the Romans. I recently say someone say Henry the 8th was black, I think the entire human race doesn't want to claim him. I would rather think of him as an alien than a member of the human race. Good grief.
Skin color doesn't determine intelligence or capabilities. And history is written by the victors.
A very intelligent post Vilewoman, but perhaps not quite accurate. Today, many people who call themselves native Americans, are in fact European. That because the dilution of native blood necessitates those with as little as 1/8 native blood being accepted as native Americans.
This is of course, simply an economic and political maneuver: In the real world, 7/8 White European trumps 1/8 native American every time.
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SOME OF THE DISCUSSIONS!
Researchers have discovered only a handful of Paleoindian skeletons older than 8000 years. Now that University of California (UC) officials have recently urged federal officials to give two of the oldest known skeletons in America to the Kumeyaay nation for reburial, anthropologists at several UC campuses are protesting vehemently, calling the action "scandalous" in blogs and interviews.
At almost 10,000 years old, the skeletons—excavated in 1976 from the property of the former chancellor’s house at UCSD—are too old to have any cultural or biological affinity with the Kumeyaay or any living Native Americans, says Schoeninger, who is co-director of a UCSD working group that advised the university to keep the skeletons.
“Unlike most skeletons of such antiquity, these are remarkably well-preserved.” They are both better preserved and older than the well-known skeleton of Kennewick Man (who was Polynesian), which was the subject of several lawsuits after Native Americans claimed the skeleton when it washed ashore on the bank of the Columbia River in Oregon.
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NATIVE AMERICANS
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Mazigh - That's why these people are NOT Egyptians.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
^But these ARE Egyptians.
Posted by the lioness (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Mazigh - That's why these people are NOT Egyptians.
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: Romano Moorish Emperor Valentin III
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Posted by mena7 (Member # 20555) on :
IronLion Was The Roman Empire White ? is a great thread. you prove that the Roman and Greek were not white because they were using skin bleaching cream and they were wearing white people wig. You also showed Campbell Dunn work that revealed Etruscan was a Niger Congo language.
In 2012 I read an Africamaat article about skin bleaching that states the European Monarchs and nobilities of the Renaissance and colonial era were using skin bleaching cream. Skin bleaching cream was a popular product sold in all European market in the renaissance and colonial era. The article also state the ancient Greek used skin bleaching cream. The use of skin bleaching cream by the European elites and some of the European masses is the proof that the classical era European were black and brown. After the white Central Asian Goth and Slav massive invasion and migration to Europe in the 6 cent CE the European elites and part of the Euro masses remained brown and black until the late colonial era when they bleach out.
In 2013 I read Campbell Dunn book the African Origin of Classical civilization were he revealed the Ancient Minoan, Etruscan and Roman cultures, religions, languages and name of places were African. The Yoruba and Mande were the Minoan and The Mande, Yoruba and Akan were the first Roman.
I read also the Congolese scholar and pastor Jose Nzeyitu Josias book Les Racines Bantoues Du Latin were he prove the Congolese and Linguala languages are the mother of Latin. The original Roman people most have been black people.
Most of the Roman artifacts in Western museums are Renaissance era fake that's why they look like white people. By contrast Roman and Greek artifacts in Egyptian museum look like mulato people. The black Roman artifacts are in low number, they are either hidden our have been destroyed. Graeco Roman civilization was created by black then became brown, black and white. Racism didn't exist in that era what matter was tribalism, ethnicism, citizenship and nationality.
Black and Brown Roman Fayum Portraits.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Mena7
Thanks for your input. The last two pictures are new to me. I will note them and save them for future studies and references.
Posted by Troll Patrol aka Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: __________________________________________
_______________________________________________________ Roman Emperor Valenti III
President Obama of Modern Rome [/QB][/QUOTE]
As if resurrected?
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Troll Patrol
Great observation. I am actually struck by the resemblance. Obama appears to be a man of destiny from the past, as we have found his face also amongst the Kings of Egypt.
Posted by Troll Patrol aka Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: Troll Patrol
Great observation. I am actually struck by the resemblance. Obama appears to be a man of destiny from the past, as we have found his face also amongst the Kings of Egypt.
I agree, are you able and or capable to make photo collage of comparative images?
That would be awesome.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
No, I cannot do that. I gather you have advanced Techie skills. Can you make such a collage?
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Dr Hella Eckardt, senior lecturer in Roman Archaeology at the University of Reading, said: “Our analysis of excavated skeletal remains of people living in Roman Britain such as the ‘Ivory Bangle Lady’ and others like her show that multicultural Britain is not just a phenomenon of more modern times.”
By analysing skeletons facial features, skull measurements, the chemical signature of food and drink and burial goods, archaeologists were able to learn more about Roman times and migrants of African descent who came to Britain.
The ‘Ivory Bangle Lady’ was a high status young woman of North African descent who remains were buried in Roman York (Sycamore Terrace).
