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quote:
Originally posted by Meskel:

You (Washkar) should be banned for being full of **** with no proof.

No! Let him stay and be used as an example of ignorance the way Evil-Euro was! LOL [Big Grin]

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^^Those are oromos

Actually, the first woman at the top is Afar, the second woman in the middle is Sidama I think even though she is mislabeled as 'Somali', but the third and last woman at the bottom is indeed an Oromo.

And all of three groups of people by the way have nil non-African ancestry. (despite what some foolish people think. [Wink] )

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E3b2 is a mutation of E3b.. i really dont see what your getting at Kawa..considering E3b2 made its split in North East Africa and went North west
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quote:
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That is what I was waiting for. Some loonie that claim I have no proof. [Big Grin]

Read please, that explains the peopling of North Africa. Remember E3b2, not E3b. Read the conclusion in the abstract and the full paper below:

We have typed 275 men from five populations in Algeria, Tunisia, and Egypt with a set of 119 binary markers and 15 microsatellites from the Y chromosome, and we have analyzed the results together with published data from Moroccan populations. North African Y-chromosomal diversity is geographically structured and fits the pattern expected under an isolation-by-distance model. Autocorrelation analyses reveal an east-west cline of genetic variation that extends into the Middle East and is compatible with a hypothesis of demic expansion. This expansion must have involved relatively small numbers of Y chromosomes to account for the reduction in gene diversity towards the West that accompanied the frequency increase of Y haplogroup E3b2, but gene flow must have been maintained to explain the observed pattern of isolation-by-distance. Since the estimates of the times to the most recent common ancestor (TMRCAs) of the most common haplogroups are quite recent, we suggest that the North African pattern of Y-chromosomal variation is largely of Neolithic origin. Thus, we propose that the Neolithic transition in this part of the world was accompanied by demic diffusion of Afro-Asiatic–speaking pastoralists from the Middle East .
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1216069

^^LMAO [Big Grin] Pubmed is even worse than National Geographic!!

E3b2 originated in North Africa, probably East Africa considering its presence there also.

Either way it developed IN Africa as a child of E3b*!!

I suggest you go to Google scholar and look up peer-reviewed articles of science.

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quote:
Originally posted by mali:

E3b2 is a mutation of E3b.. i really dont see what your getting at Kawa..considering E3b2 made its split in North East Africa and went North west

Indeed, it is a child lineage of E3b* and brother clade of E3b1. It's actually extremely rare in West Asia and it's presence there can only be taken as a migration from Africa!

His desperation is so obvious! Kawa has gone loco! LOL

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quote:
Originally posted by Djehuti:
quote:
Originally posted by mali:

E3b2 is a mutation of E3b.. i really dont see what your getting at Kawa..considering E3b2 made its split in North East Africa and went North west

Indeed, it is a child lineage of E3b* and brother clade of E3b1. It's actually extremely rare in West Asia and it's presence there can only be taken as a migration from Africa!
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quote:
Originally posted by Djehuti:
quote:
Originally posted by Meskel:

You (Washkar) should be banned for being full of **** with no proof.

No! Let him stay and be used as an example of ignorance the way Evil-Euro was! LOL [Big Grin]

quote:
Originally posted by Meskel:


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^^Those are oromos

Actually, the first woman at the top is Afar, the second woman in the middle is Sidama I think even though she is mislabeled as 'Somali', but the third and last woman at the bottom is indeed an Oromo.

And all of three groups of people by the way have nil non-African ancestry. (despite what some foolish people think. [Wink] )

Actually wally has mislabeled both the above pictures, the first one i know for sure is somali i've seen it before in some somali websites, and you're right that the second one is not somali and the third one i dont know she's probably oromo as you said, but i've never seen such oromo before, she looks interesting, do you maybe know what Oromo type she is?
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I can't say about the first woman, but the second two women are both Oromo.

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quote:
Originally posted by Djehuti:
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E3b2 originated in North Africa, probably East Africa considering its presence there also.

