Anyway back to "Niger-Congo" speakers-Egyptian connections.
Nursing Woman. From Giza: 5th Dynasty (ca. 2420-2389 B.C.E). Limestone with remains of paint. (courtesy of metmuseum)
Akan [Ghana] wood carving of a female breast-feeding a young one; not unlike the theme being communicated in the ancient Egyptian rendition above.
One of the most of famous ethnic groups in Africa are the Dogon. Their extensively detailed knowledge of astronomy cannot be explained by contemporary Western scientist. None the less the Dogon claim their origins as the descendants of exiled ancient Egyptian priest:
The Dogon sign "gono" or "gonono", written at the end of the Sigi Time (sixty years) and identical to the Egyptian "ânkh" represents God after he created the world. Ancient Egyptians also celebrated, each sixty years, a ceremony called "hn" representing the renewing of the world. The osirian rite Sâh and the Dogon Sigi are isomorphic. The relationship between AE and modern Black Africa is irrefutable.
Dogon gonono:"a 60 years time" Egypt hnn:"a 60 years time"(Budge) Dogon Sigi Egypt sâh Dogon Naporo=Osiris Egypt Npr=Osiris(E.Naville)
Voodoo Origins
4th century BC Egypt:
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Igbos of Nigeria and Ancient Kemitians of Kemet (Egypt)
by Oguejiofo Annu
The Eri creation myths of the Igbos holds that Chukwu-Okike sent down Eri and his wife Nnamaku down a ladder from the sky. He landed near the current town of Agulu Eri. From them came the sacred ancestors who founded the Igbos, Edos, Igalas, Yorubas, Junkuns, Hausas, and the rest of humanity.
According to other schools of thought, the origin of the Igbo begins with the story of the eponymous ancestor, Eri. By archeological account, in around 2345 BC in Ancient Egypt, a certain “M-Eru-ka (or Eru/Eri)” became a high priest to Pharaoh Teti.
Subsequently, as a result of dynastic tensions, M-Eru-ka let Kemit with many of his family and followers and set forth towards the south-west, where the great sea of southern Ethiopia washed the shores of Palm-tree lined beaches.
Eri as he was later called entered into the territory that was to become later day modern Nigeria. He set up many lodges across the land, wherein Kemitian Muur Sciences were studied and practised. Some elements of those sciences and wisdom still survive in mutilated forms in Nigeria of today.
In a similar vein, it has been pointed out that during the Exodus, which marked the beginning of the mass movement of the tribes of Israel, the tribe of Eri was amongst the tribe that left Egypt following the injunction from Jehova to his devotees, the Israelites (see Deuteronomy chapter 28 verses 58 – 68).
It has also been argued that some of these ancient Kemitian tribes founded settlements in the southern part of Sudan, where they established the “Nok” culture, which is similar to that of other (sun Cult) culture, like Nri, the Jukuns, and the Onaja Oboli dynasty of the Igalas, in the Northern part of Nigeria.
The main Eri group continued until the confluence of Rivers Niger and Anambara known as “Ezu-na-Omambala” and where it settled and founded the Agulu-Eri community.
Indeed, due to the calibre of its earliest founders and the sciences they set up, the network of nationalities that make up the country Nigeria, is a veritable invisible Muurish Empire about to manifest on the face of the earth.
Due to the influence of Eri and his civilization, many distinct aspects of Kemitian culture and science are found among the Igbos of Nigeria. For example, the Igbos were famous giant mound builders, constructing many structures similar to the Kemitian and Kushitic pyramides, like those that used to be at Nsude.
The religious pantheon of the Igbos and the ancient Kemitians share many similar ancestors and ancestresses many of them bearing identical names.
They shared the sun-god worship of Ra, Chukwu Ra; Kemitians were similarly fetishitic about circumcision, and menstrual periods like the Igbos. Similar hair styles, similar martial arts and self defense schools, similar social structures.
But for now, we will focus on some observed ligusitic similarities that exist between ancient Kemtian language and present day Igbo language, for many Kemitic Egyptian words yet survive in the Igbo language today. This is a current topical area of research in linguistics and history.
A small list of Ancient Egyptian words which survive in the Igbo language are as follows:
EGYPTIAN | IGBO (Onitsha and Uburu dialects used) KAKA(God) | Ka (greater, superior) Khu (to kill, death) | Nwu/Gbu (die/to kill) Em (smell) | Imi/Emi (nose, associated with smell) Bi (to become) | Bu (to become) un (living being) | Ndu (life) Feh (to go away) | Feh (to fly away) Budo (dwelling place) | Obodo/ubudo (country, dwelling place) Dudu (black image of Osiris) | Mmadu (person) Un (living person) | Ulo/Uno (living area, house) Beka (pray/confess) | Biko/Beko (to plead, please) Aru (mouth) | Onu (mouth) & kooh/Kwue (to speak) Dor (settlement) | Dor-Nor (sit down, settle) Ra -Shu (light after darkness) | La -Shu (sleep) Aru (rise) | Anu/Kulie (up, rise) Wu (rise) | KWu-ni/Kunie (rise) In- n (negation) nh-n (negation) Ma (to know) | Ma, Ma-li (to know) Se (to create) | Ke (to create) & Se (to draw) Hoo (rejoice) | Goo, ta-Goo (dance, rejoice) Omijener (deep water) | Ime-me (deep inside) Nen (the primeval water mother) | Nem (mother) Ro (talk) | Kwo (to talk) Penka (divide) Panje (break it) Ala (Land of) | Ala (Land of, ground, boundary) Amu (children) | Umu (children) Ani (ground land below) | Ani (ground land below) Ka (higher) | Ka (greater, higher, stronger, above) Pa (open) | Meghee (open) Isi (leader) | Isi (leader, head (body part), female name as in igbo: “Isioma”) Oni (AE City) | Oni-tsha (Igbo City) Ikhenaten (name of a Pharaoh) | Ikh-em (Igbo name for a male representing high power) Au-nu (Crocodile) | Anu/Anu-Ma-nu (animal, beast) Miri (water) | Miri (water) Nahasu (other Blacks) | Ahasi/Ani-hasi (Evening, night) Ak (man) | Ok-a (man) Ehn/Hen (yes, nod head) | Eh (yes, nod head) Paa/Faa (fly) | Feeh/Faa (fly) Utcha (dawn) | Uchi-chi/Utchi-chi(night) MM (among) | Imme (inside, among) W (they) | Uwe (they, them)
I have been aware of Nana Banchie Darkwa's book "The Africans who wrote the Bible", as well as other books connecting Akan people not only to the Ancient Kingdoms of Ghana, Mali and Songhai but also going as far back as Ancient Egypt. Now I have recently come across a youtube video that asserts that Ewe people migrated not only from the Ancient middle East but even further afield, from Asia! (check out -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUDrLCB0wQk). I found this to be quite interesting, especially because it was told by an African rather than not. It is not the first time I am hearing about Ewe people being linked with the Middle East (what I knew of before was a link with the Semitic peoples of the Middle East such as the 'Israelites').
Migration stories and their details are not only limited to the Akan and the Ewe but also with other groups in Ghana such as the Ga and others. Africans such as Cheik Anta Diop and Theophile Obenga have previously written about ancient connections between pre-dynastic Egypt and current African cultures.
In New York City (and elsewhere in the world), the Ausar Auset society is an esoteric group that practises a mixture of ancient (pre-dynastic) Egyptian religion as well as native African traditional practises. Their leader, Ra Un Nefer Amen (born Rogelio Alcides Straughn) appears to be very interested in forming links between Ausar Auset and West African cultures like the Akan and the Yoruba. He is apparently intimately connected with (Asante-Akyem) Agogo.
In the modern world we live in where information is in abundance, it seems to be more and more the case that "there are no more secrets". Although there is so much information available now, that which was previously only accessible to a few is now potentially accessible to anyone interested. The Internet has revolutionized information exchange, yet in spite of this it is easy to get overwhelmed with an unwanted barrage of advertisements and sometimes worse. Yet every so often, one comes across interesting bits of information, which is how I classify the above youtube video.
