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Originally posted by Pulp:
THREAD TOPIC: Why does Marc hate whites? Why is he married to a white woman?
Are Marcs forefathers American Anglo-Saxons who couldn’t keep there trousers up.

Marc will you openly admit in this forum that you are married to a European woman?
Yes or No?

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^ No, he is too ashamed of what he admits is his 'justified' hypocrisy.

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Int J Legal Med. 2005 Sep ;119 (5):303-5 15834734 (P,S,G,E,B)
Polish population study on Y chromosome haplotypes defined by 18 STR loci.

Polymorphism of 18 STR loci specific to the human Y chromosome (DYS19, DYS388 , DYS389I, DYS389II, DYS390 , DYS391, DYS392, DYS393, DYS426, DYS437, DYS438, DYS439, DYS460, GATA H4.1, DYS385 a/b, and YCAII a/b) was evaluated by means of a multiplex (octadecaplex) PCR reaction and capillary electrophoresis in a Polish population sample of 208 unrelated males. A total of 192 different haplotypes and 183 unique haplotypes were identified. The observed haplotype diversity was 0.998, while discrimination capacity was 92.3%. DYS389 was shown to be the most valuable in discrimination of similar haplotypes, whereas DYS388, DYS393, DYS426, and DYS438 did not affect the discrimination power of the multiplex.

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^^^^Why don't you post this Marc?? Doesn't fit into your agenda?

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Originally posted by Marc Washington:
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Bro al Takruri. I sent this letter to your mail box but it was full. I wrote:

Thanks for your empathy. I realize there is some hypocrisy in my saying that I feel Rasol and company heckle those outside their clique and thereby hamper a free expression of ideas. But, there I go heckling them.

So, the hypocrisy. I condemn them for heckling and now am doing it myself. I am trying to intimidate them to the point that they stop posting disrespectful, off-topic comments.

And I know their strategy of being polite as bait in one post to draw people to respond whereupon they bring out the daggers and stab away as the dialogue unrolls - which is their goal; just to trash people. Hardly more than that.

So, even their innocuous comments I attack trying to get to the point where their tone becomes consistently respectful.

The brass knuckles are off and I'll be hammering away for the rest of my life with them if it takes that long.

I do appreciate your empathy towards to me.


Marc

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Int J Legal Med. 2005 Sep ;119 (5):303-5 15834734 (P,S,G,E,B)
Polish population study on Y chromosome haplotypes defined by 18 STR loci.

Polymorphism of 18 STR loci specific to the human Y chromosome (DYS19, DYS388 , DYS389I, DYS389II, DYS390 , DYS391, DYS392, DYS393, DYS426, DYS437, DYS438, DYS439, DYS460, GATA H4.1, DYS385 a/b, and YCAII a/b) was evaluated by means of a multiplex (octadecaplex) PCR reaction and capillary electrophoresis in a Polish population sample of 208 unrelated males. A total of 192 different haplotypes and 183 unique haplotypes were identified. The observed haplotype diversity was 0.998, while discrimination capacity was 92.3%. DYS389 was shown to be the most valuable in discrimination of similar haplotypes, whereas DYS388, DYS393, DYS426, and DYS438 did not affect the discrimination power of the multiplex.

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And I'll add this since it's in your photoshop.





^^^^Why don't you post this Marc?? Doesn't fit into your agenda?

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Originally posted by rasol:

OJ Simpson has better excuses and deserves more 'empathy' than you.

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Originally posted by alTakruri:
If the woman I was once married to and who bore my
children was sucking the dick of each of her new
'boyfriends' in plain view of our legitimate children
(my heirs) huddled in the staircase no telling what I'd do!

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Originally posted by rasol:

OJ Simpson has better excuses and deserves more 'empathy' than you.

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Originally posted by rasol:
I think the digression is mostly meant to get Marc off the hook.

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I think the digression is mostly meant to get Marc off the hook.

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Originally posted by xyyman:
I am not sure Marc is on any "hook". You don't know the man's situation. A better strategy would be to rationalize why he had a Euro wife, "if" he did have one.

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Originally posted by xyyman:
@ Altk - What is going on here? Suddenly we are self-destructing. All this tribalism coming from you and others. I expect better Sage.

An apology is in order. You said you are African, I thought you meant black. But culturally you seem AA. You know the badlands 28th & Diamond. And yes Hakim is still there, stopped by Brown Sugar last weekend. The area is going through a re-vitalization. The African bros are really helping that effort. Infact they control Woodland Ave.

