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Demiana, I just hope your son is already in his teenage years, yes? [Embarrassed]
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quote:
Originally posted by NotSleeplessInCairo:
the woman's nether region

[Big Grin]

Gives a whole new meaning to the Netherlands!

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He is 10 years old but the analytical type and you should see what they pick up from their peers an the tele these days. And yes both he and his sister 'explore' the sexual functions of their bodies, as they have done from an early age, at a childish level. I remember before I could prevent it, that my dh took our daughter to the gp to have him explain what she was doing at one years old rubbing her body against the bed!:-) Dh was convinced she had some sort of infection!:-)

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quote:
Originally posted by MyKingdomForATaba2Koshari:
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Originally posted by NotSleeplessInCairo:
the woman's nether region

[Big Grin]

Gives a whole new meaning to the Netherlands!

LOL!

Lowlands

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quote:
Originally posted by Madame M.:
Then they asked how that happens. I explained. I'd rather I tell them then them hearing it from kids at school. I wish my mother had told me.

I agree Madame, as a parent my self I rather that I tell them instead of them hearing things from kids at school or other places.. They should feel that we are not just their parent but their friend as well.. [Smile]
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quote:
Originally posted by What's In a Name?:
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Originally posted by Egyptian_batman:
they should not knew sex in this age. they should only know the differnce of male and female body anatomically only.

Why not?
Because you may find them having sex with each other. sure They will like the game . Then you will find the girl pregant at the age of nine. They can make make sex with each other.
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quote:
Originally posted by Egyptian_batman:
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Originally posted by What's In a Name?:
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Originally posted by Egyptian_batman:
they should not knew sex in this age. they should only know the differnce of male and female body anatomically only.

Why not?
Because you may find them having sex with each other. sure They will like the game . Then you will find the girl pregant at the age of nine. They can make make sex with each other.
I think ur funnay Batman LOL [Big Grin]
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quote:
Originally posted by cinematic:
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Originally posted by Egyptian_batman:
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Originally posted by What's In a Name?:
quote:
Originally posted by Egyptian_batman:
they should not knew sex in this age. they should only know the differnce of male and female body anatomically only.

Why not?
Because you may find them having sex with each other. sure They will like the game . Then you will find the girl pregant at the age of nine. They can make make sex with each other.
I think ur funnay Batman LOL [Big Grin]
يعني مضحك و لا غريب
funny= weird or ful of fun?

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quote:
Originally posted by Egyptian_batman:
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Originally posted by cinematic:
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Originally posted by Egyptian_batman:
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Originally posted by What's In a Name?:
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Originally posted by Egyptian_batman:
they should not knew sex in this age. they should only know the differnce of male and female body anatomically only.

Why not?
Because you may find them having sex with each other. sure They will like the game . Then you will find the girl pregant at the age of nine. They can make make sex with each other.
I think ur funnay Batman LOL [Big Grin]
يعني مضحك و لا غريب
funny= weird or ful of fun?

Both [Big Grin]
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cinema
my point regarding teaching kids sex, do u agree with it??

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quote:
Originally posted by Egyptian_batman:
cinema
my point regarding teaching kids sex, do u agree with it??

yes there must be sex education in schools actually.... ma3lish ya batman... they have to learn from a trusted reliable source like a parent or in school by a teacher & a text book otherwise they learn all the wrong stuff from their peers or an ignornat maid at home & so on... because they are curious still & whether we teach them or not they'll find out the wrong way & you dont want that to happen
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huh! mashy ya Amoora, ana mish mas2ool 2an illy haye7sal lel awlaad..

Ok! dude, I'm not responsible for what will happen?

teach your 7 yrs old kid the stuff in details, tell him that possitions of sex, how to make it and play him a porno movie.
The next day you will find him either masturbating or making sex with any female he find

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quote:
Originally posted by Egyptian_batman:
huh! mashy ya Amoora, ana mish mas2ool 2an illy haye7sal lel awlaad..

Ok! dude, I'm not responsible for what will happen?

teach your 7 yrs old kid the stuff in details, tell him that possitions of sex, how to make it and play him a porno movie.
The next day you will find him either masturbating or making sex with any female he find

La2 la2 la2 fata7 mo7'ak ma3aya ya 7elw kedo w matdalemhash... nobody said to teach them positions & all that... I m not an expert... but definately the children will get the appropriate info for their age. u know what sex is an instinct & if kids wanna play with one another as young as 4 years old they'll do it whether or not they know about it
Argue ba2a ma3aya

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speak either arabic letter or English please
I don't get the franco arab correctly.