Here is an summarization of "The Africans who wrote the Bible" By Dr.Nana Darkwah (Akan).
Americans and Europeans assume that the Bible is about them, but the Bible is about my ancient ancestors and me…..Alex Darkwah
Modern-day Jews see the Bible as a record of their history because the King James Bible is centered on the history of Israel.
The Jewish people of Europe and America still carry African Tribal names. They carry the names of their ancestors who were Africans.
Statistically, the Lemba people from Southeast Africa are more Jewish than European Jews. In a particular Lemba Clan known as the Buba Clan, 53 percent of the males carry the unique DNA signature of Jewish priests. Males form the Lemba Tribe carry a higher incidence of the Jewish priestly DNA signature than the European and American Jewish population.
When the police have the fingerprints of a wanted man, they know the man whose prints match. The same thing can be said here.
The early Roman Catholic Church portrayed Jesus and his mother in the original Black images of the Jewish people at that time--The Black Madonna. What African tribe were they from?
The time period of the early Catholic Church is closer to the Jews leaving Africa and going to Europe than the Renaissance Painters who painted Jesus White.
What Europe did not count on was that Africans would still know their past.
Darkwah states that ancient Egypt was geographically in Africa and that so called European "experts" do not know the Ancient Egyptian story because they are not familiar with African tribal names. They do not have the linguistic and cultural backgrounds to identify Egyptian names and have simply transposed the African names of people and places in Ancient Egyptian history into European languages to make it possible for them to claim expertise. Darkwah traces the ancient past of African tribes from the Middle East through Ancient Egypt to inner Africa. He reveals the African tribe that historians gave the fictitious names the Sumerians, Akkadians, and the African Tribes that were the Ancient Egyptians.
Africans are the indigenous Native Hebrews (Jews). The greatest secret of Africa has never been told, and Christian Europe has been seeking to conceal for the past two thousand years is the African origin of the concepts, doctrines, sacramental practices of religion, and the documents that became the foundations of Christianity in Europe. Did you know that the names of Abraham, Isaac, Esau, and Jacob were all derived from African tribal words and names? Did you know that the earliest “Hebrew” name for God, Adonai, was derived from an African tribal word? Did you know that other name of God, Yahweh, was derived from an African tribal God? ... Did you know that the names of the authors of the Old Testament are not “Hebrew” or “Jewish” names, but transposed African tribal names? Christian Europe has never known these because it has never known the African linguistic and cultural side of the biblical story.
The indigenous African tribal name of the most popular Ancient Egyptian king the west was Tutu Ankoma—not Tutankhamun. Not only do we know the indigenous African tribal name of this Ancient Egyptian king, but we also know where the modern dynasty of his ancient dynasty is today. We know in Africa that the Ancient Egyptian king who built the middle pyramid in Giza was called Akufu and not Khufu as the "experts" have told us. We also know that his two sons completed the procession of pyramids and placed a lion in the front of the procession. These sons were Dade Afre and not Djedefra as the experts transposed this name; and his brother was Ochere Afre and not Chephren as the experts have told us. The modern dynasty of these ancient kings is the Akuapem Dynasty that can be found today in the Eastern Region of Ghana. Conservatives, liberals, and all in between can go to check these people out and verify the royal names among these people.
The book is about the Africans who wrote the Bible as well as Ancient Egypt. It is the untold story of the African tribes that were the Ancient Egyptians. It is the untold story of the people from these African tribes that left Ancient Egypt for it to become the biblical Exodus. It is about the untold story of these people that later went to Europe to become the Jews and Hebrews. It is about untold story of the Africans who actually wrote the documents of the Bible before Afrim (Jewish) scholars translated these documents for the Greeks in Ancient Egypt and claimed that their people in Israel wrote those documents.
We in Africa even know the indigenous African tribal name of the people of the Exodus before they went to Europe to become the Jews and Hebrews. A review of a DNA study of Jewish people African tribes discovered one of the African tribes from which some of the people of the Exodus originated. Check it out in the New York Times of May 9, 1999. What does this prove? It proves the Ancient Egyptian and biblical stories were all Black people’s stories.
The Ancient Egyptians were Black people and their modern descendants are alive and well in Africa. Real evidence of the modern descendants of the Ancient Egyptians in the tribes of Africa and the language and culture these people left behind in Ancient Egypt is the most powerful evidence there is about the Black racial origin of the Ancient Egyptians.
In the 1960's and 1970's there were Jewish scholars who were secretly traveling around Africa researching African Tribes to find out from which tribe they belonged. They studied the Akan Religion of the Asante people to find out the similarities between Judaism and Christianity. The word Israel was derived from an African Tribal meaning. Most "Jewish" people still carry their African Tribal names of origin.
The Sinai peninsula is clearly in Africa and is where the Israelites claim to receive their oral and written law. Geologically speaking all of the adjacent Arabian peninsula clear up to Syria is part of the African continent. The Great Rift Valley extends from Mozambique to Syria. The continental drift of tectonics shows the Arabian plate breaking off from the continent and colliding into the Asian plate to create the mountain ranges of Turkey and Armenia (University of Moscow).
Genetic evidence below is further confirmation of this Akan/NigerCongo-Jewish link
Previous genetic studies have suggested a history of sub-Saharan African gene flow into some West Eurasian populations after the initial dispersal out of Africa that occurred at least 45,000 years ago. However, there has been no accurate characterization of the proportion of mixture, or of its date. We analyze genome-wide polymorphism data from about 40 West Eurasian groups to show that almost all Southern Europeans have inherited 1%-3% African ancestry with an average mixture date of around 55 generations ago, consistent with North African gene flow at the end of the Roman Empire and subsequent Arab migrations. Levantine groups harbor 4%-15% African ancestry with an average mixture date of about 32 generations ago, consistent with close political, economic, and cultural links with Egypt in the late middle ages. We also detect 3%-5% sub-Saharan African ancestry in all eight of the diverse Jewish populations that we analyzed. For the Jewish admixture, we obtain an average estimated date of about 72 generations. This may reflect descent of these groups from a common ancestral population that already had some African ancestry prior to the Jewish Diasporas....We estimate that the average date of the mixture of 72 generations (~2,000 years assuming 29 years per generation [30]) is older than that in Southern Europeans or other Levantines. The point estimates over all 8 populations are between 1,600–3,400 years ago, but with largely overlapping confidence intervals. It is intriguing that the Mizrahi Irani and Iraqi Jews—who are thought to descend at least in part from Jews who were exiled to Babylon about 2,600 years ago [39], [40]—share the signal of African admixture.
The Lemba have already been discussed on this board numerous times. This map below represents the reentrance into Africa by the Hebrew groups such as the Bantu-Semites Lemba and the Ethiopic/Horner-Semites the Amharic Ethiopians by the yellow arrow (G):
Back to the Akan and other Hebrew/Egyptian groups of West Africa. The colonial Europeans knew full well who the people in West Africa were as indicated by these old map lables:
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The hostilities (in the form of childish, irrelevant, trolling comments) displayed to those viewing this thread by some of these "veteran" members of Egyptsearch should wake some of you up. Why is there hostility towards the spreading of the African history showing the indisputable cultural/religious connections between highlighted "Niger-Congo" speakers and the Nile Valley? Why are the people on this forum trying so hard to deny the existence of this distinct African group that is the parent of African Americans and other Western Hemisphere blacks, by propagating Western devised bullshit concepts of African identity? The denial of the existence and legacy of the "Niger-Congo" speaking, M2-lineage carrying, "negroid" African populations can only be brought about by extreme self hate or some of these individuals are double agents (hence the real wolves in sheep clothing).
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Emphasis mine. Lower Nubians and Egyptians in yellow, West/Central Africans in blue. The Tigre sample in red, and the centroid of the Jebel Moya sample was not highlighted. Screen taken from Irish 2006.
