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quote:
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Originally posted by IronLion:


Do you not know about Elegabalus' Muurish ancestry? Head for your Wikipedia.... or the thread "Were the Romans white?" I am tired of educating you.


yes he was Syrian on his mother's side
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Duncey

And his father? And his grandfather? [Big Grin]

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quote:
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Originally posted by Mike111:
He,he,he:
Surely even your Albino eyes must see that he was NOT Vitellius - Damn fools, can't you see how different the lips are?

Sicko Albinos.

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Mike there is no difference in the lips. blaaaa...blaaaaa.... blaaa..... Wala, a black man

Indeed:

Vitellio Vitellius

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http://copycoins.com/en/77-vitellius-vitelio-caesar-repro-roman-denarius-solid-silver.html

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Skunt, you have been fuched again! [Razz]

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Iron you telling me this is a Moor? Looks like a white boy.
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Vitellio Vitellius

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http://copycoins.com/en/77-vitellius-vitelio-caesar-repro-roman-denarius-solid-silver.html


here is your link:

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1) the coin is a copy

2) a sane person realizes that the person depicted is not a black person or Moor or Muur anyway

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Syrian family.
keep in mind the Syrians weren't and are not Moors you silly man.

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quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
The Albino Mans greatest success - The Obfuscation of History.

THESE ARE ALL SUPPOSED TO BE - "Elagabalus"


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But Blacks are determined and confident, that eventually they will gain access to that which the Albino Man has hidden, and rebuild that which he has destroyed. Truth will reign triumphant!

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Muurz!

Muurish Emperor of Rome, Macrinus:

http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/muurish-emperor-of-rome-the-african-roman-emperor-macrinus/

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Macrinus (Latin: Marcus Opellius Severus Macrinus Augustus;[1] ca. 165 – June 218), was Roman Emperor from 217 to 218. Macrinus was of Berber (Indigenous people of North Africa) descent and the first emperor to become so without membership in the senatorial class.

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quote:
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Blacks are determined and confident, that eventually they will gain access to that which the Albino Man has hidden, and rebuild that which he has destroyed. Truth will reign triumphant!

Your idea is that white people are hiding something that we black folk need access to.

Grow up, this is child-like thinking. White people are not hiding some magical book we need to find. Stop that fairy tale nonsense.

We need to build our own continent, Africa and in the diaspora not think there is some secret mumbo jumbo information that white people are "nor permitting us access to" that will magically transform us into aristocratic assholes.

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quote:
Originally posted by IronLion:
Muurz!

Muurish Emperor of Rome, Macrinus:

http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/muurish-emperor-of-rome-the-african-roman-emperor-macrinus/

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Macrinus (Latin: Marcus Opellius Severus Macrinus Augustus;[1] ca. 165 – June 218), was Roman Emperor from 217 to 218. Macrinus was of Berber (Indigenous people of North Africa) descent and the first emperor to become so without membership in the senatorial class.

Muurz!

Emperor Diadumenian son of Macrinus another Muurish Emperor of Rome...

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quote:
Originally posted by IronLion:
Muurz!

Muurish Emperor of Rome, Macrinus:

http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/muurish-emperor-of-rome-the-african-roman-emperor-macrinus/

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Macrinus (Latin: Marcus Opellius Severus Macrinus Augustus;[1] ca. 165 – June 218), was Roman Emperor from 217 to 218. Macrinus was of Berber (Indigenous people of North Africa) descent and the first emperor to become so without membership in the senatorial class.

If this is what Berbers looked like they didn't look like black Africans and you will find the same is true today in many places in Algeria where Macrinus was born.
Iron why do post stuff like this. The guy is very white looking, you seem to shoot yourself in the foot over and over again.
I suppose he might look like a quadroon or something to some

Maybe you can find a more worn down version of the coin that might come across as "blacker"


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Marcinus

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son, Emperor Diadumenian


Iron I can't believe you would look like a typical Nigerian.
No full blooded Nigerian would try to pass off this stuff as Black Folk.
I suspect you are a mulatto os some sort, correct?

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Muurz!