What excactly do u want to teach your children ya 7elwa?

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quote:
Originally posted by Egyptian_batman:
speak either arabic letter or English please
I don't get the franco arab correctly.

What excactly do u want to teach your children ya 7elwa?

ur just too smart... i dont have to explain ya baba
maybe someone over here will be able to explain it better it for u [Wink]
Somebody pls volunteer

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quote:
Originally posted by cinematic:
quote:
Originally posted by Egyptian_batman:
speak either arabic letter or English please
I don't get the franco arab correctly.

What excactly do u want to teach your children ya 7elwa?

ur just too smart... i dont have to explain ya baba
maybe someone over here will be able to explain it better it for u [Wink]
Somebody pls volunteer

طيب يا معلمة يلزمش خدمة مني
okie dockie

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Batman, sex is natural, now we as parents have to teach kids how to act upon their impulses in a good way, that is upbringing. Teach them right from wrong, social behaviour not sextricks. They can find those out themselves.

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quote:
Originally posted by Demiana:
Batman, sex is natural, now we as parents have to teach kids how to act upon their impulses in a good way, that is upbringing. Teach them right from wrong, social behaviour not sextricks. They can find those out themselves.

yes ya Damiana

I meant it in my post but not this isnot called sex education . this is called morals and virtues.

we should give him the point through religion education.

I don't see any religion in that earth who truly care for the children education and the way except Islam.

In chritianity I read lots of lustful stories. In arabic bible specially. they descrtibe breasts of women in a way that turn people hot.

Sorry, but i saw that myself.

It's clear that the olden bible doesnt have thses crap but the modern one has

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Songs of Solomon is about the longing for the beloved and glorifying the 'looks' of the one the author wants. Can't see a problem with that older or new bible.

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songs of solomon??? is that bible or songs?? who's the author?
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quote:
Originally posted by Egyptian_batman:
teach your 7 yrs old kid the stuff in details, tell him that possitions of sex, how to make it and play him a porno movie.
The next day you will find him either masturbating or making sex with any female he find

Interesting what you read into things ...
Nobody in his thread has said you should show children porn or talk to them about positions. [Roll Eyes] Quite the opposite, people mentioned the necessity to educate children about sexuality in an age-appropriate manner.

That's definitely better than not talking about it at all and leaving your kids to develop some strange ideas about sex and men - women relationships. Plus, children / adolescents who are not educated about those issues are more likely to get pregnant involuntarily, for example, than those who have learned about those things.

Your arguments remind me of those who are against educating people about HIV and AIDS because they think this will cause "immoral behaviour".

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And don't get me started on boys as young as nine or ten throwing obscenities at me or trying to physically harass me ... particularly in places like Agouza. This sort of thing does not happen in Europe, and I do think it has to do with not properly teaching kids about sexuality, or rather with leaving them alone to *learn* from the wrong sources.
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very good point, Dalia
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A vital lesson learned by the MEMA kwa Vijana project was that changing the norms and beliefs of adults in the community, particularly among men, increased the effectiveness of youth-targeted, behaviour-change interventions. Programme and policy directions in several countries have been hampered by adult beliefs of what young people should be permitted to know. Many adults, including political leaders, still find it difficult to acknowledge the sexuality of young people, and they fear that sexual education will lead to promiscuity.

However, various global studies have consistently found little evidence that sex education encourages sexual experimentation or increased sexual activity (Cowan, 2002). Successful young people’s AIDS and sexual health education initiatives have worked to allay the fears of adults by taking into account social norms, cultural practices, gender roles and expectations.

http://www.unaids.org/bangkok2004/GAR2004_pdf/Focus_youth_en.pdf


In Egypt a large number of university students are ignorant of what a condom is, let alone how to use it. Statistics show that only 14.3 percent of boys and 5.1 percent of girls between the ages of 16 and 19 know of condoms. In the Mideast, where strong cultural and religious norms discourage premarital sex, this ignorance has not yet caused an explosion in the infection rate.

