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^ This is what I hate about threads such as these is that not only has the topic been discussed innumerable times before, but even when actual evidence or proof is presented, the naysayers still doubt and cling to their debunked beliefs.
Well I say let them cling on. Who cares what they believe despite of what is.
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Eurasia = Europe + Asia. Europe is west of Asia. Hence, Western Eurasia = Europe (not the Levant).
quote:Originally posted by osirion:
quote:Originally posted by Charlie Bass:
quote:Originally posted by osirion: Still you guys seem to avoid mtDNA and discussion about non-African mtDNA.
Why is that?
What about the mtDNA? No study published links any Fulani mtDNA with Jews you moron.
The haplogroups of Western Eurasian origin, such as J1b, U5, H, and V, were also detected but in rather low frequencies (8.1% in total).
Jews defined as a ethnic group rather than as a religion poses some issues but in general if we consider the origins of the Jewish faith then we essentially have Semitic speaking people of the Levant. These are Western Eurasian people. So if you are looking for Jewish origins of a people you would look for genetic material having a Western Eurasian signature.
Afro-Nuts are always looking at Y-chromosomes primarily because they come from societies that are patrilineal.
Explain the mtDNA that could possibly indicate a Jewish link! Explain how it got there - in sub-Saharan Africa.
Almost 10%. Isn't that about how much E3b is in SouthEastern Europe. Isn't that about how my maternal DNA frequency that is African in Greece and Afronots love to point that out.
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I hate to admit it but I guess the challenge must be met for the sake of random surfers unfamiliar with all the foregoing discussion of this (and similar rehashed ad nausea subjects) who would go away with the wrong impression if left uncorrectd.
quote:Originally posted by Djehuti: ^ This is what I hate about threads such as these is that not only has the topic been discussed innumerable times before, but even when actual evidence or proof is presented, the naysayers still doubt and cling to their debunked beliefs.
Well I say let them cling on. Who cares what they believe despite of what is.
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quote:I guess the challenge must be met for the sake of random surfers unfamiliar with all the foregoing discussion of this (and similar rehashed ad nausea subjects) who would go away with the wrong impression if left uncorrectd.
I swear this is the only reason I ever even bother [ala, White Nord, Osirion, Shaun, Jamie, etc]..
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quote:Originally posted by alTakruri: What the ???
Western Eurasia = the Levant?
How ??
Eurasia = Europe + Asia. Europe is west of Asia. Hence, Western Eurasia = Europe (not the Levant).
Right. I should have said western Asia is where to look for Semitic origins of a people (no white Jews), and this would then make both he and rasolowitz stupid: he for Semitic origins of Fulani and rasolowitz for white Jews. LOL
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quote:Originally posted by alTakruri: What the ???
Western Eurasia = the Levant?
How ??
Eurasia = Europe + Asia. Europe is west of Asia. Hence, Western Eurasia = Europe (not the Levant).
quote:Originally posted by osirion:
quote:Originally posted by Charlie Bass:
quote:Originally posted by osirion: Still you guys seem to avoid mtDNA and discussion about non-African mtDNA.
Why is that?
What about the mtDNA? No study published links any Fulani mtDNA with Jews you moron.
The haplogroups of Western Eurasian origin, such as J1b, U5, H, and V, were also detected but in rather low frequencies (8.1% in total).
Jews defined as a ethnic group rather than as a religion poses some issues but in general if we consider the origins of the Jewish faith then we essentially have Semitic speaking people of the Levant. These are Western Eurasian people. So if you are looking for Jewish origins of a people you would look for genetic material having a Western Eurasian signature.
Afro-Nuts are always looking at Y-chromosomes primarily because they come from societies that are patrilineal.
Explain the mtDNA that could possibly indicate a Jewish link! Explain how it got there - in sub-Saharan Africa.
Almost 10%. Isn't that about how much E3b is in SouthEastern Europe. Isn't that about how my maternal DNA frequency that is African in Greece and Afronots love to point that out.
Yes that makes quite a bit of sense. How delightful that the Author actually meant Europe but used to term Western Eurasia. Now lets think about that logically.
Author could have simply said Europe which has 6 characters in it but instead decided to add double speak and used Western Eurasia which has 14 characters in it.
How about this bit of sense. Perhaps the author has a different definition of Eurasia than yourself. If he has an English background like myself then Eurasia stops at Turkey and is just another term for the Middle East. Very arbitrary and ambigous term.
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^^It is not ambiguous OR arbitrary. What's arbitrary are definitions of Europe and Asia. Eurasia = Europe + Asia. It's actually quite simple as it is one geo land mass. Any border at Turkey is just a figment of your imagination.
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quote:Originally posted by Sundjata: A west African language are languages mostly spoken in west Africa. Fulani speak a niger-congo language most closely related to other west African's and share traditions and cultural practices of other west Africans. Fulani have a DNA profile most similar to other West Africans. Fulani do not predominantly reside in North and East Africa, whoever told you that is a loon bin. Nearly every country you named above is in geographical west Africa, none are in East Africa. Fulani also reside heavily in Nigeria, Guinea, The Gambia, Sierra Leon, Ghana, Liberia, and even Central Africa. They are all over West Africa, not east or North, their context is the west side of the African continent. Most of West Africa its self is literally North of the equator so your point concerning that is immaterial and that still alludes to nothing by way of East Africa. You don't know what you're talking about.
You are a fvcking idiot! Fulanis comes from the NORTH mainly throughout the Sahara. Going by your theory, the Fulanis who live in Cameroon, Chad, Niger, and Sudan do not share the so-called 'West African' culture or language. Chad, Niger, Cameroon, Sudan are not in West Africa. They are located in East or North Central Africa. Fulanis are mainly from the Sahara stretching from Northwest Africa to Northcentral Africa to Northeast Africa. What about the Fulanis in Sudan? Are you calling them 'West African'? Hausa is a language that is spoken in west Africa, North Africa, Central Africa, and North Central Africa. The Berber language is found in Guinea and North Africa, Northwest Africa, and North Central Africa. If you want to talk about a West Africa language use Kpelle or Mende, Ibo, Akan, as an example. Those languages are found solely in your beloved West Africa. Fulani languages are not commonly related to other "west" African languages. Fulani languages are common to other Fulani languages and their dialects which is found more so in North Central Africa. Fulani language is not related to the 100s of languages you find throughout Liberia, Ghana, Sierra Leone, Senegal, Guinea, Gambia,etc... Stop trying to claim a distinctive black group as West African.