Pescennius Niger Muurish Emperor of Rome

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http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Pescennius-Emp.jpg

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quote:
Originally posted by IronLion:
Muurz!

Pescennius Niger Muurish Emperor of Rome

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http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Pescennius-Emp.jpg

Pescennius Niger and his stringy-ass beard was a native of central Italy. He was the son of a Roman knight named Annius Fuscus and his wife Lampridia.

Pescennius Niger
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quote:
Originally posted by the lioness:
quote:
Originally posted by IronLion:
Muurz!

Pescennius Niger Muurish Emperor of Rome

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http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Pescennius-Emp.jpg

Pescennius Niger and his stringy-ass beard was a native of central Italy. He was the son of a Roman knight named Annius Fuscus and his wife Lampridia.

Pescennius Niger
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Skunt you are a Dunce, and I fukc you anytime I want.

Compare your nonsense above and below:

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...... Marcinus
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Marcinus


Iron I can't believe you would look like a typical Nigerian.
No full blooded Nigerian would try to pass off this stuff as Black Folk.
I suspect you are a mulatto os some sort, correct?

Make up your mind. Who is that fraud you are putting up, cause he cannot be both Emperors Macrinus and Pescennius. [Big Grin]

Case closed

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Nigerians
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quote:
Originally posted by the lioness:
Nigerians

Skunt, learn to read:

quote:
Meanwhile, Pescennius Niger had been declared the Emperor in the East and he appeared to be making moves to march his army to Rome. A civil war loomed in the horizon.

“Now when the confusion in the state was at its height, inasmuch as it was made known that there were three potential emperors, Septimius Severus, Pescennius Niger, and Clodius Albinus, the Delphic oracle was consulted.

The priest of the Delphic Apollo was asked which of them as emperor would prove of most profit to the state, whereupon, it is said, he gave voice to a Greek verse as follows:

“Best is the Dark One, the African good, but the worst is the Albino (light skin) One.”

And in this response it was clearly understood that Niger was meant by the Dark One, Severus by the African, and Albinus by the Albino or fair skin One.

Thereupon the curiosity of the questioners was further stirred, and they asked of the oracle who would really win the empire. To this the priest replied with further verses as follows:

“Both of the Dark and the Light skin Ones shall the life-blood be shed all untimely;

Empire over the world shall be held by the Muur, the native of Carthage.”

http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/septimius-severus-the-african-muurish-emperor-of-rome-the-greatest-emperor-of-ancient-rome/
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quote:
Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness:
quote:
Originally posted by IronLion:
Muurz!

Pescennius Niger Muurish Emperor of Rome

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http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Pescennius-Emp.jpg

Pescennius Niger and his stringy-ass beard was a native of central Italy. He was the son of a Roman knight named Annius Fuscus and his wife Lampridia.

Pescennius Niger
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Skunt you are a Dunce, and I fukc you anytime I want.

Compare your nonsense above and below:

quote:
Originally posted by the lioness:
quote:



...... Marcinus
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Marcinus


Iron I can't believe you would look like a typical Nigerian.
No full blooded Nigerian would try to pass off this stuff as Black Folk.
I suspect you are a mulatto os some sort, correct?

Make up your mind. Who is that fraud you are putting up, cause he cannot be both Emperors Macrinus and Pescennius. [Big Grin]

Case closed

Do you admit you are confused?

Do you admit you are a fraudster?

I am waiting... [Razz]

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quote:
Originally posted by IronLion:


Case closed

what case is closed, that all people with curly hair are black Africans?
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quote:
Originally posted by IronLion:
quote:
Originally posted by IronLion:
Muurz!

Muurish Emperor of Rome, Macrinus:

http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/muurish-emperor-of-rome-the-african-roman-emperor-macrinus/

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Macrinus (Latin: Marcus Opellius Severus Macrinus Augustus;[1] ca. 165 – June 218), was Roman Emperor from 217 to 218. Macrinus was of Berber (Indigenous people of North Africa) descent and the first emperor to become so without membership in the senatorial class.

Muurz!

Emperor Diadumenian son of Macrinus another Muurish Emperor of Rome...