However, some cultural control over sexuality seems to be slipping. Sex work has been increasing, and a look at infection rates in Iran shows a sharp increase, as do statistics from Libya: 90 percent of reported infections in Libya occurred in the period 2000-2002 (based on 2002 statistics). In Iran, 15 percent of all HIV-AIDS cases were reported in 2003 alone. In Egypt, relatively high levels of sexually transmitted diseases in sex workers and women visiting family planning and antenatal clinics prove that cultural and religious norms are not successfully curbing the spread of diseases. The infection rates in Sudan and Djibouti are already considered to be in the epidemic range.

http://yaleglobal.yale.edu/display.article?id=4948

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quote:
Originally posted by LaZeeZ:
NotsleeplessinCairo, Where have you been ? [Smile]

Hey Lazeez, I was in England with my family for a few weeks and now I'm in Germany. I'm finished with Cairo for now, but still can't resist bobbing ( [Razz] ) into ES... MK's 'Egyptian English' that appears here and there is making me ROFL.. I do miss that from Egypt [Big Grin]
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quote:
Originally posted by NotSleeplessInCairo:
MK's 'Egyptian English' that appears here and there is making me ROFL.. I do miss that from Egypt [Big Grin]

[Big Grin]

"I feel you" baby!

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quote:
Originally posted by MyKingdomForATaba2Koshari:

"I feel you" baby! [/QB]

Shaking that ass.... shaking that ass... [Big Grin]
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^^ er herm... i SEE you baby.. etc etc!!!
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quote:
Originally posted by Charm el Feikh?:
^^ er herm... i SEE you baby.. etc etc!!!

^^ er ehem.. How dumb is your love.. Is your love is your love?
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quote:
Originally posted by NotSleeplessInCairo:
quote:
Originally posted by MyKingdomForATaba2Koshari:

"I feel you" baby!

Shaking that ass.... shaking that ass... [Big Grin] [/QB]
step away now NSIC (sounds like a news channel) because some bloodshed is going to start soon
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quote:
Originally posted by NotSleeplessInCairo:
quote:
Originally posted by LaZeeZ:
NotsleeplessinCairo, Where have you been ? [Smile]

Hey Lazeez, I was in England with my family for a few weeks and now I'm in Germany. I'm finished with Cairo for now, but still can't resist bobbing ( [Razz] ) into ES... MK's 'Egyptian English' that appears here and there is making me ROFL.. I do miss that from Egypt [Big Grin]
Our Egyptian English bas? ya3ny matamarshy feeki el 3aish wel kofta ya shikha? [Smile]
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quote:
Originally posted by Dalia*:
And don't get me started on boys as young as nine or ten throwing obscenities at me or trying to physically harass me ... particularly in places like Agouza. This sort of thing does not happen in Europe, and I do think it has to do with not properly teaching kids about sexuality, or rather with leaving them alone to *learn* from the wrong sources.

Was the problem of little kids saying bad words to girls that big say in the 80s and before?
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quote:
Originally posted by LaZeeZ:
Our Egyptian English bas? ya3ny matamarshy feeki el 3aish wel kofta ya shikha? [Smile]

Of course not just the Egyptian English! But it does tickle me so it does ..... [Razz]

I miss trying to work out the meanings of transliterated Arabic too ... gives me a good old giggle the translations I sometimes come up with

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quote:
Originally posted by Dalia*:
quote:
Originally posted by Egyptian_batman:
teach your 7 yrs old kid the stuff in details, tell him that possitions of sex, how to make it and play him a porno movie.
The next day you will find him either masturbating or making sex with any female he find

Interesting what you read into things ...
Nobody in his thread has said you should show children porn or talk to them about positions. [Roll Eyes] Quite the opposite, people mentioned the necessity to educate children about sexuality in an age-appropriate manner.

That's definitely better than not talking about it at all and leaving your kids to develop some strange ideas about sex and men - women relationships. Plus, children / adolescents who are not educated about those issues are more likely to get pregnant involuntarily, for example, than those who have learned about those things.

Your arguments remind me of those who are against educating people about HIV and AIDS because they think this will cause "immoral behaviour".

ايه يا خالتي الكلام ده

u want to teach kids what ya 7abibity? [Wink]

U want to teach them what?
u want to teach them what?


just tell me in detail,
هتقول لأيبنك ولا بنتك ايه

what will u say to ur daughter or son??