Really? And the proof! Show it. Otherwise just shut.

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Either way it developed IN Africa as a child of E3b*!!

Really? Is no brainer to know E3b2 comes from E3b. Prove it is "African" though. Prove there was not an West Asian wave across North Africa during Neolithical times. I bet you don't have anything concrete but just rethoric. lol.

Yup! Go for the paper where it said there were not a West Asian wave back to Africa.

KAWASHKAR

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Your slow...E3b orgins web page


Underived E3b1 [note: do not confuse with it's father, E3b] lineage almost solely in East Africa, especially among the Somali. It is essentially not found outside of Africa.
This helps tell us about the origin of E3b1.

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In Northwest Africa ∼75% of the Y lineages are
haplogroup E3b2-M81 (Bosch et al. 2001) although a
much lower frequency of this clade is seen among
the Arabs (32,6 % in Cruciani et al. 2002; 52,3 % in Bosch et al. 2001). E3b2-M81 in North Africa may have arisen near Egypt or Somalia and then spread westwards along the upper boundary of Africa (Sanchez et al. 2003; Arredi et al. 2004; Cruciani et al. 2004; Luis et al. 2004).

Y-chromosome Lineages from Portugal, Madeira
and A¸cores Record Elements of Sephardim
and Berber Ancestry
Rita Gonc¸alves1, Ana Freitas1, Marta Branco1, Alexandra Rosa1,4, Ana T. Fernandes1,
Lev A. Zhivotovsky2, Peter A. Underhill3, Toomas Kivisild4 and Antonio Brehm


My best guess is that hg E-M81 originated
sometiime within Holocene pre-history perhaps
8,000 years ago. NE Africa is a reasonable guess as to its point of origin.


Peter Underhill, personal communication


Now can this guy quit trolling asking for proof tht E3b2[now E3b1e?] is African in origin and *NOT* West Eurasian? Even the source he's quoting as his proof doesn't say that, it states that either it originated in Africa and spread Northwest or either it left Africa via East Africa and returned, but sinced its frequency is low in the Middle East thats the least possible explanation.

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quote:
Originally posted by kawashkar:
[QB]
quote:
Originally posted by Djehuti:
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E3b2 originated in North Africa, probably East Africa considering its presence there also.

Really? And the proof! Show it. Otherwise just shut.
Your ^request for proof has been provided below since you're doing your best to piss people off by denying the obvious, that E3b2 originated in Africa, all you did was post the abstract and not even excerpts from the full study.had you read the full study you would have known that it states E3b2 originated in Africa.
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Since the E3b*-M35 lineages appear to be confined mostly to sub-Saharans, the initial migrations toward North Africa from the south primarily involved derivative E3b-M35 lineages.

These include E3b1-M78, a haplogroup especially common in Ethiopia (23%), and, perhaps, E3b2-M123 (2%), which is present as well (Underhill et al. 2000; Cruciani et al. 2002; Semino et al. 2002).


This proposal is in accordance with a population expansion involving E3b2-M81 believed to have occurred in northwestern Africa 2000 years ago.
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1182266

* E3b*-M35 lineages appear to be confined almost exclusively to the sub-Saharan populations, except for a very low incidence in Egypt (2.7%) and a somewhat larger frequency in Ethiopia (7%, as reported by Underhill et al. [2000]). The highest levels of E3b*-M35 are in Tanzania (37.2%), Kenya (13.8%), and the Khoisans (11% in !Kung and 31% in Khwe).

E3b*-M35 is E3b without mutations.

This is the original haplotype

When they say it is confined to sub-sahara, they actually mean south of the horn Kenya, Tanzania etc. This is not a perfect definition of Sub-Sahara but this is what they mean.

** E3b appears to be confined mostly to the sub-Saharan populations, it is conceivable that the initial migrations toward North Africa from the south primarily involved derivative E3b-M35 lineages.

What They are saying is that E3b, changed in the horn of Africa into E3b1,2 and 3.

These downstream lineages and peoples then spread into North Africa and across the Levant.