Dated to the second half of the 4th Century, her grave contained jet and elephant ivory bracelets, earrings, pendants, beads, a blue glass jug and a glass mirror.
Dr Debbie Weekes-Bernard, who is leading the Romans Revealed outreach project, said: “The University of Reading research results showed that people came to Britain from many different parts of the Roman Empire, including North Africa. In some of the larger towns like York and Winchester, up to 20 per cent of the Roman Britain population may be classed as ‘non-local’ or ‘incomers’.
“This research is really important, providing evidence to challenge the current curriculum as taught in schools and highlighting the diversity of Roman Britain.”
According to the National Archives, the official archive for the UK Government, people of African descent have had a presence in Britain for the past 2,000 years.
In Roman times, black troops were sent to the ‘remote and barbaric’ province of Britannia – the ancient term for Great Britain – with many settling permanently even after the Roman legions left.
1,800-year-old stone head of an eminent African-Featured Romano-British found in Binchester, Durham England by Oguejiofo Annu
Afro British Binchester-sandstone-head-200x255
Afro British Moor
Archaeologists from Durham University England, who were excavating an ancient site of a Roman bathhouse outside Binchester Roman Fort near the town of Bishop Auckland, County Durham, northeast England, found a carved stone head of a black man dating to the 2nd or 3rd century A.D.
The small sandstone sculpture is about eight inches high and four inches wide — in a layer of stone rubble. Two years ago a small Roman altar was found nearby.
Archaeologists believe the head period the Romans ruled England. Binchester was a fort on the northern frontier.
The Binchester head also has facial features — mainly the modeling of the nose and lips — that may suggest an African influence.
I would emphatically call him a Moor because in the time of the Romans, so-called black people of today were called Moors and Melaneos. Those Moors were native to Britain, they were the first British, before the invasion of the Island by the Albions, and the Goths, the Vinlanders etc.
The Binchester head is African in appearance, and the experts cannot deny their own eyes no matter how hard they try. But Dr Petts, who is also Associate Director of Durham University’s Institute of Medieval and Early Modern Studies, said experts were unsure whether these features were “deliberate or coincidental”.
He explained: “This is something we need to consider deeply. If it is an image of an African, it could be extremely important, although this identification is not certain.”
The most interesting aspect is this so-called African features were carved into all images and statues found in England dating from that same period. Due to to its pervasity in the art of that period, the scholars have attempted to rebrand its identity and localise it.
According to Dr Mason one of the scholars involved in the study: “The African style comparison may be misleading as the form is typical of that produced by local craftsmen in the frontier region.”
Afro Moors English Binchester-head-angles-106x150
Binchester Roman Fort, called Vinovia by the Romans, was the largest fort in the county, housing a garrison of one thousand men, most if not all of them cavalry. It guarded the crossing point of the River Wear, a strategically important location about 60 miles north of the legion’s headquarters at York and about 30 miles south of Hadrian’s Wall.
Binchester Fort is in the centre of today’s County Durham, approximately one and a half miles north of Bishop Auckland in England.
Despite the half truths, one can begin to easily see the gigantic foot steps of the ancient Muurish Romans in England, Scotland and Wales....
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: Dr Hella Eckardt, senior lecturer in Roman Archaeology at the University of Reading, said: “Our analysis of excavated skeletal remains of people living in Roman Britain such as the ‘Ivory Bangle Lady’ and others like her show that multicultural Britain is not just a phenomenon of more modern times.”
By analysing skeletons facial features, skull measurements, the chemical signature of food and drink and burial goods, archaeologists were able to learn more about Roman times and migrants of African descent who came to Britain.
The ‘Ivory Bangle Lady’ was a high status young woman of North African descent who remains were buried in Roman York (Sycamore Terrace).
Dated to the second half of the 4th Century, her grave contained jet and elephant ivory bracelets, earrings, pendants, beads, a blue glass jug and a glass mirror.
Dr Debbie Weekes-Bernard, who is leading the Romans Revealed outreach project, said: “The University of Reading research results showed that people came to Britain from many different parts of the Roman Empire, including North Africa. In some of the larger towns like York and Winchester, up to 20 per cent of the Roman Britain population may be classed as ‘non-local’ or ‘incomers’.
“This research is really important, providing evidence to challenge the current curriculum as taught in schools and highlighting the diversity of Roman Britain.”
According to the National Archives, the official archive for the UK Government, people of African descent have had a presence in Britain for the past 2,000 years.
In Roman times, black troops were sent to the ‘remote and barbaric’ province of Britannia – the ancient term for Great Britain – with many settling permanently even after the Roman legions left.