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Source?? or BS dogma? And please, no "pictures"
:“You will never be able to live here in peace, because you left here black and came back white” (1952)
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quote:Originally posted by zarahan- aka Enrique Cardova: Akachi says: One of our last stands against the Yacbus (white people) put on by our warriors.
^^Would said "Yacbus" be the creations of the legendary evil scientist "big head Yacub" of Black Muslim lore?
Was Yacub negro, or "negroid"? Did he speak Niger-Congo?
John of Patmos is the name given to the author of the Book of Revelation, the apocalyptic text forming the final chapter of the New Testament. The text of Revelation states that the author is called John and that he lives on the Greek island of Patmos, where by some, he is considered to be in exile as a result of anti-Christian persecution under the Roman emperor Domitian. Traditionally, the John who authored Revelation is considered to be John the Apostle, author of all the Johannine works, that is the Gospel of John, the first, second, and third epistles of John, as well as Revelation. However, many modern scholars agree that Revelation was written by a separate, otherwise unknown, author, to whom they have given the name John of Patmos
quote: John is linked, by language and action, to the Bible's John of Patmos. But he also plays the role of Jacob in the doubly suggestive wrestling match with Elisha. To wrestle with the Lord's anointed (Elisha has been saved) is a portentous experience for John—it is a clear parallel to Jacob's wrestling match with the angel of the Lord in the Old Testament. Yet the struggle is also colored particularly by the attraction John harbors for Elisha; thus, its overtones are as erotic as they are religious. GO TELL IT ON THE MOUNTAIN ---James Baldwin
So the Black Muslims believe that evil "big head" Yakub was involved in all this? How come he black? Could it be that its not really the white man to blame but negro Yakub?
^And yet some say the white man is to blame..
What is weird lioness is that up above, Akachi also wants to lay claim to the Hebrew angle. He says- quote:
"Africans are the indigenous Native Hebrews (Jews)"
Zounds! Sounds like another "knowledge drop" from Yakub.. First Akachi argued at length for the "true negro" character of Africans. Now they be Hebrews..
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quote:Originally posted by zarahan- aka Enrique Cardova:
What is weird lioness is that up above, Akachi also wants to lay claim to the Hebrew angle. He says- quote:
"Africans are the indigenous Native Hebrews (Jews)"
Zounds! Sounds like another "knowledge drop" from Yakub.. First Akachi argued at length for the "true negro" character of Africans. Now they be Hebrews..
So the Black Muslims believe that evil "big head" Yakub was involved in all this? How come he black? Could it be that its not really the white man to blame but negro Yakub?
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The predominant view of most Egyptsearch members is the original Hebrews were bearded Africans with nappy hair.
The black scientist Yacub created the white man by selective breeding of a gene that black people carry. So yes, a black man is responsible for the creation of white people
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quote:Originally posted by zarahan- aka Enrique Cardova:
"Africans are the indigenous Native Hebrews (Jews)"
Hebrews were nothing more than exiled Egyptians (rebels) who settled into neighboring Canaan. I wouldn't expect for you to know that because you are the dumb **** who insinuates through your half ass quote factory that "Asiatic" and black are mutually exclusive. Then again I have been having my second and third thoughts about you and your mind numbing Hamitic hypothesis **** that you used to spam in every fucking thread.
quote:First Akachi argued at length for the "true negro" character of Africans. Now they be Hebrews..
The fact that you cite Christopher Ehret more than Diop and Obenga (who are no where to hardly found in any of your Hamitic spam) makes me think either that you are an extreme self hating Negro or....You can be a double agent kingpin! You pretend to care about the cause and interest of African American (the main fighters of this cause for now) relations to Africa and specifically the Nile Valley, but instead you champion every group who are not the ancestors of that "forbidden group" of Africans descendants ("Niger-Congo speakers) as a way to promote self hate within this group. Then when West Africa is finally discussed 3/4's of the time its' about the "Ingenuousness" of the gracile facial features of the Fulani as opposed to the other 99% of West Africans who look like the Ewe or Yoruba. Or if Bantu Africans are discussed the Tutsi are the most prevalent (with Paul Kagame being the standard look).
It has been you and your selected literature that promotes this bullshit notion that the ancient Egyptians and broad African facial features ("Negroid") were somehow mutually exclusive. The fact that UNESCO found the broad featured "Negroid" element to be the most prevalent, is no where in your citations, but why?
The only that you can do is bitch about the word " Negroid". Rather than reading through the lines of what we know from later work that these people mentioned in the citation above were all black Africans (hence indigenous African diversity)
you have a fucking PC meltdown. You do this because you are a double agent and you must obfuscate this common sense ****.
That is your agenda! This is why you and the other double agents are shitting on yourselves because I am presenting these other untainted ( straight from fucking African scholars) forms of evidence (pictures, cultural, religious, linguistic)! This is common sense evidence and it kills you double agent fuckers, because it blows past whatever skewed and scattered pieces of Western data that you think is supposed to..."stump me" I guess. The Narrative is what you fuckers can't refute, and you (Zaharan) knew before most others did (remember I kicked your ass on this and you ran and created a new thread just like Swenet had to do here). If you want to do that to yourself here then so be it!
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Source? Is this made up BS by so called "black Jews"? Newspaper clipping?, magazine, date time, radio or tv station. Anything that can be followed up on? More Internet folklore ? I don't have a problem with "some" of what you are posting. But back up what you are posting here. Put up or shut up. There is no genetic evidence that west Africans having Jewish ancestry, although the Lemba are true Jews and the indigenous population of the Levant and southern Arabia are blacks.
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quote:Originally posted by xyyman: Source?? or BS dogma? And please, no "pictures"
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One of his old interviews clips. If I come across it I will post it.
quote:I don't have a problem with "some" of what you are posting.
Am I supposed to give a **** about you or something? You haven't said **** since the first fucking page, so sit back peanut gallery.
quote: But back up what you are posting here. Put up or shut up.
As far as I can see every major point is, so what specifically are you talking about?
quote:There is no genetic evidence that west Africans having Jewish ancestry
Clearly there was an EXODUS of the true Hebrews ("Niger-Congo" speaking African populations) from the Levant (Israel/Canaan). WTF is "Jewish" DNA anyway? I know of a specific marker that is ascribed to "Jews", but the most pivotal fact arguing against this "Jewish" identity of Ashkenazi Jews is that those Bantu-Semites in South Africa (the Lemba) have MORE of this marker than those fake ass white Jews in Israel today. Interesting I just provided a study that proved that all "Jewish" sub groups have the M2 lineage, which ironically dates back to 32 generations (around 2,000 years) ago. Why do all Jewish subgroups who suppositely once all lived in Israel have a common M2 lineage dating back to their supposed dispersal from the region? Quit being scared of being wrong, it stops the process of THINKING !
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quote: Originally posted by Akachi: you ran and created a new thread just like Swenet had to do here
You made me run? Using what data? You mean with the source you posted which states that the occurrence of the true negro type in Ancient Egypt is at 2% or lower, and that this type has nothing to do with the native proto-Egyptians and lower Nubians? This is from YOUR OWN SOURCE.
The authors are always at pains to point out that the pure negro element appears to have been minute in the groups analysed; two skeletons in a hundred, for example, at Naga-ed-Der in early predynastic times, and one in fifty-four in Lower Nubia (Massoulard, 1949, p396 and pp410-411), although all anthropologists concur in acknowledging the existence of a "negroid" component in the mixed population which constitutes the primitive Egyptian "ethnic group", at least from neolithic times onwards. --The peopling of ancient Egypt and the deciphering of Meroitic script
You Afroloons are something else. It takes a very special type of mentally retarded klutz to cite five self-defeating sources in a row (Holiday, Irish, Ricaut, Unesco/Sheik Anta Diop, Brace) and to somehow construe that as "making someone run".