*** These include E3b1-M78, a haplogroup especially common in Ethiopia (23%), and, perhaps, E3b2-M123 (2%), which is present as well (Underhill et al. 2000; Cruciani et al. 2002; Semino et al. 2002). The data suggest that two later expansions may have followed: one eastward along the Levantine corridor into the Near East and the other toward northwestern Africa. The extant North African and Middle Eastern distribution (Underhill et al. 2001b; Cruciani et al. 2002; present study) of these lineages suggests that both routes are associated with the dissemination of E3b1-M78. However, the E3b3-M123 chromosomes may have spread predominantly toward the east, whereas E3b2-M81, which is present in relatively high levels in Morocco (33% and 69% in Moroccan Arabs and Moroccan Berbers, respectively [Cruciani et al. 2002]), dispersed mainly to the west.

Cruciani further date the mrca of the E3b2 haplogroup at 5.6 ky, which is similar to its expansion date in Egypt.

However, in NorthWest Africa, Cruciani says:
The coalescence age of the E3b2 bearing chromosomes, estimated from the variation observed at the three microsatellite loci, was only 1,995 years

Coalescence time measures the point of the common ancestor of a group.

The older the coalescence date the longer that population - defined in genetics as a group of interbreeding individuals - has existed.

Cruciani,2002 says this:
Thus, both the age and the high frequency of the M81 haplotypes suggest that a [recent] demographic expansion has occurred in northwestern africa.

And that is why Luis, et. al says:

This proposal is in accordance with a population expansion involving E3b2-M81 believed to have occurred in northwestern Africa 2 ky ago (Cruciani et al. 2002).

The considerably older linear expansion estimate of the Egyptian E3b2-M81 (5.4 ky ago) is also compatible with this scenario.

That is why, they conclude, that the E3b2 lineage:

a) derived from E3b in the horn 5.6ky~
b) the current E3b2 population expanded in Egypt 5.4 ky~
c) the current NW african E3b2 population expanded 2ky~

Also from Goncalves et al.
2005:
"E3b2-M81 in North Africa may have arisen near Egypt or Somalia and then spread westwards along the upper boundary of Africa. This particular haplogroup has been observed at variable frequencies in Iberain populations.

After this Kawashkar you have no excuse to remain ignorant of E3b2.

Peace

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From what I've seen on this thread alone, Kawashkar is a CANCER on EgyptSearch.com
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quote:
Originally posted by kawashkar:

Really? And the proof! Show it. Otherwise just shut.

LMAO [Big Grin] You desperate Chilean pig!
quote:
Originally posted by X-Ras:

In Northwest Africa ∼75% of the Y lineages are
haplogroup E3b2-M81 (Bosch et al. 2001) although a
much lower frequency of this clade is seen among
the Arabs (32,6 % in Cruciani et al. 2002; 52,3 % in Bosch et al. 2001). E3b2-M81 in North Africa may have arisen near Egypt or Somalia and then spread westwards along the upper boundary of Africa (Sanchez et al. 2003; Arredi et al. 2004; Cruciani et al. 2004; Luis et al. 2004).

Y-chromosome Lineages from Portugal, Madeira
and A¸cores Record Elements of Sephardim
and Berber Ancestry
Rita Gonc¸alves1, Ana Freitas1, Marta Branco1, Alexandra Rosa1,4, Ana T. Fernandes1,
Lev A. Zhivotovsky2, Peter A. Underhill3, Toomas Kivisild4 and Antonio Brehm


[i]My best guess is that hg E-M81 originated
sometiime within Holocene pre-history perhaps
8,000 years ago. NE Africa is a reasonable guess as to its point of origin.


Peter Underhill, personal communication


Now can this guy quit trolling asking for proof tht E3b2[now E3b1e?] is African in origin and *NOT* West Eurasian? Even the source he's quoting as his proof doesn't say that, it states that either it originated in Africa and spread Northwest or either it left Africa via East Africa and returned, but sinced its frequency is low in the Middle East thats the least possible explanation.

quote:
kawashkar says:

Really? Is no brainer to know E3b2 comes from E3b. Prove it is "African" though. Prove there was not an West Asian wave across North Africa during Neolithical times. I bet you don't have anything concrete but just rethoric. lol.