(a) Geographical map showing the main colonies by Greeks (triangles) and Phoenicians (circles) in the Mediterranean (seventh to sixth centuries bc). (b) Frequency distribution of the most representative haplotype 13-13-30-24-10-11-13 associated to the E3b1a2-V13 chromosomes in Sicily, in other populations taken from literature15, 23, 29, 30 and in samples from YHRD. The allelic combinations refer to the following order of loci: DYS19-DYS389I-DYS389II-DYS390-DYS391-DYS392-DYS393. (c) Frequency distribution of the haplotype 13-14-30-24-9-11-13 associated to the E3b1b-M81 chromosomes in Sicily (data from this study), in other populations taken from literature29 and in samples from YHRD.
Network of haplogroup E. The microsatellites DYS19, DYS389I, DYS390, DYS391 and DYS392 were used. Areas of circles are proportional to the number of chromosomes (the smallest circle corresponds to two chromosomes). Areas of sectors are proportional to haplotype frequencies. Sources: Greece and Albania (AP unpublished data); North Africa;7, 23 southern Italy;7 Middle East.7, 15
Uniparental Markers of Contemporary Italian Population Reveals Details on Its Pre-Roman Heritage (2012)
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: The original Romano-Muurish Britons.
"2000 years of history could not be wiped away so easily" - Bob Marley
Constantine the Ninth and the Last Emperor of Rome: The Immortal Muur – By Oguejiofo Annu
The last Emperor of the Roman Empire in the East also known as the Byzantine Empire.
The Turks murdered him.
He was martyred by the forces of Sultan Mehmet during the assault on The City on May 29, 1453. His feast is celebrated on May 29 (e.g., St. Herman Calendar 2000, p.38).
He is venerated among Orthodox and Byzantine Catholics alike, for his deep faith, his steadfastness to his people and to his duties as Emperor in the face of certain death at the hands of the Sultan’s forces.
A lesser Christian and man not only could have, but would have escaped, abandoning the people to their own fate. However Emperor Constantine remained steafast, stood with the body-polity and died willingly for his faith and imperial legacy.
Emperor Constantine’s heroic death and the shock of the fall of The City, the capital of Rome in the East Constantinople, combined with the fact that his place of burial remains a mystery to this day, led to several pious legends about the Emperor.
Many claimed that he never died, but was hidden by God. Some others renamed him the sleeping Emperor, secluded by God.
It was generally believed by many that he would one day return to drive out the invaders and restore the Faith and the Empire.
Nichols, Donald, The Immortal Emperor, Cambridge University Press, 1992, pp. 66-69.
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peep the hair on this shyt
Posted by Troll Patrol aka Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: The original Romano-Muurish Britons.
"2000 years of history could not be wiped away so easily" - Bob Marley
Interesting story.
quote: Archaeologists find carved head of ‘Geordie Roman god’
Finding made weeks before Binchester Roman Festival
The stone carved head of a ‘Geordie Roman god’ has been found at Binchester Roman Fort, near Bishop Auckland.
Carved head found at Binchester The 1,800-year-old item was found by archaeologists in an ancient rubbish dump. First year Durham University archaeology student Alex Kirton found the artefact, which measures about 20cm by 10cm, in buried late Roman rubbish within what was probably a bath house.
“We found the Binchester head close to where a small Roman altar was found two years ago. We think it may have been associated with a small shrine in the bath house and dumped after the building fell out of use, probably in the 4th century AD,” explained Dr David Petts, Lecturer in Archaeology at Durham University.
“It is probably the head of a Roman god – we can’t be sure of his name, but it does have similarities to the head of Antenociticus found at Benwell in the 19th century.”
The find comes during a five year project at the fort which is looking at the twilight years of the Roman Empire.
Every summer students from Durham and the United States are joined by volunteer members of the public at the site.
The current Binchester dig is a project between Durham University’s Department of Archaeology, site owner Durham County Council, Stanford University’s Archaeology Centre and the Architectural and Archaeological Society of Durham and Northumberland.
See more photos in our Binchester Roman Fort photo set on Flickr.
Visitors attending the Binchester Roman Festival on Saturday, 13th July and Sunday, 14th July will be able to see the head for themselves, along with other objects found during the current excavations. The Festival features guided tours of the excavations by Dr Mason as well as a programme of re-enactment events including firing of a full-size model of a ballista, a Roman artillery catapult, and demonstrations of ancient riding and fighting skills.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
peep the hair on this shyt
LMBAO!
Dunce learn to use your head...
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
The Council of Nicea in pictures Emperor Constantine, Black Roman Emperor sitting on his throne with his Bishops.
Take a look at the picture of Emperor Haile Selassie I in Rasta Livewire page and take a look at Emperor Constantine... Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: Bronze balsamarium, representing a Thracian boy, 2nd Century, Plovdiv Archaeological museum
Skunt
Why did you supress this one:
Bulgaria's greatest historical assets
From Roman times, introducing the Thracians of Bulgaria:
Sofia, Plovdiv and the town of Panagyurishte have been locked in a fierce dispute about the country's most prominent golden treasure for years.
