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Naaw you tried to paint the pic with only one brush when You have been here long enough to know you need many hues and brushes for the picture is more complex.. Posts: 6546 | From: japan | Registered: Feb 2009
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quote:Originally posted by Brada-Anansi: Naaw you tried to paint the pic with only one brush when You have been here long enough to know you need many hues and brushes for the picture is more complex..
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That Syria was once the domain of Cepheus, an Ethiopian king,Tacitus wrote that the Romans believed that the Jews originated in Ethiopia but fled the persecutions of the King. Strabo,even earlier,stressed that people of Western Judea was Africiod:
But although the inhibatance are mixed up thus,the most accerdited reports in regards to the people of Jerusalem reperesents the ancestors of the present Judeans as they are called Egyptians.
The remains found at Lakish:The excavacation uncovered a mass of human bones,which was estamated to form the remains of fifteen hundred individuals..remains of 695 skulls were brought to London by the British expidition...curiously,the crania indicate a close resemblance to the population of Egypt at this time...the relationships found suggest that the population of the town in 700 B.C was entirely of Egyptian origin..they show further,that the population of lakish was probably derived from upper Egypt.James e Brunson
By inference I'd have to say some body was!!!Posts: 6546 | From: japan | Registered: Feb 2009
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quote:Originally posted by Mike111: typeZeiss, now it is YOU who is "over generalizing".
There is a BIG difference between the BIBLICAL Hebrews, and the Habiru. The Habiru were real people, and are well documented.
You don't know what your talking about friend. DO RESEARCH. That term was applied to any number of people. I have done my research, do yours. Or not
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quote:Originally posted by Brada-Anansi: That Syria was once the domain of Cepheus, an Ethiopian king,Tacitus wrote that the Romans believed that the Jews originated in Ethiopia but fled the persecutions of the King. Strabo,even earlier,stressed that people of Western Judea was Africiod:
But although the inhibatance are mixed up thus,the most accerdited reports in regards to the people of Jerusalem reperesents the ancestors of the present Judeans as they are called Egyptians.
The remains found at Lakish:The excavacation uncovered a mass of human bones,which was estamated to form the remains of fifteen hundred individuals..remains of 695 skulls were brought to London by the British expidition...curiously,the crania indicate a close resemblance to the population of Egypt at this time...the relationships found suggest that the population of the town in 700 B.C was entirely of Egyptian origin..they show further,that the population of lakish was probably derived from upper Egypt.James e Brunson
By inference I'd have to say some body was!!!
That is from Greek Mythology and the "Aethiopia" they were referring to isn't present day "Ethiopia". That was the term the Greeks applied to all of Black Africa. They even called Egyptians "Aethiop" at times. Just meant black skinned people and Aethiopia was applied to lands controlled/dominated by black skinned people. If you look at old maps of Africa back in the 1800s and 1700s you will see that they called most if not all of Africa Ethiopia at one point. Then in the 70s present day Ethiopia decided to use the term to refer to themselves. Before which time they were known as El Habasha or Abyssinia as it was called by the Europeans
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quote:Originally posted by Brada-Anansi: That Syria was once the domain of Cepheus, an Ethiopian king,Tacitus wrote that the Romans believed that the Jews originated in Ethiopia but fled the persecutions of the King. Strabo,even earlier,stressed that people of Western Judea was Africiod:
But although the inhibatance are mixed up thus,the most accerdited reports in regards to the people of Jerusalem reperesents the ancestors of the present Judeans as they are called Egyptians.
The remains found at Lakish:The excavacation uncovered a mass of human bones,which was estamated to form the remains of fifteen hundred individuals..remains of 695 skulls were brought to London by the British expidition...curiously,the crania indicate a close resemblance to the population of Egypt at this time...the relationships found suggest that the population of the town in 700 B.C was entirely of Egyptian origin..they show further,that the population of lakish was probably derived from upper Egypt.James e Brunson
By inference I'd have to say some body was!!!
That is from Greek Mythology and the "Aethiopia" they were referring to isn't present day "Ethiopia". That was the term the Greeks applied to all of Black Africa. They even called Egyptians "Aethiop" at times. Just meant black skinned people and Aethiopia was applied to lands controlled/dominated by black skinned people. If you look at old maps of Africa back in the 1800s and 1700s you will see that they called most if not all of Africa Ethiopia at one point. Then in the 70s present day Ethiopia decided to use the term to refer to themselves. Before which time they were known as El Habasha or Abyssinia as it was called by the Europeans
Just to keep records straight...
In Ityopia, there exists at least two thousand year old written record of the name Ityopia. Any Ethiopian would tell you that the word was not etymologically greek. It is an Afrikan word.
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quote:Originally posted by Brada-Anansi: That Syria was once the domain of Cepheus, an Ethiopian king,Tacitus wrote that the Romans believed that the Jews originated in Ethiopia but fled the persecutions of the King. Strabo,even earlier,stressed that people of Western Judea was Africiod:
But although the inhibatance are mixed up thus,the most accerdited reports in regards to the people of Jerusalem reperesents the ancestors of the present Judeans as they are called Egyptians.
The remains found at Lakish:The excavacation uncovered a mass of human bones,which was estamated to form the remains of fifteen hundred individuals..remains of 695 skulls were brought to London by the British expidition...curiously,the crania indicate a close resemblance to the population of Egypt at this time...the relationships found suggest that the population of the town in 700 B.C was entirely of Egyptian origin..they show further,that the population of lakish was probably derived from upper Egypt.James e Brunson
By inference I'd have to say some body was!!!
That is from Greek Mythology and the "Aethiopia" they were referring to isn't present day "Ethiopia". That was the term the Greeks applied to all of Black Africa. They even called Egyptians "Aethiop" at times. Just meant black skinned people and Aethiopia was applied to lands controlled/dominated by black skinned people. If you look at old maps of Africa back in the 1800s and 1700s you will see that they called most if not all of Africa Ethiopia at one point. Then in the 70s present day Ethiopia decided to use the term to refer to themselves. Before which time they were known as El Habasha or Abyssinia as it was called by the Europeans
Just to keep records straight...
In Ityopia, there exists at least two thousand year old written record of the name Ityopia. Any Ethiopian would tell you that the word was not etymologically greek. It is an Afrikan word.
You telling me there are 2,000 year old records with the word Ityopia means nothing. 1. what are the records 2. who wrote them 3. is it before or after the population became Christians?
Anyone can say anything, but what does the data say and how are you interpreting that data? So lets begin, with the names of these records.