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Compare with a Cagot [Big Grin]

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The difference is clear....

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quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
The Albino Mans greatest success - The Obfuscation of History.

"Elagabalus"



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... Truth will reign triumphant!

Contrast with the Cagotic grand-daddy of yours:

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Correction:

Macrinus
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also Macrinus
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Iron I can't believe you would look like a typical Nigerian.
No full blooded Nigerian would try to pass off this stuff as Black Folk.
I suspect you are a mulatto of some sort, correct?

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http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Pescennius-Emp.jpg [/qb][/QUOTE]
Pescennius Niger and his stringy-ass beard was a native of central Italy. He was the son of a Roman knight named Annius Fuscus and his wife Lampridia.


Even with the correction it's funny how you keep posting new people, after I demolish each attempt, find one with a bulbous nose and assume it's a black African. The problem is Pescennius Niger was not the Berber Macrinus was, you still lose in your attempt to deny your Africaness

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quote:
Originally posted by the lioness:
Correction:

whine...whine..IronLion fvcked me too hard


Pescennius Niger and his stringy-ass beard was a native of central Italy. He was the son of a Roman knight named Annius Fuscus and his wife Lampridia.


Even with the correction it's funny how you keep posting new people, after I demolish each attempt, find one with a bulbous nose and assume it's a black African. The problem is Pescennius Niger was not the Berber not Macrinus, you still lose in your attempt to deny your Africaness

Fool!

Pescennius Niger was Muur. A dark brown man, or your so-called Black man, Black Roman.

One of the Muurish Rulers of Rome.

His name Niger indicates that he was black of skin and prolly had ancestral origins close to the River Niger, close to Niger, and Nigeria.

Now, you are being fvcked even harder.... [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

Read again:

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Meanwhile, Pescennius Niger had been declared the Emperor in the East and he appeared to be making moves to march his army to Rome. A civil war loomed in the horizon.

“Now when the confusion in the state was at its height, inasmuch as it was made known that there were three potential emperors, Septimius Severus, Pescennius Niger, and Clodius Albinus, the Delphic oracle was consulted.

The priest of the Delphic Apollo was asked which of them as emperor would prove of most profit to the state, whereupon, it is said, he gave voice to a Greek verse as follows:

“Best is the Dark One, the African good, but the worst is the Albino (light skin) One.”

And in this response it was clearly understood that Niger was meant by the Dark One, Severus by the African, and Albinus by the Albino or fair skin One.

Thereupon the curiosity of the questioners was further stirred, and they asked of the oracle who would really win the empire. To this the priest replied with further verses as follows:

“Both of the Dark and the Light skin Ones shall the life-blood be shed all untimely;

Empire over the world shall be held by the Muur, the native of Carthage.”

http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/septimius-severus-the-african-muurish-emperor-of-rome-the-greatest-emperor-of-ancient-rome/


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Muurz! [Razz]

Emperor Constantine the first Christian

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Pescennius Niger:


CASSIUS DIO (AD 150 – 235)
ROMAN HISTORY

on Pescennius Niger:

Severus now made a campaign against Niger. This man was an Italian of the equestrian order, and was remarkable for nothing either good or bad, so that one could neither praise nor censure him very much; and so he had been assigned to Syria by Commodus. 2 He had as one of his lieutenants Aemilianus, since this man, by remaining neutral and watching events in order to take advantage of them, seemed to surpass all the senator of that day in understanding and in experience of affairs (he had been tested in many provinces and as a result had grown conceited), and also because he was a relative of Albinus.

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Albinus was born into an aristocratic family at Hadrumetum in Africa. According to his father, he received the name of Albinus because of the extraordinary whiteness of his body
Hadrumetum (sometimes called Adrametum or Adrametus) was a Phoenician colony that pre-dated Carthage and stood on the site of modern-day Sousse, Tunisia.
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Markie boy White people hating, White people genocidist, history stealing, lying Black racist, mixed bred mutt. Why don't you stop lying and trying to steal other race's history, heritage, identities, homelands. Ignore me all you want mutt boy but it aint gonna make me go away. I'll continue fighting for what is rightfully mine.
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Learning from your posts on the racial composition of ancient Europe and ancient Christianity, I believe there is a link between Muurs and Masons and Muurs are the founders of freemasonry in Europe before it was infiltrated by albinos and repainted with a White Supremacist image.