The spoils are among the most prominent golden Thracian treasures in Bulgaria.
Take a look at the picture of Emperor Haile Selassie I in Rasta Livewire page and take a look at Emperor Constantine...
you're stupid
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
^^ Ok Duncey, whatever...
Below is Anastazia the blood sister of Emperor Constantine the great.
Any MUUR questions...
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
yeah right
Emmm, ok....
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
jackass, this is not an African
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: ^^ Ok Duncey, whatever...
Below is Anastazia the blood sister of Emperor Constantine the great.
Any MUUR questions...
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
yeah right
Emmm, ok....
^^^^^ no resemblance here stupid
does she have a thin boney nose like in the painting? No does the painting have prominant cheek bones like the woman in the photo? No Does the woman in the photo have a small mouth like in the painiting? No You are full of crap and unqualified. Leave it to the professionals fool
yeah this guy is a dead ringer for Haile Selassie, you are so very retarded
I know, I know, put on some brown paint and he instantly turns into an Ethiopian Muur, fvcking tinkerbell fantasy land. You are a mentally bent cult member that cant see straight
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Ok, I will recap because your sight, your hearing and your reading attention are as fickle as your intelligence.
Here we go again, Muurs and albinos...
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: blaaah...blaaah..blaaaah...
Do you need a definition of Muurs and albinos?
OK
This is the Gotha Botha the albino wildman...
This is the original Muur, the first latins
This is IronLion, the Muur who busted your tingy tingy...
Any MUUR questions?
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by mena7: Balsamarium of black Roman
^ I grew up with cousins that looked exactly like that boy in the heart of tropical Nigeria.
Their mothers were white but their fathers were black. I now that tribe so well know that you cannot pass one of them off to me as a "white" boy.
No way. He is black to me. I say he probably got black genes, because I have blood cousins like that, who have more Nigerian culture than I do
this is a white boy you weed burnt dufus
Posted by Troll Patrol aka Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
^ @ the euronut defense.
Volume: 84 Number: 323 Page: 131–145
A Lady of York: migration, ethnicity and identity in Roman Britain
S. Leach1, H. Eckardt1, C. Chenery1, G. Müldner1 and M. Lewis1
1Department of Archaeology, School of Human and Environmental Sciences, University of Reading, Reading RG6 6AB, UK 2NERC Isotope Geoscience Laboratory, British Geological Survey, Kingsley Dunham Centre, Keyworth, Nottingham NG12 5GG, UK
Modern methods of analysis applied to cemeteries have often been used in our pages to suggest generalities about mobility and diet. But these same techniques applied to a single individual, together with the grave goods and burial rite, can open a special kind of personal window on the past. Here, the authors of a multidisciplinary project use a combination of scientific techniques to illuminate Roman York, and later Roman history in general, with their image of a glamorous mixed-race woman, in touch with Africa, Christianity, Rome and Yorkshire.
Keywords: York, Roman, burial, isotope analysis, ancestry, rank, ivory, mortuary theory
The Roman Empire was primarily comprised of Moors, only the women were white. Yep, that's what Ironedlion and Troll believe
carry on the endless parade of pictures.....
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
^ I grew up with cousins that looked exactly like that boy in the heart of tropical Nigeria.
Their mothers were white but their fathers were black. I now that tribe so well know that you cannot pass one of them off to me as a "white" boy.
No way. He is black to me. I say he probably got black genes, because I have blood cousins like that, who have more Nigerian culture than I do
this is a white boy you weed burnt dufus
Skunt
As MUURS we come all types. But the dark skin and curly hair (the wool on the lamb) are our marker, just like pink asses and hairy backs mark out your pale tribe.
quote:AFRICAN GENETIC DIVERSITY: Implications for Human Demographic History, Modern Human Origins, and Complex Disease Mapping -- See Annu Rev Genomics Hum Genet. Published in final edited form as:
Any MUUR questions?? Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: The Roman Empire was primarily comprised of Moors, only the women were white. Yep, that's what Ironedlion and Troll believe
carry on the endless parade of pictures.....
You cannot fight reality, nor the historical artefacts!
I used to own your bonga bonga before the world turned upside down...
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: blaaah...blaaah..blaaaah...
Do you need a definition of Muurs and albinos?
OK
This is the Gotha Botha the albino wildman...
This is the original Muur, the first latins
This is IronLion, the Muur who busted your tingy tingy...
Any MUUR questions?
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
Roman Military Moorish General:
Any MUUR questions??
And these are Belgians, yeah
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
They are the Roots!
quote: CHINA I. Shang, 1800 – 800 BC II. Shang, 1800 – 800 BC III. Zhou, 1000 – 200 BC
Comment: Before the Shang were the Xia (Hsai) also African.