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quote:Originally posted by alTakruri: Oh please, they got there well after the Islamic era.
quote:Originally posted by Bettyboo:
quote:Originally posted by Agluzinha: After claiming that Fulani were of Dravidian and Ethiopian origin, West-Indian Egyptologist Alain Anselin now seems to believe that they are "Cushitic nomads" who have settled among Niger-Congo speakers, mostly relying on linguistics.
That is the correct belief. Fulani are a subfamily from the Cushitic people. They are originally from North and East Africa mainly the sahara. Plenty of them still reside in the Sudan.
They got where after the Islamic era? Do you mean they came among the 'Niger-Congo' speakers after the Islamic era? That could be very true. Fulanis are a nomadic Cushitic people.
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quote:Originally posted by Sundjata: A west African language are languages mostly spoken in west Africa. Fulani speak a niger-congo language most closely related to other west African's and share traditions and cultural practices of other west Africans. Fulani have a DNA profile most similar to other West Africans. Fulani do not predominantly reside in North and East Africa, whoever told you that is a loon bin. Nearly every country you named above is in geographical west Africa, none are in East Africa. Fulani also reside heavily in Nigeria, Guinea, The Gambia, Sierra Leon, Ghana, Liberia, and even Central Africa. They are all over West Africa, not east or North, their context is the west side of the African continent. Most of West Africa its self is literally North of the equator so your point concerning that is immaterial and that still alludes to nothing by way of East Africa. You don't know what you're talking about.
You are a fvcking idiot! Fulanis comes from the NORTH mainly throughout the Sahara. Going by your theory, the Fulanis who live in Cameroon, Chad, Niger, and Sudan do not share the so-called 'West African' culture or language. Chad, Niger, Cameroon, Sudan are not in West Africa. They are located in East or North Central Africa. Fulanis are mainly from the Sahara stretching from Northwest Africa to Northcentral Africa to Northeast Africa. What about the Fulanis in Sudan? Are you calling them 'West African'? Hausa is a language that is spoken in west Africa, North Africa, Central Africa, and North Central Africa. The Berber language is found in Guinea and North Africa, Northwest Africa, and North Central Africa. If you want to talk about a West Africa language use Kpelle or Mende, Ibo, Akan, as an example. Those languages are found solely in your beloved West Africa. Fulani languages are not commonly related to other "west" African languages. Fulani languages are common to other Fulani languages and their dialects which is found more so in North Central Africa. Fulani language is not related to the 100s of languages you find throughout Liberia, Ghana, Sierra Leone, Senegal, Guinea, Gambia,etc... Stop trying to claim a distinctive black group as West African.
Damn, you make no sense. You are making stupid and baseless claims easily seen as rubbish. A long list of countries where Fulani reside will show anyone that they reside fully within geographical west Africa and share closest linguistic ties with ethnic groups in west [not NORTH OR EAST] Africa. Any Fulani outside of west Africa is rare and recent.
Hausa speak Afro-asiatic, not niger-congo like the Fula. The Fulbe language is closest to that of the Wolof and Serer, also the Maninka, Dogon, Yoruba etc, well before they are related to any North or East African language, stupid. The "Kpelle or Mende, Ibo, Akan" speak languages that are related to Fulbe, stupid.
^Now show me any East or North African languages or any North or East Africans people represented in this grouping. All I see are west Africans! Stop trying to feel important by claiming a people you feel to be important as being more related to you than who they are actually more related to [West Africans].. You must have really low self-esteem.
Genetics:
"mtDNA of Fulani Nomads and Their Genetic Relationships to Neighboring Sedentary Populations"
quote:Despite the large size of the contemporary nomadic Fulani population (roughly 13 million people), the genetic diversity and degree of differentiation of Fulanis compared to other sub-Saharan populations remain unknown. We sampled four Fulani nomad populations (n = 186) in three countries of sub-Saharan Africa (Chad, Cameroon, and Burkina Faso) and analyzed sequences of the first hypervariable segment of the mitochondrial DNA. Most of the haplotypes belong to haplogroups of West African origin .
Geography:
"The Fulani people of West Africa are the largest nomadic group in the world."
Peul - a family of languages of the Fulani of West Africa and used as a lingua franca in the sub-Saharan regions from Senegal to Chad; the best known of the West African languages
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Bettyboo must be the alter ego of rasolowitz trying to make yet another claim for the label Semitic for another unrelated people. Damn this forum is filled with judeophiles. LOL
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quote:Originally posted by Betty Boo: They got where after the Islamic era? Do you mean they came among the 'Niger-Congo' speakers after the Islamic era?
No you illiterate, what he said is that they reached Sudan only after the Islamic era, which is true.
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quote:Originally posted by Sundjata: A west African language are languages mostly spoken in west Africa. Fulani speak a niger-congo language most closely related to other west African's and share traditions and cultural practices of other west Africans. Fulani have a DNA profile most similar to other West Africans. Fulani do not predominantly reside in North and East Africa, whoever told you that is a loon bin. Nearly every country you named above is in geographical west Africa, none are in East Africa. Fulani also reside heavily in Nigeria, Guinea, The Gambia, Sierra Leon, Ghana, Liberia, and even Central Africa. They are all over West Africa, not east or North, their context is the west side of the African continent. Most of West Africa its self is literally North of the equator so your point concerning that is immaterial and that still alludes to nothing by way of East Africa. You don't know what you're talking about.
You are a fvcking idiot! Fulanis comes from the NORTH mainly throughout the Sahara. Going by your theory, the Fulanis who live in Cameroon, Chad, Niger, and Sudan do not share the so-called 'West African' culture or language. Chad, Niger, Cameroon, Sudan are not in West Africa. They are located in East or North Central Africa. Fulanis are mainly from the Sahara stretching from Northwest Africa to Northcentral Africa to Northeast Africa. What about the Fulanis in Sudan? Are you calling them 'West African'? Hausa is a language that is spoken in west Africa, North Africa, Central Africa, and North Central Africa. The Berber language is found in Guinea and North Africa, Northwest Africa, and North Central Africa. If you want to talk about a West Africa language use Kpelle or Mende, Ibo, Akan, as an example. Those languages are found solely in your beloved West Africa. Fulani languages are not commonly related to other "west" African languages. Fulani languages are common to other Fulani languages and their dialects which is found more so in North Central Africa. Fulani language is not related to the 100s of languages you find throughout Liberia, Ghana, Sierra Leone, Senegal, Guinea, Gambia,etc... Stop trying to claim a distinctive black group as West African.
