Those are Australoids, not Blacks. Note even that the video title is highlighted with ". Its not claiming they are Black Africans. Once again you have proven yourself as a retard.
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Once again, stop the self-hate and just admit what your race looks like.
Next you will probably be claiming Negroids have pale white skin.
Its very bizarre. Your self-hate is causing you to claim white features are black.
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Those are Australoids, not Blacks. Note even that the video title is highlighted with ". Its not claiming they are Black Africans. Once again you have proven yourself as a retard.
Uhh retard did you watch the video? At he begging it said Africans and Islanders with blond hair and blue eyes, now go back and watch you dumb ass.
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quote:Originally posted by EuroNutSlayer: [QB] Black baby with natural blond hair-
That child is clearly mixed race, not black. Though under your racial classification scheme anyone with dark skin (even a mild tan) you equate to 'black', so i'm probably wasting my time trying to educate you.
You have made it clear you are not educated. There is far more to race than skin pigmentation.
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quote:Originally posted by cassiterides: Negroids do not have blonde hair.
Once again, stop the self-hate and just admit what your race looks like.
Next you will probably be claiming Negroids have pale white skin.
Its very bizarre. Your self-hate is causing you to claim white features are black.
LOL bitch sit down somewhere, majority of the white caucasiods that you post, were always clearly mixed race, so why don't you stop your self hate tell the white bitches to stop getting ass implants stop getting lip injections stop getting breast implants, stop tanning to look ethnic and embrace what god gave them, because none of the above white women have naturally.
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quote:Originally posted by EuroNutSlayer: [QB] Black baby with natural blond hair-
That child is clearly mixed race, not black. Though under your racial classification scheme anyone with dark skin (even a mild tan) you equate to 'black', so i'm probably wasting my time trying to educate you.
You have made it clear you are not educated. There is far more to race than skin pigmentation.
Are you mentally handicap? The black baby is a black American, you do understand that black americans are generational mixed? That baby has two black parents retard thus making him black of African descent and HE IS majority black.
You are the same little retarded cunt that used the racial reality website so the only one who seems uneducated is you. Don't get pissed because blacks have everything that whites have,plus look better than your people when we have it LOL!
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quote:Originally posted by EuroNutSlayer: Uhh retard did you watch the video? At he begging it said Africans and Islanders with blond hair and blue eyes, now go back and watch you dumb ass.
The video is of Australoids, not Negroids. There are only two African-Americans in that video.
Blue eyes are exclusive to Caucasoids. Bear in mind something like 60% of African Americans have Caucasoid genes through admixture, its really not surprising blue eyes appear in an extreme minority of African-Americans through their partial white ancestry.
The people today with the highest recognised populations of blue eyes are Caucasoids (particuarly of Europe). Around 75% of Germans have blue eyes.
Blue eyes are not found in pure-blooded Negroids. They are not a Negroid trait.
Most black woman today however crave light eyes like white woman so buy eye contacts, just how they straighten their hair to look more like whites as well.
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quote:Originally posted by element: I see dyed hair, eye contacts & blotchy pink skin on her cheek..which is still visible after her makeover.
She is a natural blue eyed blonde. Her name is Danielle trixie. She is an adult model, and lists her natural hair colour as blonde on her website and in magazine interviews.
Basically you have to stoop so low to deny she is a natural blonde because you are amazed by her beauty. Black woman in contrast are hideous.
lol RETARD the truth is majority of your people have neither blond hair nor blue eyes, most of you white women are bleach blonds, not natural at all. In fact only 1-2 percent of your population has blond hair, and even less of you have red hair, so please with out the hair dye or the makeup white women are ugly ass ****, I mean really? At the age of 25 white women look 60 years old, which is why white men are always trading white women in for someone younger.
LOL but something like this rarely if ever happens to black women.
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quote:Originally posted by EuroNutSlayer: Uhh retard did you watch the video? At he begging it said Africans and Islanders with blond hair and blue eyes, now go back and watch you dumb ass.
The video is of Australoids, not Negroids. There are only two African-Americans in that video.
Blue eyes are exclusive to Caucasoids. Bear in mind something like 60% of African Americans have Caucasoid genes through admixture, its really not surprising blue eyes appear in an extreme minority of African-Americans through their partial white ancestry.
The people today with the highest recognised populations of blue eyes are Caucasoids (particuarly of Europe). Around 75% of Germans have blue eyes.
Blue eyes are not found in pure-blooded Negroids. They are not a Negroid trait.
Most black woman today however crave light eyes like white woman so buy eye contacts, just how they straighten their hair to look more like whites as well.
LOL stupid sit your retarded ass down clearly you didn't watch the video because there were no Afro-Americans in that video those people were Africans and Islanders Meles, not Aussies retard, not only that there are indeed populations in Africa without admixture from caucasions with blue or green eyes, so what are you talking about?
Whites are far from pure being 1/3 African and 2/3 Asian idiot, black Americans have very little admixture in their gene pool and it isn't enough to change their phenotype, black americans mostly descend from present day Nigeria and Nigerians are known for having light eyes in their population without admixture so please save it.
Heck there was a white baby with blue eyes just born to a Nigerian couple.
Not only that albinism is common in the Nigerian population and thats pretty much all blue/green eyes are a form of albinism..
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quote:Originally posted by EuroNutSlayer: Don't get pissed because blacks have everything that whites have,plus look better than your people when we have it LOL!
Blacks don't have white features. Are you for real?
So are you now saying blacks have pale white skin, thin noses and straight hair?
You have deep insecurities.
Even the most militant afrocentrics on this forum admit whites have features blacks don't e.g. straight hair and light pigmentation.
I really don't understand your logic. If you are claiming black people have all white features, then why are you calling black people black and white people white?
If what you are saying is true, then there would be no phenotypic difference between the races.
But this is clearly refuted by common observation.
Please tell me you are just a parody account. Otherwise your self-hate is the worst i have yet come across.
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Blacks don't have white features. Are you for real?So are you now saying blacks have pale white skin, thin noses and straight hair?
LOL black people don't have pale white skin for the most part thank GOD, but some do have pale white skin of course like the baby that was just born to the nigerian couple, but yes blacks have high bridge noses, and straight hair both of those traits are not a race thing, the only thing that whites have that rarely no one has unless there Africans is pale skin, the other traits can be found in other populations.-
You have deep insecurities. Even the most militant afrocentrics on this forum admit whites have features blacks don't e.g. straight hair and light pigmentation.
LOL the only insecure one is the idiot that has to promote his own people on a majority black forum to blacks, are you so desperate, that you want black people to desire you so much?
Most of the features whites have can be found in black African or Island Mele populations.
I really don't understand your logic. If you are claiming black people have all white features, then why are you calling black people black and white people white?
LOL I don't get you? There isn't one set of features that whites have to themselves except white skin.
If what you are saying is true, then there would be no phenotypic difference between the races.
There hardly is one.
But this is clearly refuted by common observation. :confused:Please tell me you are just a parody account. Otherwise your self-hate is the worst i have yet come across.
LOL the self hater is the one that is promoting his own people on a majority black forum, because you have low self esteem, if you didn't you wouldn't have to put down others, the truth is white women change there appearance far more than blk women period.
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quote:Originally posted by EuroNutSlayer: but some do have pale white skin of course like the baby that was just born to the nigerian couple
That is called atavism or the re-emergence of genes. It happens in South Africa to white parents who have black children.
This happens since many White South Africans in South Africa have partial black ancestry through admixture.
Ever heard of Sandra Liang?
Both her biological parents were white. But since she had a black ancestor 400 years back, those genes resurfaced. Both her siblings however were white. And this happens vice-versa. Blacks in America can give birth to white looking children because they have white admixture in their family tree.
This is though very rare. It does though highlight the dangers of race mixing. There is no way to get rid of another races genes and they can resurface at anytime.
quote:but yes blacks have high bridge noses, and straight hair both of those traits are not a race thing,
Races differ in hair texture, cranial formation, nose shape etc. Negroids do not have orthognathic faces or thin noses, nor do they have straight hair.
Negroids are wooly haired, wide (platyrrhine) nosed and have prognathic lower jaws.
Caucasoids in contrast are straight-wavy haired, thin lepphortine nosed and orthognathic (no prognathism).
You don't need even skin on a Caucasoid or Negroid to tell them apart, you can identify them by their distinct crania and morphology.
Caucasoids have a nasal sill or rim, Negroids however don't. Basically there are hundreds of different distinctions between the races. In your bizarre racial classification however you base it solely on pigmentation. You clearly have never studied physical anthropology.
And i see you are still denying basic facts.
Negroids do not have straight hair.
quote: Most of the features whites have can be found in black African or Island Mele populations.
Nope they can't.
quote: LOL I don't get you? There isn't one set of features that whites have to themselves except white skin.
Completely wrong. As i stated you are delusional and think race is only about skin pigment.
'White' as in 'white people' (Caucasoid, Europid) does not mean literally pale/white skinned. There is a whole different criteria in the classification.
You don't even need to see the skin of someone to classify them as Caucasoid, you only have to look at their crania.
Negroid and Caucasoid crania are nothing a like.
quote: LOL the self hater is the one that is promoting his own people on a majority black forum, because you have low self esteem, if you didn't you wouldn't have to put down others, the truth is white women change there appearance far more than blk women period.
Black woman straighten their hair to look like white woman.
In contrast whites are not trying to make their hair wooly or like afro's.
Why?
Because no one likes wooly hair. Its ugly. Even blacks themseleves admit it is, which is why they call ''good'' hair the straight hair whites have. They self-admit their own wooly hair texture is 'bad'. That is what self-hate is.
Self-hate exists in blacks because they have physical features which are not attractive. You don't though see any other race with the same problems.
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quote:Originally posted by EuroNutSlayer: but some do have pale white skin of course like the baby that was just born to the nigerian couple
quote: [QB][QUOTE]That is called atavism or the re-emergence of genes. It happens in South Africa to white parents who have black children.
And there is no proof that that black couple had white ancestry, so next lie idiot, Nigeria for the most part is black unlike South Africa who had black Africans and white Europeans living with each other.
This happens since many White South Africans in South Africa have partial black ancestry through admixture.
Ever heard of Sandra Liang?
Both her biological parents were white. But since she had a black ancestor 400 years back, those genes resurfaced. Both her siblings however were white. And this happens vice-versa. Blacks in America can give birth to white looking children because they have white admixture in their family tree.
Again nitwit that was in South AFRICA, where blacks and whites actually lived together not Nigeria a black country
This is though very rare. It does though highlight the dangers of race mixing. There is no way to get rid of another races genes and they can resurface at anytime.
Yea you are a retard please don't speak whites are 1/3 African and 2/3 Asian
quote:but yes blacks have high bridge noses, and straight hair both of those traits are not a race thing,
Races differ in hair texture, cranial formation, nose shape etc. Negroids do not have orthognathic faces or thin noses, nor do they have straight hair.
You have already been debunked already all groups have orthognathic and progthanic in their populations, I already highlighted that black Africans that live below the Sahara are the most diverse in hair form cranial formation aswell as noses, high bridge noses isn't a white thing nor is it a Asian thing.
Negroids are wooly haired, wide (platyrrhine) nosed and have prognathic lower jaws.
Retard your stupid ass has been debunked please bitch get some new material.
Caucasoids in contrast are straight-wavy haired, thin lepphortine nosed and orthognathic (no prognathism).
Youre a liar there are loads OF europeans that are prognathism).
You don't need even skin on a Caucasoid or Negroid to tell them apart, you can identify them by their distinct crania and morphology.
Youre a dumbass caucasuid was thrown out a long time ago, there is no such thing as a caucasiod idiot.-
Caucasoids have a nasal sill or rim, Negroids however don't. Basically there are hundreds of different distinctions between the races. In your bizarre racial classification however you base it solely on pigmentation. You clearly have never studied physical anthropology.
Obviously you haven't you retard everything you have stated has been debunked.
And i see you are still denying basic facts.
Negroids do not have straight hair.
Uhh yes they do people have shown you Africans with straight hair.
quote: Most of the features whites have can be found in black African or Island Mele populations.
Nope they can't.
quote: LOL I don't get you? There isn't one set of features that whites have to themselves except white skin.
Completely wrong. As i stated you are delusional and think race is only about skin pigment.