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http://www.beforebc.de/all_europe/02-16-800-00-73..EnglandsFirstRoyalFamilyWasBlack.html


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quote:
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Pescennius Niger:


CASSIUS DIO (AD 150 – 235)
ROMAN HISTORY

on Pescennius Niger:

Severus now made a campaign against Niger. This man was an Italian of the equestrian order, and was remarkable for nothing either good or bad, so that one could neither praise nor censure him very much; and so he had been assigned to Syria by Commodus. 2 He had as one of his lieutenants Aemilianus, since this man, by remaining neutral and watching events in order to take advantage of them, seemed to surpass all the senator of that day in understanding and in experience of affairs (he had been tested in many provinces and as a result had grown conceited), and also because he was a relative of Albinus.

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Albinus was born into an aristocratic family at Hadrumetum in Africa. According to his father, he received the name of Albinus because of the extraordinary whiteness of his body
Hadrumetum (sometimes called Adrametum or Adrametus) was a Phoenician colony that pre-dated Carthage and stood on the site of modern-day Sousse, Tunisia.
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Duncey

You are a clown! Do you know what "Niger" means in Latin? It means a Muur or a so-called Black man. Now you admit that there were Black Romans after years of denial. [Big Grin]

Albino you know already. Albinus was also an African man.

Yes, there were African Albinos also in Rome. Not Dravidian Albinos and wild men, your ancestors. Dravidian albinos came in later.

As for your images, you have been caught already putting up fraudulent pictures, (and you admitted it) or perhaps displaying your ignorance respecting Roman history.

You lost your credibility years ago on Egypt Search, which is why you stink, and we call you the Skunt.

Did you like what I did to you last night? [Razz]

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Henry the Pious Duke of Saxony and his wife Katherine von Mecklenburg 1514

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quote:
Originally posted by jantavanta:
Learning from your posts on the racial composition of ancient Europe and ancient Christianity, I believe there is a link between Muurs and Masons and Muurs are the founders of freemasonry in Europe before it was infiltrated by albinos and repainted with a White Supremacist image.


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http://www.beforebc.de/all_europe/02-16-800-00-73..EnglandsFirstRoyalFamilyWasBlack.html


Ohhh look another White people hating, White people genocidist, history stealing, lying, Black racist, Black supremacist, or one of the other White people haters has made a second account how cute.
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Ohhh look another White people hating, White people genocidist, history stealing, lying, Black racist, Black supremacist, or one of the other White people haters has made a second account how cute.
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You know dhdoxies,that must be at least the 50th time you've responded with that same mantra. I know its emotionally comforting to believe in it but its as old as disco right now.
Challenge the sources or their interpretation if possible-but wait;you can't do that can you!??

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Yet another White people hating Black racist. only call em like I see em. I have challenged their sources & challenged them to provide unbiased non White people hating, non-black racist, non Black supremacist sources yet they can't do it LOL. Won't be the last time you hear it because I aint going no where & I fully intend to continue calling you and the rest of the Black racist White people haters out for what you are. Whites have a right to our history, our heritage, our identities, our very own homeland.
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quote:
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Blacks are determined and confident, that eventually they will gain access to that which the Albino Man has hidden, and rebuild that which he has destroyed. Truth will reign triumphant!

Your idea is that white people are hiding something that we black folk need access to.

Grow up, this is child-like thinking. White people are not hiding some magical book we need to find. Stop that fairy tale nonsense.

We need to build our own continent, Africa and in the diaspora not think there is some secret mumbo jumbo information that white people are "nor permitting us access to" that will magically transform us into aristocratic assholes.

^That is quite excellent Lioness. The Negroes will surely be moved; As a matter of fact, some "REAL" Negroes have expressed similar sentiments. But then again, that's why I call them Negroes instead of Black people. Negro is my term for dark-skinned people with sh1t for Brains as you know.