Damn, you make no sense. You are making stupid and baseless claims easily seen as rubbish. A long list of countries where Fulani reside will show anyone that they reside fully within geographical west Africa and share closest linguistic ties with ethnic groups in west [not NORTH OR EAST] Africa. Any Fulani outside of west Africa is rare and recent.
Hausa speak Afro-asiatic, not niger-congo like the Fula. The Fulbe language is closest to that of the Wolof and Serer, also the Maninka, Dogon, Yoruba etc, well before they are related to any North or East African language, stupid. The "Kpelle or Mende, Ibo, Akan" speak languages that are related to Fulbe, stupid.
^Now show me any East or North African languages or any North or East Africans people represented in this grouping. All I see are west Africans! Stop trying to feel important by claiming a people you feel to be important as being more related to you than who they are actually more related to [West Africans].. You must have really low self-esteem.
Genetics:
"mtDNA of Fulani Nomads and Their Genetic Relationships to Neighboring Sedentary Populations"
quote:Despite the large size of the contemporary nomadic Fulani population (roughly 13 million people), the genetic diversity and degree of differentiation of Fulanis compared to other sub-Saharan populations remain unknown. We sampled four Fulani nomad populations (n = 186) in three countries of sub-Saharan Africa (Chad, Cameroon, and Burkina Faso) and analyzed sequences of the first hypervariable segment of the mitochondrial DNA. Most of the haplotypes belong to haplogroups of West African origin .
Geography:
"The Fulani people of West Africa are the largest nomadic group in the world."
Peul - a family of languages of the Fulani of West Africa and used as a lingua franca in the sub-Saharan regions from Senegal to Chad; the best known of the West African languages
You fvcking idiot! The Fulani language are related to other Fulani languages or its dialects. Fulanis are found mainly throughout the Sahara whether it is west, central, or east. Niger, Chad, Cameroon, Sudan are not West Africa. What I said makes perfect sense. I never said Fulanis "predominately" reside in North or East Africa. They predominately reside in the Northern regions of Africa. It doesn't matter that Hausa is a so-called "afro-asian" language. It is still found in West Africa, Nortcentral Africa. There's no difference with Fulani. Fulani languages are found througout Northwest Africa, Northcentral Africa, and the Sudan. Mainly throughout the Sahara region. What I said Stands! If you want to single out a "west-african" language, your best bet is Mende, Akan, Igbo, Kpelle, Twi, Ewe,etc... These languages are found SOLELY in West Africa. Fulani languages are not found SOLELY in 'west' Africa. You meant to say "The Fulani group of the SAHARA are the largest nomadic group in the world. You shut up you dumb fvck.
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quote:Originally posted by Betty Boo: They got where after the Islamic era? Do you mean they came among the 'Niger-Congo' speakers after the Islamic era?
No you illiterate, what he said is that they reached Sudan only after the Islamic era, which is true.
He didn't say that! They didn't reach no damn Sudan after the Islamic era you fvcking idiot. They always been in the Sudan. They always lived in the Sahara.
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quote:Originally posted by Bettyboo: You fvcking idiot!
You fvcking bitch!
quote: The Fulani language are related to other Fulani languages or its dialects. Fulanis are found mainly throughout the Sahara whether it is west, central, or east. Niger, Chad, Cameroon, Sudan are not West Africa.
Geography: The Fulani people of West Africa are the largest nomadic group in the world."
quote:What I said makes perfect sense. I never said Fulanis "predominately" reside in North or East Africa. They predominately reside in the Northern regions of Africa.
Yes you did say that you back tracking bitch, and they live in west Africa, which is north of the equator. This is a non-starter.
quote: It doesn't matter that Hausa is a so-called "afro-asian" language. It is still found in West Africa
I don't care since it didn't originate their, while the Peul language did.. Nor is the Hausa language related to other west African languages, while Peul is.
quote:Nortcentral Africa.
You're making up sub-regions.
quote: There's no difference with Fulani. Fulani languages are found througout Northwest Africa, Northcentral Africa, and the Sudan.
No, they are mostly found though out west Africa:
Peul - a family of languages of the Fulani of West Africa and used as a lingua franca in the sub-Saharan regions from Senegal to Chad; the best known of the West African languages
quote: These languages are found SOLELY in West Africa. Fulani languages are not found SOLELY in 'west' Africa.
Doesn't matter where they spread afterwards, what matters is where and among whom they originate as well as the region to which it is MOSTLY currently associated. In this case, MOST Peul speakers live in West Africa and the said language originated there among west Africans.
quote: You meant to say "The Fulani group of the SAHARA are the largest nomadic group in the world. You shut up you dumb fvck.
I didn't mean to say anything, that was a quote and I posted my source. You simply hate reading. All academics are aware that Fulani are west African, which is why I posted that source to show you.
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" Oh please, they got there well after the Islamic era."
^Which is true since documents confirm a Fulani presence in West Africa well before Islam, but not Sudan.
You fvcking idiot. He quote the post which reads "Fulani are a subfamily from the Cushitic people. They are originally from North and East Africa mainly in the Sahara. Plenty of them still resides in the Sudan." I suppose a Cushitic people came to the Sudan after the Islamic era? You fvcking idiot. Cushitic people are originally from the Sudan. Or I suppose he agree everything to be true except the 'Sudan' part. You are a fvcking idiot. If he was putting emphasis on "residing in the Sudan" he should have quote it and not the complete post. You are a fvcking idiot.