'White' as in 'white people' (Caucasoid, Europid) does not mean literally pale/white skinned. There is a whole different criteria in the classification.
LOL stupid bitch if you are going to have the same strict classifications for blacks its the same for white people.
You don't even need to see the skin of someone to classify them as Caucasoid, you only have to look at their crania.
LOL youre and idiot I bet you think whites and Indians are related lol what a dumb ****
Negroid and Caucasoid crania are nothing a like.
quote: LOL the self hater is the one that is promoting his own people on a majority black forum, because you have low self esteem, if you didn't you wouldn't have to put down others, the truth is white women change there appearance far more than blk women period.
Black woman straighten their hair to look like white woman.
In contrast whites are not trying to make their hair wooly or like afro's.
LOL but white bithces wear common Black hair styles they get butt implants botox for their lips and they also tan their skin everything that is natural to black women, all you have is hair.
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quote:Originally posted by element: I see dyed hair, eye contacts & blotchy pink skin on her cheek..which is still visible after her makeover.
She is a natural blue eyed blonde. Her name is Danielle trixie. She is an adult model, and lists her natural hair colour as blonde on her website and in magazine interviews.
Basically you have to stoop so low to deny she is a natural blonde because you are amazed by her beauty. Black woman in contrast are hideous.
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The troll patrol had debunked the retarded cassiterides earlier lets do a recap of what he said.--
Hi there again, retarded redneck.
Prognathism has been discussed and explained already a dozen times. So I will not go over it again, in detail.
What you shown is not representative for sub Saharan Africans.
Negroid - 48 to 53, mesorrhinic (intermediate). lol
This also goes for prognathism. As has been shown many times before, this too is intermediate. lol
From Charlie Bass : Prognathism is a normal characteristic found in all populations. It does not mean "Negro" any more than orthognathism means "Caucasoid." An aboriginal African skeletal population may be orthognathic without indicating "Hamitic" migrations; Egyptians may be prognathic without implying "Negro" penetration; and a single population may have (should have) both prognathic and orthognathic individuals without being considered a "mixed" population.
More on Skeletal Analysis and the Race Concept Author(s): John H. RobertsonSource: Current Anthropology, Vol. 20, No. 3 (Sep., 1979), pp. 617-619Published by: The University of Chicago Press on behalf of Wenner-Gren Foundation for AnthropologicalResearchStable URL: http://www.jstor.org/stable/2742137 .Accessed: 26/12/2010 09:27
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lol at dreads look unnatural. Now the xenophobic retarded redneck claims to be the expert on this too. lololololololol.
Dreadlocks are an artificial hair style created by matting, backcombing, twist & rip, twist & pin, twisting, brush rubbing, dread braiding.
They are clearly not natural. No one's hair naturally grows as a dreadlock. Blacks create the dreadlock hairstyle since they cannot grow natural long hair, but as i said dreadlocks do not look natural.
Retarded redneck, Dreads can grow naturally. All the above you claimed and quoted, is to make it appear more fine. It has nothing to do with dreads themselves growing naturally. when nappy hair grows it naturally becomes dread like. When it grows long enough it becomes long dreadlocks.
Hence the word: lock. The hair is locked naturally into a dread
Real Rastafarians never alter the process of their dreads. They let nature take its course.
Get it, retarded redneck. Smh.
Whether you think its naturally looking or not is completely irrelevant.
Examples of the beginning stages...
Babies hair,
^ no, they aren't Asians.lol
CA-SH*T-HE-RIDES with his dunce-bat Black People infatuated and obsessed-self fails to real-eyes that "matting, backcombing, twist & rip, twist & pin, twisting, brush rubbing, dread braiding" is how YTE PEOPLE artificially lock their hair into dreadlocks...smh...
We, speaking as a Black Woman who has been wearing her crown of locks for well over a decade now, need only let it grow Naturally and no comb it, and/or just twist it, and it will lock and grow suh....nothing else necessary....because it's a NATURAL TING....
Most yte people including and especially CA-SH*T-HE-RIDES do not overstand exactly what a 'Natural hairstyle' is when it comes to Black Women... lol
As a Black Woman, I do find it interesting that MEN are here arguing over WOMEN'S hair...lol....especially a YTE MAN, but then...it's been mentioned time and again that there is someting to be said bout this yte man who is so obsessed and infatuated with Black People and can't stay away from us...
I've never ina mi life eva had my hair treated with chemicals...the females ina mi family are not raised dem ways deh...we have always been taught that our Blackness and everything about it is our Natural Beauty...try look like yte gyal fe wah? smh kmrt
Carry on....lol...
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quote:Originally posted by cassiterides: Those are Australoids, not Blacks. Note even that the video title is highlighted with ". Its not claiming they are Black Africans. Once again.. blah blah blah... baa .. baa..baa
So says Junior the Retard Ninja!
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There are already plenty of threads on this forum that talk about whites adopting trends and styles from Africans in the diaspora.
Not a word by me, about whites adopting African styles or vice versa. You are so hung up on "who copied who", that you "see" it everywhere; so much so that you mistook my message for its anti-thesis.
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Doug doesn't seem to have a problem with the fact that this white girl's natural hair was actually curlier than it was after hair treatment. Interesting. Posts: 7516 | From: Somewhere on Earth | Registered: Jan 2008
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Can you share this "fact" with me; what is the name of the markers that constitute this 60%?
BTW, cassiterides thinks that anything short of an Afro, is tantamount to Blacks hating their own natural hair. However, whites can have all sorts of hairdos and they are still self-lovers, isn't that so, cassiterides?
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The Northeast Africa-based E1b1b1a subclade is defined by SNP M78. Somalia, Sudan and Egypt are among the present day countries with very high frequencies (60-90%) of the E1b1b1a M78 subclade. The STR data also support its origin in this area with a TMRCA estimated at 14-23 kya. The frequency of this subclade drops dramatically in Sub-Saharan Africa.
E1b1b1a1b. V32
The E1b1b1a1b (V32) subclade is a descendant of E1b1b1a1 (V12). E1b1b1a1b/V32 is highest in Somalia (47-75%), Sudan (52%) and Ethiopia (40%). All these chromosomes detected to date fall into the East African M78 g microsatellite cluster, which is associated with Cushitic (Afro-Asiatic) language groups in Somalia, Ethiopia and Kenya.
As we can all see the "Eurasian' component ('light blue') is insignifigant in Ethiopians/Northeast Africans. So you can reburry that "admixture" theory in the same patch that you dug it up from!
Louisvilleslugger.
So the conclusion is, they are vastly African, by far. Hence pure Africans. Therefore you lost again, as ussually. And I win again, as ussually.
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Well here's MY psychology on women's hair, since I didn't comment directly on it, after a response to the below series of posts.
quote:Originally posted by EuroNutSlayer: This is really stupid Africans didn't utilize hair chemicals because they didn't have that out, in the past. This is something that most women us now including Africans themselves, so I don't get the issue?
Chemical relaxer could have very well been invented without slavery, who knows.
quote:Originally posted by madness ensues: ^ That woman, despite her perm, may love herself more than you could ever know.
You people don't understand that many people don't think much.
You're judging regular people by your neurotic over-thinking patterns (which is fine, for intellectuals with a problem to solve).
That's why the sheer amount of talking you do doesn't correlate with the actual answers you find.
Simple people need simple solutions to simple problems. The answer is simply getting the right information into their minds, which runs on auto-pilot most of the time.
quote:Originally posted by madness ensues: Once upon a time...women were ashamed of this:
But then came long this:
and this...
THEN EVERY MAN AND WOMAN CAUGHT AMNESIA and forgot that only Black people used to like their woman with a fat-laden ass
quote:Originally posted by madness ensues: With the same amount of media push, these could become the only type of hair women the world over want to have:
In most cases, it really doesn't have anything to do with self-hate. It's just group-think.
Although I'd say we're a ways off from "the only type" comment just above even if exaggerating a little what was meant, I agree whole-heartedly with the above string of posts.
My opinion though is that kinky hair is absolutely beautiful, stunning, gorgeous, and amazing; it has this exotic quality to it, so although it's rare its rarity may only buttress that appearance. There is nothing wrong with it.
The opposite, very straight hair such as that you see on Asian cuties (North East Asians, and cuties, because them Asians know cute when they see it) is its equal. I do associate this hair as the hair that females typically wear, well, because, they *wear* it.
I do gotta admitt though, white chicks hair is just freakin sexy to me! It just seems more readily available to run your hands through. Not to mention in a ponytail the potential to ... Posts: 5555 | From: Tha 5th Dimension. | Registered: Apr 2006
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Here is an article from a black women's blog on the topic:
quote: 1.) The Homegirls.
More often then not, in a black hair commercial, you’ll find a group of women – the homegirls. Whether they’re in the bathroom getting ready for the club, out on the town, or even sitting around at lunch chatting and catching up, there will typically be at least two or three women involved. Somehow, the scene is always set against the tune of some bland, repetitive, hip-hop beat. And the conversation, though light and fun, is always discreetly laced with the most stereotypical black girl slang. Maybe I’m just out of the loop, but I can’t recall the last time I used phrases like "the bomb", "I’m about to hook you up", and "played out" amongst my friends. And all the neck rolling, gum-popping, and hair flipping to get a point across?! What’s up with that, America? Is that really how "we" act, as a whole? I can’t deal. 2.) The Same Look.
Though there are usually several women in the commercials, there is seldom much variety amongst the models’ looks and the hair styles that they wear. You can pretty much bet your last coin that all the women will have straightened hair of a dark brown or black hue. Now I can’t quite decide if this is because the products being advertised cater towards these specific looks, or if it’s because we’re to believe that straight, dark hair is more favorable than curly or colored hair. But I don’t like it, either way. I honestly can’t recall the last time I saw a commercial where women with natural or more unique hairstyles were represented, though these are the women I see out and about everyday. And I won’t even delve into the point that women who are clearly wearing weaves are often used to promote products that claim to strengthen and protect our own hair. Now, I’m currently and quite proudly wearing a partial sew-in myself, so this is in no way an anti-weave rant. However, if the products are supposed to make our natural hair fuller, healthier, and more shiny, the last thing I want to see is 8 ounces of Indian Remy being flipped and blown around, disguised as the results of a quality product. False advertising. 3.) The Problem.
From what I’ve noticed, black hair commercials almost always present a dilemma. Whether it’s “nappy” roots, fuzzy edges, or split ends – there is always some sort of problem to be corrected. Of course, I fully understand that products are created to correct specific hair concerns. However, why is it that we never see advertisements for basic, everyday products such as shampoo or deep conditioners. Are we, as black women, really only running to the haircare aisle when we need to zap new-growth with a relaxer or slick down "edges" with the latest, greatest gel or pomade?! I’d certainly beg to differ. While women of other ethnicities are regularly being offered quality products for routine maintenance and upkeep, it seems as though many of the ads geared specifically towards women of color are looking to fix our hair, as if it were a burden of some sort. It’s no coincidence that the vast majority of our commercials are for do-it-yourself relaxers. Where are the ads for natural haircare products? I’ll wait…
And if you have black hair care stores in your neighborhood, you will notice that the latest rage is to have floor to ceiling Ads for Remy hair extensions featuring black women with unnatural straight hair styles. Now claiming this is some sort of expression of creativity as opposed to crass commercialism by a hair care industry dominated by non blacks is ridiculous.
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Now compare these wanna be white hairstyles with authentic ancient African hairstyles. Yes, Africans were and are creative with their hair, but that has nothing to do with making it straight like Europeans.
Remy Indian hair styles for African American women:
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Doug your slave master now claims black cut their hair low because of self hate. Im sure he needs an internet feild nigger such as yourself to find bogus info to support his non sense..
quote:Originally posted by cassiterides:
Not only the females, but also the men.
Black males, such as President Barack Obama, now keep their hair closely cropped to avoid being seen with “African” hair.
Go pick your master Ca-shitty's cotton...
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Doug doesn't seem to have a problem with the fact that this white girl's natural hair was actually curlier than it was after hair treatment. Interesting.
I have a problem with black women getting weaves, extensions and chemical processing in their hair to make it look like that girls hair before and after when it isn't their natural hair texture.
For example:
People on this thread who have been making clowns of themselves can continue to do so all they want. There is no denying the fact that the styles of hair on the black women above is all in an attempt to look like white women and has absolutely nothing to do with ancient African hair weaving traditions, which did not produce white European hair styles or textures.