I never have child sex education, I dont think my fala7a mother ( peasant) will care for teaching me. or my father will never teach me.

I duduce it myself by fakaka science
الفكاككة
i dont know how to translate fakaka

children will gain the necessary information from
nature.

Have u received sex education ya dalia ya amorra, [Razz]

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I received sex education in school from age 10, through age 17. It was science-oriented, not about sexual positions. [Eek!] And I didn't engage in any type of sexual behavior for at least a decade after that.

I think children should learn the science of it, and definitely have their parents teach them the moral aspects within the context of their own religious/moral beliefs.

Information is power.

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quote:
Originally posted by What's In a Name?:
I received sex education in school from age 10, through age 17. It was science-oriented, not about sexual positions. [Eek!] And I didn't engage in any type of sexual behavior for at least a decade after that.

I think children should learn the science of it, and definitely have their parents teach them the moral aspects within the context of their own religious/moral beliefs.

Information is power.

yes you couldnt be more right [Wink]
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quote:
Originally posted by What's In a Name?:
I received sex education in school from age 10, through age 17. It was science-oriented, not about sexual positions. [Eek!] And I didn't engage in any type of sexual behavior for at least a decade after that.

I think children should learn the science of it, and definitely have their parents teach them the moral aspects within the context of their own religious/moral beliefs.

Information is power.

احنا كمان خدناه في العلوم في تالتة أول في الاعدادية
we studied this science in school either
but they didnt call sex. they cal science. female genital system structure and male genital system structure but no details about the relations and poitions and stuff like this.

I said in my post, children should know the anatomical view of male and female only. No deep details about sex just a simple headlines

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Ya 3am el khofash ,I mean Batman .. sex education is not bad ... or haram .... my kids ask me all kind of questions out of curiosity and if I do not give them the honest answer I will loose my integrity with them ...

for example: when my son asks me why does not he have a moustache around his penis like I do ...and when I tell him it is not a moustache it is called pubic hair and one day you will have it ..when you grow up and become a teenager.... or when he I see him playing with his penis and I tell him that he has to stop doing this in public and he asks why ..I got to tell him cuz it is his private part and if he touches it, it is not bad or wrong ....and I know it feels good to touch it ...but some things needs to be done in .... and also when we are taking a shower together and when he asks can I touch your penis ...I got to tell him ..penis is your private part and no one is allowed to touch it until you are grown up enough to do that and not feeling guilty or afraid to tell me about it ...and also YOU have your penis and I have my penis and everyone is only allowed to touch his own penis ..... So putting sex education out there in the light for kids is a great idea ..instead of leaving it in the dark and have to deal with it like (BATS) IN THE DARK ....

the questions gets harder because they want to learn ..... sometimes the I wish that the word WHY was never invented because sometimes you can not find an answer to some why questions KIDS ask specially about God and death ...and other issues .....