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You fvcking Ape. I never said Fulanis predominately reside in North or East Africa. I never said Fulanis live in Egypt, Morroco, Libya, Tunisia, Algeria, Egypt, or the Western Sahara. You don't like to read you fvcking monkey. I said Fulanis are found throughout the Northwest, Northcentral, and Northeast Africa. Mainly in the Sahara. Stop quoting Chad. Chad and Niger are not West African you fvcking idiot. I am not making up regions. You are a fvcking idiot. Everyone Knows the difference between Northwest and Northeast. "Northwest" is not made-up you fvcking idiot. You fvcking idiot what the fvck do you mean spread "afterwards". After what? They are a nomadic people. Their language is related to other Fulani languages and their dialects. If you want to make up a west African language, focus on languages that are SOLELY west African. For the last time, Fulanis are found in the Northern regions of Africa mainly the Sahara. What I said STANDS! Why do you want these beautiful people to be part of ugly west Africa? They are a nomadic people from the Sahara.
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quote:Originally posted by Sundjata: ^^It is not ambiguous OR arbitrary. What's arbitrary are definitions of Europe and Asia. Eurasia = Europe + Asia. It's actually quite simple as it is one geo land mass. Any border at Turkey is just a figment of your imagination.
No its not that simple. Eurasia is a term used by many to simply mean indigenous Caucasoid regions of the world. So the author could have meant North Africa and the Iberian Peninsula based on Eurocentric paradigms.
However, under the English school of geography, Eurasia is a land mass that contains people that are both Asian and European in origin (between that are a mix of these two types. Basically the land mass that is between both Europe and Asia in terms of the ethnicity of the people such as what many Middle Eastern people are considered. So if you look up a map of Eurasia you get your logic = Europe + Asia, however, if you look up Eurasian people you get a type that is considered Caucasian but not exactly Euroepan. It is likely since the author's context is regards to people that he meant it in the context of a ethnic type which is always double talk for Middle East.
However, all you have to do is show me that the Haplotypes mentioned are normally found in Europe rather than the Middle East and then end of discussion.
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quote:Originally posted by Bettyboo: You fvcking Ape.
You fvcking cunt.
quote:I never said Fulanis predominately reside in North or East Africa.
Quote from you:
"Fulanis are of the Northern and Eastern part of Africa."
Stop back tracking!!!
quote:I never said Fulanis live in Egypt, Morroco, Libya, Tunisia, Algeria, Egypt, or the Western Sahara.
That's North Africa. You said North Africa! Therefore you're wrong to assert that they mainly reside in North and East Africa when there are almost none in East Africa, and they only generally reside in ONE country in North Africa. All that is left is West fvcking Africa you ugly bitch!!
Check out this map via the "African writing systems" home page, which shows each corresponding region as it's defined geo-politically.
quote: They obvious You don't like to read you fvcking monkey. I said Fulanis are found throughout the Northwest, Northcentral, and Northeast Africa.
They are only found in ONE Northeast African country, Northcentral Africa isn't a sub-region, and Northwest Africa is the Maghreb. They do not live in the Mahgreb and are not even related to Maghrebians.
quote:Mainly in the Sahara.
Senegal, Guinea, The Gambia, Nigeria, Sierra Leone, Benin, Burkina Faso, Guinea Bissau, Côte d'Ivoire, Niger, Togo, the Central African Republic, Ghana, Liberia are not in the Sahara and this is the heart of where you'll find most Fulbe.
Stop repeating nonsense, part of west Africa straddles the Sahara anyways.
quote: Stop quoting Chad. Chad and Niger are not West African you fvcking idiot.
I never said Chad is in west Africa, but Niger most certainly is..
^^Why is it that the Fula reside in nearly all of these countries, but only one country in North Africa and none in East Africa?
quote:ad was i I am not making up regions.
Yes u are
quote:You are a fvcking idiot. Everyone Knows the difference between Northwest and Northeast. "Northwest" is not made-up you fvcking idiot.
Of course not, but "NorthCentral Africa" IS made up, and Fula don't reside in geo-political Northwest Africa.
quote: You fvcking idiot what the fvck do you mean spread "afterwards". After what?
After their language became distinctly what it is today.
quote: They are a nomadic people. Their language is related to other Fulani languages and their dialects. If you want to make up a west African language, focus on languages that are SOLELY west African.
I am focusing on languages that are SOLEY west Africa, and Peul/Fula is one of them.
quote:For the last time, Fulanis are found in the Northern regions of Africa mainly the Sahara. What I said STANDS!
What you say is irrelevant.. And that stands! See above for a retro-active reply to this nonsense.
quote: Why do you want these beautiful people to be part of ugly west Africa?
If they are beautiful, then I see not how west Africa is ugly since they ARE West Africa. Unlike you, who I can only imagine probably looks like Yonis or something, along with the rest of your family.
quote:They are nomadic people from West Africa.
Yep, that seems to agree with the general consensus, among the obvious:
The Fulani people of West Africa are the largest nomadic group in the world."
quote:The diverse Fulani people are scattered all around the **West African** Savannnah belt. This area sits between Senegambia and the French Equatorial Africa. It has been roughly estimated that there are over six million people who consider themselves Fulani, and or that speak the Fulani language."
- From Minnesota State University
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" Oh please, they got there well after the Islamic era."
^Which is true since documents confirm a Fulani presence in West Africa well before Islam, but not Sudan.
You fvcking idiot. He quote the post which reads "Fulani are a subfamily from the Cushitic people. They are originally from North and East Africa mainly in the Sahara. Plenty of them still resides in the Sudan." I suppose a Cushitic people came to the Sudan after the Islamic era? You fvcking idiot. Cushitic people are originally from the Sudan. Or I suppose he agree everything to be true except the 'Sudan' part. You are a fvcking idiot. If he was putting emphasis on "residing in the Sudan" he should have quote it and not the complete post. You are a fvcking idiot.
You harlot.. Why not just ask him what he was responding to, since it's obvious. You really have the IQ of a moon rock, u know that?
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Fulanis speak a Niger/Congo language and have Niger/Congo genetics. Other than the Eurasian DNA of 8.1% I am not sure why someone would say they are North or East African. I guess we are all East African far enough back but obviously the Fulani have been in West Africa long enough now that they are considered West African, at least since the Sahara dried up some 6000 years ago.
Still like someone to deal with theories of how the mtDNA from Eurasia got to Sub-Saharan Africa.
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Still like someone to deal with theories of how the mtDNA from Eurasia got to Sub-Saharan Africa.
I already told you, most likely via contact with coastal North Africans. Actually, if you'd read the study you yourself quoted, you'd know that this is their position as well..
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quote:Originally posted by Bettyboo: You fvcking Ape.