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Why you running around with a white European name you fake internet radical, you have self hate?? You think White names or better, the white man who owned or colonized your people told your peeps European names were better and now you Mom and Dad, self haters, named you the name of some Pink Pecker wood Englishman
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Why are you speaking English Edi-Amin-Obenga, you got self hate because you speak a peckerwood language Edi??
LMFAO at this House Nigger..
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quote:Originally posted by Edi-Amin-Obenga: People on this thread who have been making clowns of themselves can continue to do so all they want. There is no denying the fact that the styles of hair on the black women above is all in an attempt to look like white women and has absolutely nothing to do with ancient African hair weaving traditions, which did not produce white European hair styles or textures.
The only person making a clown of himself is you. You still have provided no evidence that AA women who get perms have self hate.
As your slave master said Black men get out hair cut low, very rarely are black men growing long hair, using your logic over 90% of black men are self haters..LOL
You are a clown, you can't even see how your slave mentality rhetoric glorifies the White man as if he were an Omnipotent god.
Back to the cotton feild nig.
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1)can only speak English and/or another European Language(French, Spanish etc).
2)Lives in an All white or predominantly white neighbor hood.
3) Buys and supports European/White/Jewish owned bis.
4) has had sex with a white woman.
5) has his hair cut low so his boss/Wife/Freinds et al wont be offended by his nappy hair.
6)Dresses like a European/White man.
Fake internet thug, where is your proof that AA women have self hate, how are you any different..??
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And for all those clowns defending this nonsense of black women who don't even wear their own hair anymore, why are you defending it? It isn't like blacks are making the majority of the money off it.
That right there is a pure example of the backwardness of some black folks who will take pride in something even when it is absolutely stupid and back assward.
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^Tropical africans were "doing hair" including wigs and weaves for thousands of years without the need for any white "role models".
Hair recap
Ancient Egyptian hair
Across the web assorted "biodiversity" proponents, wage a 'racial war' using hair studies of ancient Egyptians to prove a "Caucasian Egypt". But in fact the hair of Africans is highly variable, debunking their simplistic claims.
The hair of Africans is highly variable, ranging from tight curls of South African Bantu, to the loose curls and straight hair of peoples of East and NE Africa, all indigenously evolved over millennia as part of Africa’s high genetic diversity. This diversity undermines and ultimately dismisses simplistic "racial" claims based on hair.
Inconsistencies of the skewed "true negro" model and definitions of African hair
Dubious assertions, double standards and outmoded racial hair claims: Czech anthropologist Strouhal's 1971 study touched on hair, and advanced the most extreme racial definitions, claiming Nubians to be white Europids overrun by later waves of Negroes, and that few Negroes appeared in Egypt until the New Kingdom. Indeed, Strouhal went so far as to argue that 'Negroes' failed to survive long in Egypt, because they were ill-adapted to its arid climate! Tell that to the Saharans, Sudanese and Nubians! Such dubious claims have been thoroughly debunked by modern scholarship, however they continue in various guises by those who attempt to use "hair" to assign race 'percents' and categories to the ancients. Attempts to define racial categories based on the ancient hair rely heavily on extreme definitions, with "Negroids" typically being defined as narrowly as possible. Everything not meeting the extreme "type" is then classified as something else, such as "Caucasian".
Kieta (1990, Studies of Crania from Northern Africa) notes that while many scholars in the field have used an extreme "true negro" definition for African peoples, few have attempted to apply the same model in reverse and define a "true white." Such racial double standards are typical of much scholarship on the ancient Nile Valley peoples. A consistent approach for example would define the straight hair in Strouhal's hair sample as an exclusive Caucasian marker (10 out of 49 or approximately 20%) and make the rest (wavy and curled) hybrid or negro, at >80%. Assorted writers who support the Aryan race percent model however, are careful to avoid such consistency and typically only run the comparison one way.
QUOTE: "Strouhal (1971) microscopically examined some hair which had been preserved on a Badarian skull. The analysis was interpreted as suggesting a stereotypical tropical African-European hybrid (mulatto). However this hair is grossly no different from that of Fulani, some Kanuri, or Somali and does not require a gene flow explanation any more than curly hair in Greece necessarily does. Extremely "wooly" hair is not the only kind native to tropical Africa.." (S. O. Y. Keita. (1993). "Studies and Comments on Ancient Egyptian Biological Relationships," History in Africa 20 (1993) 129-54)
Disturbing attempts to use hair to prove race theories: Fletcher (2002) in Egyptian Hair and Wigs, gives an example of what she calls "disturbing attempts to use hair to prove assumptions of race and gender" involving 1800s European researcher F. Petrie, who sometimes sought to use excavation reports to prove his theories of Aegean settlers flowing into Egypt. Such disturbing attempts continue today in the use of hair for race category or percentage claims involving the ancient peoples, such as the "racial" analysis seen on several Internet blogs and websites, some thinly disguised fronts for neo-nazi groups or sympathizers.
Hair study applied a stereotyped "true negro" model and used late period samples of Egypt, after the coming of Greeks, Hyskos, etc as "representative" excluding the previous 2500 years of ancient civilization. A study of the hair of Egyptian mummies by Czech anthropologists Titlbachova and Titllbach (1977) (reported in Strouhal 1977) using only late period samples found a wide range of hair in mummies. Of the 14 samples, only 4 were from the south of Egypt, and none of the 14 samples were earlier than the 18th Dynasty. Essentially the previous 2,000 years + of Egyptain civilization and peopling are not represented. Only the narrowest definition is used to identify 'true negro' types'. All other intermediate types were deemed 'non-negroid.' If a similar procedure is used in reverse and designates only straight hair as a marker of a European, then only 4 out of 14 or 29% of the samples can be deemed "Caucasoid." Below is a breakdown of the Czech data:
Sample# 5- 18th-21st dynasties- Deir el medina- curly Sample# 8- 21st-25th dynasties- hair looks straight Sample# 11- Late to Greek Period- hair partly wavy Sample# 18- Late period Egypt- hair fine diameter Sample# 19- Greek period- wavy hair Sample# 29- 18-21st Dynasties- Deir El Medina- hair shape unascertainable - south Sample# 31- 18-21st dynasties- Deir El Median- wavy to curly - south Sample# 33- 21st-25th dynasties- appears straight Sample# 34- 21st-25th dynasties- shape difficult to determine Sample# 35- 21st-25th dynasties- wavy shape Sample# 40- 21-25th Dynasties- hair curly, Sample# 44- 21-25th Dynasties- appears straight Sample# 45- 21-25th Dynasties- appears wavy Sample# 46- Kharga Oasis- 4th-5th centuries AD
Using modern technology, the same Aryan Race models are undercut with the data actually showing that Egyptians group closer to Africans than vaunted white Nordics.
[1]"Nordic hair measurements"[/i]
Neo-Nazis and sympathizers tout the work of German researcher Pruner-Bey in the 1800s which derived racial indexes of hair including Negroes, Egyptians and Germans. Germanic hair is closer to that of the Egyptians they assert. But is it as they claim?
(Data of Bruner-Bey 1864- 'On human hair as a race character') - Negroid index: 57.40 - Egyptian index: 69.94 - White Germans: 66.33 Neo-Nazi conclusion: White German Nordics are 'closer' to Egyptians
Modern data using electron microscopes- Conti-Fuhrman & Massa (1972). Massa and Masali (1980)
Compare to Pruner Bey's 1864 data: - Negroid index: 57.40 - Egyptian index: 60.02 (modern electron microscope data) White Germans: 66.33 ______________________________________________________________________________ Conclusion using modern microscope data: Negroes much ‘closer’ to Egyptians than Nordics _____________________________________________________________________________________________________
Using hair for race identification as older research does can be shaky, but even when used, it undercuts ‘Aryan” clams as shown above.
Fletcher 2002 decries “"disturbing attempts to use hair to prove assumptions of race and gender..” Other credible scientists note:
"The reader must assume, as apparently do the authors, that the "coarseness" or "fineness" of hair can readily distinguish races and that hair is dichotomized into these categories. Problematically, however, virtually all who have studied hair morphology in relation to race since the 1920’s to the present have rejected such a characterization .. Hausman, as early as 1925, stated that it is "not possible to identify individuals from samples of their hair, basing identification upon histological similarities in the structure of scales and medullas, since these may differ in hairs from the same head or in different parts of the same hair". Rook (1975) pointed out nearly 50 years later out that "Negroid and Caucasoid hair" are "chemically indistinguishable". --Tom Mieczkowsk, T. (2000). The Further Mismeasure: The Curious Use of Racial Categorizations in the Interpretation of Hair Analyses. Intl J Drug Testing 2000;vol 2
Environmental factors can influence hair color, and the Egyptians routinely placed hair from different sources in mummy wrappings, making claims of "Nordic-haired" or "white" Egyptians dubious.
Mummification practices and dyeing of hair. Hair studies of mummies note that color is often influenced by environmental factors at burial sites. Brothwell and Spearman (1963) point out that reddish-brown ancient color hair is usually the result of partial oxidation of the melanin pigment. Other causes of hair color "blonding" involve bleaching, caused by the alkaline in the mummification process. Color also varies due to the Egyptian practice of dyeing hair with henna. Other samples show individuals lightening the hair using vegetable colorants. Thus variations in hair color among mummies do not necessarily suggest the presence of blond or red-haired Europeans or Near Easterners flitting about Egypt before being mummified, but the influence of environmental factors.
Egyptian practice of putting locks of hair in mummy wrappings. Racial analysis is also made problematic by the Egyptian practice of burying hair, in many "votive or funerary deposits buried separately from the body, a practice found from Predynastic to Roman times despite its frequent omission from excavation reports." (Fletcher 2002) In examining hair samples Fletcher (2004) notes that care is needed to determine what is natural scalp hair, versus hair from a wig, versus hair extensions to natural locks. Tracking the exact source of hair is also critical since the Egyptians were known to have placed locks of hair from different sources among mummy wrappings. (The Search for Nefertiti, By Joann Fletcher, HarperCollins, 2004, p. 93-94, 96)
Egyptians shaved much of their natural hair off and used wigs extensively as covering, obtaining much of the hair for wigs through trade. Discoveries" of "Aryan" or 'Nordic" hair are thus hardly 'proof' of incoming Caucasoids, but may be simply hair purchased from some source and made into a wig. This is much less dramatic than the exciting picture of inflowing 'Aryan' hordes.
The ancient Egyptians shaved off much of their own natural hair as a matter of personal hygiene and custom, and wore wigs in public. According to the Encyclopedia of body adornment (Margo DeMello, 2007, Greenwood Publishing Group, p. 101), "Boys and girls until puberty wore their hair shaved except for a side locl left on the side of their head. Many adults- both men and women- also shaved their hair as a way of coping with heat and lice. However, adults did not go about bald, and instead wore wigs in public and in private.. Wigs were initially worn by the elites, but later worn by women of all classes.."
The widespread use of wigs in ancient Egypt thus complicates and contradicts attempts at 'racial' analysis. Fletcher (2002) shows that many Egyptian wigs have been found with what is defined as straighter 'cynotrichous' hair. This however is hardly a marker of massive European or Near Eastern presence or admixture. Fletcher notes that the Egyptians often eschewed their own personal hair, shaving carefully and using wigs widely. The hair for these wigs was often obtained through trade. Indeed, "hair itself being a valuable commodity ranked alongside gold and incense in account lists from the town of Kahun." Image gallery | Articles | Google
Egyptian trading links with other regions is well known, and a commodity like straighter 'cynotrichous' hair could have been easily obtained via the Sahara, Levant, the Maghreb, Mediterranean contacts, or even the hair of Asiatic war captives or casualties from Egypt's numerous conflicts. There is little need to postulate mass influxes of European admixtures or populations to account for hair types in wigs. The limb proportion studies of the ancient Egyptians showing them to be much more related to tropical types than to Europids, is further demonstration of the fallacy of using hair as 'proof' of a 'Aryan' or predominantly European admixed Egypt.