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There is more to sex in Islam than meets the eye. Do you care to know that sex is the biggest taboo in Islam? It is a topic that is fraught with fear and seldom discussed by the followers of Islam, except when they are in trouble or when they go to a foreign/infidel country to 'enjoy' women there.Islam pretends as if sexual organs do not exist either in a male or in a female. A woman is covered from head to toe just to hide her 'awra,' which is the Islamic vocabulary for the part of body that arouses sexual desire in a man, or the 'shame' of her. Thus, sexual organs are shameful parts of a body! It is a great insult to a woman to depict her entire body as shameful. It is also a great insult to all men.Why? Because, this gives the impression that men are like beasts that are on the street, just on the lookout there for women to prowl on for sex. This is completely nonsense. While living in an infidel country, I have watched millions of kufur women dressed in very decent as well as not so decent dresses.However, never have I seen a single man jump on a woman in the street to copulate with her, despite her mode of dressing being aphrodisiac or in plain word 'sexy.' The Islamic concept of sex is based on Bedouin Arab culture, that is barbaric and uncivilized, to say the least, when compared to today's world.This is because sex is so a 'dirty' word and it is so 'severely' restricted in Islam that as a inquisitive person I became extremely interested in it and devoured any written material that dealt with sex in Islam. To my surprise, I found that so little information is available, although there are tons and tons of books on Tafseer, ahadith Sharia, fiqh and the list goes on for all other branches of Islamic studies. Therefore, I had to write from scratch without much help from Islamic/other sources.Another big surprise for me was that the restrictions on sex for men in Islam are just superficial. There are countless loopholes in Islamic rules, so much so that it is possible for a Muslim man, whether married or not, to have uninterruptible supply of sex if he so desires. But he must know the rules of the game very well, if not, then he may fall into a great torment. There are many secrets and untold provisions for sex in Islam that very few Mullahs will tell.
How pleasant a quilt is in winter? Or a Chinese dish for the test buds? Good poems, songs, arts, or sculptures immensely please a cultured mind.Did you notice that very rarely physical and mental pleasures meet in one single element? Sex, as the climax of this type, always has been one of the strongest driving forces of mankind, especially men. Handling of sex by a society reflects its level and maturity. At times Islamic aspect of human sexuality overlaps with"Status of Women," but the two are not the same. Compared to other social/religious systems of the world, Islam gives sex and sexual "purity" an extraordinary importance with inherent contradictions/conflicts so much so that we may safely say that Islam is over-obsessed, oversensitive and over-apprehensive about sex.
This is an attempt to expose the hypocrisy, double standard, unfairness, absurdity and sheer irrationality of Islam when it comes to sex. It also examines the barbaric rules that Islam inflicts on innocent people for having a simple sexually satisfying relationship whether one is married or not that Islam unjustly and illogically construes as 'haram.'One must not forget however how crucial sex is in our life.In the first place, without sex, none of us will be in this world for sure.Darwinian evolution would have stopped eons ago!So think about it for a moment.
Let us begin with the first principle of Islamic sex for men, that is:

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Tiger man said
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when my son asks me why does not he have a moustache around his penis
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hen we are taking a shower together and when he asks can I touch your penis
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No comment! what's goin o in Egypt nowadays?

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انا خلاص هبطل أجي هنا من الحاجات الي تشيب الي انا بسمعها

خلاص يا جدعان حرمت انا هروح ارجع البلد مع الجواميس أحسن ده عيشة الجواميس أنضف

i'm go back to my country side living with my cows. i wont go to cairo again

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Ya Kafir4ever, XX, Mrs Doubtfire ..or who you are ...I can see from your avatar that you have a covered eye and the other eye is not fully open to see the truth ....

most religions deal with the subject of sexuality the same way .... it is temptation ..that gets the human closer to their animal instincts and being human have way between angels and animals ..religions are supposed to make the man closer to their angelic half .... so you will find no religion deals with the subject of sexual parts different ..... and if you do not like it no one is asking you to buy it .... obviously you have issues with Islam or what is so called Islam now ...but if you study well with the intention of learning you will find so many great things about Islam as well as Christianity or Judaism ..... so Not all Muslims are Mullah .... I think you are the one who needs to know more ....

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quote:
Originally posted by Egyptian_batman:
Tiger man said
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when my son asks me why does not he have a moustache around his penis
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hen we are taking a shower together and when he asks can I touch your penis
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Take a deep breath ..ya 3am el khofash .... and tell the voices in your head it is just an imagination .... sex education is not bad ... kids will ask all sorts of embarrassing questions ...and also tell these voices that when Dads take a shower with their babies it is not 3eeb either ... Kids will look for information and you either provide the knowledge they are looking for or someone else will or they will find it on their own which is a risk when you are a dad ..you are not going to take ...
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quote:
Originally posted by Egyptian_batman:
انا خلاص هبطل أجي هنا من الحاجات الي تشيب الي انا بسمعها

خلاص يا جدعان حرمت انا هروح ارجع البلد مع الجواميس أحسن ده عيشة الجواميس أنضف

i'm go back to my country side living with my cows. i wont go to cairo again

by the way Gamossa is a water buffolo and Cow is bakarah ...FYI

I was honored to be born and raised in the countryside also ..among many other Fala7een too .. [Smile]

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Backside/Anal Sex

I would not hide the fact that one of my favourite pastimes is to read ahadith. I love to read and re-read hadis all of them. The more I read ahadith the more I understand Islam and its Prophet, Muhammad (pbuh).To my mind, ahadith contain the true picture of a good and devout Muslim. When I started reading ahadith, I expected to find only the religious/holy/spiritual/jihadi matters. But I was dumbfounded when I discovered such marvellous erotic contents in these core scriptures of Islam. It will not be wrong to comment that many ahadith can easily pass as manuals of sexual actions, and most importantly, details on dos and don'ts in sex. Some ahadith can even beat the world's first pornography book, Kamasutra, to say the least. Many hadith can easily pass up as sort of 'Sahi Pornography,' a la Bedouin or even better, the Islamic style. Here, I am citing only a few samples. Please spend a few years reading all the six Sahi ahadith. I am sure you will not regret at what you may discover.