And no, the Albinos are not hiding some magical book; what they are hiding, is the thousands of original manuscripts of the ancient Black writers (we need these historical documents to know and understand what really happened in Europe). The original paintings of European rulers, and other such things.

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quote:
Originally posted by IronLion:


You are a clown! Do you know what "Niger" means in Latin?

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Mikey boy White people hating, White people genocidist, lying , history stealing, Black racist, Black supremacist, it just so happens those "Negros" are the normal non-racist, non White people hating more intelligent ones of your race. They are the ones who remind me that even though you and your crew want to hate on Whitey & steal Whitey's history, heritage, identities, homeland, there are those Blacks who unlike you & your ilk are good people.
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quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness:
quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
Blacks are determined and confident, that eventually they will gain access to that which the Albino Man has hidden, and rebuild that which he has destroyed. Truth will reign triumphant!

Your idea is that white people are hiding something that we black folk need access to.

Grow up, this is child-like thinking. White people are not hiding some magical book we need to find. Stop that fairy tale nonsense.

We need to build our own continent, Africa and in the diaspora not think there is some secret mumbo jumbo information that white people are "nor permitting us access to" that will magically transform us into aristocratic assholes.

^That is quite excellent Lioness. The Negroes will surely be moved; As a matter of fact, some "REAL" Negroes have expressed similar sentiments. But then again, that's why I call them Negroes instead of Black people. Negro is my term for dark-skinned people with sh1t for Brains as you know.

And no, the Albinos are not hiding some magical book; what they are hiding, is the thousands of original manuscripts of the ancient Black writers (we need these historical documents to know and understand what really happened in Europe). The original paintings of European rulers, and other such things.

If such documents existed and white people burned them then what are you going to do?
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quote:
Originally posted by kikuyu22:
but its as old as disco right now.

Careful what you say!!!

Disco was the last great Black musical art form.

May Donna rest in peace.

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The Albinos hated Disco because it required them to dance - something that nature gave few of them the ability to do, so they hated it. Their hatred was so great that they even held Disco Burning Parties.


In 1979, another baseball game riot rocked America, but this time fueled by a deep disdain to disco music. The riot in question occurred during a White Sox versus Detroit Tigers match at Comiskey Park. Attempting to cash in on anti-disco hysteria, son of White Sox owner, Mike Veeck, teamed up with popular DJ Steve Dahl for the Disco Demolition Night Promotion. The objective was for fans to turn up to the stadium with disco records, which would be destroyed on the field in the middle of the double-header clash.

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Just look at them!
Pathetic Albino mob, angered because another defect was revealed.

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My fear is that rather than simple hiding relics of Europe's Black past, they may have done that to them.

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quote:
Originally posted by the lioness:
If such documents existed and white people burned them then what are you going to do?

We will do what we are doing now:

Rebuilding history with what we can find.

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Your hatred towards Whites & Anti-White racism is showing again Mikey boy White people hater. Still waiting for that unbiased proof to be posted on my thread.

Give it up already you Black racist, White people hating twit, those people you claim as Black were not Black anyone with good eyes can see that Mikey boy Black racist, White people hater.

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Disco was when producers and DJs took over the music, started to use more synthesizers, simplified the harmony, replaced funk beats with montonous disco beats, adding singers on top such as Donna Summer (yes she was a very good singer)

"Giorgio" Moroder ,an Italian, record producer, songwriter and performer based in Los Angeles. When in Munich in the 1970s, he started his own record label called Oasis Records, which several years later became a subdivision of Casablanca Records. He composed the synthesized music for Donna Summer (including "Love to Love You Baby" and "I Feel Love")

The early disco sound was largely an urban American phenomenon with producers and labels such as SalSoul Records (Ken, Joe and Stanley Cayre), West End Records (Mel Cheren), Casablanca (Neil Bogart), and Prelude (Marvin Schlachter) to name a few.
The disco sound was also shaped by Tom Moulton who wanted to extend the enjoyment of the music—thus creating the extended mix or "remix". This has influenced many other latter genres such as techno, and pop. DJs and remixers would often remix (that is, re-edit) existing songs using reel-to-reel tape machines. Their remixed versions would add in percussion breaks, new sections, and new sounds. Other influential DJs and remixers who helped to establish what became known as the "disco sound" included David Mancuso, Nicky Siano, Shep Pettibone, Larry Levan, Walter Gibbons, and Chicago-based "Godfather of House" Frankie Knuckles.