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quote: Originally posted by Akachi: you ran and created a new thread just like Swenet had to do here
You made me run? Using what data? You mean with the source you posted which states that the occurrence of the true negro type in Ancient Egypt is at 2% or lower, and that this type has nothing to do with the native proto-Egyptians and lower Nubians? This is from YOUR OWN SOURCE.
The authors are always at pains to point out that the pure negro element appears to have been minute in the groups analysed; two skeletons in a hundred, for example, at Naga-ed-Der in early predynastic times, and one in fifty-four in Lower Nubia (Massoulard, 1949, p396 and pp410-411), although all anthropologists concur in acknowledging the existence of a "negroid" component in the mixed population which constitutes the primitive Egyptian "ethnic group", at least from neolithic times onwards. --The peopling of ancient Egypt and the deciphering of Meroitic script
You Afroloons are something else. It takes a very special type of mentally retarded klutz to cite four self-defeating sources in a row (Holiday, Irish, Ricaut, Unesco/Sheik Anta Diop) and somehow construe that as "making someone run".
Your highlights defeat my point how? Firstly this exert is highlighting a specific Pre-Dynastic site ("Naga-ed-Der") not the Pre-Dynastic or Dynastic populations as a whole. The screen shot that I took from the book states their "overall" ethnic composition percentages, and "Negroid" constituted the largest ethnic percentage of all other African groups. You have never addressed this fact. It pretty much goes without saying that UNESCO's numbers are collective and conclusive, as opposed to your "2% Negroid" study which only used a few selected Pre-Dynastic sites. If only 2% of Pre-Dynastic Egyptians were "Negroid" then why does this study characterize this period's key sites as "Negroid"?
On this basis, many have postulated that the Badarians are relatives to South African populations (Morant, 1935 G. Morant, A study of predynastic Egyptian skulls from Badari based on measurements taken by Miss BN Stoessiger and Professor DE Derry, Biometrika 27 (1935), pp. 293–309.Morant, 1935; Mukherjee et al., 1955; Irish and Konigsberg, 2007). The archaeological evidence points to this relationship as well. (Hassan, 1986) and (Hassan, 1988) noted similarities between Badarian pottery and the Neolithic Khartoum type, indicating an archaeological affinity among Badarians and Africans from more southern regions. Furthermore, like the Badarians, Naqada has also been classified with other African groups, namely the Teita (Crichton, 1996; Keita, 1990).
Nutter (1958) noted affinities between the Badarian and Naqada samples, a feature that Strouhal (1971) attributed to their skulls possessing “Negroid” traits . Keita (1992), using craniometrics, discovered that the Badarian series is distinctly different from the later Egyptian series, a conclusion that is mostly confirmed here. In the current analysis, the Badari sample more closely clusters with the Naqada sample and the Kerma sample. However, it also groups with the later pooled sample from Dynasties XVIII–XXV. -- Godde K. (2009) An Examination of Nubian and Egyptian biological distances: Support for biological diffusion or in situ development? Homo. 2009;60(5):389-404.
Not only are the "Negroid" characteristics of these key Pre-Dynastic Egyptian groups commented on, but even the undeniable cultural relationship that these Pre-Dynastic "Negroid" Egyptian populations had with "Negroid" Niger-Congo (Bantu) speakers. I thought that you said that the reference to "Negroid" in all of these studies somehow doesn't equate to the "Negroid" populations of Sub Saharan-Saharan Africa? If this is really the case then please explain why on top of this anthropological and archaeological evidence, the Pre-Dynastic populations of ancient Egypt also suffered from a blood disease specific to "Niger-Congo" speaking "Negroid" populations.
1999 May-Jun
Dipartimento di Biologia Animale e dell'Uomo, Universitŕ degli Studi di Torino.
"[I]We conducted a molecular investigation of the presence of sicklemia in six predynastic Egyptian mummies (about 3200 BC) from the Anthropological and Ethnographic Museum of Turin. Previous studies of these remains showed the presence of severe anemia, while histological preparations of mummified tissues revealed hemolytic disorders."
All of this evidence conclusively points to the overwhelming presence of this African group dominating along the Nile Valley during ancient times:
Original homeland of the Bantu up to 1500 A.D
Dark shading: Possible ultimate origin of the "Niger-Congo" speakers
Cross shading: Area of "Niger-Congo" expansion into Egypt:
Bantu Migration Routes from Cush and the Island of Meroe
You bolding the point which points to ethnic diversity of ancient Egypt is just a strawman attempt on your part (among other sad **** that you have done throughout this thread; like editing your entire post after I quickly annihilate your main points) to stay alive in this. Have I not posted the article which proves that Niger-Congo populations and Ethiopic populations (both E bearing brother populations) followed the same damn migration (the so called "Afro-Asiatic" migration). Do you lack the common sense to deduce that this dual migration brought different types of black Africans (hence "indigenous African diversity") wherever they settled. I do however assert that the "Negroid" element (or "Nargas/N_G_R/Pharaohs/"niggas") were the dominant ethic group among these Africans (which later included Nilotes from the drying Central Sahara). Here's why I assert that the "Nargas"/"Niggas" were the dominant ethnic grouping of Africans:
90% of Pharonic art depicts our group of Africans.
Common sense...just try to refute it!
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quote: Originally posted by Akachi: Your highlights defeat my point how? Firstly this exert is highlighting a specific Pre-Dynastic site ("Naga-ed-Der") not the Pre-Dynastic or Dynastic populations as a whole.
Lying imbecile. The "exert [sic]" distinguishes "negroid" from "negro" and states that the latter was only encountered in the predynastic population at a rate of 2%.
The authors are always at pains to point out that the pure negro element appears to have been minute in the groups analysed [...] although all anthropologists concur in acknowledging the existence of a "negroid" component in the mixed population which constitutes the primitive Egyptian "ethnic group", at least from neolithic times onwards --The peopling of ancient Egypt and the deciphering of Meroitic script
The "exert" only mentions the Naga ed Deir sample as an example that proves the point. Nowhere does it say that the Naga ed Deir population was atypical.
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Hebrews were nothing more than exiled Egyptians (rebels) who settled into neighboring Canaan.
OK so based on your "Yacubist" "knowledge" people of the Hebrew culture are really Egyptians.. But earlier you said the Hebrew were Africans, who in turn are true negro. So Hebrews are then true Niger-Congo negroes who migrated to Caanan? Is this like your mystical "fleeing negroes" who bring civilization to the rest of Africa circa the New Kingdom Assyrian takeover?
I have been having my second and third thoughts about you and your mind numbing Hamitic hypothesis
Actually its you who keep pushing a version of a Hamitic Hypothesis, with your laughable true negro approach.
he fact that you cite Christopher Ehret more than Diop and Obenga (who are no where to hardly found in any of your Hamitic spam) makes me think either that you are an extreme self hating Negro or....You can be a double agent kingpin!
Would these "double agents" be in the employ of your "Yakub"? They seem to be everywhere with dey "tricknology.."
It has been you and your selected literature that promotes this bullshit notion that the ancient Egyptians and broad African facial features ("Negroid") were somehow mutually exclusive.
Laughable nonsense. Your hysterical chirping bout "doube agents" and "Yakub" only exposes how limited your knowledge is. Trying to cover your incompetence with wild charges only exposes you further.
Rather than reading through the lines of what we know from later work that these people mentioned in the citation above were all black Africans (hence indigenous African diversity) Gee, did you just come to the conclusion that they all part of indigenous African diversity Captain Obvious?
nd you (Zaharan) knew before most others did (remember I kicked your ass on this and you ran and created a new thread just like Swenet had to do here).
hahahahhahahahhhhhhhhhhhh.... rrrrrigggghttttttttt.. Dude long before you showed up we have been hammering EUrocentrics, hamitic Hypotheses, and much else. Your hysterical charges that everyone who disagrees with you is a "double agent" is beyond laughable..