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quote:Originally posted by Brada-Anansi: That Syria was once the domain of Cepheus, an Ethiopian king,Tacitus wrote that the Romans believed that the Jews originated in Ethiopia but fled the persecutions of the King. Strabo,even earlier,stressed that people of Western Judea was Africiod:
By inference I'd have to say some body was!!!
you need to go to the original sources rather than regurgitate a Van Sertima slant
The Histories
By Tacitus
Written 109 A.C.E.
Translated by Alfred John Church and William Jackson Brodribb
Table of Contents
Book V
Some say that the Jews were fugitives from the island of Crete, who settled on the nearest coast of Africa about the time when Saturn was driven from his throne by the power of Jupiter. Evidence of this is sought in the name. There is a famous mountain in Crete called Ida; the neighbouring tribe, the Idaei, came to be called Judaei by a barbarous lengthening of the national name. Others assert that in the reign of Isis the overflowing population of Egypt, led by Hierosolymus and Judas, discharged itself into the neighbouring countries. Many, again, say that they were a race of Ethiopian origin, who in the time of king Cepheus were driven by fear and hatred of their neighbours to seek a new dwelling-place. Others describe them as an Assyrian horde who, not having sufficient territory, took possession of part of Egypt, and founded cities of their own in what is called the Hebrew country, lying on the borders of Syria. Others, again, assign a very distinguished origin to the Jews, alleging that they were the Solymi, a nation celebrated in the poems of Homer, who called the city which they founded Hierosolyma after their own name. Posts: 42938 | From: , | Registered: Jan 2010
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The remains found at Lakish:The excavacation uncovered a mass of human bones,which was estamated to form the remains of fifteen hundred individuals..remains of 695 skulls were brought to London by the British expidition...curiously,the crania indicate a close resemblance to the population of Egypt at this time...the relationships found suggest that the population of the town in 700 B.C was entirely of Egyptian origin..they show further,that the population of lakish was probably derived from upper Egypt.James e Brunson
By inference I'd have to say some body was!!! [/QB]
Am J Phys Anthropol. 2005 Oct;128(2):466-76. Bioarchaeological analysis of cultural transition in the southern Levant using dental nonmetric traits. Ullinger JM, Sheridan SG, Hawkey DE, Turner CG 2nd, Cooley R. Source Department of Anthropology, Ohio State University, Columbus, Ohio 43210, USA. Ullinger.1@osu.edu
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: ^Thank you lamin for introducing a little common sense. Allow me to introduce a little more:
HOW COULD ANYONE HAVE AN ACCURATE CENSUS OF AFRICA, WHEN AMERICANS CAN'T EVEN ACCURATELY CENSUS THEIR OWN MAJOR CITIES??????
Damn some of you are truly silly in trying to spread the Albino mans nonsense.
Logically then, we have to assume that since the Albino man gives Africa a one billion population, the actual population must be at least 1.5 billion, which is the figure that I use.
Arable land in the world
As one can see from the map:
African land is severely "UNDERUTILIZED".
One might then ask the question:
So why is the Albino man spreading the lie that Africans CAN'T feed themselves?
Mikey boy you have already been told that racist epithets are NOT allowed.
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So why is the Albino man spreading the lie that Africans CAN'T feed themselves?
Mikey boy you have already been told that racist epithets are NOT allowed.
Doxie dear, do try to keep up.
In ALL my posts, I refer to the Central Asian invaders by their clinical and scientific name - Albinos.
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So why is the Albino man spreading the lie that Africans CAN'T feed themselves?
Mikey boy you have already been told that racist epithets are NOT allowed.
Doxie dear, do try to keep up.
In ALL my posts, I refer to the Central Asian invaders by their clinical and scientific name - Albinos.
Mike stop being a liar. White people are NOT Asians nor are we albinos. You just use albino as a derogatory term for us out of your hatred for us.
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Bioarchaeological analysis of cultural transition in the southern Levant using dental nonmetric traits.
Ullinger JM, Sheridan SG, Hawkey DE, Turner CG 2nd, Cooley R. Source Department of Anthropology, Ohio State University, Columbus, Ohio 43210, USA. Ullinger.1@osu.edu
Sooo Lioness, let me get this straight:
With thousands-upon-thousands of skeletons available for examination, these bright Albino boys decided to do TEETH!
Okay then, just EXACTLY WHAT IS "Dental Morphology"?
The analysis of dental morphological trait variation may be used to infer past population history. Like cranial nonmetric traits, dental variants cannot be measured but are scored according to the degree of expression. The Osteoware Dental Morphology module allows fast and accurate recording of data using the trait list and protocol presented in the Buikstra and Ubelaker (1994) Standards, which is a subset of the Arizona State University Dental Anthropology System (Turner et al., 1991).
While text descriptions and images of the ASU series of reference plaques appear in the published literature (e.g. Hillson 1996), scoring dental traits from the original plaques is highly recommended. Contact the School of Human Evolution and Social Change, ASU, General Inquiries for availability: ASUDAS@asu.edu
One data entry screen streamlines accurate documentation Contextually driven scoring boxes and trait category definitions Comments field available for qualitative descriptions
The Osteoware Dental Morphology module consists of a single data entry screen with the maxillary and mandibular traits listed on the right side, and a dental arcade with contextually driven scoring boxes and trait descriptions on the left side. Selecting a trait on the right side provides ‘Help’ text and data entry boxes for each relevant tooth. Clicking the button in the upper right opens a Comments field to enter a more qualitative description of unusual traits or caveats on the documentation itself.
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Negroes this is how the Albinos come up with the Bullsh1t that they tell you!Posts: 22721 | Registered: Oct 2005
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Tukuler
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Wrong dumb bunny
It was said claiming albino origins for Euro whites is racism.
I presented sources showing the concept was invented by Euro whites themselves.
Out of three variant proposals for the origins of Euro white skin I don't particularly endorse either of them. The fact of the matter is that some of the genes that make for Euro white skin, eye, and hair colors are the same genes that make for pink to so-called "olive" complexions, blue to hazel eyes, and platinum blonde to light brown hair colors and that's a scientific fact.
My intent was to call bullshit on those falsely calling the albino proposition racist.
Your dumbass needs to ask people what they think instead of hurling accusations what your ignorant ass believes that somebody holds to be true or factual.
After playing fair and giving you the benefit of the doubt time after time you prove yourself a slimy lying snake and I have no respect for you and much less so for the idiotic regurgitations you mindlessly vomit onto these forums.
quote:Originally posted by the lioness: don't be too hard on Mike he works for albinos
also alTakruri aka Tukelur has recently signed on as an Alboinoid is a Valid Racial Catagory Enthusiast in his recent thread:
WHITES: ENDEMIC TYR+ ALBINOIDS big deal
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Not gonna go into detail about this because you can GOOGLE what I posted here on it in full but the Aithiopia Cepheus reigned over was no place other than Joppa/Yaffa/Tel Aviv in Palestine/Israel.
