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Clyde Winters
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quote:
Originally posted by Troll Patrol:
I find it rather peculiar they did not mention E-V13 in that paper. People who carried E-V13 were suppose to be Neolithic Farmers. Ironically


And then we have this:

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"Firstly, haplogroup E-M2 (former E1b1a) and haplogroup E-M329 (former E1b1c) are now united by the mutations V38 and V100, reducing the number of E1b1 basal branches to two. The new topology of the tree has important implications concerning the origin of haplogroup E1b1. Secondly, within E1b1b1 (E-M35), two haplogroups (E-V68 and E-V257) show similar phylogenetic and geographic structure, pointing to a genetic bridge between southern European and northern African Y chromosomes. Thirdly, most of the E1b1b1* (E-M35*) paragroup chromosomes are now marked by defining mutations, thus increasing the discriminative power of the haplogroup for use in human evolution and forensics."

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Within E-M35, there are striking parallels between two haplogroups, E-V68 and E-V257. Both contain a lineage which has been frequently observed in Africa (E-M78 and E-M81, respectively) [6], [8], [10], [13]–[16] and a group of undifferentiated chromosomes that are mostly found in southern Europe (Table S2). An expansion of E-M35 carriers, possibly from the Middle East as proposed by other Authors [14], and split into two branches separated by the geographic barrier of the Mediterranean Sea, would explain this geographic pattern. However, the absence of E-V68* and E-V257* in the Middle East (Table S2) makes a maritime spread between northern Africa and southern Europe a more plausible hypothesis. A detailed analysis of the Y chromosomal microsatellite variation associated with E-V68 and E-V257 could help in gaining a better understanding of the likely timing and place of origin of these two haplogroups.

--Beniamino Trombetta et al. (2010)


Reconstructing ancient mitochondrial DNA links between Africa and Europe

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3337428/pdf/821.pdf

It is intresting that population geneticist use the slave trade to explain african presence outside Africa.

Also interestingly they don't identify which genes are ancient.

The failure to accept a voluntary migration of Africans to Eurpe makes many, if not all of their conclusions suspect.

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^ agreed!
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Beautiful coin of black Greek Omo BaBa. Black African created Minoan civilization, Greek civilization, Etruscan civilization, and Roman civilization. We have to honor or ancestor by putting them back in world history.
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Beautiful coin of black Greek Omo BaBa. Black African created Minoan civilization, Greek civilization, Etruscan civilization, and Roman civilization. We have to honor or ancestor by putting them back in world history.

Not because there was an African presence in Europe in Ancient times that they created all the civilizations there. Lets leave that kind of thinking to the euronuts of the past. From what I gathered, the influence of these attested African presence still needs to be determined.
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Originally posted by mena7:
Beautiful coin of black Greek Omo BaBa. Black African created Minoan civilization, Greek civilization, Etruscan civilization, and Roman civilization. We have to honor or ancestor by putting them back in world history.

Not because there was an African presence in Europe in Ancient times that they created all the civilizations there. Lets leave that kind of thinking to the euronuts of the past. From what I gathered, the influence of these attested African presence still needs to be determined.
Except for Rome and Greece what civilizations did Europeans create?

Contemporary European civilizations are the result of Black Muslim influence in Europe. In fact the first "universities" in Europe were founded by the Black Moors.

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Its hard to tell if he is concave or toothless.

I... know.... late reply

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