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Originally posted by xyyman:
BTW I know you are not calling MEEE a Fag. After your beatdown in Homosexuality in Africa by Jo Nogowa. But to each his own but keep it to yourself.

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@ Ako. That was an old thread started by the Altk about more than a year ago. The Sage's position was that homosexuality was/is "accepted", which is different to existed, in Africa throughout history. I beleive he drew some correlation to the Greeks and African warrior clans. Jo was a poster that gave him a spanking on the issue. I believe Jo is/was an African. Very knowledgable also. Just as Altk. Got to admit Sage you got a beating on that one.

BTW- Why do you think Prop 8 failed. Homosexuality is NOT an African/Black thing.

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Originally posted by alTakruri:
Get a sense of humor man. That was all tongue in cheek roorag.

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@ Altk - What is going on here? Suddenly we are self-destructing. All this tribalism coming from you and others. I expect better Sage.

An apology is in order. You said you are African, I thought you meant black. But culturally you seem AA. You know the badlands 28th & Diamond. And yes Hakim is still there, stopped by Brown Sugar last weekend. The area is going through a re-vitalization. The African bros are really helping that effort. Infact they control Woodland Ave.

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@ Ako. That was an old thread started by the Altk about more than a year ago. The Sage's position was that homosexuality was/is "accepted", which is different to existed, in Africa throughout history. I beleive he drew some correlation to the Greeks and African warrior clans. Jo was a poster that gave him a spanking on the issue. I believe Jo is/was an African. Very knowledgable also. Just as Altk. Got to admit Sage you got a beating on that one.

BTW- Why do you think Prop 8 failed. Homosexuality is NOT an African/Black thing.

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Originally Posted by Knowledgeiskey:
Allow me to explain this is "laymen" terms. You're clearly speaking upon the pale phenotype of East Asians and Europeans (since you should already know cranio-facially/phenotypically speaking, Africa pretty much covers the world, I won't go into details on that) . This evolution/mutation is a recent adaptation, considering an evolutionary time line. This occurred due to the fact when humans move into northern latitudes need to be lighter skinned in order to allow UV in to produce Vitamin D(since dark skin was evolved to protect from harmful UV, therefore it prevents from absorbing UV to produce Vitamin D).

Early humans as well as early Europeans were hunter gatherers, in a hunter gatherers diet you will find food which contains adequate amounts of Vitamin D, through fish, meats, egg yolks etc... Absorbing enough of this Vitamin D will provide humans with enough Vitamin D to keep their skin dark with no need to be pale, since their receiving the Vitamin D through their diets. A clear example of a human population which consumes adequate amounts of vitamin d and retains melanin, are Eskimos. If you do some research you will notice that an Eskimos diet consists of rich amounts of Vitamin D, and if they would stop eating this diet, Eskimos would develop Vitamin D deficiencies, which surface as rickets, the reason for this is as explained, when humans move to northern latitudes/lower uv environments they aren't receiving as much sun(obviously) and since dark skin protects from harmful UV rays, it blocks out the ability to produce synthesize UV. The sun is one main source of Vitamin D along with diet. So in northern latitudes under a farmers diet(which doesn't provide an individual with adequate amounts of Vitamin D as a hunter gatherers diet would) humans would have to be lighter skinned, as explained, to allow the synthesis of UV for the production of Vitamin D, since dark skin blocks out the sun

Therefore, as explained light skin was evolved to allow the synthesis of Uv for the production of Vitamin d, but remember early Europeans were hunter gatherers, just as Eskimos are/were, so early Europeans retained their melanin levels as well, until agriculture spread. But agriculture /farming didn't spread into Europe until about 8kya with the Neolitic revolution. This new way of living decreased Europeans intake of vitamin D, since a farmers diet is not full with the adequate amounts of Vitamin D that a hunter gatherers fisher/herders diet consists of.


Therefore during this era, Europeans and East Asians evolved pale skin to allow UV in to produce Vitamin D through synthesis.

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Originally posted by meninarmer:
^ To be EFFECTIVELY environmentally adapted, European physiology would have adjusted melanin levels WITHOUT trading off immunization, as is true with the INUITS.

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Originally posted by Knowledgeiskey718:
Lmao, still with the Inuits I see. The only way Inuits retain melanin is through consumption of a rich Vitamin D diet. Which is why if Inuits stop consuming this diet, develop rickets. ---Fact


Fact: Everyone comes from Africa. Including Europeans, Asians, Oceanic's etc...