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quote:Originally posted by Tukuler: Not gonna go into detail about this because you can GOOGLE what I posted here on it in full but the Aithiopia Cepheus reigned over was no place other than Joppa/Yaffa/Tel Aviv in Palestine/Israel.
source for this?
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quote:Originally posted by Mike111: typeZeiss, now it is YOU who is "over generalizing".
There is a BIG difference between the BIBLICAL Hebrews, and the Habiru. The Habiru were real people, and are well documented.
You don't know what your talking about friend. DO RESEARCH. That term was applied to any number of people. I have done my research, do yours. Or not
Wow! What a succinct and enlightening answer!
Luckily I have boots on.
I have given you the name of two books and three videos you can go read and watch. You on the other hand have given me opinion. What more am I supposed to do, fly to your house and read the books to you while you doze off to sleep?
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quote:Originally posted by Brada-Anansi: Naaw you tried to paint the pic with only one brush when You have been here long enough to know you need many hues and brushes for the picture is more complex..
Israel, living in wickedness and idolatry, was warned by prophets Elijah, Elisha, and Hosea, to repent or face conquest. Prophets and Kings from Judah offered help, and invited them to return to the temple in Jerusalem. These offers they scorned, becoming ripe for destruction.
The Assyrians viciously brought that destruction.
Reconstruction of Nineveh
As we read in the Old Testament of the Assyrians conquering Israel and much of Judah, it is easy to visualize these people as they were pictured at the time in the palaces of the Assyrians. Nineveh is a rich trove of art showing the Assyrian kings and captives majestically portrayed in magnificent bas reliefs. Assyrian art is instantly recognizable because of the pictures of raw strength. Everyone is shown heavily muscled, even the animals.
"King Assurbanipal decked out for the hunts. British Museum.
Assyrian God from Nineveh wall relief. Note the muscular legs in this figure, typical of Assyrian Art.
Boston Museum of Fine Arts."
Captives were treated particularly harshly. The Geneva Convention was not in the thought process of the Assyrians, who believed in spreading fear among the surrounding enemies.
By about 900 BC, Assyria was becoming a fierce war machine, dominating the Near East for 300 years until they were conquered by the Babylonians. Centuries of warfare — as the predominant aspect of their culture — hardened them into a brutal people.
In the temples and palaces, rich with militaristic art, there are no happy scenes of banquets, dancing, feasting, or happy family scenes. All Assyrian art is centered on power.
Tilgath Pileser (also known in the Old Testament as Pul) reigned from 745-727 BC. He warred against Syria and advanced along the Mediterranean, subjugating Phoenicia and Gaza. He conquered Israel in 721 BC, removing the Israelites, and advanced on Judah. Palace art shows captives and vassals paying tribute to the kings.
Tilgath Pileser (Pul), shown in court in his palace, from an artist's reconstruction from a bas relief. 8th C. BC, Louvre
Kings’ sport was shooting lions while riding in chariots. Dying lions and lion hunts figure prominently in palace art. While people were depicted with little emotion, animals were shown with great sensitivity, as we see in this excellent relief of a dying lioness.
Someday, when we get the scriptures from the Ten Tribes, it will be interesting to hear the stories associated with the hardships they suffered under the Assyrians.
Israelite prisoners being marched out of Israel by Assyrian soldiers.
Note dead Israelites at left. From Bas Relief at Nineveh.
After the defeat of Israel, the Assyrians advanced on Judah, moving south, and conquering as they went. Watch fires were set that could be seen from one city to another, so the next city in line could see what was the state of the battle.
After the defeat of Israel, the Assyrians advanced on Judah, moving south, and conquering as they went. Watch fires were set that could be seen from one city to another, so the next city in line could see what was the state of the battle.
One of the most poignant archaeological finds related to this period is an ostracon from Lachish. Ostracon were broken pieces of fired clay or pottery. Relatively indestructible, they were used as message pads.
The Lachish Ostracon #4, found in the ruins of Lachish, ends a long message with the sad words, "and let my Lord know that we are watching for the signal fires of Lachish... for we cannot see Azekiah." Azekiah had been defeated, Lachish was next, and the giant Assyrian siege ramp is still visible. The message was never sent.
Ostracon #4 from Lachish.
After defeating Lachish, the Assyrians moved on Jerusalem in 701 BC, and laid siege to the city. They were smitten by a plague (probably bubonic) and woke up all "dead corpses." (2 Kings 18, 19.) The king, Sennacherib, returned to Assyrian, abandoning Jerusalem, where he was assassinated by two of his sons while worshiping in the Assyrian temple.
Assyrians transplanted conquered peoples to other areas in their large kingdom, rendering them relatively helpless and disoriented. Their leadership was destroyed, and they were in unfamiliar areas, under guard. Other captive peoples were moved into their vacated lands. Some original Israelites were undoubtedly still in the area of Israel, having evaded capture. Mixed with the newly transplanted people brought by the Assyrians, they intermarried and mixed religious beliefs, absorbing elements of both.
When Judah was allowed to return under the Persians they scorned these people with their false religious practices, as they were despised at the time of Christ. They became known as the Samaritans.
Source: Meridian Magazine
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Nahum, Nineveh and Those Nasty Assyrians
He cleared the Delta of the Cushites (Ethiopians) in 667/666 BC and the Cushite ruler, Taharqa, fled to No-Amon.
Isaiah 20:4 So shall the king of Assyria lead away the Egyptians prisoners, and the Ethiopians captives, young and old, naked and barefoot, even with their buttocks uncovered, to the shame of Egypt.
Can I get an, Amen?
And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the AMEN, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God; I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. ( Revelation 3:14-15 )
Amon, or Amen
(the mysterious ), an Egyptian divinity, whose name occurs in that of No-amon. ( Nahum 3:8 ) Amen was one of the eight gods of the first order and chief of the triad of Thebes. He was worshipped at that city as Amen-Ra, or "Amen the Sun."
Bibliography Information
Smith, William, Dr. "Entry for 'Amon, or Amen'". "Smith's Bible Dictionary". . 1901.
Nahum 3:9 "Ethiopia and Egypt were her strength, and it was infinite".......? lol
Napata and its Amun sanctuary remained the kingdom’s chief religious center and the premier site of all royal coronations. Well into the Common era, Jebel Barkal was thought to be the main Nubian seat of the god Amun, who conferred kingship upon the rulers of Kush – a kingship believed by its possessors to have descended, in that place, directly from the sun god Re at the beginning of time.