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quote:Originally posted by xyyman: Source? Is this made up BS by so called "black Jews"? Newspaper clipping?, magazine, date time, radio or tv station. Anything that can be followed up on? More Internet folklore ? I don't have a problem with "some" of what you are posting. But back up what you are posting here. Put up or shut up. There is no genetic evidence that west Africans having Jewish ancestry, although the Lemba are true Jews and the indigenous population of the Levant and southern Arabia are blacks.
quote:Originally posted by Akachi:
quote:Originally posted by xyyman: Source?? or BS dogma? And please, no "pictures"
:“You will never be able to live here in peace, because you left here black and came back white” (1952)
Strangely, he said earlier that "Hebrews were nothing more than exiled Egyptians (rebels) who settled into neighboring Canaan."
So it seems these Hebrews were true Niger-Congo negroes who migrated to Caanaan. But his graphic up above says European Jews are nothing more than "Hebrew speaking gentiles." If the Jews are exiled Egyptians who in turn we are told are "really" true Niger- Congo negroes, then the chain of logic laid out by "Yacubist knowledge" demonstrates that European Jews are "really" negroes. Carrramba! There go your black Jewz rigjht there..
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Niger-Congo populations and Ethiopic populations (both E bearing brother populations) followed the same damn migration (the so called "Afro-Asiatic" migration).
Notice how he is shifting the ground and shifting his definitions. Earlier he asserted the primacy of the "Niger-Congo" types. Now when debunked on numerous counts, he works in "Ethiopic" types, hoping to cover his earlier failures.
Notice something even more curious. He says the Niger Congo folk and the Ethiopic folk followed the same damn "Afro-Asiatic" migration. But his migration route map shifts now to the Americas. Since when is the movement of black people to the Americas part of an 'Afro-Asiatic" migration?
I do however assert that the "Negroid" element (or "Nargas/N_G_R/Pharaohs/"niggas") were the dominant ethic group among these Africans (which later included Nilotes from the drying Central Sahara).
Terminology shifts again to a more "hood" flava.. i.e. "the niggas."
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quote:Originally posted by Akachi: Your highlights defeat my point how?
Because they demonstrate that you're habitually full of sh!t and have a 3rd grade reading comprehension level, like your boy Floyd Mayweather. According to the author of the Unesco document, your own favourite nitpicked source:
This type, therefore, would appear to be African in origin without being 'Negro' in the usual sense. Indeed, even those Egyptologists who are convinced of the essentially African nature of Egyptian civilization stress the fact that the population which founded this civilization was not 'Negro' (Naville, 1911, p. 199; Bissing, 1929, Frankfort, 1950). --The peopling of ancient Egypt and the deciphering of Meroitic scriptPosts: 8785 | From: Discovery Channel's Mythbusters | Registered: Dec 2009
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One of his old interviews clips. If I come across it I will post it.
Thought so...BSing. Dogma! Sign of a "follower"
quote:? You haven't said **** since the first fucking page, so sit back peanut gallery.
I haven't said anything because I am trying, one, to profile you, and two I agree with SOME of the things you posted.
[QUOTE] But back up what you are posting here. Put up or shut up.
As far as I can see every major point is, so what specifically are you talking about?
quote:There is no genetic evidence that west Africans having Jewish ancestry
Clearly there was an EXODUS of the true Hebrews ("Niger-Congo" speaking African populations) from the Levant (Israel/Canaan).
More BS from you. Agreed Many Jews carry M2, but they also carry M-35 and J1. M2 is NOT determinant of Jewry.
Agreed the Lemba carry more of the "priestly" Cohen marker.(J1)*
WTF is "Jewish" DNA anyway? I know of a specific marker that is ascribed to "Jews", but the most pivotal fact arguing against this "Jewish" identity of Ashkenazi Jews is that those Bantu-Semites in South Africa (the Lemba) have MORE of this marker than those fake ass white Jews in Israel today. Interesting I just provided a study that proved that all "Jewish" sub groups have the M2 lineage, which ironically dates back to 32 generations (around 2,000 years) ago. Why do all Jewish subgroups who suppositely once all lived in Israel have a common M2 lineage dating back to their supposed dispersal from the region? Quit being scared of being wrong, it stops the process of ! [/QB]
Scared? You kidding, right? I own this! I acknowledge you have some knowledge. Ain't nothing to me. But don't fugkhup! It is that simple. I only step in when BS is being posted. Like that Nasser BS you posted and that nonsense of West Africans being Jews. And M2 being a jew lineage all utter nonsense whcih yu cannot prove!! Posts: 12143 | From: When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable | Registered: Jun 2007
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All that you have posted with pic spam is AEian is an African culture. No one here disputes that.
But provide proof it is Bantu, the language(AE) is Afrasian as far as I know.
But language is not my forte
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1. You lied about Nasser 2. You are BSing. AE is NOT Bantu language. 3. West Africans are NOT Jews. M2 is not Jewish.
I agree that AEians are a mixture of "stereotypical Negro' and North African East African types. So called Negroids.
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quote:Originally posted by zarahan- aka Enrique Cardova: OK so based on your "Yacubist" "knowledge" people of the Hebrew culture are really Egyptians.. But earlier you said the Hebrew were Africans, who in turn are true negro. So Hebrews are then true Niger-Congo negroes who migrated to Caanan?
Are you really not at all familiar with the general history this subject? Yes the ancient Hebrews were ancient Egyptian rebels who fled Egypt with Moses (a rebel) into what is now Israel to follow Akenathan's unpopular monotheist religion.
You mock the idea of "Negroid" Africans being apart of this Hebrew migration, but you somehow acknowlege that the Bantu-Semites of South Africa known as the Lemba have verified their specific oral history which traces this migration. The Lemba while Bantu speakers who look indistinguishable from their "Negroid", Bantu speaking neighbors are mostly comprised of haplogroup J ("Eurasian"):
you also forget that Amharic speaking Ethiopians whom are the typically the only ones noted to have reenteterd Africa through their migration from Yemen:
and again this is the migration that these Hebrew Africans took back into the areas of their respective groups in Africa shown in the yellow (letter G):
If the Bantu-Semite speaking, "Negroid", Hebrew tribe known as the Lemba look the way that they do, shouldn't common fucking sense inform you that your mocking scenario is actually true? Then again common sense is a factor..
quote:Originally posted by zarahan- aka Enrique Cardova: Is this like your mystical "fleeing negroes" who bring civilization to the rest of Africa circa the New Kingdom Assyrian takeover?
Who in the **** is the rest of Africa? There was a migration of our people into equatorial Africa you dumbass. Did I not school your ass on the populating of West Africa in our previous discussion? That the few settlements found in that region prior to 500 BC were of the Mande speakers who established the Saharan West African civilizations of Dhar Tichit and later ancient Ghana.
quote:Originally posted by zarahan- aka Enrique Cardova: Gee, did you just come to the conclusion that they all part of indigenous African diversity Captain Obvious?
No you dumb mofo. I'm pointing out how your sneaky double agent ass with your PC persona has being trying to obscure the distinct identity of the "Niger-Congo" speaking "Negroid" populations of Africa. Any mention of this group and the first thing that you do is say "well not all Africans look like that" as though broad features is something to be ashamed of. You have been promoting the notion that any connection that our group has to the Nile Valley has to come through an arbitrary relationship (based on "Africanity") with some African populations with gracile features.
quote:Originally posted by zarahan- aka Enrique Cardova: If the Jews are exiled Egyptians who in turn we are told are "really" true Niger- Congo negroes, then the chain of logic laid out by "Yacubist knowledge" demonstrates that European Jews are "really" negroes. Carrramba! There go your black Jewz rigjht there..