You fvcking cunt.
quote:I never said Fulanis predominately reside in North or East Africa.
Quote from you:
"Fulanis are of the Northern and Eastern part of Africa."
Stop fvcking back tracking!!!
quote:I never said Fulanis live in Egypt, Morroco, Libya, Tunisia, Algeria, Egypt, or the Western Sahara.
That's North Africa. You said North Africa! Therefore you're wrong to assert that mainly reside in North and East Africa when there are almost none in East Africa, and they only generally reside in ONE country in North Africa. All that is left is West fvcking Africa you ugly bitch!!
quote: They obvious You don't like to read you fvcking monkey. I said Fulanis are found throughout the Northwest, Northcentral, and Northeast Africa.
They are only found in ONE Northeast African country, Northcentral Africa isn't a sub-region, and Northwest Africa is the Maghreb. They do not live in the Mahgreb and are not even related to Maghrebians.
quote:Mainly in the Sahara.
Senegal, Guinea, The Gambia, Nigeria, Sierra Leone, Benin, Burkina Faso, Guinea Bissau, Côte d'Ivoire, Niger, Togo, the Central African Republic, Ghana, Liberia are not in the Sahara and this is the heart of where you'll find most Fulbe.
Stop repeating nonsense, part of west Africa straddles the Sahara anyways.
quote: Stop quoting Chad. Chad and Niger are not West African you fvcking idiot.
I never said Chad is in west Africa, but Niger most certainly is..
^^Why is it that the Fula reside in nearly all of these countries, but only one country in North Africa and none in East Africa?
quote:ad was i I am not making up regions.
Yes u are
quote:You are a fvcking idiot. Everyone Knows the difference between Northwest and Northeast. "Northwest" is not made-up you fvcking idiot.
Of course not, but "NorthCentral Africa" IS made up, and Fula don't reside in geo-political Northwest Africa.
quote: You fvcking idiot what the fvck do you mean spread "afterwards". After what?
After their language became distinctly what it is today.
quote: They are a nomadic people. Their language is related to other Fulani languages and their dialects. If you want to make up a west African language, focus on languages that are SOLELY west African.
I am focusing on languages that are SOLEY west Africa, and Peul/Fula is one of them.
quote:For the last time, Fulanis are found in the Northern regions of Africa mainly the Sahara. What I said STANDS!
What you say is irrelevant.. And that stands! See above for a retro-active reply to this nonsense.
quote: Why do you want these beautiful people to be part of ugly west Africa?
If they are beautiful, then I see not how west Africa is ugly since they ARE West Africa. Unlike you, who I can only imagine probably looks like Yonis or something, along with the rest of your family.
quote:They are nomadic people from West Africa.
Yep, that seems to agree with the general consensus, among the obvious:
The Fulani people of West Africa are the largest nomadic group in the world."
quote:The diverse Fulani people are scattered all around the **West African** Savannnah belt. This area sits between Senegambia and the French Equatorial Africa. It has been roughly estimated that there are over six million people who consider themselves Fulani, and or that speak the Fulani language."
- From Minnesota State University
You are a fvcking idiot you fvcking gorilla! I never said Fulani PREDOMINATELY RESIDE in North or East Africa. I said Fulanis are OF THE NORTHERN AND EASTERN PART OF AFRICA. You are a fvcking idiot! I am RIGHT! You are a fvcking idiot! I said Fulani are found in small pockets in North Africa you dumb ape. I didn't back track you dumb fvck! Pay attention to what I wrote. If they are found in ONE country in North Africa what is the fvcking problem. Fulanis are found in the Northern regions of Africa. What I said stands! Fulanis are found in Cameroon, Northern Nigeria, Burkina Faso, Niger, Chad, and even the Sudan. The only west African countries Fulanis reside in are the Northwest areas primarily, Mauritania, Senegal, Mali, Burkina. You are a dumb fvck. You still babbling shyt I never said. You are an azzhole. Fulanis don't reside in majority of those so-called west Africa countries. The Sahara is the Sahara you dumb fvck. Senegal, Gambia, Mauritania, Mali, Burkina are all Northern areas you fvcking idiot! North Central Africa is not made up you fvcking idiot! Central Africa is not made up neither. What I said is not 'Irrelevant' you azzhole. You want it to be "irrelevant". Fulanis are found in Sudan, Chad, Niger, and even Cameroon. Those are not West African countries you ape. Stop claiming them as originally west African because they are not. West Africas are not "originally" nomadic people. Fulanis are branches from the Cushitic family tree. They come from the SAHARA. They are found in Northern regions in Africa. Stop trying to make West Africa look pretty.
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" Oh please, they got there well after the Islamic era."
^Which is true since documents confirm a Fulani presence in West Africa well before Islam, but not Sudan.
You fvcking idiot. He quote the post which reads "Fulani are a subfamily from the Cushitic people. They are originally from North and East Africa mainly in the Sahara. Plenty of them still resides in the Sudan." I suppose a Cushitic people came to the Sudan after the Islamic era? You fvcking idiot. Cushitic people are originally from the Sudan. Or I suppose he agree everything to be true except the 'Sudan' part. You are a fvcking idiot. If he was putting emphasis on "residing in the Sudan" he should have quote it and not the complete post. You are a fvcking idiot.
You harlot.. Why not just ask him what he was responding to, since it's obvious. You really have the IQ of a moon rock, u know that?
You fvcking idiot! I did asked? Why are you speaking for him. No it wasn't "Obvious". That is why I asked you dumb fvck.
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quote:Originally posted by Sundjata: A west African language are languages mostly spoken in west Africa. Fulani speak a niger-congo language most closely related to other west African's and share traditions and cultural practices of other west Africans. Fulani have a DNA profile most similar to other West Africans. Fulani do not predominantly reside in North and East Africa, whoever told you that is a loon bin. Nearly every country you named above is in geographical west Africa, none are in East Africa. Fulani also reside heavily in Nigeria, Guinea, The Gambia, Sierra Leon, Ghana, Liberia, and even Central Africa. They are all over West Africa, not east or North, their context is the west side of the African continent. Most of West Africa its self is literally North of the equator so your point concerning that is immaterial and that still alludes to nothing by way of East Africa. You don't know what you're talking about.