Yup! Go for the paper where it said there were not a West Asian wave back to Africa.

quote:
Originally posted by KING:

Since the E3b*-M35 lineages appear to be confined mostly to sub-Saharans, the initial migrations toward North Africa from the south primarily involved derivative E3b-M35 lineages.

These include E3b1-M78, a haplogroup especially common in Ethiopia (23%), and, perhaps, E3b2-M123 (2%), which is present as well (Underhill et al. 2000; Cruciani et al. 2002; Semino et al. 2002).


This proposal is in accordance with a population expansion involving E3b2-M81 believed to have occurred in northwestern Africa 2000 years ago.
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1182266

* E3b*-M35 lineages appear to be confined almost exclusively to the sub-Saharan populations, except for a very low incidence in Egypt (2.7%) and a somewhat larger frequency in Ethiopia (7%, as reported by Underhill et al. [2000]). The highest levels of E3b*-M35 are in Tanzania (37.2%), Kenya (13.8%), and the Khoisans (11% in !Kung and 31% in Khwe).

E3b*-M35 is E3b without mutations.

This is the original haplotype

When they say it is confined to sub-sahara, they actually mean south of the horn Kenya, Tanzania etc. This is not a perfect definition of Sub-Sahara but this is what they mean.

** E3b appears to be confined mostly to the sub-Saharan populations, it is conceivable that the initial migrations toward North Africa from the south primarily involved derivative E3b-M35 lineages.

What They are saying is that E3b, changed in the horn of Africa into E3b1,2 and 3.

These downstream lineages and peoples then spread into North Africa and across the Levant.

*** These include E3b1-M78, a haplogroup especially common in Ethiopia (23%), and, perhaps, E3b2-M123 (2%), which is present as well (Underhill et al. 2000; Cruciani et al. 2002; Semino et al. 2002). The data suggest that two later expansions may have followed: one eastward along the Levantine corridor into the Near East and the other toward northwestern Africa. The extant North African and Middle Eastern distribution (Underhill et al. 2001b; Cruciani et al. 2002; present study) of these lineages suggests that both routes are associated with the dissemination of E3b1-M78. However, the E3b3-M123 chromosomes may have spread predominantly toward the east, whereas E3b2-M81, which is present in relatively high levels in Morocco (33% and 69% in Moroccan Arabs and Moroccan Berbers, respectively [Cruciani et al. 2002]), dispersed mainly to the west.

Cruciani further date the mrca of the E3b2 haplogroup at 5.6 ky, which is similar to its expansion date in Egypt.

However, in NorthWest Africa, Cruciani says:
The coalescence age of the E3b2 bearing chromosomes, estimated from the variation observed at the three microsatellite loci, was only 1,995 years

Coalescence time measures the point of the common ancestor of a group.

The older the coalescence date the longer that population - defined in genetics as a group of interbreeding individuals - has existed.

Cruciani,2002 says this:
Thus, both the age and the high frequency of the M81 haplotypes suggest that a [recent] demographic expansion has occurred in northwestern africa.

And that is why Luis, et. al says:

This proposal is in accordance with a population expansion involving E3b2-M81 believed to have occurred in northwestern Africa 2 ky ago (Cruciani et al. 2002).

The considerably older linear expansion estimate of the Egyptian E3b2-M81 (5.4 ky ago) is also compatible with this scenario.

That is why, they conclude, that the E3b2 lineage:

a) derived from E3b in the horn 5.6ky~
b) the current E3b2 population expanded in Egypt 5.4 ky~
c) the current NW african E3b2 population expanded 2ky~

Also from Goncalves et al.
2005:
"E3b2-M81 in North Africa may have arisen near Egypt or Somalia and then spread westwards along the upper boundary of Africa. This particular haplogroup has been observed at variable frequencies in Iberain populations.