III. A. The Nature of Amun and the Mysteries of Jebel Barkal.(Amen)
It is clear from a complex surviving iconographic and textual record that from early Dynasty 18 the Egyptians assigned Jebel Barkal an outsized religious and political significance because of its peculiar shape. It is perhaps the unique Egyptian religious site that allows us to perceive how Egyptian religious beliefs were influenced by the natural landscape. The isolated hill evoked in the Egyptian mind the Primeval Mound of popular myth, on which Creation was thought to have taken place. “Proof” of the presence here of Amun as Creator was evident to ancient onlookers in the towering, statue-like pinnacle on its south corner (fig. 23), which, when viewed from different angles at different times of the day, suggested to them the forms of many different divine beings or aspects, all of which combined to confirm the presence and protean nature of the god, whose very name meant “Hidden.”
quote:Originally posted by typeZeiss: I have given you the name of two books and three videos you can go read and watch. You on the other hand have given me opinion. What more am I supposed to do, fly to your house and read the books to you while you doze off to sleep?
Earth to typeZeiss, look around, do you see anyone answering with what is in a book or video? That's a bullsh1ters out.
No, to be taken seriously, YOU have to tell the story, quoting from sources as necessary.
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quote:Originally posted by typeZeiss: I have given you the name of two books and three videos you can go read and watch. You on the other hand have given me opinion. What more am I supposed to do, fly to your house and read the books to you while you doze off to sleep?
Earth to typeZeiss, look around, do you see anyone answering with what is in a book or video? That's a bullsh1ters out.
No, to be taken seriously, YOU have to tell the story, quoting from sources as necessary.
*chuckle* you should live so long. Get off your lazy ass and read the books and watch the videos or not. Either way I could care less. I will not aid in your laziness
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quote:Originally posted by Brada-Anansi: That Syria was once the domain of Cepheus, an Ethiopian king,Tacitus wrote that the Romans believed that the Jews originated in Ethiopia but fled the persecutions of the King. Strabo,even earlier,stressed that people of Western Judea was Africiod:
But although the inhibatance are mixed up thus,the most accerdited reports in regards to the people of Jerusalem reperesents the ancestors of the present Judeans as they are called Egyptians.
The remains found at Lakish:The excavacation uncovered a mass of human bones,which was estamated to form the remains of fifteen hundred individuals..remains of 695 skulls were brought to London by the British expidition...curiously,the crania indicate a close resemblance to the population of Egypt at this time...the relationships found suggest that the population of the town in 700 B.C was entirely of Egyptian origin..they show further,that the population of lakish was probably derived from upper Egypt.James e Brunson
By inference I'd have to say some body was!!!
That is from Greek Mythology and the "Aethiopia" they were referring to isn't present day "Ethiopia". That was the term the Greeks applied to all of Black Africa. They even called Egyptians "Aethiop" at times. Just meant black skinned people and Aethiopia was applied to lands controlled/dominated by black skinned people. If you look at old maps of Africa back in the 1800s and 1700s you will see that they called most if not all of Africa Ethiopia at one point. Then in the 70s present day Ethiopia decided to use the term to refer to themselves. Before which time they were known as El Habasha or Abyssinia as it was called by the Europeans
Just to keep records straight...
In Ityopia, there exists at least two thousand year old written record of the name Ityopia. Any Ethiopian would tell you that the word was not etymologically greek. It is an Afrikan word.
You telling me there are 2,000 year old records with the word Ityopia means nothing. 1. what are the records 2. who wrote them 3. is it before or after the population became Christians?
Anyone can say anything, but what does the data say and how are you interpreting that data? So lets begin, with the names of these records.
The Book of Genesis tells you about this Ethiopia that gave birth to Egypt via the Nile. The source of the blue Nile is Ethiopia. Lake Tana. Blue Nile gives the silt which built and replenishes Egypt. The white Nile which comes from Uganda does not carry silt. The book of Genesis is more than 2000 years old.
Check the book of Kebra Negast, it tells you 3000 years history of Ityopia, in written ancient African script called Geez.
The Book of Enoch, a book that pre-dates the book of Genesis. It tells you about Ethiopia, this Ethiopia in the East, in the midst of sacred Mountains....
I could go on, and get even deeper or academic, but I will leave you to research and grow on your own.
After reading all the books of Babylon lie-braries, you have to learn to read the book inside of you. That is true knowledge.
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quote:Originally posted by typeZeiss: I have given you the name of two books and three videos you can go read and watch. You on the other hand have given me opinion. What more am I supposed to do, fly to your house and read the books to you while you doze off to sleep?
Earth to typeZeiss, look around, do you see anyone answering with what is in a book or video? That's a bullsh1ters out.
No, to be taken seriously, YOU have to tell the story, quoting from sources as necessary.
*chuckle* you should live so long. Get off your lazy ass and read the books and watch the videos or not. Either way I could care less. I will not aid in your laziness
He,he,he:
You really think that you're fooling someone.
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Note we are back with our old friends the Natufians and what do we know about them? that they previously inhabit the Nile valley under the Mashubian culture. just can't get away with the fact that some o dem folks were black folks.
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Note we are back with our old friends the Natufians and what do we know about them? that they previously inhabit the Nile valley under the Mashubian culture. just can't get away with the fact that some o dem folks were black folks.
Nice info. But after what I posted it was already a done deal.
However, LA asked you, and you've been nice and kind to cater. Posts: 22235 | From: האם אינכם כילדי הכרית אלי בני ישראל | Registered: Nov 2010
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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States is suspending at least $13 million of its roughly $140 million in annual aid to Mali following last month's coup in the West African nation, the State Department said on Wednesday.
The suspension affects U.S. assistance for Mali's ministry of health, public school construction and the government's efforts to boost agricultural production.
The United States, which sees Mali as an important partner in regional efforts to combat Islamic extremism, has warned that Mali's political crisis was putting the territorial integrity of the country at risk.
U.S. law bars aid "to the government of any country whose duly elected head of government is deposed by military coup or decree."
The United States announced the suspension of some aid to Mali a day after calling again on coup leaders to immediately return power to civilian authorities.
"The rest of the assistance will continue but anything that was directly going into the government programs and ministries has to be suspended," State Department spokesman Mark Toner told reporters.
Once one of the most stable democracies in West Africa, Mali has been in turmoil since the widely condemned March 22 coup that emboldened Tuareg rebels to seize half the country in their quest for a northern homeland.