Nubian wigs and wigs in Egypt
Such exchanges or use of hair appear elsewhere in the Nile valley. Tomb finds show Nubians themselves wearing wigs of straight hair. But one Nubian from the Royal valley, of the 12th century, named Maherpra, was found to be wearing a wig himself, made up of tightly curled 'negroid' hair, on top of his natural covering (Fletcher 2002). The so-called "Nubian wig" also appears in Egyptian art relief's depicting daily life, a stylistic arrangement thought to imitate those found in southern Egypt or Nubia. Such wigs appear to have been popular with both Egyptians and Nubians. Fletcher 2004 notes that the famous queen Nefertiti made frequent use of the Nubian wig: "Nefertiti and her daughter seem to have set a trend for wearing the Nubian wig.. a coiffure first worn by Nubian mercenaries and clearly associated with the military." A detail of a wall scene in Theban tomb TT.55 shows the queen wearing the Nubian wig. Infantrymen from the Nubia. Note both bow and battle-axe carried into combat.
Nubian infantrymen shown with distinctive Nubian wig. From Deir el-Bahri, Temple of Hatshepsut New Kingdom, Eighteenth Dynasty, 1480 B.C.
Hair studies of Nubians show built-in African genetic variability
Hair studies of Nubians have also been undertaken. One study at Semna, in Nubia (Daniel Hrdy 1978- Analysis of Hair Samples of Mummies from Semna South, American Journal of Physical Anthropology, (1978) 49: 277-262), found curling patterns intermediate between Northwest European and African samples. The X-group, especially males, showed more African elements than the Meroitic in the curling variables. Crimping and curvature data patterned in a northwest Europe direction. These data plots however do not necessarily indicate race admixture or percentages, or the presence of European migrants or colonists (see Keita 2005 below), but rather a data pattern of variation in how hair curls, and native African diversity which cases substantial overlap with non-African groups. This is a routine occurrence within human groups.
Africa has the highest phenotypic variation, just as it has the highest geentic variation- accommodating a wide range of features for its peoples without the need for any "race mix: Relethford (2001) shows that ".. methods for estimating regional diversity show sub-Saharan Africa to have the highest levels of phenotypic variation, consistent with many genetic studies." (Relethford, John "Global Analysis of Regional Differences in Craniometric Diversity and Population Substructure". Human Biology - Volume 73, Number 5, October 2001, pp. 629-636) Hanihara 2003 notes that [significant] "..intraregional diversity are present in Subsaharan Africans.." While ancient Egypt had gene flow in various eras, hair variations easily fall under this pattern of built-in, indigenous diversity, as well as the above noted cultural practice of using wigs with hair from different places obtained through trade.
Among Europeans for example, some people have curlier hair and some have straighter hair than others. Various peoples of East and West Africa also have narrow noses, which are different from other peoples elsewhere in Africa, nevertheless they still remain Africans. DNA studies also note greater variation within selected populations that without. Since Africa has the highest genetic diversity in the world, such routine variation in characteristics such as hair need not indicate any racial percentage or admixture, but simply part of the built-in genetic diversity of the ancient peoples on the continent. Indeed, the Semna study author notes that blondism, especially in young children, is common in many dark-haired populations (e.g., Australian, Melanesian), and is still found in some Nubian villages. As regards hair color variation, reddish type hair is associated with the presence of pheomelanin, which can also be found in persons with dark brown or even black hair as well. See "Rameses" below. Albinism is another source of red hair.
Dubious attempts at 'racial analysis' using Nubian hair and crania. Assorted supporters of the stereotypical Aryan 'race' model attempt to use hair to argue for a predominantly 'white' Nubia. But as noted above, such attempts are dubious given built-in African genetic diversity. Often 'racial' hair claims attempt to link on with cranial studies purporting to match ancient Nubians with Swedes, Frenchmen, etc. But such claims are also dubious. In a detailed analysis of the Fordisc computer program used to put forward such claims, Williams, Armelagos, et al. (2005) found that the program created ludicrous "matches" between the ancient Nubian crania and peoples from Hungary, Japan, Easter Island and a host of others in far-flung regions! Their conclusion was that the diversity of human populations in the databank explained such wide ranging matches. Such objective mainstream analyses debunk obsolete and improbable claims of 'racial' migrations of alleged Frenchman, Hungarians, or other whites into ancient Nubia, or equally improbable racial 'percentages' supposedly quantifying such claims. (Frank l'engle Williams, Robert L. Belcher, and George J . Armelagos, "Forensic Misclassification of Ancient Nubian Crania: Implications for Assumptions about Human Variation," Current Anthropology, volume 46 (2005), pages 340-346)
Alleged massive influx of Europeans and Middle Easterners to give the ancient peoples hair variation did not happen. Such variation was already in place as part of Africa' built in genetic and phenotypic diversity. As regards diameter, the average diameter of the Semna sample was close to both the Northwest European and East African samples. This again suggests a range of built-in African indigenous variability, and calls into questions various migration theories to the Nile Valley. One study for example (Keita 2005) tested the model of C. Loring Brace (1993) as to the notion of incoming European migrants replacing indigenous peoples of the Nile Valley. Brace's work had also suggested a relationship between northwest Europeans such as Scandanavians and African peoples of the Horn. Data analysis failed to support this model, instead clustering samples much closer to African series than to Europeans. Keita concluded that similarities between African data in his survey (skulls, etc) and non-Africans was not due to gene flow, but a subset of built-in African variability.
Ancient Egyptians cluster much closer to other Egyptians and Nubians. A later study by Brace, (Brace 2005- The questionable contribution..) groups ancient Egyptian populations like the Naqada closer to Nubians and Somalis than European, Mediterranean or Middle Eastern populations, and places various Nubians samples closer to Tanzanian, Dahomeian, and Congoid data points than to Europeans and Middle easterners. The limb proportion studies of Zakrzewski (2003) (Zakrzewski, S.R. (2003). "Variation in ancient Egyptian stature and body proportions". American Journal of Physical Anthropology 121 (3): 219-229.) showing the tropical body plan of the ancient Egyptians also undercuts theories of inflowing European or near Eastern colonists, or the 'native Europid' model of Strouhal (1971).
The yellowish-red-hair of Rameses: proof of a Nordic Egypt?
Red hair itself is within the range of African diversity or that of dark-skinned peoples. Native black Australoids for example routinely produce blonde hair:
Detailed microscopic analysis during the 1980s (Balout 1985) identified some of the hair of Egyptian Pharoah Rameses II as being a yellowish-red. Such a finding should not be surprising given the wide range of physical variability in Africa, the most genetically diverse region on earth, out of which flowed other population groups. Indeed, blondism and various other hair shades are not unknown in East Africa or Nubia, particularly in children, nor are such hair color variants uncommon in dark-haired or dark skinned populations like the Australians. (Hrdy 1978) Given the range of genetic variability in Africa, a red-haired Rameses is hardly unusual. Rameses' reign, in the 19th Dynasty, came over 1,500 years after the Egyptian state had been established, and after the Hyskos interlude. Such latecomers to Egypt, like the Hyskos, Assyrians, Greeks, Romans, Arabs etc would add their own genetic strands to the nation’s mix. Whatever the blend of genes that occurred with Rameses, his hair offers little supposed "proof" of a "white" or "Nordic" Egypt. If anything, X-rays of the royal mummies from earlier Dynasties by mainstream scientists show that the Egyptians pharaohs and other royals had varied 'Negroid' leanings. See X-Rays of the Royal mummies here, or here.
Pheomelanin and Rameses- found in light and dark-haired populations: The finding of Rameses “red” hair also deserves further scrutiny. The analysis found evidence of dyeing to make the hair yellowish-red, but some elements were untouched by the dye. These elements of yellowish-red hair in Balout’s study, were established on the basis of the presence of pheomelanin, a red-brown polymeric pigment in the skin and hair of humans. However, pheomelanin can also be found in persons with dark brown or even black hair as well, which gives it a reddish hue. Most natural melanins contain sulfur, which is typically associated with pheomelanin. In scientific tests of melanin, black hair contained as much as 5% sulfur, 3% lower than the 8.8% found in Irish red hair, but exceeding the 2.3% found in Scandinavian blond hair. (Jolles, et al. 1996) Thus the yellowish-red hair discovered on Rameses is well within the range of human variation for dark haired people, whatever the exact gene combination that led to the condition.
Rameses hair was not a typical European red, but yellowish-red, within African variation. It was also not ultra straight, further undermining claims of "Nordic" influence. Somalians and Ethiopians are SUB-SAHARANS and they routinely produce straight-haired people without the need for any "race mix" to explain why. The analysis on Rameses also did not show classic "European" red hair but hair of a light red to yellowish tinge. Black haired or dark-skinned populations are quite capable of producing such yellowish-red color variants on their own, as can be seen in today's east and northeast Africa (see child's photo above). Nor is such color variation unusual to Africa. Native dark-skinned populations in Australia, routinely produce people with blond or reddish hair. As noted above, ultra diverse Africa is the original source of such variation.
The analysis also found the hair to be cymotrich or wavy, again a characteristic quite within the range of overall African or Nile valley physical and genetic diversity. A "pure" Nordic type of straight hair was thus not established for Rameses. Hence the notion of white Europeans or red-headed Caucasoids from other areas flowing into ancient Egypt to add hair variation, particularly the early centuries of the dynastic state is unlikely. Such flows may have occurred most heavily in the Greek and Roman era but say nothing about the thousands of years preceding. The presence of pheomelanin conditions or other genetic combinations also explains how the different hair used in Egyptian wigs could vary in color, aside from environmental oxidation, bleaching and dyeing.
Red hair is rare worldwide, and history shows little evidence of Northern Europeans or "Nordics" sweeping into Egypt to give the natives a bit of hair coloring or variation. Most red hair is found in northern and western Europe, especially in the British Isles, and even then it appears in minor frequencies in Europe- some 4% of the population. It is unlikely such populations had any major contact or influence in the ancient Nile Valley. As noted above, red hair is comparatively rare in the world’s populations and pheomelanin conditions are found in dark-haired populations, and thus is well within the range of variation from the Sahara, East Africa and the Nile valley. “White Aryan” theories of Egypt are seen in the works of HFK Gunther (1927), Archibald Sayce (1925) and Raymond Dart (1939), and still find traction on a number of 'Aryan', neo-nazi and "race" websites and blogs which purport to show a "white Nordic Egypt" using Rameses' "red" hair as an example. Today's scientific research however, has debunked these dubious views, showing that red hair, while not common world wide, is a well known variant within human populations, even those with dark hair.
Straight or curly hair is also routine among sub-Saharans like Somalians, who are firmly part of the East African populations. As regards Somalians for example, Somali DNA overwhelmingly links much more heavily with other Africans including Kenyans & Ethiopians (85%), than with Europeans & Middle Easterners. (15%) On Y-chromosome markers (E3b1), Somalis (77%) and other African populations dwarf small European (5.1%) or Middle Eastern (6.3%) frequencies. “The data suggest that the male Somali population is a branch of the East African population..” (Sanchez et al., High frequencies of Y chromosome lineages.. in Somali males (2005)
As one mainstream researcher notes about the dubious value of "racial" hair analysis:
"The reader must assume, as apparently do the authors, that the "coarseness" or "fineness" of hair can readily distinguish races and that hair is dichotomized into these categories. Problematically, however, virtually all who have studied hair morphology in relation to race since the 1920’s to the present have rejected such a characterization .. Hausman, as early as 1925, stated that it is "not possible to identify individuals from samples of their hair, basing identification upon histological similarities in the structure of scales and medullas, since these may differ in hairs from the same head or in different parts of the same hair". Rook (1975) pointed out nearly 50 years later out that "Negroid and Caucasoid hair" are "chemically indistinguishable". --Tom Mieczkowsk, T. (2000). The Further Mismeasure: The Curious Use of Racial Categorizations in the Interpretation of Hair Analyses. Intl J Drug Testing 2000;vol 2
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quote:Originally posted by zarahan- aka Enrique Cardova: ^Tropical africans were "doing hair" including wigs and weaves for thousands of years without the need for any white "role models".
Hair recap
Ancient Egyptian hair
Across the web assorted "biodiversity" proponents, wage a 'racial war' using hair studies of ancient Egyptians to prove a "Caucasian Egypt". But in fact the hair of Africans is highly variable, debunking their simplistic claims.