After this Kawashkar you have no excuse to remain ignorant of E3b2.

Peace

ROTFLF [Big Grin]

Now, watch the Chilean pig squeal!

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^^ Chilean pig LOL!!! [Big Grin]

I can just picture Kawashkar on a kkk spitroast [Big Grin] I bet he'll admit to being black then! [Big Grin]

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quote:
Originally posted by Djehuti:
quote:
Originally posted by Meskel:

You (Washkar) should be banned for being full of **** with no proof.

No! Let him stay and be used as an example of ignorance the way Evil-Euro was! LOL [Big Grin]

quote:
Originally posted by Meskel:


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^^Those are oromos

Actually, the first woman at the top is Afar, the second woman in the middle is Sidama I think even though she is mislabeled as 'Somali', but the third and last woman at the bottom is indeed an Oromo.

And all of three groups of people by the way have nil non-African ancestry. (despite what some foolish people think. [Wink] )

the problem is u do not under stand . saying groups like somalis have nil-non african ancestry is really stupid . a test which we do not know which ethnic somalis and which part of somalia the people examined come from showed 15 percent foreign lineages amagine if it was done on somalis from all around somalia i think it would have even showed more . i am just saying it would have been much better for them to provide much information.
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quote:
originally posted by Washed-up Mestizo:

Yuya
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I don't know much about studies on Yuya's mummy, but this is his daughter..

Queen Tiye
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quote:
Ramses
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Ramessia when he was alive
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By the way, Mummies as shrivelled up corpses and altered hairs should don't always closely resemble the way they looked when they were alive.

quote:
Nefertiti
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Another portrayal of Nefertitit
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An unbias reconstruction of her alleged mummy
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the rest to come...

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quote:
Tut
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^Yes, the reconstruction created by a bias French team.

Here is an earlier reconstruction created by a double-blinded unbias American team who did not know the idenity of the skull

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And here is a bust made when he was alive
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Ranofer (priest)
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^His features are not atypical of many Northeast Africans and certainly the whithered paint does not mean he was that light of skin.

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That's amazing. Egypt of ancient times was plenty of non-"African" people, like is today.
Nope. What's really amazing is how dense you are! LOL

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Egyptian students:
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^Correction, Arab Egyptian students.

Here are rural non-Arab Egyptian school students
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And who don't look "African", like this warrior:
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Of course not but the ancient Egyptian warriors sure do-- spears and shields and all!! LOL

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quote:
Originally posted by salah:

the problem is u do not under stand . saying groups like somalis have nil-non african ancestry is really stupid . a test which we do not know which ethnic somalis and which part of somalia the people examined come from showed 15 percent foreign lineages amagine if it was done on somalis from all around somalia i think it would have even showed more . i am just saying it would have been much better for them to provide much information.

[Embarrassed] No, the problem is that you have mixed-up issues just like karwash and 1ARM!

[Mad] Get over it!

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tut look typical of an afroasian person.

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^^Afroasian is a language group, my mixed-up friend. Afro-asian people can range from black West African Hausa to light-skinned Saudi Arabs to white and blonde Kabyle Berbers. [Roll Eyes]
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quote:
Originally posted by Djehuti:
quote:
Originally posted by salah:

the problem is u do not under stand . saying groups like somalis have nil-non african ancestry is really stupid . a test which we do not know which ethnic somalis and which part of somalia the people examined come from showed 15 percent foreign lineages amagine if it was done on somalis from all around somalia i think it would have even showed more . i am just saying it would have been much better for them to provide much information.

[Embarrassed] No, the problem is that you have mixed-up issues just like karwash and 1ARM!

[Mad] Get over it!

dude i am just saying it would have been much much better if they provided much information like which part of somalis they come from . we cannot just assume 15 percent of somalis have foriegn forefathers. that is just a prediction.
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^^ [Embarrassed] Why not go and pollute, I mean talk more about it back in the E3b thread here.
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I wonder where Washkar is. I hope he isn't having a nervous breakdown from all this.
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Yeah, I wonder where is he at, I guess his little ruse is up.
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quote:
Originally posted by Djehuti:
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Originally posted by Meskel:

You (Washkar) should be banned for being full of **** with no proof.