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^Lioness PLEASE!

According to Albino accounts, Elvis is the king of Rock and Roll.

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Mikey dude giving some one a nick name isn't the same as saying they founded it geez, everyone knows Little Richard was doing RNR before Elvis. They called MJ the King Of Pop does that mean that HE founded Pop music of course not. Free your mind of all that Anti-White hatred Mikey.
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quote:
Originally posted by DHDoxies:
Mikey boy White people hating, White people genocidist, lying , history stealing, Black racist, Black supremacist, it just so happens those "Negros" are the normal non-racist, non White people hating more intelligent ones of your race. They are the ones who remind me that even though you and your crew want to hate on Whitey & steal Whitey's history, heritage, identities, homeland, there are those Blacks who unlike you & your ilk are good people.

Doxie - Like all Albinos, you have every right to love the Negro dearly. As a matter of fact, more than one Albino hide has been saved by a Negro.

The Stono Rebellion - September 9, 1739

The slaves belonging to Thomas Rose successfully hid their master, (They would later be rewarded). One individual, Lieutenant Governor Bull, eluded the rebels (probably aided by a Negro) and rode to spread the alarm.

But certainly Doxie, even you, must see how Black people might not feel quite the same way about them.

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Jantavanta writes: Learning from your posts on the racial composition of ancient Europe and ancient Christianity, I believe there is a link between Muurs and Masons and Muurs are the founders of freemasonry in Europe before it was infiltrated by albinos and repainted with a White Supremacist image.

Marc writes: You might be interested in the following page dealing also with Masonry, then. Those we call the Muurs were also Celts, Gauls, and their numbers were found among the Habsburgs, d' Medici's, etc.


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http://www.beforebc.de/Made.by.Humankind/StyledHair3000BC/03-10-38-10.html

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Markie boy, stupid White people hating, Black racist, Black supremacist, stop lying, the Celts & Gauls were NOT Black people. Stop trying to claim the identities, history, heritage of other people. Whites and every other race have a right to their history, their heritage, their identities, their homeland.
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quote:
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Originally posted by the lioness:
If such documents existed and white people burned them then what are you going to do?

We will do what we are doing now:

Rebuilding history with what we can find.

Mike you have no evidence that there were large numbers of Black people living in Germany since written records began in the region.

Africa and Africans have had an influence on European thought and culture far disproportionate to the size of the small black population (which, for example, approached 150,000 in the Iberian peninsula in the 16th century, and by the 18th amounted to just several thousand in France, a few thousand in the Netherlands, and several hundred scattered through Germany, Scandinavia, and Russia; only in the 20th century would the combined numbers reach the hundreds of thousands)

Allison Blakely, professor of European and comparative history at Howard University, is the author of Blacks in the Dutch World (Indiana University Press, 1994) and Russia and the Negro (Howard University Press, 1986).


Mike you have zero evidence that there were large numbers of blacks living in Europe in medieval times. You simply like the idea and want it to be so.
There were some Blacks in Europe and we can see them in the art. But why assume there were large numbers of them?

It seems like there is a paradigm notion that the Greeks stole their ideas from Egypt belived by some to be comprised of Black people.
Without even getting into that debate, this becomes a theory applied to any situation and people stick to it like religious fanatics. If the Greeks stole from Egypt, then the Europeans stole from Blacks who already had a civilization there.
The problem is there is evidence for an Egyptian civilization but not a Black civilization in Europe or a large population.
Like Marc acknowledged Caesar was white. The people in medieval Europe were fairly primitive until the Romans came in and they were primarily white with a couple of Berbers thrown in, people that were half punic and resembled quadroons or mulattoes and were born in places like Carthage and other places in North Africa that were founded by outsiders.