The hair of Africans is highly variable, ranging from tight curls of South African Bantu, to the loose curls and straight hair of peoples of East and NE Africa, all indigenously evolved over millennia as part of Africa’s high genetic diversity. This diversity undermines and ultimately dismisses simplistic "racial" claims based on hair.
Inconsistencies of the skewed "true negro" model and definitions of African hair
Dubious assertions, double standards and outmoded racial hair claims: Czech anthropologist Strouhal's 1971 study touched on hair, and advanced the most extreme racial definitions, claiming Nubians to be white Europids overrun by later waves of Negroes, and that few Negroes appeared in Egypt until the New Kingdom. Indeed, Strouhal went so far as to argue that 'Negroes' failed to survive long in Egypt, because they were ill-adapted to its arid climate! Tell that to the Saharans, Sudanese and Nubians! Such dubious claims have been thoroughly debunked by modern scholarship, however they continue in various guises by those who attempt to use "hair" to assign race 'percents' and categories to the ancients. Attempts to define racial categories based on the ancient hair rely heavily on extreme definitions, with "Negroids" typically being defined as narrowly as possible. Everything not meeting the extreme "type" is then classified as something else, such as "Caucasian".
Kieta (1990, Studies of Crania from Northern Africa) notes that while many scholars in the field have used an extreme "true negro" definition for African peoples, few have attempted to apply the same model in reverse and define a "true white." Such racial double standards are typical of much scholarship on the ancient Nile Valley peoples. A consistent approach for example would define the straight hair in Strouhal's hair sample as an exclusive Caucasian marker (10 out of 49 or approximately 20%) and make the rest (wavy and curled) hybrid or negro, at >80%. Assorted writers who support the Aryan race percent model however, are careful to avoid such consistency and typically only run the comparison one way.
QUOTE: "Strouhal (1971) microscopically examined some hair which had been preserved on a Badarian skull. The analysis was interpreted as suggesting a stereotypical tropical African-European hybrid (mulatto). However this hair is grossly no different from that of Fulani, some Kanuri, or Somali and does not require a gene flow explanation any more than curly hair in Greece necessarily does. Extremely "wooly" hair is not the only kind native to tropical Africa.." (S. O. Y. Keita. (1993). "Studies and Comments on Ancient Egyptian Biological Relationships," History in Africa 20 (1993) 129-54)
Disturbing attempts to use hair to prove race theories: Fletcher (2002) in Egyptian Hair and Wigs, gives an example of what she calls "disturbing attempts to use hair to prove assumptions of race and gender" involving 1800s European researcher F. Petrie, who sometimes sought to use excavation reports to prove his theories of Aegean settlers flowing into Egypt. Such disturbing attempts continue today in the use of hair for race category or percentage claims involving the ancient peoples, such as the "racial" analysis seen on several Internet blogs and websites, some thinly disguised fronts for neo-nazi groups or sympathizers.
Hair study applied a stereotyped "true negro" model and used late period samples of Egypt, after the coming of Greeks, Hyskos, etc as "representative" excluding the previous 2500 years of ancient civilization. A study of the hair of Egyptian mummies by Czech anthropologists Titlbachova and Titllbach (1977) (reported in Strouhal 1977) using only late period samples found a wide range of hair in mummies. Of the 14 samples, only 4 were from the south of Egypt, and none of the 14 samples were earlier than the 18th Dynasty. Essentially the previous 2,000 years + of Egyptain civilization and peopling are not represented. Only the narrowest definition is used to identify 'true negro' types'. All other intermediate types were deemed 'non-negroid.' If a similar procedure is used in reverse and designates only straight hair as a marker of a European, then only 4 out of 14 or 29% of the samples can be deemed "Caucasoid." Below is a breakdown of the Czech data:
Sample# 5- 18th-21st dynasties- Deir el medina- curly Sample# 8- 21st-25th dynasties- hair looks straight Sample# 11- Late to Greek Period- hair partly wavy Sample# 18- Late period Egypt- hair fine diameter Sample# 19- Greek period- wavy hair Sample# 29- 18-21st Dynasties- Deir El Medina- hair shape unascertainable - south Sample# 31- 18-21st dynasties- Deir El Median- wavy to curly - south Sample# 33- 21st-25th dynasties- appears straight Sample# 34- 21st-25th dynasties- shape difficult to determine Sample# 35- 21st-25th dynasties- wavy shape Sample# 40- 21-25th Dynasties- hair curly, Sample# 44- 21-25th Dynasties- appears straight Sample# 45- 21-25th Dynasties- appears wavy Sample# 46- Kharga Oasis- 4th-5th centuries AD
Using modern technology, the same Aryan Race models are undercut with the data actually showing that Egyptians group closer to Africans than vaunted white Nordics.
[1]"Nordic hair measurements"[/i]
Neo-Nazis and sympathizers tout the work of German researcher Pruner-Bey in the 1800s which derived racial indexes of hair including Negroes, Egyptians and Germans. Germanic hair is closer to that of the Egyptians they assert. But is it as they claim?
(Data of Bruner-Bey 1864- 'On human hair as a race character') - Negroid index: 57.40 - Egyptian index: 69.94 - White Germans: 66.33 Neo-Nazi conclusion: White German Nordics are 'closer' to Egyptians
Modern data using electron microscopes- Conti-Fuhrman & Massa (1972). Massa and Masali (1980)
Compare to Pruner Bey's 1864 data: - Negroid index: 57.40 - Egyptian index: 60.02 (modern electron microscope data) White Germans: 66.33 ______________________________________________________________________________ Conclusion using modern microscope data: Negroes much ‘closer’ to Egyptians than Nordics _____________________________________________________________________________________________________
Using hair for race identification as older research does can be shaky, but even when used, it undercuts ‘Aryan” clams as shown above.
Fletcher 2002 decries “"disturbing attempts to use hair to prove assumptions of race and gender..” Other credible scientists note:
"The reader must assume, as apparently do the authors, that the "coarseness" or "fineness" of hair can readily distinguish races and that hair is dichotomized into these categories. Problematically, however, virtually all who have studied hair morphology in relation to race since the 1920’s to the present have rejected such a characterization .. Hausman, as early as 1925, stated that it is "not possible to identify individuals from samples of their hair, basing identification upon histological similarities in the structure of scales and medullas, since these may differ in hairs from the same head or in different parts of the same hair". Rook (1975) pointed out nearly 50 years later out that "Negroid and Caucasoid hair" are "chemically indistinguishable". --Tom Mieczkowsk, T. (2000). The Further Mismeasure: The Curious Use of Racial Categorizations in the Interpretation of Hair Analyses. Intl J Drug Testing 2000;vol 2
Environmental factors can influence hair color, and the Egyptians routinely placed hair from different sources in mummy wrappings, making claims of "Nordic-haired" or "white" Egyptians dubious.
Mummification practices and dyeing of hair. Hair studies of mummies note that color is often influenced by environmental factors at burial sites. Brothwell and Spearman (1963) point out that reddish-brown ancient color hair is usually the result of partial oxidation of the melanin pigment. Other causes of hair color "blonding" involve bleaching, caused by the alkaline in the mummification process. Color also varies due to the Egyptian practice of dyeing hair with henna. Other samples show individuals lightening the hair using vegetable colorants. Thus variations in hair color among mummies do not necessarily suggest the presence of blond or red-haired Europeans or Near Easterners flitting about Egypt before being mummified, but the influence of environmental factors.
Egyptian practice of putting locks of hair in mummy wrappings. Racial analysis is also made problematic by the Egyptian practice of burying hair, in many "votive or funerary deposits buried separately from the body, a practice found from Predynastic to Roman times despite its frequent omission from excavation reports." (Fletcher 2002) In examining hair samples Fletcher (2004) notes that care is needed to determine what is natural scalp hair, versus hair from a wig, versus hair extensions to natural locks. Tracking the exact source of hair is also critical since the Egyptians were known to have placed locks of hair from different sources among mummy wrappings. (The Search for Nefertiti, By Joann Fletcher, HarperCollins, 2004, p. 93-94, 96)
Egyptians shaved much of their natural hair off and used wigs extensively as covering, obtaining much of the hair for wigs through trade. Discoveries" of "Aryan" or 'Nordic" hair are thus hardly 'proof' of incoming Caucasoids, but may be simply hair purchased from some source and made into a wig. This is much less dramatic than the exciting picture of inflowing 'Aryan' hordes.
The ancient Egyptians shaved off much of their own natural hair as a matter of personal hygiene and custom, and wore wigs in public. According to the Encyclopedia of body adornment (Margo DeMello, 2007, Greenwood Publishing Group, p. 101), "Boys and girls until puberty wore their hair shaved except for a side locl left on the side of their head. Many adults- both men and women- also shaved their hair as a way of coping with heat and lice. However, adults did not go about bald, and instead wore wigs in public and in private.. Wigs were initially worn by the elites, but later worn by women of all classes.."
The widespread use of wigs in ancient Egypt thus complicates and contradicts attempts at 'racial' analysis. Fletcher (2002) shows that many Egyptian wigs have been found with what is defined as straighter 'cynotrichous' hair. This however is hardly a marker of massive European or Near Eastern presence or admixture. Fletcher notes that the Egyptians often eschewed their own personal hair, shaving carefully and using wigs widely. The hair for these wigs was often obtained through trade. Indeed, "hair itself being a valuable commodity ranked alongside gold and incense in account lists from the town of Kahun." Image gallery | Articles | Google
Egyptian trading links with other regions is well known, and a commodity like straighter 'cynotrichous' hair could have been easily obtained via the Sahara, Levant, the Maghreb, Mediterranean contacts, or even the hair of Asiatic war captives or casualties from Egypt's numerous conflicts. There is little need to postulate mass influxes of European admixtures or populations to account for hair types in wigs. The limb proportion studies of the ancient Egyptians showing them to be much more related to tropical types than to Europids, is further demonstration of the fallacy of using hair as 'proof' of a 'Aryan' or predominantly European admixed Egypt.
Nubian wigs and wigs in Egypt
Such exchanges or use of hair appear elsewhere in the Nile valley. Tomb finds show Nubians themselves wearing wigs of straight hair. But one Nubian from the Royal valley, of the 12th century, named Maherpra, was found to be wearing a wig himself, made up of tightly curled 'negroid' hair, on top of his natural covering (Fletcher 2002). The so-called "Nubian wig" also appears in Egyptian art relief's depicting daily life, a stylistic arrangement thought to imitate those found in southern Egypt or Nubia. Such wigs appear to have been popular with both Egyptians and Nubians. Fletcher 2004 notes that the famous queen Nefertiti made frequent use of the Nubian wig: "Nefertiti and her daughter seem to have set a trend for wearing the Nubian wig.. a coiffure first worn by Nubian mercenaries and clearly associated with the military." A detail of a wall scene in Theban tomb TT.55 shows the queen wearing the Nubian wig. Infantrymen from the Nubia. Note both bow and battle-axe carried into combat.
Nubian infantrymen shown with distinctive Nubian wig. From Deir el-Bahri, Temple of Hatshepsut New Kingdom, Eighteenth Dynasty, 1480 B.C.
Hair studies of Nubians show built-in African genetic variability
Hair studies of Nubians have also been undertaken. One study at Semna, in Nubia (Daniel Hrdy 1978- Analysis of Hair Samples of Mummies from Semna South, American Journal of Physical Anthropology, (1978) 49: 277-262), found curling patterns intermediate between Northwest European and African samples. The X-group, especially males, showed more African elements than the Meroitic in the curling variables. Crimping and curvature data patterned in a northwest Europe direction. These data plots however do not necessarily indicate race admixture or percentages, or the presence of European migrants or colonists (see Keita 2005 below), but rather a data pattern of variation in how hair curls, and native African diversity which cases substantial overlap with non-African groups. This is a routine occurrence within human groups.
Africa has the highest phenotypic variation, just as it has the highest geentic variation- accommodating a wide range of features for its peoples without the need for any "race mix: Relethford (2001) shows that ".. methods for estimating regional diversity show sub-Saharan Africa to have the highest levels of phenotypic variation, consistent with many genetic studies." (Relethford, John "Global Analysis of Regional Differences in Craniometric Diversity and Population Substructure". Human Biology - Volume 73, Number 5, October 2001, pp. 629-636) Hanihara 2003 notes that [significant] "..intraregional diversity are present in Subsaharan Africans.." While ancient Egypt had gene flow in various eras, hair variations easily fall under this pattern of built-in, indigenous diversity, as well as the above noted cultural practice of using wigs with hair from different places obtained through trade.