No! Let him stay and be used as an example of ignorance the way Evil-Euro was! LOL [Big Grin]

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^^Those are oromos

Actually, the first woman at the top is Afar, the second woman in the middle is Sidama I think even though she is mislabeled as 'Somali', but the third and last woman at the bottom is indeed an Oromo.

And all of three groups of people by the way have nil non-African ancestry. (despite what some foolish people think. [Wink] )

Those people are just biased.
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No one said that Ancient Egyptians were notblack, but they were not a pure black race. In fact Egypt was never pure indigneous African race.

People left Africa around 60000(saome say 150 thousand) years ago and came back through Egypt during the ice age 20thousand-5000 years ago. This created the ancient Egyptians, the Nubians, abyssinians, berbers etc., well the berber was a result of the Moroco - spain other door into and out of Africa.

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^^typical cry of the INVADER caught red-handed in Egypt [Big Grin]
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quote:
Originally posted by AMR1:
No one said that Ancient Egyptians were notblack], but they were not a pure black race.In
fact Egypt was never
pure indigneous African race.
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THE FIRST EGYPTIANS WERE UNMIXED BLACKS,LATER most of the blacks of upper egypt were unmixed blacks,and some were elsewhere too in egypt in ancient times.as time went on until medievel times than you could say many egyptians had some form of mixture.

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People left Africa around 60000(saome say 150 thousand) years ago and came back through Egypt during the ice age 20thousand-5000 years ago. This created the ancient Egyptians, the Nubians, abyssinians, berbers etc., well the berber was a result of the Moroco - spain other door into and out of Africa. [/QB]

wrong.

some people left africa,most stayed in africa.you got it wrong.only a few came to africa later but they never created these groups you mention above.
you comments are just incorrect,AND first COMMENTS YOU MADE WAY above as well.

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quote:
Originally posted by Djehuti:
^^ [Embarrassed] Why not go and pollute, I mean talk more about it back in the E3b thread here.

dude thats not an answer . the thing is u could not answer it . just admit it.
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Somalians may well have been originally Arabs. The thing is, they kinda behave like Arabs...

The behavioural characteristics of Somalians are quite different/distinct from other Africans around them. You know?

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I love this forum because as knowledge comes to light, people can no longer rely on past bias information about Egypt.

The eurocentric view is "supported by monumental political, financial, and military power which have benefited from its application."
18th and 19th century politics aside, there is finally room to dig into the truth.

The view that 'all that is great cannot be Black', is crumbling.

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Does anyone actually care if Somalians are Arabs or not?

Stick to the script (Kemet [Smile] )

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quote:
Originally posted by salah:
quote:
Originally posted by Djehuti:
^^ [Embarrassed] Why not go and pollute, I mean talk more about it back in the E3b thread here.

dude thats not an answer . the thing is u could not answer it . just admit it.
Hey Djehuti please tell her that she's right, she will never leave you alone otherwise trust me, unless you want to be stalked the rest of your time in this forum [Big Grin]
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quote:
Originally posted by Yonis:
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Originally posted by salah:
quote:
Originally posted by Djehuti:
^^ [Embarrassed] Why not go and pollute, I mean talk more about it back in the E3b thread here.

dude thats not an answer . the thing is u could not answer it . just admit it.
Hey Djehuti please tell her that she's right, she will never leave you alone otherwise trust me, unless you want to be stalked the rest of your time in this forum [Big Grin]
dude,nacaas baa tahay . somali baan ahay nacasyahow inta balaa kaley lasocoto. dude somali noqoo . the thing is a test which was done on some ethnic somalies who we do not even know which part of somalia they come from cannot reprsent all somalis . it's not disagreement or agreement ,it's just that ethnic somalis are all not one group .
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quote:
The behavioural characteristics of Somalians are quite different/distinct from other Africans around them. You know?
And how are other aAfricans behaviour/characteritics similar??

btw its called somalis not "somalians"

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Does anyone actually care if Somalians are Arabs or not?