They have been joined by Islamists bent on imposing sharia, Islamic law, across the whole of the moderate Muslim state, making it the latest security concern in a region battling al Qaeda agents and home-grown militant groups such as Nigeria's Boko Haram.
Mali's military rulers on Wednesday postponed a national convention to end a crisis sparked by the coup, which has led to international isolation and allowed the rebels to seize control of the northern half of the country.
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quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Back to the thread topic!
U.S. suspends $13 million in aid to Mali.
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States is suspending at least $13 million of its roughly $140 million in annual aid to Mali following last month's coup in the West African nation, the State Department said on Wednesday.
The suspension affects U.S. assistance for Mali's ministry of health, public school construction and the government's efforts to boost agricultural production.
The United States, which sees Mali as an important partner in regional efforts to combat Islamic extremism, has warned that Mali's political crisis was putting the territorial integrity of the country at risk.
U.S. law bars aid "to the government of any country whose duly elected head of government is deposed by military coup or decree."
The United States announced the suspension of some aid to Mali a day after calling again on coup leaders to immediately return power to civilian authorities.
"The rest of the assistance will continue but anything that was directly going into the government programs and ministries has to be suspended," State Department spokesman Mark Toner told reporters.
Once one of the most stable democracies in West Africa, Mali has been in turmoil since the widely condemned March 22 coup that emboldened Tuareg rebels to seize half the country in their quest for a northern homeland.
They have been joined by Islamists bent on imposing sharia, Islamic law, across the whole of the moderate Muslim state, making it the latest security concern in a region battling al Qaeda agents and home-grown militant groups such as Nigeria's Boko Haram.
Mali's military rulers on Wednesday postponed a national convention to end a crisis sparked by the coup, which has led to international isolation and allowed the rebels to seize control of the northern half of the country.
Key point is this:
quote:Mali's military rulers on Wednesday postponed a national convention to end a crisis sparked by the coup, which has led to international isolation and allowed the rebels to seize control of the northern half of the country.
Now the West is supposed to be against AlQaeda and Islamic militants. However, in this case, while I don't agree with coups and their destabilizing effects on African people, it is helping the militants. Much like the West supported the Militants in Libya. So again, this is simply part of a plan and agenda to destabilize Africa using Islamic militants and extremist mercenaries. Keep in mind that all of this goes back to the British and their alliance with the Saudis. Once the Ottomans were defeated in WWI the British decided that having Islamic Extremism was a good way to keep the Ottomans from coming back and the re-emergence of an Islamic super state. Every since then Saudi has been funding and supporting hard core Islamists and the West hasn't said a word but actively supported it. Case in point, Syria. Case in point Somalia, where Saudis allegedly supply most of the funding and of course Libya where the Saudis and Qataris funded the "rebels". And this shows how even going as far back as Islamic Spain, The Byzantine Empire and the Crusades, Muslim political elites are well known for being treacherous and back stabbing going as far to engage in alliances with Christian armies in order to preserve their own power....
And from this time period arose the double headed Eagle as a symbol of the control over both sides of the East and West:
quote:The head on the left (West) symbolizes Rome, the head on the right (East) symbolizes Constantinople. The cross and orb in the claws symbolize, respectively, spiritual and secular authority. Relief from the Ecumenical Patriarchate of Constantinople buildings.
Not coincidentally this also became the symbol of the Seljuk Turks who often called themselves the Sultanate of Rum (Rome) or eastern Rome.
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quote:Originally posted by Brada-Anansi: That Syria was once the domain of Cepheus, an Ethiopian king,Tacitus wrote that the Romans believed that the Jews originated in Ethiopia but fled the persecutions of the King. Strabo,even earlier,stressed that people of Western Judea was Africiod:
But although the inhibatance are mixed up thus,the most accerdited reports in regards to the people of Jerusalem reperesents the ancestors of the present Judeans as they are called Egyptians.
The remains found at Lakish:The excavacation uncovered a mass of human bones,which was estamated to form the remains of fifteen hundred individuals..remains of 695 skulls were brought to London by the British expidition...curiously,the crania indicate a close resemblance to the population of Egypt at this time...the relationships found suggest that the population of the town in 700 B.C was entirely of Egyptian origin..they show further,that the population of lakish was probably derived from upper Egypt.James e Brunson
By inference I'd have to say some body was!!!
That is from Greek Mythology and the "Aethiopia" they were referring to isn't present day "Ethiopia". That was the term the Greeks applied to all of Black Africa. They even called Egyptians "Aethiop" at times. Just meant black skinned people and Aethiopia was applied to lands controlled/dominated by black skinned people. If you look at old maps of Africa back in the 1800s and 1700s you will see that they called most if not all of Africa Ethiopia at one point. Then in the 70s present day Ethiopia decided to use the term to refer to themselves. Before which time they were known as El Habasha or Abyssinia as it was called by the Europeans
Just to keep records straight...
In Ityopia, there exists at least two thousand year old written record of the name Ityopia. Any Ethiopian would tell you that the word was not etymologically greek. It is an Afrikan word.
You telling me there are 2,000 year old records with the word Ityopia means nothing. 1. what are the records 2. who wrote them 3. is it before or after the population became Christians?
Anyone can say anything, but what does the data say and how are you interpreting that data? So lets begin, with the names of these records.
The Book of Genesis tells you about this Ethiopia that gave birth to Egypt via the Nile. The source of the blue Nile is Ethiopia. Lake Tana. Blue Nile gives the silt which built and replenishes Egypt. The white Nile which comes from Uganda does not carry silt. The book of Genesis is more than 2000 years old.
Check the book of Kebra Negast, it tells you 3000 years history of Ityopia, in written ancient African script called Geez.
The Book of Enoch, a book that pre-dates the book of Genesis. It tells you about Ethiopia, this Ethiopia in the East, in the midst of sacred Mountains....
I could go on, and get even deeper or academic, but I will leave you to research and grow on your own.
After reading all the books of Babylon lie-braries, you have to learn to read the book inside of you. That is true knowledge.
So your proof is the bible which is a corrupted book? Are you aware there is no archeological proof for a kingdom of Israel, a Solomon, a David, a Jesus ? What this means is, that. Book should not be used to prove history when it, itself is historically inaccurate.
As for the kebra Nagast it was not written in ge'ez, at least not originally. It is from a Coptic source and then from Coptic it was out into Arabic.
So again. Modern day Ethiopia and historic Ethiopia have nothing to do with each other. In the imagination of Christians and Rastafarians is does, but once you leave bizarro world and return to reality, the theory doesnt hold.
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quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Tukuler - I'm not doubting what you say.