There is no reason to assume there was a Black civilization or large numbers of Black people living in Europe in the historical period. It is pure wishful thinking.
Either you have evidence or you don't.
Simply posting "Moors" who are shown in some European paintings over and over again doesn't change that. It's just a selective process that teases people to believe in a myth.
Europe existed before the Moors went into Iberia. The Moors were Muslims at the time and the Christian crusadersapprox(1095 and 1291) defeated them and expelled many of them from Spain. Crusader armies also fought the Turks in 1097
Were these Crusaders black? No
So why are we even talking about Saxony hundreds of years later?
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http://www.realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Misc/Crests/History_of_the_Holy_Roman_Empire.htm


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^^^^Here Mike lists some white tribes
last sentence from above:

"Migrating people during this period included the Huns
and the albino Germanic tribes:

•Goths (3rd to the 6th century AD)
•Vandals (invasions-5th century AD)
•Avars (6th century)
•Bulgars (7th century AD)
•Alans
•Suebi
•Frisians
amoung other Germanic and Slavic tribes"


^^^approximate dates of activity added in paenthesis, lioness

The Goths were an East Germanic tribe of Scandinavian origin whose two branches, the Visigoths and the Ostrogoths, played an important role in the fall of the Roman Empire and the emergence of Medieval Europe.
I'm not usre how the Dravidian thing plays into Scandinavian origin of the Goths, Vandals etc but anyway...

Little is known of the origins of the Germanic tribe known as the Vandals. They are believed to have originated in Denmark and later migrated to the valley of the Oder River on the Baltic Sea, about the 5th century BC.
In 406 AD, the Vandals were driven from their homes on the Baltic by the Huns. They headed southwest, crossed the Rhine River and invaded Gaul (now France). The Vandals were finally defeated in battle and in 409 fled to Spain.In 428, the largest ever sea-borne movement of a barbarian peoples resulted in some 80,000 Vandals landing near Tangier. There was little opposition from the locals, and within two years nearly all of North Africa was under their control. With the fall of Carthage in 439, the Vandals controlled a major naval base, which they used to raid all of the cities of the Western Mediterranean. In 455, they thoroughly and mercilessly sacked Rome .
Holy Roman Empire

Comparitively the Holy Roman Empire comes in a few hundred years later, a political entity in western Europe from 800 to 1806.
or if you prefer to go back to Charlemagne, reign 768-814 AD


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Map of the territories (pink) ruled by Theodoric the Great at their height in 523, when he annexed the southern part of the Burgundian kingdom, between the rivers Durance and Isere. Stippled areas indicate other kingdoms dominated by Theodoric at this time.
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Gesta Theodorici aka "Theodoric the Great" (455-526)

Theoderic the Great 454 – August 30, 526) was the white king of

the Ostrogoths (471–526),
ruler of Italy (493–526),
regent of the Visigoths (511–526), and a viceroy of the Eastern Roman Empire.
His Gothic name Žiudareiks translates into "people-king" or "ruler of the people"

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Markie boy, stupid White people hating, Black racist, Black supremacist, stop lying, the Celts & Gauls were NOT Black people. Stop trying to claim the identities, history, heritage of other people. Whites and every other race have a right to their history, their heritage, their identities, their homeland.


Ohhh remember Lioness, the some of the Goths were also Black, or at least their royalty was, well at least that's what Eghead said LOL. I'm still waiting for them to claim the Vandals next ROTFLMBO.

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quote:
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Mike you have no evidence that there were large numbers of Black people living in Germany since written records began in the region.

Allison Blakely, professor of European and comparative history at Howard University, is the author of Blacks in the Dutch World (Indiana University Press, 1994) and Russia and the Negro (Howard University Press, 1986).

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(Please see definition of "Negro" above).

Mike you have zero evidence that there were large numbers of blacks living in Europe in medieval times. You simply like the idea and want it to be so.

He,he,he:

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Mikey boy White people hating, White people genocidist, lying, history stealing, Black racist, Black supremacist scum. Stop trying to claim other people's history, heritage, identities, & homelands. Every race has a right to their history, their heritage, their identities, their very homeland.
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