Stick to the script (Kemet )

First time i agree with you!
But your posts are still annoying and childish, mr hip hop/jay z [Big Grin]
This is Egyptsearch
just Ignore salah, she has her own personal issues.

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Kawashkar is probably having nightmares about the countless times he has been made to look like a fish out of water.

As for AMR1, I actually feel sorry for him. He is so confused

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quote:
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^Yes, the reconstruction created by a bias French team.

Here is an earlier reconstruction created by a double-blinded unbias American team who did not know the idenity of the skull

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And here is a bust made when he was alive
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Ranofer (priest)
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^His features are not atypical of many Northeast Africans and certainly the whithered paint does not mean he was that light of skin.

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That's amazing. Egypt of ancient times was plenty of non-"African" people, like is today.
Nope. What's really amazing is how dense you are! LOL

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Egyptian students:
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^Correction, Arab Egyptian students.

Here are rural non-Arab Egyptian school students
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Of course not but the ancient Egyptian warriors sure do-- spears and shields and all!! LOL

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Jehuti,

You are the man! I love the picutre of the African warrior, along with the comparison with the ancient African warriors(Ancient Egyptian). Same shield, spears, race and all.....lol. Salaam.

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quote:
Originally posted by Yonis:
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The behavioural characteristics of Somalians are quite different/distinct from other Africans around them. You know?
And how are other aAfricans behaviour/characteritics similar??

btw its called somalis not "somalians"

quote:
Does anyone actually care if Somalians are Arabs or not?

Stick to the script (Kemet )

First time i agree with you!
But your posts are still annoying and childish, mr hip hop/jay z [Big Grin]
This is Egyptsearch
just Ignore salah, she has her own personal issues.

I think this chick likes me [Big Grin]

She reminds of an Ethiopian bird I know, who hates me but keeps hopping on my ***** [Big Grin]

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^^look at the faggot talking,¨
Typical behaviour, no decency at all, the only mentality functioning is talking about sex, even directed to men. LOl@Ethiopian bird "who I thought liked me" sexual frustrated loser, go out and find you self a fufu lady instead [Big Grin]

Your a perfect example of how a "dumb, promiscous negro" is suppose to behave.

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quote:
No one said that Ancient Egyptians were not black
Really? No one. Ok, then we all agree that the Ancient Egyptians were Black. Excellent. [Smile]


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but they were not a pure black race.
There are no pure races.

If you disagree, don't write back jibberish, simply list the pure races and people who belong to them.

If you can't answer then the 'debate' [Roll Eyes] is over.

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quote:
Originally posted by SEEKING:
Kawashkar is probably having nightmares about the countless times he has been made to look like a fish out of water.

As for AMR1, I actually feel sorry for him. He is so confused

I am not confussed. I know what and I am and what you are. It is just difficult to convince you that you are behaving like a clown. lol

KAWASHKAR

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Pretty flexible definition of "Black Race" you have. Yes, you can adjust it to any situation. And claimming Egypt for Black Africa in the meantime, of course.


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^^Mr. Washkar, where do you put the Greeks.

Blacks West-africans are there closest relatives. I'm not talking about anything black or I'd include some Indians (India).

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quote:
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Pretty flexible definition of "Black Race" you have. Yes, you can adjust it to any situation. And claimming Egypt for Black Africa in the meantime, of course.


KAWASHKAR

I don't know the science that you guys are discussing back and forth, but going by the images of human diversity I've seen posted on here of present day African populations, I would agree with you that the "Black Race" is very much a flexible definition. That's what so many people seem to be unaware of or simply try to supress. "Blacks" are an incredibly diverse "race". Going by the images and statues of Ancient Egypt, I also have to conclude it was a Black majority civilization.
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