I'm just asking how someone like this, got to be a Tuareg. BTW - the Tuareg leader that I saw looked just like him.
Titled on wiki "Tuareg from the Hoggar, Algeria"
Black world to Niggas in Africa - THAT'S A TURK!
Damn they're stupid!
People that don't wear dark indigo blue veils among the Tuareg in the Ahaggar are derived from the vassal castes and slaves. The fair-skinned ones are the result of intermixture with non-AFricans and especially Khorasanis and Turks from Murzuk and Zeila in the midieval period. That is at least what African manuscripts say.
Most Tuareg groups don't have so many people that look like this which is, of course, why it was put on Wikipedia. In Tuareg in Mali especially that would be rather rare.
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U.S. suspending aid to the Malian government was a bad move due to the close proximity of sleep cells in the Hausa states in Northern Nigeria. Marginalized groups like the Saharawi are likely to joint Al Queda as well to offset their marginal status. The only ally that Amnerica has in this region is Morocco which is not really definite.
I suspect the strategy of Al Queda and other Islamic extremist to going to be to use Islamicized Africans particularly in countries largely ignored by the west. Africa is in a bad perdicament.
Islamic extremism will run rampant in the Magreb and have some spill over into sahelian countries.
Other issues Africans should be concerned with are the following: China's oil/ land grab from Sudan to Angola
Egypt's growing population placing a strain upon the Nile and putting and denying other Nilotic Africa nations water rights. War with Ethiopia is impending and Egypt has a military specially trained to battle in heavily tropical areas if necessary.
In Central Africa there is a precisious mineral called Coltain which hundreds of Congolese/Central Africans die over daily. This is even a bigger problem than the blood diamond trade.
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But this Islamic extremism is nihilistic and stupid because it can go nowhere. Just killing people just for the sake of killing them and justifying such by an obscure ideology.
Just don't see how a coup could help the situation. Instead of seizing State House how about taking off those stupid French unforms and do some actual fighting.
The coup makes just saw the crisis in the North as an excuse to seize the government reins and enrich themselves. Nothing else.
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Dana - I started this thread after watching the BBC news, and saw a Tuareg leader like the mulatto above. Knowing that means trouble for Black Africans, I started this thread to inform others.
More from the BBC:
The National Movement for the Liberation of Azawad (MNLA) and Islamist Ansar Dine are the two major Tuareg groups involved in the takeover of the north of Mali.
Other small groups also say they have taken part in the fighting.
Despite having very different aims, MNLA and Ansar Dine have joined forces to fight together from time to time, including in the capture of Timbuktu - but there are serious tensions between them, Martin Vogl says.
The MNLA grouping wants independence for the Tuareg's northern homeland, which it calls Azawad.
A statement released by the MNLA said that now they are in control of the north they will stop fighting and begin their "mission of defending and securing the territory of the Azawad, for the happiness of its people".
Two important figures in the MNLA are the general secretary Bila Ag Cherif and Mohamed Ag Najim, the head of the movement's military wing.
In the ranks of the MNLA are Malian Tuareg who, while in exile in Libya, fought alongside Col Gaddafi's forces as he tried to cling to power in Libya.
Once he was toppled, they returned to Mali - well-trained and with plenty of heavy weaponry.
The other major Tuareg group is the Islamist Ansar Dine led by a renowned former Tuareg rebel leader, Iyad Ag Ghali.
The group has ties to Al-Qaeda's north Africa branch, known as Al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb.
Ansar Dine says it has not been fighting for independence - it wants to remain part of Mali but wants to introduce Sharia across the whole country, which is largely Muslim.
Who are the Tuareg?
Sometimes called the Blue People because the indigo used in some traditional robes and turbans dye their skins dark blue
Historically nomadic Berber people who live in the Sahara and Sahel regions of Libya, Algeria, Niger, Burkina Faso and Mali, which they call Azawad
When camels were introduced into the Sahara 2,000 years ago, the Tuareg became the main operators of the trans-Saharan caravan trade in commodities such as salt and gold Lost out when trade witched to the Atlantic Ocean
The Tuareg in Mali say they face discrimination because they are light-skinned and have been neglected by the government in far-off Bamako
They prefer to call themselves themselves the Kel Tamasheq or speakers of Tamasheq - their language which has its own alphabet
quote:Originally posted by Tukuler: The Kels already have their own nation. Their confederacy has lasted for centuries. The problem is no one acknowleges the Kel Confederacy and its seven sultanates whose land spans territory in the Euro colonialist carved nations of Mali, Algeria, Libya, and Niger.
All the aforenamed countries have a "Tuareg" problem. The Kels never accepted colonial rule and for them the Euro carved nations are bogus.
Mali for one will never give up the north and its strategic mineral resources and its non- Kel people look back to Songhai to legitimize their rights to the land even though Euros defined the boundaries of modern day Mali.
One solution could be for all the nations with a Kel emirate to accord official, if limited, recognition to the Kel Confederacy as a start toward negotiation. However, Kel cultural values may see verbal negotiation as inimical. They have for centuries relied on armed violence to settle land control disputes, both internally and externally.
Today's conflict is the latest in a continuing bid for dominance between Kels vs Mande & other non-Afrisan speakers documented over the last 1100 years.
Rebels
. Looking for stuff on the rebels in Niger. Will post that next.
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THE TUAREG REBELS IN NIGER: from a French blog.
The Revolt of the Blue Men "The worst thing for us is contempt." Threatened by famine, neglected by the power of Niamey, the Tuareg rebels took up arms to obtain a better distribution of wealth generated by oil production and the uranium. Report from our special correspondent in the Tenere Desert.
In the Ténéré, the legendary hospitality of Tuareg, lately, is being challenged. "In war as in war," said the cook, apologizing. His Kalashnikov is propped against a rock to throw coals on which he put his pot. As a child, the mother of erand Mohamed Moussa told him he had French blood. A noncommissioned officer of the colonial army fell, she claimed, under the spell of a beautiful young Touareg. Person does not remember his name or what he became. "If I like cooking, it's probably a little to him that I owe."
the Niger Movement for Justice (MNJ). they were the second group of Tuareg ex-military to join the ranks of the rebellion. The MNJ today boasts more than 700 fighters.
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Tukuler - Can you PLEEESE make sense of this for us!!!
In North Africa, many of these people declare themselves Berber under the banner of "Amazigh" possibly meaning "free people" or "free and noble men" (the word has probably an ancient parallel in the Roman name for some of the Berbers, "Mazices").
This has apparently so distressed one actual Berber group - the Touareg: that they are now disavowing their Berber heritage, and are instead proclaiming themselves to be ARABS!!