Ahadith tells us a great deal about the sexual practices of the Arab Bedouins of those days. We find that the style of copulation between various tribes varied a lot. The manner by which a Jewish man used to have sex with his woman was distinctly different from his counterpart of the Bedouins and also with the city and rural folks. We find that the desert Bedouins were more innovative in their sex positions, styles, etc. The style varied even among the ansars, muhajirins and other Arabs. The Jews were more accustomed to the missionary position while the muhajirins (Meccan Arabs who migrated to Medina) used to have sex with their wives in various positions, the most favourite being the backside style. When these muhajirs started this style with the ansari women, they (the women) were quite displeased and annoyed with them because many of these ruffian muhajirs did not even hesitate to resort to anal sex, because those muhajirs were sex starved as most of them came with their prophet without women and were hungry for sex like wolves. Thus, whenever they had the chance of sleeping with any woman, they would simply ravish her and do despicable sexual acts with them.Soon, this matter reached the ear of Muhammad through many ansari women. Without much delay, a divine decree came down from Allah forbidding those Meccan hungry wolves from doing anal. However, the 'doggy' style was retained, though many ansari women were not that happy with this position. Here are a few hadith that will definitely keep you amused for quite some time, I am sure.

Sunaan Abu Dawud: Book 11, Number 2159:

Narrated Abdullah Ibn Abbas:

Ibn Umar misunderstood (the Qur'anic verse, "So come to your tilth however you will")--may Allah forgive him. The fact is that this clan of the Ansar, who were idolaters, lived in the company of the Jews who were the people of the Book. They (the Ansar) accepted their superiority over themselves in respect of knowledge, and they followed most of their actions. The people of the Book (i.e. the Jews) used to have intercourse with their women on one side alone (i.e. lying on their backs). This was the most concealing position for (the vagina of) the women. This clan of the Ansar adopted this practice from them. But this tribe of the Quraysh used to uncover their women completely, and seek pleasure with them from in front and behind and laying them on their backs.

When the muhajirun (the immigrants) came to Medina, a man married a woman of the Ansar. He began to do the same kind of action with her, but she disliked it, and said to him: We were approached on one side (i.e. lying on the back); do it so, otherwise keep away from me. This matter of theirs spread widely, and it reached the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him).

So Allah, the Exalted, sent down the Qur'anic verse: "Your wives are a tilth to you, so come to your tilth however you will," i.e. from in front, from behind or lying on the back. But this verse meant the place of the delivery of the child, i.e. the vagina.

Sahih Muslim: Book 008, Number 3364:

Jabir (b. Abdullah) (Allah be pleased with him) reported that the Jews used to say that when one comes to one's wife through the vagina, but being on her back, and she becomes pregnant, the child has a squint. So the verse came down:" Your wives are your ti'Ith; go then unto your tilth, as you may desire."

Sahih Muslim: Book 008, Number 3365:

This hadith has been reported on the authority of Jabir through another chain of transmitters, but in the hadith transmitted on the authority of Zuhri there is an addition (of these words):" If he likes he may (have intercourse) being on the back or in front of her, but it should be through one opening (vagina)."

Sahih Bukhari: Volume 6, Book 60, Number 51:

Narrated Jabir:

Jews used to say: "If one has sexual intercourse with his wife from the back, then she will deliver a squint-eyed child." So this Verse was revealed:--

"Your wives are a tilth unto you; so go to your tilth when or how you will." (2.223)

Sunaan Abu Dawud: Book 12, Number 2212:

Narrated Urwah:

Khawlah was the wife of Aws ibn as-Samit; he was a man immensely given to sexual intercourse. When his desire for intercourse was intensified, he made his wife like his mother's back. So Allah, the Exalted, sent down Qur'anic verses relating to expiation for zihar.