Among Europeans for example, some people have curlier hair and some have straighter hair than others. Various peoples of East and West Africa also have narrow noses, which are different from other peoples elsewhere in Africa, nevertheless they still remain Africans. DNA studies also note greater variation within selected populations that without. Since Africa has the highest genetic diversity in the world, such routine variation in characteristics such as hair need not indicate any racial percentage or admixture, but simply part of the built-in genetic diversity of the ancient peoples on the continent. Indeed, the Semna study author notes that blondism, especially in young children, is common in many dark-haired populations (e.g., Australian, Melanesian), and is still found in some Nubian villages. As regards hair color variation, reddish type hair is associated with the presence of pheomelanin, which can also be found in persons with dark brown or even black hair as well. See "Rameses" below. Albinism is another source of red hair.
Dubious attempts at 'racial analysis' using Nubian hair and crania. Assorted supporters of the stereotypical Aryan 'race' model attempt to use hair to argue for a predominantly 'white' Nubia. But as noted above, such attempts are dubious given built-in African genetic diversity. Often 'racial' hair claims attempt to link on with cranial studies purporting to match ancient Nubians with Swedes, Frenchmen, etc. But such claims are also dubious. In a detailed analysis of the Fordisc computer program used to put forward such claims, Williams, Armelagos, et al. (2005) found that the program created ludicrous "matches" between the ancient Nubian crania and peoples from Hungary, Japan, Easter Island and a host of others in far-flung regions! Their conclusion was that the diversity of human populations in the databank explained such wide ranging matches. Such objective mainstream analyses debunk obsolete and improbable claims of 'racial' migrations of alleged Frenchman, Hungarians, or other whites into ancient Nubia, or equally improbable racial 'percentages' supposedly quantifying such claims. (Frank l'engle Williams, Robert L. Belcher, and George J . Armelagos, "Forensic Misclassification of Ancient Nubian Crania: Implications for Assumptions about Human Variation," Current Anthropology, volume 46 (2005), pages 340-346)
Alleged massive influx of Europeans and Middle Easterners to give the ancient peoples hair variation did not happen. Such variation was already in place as part of Africa' built in genetic and phenotypic diversity. As regards diameter, the average diameter of the Semna sample was close to both the Northwest European and East African samples. This again suggests a range of built-in African indigenous variability, and calls into questions various migration theories to the Nile Valley. One study for example (Keita 2005) tested the model of C. Loring Brace (1993) as to the notion of incoming European migrants replacing indigenous peoples of the Nile Valley. Brace's work had also suggested a relationship between northwest Europeans such as Scandanavians and African peoples of the Horn. Data analysis failed to support this model, instead clustering samples much closer to African series than to Europeans. Keita concluded that similarities between African data in his survey (skulls, etc) and non-Africans was not due to gene flow, but a subset of built-in African variability.
Ancient Egyptians cluster much closer to other Egyptians and Nubians. A later study by Brace, (Brace 2005- The questionable contribution..) groups ancient Egyptian populations like the Naqada closer to Nubians and Somalis than European, Mediterranean or Middle Eastern populations, and places various Nubians samples closer to Tanzanian, Dahomeian, and Congoid data points than to Europeans and Middle easterners. The limb proportion studies of Zakrzewski (2003) (Zakrzewski, S.R. (2003). "Variation in ancient Egyptian stature and body proportions". American Journal of Physical Anthropology 121 (3): 219-229.) showing the tropical body plan of the ancient Egyptians also undercuts theories of inflowing European or near Eastern colonists, or the 'native Europid' model of Strouhal (1971).
The yellowish-red-hair of Rameses: proof of a Nordic Egypt?
Red hair itself is within the range of African diversity or that of dark-skinned peoples. Native black Australoids for example routinely produce blonde hair:
Detailed microscopic analysis during the 1980s (Balout 1985) identified some of the hair of Egyptian Pharoah Rameses II as being a yellowish-red. Such a finding should not be surprising given the wide range of physical variability in Africa, the most genetically diverse region on earth, out of which flowed other population groups. Indeed, blondism and various other hair shades are not unknown in East Africa or Nubia, particularly in children, nor are such hair color variants uncommon in dark-haired or dark skinned populations like the Australians. (Hrdy 1978) Given the range of genetic variability in Africa, a red-haired Rameses is hardly unusual. Rameses' reign, in the 19th Dynasty, came over 1,500 years after the Egyptian state had been established, and after the Hyskos interlude. Such latecomers to Egypt, like the Hyskos, Assyrians, Greeks, Romans, Arabs etc would add their own genetic strands to the nation’s mix. Whatever the blend of genes that occurred with Rameses, his hair offers little supposed "proof" of a "white" or "Nordic" Egypt. If anything, X-rays of the royal mummies from earlier Dynasties by mainstream scientists show that the Egyptians pharaohs and other royals had varied 'Negroid' leanings. See X-Rays of the Royal mummies here, or here.
Pheomelanin and Rameses- found in light and dark-haired populations: The finding of Rameses “red” hair also deserves further scrutiny. The analysis found evidence of dyeing to make the hair yellowish-red, but some elements were untouched by the dye. These elements of yellowish-red hair in Balout’s study, were established on the basis of the presence of pheomelanin, a red-brown polymeric pigment in the skin and hair of humans. However, pheomelanin can also be found in persons with dark brown or even black hair as well, which gives it a reddish hue. Most natural melanins contain sulfur, which is typically associated with pheomelanin. In scientific tests of melanin, black hair contained as much as 5% sulfur, 3% lower than the 8.8% found in Irish red hair, but exceeding the 2.3% found in Scandinavian blond hair. (Jolles, et al. 1996) Thus the yellowish-red hair discovered on Rameses is well within the range of human variation for dark haired people, whatever the exact gene combination that led to the condition.
Rameses hair was not a typical European red, but yellowish-red, within African variation. It was also not ultra straight, further undermining claims of "Nordic" influence. Somalians and Ethiopians are SUB-SAHARANS and they routinely produce straight-haired people without the need for any "race mix" to explain why. The analysis on Rameses also did not show classic "European" red hair but hair of a light red to yellowish tinge. Black haired or dark-skinned populations are quite capable of producing such yellowish-red color variants on their own, as can be seen in today's east and northeast Africa (see child's photo above). Nor is such color variation unusual to Africa. Native dark-skinned populations in Australia, routinely produce people with blond or reddish hair. As noted above, ultra diverse Africa is the original source of such variation.
The analysis also found the hair to be cymotrich or wavy, again a characteristic quite within the range of overall African or Nile valley physical and genetic diversity. A "pure" Nordic type of straight hair was thus not established for Rameses. Hence the notion of white Europeans or red-headed Caucasoids from other areas flowing into ancient Egypt to add hair variation, particularly the early centuries of the dynastic state is unlikely. Such flows may have occurred most heavily in the Greek and Roman era but say nothing about the thousands of years preceding. The presence of pheomelanin conditions or other genetic combinations also explains how the different hair used in Egyptian wigs could vary in color, aside from environmental oxidation, bleaching and dyeing.
Red hair is rare worldwide, and history shows little evidence of Northern Europeans or "Nordics" sweeping into Egypt to give the natives a bit of hair coloring or variation. Most red hair is found in northern and western Europe, especially in the British Isles, and even then it appears in minor frequencies in Europe- some 4% of the population. It is unlikely such populations had any major contact or influence in the ancient Nile Valley. As noted above, red hair is comparatively rare in the world’s populations and pheomelanin conditions are found in dark-haired populations, and thus is well within the range of variation from the Sahara, East Africa and the Nile valley. “White Aryan” theories of Egypt are seen in the works of HFK Gunther (1927), Archibald Sayce (1925) and Raymond Dart (1939), and still find traction on a number of 'Aryan', neo-nazi and "race" websites and blogs which purport to show a "white Nordic Egypt" using Rameses' "red" hair as an example. Today's scientific research however, has debunked these dubious views, showing that red hair, while not common world wide, is a well known variant within human populations, even those with dark hair.
Straight or curly hair is also routine among sub-Saharans like Somalians, who are firmly part of the East African populations. As regards Somalians for example, Somali DNA overwhelmingly links much more heavily with other Africans including Kenyans & Ethiopians (85%), than with Europeans & Middle Easterners. (15%) On Y-chromosome markers (E3b1), Somalis (77%) and other African populations dwarf small European (5.1%) or Middle Eastern (6.3%) frequencies. “The data suggest that the male Somali population is a branch of the East African population..” (Sanchez et al., High frequencies of Y chromosome lineages.. in Somali males (2005)
As one mainstream researcher notes about the dubious value of "racial" hair analysis:
"The reader must assume, as apparently do the authors, that the "coarseness" or "fineness" of hair can readily distinguish races and that hair is dichotomized into these categories. Problematically, however, virtually all who have studied hair morphology in relation to race since the 1920’s to the present have rejected such a characterization .. Hausman, as early as 1925, stated that it is "not possible to identify individuals from samples of their hair, basing identification upon histological similarities in the structure of scales and medullas, since these may differ in hairs from the same head or in different parts of the same hair". Rook (1975) pointed out nearly 50 years later out that "Negroid and Caucasoid hair" are "chemically indistinguishable". --Tom Mieczkowsk, T. (2000). The Further Mismeasure: The Curious Use of Racial Categorizations in the Interpretation of Hair Analyses. Intl J Drug Testing 2000;vol 2
Of course Africans invented all aspects of hair and beauty treatments. But the point remains that the hairstyles popular in America are based on European hair textures and styles. I don't know why on earth some people just are to stubborn to just accept this basic fact. And I just posted good examples of African traditional hair weaving styles, the so called basket weaving style, but this style looks nothing like the hair styles and textures found European dominated American fashion and beauty circles. So just because Africans invented beauty, hair treatment and cosmetics, does not change the curly kinky hair texture of west Africans into the long straight to curly hair of Europeans. African Americans are primarily of West African descent and those people do not have the same straight hair texture of Europeans. Not only that but most African hair styles, even with weaves and wigs, looked more like the ancient Egyptian hair styles, which did not look like the straight white European hairstyles promoted by the modern African American haircare industry, which is not controlled by Africans. Remy Indian hair even says point blank that the hair texture of the weave is "European".
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Now show me in any of the product descriptions for these items where they say AFRICAN DEEP KINKY HAIR WEAVE.... Yeah, they say kinky but they aren't really kinky like an Afro kinky. It is just a play on words because the hair itself still comes from people with straight hair in India and elsewhere in Asia so it isn't kinky to begin with.
These products are made specifically to promote straight hair and straight European hair styles and textures among African American women who do not have such hair texture naturally. And there is no product on the market that offers natural African kinky hair texture weaves. Why? Because America is a racist European dominated society that looks down on African kinky hair texture as being nappy, dirty, stank and filthy and not pretty. Therefore, at no time in American history has natural African hair textures or styles ever been promoted by white European cosmetics and beauty companies. What happened is that black folks decided to stop trying to be their natural selves and just went with the white beauty program. So stop trying to pretend this is some sort of African tradition when it isn't. European dominated fashion and beauty companies don't respect African traditions they hate them and the only reason the industry caters to African Americans is because they are making money. But it isn't in promoting natural African hair it is in promoting white European hair styles and textures.
And you are most certainly kidding yourself if you believe that the ancient Egyptians wore wigs or weaves that looked like that fake hair the big booty model you posted is wearing. It is one thing for black folks like Indians, Pacific Islanders and others to wear such styles, but for West African descended people who are not from the Nile Valley and don't generally have straighter hair to pretend that this is their natural hair texture is absurd and silly.