February 4, 2011
Touareg reject allegations of the Congress Amazigh World (Computer translation of the letter)
Link to letter
From: Mr. Mansour Mohamed Ali Ag Hudyata his capacity as Chairman of the Assembly of Mali called "Youth Society North of the Republic of Mali", rejects the allegations of the World Amazigh Congress, that the Tuareg people are Amazigh.
The Assembly of the Republic of Mali Youth North strongly rejects such nonsense and false stories claimed by Congress Amazigh World through the media that the Tuareg of Mali and Niger, are Amazigh, and stresses that this claim is false is not based on a scientific basis.
And that Mr. Belkacem Lyons specializes in chemistry who viewed this trend shameless does not have any historical background to prove this myth, but proven by all history books, trusted that the Tuareg are of Arab descent, and crafts Targi has to do with Arabic calligraphy, this is the asset Targip known since a long time immemorial, and we believe such stories would fall within the Tuareg of the elements of client-related third-party suspicious.
And thus confirm and strongly that we will not allow the Congress of the World Amazigh has nothing to do with us as an intervention in our affairs and talk about our origins, this we, children of the Tuareg in Kidal, Gao and Timbuktu, we are proud Bootanna (Mali and Niger) to which we belong, and our religion, Islam, and declare that our is to achieve security and stability, peace and development in the Sahara for the happiness of our peoples and coexistence with the sons of the tribes of the Sahara, and that this is the position of all the Tuareg, who are struggling to achieve, and to work strenuously for it in every time and place.
Mansour Mohamed Ali Ag Hudyata President of the General Assembly
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Tukuler - These are Tuareg just to the north in south Algeria. Can you explain why they are so different from those So-called Tuareg further south?
quote: Originally posted by Typezeiss: So your proof is the bible which is a corrupted book? Are you aware there is no archeological proof for a kingdom of Israel, a Solomon, a David, a Jesus ?
I agree with much of what you're saying, but there actually is extra biblical Syrio-Palestinian evidence for David and some of the other characters mentioned in the bible.
As for the Aethiopian Syrio-Palestinians, the Greco-Roman references to them are obviously mythical in nature, and hence, why there are no stand alone Greco-Roman references to large groups of self-governed settled blacks in that region (to my knowledge, surviving evidence points only to indigenous black Asian bedouins or black immigrants to various Israelite cities), without the reference itself being in some form or shape entangled with the Cepheus myth.
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Alot of the Tuareg in Mali probably have connection to nomadic Arabic Sahrawi groups in the Sahara.
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Swenet, what about the references in the writings of the Old Testament, Strabo, and Joesphus? All of the following attest to a light and dark skinned population in the ancient Levantine region.
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Swenet - Can you say specifically why you dismiss material like this, is it simply because of references to Greek mythical figures?
Tacitus: History Book 5
1. EARLY in this year Titus Caesar, who had been selected by his father to complete the subjugation of Judaea, and who had gained distinction as a soldier while both were still subjects, began to rise in power and reputation, as armies and provinces emulated each other in their attachment to him. The young man himself, anxious to be thought superior to his station, was ever displaying his gracefulness and his energy in war. By his courtesy and affability he called forth a willing obedience, and he often mixed with the common soldiers, while working or marching, without impairing his dignity as general. He found in Judaea three legions, the 5th, the 10th, and the 15th, all old troops of Vespasian's. To these he added the 12th from Syria, and some men belonging to the 18th and 3rd, whom he had withdrawn from Alexandria. This force was accompanied by twenty cohorts of allied troops and eight squadrons of cavalry, by the two kings Agrippa and Sohemus, by the auxiliary forces of king Antiochus, by a strong contingent of Arabs, who hated the Jews with the usual hatred of neighbours, and, lastly, by many persons brought from the capital and from Italy by private hopes of securing the yet unengaged affections of the Prince. With this force Titus entered the enemy's territory, preserving strict order on his march, reconnoitring every spot, and always ready to give battle. At last he encamped near Jerusalem.
2. As I am about to relate the last days of a famous city, it seems appropriate to throw some light on its origin. Some say that the Jews were fugitives from the island of Crete, who settled on the nearest coast of Africa about the time when Saturn was driven from his throne by the power of Jupiter. Evidence of this is sought in the name. There is a famous mountain in Crete called Ida; the neighbouring tribe, the Idaei, came to be called Judaei by a barbarous lengthening of the national name. Others assert that in the reign of Isis the overflowing population of Egypt, led by Hierosolymus and Judas, discharged itself into the neighbouring countries. Many, again, say that they were a race of Ethiopian origin, who in the time of king Cepheus were driven by fear and hatred of their neighbours to seek a new dwelling-place. Others describe them as an Assyrian horde who, not having sufficient territory, took possession of part of Egypt, and founded cities of their own in what is called the Hebrew country, lying on the borders of Syria. Others, again, assign a very distinguished origin to the Jews, alleging that they were the Solymi, a nation celebrated in the poems of Homer, who called the city which they founded Hierosolyma after their own name.
3. Most writers, however, agree in stating that once a disease, which horribly disfigured the body, broke out over Egypt; that king Bocchoris, seeking a remedy, consulted the oracle of Hammon, and was bidden to cleanse his realm, and to convey into some foreign land this race detested by the gods. The people, who had been collected after diligent search, finding themselves left in a desert, sat for the most part in a stupor of grief, till one of the exiles, Moyses by name, warned them not to look for any relief from God or man, forsaken as they were of both, but to trust to themselves, taking for their heaven-sent leader that man who should first help them to be quit of their present misery. They agreed, and in utter ignorance began to advance at random. Nothing, however, distressed them so much as the scarcity of water, and they had sunk ready to perish in all directions over the plain, when a herd of wild asses was seen to retire from their pasture to a rock shaded by trees. Moyses followed them, and, guided by the appearance of a grassy spot, discovered an abundant spring of water. This furnished relief. After a continuous journey for six days, on the seventh they possessed themselves of a country, from which they expelled the inhabitants, and in which they founded a city and a temple.
4. Moyses, wishing to secure for the future his authority over the nation, gave them a novel form of worship, opposed to all that is practised by other men. Things sacred with us, with them have no sanctity, while they allow what with us is forbidden. In their holy place they have consecrated an image of the animal by whose guidance they found deliverance from their long and thirsty wanderings. They slay the ram, seemingly in derision of Hammon, and they sacrifice the ox, because the Egyptians worship it as Apis. They abstain from swine's flesh, in consideration of what they suffered when they were infected by the leprosy to which this animal is liable. By their frequent fasts they still bear witness to the long hunger of former days, and the Jewish bread, made without leaven, is retained as a memorial of their hurried seizure of corn. We are told that the rest of the seventh day was adopted, because this day brought with it a termination of their toils; after a while the charm of indolence beguilded them into giving up the seventh year also to inaction. But others say that it is an observance in honour of Saturn, either from the primitive elements of their faith having been transmitted from the Idaei, who are said to have shared the flight of that God, and to have founded the race, or from the circumstance that of the seven stars which rule the destinies of men Saturn moves in the highest orbit and with the mightiest power, and that many of the heavenly bodies complete their revolutions and courses in multiples of seven.