Sunaan Abu Dawud: Book 12, Number 2214:

Narrated Ikrimah:

A man made his wife like the back of his mother. He then had intercourse with her before he atoned for it. He came to the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) and informed him of this matter. He asked (him): What moved you to the action you have committed? He replied: I saw the whiteness of her shins in moon light. He said: Keep away from her until you expiate for your deed.

Sunaan Abu Dawud: Book 11, Number 2157:

Narrated AbuHurayrah:

The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: He who has intercourse with his wife through her anus is accursed.

Sunaan Abu Dawud: Book 29, Number 3895:

Narrated AbuHurayrah:

The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: If anyone resorts to a diviner and believes in what he says (according) to the version of Musa), or has intercourse with his wife (according to the agreed version) when she is menstruating, or has intercourse with his wife through her anus, he has nothing to do with what has been sent down to Muhammad (peace_be_upon_him) - according to the version of Musaddad.


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quote:
Originally posted by LaZeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeZ:


I thought we should not lie to little kids but really next time I'm going to tell him Angel Azrael comes at night to hunt little kids who ask those questions or maybe I will suggest him to ask Hasan.

AAAHAHAHA!!! lazeez... its not very often i actually do LAUGH OUT LOUD... but i just did!
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Am I talking to a machine ? did you read my post? Just a question when is the next interval .... as I said no one is asking you to buy it .... I'm sure there are Millions of people who see the greatness in all religions ... by the way this thread is about answering kids questions about Gender ans sexuality issues ...If you have not notice .....

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quote:
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when my son asks me why does not he have a moustache around his penis
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hen we are taking a shower together and when he asks can I touch your penis
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No comment! what's goin o in Egypt nowadays?

I do believe kids get stronger and more respectfull about sex, raised like this.
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Batman,

'I don't see any religion in that earth who truly care for the children education and the way except Islam.

In chritianity I read lots of lustful stories. In arabic bible specially. they descrtibe breasts of women in a way that turn people hot.'

Hadith turns people even hotter! Are we not being hypocritical here?
Volumes and volumes of sex talk! [Roll Eyes]

Tigerman I was making a point.

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The Book of Hosea, or Osee

The Book of prostitution... and the "love of God"



"Yahweh said to Hosea: Go, marry a whore, and get children with a whore, for the country itself has become nothing but a whore by abandoning Yahweh"
(Hosea 1:2).

The Book of Hosea, or Osee, is the first of the twelve minor Prophets. It is the most beautiful Book on the "love of God" in the Old Testament, but I could not understand it, because keeps on talking about whores, harlots, prostitution… until I understood the life of the Prophet himself, in his first three chapters, who then applies it to the people of God, and to you and me:

Hosea, the Prophet, married Gomer and had a child with her. She gave birth to two other children, but Hosea was not their father… however, Hosea took then and care of then as his own children… how great was the love of Hosea!… their names were suggestive: "Lo-ruhamah", "Not-loved", and "Lo-ammi", "Not-my kin".

… Finally, Gomer became a prostitute, after her lovers (2:5), until she eventually become a slave. And now, Hosea learned that his wife Gomer was for sale at an auction of slaves… the attractive young lady of earlier years had become a worn, faded, undesired woman who had aged prematurely… and Hosea bought his own wife at the auction of slaves, the slave Gomer, for 15 shekels (3:2), and brought her home, not as slave, but as his wife, as the lady of the house… the love of Hosea was great, incredible!… even he changed the names of her children of prostitution, to "Ruahmah", "loved", and "Ammi", "My kin"… the incredible love of Hosea!.

Then, Hosea applies the story of his life to the People of God, to the Kingdoms of the North and the South, to Israel and Judah, and to you and me: Every time you and I go after money, or power, or pleasures, we prostitute against God… we throw ourselves into the arms and care of other gods, and that's prostitution against God!… with every sin, we become slaves of the Devil, but God byes us back, not for 15 shekels, but with His own Blood, and brings us back to his home, not as slaves, but as children of God, as His inheritance!… to make a feast for us every time we repent! (Lk.15:22-23)... how incredibly great is the love of God!… and not only once, but again and again, seventy times seven, every time we repent after our sin… our God is the God of Hosea, a Super-Merciful God!… He is always waiting for our repentance, and trust in Him.