A blog on the subject, however, just like most people here, she avoids the distinction between the technology of hair weaving and wigs, which is of course African and styles of weaves and hair, which varies from culture to culture and population to population. And it is on the latter topic, styles of hair that I am focusing on. The styles of Hair worn by African Americans are primarily dominated by Europeans. Whether it was the Victorian hair styles of the early 1900s, the flapper hairstyles of the 1920s, the Betty Grable hairstyles of the 1940s or the hairstyles of the 70s, black women have always adopted European styles and designs in America, because that is what the European dominated culture, beauty and fashion industry promotes. Denying this is simply a form of trying to hide from the obvious and has absolutely nothing to do with ancient Africa.
quote: NO! Well it depends. Weaves and wigs are not an invention of contemporary American culture nor of 17th century Europe where men powdered those poodle-looking wigs on their heads. The origin of wigs and weaves date back approximately three thousand years ago to Ancient Africa, particuarly Kemet (Ancient Egypt). Wigs were often used because the Ancient Egyptians shaved their heads to prevent lice. In fact, shaving the heads (particularly among the young) and rocking wigs and extensions is still practiced throughout parts of Africa.
Modern wigs in America do not look like ancient Egyptian wigs. The Egyptian wigs are braided and kinky, like most African wigs and weaves, where European wigs are straight. You can tell the difference a mile away.
But of course, things are not all bad. Straight from the new blog at body image central:
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According to Forbeswoman contributor, Larissa Faw, the "Top 3 No Nos" for Human Resource managers are piercings, foul-smelling breath, and visible tattoos. But don't be fooled ladies. The same HR managers work for companies that have the legal right (in the United States anyway) to create and enforce grooming standards that reflect whatever public image the company wishes to project.
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^SO you would therefore recommend a return to more authentic African hair styles- from the Nile Valley all the way down to Zululand? Such authentic African styles would include weaves, wigs, natural elements to make hair workable into a style (certain oils for example) and use of colorants, depending on the particular culture area. In other words, you would educate people that a weave is not a "European" thing, but old news in Africa? How would u help people make the distinction between the Europeanized styles and authentic African styles?
Across the web assorted "biodiversity" proponents, wage a 'racial war' using hair studies of ancient Egyptians to prove a "Caucasian Egypt". But in fact the hair of Africans is highly variable, debunking their simplistic claims.
The hair of Africans is highly variable, ranging from tight curls of South African Bantu, to the loose curls and straight hair of peoples of East and NE Africa, all indigenously evolved over millennia as part of Africa’s high genetic diversity. This diversity undermines and ultimately dismisses simplistic "racial" claims based on hair.
Inconsistencies of the skewed "true negro" model and definitions of African hair
Dubious assertions, double standards and outmoded racial hair claims: Czech anthropologist Strouhal's 1971 study touched on hair, and advanced the most extreme racial definitions, claiming Nubians to be white Europids overrun by later waves of Negroes, and that few Negroes appeared in Egypt until the New Kingdom. Indeed, Strouhal went so far as to argue that 'Negroes' failed to survive long in Egypt, because they were ill-adapted to its arid climate! Tell that to the Saharans, Sudanese and Nubians! Such dubious claims have been thoroughly debunked by modern scholarship, however they continue in various guises by those who attempt to use "hair" to assign race 'percents' and categories to the ancients. Attempts to define racial categories based on the ancient hair rely heavily on extreme definitions, with "Negroids" typically being defined as narrowly as possible. Everything not meeting the extreme "type" is then classified as something else, such as "Caucasian".
Kieta (1990, Studies of Crania from Northern Africa) notes that while many scholars in the field have used an extreme "true negro" definition for African peoples, few have attempted to apply the same model in reverse and define a "true white." Such racial double standards are typical of much scholarship on the ancient Nile Valley peoples. A consistent approach for example would define the straight hair in Strouhal's hair sample as an exclusive Caucasian marker (10 out of 49 or approximately 20%) and make the rest (wavy and curled) hybrid or negro, at >80%. Assorted writers who support the Aryan race percent model however, are careful to avoid such consistency and typically only run the comparison one way.
QUOTE: "Strouhal (1971) microscopically examined some hair which had been preserved on a Badarian skull. The analysis was interpreted as suggesting a stereotypical tropical African-European hybrid (mulatto). However this hair is grossly no different from that of Fulani, some Kanuri, or Somali and does not require a gene flow explanation any more than curly hair in Greece necessarily does. Extremely "wooly" hair is not the only kind native to tropical Africa.." (S. O. Y. Keita. (1993). "Studies and Comments on Ancient Egyptian Biological Relationships," History in Africa 20 (1993) 129-54)
Disturbing attempts to use hair to prove race theories: Fletcher (2002) in Egyptian Hair and Wigs, gives an example of what she calls "disturbing attempts to use hair to prove assumptions of race and gender" involving 1800s European researcher F. Petrie, who sometimes sought to use excavation reports to prove his theories of Aegean settlers flowing into Egypt. Such disturbing attempts continue today in the use of hair for race category or percentage claims involving the ancient peoples, such as the "racial" analysis seen on several Internet blogs and websites, some thinly disguised fronts for neo-nazi groups or sympathizers.
Hair study applied a stereotyped "true negro" model and used late period samples of Egypt, after the coming of Greeks, Hyskos, etc as "representative" excluding the previous 2500 years of ancient civilization. A study of the hair of Egyptian mummies by Czech anthropologists Titlbachova and Titllbach (1977) (reported in Strouhal 1977) using only late period samples found a wide range of hair in mummies. Of the 14 samples, only 4 were from the south of Egypt, and none of the 14 samples were earlier than the 18th Dynasty. Essentially the previous 2,000 years + of Egyptain civilization and peopling are not represented. Only the narrowest definition is used to identify 'true negro' types'. All other intermediate types were deemed 'non-negroid.' If a similar procedure is used in reverse and designates only straight hair as a marker of a European, then only 4 out of 14 or 29% of the samples can be deemed "Caucasoid." Below is a breakdown of the Czech data:
Sample# 5- 18th-21st dynasties- Deir el medina- curly Sample# 8- 21st-25th dynasties- hair looks straight Sample# 11- Late to Greek Period- hair partly wavy Sample# 18- Late period Egypt- hair fine diameter Sample# 19- Greek period- wavy hair Sample# 29- 18-21st Dynasties- Deir El Medina- hair shape unascertainable - south Sample# 31- 18-21st dynasties- Deir El Median- wavy to curly - south Sample# 33- 21st-25th dynasties- appears straight Sample# 34- 21st-25th dynasties- shape difficult to determine Sample# 35- 21st-25th dynasties- wavy shape Sample# 40- 21-25th Dynasties- hair curly, Sample# 44- 21-25th Dynasties- appears straight Sample# 45- 21-25th Dynasties- appears wavy Sample# 46- Kharga Oasis- 4th-5th centuries AD
Using modern technology, the same Aryan Race models are undercut with the data actually showing that Egyptians group closer to Africans than vaunted white Nordics.
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Neo-Nazis and sympathizers tout the work of German researcher Pruner-Bey in the 1800s which derived racial indexes of hair including Negroes, Egyptians and Germans. Germanic hair is closer to that of the Egyptians they assert. But is it as they claim?
(Data of Bruner-Bey 1864- 'On human hair as a race character') - Negroid index: 57.40 - Egyptian index: 69.94 - White Germans: 66.33 Neo-Nazi conclusion: White German Nordics are 'closer' to Egyptians
Modern data using electron microscopes- Conti-Fuhrman & Massa (1972). Massa and Masali (1980)
Compare to Pruner Bey's 1864 data: - Negroid index: 57.40 - Egyptian index: 60.02 (modern electron microscope data) White Germans: 66.33 ______________________________________________________ ________________________ Conclusion using modern microscope data: Negroes much ‘closer’ to Egyptians than Nordics ______________________________________________________ _______________________________________________
Using hair for race identification as older research does can be shaky, but even when used, it undercuts ‘Aryan” clams as shown above.
Fletcher 2002 decries “"disturbing attempts to use hair to prove assumptions of race and gender..” Other credible scientists note:
"The reader must assume, as apparently do the authors, that the "coarseness" or "fineness" of hair can readily distinguish races and that hair is dichotomized into these categories. Problematically, however, virtually all who have studied hair morphology in relation to race since the 1920’s to the present have rejected such a characterization .. Hausman, as early as 1925, stated that it is "not possible to identify individuals from samples of their hair, basing identification upon histological similarities in the structure of scales and medullas, since these may differ in hairs from the same head or in different parts of the same hair". Rook (1975) pointed out nearly 50 years later out that "Negroid and Caucasoid hair" are "chemically indistinguishable". --Tom Mieczkowsk, T. (2000). The Further Mismeasure: The Curious Use of Racial Categorizations in the Interpretation of Hair Analyses. Intl J Drug Testing 2000;vol 2
Environmental factors can influence hair color, and the Egyptians routinely placed hair from different sources in mummy wrappings, making claims of "Nordic-haired" or "white" Egyptians dubious.
Mummification practices and dyeing of hair. Hair studies of mummies note that color is often influenced by environmental factors at burial sites. Brothwell and Spearman (1963) point out that reddish-brown ancient color hair is usually the result of partial oxidation of the melanin pigment. Other causes of hair color "blonding" involve bleaching, caused by the alkaline in the mummification process. Color also varies due to the Egyptian practice of dyeing hair with henna. Other samples show individuals lightening the hair using vegetable colorants. Thus variations in hair color among mummies do not necessarily suggest the presence of blond or red-haired Europeans or Near Easterners flitting about Egypt before being mummified, but the influence of environmental factors.
Egyptian practice of putting locks of hair in mummy wrappings. Racial analysis is also made problematic by the Egyptian practice of burying hair, in many "votive or funerary deposits buried separately from the body, a practice found from Predynastic to Roman times despite its frequent omission from excavation reports." (Fletcher 2002) In examining hair samples Fletcher (2004) notes that care is needed to determine what is natural scalp hair, versus hair from a wig, versus hair extensions to natural locks. Tracking the exact source of hair is also critical since the Egyptians were known to have placed locks of hair from different sources among mummy wrappings. (The Search for Nefertiti, By Joann Fletcher, HarperCollins, 2004, p. 93-94, 96)
Egyptians shaved much of their natural hair off and used wigs extensively as covering, obtaining much of the hair for wigs through trade. Discoveries" of "Aryan" or 'Nordic" hair are thus hardly 'proof' of incoming Caucasoids, but may be simply hair purchased from some source and made into a wig. This is much less dramatic than the exciting picture of inflowing 'Aryan' hordes.
The ancient Egyptians shaved off much of their own natural hair as a matter of personal hygiene and custom, and wore wigs in public. According to the Encyclopedia of body adornment (Margo DeMello, 2007, Greenwood Publishing Group, p. 101), "Boys and girls until puberty wore their hair shaved except for a side locl left on the side of their head. Many adults- both men and women- also shaved their hair as a way of coping with heat and lice. However, adults did not go about bald, and instead wore wigs in public and in private.. Wigs were initially worn by the elites, but later worn by women of all classes.."
The widespread use of wigs in ancient Egypt thus complicates and contradicts attempts at 'racial' analysis. Fletcher (2002) shows that many Egyptian wigs have been found with what is defined as straighter 'cynotrichous' hair. This however is hardly a marker of massive European or Near Eastern presence or admixture. Fletcher notes that the Egyptians often eschewed their own personal hair, shaving carefully and using wigs widely. The hair for these wigs was often obtained through trade. Indeed, "hair itself being a valuable commodity ranked alongside gold and incense in account lists from the town of Kahun." Image gallery | Articles | Google
Egyptian trading links with other regions is well known, and a commodity like straighter 'cynotrichous' hair could have been easily obtained via the Sahara, Levant, the Maghreb, Mediterranean contacts, or even the hair of Asiatic war captives or casualties from Egypt's numerous conflicts. There is little need to postulate mass influxes of European admixtures or populations to account for hair types in wigs. The limb proportion studies of the ancient Egyptians showing them to be much more related to tropical types than to Europids, is further demonstration of the fallacy of using hair as 'proof' of a 'Aryan' or predominantly European admixed Egypt.
Nubian wigs and wigs in Egypt
Such exchanges or use of hair appear elsewhere in the Nile valley. Tomb finds show Nubians themselves wearing wigs of straight hair. But one Nubian from the Royal valley, of the 12th century, named Maherpra, was found to be wearing a wig himself, made up of tightly curled 'negroid' hair, on top of his natural covering (Fletcher 2002). The so-called "Nubian wig" also appears in Egyptian art relief's depicting daily life, a stylistic arrangement thought to imitate those found in southern Egypt or Nubia. Such wigs appear to have been popular with both Egyptians and Nubians. Fletcher 2004 notes that the famous queen Nefertiti made frequent use of the Nubian wig: "Nefertiti and her daughter seem to have set a trend for wearing the Nubian wig.. a coiffure first worn by Nubian mercenaries and clearly associated with the military." A detail of a wall scene in Theban tomb TT.55 shows the queen wearing the Nubian wig. Infantrymen from the Nubia. Note both bow and battle-axe carried into combat.