Fact:Pale skin of East Asians and Europeans occurred independently and separately from eachother. Meaning not at the same time. Meaning East Asians didn't come from African albinos and neither did Europeans. Meaning Europeans pale skin didn't come from Asians, nor vice versa. The genes were independently evolved in both populations. Except for Africans, Africans don't have these mutations as East Asians and Europeans do.


Fact:Man evolved in the hot African sun as black, to be able to protect themselves from the harmful UV rays, man walked OOA(Out Of Africa) black, as we can see from Oceanic's(Australians, Melanesians etc..). But when humans move into northern latitudes without the intense sunrays, darkskin is a disadvantage since it blocks out the ability to synthesize UV. Under lower UV environments skin has to be lighter to be able to let in UV to allow production of Vitamin through synthesis. This is what pale skin evolved for.


Fact: Pale skin doesn't have to evolve if there is enough Vitamin D in ones diet to allow the melanin levels to stay strong. Clear example of a human population retaining pigmentation under harsh low UV environments are Eskimos.

Fact:Results reveal a clear tendency for the EUP sample to cluster with recent Africans, while LUP and MES samples cluster with recent Europeans. Meaning during early upper paleolithic Europeans were still tropically adapted, but by the late upper paleolithic, Europeans were already becoming cold adapted.

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Allow me to explain this is "laymen" terms. You're clearly speaking upon the pale phenotype of East Asians and Europeans (since you should already know cranio-facially/phenotypically speaking, Africa pretty much covers the world, I won't go into details on that) . This evolution/mutation is a recent adaptation, considering an evolutionary time line. This occurred due to the fact when humans move into northern latitudes need to be lighter skinned in order to allow UV in to produce Vitamin D(since dark skin was evolved to protect from harmful UV, therefore it prevents from absorbing UV to produce Vitamin D).

Early humans as well as early Europeans were hunter gatherers, in a hunter gatherers diet you will find food which contains adequate amounts of Vitamin D, through fish, meats, egg yolks etc... Absorbing enough of this Vitamin D will provide humans with enough Vitamin D to keep their skin dark with no need to be pale, since their receiving the Vitamin D through their diets. A clear example of a human population which consumes adequate amounts of vitamin d and retains melanin, are Eskimos. If you do some research you will notice that an Eskimos diet consists of rich amounts of Vitamin D, and if they would stop eating this diet, Eskimos would develop Vitamin D deficiencies, which surface as rickets, the reason for this is as explained, when humans move to northern latitudes/lower uv environments they aren't receiving as much sun(obviously) and since dark skin protects from harmful UV rays, it blocks out the ability to produce synthesize UV. The sun is one main source of Vitamin D along with diet. So in northern latitudes under a farmers diet(which doesn't provide an individual with adequate amounts of Vitamin D as a hunter gatherers diet would) humans would have to be lighter skinned, as explained, to allow the synthesis of UV for the production of Vitamin D, since dark skin blocks out the sun

Therefore, as explained light skin was evolved to allow the synthesis of Uv for the production of Vitamin d, but remember early Europeans were hunter gatherers, just as Eskimos are/were, so early Europeans retained their melanin levels as well, until agriculture spread. But agriculture /farming didn't spread into Europe until about 8kya with the Neolitic revolution. This new way of living decreased Europeans intake of vitamin D, since a farmers diet is not full with the adequate amounts of Vitamin D that a hunter gatherers fisher/herders diet consists of.


Therefore during this era, Europeans and East Asians evolved pale skin to allow UV in to produce Vitamin D through synthesis.

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Independant development of lighter skin is called covergent evolution.

Covergence is generally considered evidence of adaptation.

The potential for variation in skin color with variations in solar radiation, was established in Africa with the early migration of humans into temperate [southern] latitudes.

As with other features - non Africans are developed upon an African genetic background.

IE - European pale skin, is based on original African genes for dark skin, and heavily modified, actually effectively disabled by recent mutation.

Dark skinned non Africans - from Australia to Pacific Islands not *only* have dark skin, but ancient genes devoid of recent mutations found in -all- leucoderms.

They are Blacks because their ancestors were - all humans are descendant from Equatorial Africans, all of whom were Black.

Even the lighter skinned Blacks of parts of Southern Africa have skin color genes -derived from- the skin color genes of darker Blacks.

This variation itself is proof of the environmental basis for skin color variation.

If there is no -downside- for vitamin synthesis due to high melanin levels, then there is no reason for African skin color to vary.

Indeed, there is no reason for tanning at all.

Everyone would be blue black, and stay that way.

^ These facts are reiterrated for anyone who missed them the 1st few dozen times.