EUROPE IV. Rome, 400 BC V. Rome, 100 BC VI. Naples, 200 AD
Comment: the African Etrurians were Romes first inhabitants since 5000 BC.
NORTH AMERICA VII. Olmec, 2000 – 600 BC VIII. Olmec, 2000 – 600 BC IX. Olmec, 2000 – 600 BC
Comment: The May 2004 issue of National Geographic calls the Olmec “the mother cul- ture of Meso-american civilization.” p. 71.
EGYPT X. Narmer, 1st, 3100 BC XI. Tiye, 1332 – 1323 BC XII. Taharka, 690 – 664 BC
Comment: Egypt’s African kings were great. Taharka pre- vented Sennecherib, Assyria from taking Jews as slaves.
^IronLion, doing more destruction to this euronut bigot.
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: The Roman Empire was primarily comprised of Moors, only the women were white. Yep, that's what Ironedlion and Troll believe
carry on the endless parade of pictures.....
The only endless troll here is you.
Again you've been beaten upside down with several disciplines.
All you have was pseudo ranting, with picture spam attempts, to so called refute African presence in Rome. And we all have witnessed how it didn't workout that well for you.
So much for your euronut attempts to lie.
Keep posting, keep exposing yourself, you dumb liar, impostor African American woman. With your deep hate for Africans.
Foreign Faces: Africans and Others in Ancient Roman Art
The History of Art and Architecture presents a lecture by Dr. Sinclair Bell, professor at Northern Illinois University.
How did ancient Romans understand other peoples, especially Africans? This talk surveys the evidence of Roman literature, inscriptions and especially works of art, including unpublished material from current excavations. Dr. Bell investigates the creative forms of artistic expression that Africans inspired across the empire, and suggests some possible motives for their creation.
IronLion, keep doing more destruction to this euronut bigot.
Posted by mena7 (Member # 20555) on :
The four black Roman Emperors and Caesars called the Tetrarchs. Emperor Diocletian, Maximian and Consuls Galerius and Constantius Chlorus . The statue is now in Venice but use to be in Constantinople.
The Tetrarchs statues of Diocletian.
The Tetrarchs
Tetarchs Eastern and Western Emperors Diocletian and Maximian
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
it's a great thing when those noses get broken off, it helps
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
Troll is the enabler. He throws in some actual blacks Then Iron and others come in and freestyles. It's a good scam you bruthas got going. Throw in a real one and sell eight fake ones
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
^^This one is for real...
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: blah..blah..blah...
Guess what, the Romans, emperors were about 99% white occupied Egypt and North Africa, yet you and Ironedlion want to kiss their "albino" feet like subjects
Lying ass Skunt
Who are these then?
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
Skunt
Zoom in here...zoom in with your fancy digital magnifier
MUURZ!!!
Roman oil lamp. Photographed in exibition "100.000 Jahre Sex" in "Haus der Natur" Salzburg.
quote: In the “Introduction” to the Priapeia, the translators point out that “The worship of Priapus amongst the Romans was derived from the Egyptians, who, under the form of Apis, the Sacred Bull, adored the generative Power of Nature,” adding that “the Phallus was the ancient emblem of creation, and representative of the gods Bacchus, Priapus, Hermaphroditus, Hercules, Shiva, Osiris, Baal and Asher, who were all Phallic deities.”
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
Who are these then?
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Guess what, these are not Africans.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
^^Recap!
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Do you need a definition of Muurs and albinos?
OK
This is the Gotha Botha the albino wildman...
....
This is IronLion, the Muur who busted your bonga bunga...
Any MUUR questions?
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Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
MUURZ!
Lionese on Muurs
quote:: [QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness,: [qb]
The animated image of Il Moro seen here is the inspired, unique projection of a simple heraldic device already in long use by elite families and civic authorities in medieval and Renaissance Europe.
Displayed on innumerable flags and coats of arms, this was the silhouetted head of a moor, understood to be a black man, wearing a white headband.
The rationale for its use varied from a pun on a family name (such as Morese equals moor) to an evocation of universal authority.
Here, this durable image has been given three-dimensional form, coming to life as the living embodiment of an actual head of state.
^^^^ Every time you post this it makes you look dumber and dumber. You think you're fooling anybody that Ludovico Sforza was African? pure infantile silliness
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
^^ Shut up and go grab your magnifier so you can see MUURZ at play
I am waiting Haney, I be up all night
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: Skunt
Zoom in here...zoom in with your fancy digital magnifier
MUURZ!!!
Roman oil lamp. Photographed in exibition "100.000 Jahre Sex" in "Haus der Natur" Salzburg.
quote: In the “Introduction” to the Priapeia, the translators point out that “The worship of Priapus amongst the Romans was derived from the Egyptians, who, under the form of Apis, the Sacred Bull, adored the generative Power of Nature,” adding that “the Phallus was the ancient emblem of creation, and representative of the gods Bacchus, Priapus, Hermaphroditus, Hercules, Shiva, Osiris, Baal and Asher, who were all Phallic deities.”