Nubian infantrymen shown with distinctive Nubian wig. From Deir el-Bahri, Temple of Hatshepsut New Kingdom, Eighteenth Dynasty, 1480 B.C.
Hair studies of Nubians show built-in African genetic variability
Hair studies of Nubians have also been undertaken. One study at Semna, in Nubia (Daniel Hrdy 1978- Analysis of Hair Samples of Mummies from Semna South, American Journal of Physical Anthropology, (1978) 49: 277-262), found curling patterns intermediate between Northwest European and African samples. The X-group, especially males, showed more African elements than the Meroitic in the curling variables. Crimping and curvature data patterned in a northwest Europe direction. These data plots however do not necessarily indicate race admixture or percentages, or the presence of European migrants or colonists (see Keita 2005 below), but rather a data pattern of variation in how hair curls, and native African diversity which cases substantial overlap with non-African groups. This is a routine occurrence within human groups.
Africa has the highest phenotypic variation, just as it has the highest geentic variation- accommodating a wide range of features for its peoples without the need for any "race mix: Relethford (2001) shows that ".. methods for estimating regional diversity show sub-Saharan Africa to have the highest levels of phenotypic variation, consistent with many genetic studies." (Relethford, John "Global Analysis of Regional Differences in Craniometric Diversity and Population Substructure". Human Biology - Volume 73, Number 5, October 2001, pp. 629-636) Hanihara 2003 notes that [significant] "..intraregional diversity are present in Subsaharan Africans.." While ancient Egypt had gene flow in various eras, hair variations easily fall under this pattern of built-in, indigenous diversity, as well as the above noted cultural practice of using wigs with hair from different places obtained through trade.
Among Europeans for example, some people have curlier hair and some have straighter hair than others. Various peoples of East and West Africa also have narrow noses, which are different from other peoples elsewhere in Africa, nevertheless they still remain Africans. DNA studies also note greater variation within selected populations that without. Since Africa has the highest genetic diversity in the world, such routine variation in characteristics such as hair need not indicate any racial percentage or admixture, but simply part of the built-in genetic diversity of the ancient peoples on the continent. Indeed, the Semna study author notes that blondism, especially in young children, is common in many dark-haired populations (e.g., Australian, Melanesian), and is still found in some Nubian villages. As regards hair color variation, reddish type hair is associated with the presence of pheomelanin, which can also be found in persons with dark brown or even black hair as well. See "Rameses" below. Albinism is another source of red hair.
Dubious attempts at 'racial analysis' using Nubian hair and crania. Assorted supporters of the stereotypical Aryan 'race' model attempt to use hair to argue for a predominantly 'white' Nubia. But as noted above, such attempts are dubious given built-in African genetic diversity. Often 'racial' hair claims attempt to link on with cranial studies purporting to match ancient Nubians with Swedes, Frenchmen, etc. But such claims are also dubious. In a detailed analysis of the Fordisc computer program used to put forward such claims, Williams, Armelagos, et al. (2005) found that the program created ludicrous "matches" between the ancient Nubian crania and peoples from Hungary, Japan, Easter Island and a host of others in far-flung regions! Their conclusion was that the diversity of human populations in the databank explained such wide ranging matches. Such objective mainstream analyses debunk obsolete and improbable claims of 'racial' migrations of alleged Frenchman, Hungarians, or other whites into ancient Nubia, or equally improbable racial 'percentages' supposedly quantifying such claims. (Frank l'engle Williams, Robert L. Belcher, and George J . Armelagos, "Forensic Misclassification of Ancient Nubian Crania: Implications for Assumptions about Human Variation," Current Anthropology, volume 46 (2005), pages 340-346)
Alleged massive influx of Europeans and Middle Easterners to give the ancient peoples hair variation did not happen. Such variation was already in place as part of Africa' built in genetic and phenotypic diversity. As regards diameter, the average diameter of the Semna sample was close to both the Northwest European and East African samples. This again suggests a range of built-in African indigenous variability, and calls into questions various migration theories to the Nile Valley. One study for example (Keita 2005) tested the model of C. Loring Brace (1993) as to the notion of incoming European migrants replacing indigenous peoples of the Nile Valley. Brace's work had also suggested a relationship between northwest Europeans such as Scandanavians and African peoples of the Horn. Data analysis failed to support this model, instead clustering samples much closer to African series than to Europeans. Keita concluded that similarities between African data in his survey (skulls, etc) and non-Africans was not due to gene flow, but a subset of built-in African variability.
Ancient Egyptians cluster much closer to other Egyptians and Nubians. A later study by Brace, (Brace 2005- The questionable contribution..) groups ancient Egyptian populations like the Naqada closer to Nubians and Somalis than European, Mediterranean or Middle Eastern populations, and places various Nubians samples closer to Tanzanian, Dahomeian, and Congoid data points than to Europeans and Middle easterners. The limb proportion studies of Zakrzewski (2003) (Zakrzewski, S.R. (2003). "Variation in ancient Egyptian stature and body proportions". American Journal of Physical Anthropology 121 (3): 219-229.) showing the tropical body plan of the ancient Egyptians also undercuts theories of inflowing European or near Eastern colonists, or the 'native Europid' model of Strouhal (1971).
The yellowish-red-hair of Rameses: proof of a Nordic Egypt?
Red hair itself is within the range of African diversity or that of dark-skinned peoples. Native black Australoids for example routinely produce blonde hair:
Detailed microscopic analysis during the 1980s (Balout 1985) identified some of the hair of Egyptian Pharoah Rameses II as being a yellowish-red. Such a finding should not be surprising given the wide range of physical variability in Africa, the most genetically diverse region on earth, out of which flowed other population groups. Indeed, blondism and various other hair shades are not unknown in East Africa or Nubia, particularly in children, nor are such hair color variants uncommon in dark-haired or dark skinned populations like the Australians. (Hrdy 1978) Given the range of genetic variability in Africa, a red-haired Rameses is hardly unusual. Rameses' reign, in the 19th Dynasty, came over 1,500 years after the Egyptian state had been established, and after the Hyskos interlude. Such latecomers to Egypt, like the Hyskos, Assyrians, Greeks, Romans, Arabs etc would add their own genetic strands to the nation’s mix. Whatever the blend of genes that occurred with Rameses, his hair offers little supposed "proof" of a "white" or "Nordic" Egypt. If anything, X-rays of the royal mummies from earlier Dynasties by mainstream scientists show that the Egyptians pharaohs and other royals had varied 'Negroid' leanings. See X-Rays of the Royal mummies here, or here.
Pheomelanin and Rameses- found in light and dark-haired populations: The finding of Rameses “red” hair also deserves further scrutiny. The analysis found evidence of dyeing to make the hair yellowish-red, but some elements were untouched by the dye. These elements of yellowish-red hair in Balout’s study, were established on the basis of the presence of pheomelanin, a red-brown polymeric pigment in the skin and hair of humans. However, pheomelanin can also be found in persons with dark brown or even black hair as well, which gives it a reddish hue. Most natural melanins contain sulfur, which is typically associated with pheomelanin. In scientific tests of melanin, black hair contained as much as 5% sulfur, 3% lower than the 8.8% found in Irish red hair, but exceeding the 2.3% found in Scandinavian blond hair. (Jolles, et al. 1996) Thus the yellowish-red hair discovered on Rameses is well within the range of human variation for dark haired people, whatever the exact gene combination that led to the condition.
Rameses hair was not a typical European red, but yellowish-red, within African variation. It was also not ultra straight, further undermining claims of "Nordic" influence. Somalians and Ethiopians are SUB-SAHARANS and they routinely produce straight-haired people without the need for any "race mix" to explain why. The analysis on Rameses also did not show classic "European" red hair but hair of a light red to yellowish tinge. Black haired or dark-skinned populations are quite capable of producing such yellowish-red color variants on their own, as can be seen in today's east and northeast Africa (see child's photo above). Nor is such color variation unusual to Africa. Native dark-skinned populations in Australia, routinely produce people with blond or reddish hair. As noted above, ultra diverse Africa is the original source of such variation.
The analysis also found the hair to be cymotrich or wavy, again a characteristic quite within the range of overall African or Nile valley physical and genetic diversity. A "pure" Nordic type of straight hair was thus not established for Rameses. Hence the notion of white Europeans or red-headed Caucasoids from other areas flowing into ancient Egypt to add hair variation, particularly the early centuries of the dynastic state is unlikely. Such flows may have occurred most heavily in the Greek and Roman era but say nothing about the thousands of years preceding. The presence of pheomelanin conditions or other genetic combinations also explains how the different hair used in Egyptian wigs could vary in color, aside from environmental oxidation, bleaching and dyeing.
Red hair is rare worldwide, and history shows little evidence of Northern Europeans or "Nordics" sweeping into Egypt to give the natives a bit of hair coloring or variation. Most red hair is found in northern and western Europe, especially in the British Isles, and even then it appears in minor frequencies in Europe- some 4% of the population. It is unlikely such populations had any major contact or influence in the ancient Nile Valley. As noted above, red hair is comparatively rare in the world’s populations and pheomelanin conditions are found in dark-haired populations, and thus is well within the range of variation from the Sahara, East Africa and the Nile valley. “White Aryan” theories of Egypt are seen in the works of HFK Gunther (1927), Archibald Sayce (1925) and Raymond Dart (1939), and still find traction on a number of 'Aryan', neo-nazi and "race" websites and blogs which purport to show a "white Nordic Egypt" using Rameses' "red" hair as an example. Today's scientific research however, has debunked these dubious views, showing that red hair, while not common world wide, is a well known variant within human populations, even those with dark hair.
Straight or curly hair is also routine among sub-Saharans like Somalians, who are firmly part of the East African populations. As regards Somalians for example, Somali DNA overwhelmingly links much more heavily with other Africans including Kenyans & Ethiopians (85%), than with Europeans & Middle Easterners. (15%) On Y-chromosome markers (E3b1), Somalis (77%) and other African populations dwarf small European (5.1%) or Middle Eastern (6.3%) frequencies. “The data suggest that the male Somali population is a branch of the East African population..” (Sanchez et al., High frequencies of Y chromosome lineages.. in Somali males (2005)
As one mainstream researcher notes about the dubious value of "racial" hair analysis:
"The reader must assume, as apparently do the authors, that the "coarseness" or "fineness" of hair can readily distinguish races and that hair is dichotomized into these categories. Problematically, however, virtually all who have studied hair morphology in relation to race since the 1920’s to the present have rejected such a characterization .. Hausman, as early as 1925, stated that it is "not possible to identify individuals from samples of their hair, basing identification upon histological similarities in the structure of scales and medullas, since these may differ in hairs from the same head or in different parts of the same hair". Rook (1975) pointed out nearly 50 years later out that "Negroid and Caucasoid hair" are "chemically indistinguishable". --Tom Mieczkowsk, T. (2000). The Further Mismeasure: The Curious Use of Racial Categorizations in the Interpretation of Hair Analyses. Intl J Drug Testing 2000;vol 2 [/quote]
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The sad part is that white cultural domination is so pervasive that black women don't even think they are doing anything unusual and swear this is simply themselves being "creative".
Almost all of these hairstyles should be recognizable because you have seen them on black actresses and entertainers over the last 20 years. That is how they promote these styles to the masses not to mention in the salons. But yet you still got black folks swearing this is their own "African" creativity.
http://www.wigs.com/index.php?cPath=70 (most are the same styles sold to white women...) And why on earth are black women in their 20s and 30s wearing wigs and weaves? I mean no other population on earth needs to wear weaves and wigs at that age. The reason is because their hair is so damaged from straightening, weaves and chemicals that it is short and delicate. So they wear weaves and wigs to hide it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_cut French Actress Polaire, born in Algeria with her "black slave": [IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/24/Polaire_with_slave.jpg/800px-Polaire_with_slave.jpg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polaire She was well known for wearing short hair in Europe before it became fashionable.
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With the same amount of media push, these could become the only type of hair women the world over want to have:
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