Yeah it's called a Jew Fro:
This M2 lineage admixture came from Moses and his black Hebrew followers who lead the savage,dog loving, white, people out of the caves of the Caucus mountains around 2,000 BC (when they went on their World rampage destroying existing black civilizations). Those followers of Moses civilized ways became the white Jews, and became the enemies of the gentile white cave people who hated black people for putting their trouble making asses in the caves in the first place.
quote:Originally posted by zarahan- aka Enrique Cardova: Notice how he is shifting the ground and shifting his definitions. Earlier he asserted the primacy of the "Niger-Congo" types. Now when debunked on numerous counts, he works in "Ethiopic" types, hoping to cover his earlier failures.
I have been stating that "Ethiopic"/"Horner" Africans were apart of the initial migration north into Egypt and eventually into the "Middle East". In fact the article that I posted earlier (which is largely the basis for this stance) explains this migration quite simply. It's a shame that your reading comprehension is that fucked up that you couldn't see that the article's main point is a dual migration of those two distinct types of black Africans.
quote:Originally posted by zarahan- aka Enrique Cardova: But his migration route map shifts now to the Americas. Since when is the movement of black people to the Americas part of an 'Afro-Asiatic" migration?
Zaharan wtf are you talking about? You really have no fucking clue what you're against do you? The maps showing the arrows to the Americas is of the transatlantic shipping routes, and that was to relay the relationship that New World blacks and their subsequent Niger-Congo population base has with the ancient Nile Valley. I mean I honesty didn't think that it is was that hard to comprehend.
That is what the pharaoh was called dumbass...HENCE OUR FUCKING LEGACY!
The "Nargar" serpent comes about through your third eye (pineal gland), which is the organ that produces melanin (the stuff that makes you black) which is the extra form of intelligence that the ancient World (through the "niggas") was enlightened with:
This is how you know for sure that the ancient Egyptians were black people!
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The "Nargar" serpent comes about through your third eye (pineal gland), which is the organ that produces melanin (the stuff that makes you black)
The pineal gland doesn't produce melanin
look it up.
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Firstly (tehe) how in the **** would you know? Albinos do not have functioning pineal glands (window to your soul), hence they you all are soulless:
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Your brain and body can’t function without Black Melanin! Few people know what Melanin, the pigment that colors the skin & hair, is found in almost every organ of the body and is necessary in order for the brain and nerves to operate, the yes to see, and the human body to reproduce! At the core of your brain is found the “locus coeruleus,” a structure that is BLACK because it contains large amounts of (neuro) Melanin which is essential for it to operate! In fact, all the most crucial brain structures are heavily melanized! Melanin in the brain increases from the lower primates and reaches its peak in the BLACK HUMAN. “All humans possess this Black internal brain evidence of their common Black African Origin. The All Black neuromelanin nerve tract of the brain is profound proof that the human race is a Black race, with many variations of Black, from Black-Black to White-Black, all ineranally rooted in a vast sea of Brain Blackness.” Dr. Richard King * Melanin is the chemical key to life itself! * It is the major organizing molecule for living systems! * It’s found everywhere! -in animals, plants (that’s why raisins are brown), soil, oceans, clouds even stars & comets! * It is essentially linked to the DNA of the genes! * It shows the potential to reproduce itself!
Black Melanin is necessary in order for humans to reproduce! Melanin is present at the inception of life: a Melanin sheath covers both the sperm and the egg! In the human embryo, the melanocytes (skin pigment cells), brain and nerve cells all originate from the same place; the neural crest. Melanocytes resemble nerve cells and are essential for conveying energy. When Melanin is missing or insufficient in the ectoderm of the early embryo (blastula),this causes the mother to lose her baby; in the case of whites, a defective baby is produced. Black Melanin is the super absorber of all forms of energy. It has “black hole” properties. It can convert light to sound and back again! It stores, transforms and conducts energy! The color of Black is the perfect absorber of light and all energy frequencies, giving Black Melanin these properties! Thus scientists describe Melanin as acting like a “black hole.” Melanin can rearrange its chemical structure to absorb ALL wavelengths of energy (sunlight, X-rays, music, radar) and can transmute and store this energy for later use! In The Isis Papers, Dr. Cress Welsing writes that Melanin gives us the ability to use our bodies as direct connections with he God Force, the source of all Energy -like plugging a cord into a wall socket. It also gives our hair antennae-like ability.
How does Melanin cause racial differences? The science of Genetics shows that Blacks can produce all races but it is impossible for a brown, yellow or white race to produce a black race. A Japanese scientist showed that inside melanocytes (pigment cells) are tiny packets called melanosomes that contain melanin. The four stages in the maturing of these melanosomes counts for racial differences: Stage 1: The melanosome is empty & doesn’t have the machinery to make melanin.
Stage 2: The melanosome has the machinery to make melanin, but is empty of melanin. Stage 3: The machinery is there and the melasosome is half filled with melanin. Stage 4: The machinery is there and the melanosome is completely filled with melanin. Whites have mainly stages 1 & 2, whereas all people of color have melanin, with Blacks having more of stage 4.
Other amazing facts about Black Melanin:
* Melanin granules are “central computers” and may analyze and initiate body responses without reporting to the brain! * Melanin slows aging & protects you from damming effects of sunlight. The darker your skin (genetically) the less it ages. Thus whites often have wrinkled skin in there 30s while Blacks often have smooth, unwrinkled skin even in “old” age. * All people of color have Melanin circulating in the blood due to spillage from the melanosomes (Melanin packets). *People containing high levels of Melanin (mainly Blacks) will always show a positive test for the use of marijuana! The chemical species found in the urine which indicates someone’s use of marijuana is also found in the urine of Blacks! * The Melanin molecule is so stable that it has been found in 150-million-year-old dinosaur fossils! It is highly resistant to chemical and physical analysis, this its precise structure is unknown!
“BLACKNESS” is a divine, cosmic principle of the Universe. BLACK is the meaning of Kam or Khem -the name which the ancient Egyptians called themselves. From this word we get “Chemistry,” the study of the building blocks of Life. Life is founded upon CARBON, the Black element present in all living matter. Black carbon atoms link to form Black Melanin, which has “Black Hole” properties! Black Holes are found at the center of our own galaxy and countless others. In physics, a “Black Body” is known to be a perfect absorber and perfect radiator of all forms of light and energy. This “Black Body Radiation” is at work in the electron, as shown by Nobel prize winner, Richard Feynman. The electron is responsible for ALL “Khem-ical” changes in matter. It has been present since the creation of the universe. The scientist, Jean Charaon proved that the electron has all the properties of the Black Hole, plus it exchanges “Black Photons” with other electrons, enabling it to continuously accumulate data. This means that if we view the electron as a carrier of memory, it has experienced everything in creation since the very beginning. Blackness is fundamental to the operation of the universe of energy. God is the Giver of All Energy: “Blackness” (not darkness) allows the perfect reception of all wavelengths of Energy.
Melanin gives Black people superior physical, mental & spiritual ability. Melanin refines the nervous system in such a way that messages from the brain reach other areas of the body most rapidly in Black people, the Original People. Black infants sit, stand, crawl and walk sooner than whites, and demonstrate more advanced cognitive skills than their white counterparts because of their abundance of Melanin. Carol Barnes writes “…your mental processes (brain power) are controlled by the same chemical that gives Black humans their superior physical (athletics, rhythmic dancing) abilities. This chemical… is Melanin!” The abundance of Melanin in Black humans produces a superior organism physically, mentally and spiritually. This why all the founders of the world’s great religions are Black. Melanin is the neuro-chemical basis for what is called SOUL in Black people. In the same way Blacks excel in athletics, they can excel in all other areas as well (like they did in the past!) once the road blocks are removed!