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: Bronze balsamarium, representing a Thracian boy, 2nd Century, Plovdiv Archaeological museum
Skunt
Why did you supress this one:
Bulgaria's greatest historical assets
From Roman times, introducing the Thracians of Bulgaria:
Sofia, Plovdiv and the town of Panagyurishte have been locked in a fierce dispute about the country's most prominent golden treasure for years.
The spoils are among the most prominent golden Thracian treasures in Bulgaria.
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: IronLion - I had to do some reading to see what you were talking about.
Romanians
The Romanians (dated: Rumanians or Roumanians; Romanian: români or -historically, but now a seldom-used regionalism- rumâni; dated exonym: Vlachs) are a nation and ethnic group native to Romania, who speak Romanian; they are the majority inhabitants of Romania.
Mike
I believe the present day Romanians are not the real Latinis.
The present day Romanians are immigrant conquerors.
They are a bunch of Cagotic Slavs, who entered into Europe and swamped the original black Roma citizens of Roman Dacia, Thrace, and Romany at the fall of the Roman Empire.
Having no other language except for a fews grunts and groans, they assimilated and were taught Romani language.
Today they parade themselves like Hammer and other identity challenged Pinkies as the true Romanis..."the great whytes"..LOL!
The Romanians in Romania are the descendants of the ancient Slavonic tribes, though they do not speak a Slavic language, but a Romance language, which can be traced back to the Roman colonization of Dacia. The basic vocabulary is in fact of Latin origin.....
Lion!
Posted by Troll Patrol aka Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: it's a great thing when those noses get broken off, it helps
It's funny how you keep invoking nonsense out of your ass, with elaborated picture spamming.
Black warrior and Roman soldier martyred for Christianity in the 3rd century, St. Maurice (coutesy: Image of the Black in Western Art Archive at Harvard University's W.E.B. Du Bois Institute for African and African American Research)
Posted by Son of Ra (Member # 20401) on :
Rome was not a African origin civilization. Can we let this retarded thread die now!!?? Why the F is it in the Ancient Egypt section???
Posted by Troll Patrol aka Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:
Who are these then?
Guess what, these are not Africans.
[/QB]
Guess again, delusional euronut bigot.
You are the prime example of a fool.
Foreign Faces: Africans and Others in Ancient Roman Art
The History of Art and Architecture presents a lecture by Dr. Sinclair Bell, professor at Northern Illinois University.
How did ancient Romans understand other peoples, especially Africans? This talk surveys the evidence of Roman literature, inscriptions and especially works of art, including unpublished material from current excavations. Dr. Bell investigates the creative forms of artistic expression that Africans inspired across the empire, and suggests some possible motives for their creation.
Posted by Troll Patrol aka Ish Gebor (Member # 18264) on :
quote:Originally posted by Son of Ra: Rome was not a African origin civilization. Can we let this retarded thread die now!!?? Why the F is it in the Ancient Egypt section???
There was African presence in Rome.
Greek and Rome have been influenced by Egypt and Garamantes.
Posted by Son of Ra (Member # 20401) on :
quote:Originally posted by Troll Patrol aka Ish Gebor:
quote:Originally posted by Son of Ra: Rome was not a African origin civilization. Can we let this retarded thread die now!!?? Why the F is it in the Ancient Egypt section???
There was African presence in Rome.
Greek and Rome have been influenced by Egypt and Garamantes.
Yes I know Greece was influenced by both Africans and Asians(definitely Asians).
And I know Rome was influenced by Africans, but they were mostly influenced by the Greeks who they copied almost everything from. But I am not denying that there were African influences like Carthage and Garamantes. Garamentes who influenced them in Calvary.
But still...Rome and Greece were still European origin civilizations founded by European people.
One can argue that the Romans saw people from African as superior people than own Northern European neighborhoods. But again...Rome was a European origin civilizations found by Europeans. The OP is trying to say the opposite. Anyone who argues against this needs get serious help.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
^^ The voice of reason What Troll Patrol does which is stupid he acts like I'm saying that there were no blacks in the Roman empire and this after I have have even posted some. But the most stupid thing he does is when Ironlion takes the fact that there was an African presence and then exaggerates extremely, puts numerous other pictures of swarthy Mediterranean European people, an example, the Emperor Constantine who he says was Ethiopian, others he says are Congolese, Troll Patrol won't say anything. He cant correct the child like brother because he's too worried about what I'm saying in the thread. He turns his back on a lot of faulty scholarship and bizarre theories on Egyptsearch so the quality goes down. Legitimate scholarship gets mixed with silliness and snow bunny fixation.