Ignoring all you emotionalism. 8.1% is what you get when you consider both Y and mtDNA. So what I said is more accurate when describing just mtDNA. Besides, if you were on your game a bit better you simply need to ask me what mtDNA is Jewish! But now instead you fall right into that trap yourself. So now you answer that question - what mtDNA is exclusively Jewish? If we take all the tradidiontally Jewish communities of the world the mtDNA would encompass Eurasian type. Of course there is the issue of Islam practiced by the Fulani which also support gene flow from Semitic people of the Levant since this means trade with people that are of that region. Then of course you have the Haj and money and Eurasian women for sale. Add it all up and you get Eurasian gene flow. But we are still talking West African people being slightly Arabicized like many other African people that have converted to Islam. Doesn't this make the Fulani a lot like Somalians but on the maternal side rather than the paternal?
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You are a fvcking idiot. That article said the Fulani are 'scattered'... in the savannah... You don't pay attention to what people write. You want a distinction black people to be West Africans. All West Africans look alike. Fulanis don't look nothing like a farming, forest ape.
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quote:You are a fvcking idiot you fvcking gorilla! I never said Fulani PREDOMINATELY RESIDE in North or East Africa. I said Fulanis are OF THE NORTHERN AND EASTERN PART OF AFRICA.
That's the same thing you ugly Baboon faced 3rd world whore.
quote:You are a fvcking idiot! I am RIGHT! You are a fvcking idiot! I said Fulani are found in small pockets in North Africa you dumb ape. I didn't back track you dumb fvck! Pay attention to what I wrote. If they are found in ONE country in North Africa what is the fvcking problem. Fulanis are found in the Northern regions of Africa. What I said stands! Fulanis are found in Cameroon, Northern Nigeria, Burkina Faso, Niger, Chad, and even the Sudan. The only west African countries Fulanis reside in are the Northwest areas primarily, Mauritania, Senegal, Mali, Burkina. You are a dumb fvck. You still babbling shyt I never said. You are an azzhole. Fulanis don't reside in majority of those so-called west Africa countries. The Sahara is the Sahara you dumb fvck. Senegal, Gambia, Mauritania, Mali, Burkina are all Northern areas you fvcking idiot! North Central Africa is not made up you fvcking idiot! Central Africa is not made up neither. What I said is not 'Irrelevant' you azzhole. You want it to be "irrelevant". Fulanis are found in Sudan, Chad, Niger, and even Cameroon. Those are not West African countries you ape. Stop claiming them as originally west African because they are not. West Africas are not "originally" nomadic people. Fulanis are branches from the Cushitic family tree. They come from the SAHARA. They are found in Northern regions in Africa. Stop trying to make West Africa look pretty.
Cushitic is a language family which Fulani don't speak. Cameroon, Northern Nigeria, Burkina Faso and Niger are all part of the "Economic Community of West African States", or ECOWAS, you ignorant loser.
Thus, you admire a west African people who have nothing to do with your lonely ass. I am African American. Many Fulani were taken as slaves from west Africa to America [ Abdulrahman is one of the most prominent examples] . Fulani is ultimately part of my heritage, not yours you lonely East African identity thief.
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Still like someone to deal with theories of how the mtDNA from Eurasia got to Sub-Saharan Africa.
I already told you, most likely via contact with coastal North Africans. Actually, if you'd read the study you yourself quoted, you'd know that this is their position as well..
Hmm, and aren't there many Semitic speaking people from the Levant in North Africa!
I think you guys have been rather unfair to this Jew! Splitting hairs again!
Sounds like Jews that converted to Islam and spread into North Africa could have made contact with West African people and thus we have a remanant of Jewish people in West Africa which is still represented by 8.1% frequency of their mtDNA.
Obviously there's no founder effect, the Fulani language clearly indicates that they are West African, and I dismiss the origins of the Fulani as Jewish but there was still contact and marginal cultural diffusion.
Still West African with a Jewish or Semitic element. Or is the mtDNA of Berbers sufficient to explain this but then again isn't that also West Asian in origin?
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quote:Originally posted by Bettyboo: You are a fvcking idiot. That article said the Fulani are 'scattered'... in the savannah... You don't pay attention to what people write. You want a distinction black people to be West Africans. All West Africans look alike. Fulanis don't look nothing like a farming, forest ape.
LOL, it says they are scattered through out the **West African** savannnah BELT and that "This area sits between Senegambia and the French Equatorial Africa.. Learn how to read. Also, I know Fulani don't look like your mom, I never said that.
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quote:Originally posted by Bettyboo: You are a fvcking idiot. That article said the Fulani are 'scattered'... in the savannah... You don't pay attention to what people write. You want a distinction black people to be West Africans. All West Africans look alike. Fulanis don't look nothing like a farming, forest ape.
Cushitic people spaak an Afro-Asiatic language.
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Still like someone to deal with theories of how the mtDNA from Eurasia got to Sub-Saharan Africa.
I already told you, most likely via contact with coastal North Africans. Actually, if you'd read the study you yourself quoted, you'd know that this is their position as well..
Hmm, and aren't there many Semitic speaking people from the Levant in North Africa!
Who told you that? Most Coastal North Africans [whether they speak Arabic or Berber] are generally derived from the aboriginal Berber population that migrated from east Africa several thousand years ago. Certainly there aren't many Jews in Coastal North Africa.
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Still like someone to deal with theories of how the mtDNA from Eurasia got to Sub-Saharan Africa.
I already told you, most likely via contact with coastal North Africans. Actually, if you'd read the study you yourself quoted, you'd know that this is their position as well..
Hmm, and aren't there many Semitic speaking people from the Levant in North Africa!
Who told you that? Most Coastal North Africans [whether they speak Arabic or Berber] are generally derived from the aboriginal Berber population that migrated from east Africa several thousand years ago. Certainly there aren't many Jews in Coastal North Africa.
That is mostly true on the paternal side but we know what we get when we look down the maternal side of the Berbers. Many theories on this you know. There is the backflow theory that the Berbers are West Asian in origin = ahh, more Jews. Just kidding. Who knows though.
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quote:That is mostly true on the paternal side but we know what we get when we look down the maternal side of the Berbers.
Maternally, Berber share most genetic similarity to Europeans, relative to Levantines.