5. This worship, however introduced, is upheld by its antiquity; all their other customs, which are at once perverse and disgusting, owe their strength to their very badness. The most degraded out of other races, scorning their national beliefs, brought to them their contributions and presents. This augmented the wealth of the Jews, as also did the fact, that among themselves they are inflexibly honest and ever ready to shew compassion, though they regard the rest of mankind with all the hatred of enemies. They sit apart at meals, they sleep apart, and though, as a nation, they are singularly prone to lust, they abstain from intercourse with foreign women; among themselves nothing is unlawful. Circumcision was adopted by them as a mark of difference from other men. Those who come over to their religion adopt the practice, and have this lesson first instilled into them, to despise all gods, to disown their country, and set at nought parents, children, and brethren. Still they provide for the increase of their numbers. It is a crime among them to kill any newly-born infant. They hold that the souls of all who perish in battle or by the hands of the executioner are immortal. Hence a passion for propagating their race and a contempt for death. They are wont to bury rather than to burn their dead, following in this the Egyptian custom; they bestow the same care on the dead, and they hold the same belief about the lower world. Quite different is their faith about things divine. The Egyptians worship many animals and images of monstrous form; the Jews have purely mental conceptions of Deity, as one in essence. They call those profane who make representations of God in human shape out of perishable materials. They believe that Being to be supreme and eternal, neither capable of representation, nor of decay. They therefore do not allow any images to stand in their cities, much less in their temples. This flattery is not paid to their kings, nor this honour to our Emperors. From the fact, however, that their priests used to chant to the music of flutes and cymbals, and to wear garlands of ivy, and that a golden vine was found in the temple, some have thought that they worshipped father Liber, the conqueror of the East, though their institutions do not by any means harmonize with the theory; for Liber established a festive and cheerful worship, while the Jewish religion is tasteless and mean.
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quote:Originally posted by ausar: Swenet, what about the references in the writings of the Old Testament, Strabo, and Joesphus? All of the following attest to a light and dark skinned population in the ancient Levantine region.
If I'm not mistaken, some of the references you seem to elude to (e.g., Strabo), are examples of what I said earlier, i.e., that such remarks are simply myths being reitorated, giving the false impression that each Greco Roman author who subscribed to that myth, independently validated/came to the conclusioon that there was an actual self governed, settled black presence in Syrio-Palestinia that can be assigned to Phoenecian or Israelite identity.
Can you be more specific about each of the sources you mentioned earlier?
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Mike111, I read the first three paragraphs, and already see it's going nowhere. Bold the text you think is the most relevant to you argument. Right now, I'm not in the mood for ''Jupiter fought Saturn this'', and ''some people say Crete that''. Don't make debating you more of a pain than it already is.
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Swenet - I see that you and typeZeiss have the same disease: "Talk a lot, but say nothing" and don't like to read. For sure, that makes both of you formidable debaters - in your own minds.
Please feel free to post on the thread topic, if you wish. By its nature, such posts will mostly be opinion, which is right up your alley.
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quote:Swenet - I see that you and typeZeiss have the same disease: "Talk a lot, but say nothing" and don't like to read. For sure, that makes both of you formidable debaters - in your own minds.
C'mon mikey boy, you know darn well the closest you ever got to proving a black Levant, was passing two broad faced/nosed MK Egyptian statues for being Syrio-Palestinians.
Oh, and the other time was when you tried to identify a set of black Egyptian priest as Palestinians, even though you were told the glyps surrounding them proved they were Egyptian natives.
Why the need to commit fraud if your case is as solid as you say it is?
The Predynastic Lower Egyptian Maadi remains showed that the inhabitants had tibia that were - on ave - 6.9 cm longer than the remains at Byblos, and the Merimde folks had even more incompatible limb lengths, compared to the same Syrio-Palestinians. That's a hell of a lot of conflicting ancestry for ya.
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You've been put to sleep already, why are you still talking? Roll over and take a nap.
Limb length proportions in males from Maadi and Merimde group them with African rather than European populations. Mean femur length in males from Maadi was similar to that recorded at Byblos and the early Bronze Age male from Kabri, but mean tibia length in Maadi males was 6.9cm longer than that at Byblos. At Merimde both bones were longer than at the other sites shown, but again, the tibia was longer proportionate to femurs than at Byblos (Fig 6.2), reinforcing the impression of an African rather than Levantine affinity.
Patricia Smith, 2002
^It should be noted that the limbs of the Pred. Egyptians had other tropical characteristics that distinguished them from their Eastern neighbours; their limbs were more slender.
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quote: Originally posted by Typezeiss: So your proof is the bible which is a corrupted book? Are you aware there is no archeological proof for a kingdom of Israel, a Solomon, a David, a Jesus ?
I agree with much of what you're saying, but there actually is extra biblical Syrio-Palestinian evidence for David and some of the other characters mentioned in the bible.
As for the Aethiopian Syrio-Palestinians, the Greco-Roman references to them are obviously mythical in nature, and hence, why there are no stand alone Greco-Roman references to large groups of self-governed settled blacks in that region (to my knowledge, surviving evidence points only to indigenous black Asian bedouins or black immigrants to various Israelite cities), without the reference itself being in some form or shape entangled with the Cepheus myth.
can you provide such evidence, such as books etc? As far as I have read there is NO proof for any of the prophets in the bible. Also, please, I don't want pictures from flickr, can you provide actual scholarly work showing proof for a King David who ruled over Israel. I should add, someone like Josephus is useless, he is well after the fact and a Jew himself, which would necessitate him perpetuating the myth.
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quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Swenet - I see that you and typeZeiss have the same disease: "Talk a lot, but say nothing" and don't like to read. For sure, that makes both of you formidable debaters - in your own minds.
Please feel free to post on the thread topic, if you wish. By its nature, such posts will mostly be opinion, which is right up your alley.
*chuckle* This is comical to say the least. You don't seem to be the brightest star in the sky. I have provided you with books by scholars and videos by scholars proving my point. You on the other hand have babbled endlessly based off of opinion.
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