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These are all “theories” on how the skin became pale. The only fact is they. .. Europeans. . .are pale.

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That seems pretty serious. Seems like signals from one eye goes to both sides of the brain in a normal person but only to one side with the albinos.

But you are saying Whites are wired the same way?

And what about the half-breeds.

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That seems pretty serious. Seems like signals from one eye goes to both sides of the brain in a normal person but only to one side with the albinos.

But you are saying Whites are wired the same way?

And what about the half-breeds.

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Those afflicted with this ocular defect will show symptoms of very poor eyesight at an early age requiring seeing aids (glasses or corrective surgery) with sight in the 20/50 to 20/90 range, or worst. They will also exhibit an optical sensitivity to sunlight called, photophobia requiring those large wrap around sunglasses. They will always seem to be squinting in sunlight.
This genetic defect began in Africans suffering from Albinism. They may have black skin and yellow to blue eyes, or white skin with brown to yellow eye color.

The significance on levels of neuromelanins are their direct connection and interactions with Dopamine.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dopamine

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Yeah. But to prove your point. . . where is the correlation between Whites and Albinos. Yes they have similarities when it comes to light skin. But someone said it is a different gene. What about the "wired" thing. Are Whites wired the same as Albinos per your drawing?

Yes both may be suited to living a sunlight -free environment but that "may be" where the similarity ends.

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That seems pretty serious. Seems like signals from one eye goes to both sides of the brain in a normal person but only to one side with the albinos.

But you are saying Whites are wired the same way?

And what about the half-breeds.

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Those afflicted with this ocular defect will show symptoms of very poor eyesight at an early age requiring seeing aids (glasses or corrective surgery) with sight in the 20/50 to 20/90 range, or worst. They will also exhibit an optical sensitivity to sunlight called, photophobia requiring those large wrap around sunglasses. They will always seem to be squinting in sunlight.
This genetic defect began in Africans suffering from Albinism. They may have black skin and yellow to blue eyes, or white skin with brown to yellow eye color.

The significance on levels of neuromelanins are their direct connection and interactions with Dopamine.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dopamine

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Opps quote :"They look like any admixed African of today to me.
They very likely existed in both Egypt, Rome, and Africa. Originating in Africa."

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go easy Argie!!

But I know what meant to say Meninarmer.

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Originally posted by Pulp:
THREAD TOPIC: Why does Marc hate whites? Why is he married to a white woman?
Are Marcs forefathers American Anglo-Saxons who couldn’t keep there trousers up.

Marc will you openly admit in this forum that you are married to a European woman?
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^ It's a legitimate question since he references his father, in effort to generate some faux credibility for his loonie photoshop-clowning claims.

Of coursew by not admiting this, he admits his SHAME at his own hypocrisy, and reveals the self hatred that has driven this thread from day one.

lol. you're busted marc.

all the more reason to rage tantrum, right?

rage on....

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ROTFLOL

So Marc hates whites so much as the genocidal savages yet he himself is married to a white woman!

So which is it Marc? You only hate the white man but not the white woman? Or do you just tell yourself that your wife is merely a black woman who suffers from albinism??

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Now who is BSing who here? What about the refuge "theory". Where is DJ (and Rasol)when you need him to explain their BS refuge rants.

Hey genious, DJ, hope I don't have to explain the descrepancies.


Y-DNA haplogroup R is believed to have arisen approximately 27,000 years ago in Asia. The two currently defined sublcades are R1 and R2.

Haplogroup R1 is estimated to have arisen during the height of the Last Glacial Maximum (LGM), about 18,500 years ago, most likely in southwestern Asia. The two most common descendant clades of haplogroup R1 are R1a and R1b. R1a is believed to have arisen on the Eurasian Steppe, and today is most frequently observed in eastern Europe and in western and central Asia. R1b is believed to have arisen in southwest Asia and today is most frequently observed in Europe and especially in western Europe, which it entered after the LGM largely in the form of R1b1b2. The Atlantic Modal Haplotype, or AMH, is the most common STR haplotype in haplogroup R1b1b2a.
R2 is most often observed in Asia, especially on the Indian sub-continent and in central Asia.

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So if the Romans looked like this, per Britannica, then a thousand years before they were probably looked like Bantus. Heh! Heh! Heh! Heh!










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The portraits were popular among nineteenth and early twentieth century collectors, and this had a tendency to isolate them from their funerary contexts. They were studied by classicists and art historians who, basing their conclusions on details in the paintings such as hairstyles, jewellery and costume, identified the portraits as being those of Greek or Roman settlers who had adopted Egyptian burial customs.

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