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quote: Despite the large size of the contemporary nomadic Fulani population (roughly 13 million people), the genetic diversity and degree of differentiation of Fulanis compared to other sub-Saharan populations remain unknown. We sampled four Fulani nomad populations (n = 186) in three countries of sub-Saharan Africa (Chad, Cameroon, and Burkina Faso) and analyzed sequences of the first hypervariable segment of the mitochondrial DNA. Most of the haplotypes belong to haplogroups of West African origin, such as L1b, L3b, L3d, L2b, L2c, and L2d (79.6% in total), which are all well represented in each of the four geographically separated samples. The haplogroups of Western Eurasian origin, such as J1b, U5, H, and V, were also detected but in rather low frequencies (8.1% in total). As in African hunter-gatherers (Pygmies and Khoisan) and some populations from central Tunisia (Kesra and Zriba), three of the Fulani nomad samples do not reveal significant negative values of Fu's selective neutrality test. The multidimensional scaling of F^sub ST^ genetic distances of related sub-Saharan populations and the analysis of molecular variance (AMOVA) show clear and close relationships between all pairs of the four Fulani nomad samples, irrespective of their geographic origin. The only group of nomadic Fulani that manifests some similarities with geographically related agricultural populations (from Guinea-Bissau and Nigeria) comes from Tcheboua in northern Cameroon.
What I quoted is only an abstract of the + 11 pages information about Fulani MTDNA, go to the link and you will see the full pages.
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I picture a caravan crossing the Sahara with Camels packed with gold and salt. A long line of West African men and weomen following this caravan in chains. The same caravan returns with the same merchants but this time it is moving southbound with Berber women. The caravan merchants have spent their money well.
Thats the sort of thing the evidence points to.
Slave, salt and gold traders.
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quote:Originally posted by osirion: [QB] I picture a caravan crossing the Sahara with Camels packed with gold and salt. A long line of West African men and weomen following this caravan in chains.
Most slaves in the trans-saharan slave trade were women...
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quote: I picture a caravan crossing the Sahara with Camels packed with gold and salt. A long line of West African men and women following this caravan in chains.
I picture you on a sofa with your psychiatrist trying to explain your desperate craving for attention. As long as I've been on this forum I've never seen any thread from you, or response from you, that smacks of anything but stupidity and childish/effeminate attempts at provocation!
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quote:Originally posted by Sundjata: Cameroon, Northern Nigeria, Burkina Faso and Niger are all part of the "Economic Community of West African States", or ECOWAS
Brief correction... Cameroon is not a part of the ECOWAS, which has little affect on the convo while the reality still reflects embarrassment for the uneducated troll. Cameroon is southern and encompasses both west AND central Africa and directly borders west Africa [Nigeria] to the east, and central Africa [central African republic] to the west, so the implication of Betty "the troll" Boo that it was somehow in the Sahara desert only sheds more light on her inherent stupidity...
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What I mean is those who've depthly studied the matter know that historically halPulaaren speakers debutted in Tekrour and frm there migrated clear to the Arabian peninsula over the centuries. The great Fulani "drift" (sorry for the borrowing) began for the main part after they professed Islam not before.
There were prehistoric Saharan peoples who originated a number of the halPulaaren customs. It is those peoples' descendents who upon crossing the Senegal and encountering the Serere and perhaps learning Atlantic speech from them and marrying with them went on to become the Fulani, a historically recent ethny.
quote:Originally posted by Bettyboo:
quote:Originally posted by alTakruri: Oh please, they got there well after the Islamic era.
quote:Originally posted by Bettyboo:
quote:Originally posted by Agluzinha: After claiming that Fulani were of Dravidian and Ethiopian origin, West-Indian Egyptologist Alain Anselin now seems to believe that they are "Cushitic nomads" who have settled among Niger-Congo speakers, mostly relying on linguistics.
That is the correct belief. Fulani are a subfamily from the Cushitic people. They are originally from North and East Africa mainly the sahara. Plenty of them still reside in the Sudan.
They got where after the Islamic era? Do you mean they came among the 'Niger-Congo' speakers after the Islamic era? That could be very true. Fulanis are a nomadic Cushitic people.
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Not so sure about Western Sahara but there's definetly Fulani presence in Maroc. When a Fulani woman takes on a 'Beriberi' husband she generally is no longer thought of as Fulani, so technically no (or very few) Fulani in Algeria. Tunisia, I don't know about. Libya is a sticky wicket, again, not there as halPulaaren in any significant number.
quote:Originally posted by Sundjata: Fulani are nomads and live many places, but mostly in west Africa, which is north of the equator and also straddles the Sahara.
North Africa: * Algeria * Egypt * Libya * Morocco * Sudan * Tunisia * Western Sahara
^^Fulani live in none of these places [except Sudan]!
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I believe Anselin is recognizing Fula as having a Niger-Congo grammatical base, but postulates that a Cushitic variety subsists into it as a mostly lexical superstrate: a good deal of Fula words would be somehow unrelatable to related Atlantic languages and in the same time peculiar to modern Cushitic languages.
PS: On another note, and not to start trouble, as much as I am conscious of the importance of Genetics in the understanding of the African past (and I am thankful to many people from thenilevalley forum and from this board for familiarizing me with this about 3 years ago), I would appreciate *some* of you to be respectful with scholars you haven't read and not deriding them or maligning them because their conclusions do no fit your most recent genetic study.
It does not mean that their work, which is often based on the mastering of scientific comparative methods and of the cultures compared (which are often native to them) have to be thrown out for that matter.
Not every scholar interested in populations cultural history down in every African University can afford having some geneticist at hand working with him and producing nearly exhaustive genetic samples of the populations studied for the purpose of his works.
Many disciplines, from genetics, to linguistics, compared religion and customs, archaeology, etc, can provide more or less relevant and even sometimes definite evidence about some scientific point if someones dares to actually investigate these fields.
Population Genetics, especially being far from exhaustive and whose conclusions can be used to seriously support contradictory hypotheses, such as the presence of Eurasian maternal ancestryamong Berbers, or even be contradicted by more recent studies , can only be considered as a piece of truth, not as the universal truth all other sciences would have to submit to.
quote:Originally posted by Agluzinha: After claiming that Fulani were of Dravidian and Ethiopian origin, West-Indian Egyptologist Alain Anselin now seems to believe that they are "Cushitic nomads" who have settled among Niger-Congo speakers, mostly relying on linguistics.