The Bible refers often to this "prostitution against God", which is the worse sin in the Bible, worse than drugs, or social injustice, or homosexuality, or homicide... it is the sin we commit most often, and it is the sin that we usually don't confess! (Is.1:21, Jer.2:20, Ex.34:15, Lev.17:7, Dt.31:16)... and every time we sin, "we crucify the Son of God in ourselves, and hold him up to mockery" (Heb.6:6)...

... The Bible insists again and again in the mercy of God, who is always waiting for our repentance, but also in the severe punishments to the People of God and to the persons who do not repent of this prostitution . And it is not enough "to repent" as Judas, but we have "to weep bitterly" for our sins and trust in Jesus, as Peter did. Judas "repented", but his great mistake was not to trust in Jesus, thinking that He could never be forgiven (Mt.26:75, 27:3-5)

The punishment of the Law for a regular prostitute is "to burn her alive" (Lev.21:9, Gen.38:24). Jesus regarded prostitution as evil, but he went against Jewish tradition and laws and forgave prostitutes and opened the way for them to enter God's kingdom through faith (Matt.21:32-33).



MICAH... the prostitution business of the priests

The "prostitution" in the Book of Micah is different that the one in Hosea: The priests in Israel sponsored houses of prostitution where sinners paid high fees for their pleasure. This practice provided the priests with a lavish income. When Micah realized what was being done, his anger knew no limitations. His outspoken remarks were a terrible indictment of the priests and rulers, "So I shall make Samaria a ruin in the open country, a place for planting vines… all her images will be shattered, and all her earnings consumed by fire. I shall leave all her idols derelict, they were amassed out of prostitutes' earnings and prostitutes' earnings once more they will be" (1:6-7). And he continues, "for there is no cure for the wounds that Yahweh inflicts: The blow falls on Judah, on Jerusalem itself" (1:9).

His message was very strong and unacceptable to the religious leaders of the nation… however he was thrilled to describe the matchless mercy of God, announcing the Messiah coming from Bethlehem (5:1), and the statement engraved in bronze across the United Nations Building in New York: "they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks; nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war anymore" (4:3)... and with his words at the end of the Book: "who is a God like you?. You take away guilt, you forgive the sins of the remnant of your people. You do not let your anger rage forever, for to be merciful is your true delight" (7:18)… God is just waiting for you and me to repent, and the most horrible sins will be pardoned, we will be not only cleaned, but received with a feast as children in the house of the Father (Luc.15:22-24).



Judah sleeps with a prostitute?

The sin of prostitution was punished in the Law by "burning the prostitute alive" (Lev.22:9). But Judah had a very strange personal lesson in Gen.38.

Judah, the forth child of Jacob, slept with what he thought was a "prostitute", but in fact, he slept with his daughter-in-law, Tamar, disguised as a prostitute. Tamar became pregnant, and when Judah knew it he ordered to burn her alive (Gen.38:24). But as she was being led off to be burned, she send word to her father-in-law, and sent to him the pledge given to her by the man who slept with her, the seal, cord and staff… and they were those of Judah!, who realized of his sin… all good men in the Old Testament were sinners, just like you and me, but God forgives and forgets, He is just waiting for our repentance. And Judah become one of the ancestors of the Messiah, Jesus Christ. King David, another ancestor of Jesus Christ, sinned like all the kings did, but he cried for his sin like no other king did… and he humbly trusted in the mercy of the Lord like you and I should always do.



Rahab, the prostitute… ancestor of Christ

Joshua 2 tells the story of Rahab the prostitute, who received and hid the two men sent by Moses. By faith she and her family was saved, says Heb.11:31, as described in Joshua 6, and the sign of salvation was the scarlet cord she tied to her window, symbol of the Blood of Christ. She became the grand-grand-mother of David, ancestor of Jesus Christ, as described in the genealogy of Jesus in Matt.1:5.

God loves you and me sinners, and wants to clean all our sins with the Blood of Jesus, and the only condition is the message of every page of the Bible: "Trust in God"… "Faith in Christ", in the New Testament, praise the Lord!.

God loves you and me the way we are right now, but he loves us too much to let us stay that way... and that's why he send us the "trumpets of God", pains, sorrows, difficulties... to purify us!... because in the plan of God, you and I were made to be "saints and immaculate" (Ef.1:4), only the pure and immaculate can enter Heaven!.

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