Is God Black? The Original Man was BLACK, “made in the IMAGE of God” his Parent, according to scared books. Children look like their parents. All the other races are but diluted variations of the Original Black Race. Most whites have calcified pineal glands which thwarts Melatonin production, thereby limiting their moral capacity. Located in the brain, the tiny pineal & pituitary glands regulate the body’s other glands. Esoteric tradition regards the area of these glands as the third eye, seat of the soul, and the mystical Uraeus represented by the cobra on the forehead of Egyptian royalty/crowns. Why did Africans view the European as a child of God, but the Europeans viewed the African as a soulless savage? Because of “melatonin,” described as a mentally & morally stimulating humanizing hormone produced by the pineal gland. Scientific research reveals that most whites are unable to produce much melatonin because their pineal glands are often calcified and nonfunctioning. Pineal calcification rates with Africans is 5-15%; Asians – 15-25%; Europeans -60-80%! This is the chemical basis for the cultural differences between Blacks and whites, causing some Black scholars to raise the question that the European approach, that of the logical, erect, rigid, anti-feeling posture, reflects a left brain orientation and reflects that they lack the chemical key of melatonin to turn on their unconscious and therefore cannot get into feelings. Carol Barnes writes “Melanin is responsible for the existence of civilization, philosophy, religion, truth, justice, and righteousness. Individuals (whites) containing low levels of Melanin will behave in a barbaric manner.” Melanin give humans the ability to FEEL because it is the absorber of all frequencies of energy. Dr. Welsing writes “Since melanin is a superior absorber of all energy , it is essential to establish this understanding of God and ‘all energy.’ The fact that the albinos lack melanin may also help to explain …why, in the view of many non-white peoples, they (whit4es) lack ‘spirituality” and the capacity to tune in to, and thereby establish harmony and justice…”
The scientific evidence of Melanin threatens the ideology of white supremacy. After considering melanin to be a “waste” product of body-metabolism which “served no useful function,” Western (white) science has now discovered that Melanin is the chemical key to life and the brain itself! All studies and facts about Melanin suggest that after 400 years of attempting to inferiorize the Black race, “Western science is facing the sobering reality that, by its own self-defined standards, Black people are probably superior to whites in both intellectual potential and muscle Coordination.” (Sepia magazine interview). The central role Melanin plays in the body has been “suppressed to maintain the mythological inferiority of blacks…and the defensive clinging to whiteness as some token of superiority.” (Dr. Richard King) The “superiority complex” of white people is a defense mechanism and a mask for their deep set inferiority complex which they project onto people of color. Psychologists say insistent denial means reality in the opposite way. If whites really believed that white skin was “superior,” why is “tanning” so important in white culture despite its known health risks (thousands die annually from skin cancer). Also, curling or perming lifeless, straight hair, and the latest lip injections for a fuller look! And it is the white female who tells you that her ideal mate is “tall, DARK, and handsome!” “Dark” indeed refers to more Melanin!
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Abstract: Using primarily linguistic evidence, comparative religious data, as well as semiotics, this presentation seeks to highlight the conceptual, ritual and symbolic continuities between Ancient ciKam (Kemet), and the modern Yoruba spiritual system and deity known as Ifá/ňpẹ̀lẹ̀ (Arabic ‘aaf, Mina fa). We will also demonstrate that Africans had their own Theory of Evolution and we argue that this theory played a critical role in the development of African spiritual systems. We will see just how this theory of evolution manifested itself in two of Africa’s major cultural systems: i.e. Ancient ciKam and Odu Ifá.
As I stated earlier this truth of our ancient Nile Valley origins and legacy is becoming common knowledge among our people more and more by the day. In the mist of all of the other pieces of evidence that the double agents are shitting themselves over, they still have to contend with the troubling glare of African approval (all of those articles that I posted ranging from the Akan to Serer were written by their/our own people based on our oral traditions) of this stance that we originated in along the Nile in ancient Nubia-Egypt.
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Pseudoscience dogma..thought so. You fughked up ...again. Do not know the difference between Melatonin and Melanin/Melaninosome.
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Melatonin is a hormone in the body that helps to regulate sleep and wake cycles. Produced by Pituary gland In mammals, melatonin is biosynthesized in four enzymatic steps from the essential dietary amino acid tryptophan, with serotonin produced at the third step. Melatonin is secreted into the blood by the pineal gland in the brain. Known as the "hormone of darkness," it is secreted in darkness in both day-active (diurnal) and night-active (nocturnal) animals.
darkness-night-time
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Nigga=Nargar - really? I thought negro=nigga
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quote:Originally posted by xyyman: Do not know the difference between Melatonin and Melanin/Melaninosome.
Yes do you?
"Pineal gland secretes melatonin which activates the pituitary gland to release MSH (melanocyte stimulating hormone) it is in the melanocytes that melanin is produced "
Most (over 3/4's) Europeans and people of European descent have CALCIFIED pineal glands.
This is why we know that the ancient Egyptians were not the Albino (white people), hence white people are left brain oriented "soulless" creations.
Yes I said "creation" here is what our black Egyptian ancestors described the newly created white people "Tamahu":
" The ancient Egyptians worried about an immigrant-tribe of blue-eyed people among them that seemed to have a proclivity for trouble-making. They had red or blonde hair and blue eyes and lived at the edge of the desert. The Egyptians called them Tamahu—the created ones—a clear allusion to their unnatural origins. "
quote:Nigga=Nargar - really? I thought negro=nigga
Well then again you don't know ****...clearly! The word "nigger" is a corruption of the term which referred to the black kings (their Kundalini serpent/third eye) of the ancient World as the Nargas.
THE WORD NAGA N NIGGER HOW THE WORD FOR GOD N-G-R BECAME NIGGER The ancient Egyptians called their Pharaohs "N-G-R" (Net-ger) because the Egyptian Pharaohwas seen as a representation of the sun and the Sun God. The original Pharaohs who were pure Black Africans SAW BLACK SKIN AS SACRED AND A DIRECT BLESSING FROM THESUN GOD, ATEN. In fact Blackness and black skin became associated with God and the sun. BLACK PEOPLE WERE POWERFUL, CULTURALLY ADVANCED, MILITARILYSUPERIOR, BLACK/DARKBROWN IN COMPLEXION, STRONG STATURE, TALL ANDDESCRIBED AS A "HANDSOME" RACE , (SEE HERODOTUS, "THE HISTORIES,DESCRIPTIONS OF "ETHIOPIANS" OF AFRICA AND SOUTH INDIA). The recognition of the Pharaoh as a living God and the black skin as a blessing spread worldwideto other cultures. In fact the term "Net-ger" became the Ethiopian "Negus" or "Negashi."In the Sudroid (Indo-Negroids of India) languages of India, which are part of the Cushite branchof the African languages, the term "Naga" denotes original or first.In fact, in ancient India, the people with the blackest skins were respected and held to igh esteem, unlike today where the racist, colonialist and alien concept of "varna" or castecolor racism placesSudroids, Indo-Negroids, Black Tribals, Dalits, Negro-Australoids and other BLACKS AT THEVERY BOTTOM OF iNDIAN SOCIETY.See www.dalitstan.org/books/sudroidThe term "Ngola" (Angola) means "King" in the Angolan languages. This term was mistaken by the Portugese to mean the DESCRIBE "Ndongo," the kingdom.The first people to corrupt the term "N-G-R" were the Roman invaders of Egypt who may have heard the term used to describe the leader of Egypt or Nubia. The term "Niger" was later used to mean any Black/Negroid person that the Romans saw in Africa or anywhere else. The Romans tried to invade Nubia during the early years of the Christian Era. Then, Nubia-Kush was ruled by a line of Queens called "Ka'andak'es (Candace). One such queen and her son defeated the Roman army at Aswan, (see http://community.webtv.net/paulnubiaempire ) Egyptand burned the Roman Fort.AND CARRIED THE BRONZE HEAD OF ROMAN EMPEROR AGUSTUS TO THE CUSHITE (NUBIAN) CITY OF NAPATA. The Romans colonized and spread the Latin language to Europe. Due to this linguistic influence,the Latin term "Niger" became "Negre" in French and "Negro" in Spanish.
Hence the serpent (Kundalini) wrapped along a spinal cord that you see in doctors office.