What if I were to ask "what Africans contributed to the civilization of ancient Rome?" others than some being there? Can Troll Patrol produce any names mentioned in Roman texts of African who contributed to Roman civilization? Severus (sons Caracalla) was half Phoenician and half Italian. His contribution was to invaded all over the place including taking over the capital of the Garments.
I already mentioned Tiro, an African writer, former slave.
Africans were subjects of Rome. Romans have thousands of text records and sometimes they mention Africans.
Troll Patrol can you gives us a re-cap, please give us a list of 5 names of Africans who made contributions to Roman civilization. Ironlion says having sex with white women is a contribution but I don't know if we can consider that culture.
Let's stop playing games with pictures with no names or biographies. Troll Patrol give us a list of 5 or ten indigenous Africans who made significant contributions to African civilization.
There was also Marcus Cornelius Fronto (c. 100–170), Roman grammarian, rhetorician and advocate, was born in the Berber city Cirta in Numidia. Fronto was born a Roman citizen c. 95 in the Numidian capital Cirta. He described himself as "a Libyan of the Libyan Nomades."Educated at Rome, he soon gained such renown as an advocate and orator as to be reckoned inferior only to Cicero. He amassed a large fortune, erected magnificent buildings and purchased the famous gardens of Maecenas. Antoninus Pius, hearing of his fame, appointed him tutor to his adopted sons Marcus Aurelius and Lucius Verus.
^^^ He said he was "a Libyan of the Libyan Nomades." Does this mean we should regard him as a black man? I don't know. It seems to me that if he was the Romans would have used some word like Aethiops or Niger. The Romans often, not always used the term Aethiop negatively. And the Romans were big slave masters (slavery is good if they don't discriminate racially-yeah right)
Lloyd Thompson, Department of Classics, University of Ibadan Ibadan, Nigeria.
The texts which reveal a distaste for the black phenotype in no way permit us to operate on the assumption that black-white social relations in the Roman world (or in any other predominantly 'white' social space) were (or are) necessarily governed by familiar Western ideological constraints, or that blacks in Roman society (who were evidently slaves for the most part (37) ) 'naturally' constituted a community. The notion of a 'black community' will easily intrude itself upon minds unreleased from the tyranny of modern Western preconceptions (especially when one has been socialized into seeing as 'natural' a partition of society into 'communities' of 'Blacks, Asians, Hispanics, and Whites of every kind'(38) ). The notion of a 'black community' in Roman social space is part and parcel of the same mind-set that prompts misguided questions about the group-status of the black 'race' in Roman society. It is otherwise quite impossible to envisage a small black population constituting a community in social conditions such as those of ancient Rome. In the first place, blacks in Roman society were at all times largely slave-immigrants or progeny of such immigrants; secondly, their numbers were always small; thirdly, black newcomers had a variety of cultural and ethnic backgrounds and (being largely slaves) were dispersed in widely separate localities; fourthly, every Roman slave had to live as part of a predominantly white familia of widely different individual national origins; finally, the descendants of blacks in the Roman world were much more often than not 'swarthy' or 'white' people in the Roman perceptual context.
Troll Patrol, give us a recap, it should be easy. I'm just asking for 5-10 names of Africans, not just people who were born in Africa but people who wee certain indigenous Africans who made major contributions to Roman civilization. With all the Roman text out there type should be able find some clear indigenous Africans being mentioned. And by contribution I mean not swarthy Southern Italians fuvking light skinned chicks in Pompeii whore houses. Something more intellectual.
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by Son of Ra:
quote:Originally posted by Troll Patrol aka Ish Gebor:
quote:Originally posted by Son of Ra: Rome was not a African origin civilization. Can we let this retarded thread die now!!?? Why the F is it in the Ancient Egypt section???
There was African presence in Rome.
Greek and Rome have been influenced by Egypt and Garamantes.
Yes I know Greece was influenced by both Africans and Asians(definitely Asians).
And I know Rome was influenced by Africans, but they were mostly influenced by the Greeks who they copied almost everything from. But I am not denying that there were African influences like Carthage and Garamantes. Garamentes who influenced them in Calvary.
But still...Rome and Greece were still European origin civilizations founded by European people.
One can argue that the Romans saw people from African as superior people than own Northern European neighborhoods. But again...Rome was a European origin civilizations found by Europeans. The OP is trying to say the opposite. Anyone who argues against this needs get serious help.
I can show you many Black Romans men fu ching white slave girls and prostitute. In pictures...
Can you show me one white Roman man fu ching a Black woman?
If you can find one, please show me, if you cannot then why? Do you understand the significance?
Black male domination of Rome.
Lion on Lionese:
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: MUUUURZZZZ!
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: ^^ Tbaa..baa..baa..
find some clear indigenous Africans being mentioned. And by contribution I mean not swarthy Southern Italians fuvking light skinned chicks in Pompeii whore houses. Something more intellectual.
Use your magnifier and show us the "swarthy" whites here. LOL! Go on Duncey, we are all waiting...