LOL Captain America can't help himself. When he's not cursing working class blacks, poor African countries, he is using "3rd world" as a pejorative, like his white masters taught him. This negro suffers from a serious class complex. LOL
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To clarify, I wasn't quoting this as an endorsement of the article [which is blatantly erroneous], only the statement most obvious to everyone about the regional association of the Fulani. I actually wrote a complaint to them, politely requesting a basis for their claims, while providing proof to the contrary.
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quote:Originally posted by Agluzinha: [QB] I believe Anselin is recognizing Fula as having a Niger-Congo grammatical base, but postulates that a Cushitic variety subsists into it as a mostly lexical superstrate: a good deal of Fula words would be somehow unrelatable to related Atlantic languages and in the same time peculiar to modern Cushitic languages.
Do you have a quote? If not, I assume this is your own assessment. If so [or either way], what is it based on, do you have any examples, and what are the arguments against such a perceived observation?
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quote:Originally posted by Bettyboo: You fvcking Ape.
You fvcking cunt.
quote:I never said Fulanis predominately reside in North or East Africa.
Quote from you:
"Fulanis are of the Northern and Eastern part of Africa."
Stop fvcking back tracking!!!
quote:I never said Fulanis live in Egypt, Morroco, Libya, Tunisia, Algeria, Egypt, or the Western Sahara.
That's North Africa. You said North Africa! Therefore you're wrong to assert that mainly reside in North and East Africa when there are almost none in East Africa, and they only generally reside in ONE country in North Africa. All that is left is West fvcking Africa you ugly bitch!!
quote: They obvious You don't like to read you fvcking monkey. I said Fulanis are found throughout the Northwest, Northcentral, and Northeast Africa.
They are only found in ONE Northeast African country, Northcentral Africa isn't a sub-region, and Northwest Africa is the Maghreb. They do not live in the Mahgreb and are not even related to Maghrebians.
quote:Mainly in the Sahara.
Senegal, Guinea, The Gambia, Nigeria, Sierra Leone, Benin, Burkina Faso, Guinea Bissau, Côte d'Ivoire, Niger, Togo, the Central African Republic, Ghana, Liberia are not in the Sahara and this is the heart of where you'll find most Fulbe.
Stop repeating nonsense, part of west Africa straddles the Sahara anyways.
quote: Stop quoting Chad. Chad and Niger are not West African you fvcking idiot.
I never said Chad is in west Africa, but Niger most certainly is..
^^Why is it that the Fula reside in nearly all of these countries, but only one country in North Africa and none in East Africa?
quote:ad was i I am not making up regions.
Yes u are
quote:You are a fvcking idiot. Everyone Knows the difference between Northwest and Northeast. "Northwest" is not made-up you fvcking idiot.
Of course not, but "NorthCentral Africa" IS made up, and Fula don't reside in geo-political Northwest Africa.
quote: You fvcking idiot what the fvck do you mean spread "afterwards". After what?
After their language became distinctly what it is today.
quote: They are a nomadic people. Their language is related to other Fulani languages and their dialects. If you want to make up a west African language, focus on languages that are SOLELY west African.
I am focusing on languages that are SOLEY west Africa, and Peul/Fula is one of them.
quote:For the last time, Fulanis are found in the Northern regions of Africa mainly the Sahara. What I said STANDS!
What you say is irrelevant.. And that stands! See above for a retro-active reply to this nonsense.
quote: Why do you want these beautiful people to be part of ugly west Africa?
If they are beautiful, then I see not how west Africa is ugly since they ARE West Africa. Unlike you, who I can only imagine probably looks like Yonis or something, along with the rest of your family.
quote:They are nomadic people from West Africa.
Yep, that seems to agree with the general consensus, among the obvious:
The Fulani people of West Africa are the largest nomadic group in the world."
quote:The diverse Fulani people are scattered all around the **West African** Savannnah belt. This area sits between Senegambia and the French Equatorial Africa. It has been roughly estimated that there are over six million people who consider themselves Fulani, and or that speak the Fulani language."
- From Minnesota State University
You are a fvcking idiot you fvcking gorilla! I never said Fulani PREDOMINATELY RESIDE in North or East Africa. I said Fulanis are OF THE NORTHERN AND EASTERN PART OF AFRICA. You are a fvcking idiot! I am RIGHT! You are a fvcking idiot! I said Fulani are found in small pockets in North Africa you dumb ape. I didn't back track you dumb fvck! Pay attention to what I wrote. If they are found in ONE country in North Africa what is the fvcking problem. Fulanis are found in the Northern regions of Africa. What I said stands! Fulanis are found in Cameroon, Northern Nigeria, Burkina Faso, Niger, Chad, and even the Sudan. The only west African countries Fulanis reside in are the Northwest areas primarily, Mauritania, Senegal, Mali, Burkina. You are a dumb fvck. You still babbling shyt I never said. You are an azzhole. Fulanis don't reside in majority of those so-called west Africa countries. The Sahara is the Sahara you dumb fvck. Senegal, Gambia, Mauritania, Mali, Burkina are all Northern areas you fvcking idiot! North Central Africa is not made up you fvcking idiot! Central Africa is not made up neither. What I said is not 'Irrelevant' you azzhole. You want it to be "irrelevant". Fulanis are found in Sudan, Chad, Niger, and even Cameroon. Those are not West African countries you ape. Stop claiming them as originally west African because they are not. West Africas are not "originally" nomadic people. Fulanis are branches from the Cushitic family tree. They come from the SAHARA. They are found in Northern regions in Africa. Stop trying to make West Africa look pretty.
Looks like we've got a psycho on her hands repeating herself over and over like a broken record with the same profane word in every paragraph. Why you haven't been banned months ago is mind boggling.
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Even if Fulanis weren't West African at all that region of the continent would still be beautiful. Fulanis are not the only good-looking West Africans.
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Fulanis are "West Africans" par excellence. They are no more "Saharan", "East African", or "Eurasian" than any other "West African" group. They drew from the very same source as the "oldest" E1b1a (M2) bearing populations near the Atlantic ocean.
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^^"Caucasia" is a mountainous region of Northern Europe and thus, if the said Haplogroup did not emerge there, then it is not "Caucasian". Which is irrelevant since Fulani are nearly 100% e3a.
Should've been end of story. All else that followed is a fog of fumes.
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