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: ^^ Shut up and go grab your magnifier so you can see MUURZ at play
I am waiting Haney, I be up all night
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: Skunt
Zoom in here...zoom in with your fancy digital magnifier
MUURZ!!!
Roman oil lamp. Photographed in exibition "100.000 Jahre Sex" in "Haus der Natur" Salzburg.
quote: In the “Introduction” to the Priapeia, the translators point out that “The worship of Priapus amongst the Romans was derived from the Egyptians, who, under the form of Apis, the Sacred Bull, adored the generative Power of Nature,” adding that “the Phallus was the ancient emblem of creation, and representative of the gods Bacchus, Priapus, Hermaphroditus, Hercules, Shiva, Osiris, Baal and Asher, who were all Phallic deities.”
Posted by mena7 (Member # 20555) on :
Bust of a Roman Senator by Melchior Barthel. It was created in 1650 ,It is probably the copy of a Roman bust in private aka secret collection.
Roman black generals by Melchior Barthel. It is probably the copy of two Roman busts in private collection.
Roman General
Roman General
Roman General
Roman Moorish General
the Marriage of Theogene and Charicle by Workshop of Francoise de la Planche.
I see the symbolism of black European nobles crowning the white European nobles as king and queen under the watch of the mulato or white Pope.
The Ancient Roman using bleach cream is a strong proof that the ancient Roman were black and brown people.
Ironlion say:Romans and bleaching cream:
In 200 B.C., ancient Greek women applied white lead powder and chalk to lighten their skin. It was considered fashionable for Greek women to have a pale complexion.
Roman women also favored a pale complexion. Men also wore makeup to lighten their skin tone. They would use white lead powder, chalk, and creams to lighten their skin tone. Wealthy Romans favored white lead paste, which can lead to disfigurements and death.
The cream is made out of animal fat, starch, tin oxide. The fat would be made from animal carcasses and they heated the carcasses to remove any color. Tin oxide is made out of heating tin metal in air. The animal fat provides a smooth texture and the tin oxide provided color to the cream. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundation
Now answer Lioness...why would albinos white women bleach their skin????
And why would albinos white men bleach their skin???
You see the picture better now?
Were Romans albinos???? Please respond!
Sorry if that hurt [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
Mena say: In this Eurocentric and bias article about the slave trade (blame the African)Italian writer Piero Scaruffi accidentaly revealed that the Roman Empire had black and white Emperors and black and white Popes. I am asking were are the statues and paintings of the black Roman emperors and the black Popes. Western Academia and museums are only showing the white statues and paintings.
In the Frontline article about black and brown USA families that became white the writer states American families with the last Roman and Greek names Caesar, Titus, Pompey and Aesop were families of colour .
So call bust of a black African by Nicolas Cordier a French artist working in Rome in the 17 cent CE. Probably the copy of the bust of a Roman noble, senator, general or Emperor.
Black African Rome 1610
Nicolas Cordier African bust look like this Roman bronze head.
Bust of black Roman with tight corkscrew curls
Black Roman Emperor Maximilian Daia/Daya
Roman Emperor Titus. I saw a coin of Titus father Emperor Vespasian with wooly hair.
Scipio the African have a very small mouth. Maybe he look like those North African minority with a rare phenotype.
Posted by mena7 (Member # 20555) on :
Black Roman statue in the Louvre museum.
Black Roman fisherman in the Louvre museum
Black Roman
Roman Emperor Karakala
Emperor Karakala
Consul Lucius Junius Brutus. Probably a black Roman with East African face and straight hair similar to the Tebu, Garamante, Touareg, Abyssinian and Somalian.
frizzy hair Marcus Brutus by Michelangelo
Black phenotype Brutus bust by Michelangelo.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by mena7:
Black phenotype Brutus bust by Michelangelo.
Mena, is Sylvester Stallone technically black phenotype?
Posted by IronLion (Member # 16412) on :
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Really now, lol, NO big surprise there....been sighted you're the kind of 'brotha' to bed up Becky.... and DWBCL: that's just it: there is none- it's like comparing glass ('white' woman) to diamonds (Black woman)
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He likes to ride Elephants too, just like the other brotha Hannibal!
quote:
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shows a basic variability and the typical signs of a certain degree of isolation between them and other populations analysed; in particular, the Vallepietra sample showed an unusually high frequency (71.3%) of mtDNA haplogroups which are typical of Near Eastern and South-Western Asian populations. 
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No hope for lyingass, can you see his real animal hair now. An albino with curly hair was not yet born. 
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Jack Osborne as a baby. See his straight neanderthal hair?
This is a 19th century impression done by Jean-Paul_Laurens, but you get the idea of the King'sethniciy insantly
Afro-Romano Emperor Macrinus
Half Iberian half Slava Emperor Trajan 
Romano Moorish Emperor Diadumenianus
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