This was the mystic power of the Pharaoh or "Narga", which made World worship them as Gods. The pharonic knowledge brought by black people of course made it's way into South and East Asia and is the basis of much of their mythology (even T.V. shows like Dragon Ball Z) as they will readily admit and often honor in annual festivals. This is why you see the black knotty or braided haired, fat lipped, thick nosed Buddhas and other high ranking figures throughout the continent.
To the naysayers yes our blood disease (Sickle cell) somehow made it into South and East Asia (where these statues are found) as well:
This is the black man's Gods ancient power and hidden (now) knowledge of self.
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^ Agreed there may be a global plan(desease)..I believe they have the capability to wipe usout (75%) if they choose to.
The only drawback is …why? They can’t live in Africa or any tropical region. They are rife with genetic disorders. They are quite possible an evolutionary dead end unless they some how master engineering their genes. And that is maybe a 100years away.
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It is labeled "Thutmose III" but it is really based on the Tutankhamun innermost coffin below
this is the real one Innermost Coffin of Tutankhamun, 1926, photo by Harry Burton
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however I can't stop you if you keep posting fake shyt
^So if white people say "nigger please" or "nigga please" they are in the flow of black history and culture? Or would "naguzr please" be more correct?
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quote:Originally posted by zarahan- aka Enrique Cardova: So if white people say "nigger please" or "nigga please" they are in the flow of black history and culture? Or would "naguzr please" be more correct?
Wtf are you talking about? Who tf cares about these pink albino bitches? They are the most ignorant (which equates to evil in ancient Egypt) things to ever walk this Earth. Hell you know...you're one!
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In the Colonial America of 1619, John Rolfe used negars in describing the African slaves shipped to the Virginia colony.[2] Later American English spellings, neger and neggar, prevailed in a northern colony, New York under the Dutch, and in metropolitan Philadelphia's Moravian and Pennsylvania Dutch communities; the African Burial Ground in New York City originally was known by the Dutch name "Begraafplaats van de Neger" (Cemetery of the Negro); an early US occurrence of neger in Rhode Island, dates from 1625.[3] An alternative word for African Americans was the English word, "Black", used by Thomas Jefferson in his Notes on the State of Virginia. Among Anglophones, the word nigger was not always considered derogatory, because it then denoted "black-skinned", a common Anglophone usage.[4] Nineteenth-century English (language) literature features usages of nigger without racist connotation, e.g. the Joseph Conrad novella The Nigger of the 'Narcissus' (1897). Moreover, Charles Dickens and Mark Twain created characters who used the word as contemporary usage. Twain, in the autobiographic book Life on the Mississippi (1883), used the term within quotes, indicating reported usage, but used the term "negro" when speaking in his own narrative persona.[5] During the fur trade of the early 1800s to the late 1840s in the Western United States, the word was spelled "niggur", and is often recorded in literature of the time. George Fredrick Ruxton often included the word as part of the "mountain man" lexicon, and did not indicate that the word was pejorative at the time. "Niggur" was evidently similar to the modern use of dude, or guy. This passage from Ruxton's Life in the Far West illustrates a common use of the word in spoken form—the speaker here referring to himself: "Travler, marm, this niggur's no travler; I ar' a trapper, marm, a mountain-man, wagh!"[6] It was not used as a term exclusively for blacks among mountain men during this period, as Indians, Mexicans, and Frenchmen and Anglos alike could be a "niggur". __________________________________________________
African nation, named for the river Niger, mentioned by that name 1520s (Leo Africanus), probably an alteration (by influence of Latin niger "black") of a local Tuareg name, egereou n-igereouen, from egereou "big river, sea" + n-igereouen, plural of that word. Translated in Arabic as nahr al-anhur "river of rivers."
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He made about 5 false statements up to this point. But you have exceeded your quota Lioness.
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The most important part I would like you to answer Truthcentric is this following since it's not the fluff part but the scientific part:
quote: Africans have always been genetically and culturally diverse and that one subset of them may be fraternal to OOA.
Ok, but why do you want ONLY modern East African populations to be fraternal with OOA migrants at the moment of the OOA migrations, instead of both East and West Africans for example? All CT carriers and all L3 carriers? (who btw continued to interact and admix with one another after the OOA migrations, developing among other thing the E, EP2, L3eikx, etc haplogroups. All subsequent to the OOA migrations). So why only East Africans, why not all CT carriers for example to be more fraternal with OOA migrants at the moment of the OOA migrations? Why only East Africans instead of both East and West Africans and all CT/L3 carriers in general? That sounds like the hamitic race myth, but for what and based on what?
...Still no answer...
Notice how Truthcentic takes the time to reply to bonko Akachi, but carefully avoid posts related to scientific data and analysis. Especially those related to the common origin of most modern African people like West and East Africans in North-Eastern Africa (at a time period after the OOA migrations of non-Africans).
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quote:Originally posted by Truthcentric: ...wait, Akachi is endorsing melanin supremacism now? Is he intent on digging his own grave deeper than he already has?
^^^2 sides of the same coin.
Akachi is phoney and make stupid and racist posts. But I don't see how this is different from Swenet, Beyoku, and apparently you, Truthcentric, trying to say Ancient Egpytians were closer to Eurasians than to most African populations like West, Great Lakes and Southern Africa. Trying to revive the debunked Hamitic race myth. All this based on prejudice, racism and knee-jerk reactions.
I can say this is based on prejudice, racism and knee-jerk reactions because genetics, archeological(cultural) and biological anthropology analysis of Ancient Egyptians (well recent studies) show them clustering with African populations in general, not Eurasians.
Nobody pretend that modern West Africans or modern East Africans are direct descendants of Ancient Egyptians (at least not to a significative level). Ancient Egyptians were their own people but are still more related to other African populations (West,East,South) than to Eurasians populations. Modern post-dynastic foreign conquests, migrations and demographic expansion changed the ethnic composition and affiliations of modern Egyptians.
Modern Horners like Modern Egyptians and modern Africans in general (accent on modern), are the products of demographic changes in the last 6000-8000 years (genetic drift, change in lifestyles, demographic expansion, admixtures, post-dynastic migrations and conquests, etc). Ancient Egyptians are their own people but are more closely related to other African populations than to non-African populations. That is all before those foreign conquests and migrations. This is scientifically speaking. Ancient Egypt is a child of Africa and the Green Sahara. A mostly indigenous African process and development.
1) Genetically: The current ancient DNA analysis of Ancient Egyptians mummy specimen have identified the haplogroup E1b1a for Ramses III and the screaming mummy. Common haplogroup among Sub-Saharan Africans. Autosomal STR have them clustering with Great Lakes, Southern and West Africans. Not Eurasians. This is all from the JAMA , BMJ and DNA Tribes studies mentioned in this thread and forum. Ancient DNA in general has the best discriminative power to identify related and non-related populations.
2) Cultural Archaeology: Same here, Ancient Egyptian share many cultural characteristic with Ancient Egyptians. It has been demonstrated that Ancient Egypt was mostly the product of an indigenous African development. From their common origin in Eastern Africa, to the Green Sahara culture (Wavy-line pottery), to Nabta Playa, Tasian, Badarian, Naqada.
3) Biological Anthropology: Same here, Ancient Egyptians cluster with modern African populations not modern Eurasian populations. The change in physiology between them and their North-East African ancestors/predecessor is related to the change in lifestyles and diet and genetic drift. For example, the transition from hunter-gatherers, to pastoralism to agriculture lifestyles. Ancient Egyptians have been demonstrated to be continuous with their North-East African ancestors/predecessors in modern studies.
Fig. 1. Neighbor-joining dendrogram for a series of prehistoric and recent human populations (Craniofacial measures)
Clearly, we can see Niger-Congo speakers (Tanzania, Dahomey, Congo), Nubians, Somali, Naqada clustering on the same branch. Completely distinct from modern Eurasian populations like Egypt, Middle East, Italy, France, or Germany.
Same for post-cranial analysis:
We can see African populations (including East, West Africans and African-Americans) clustering at the top and non-African populations clustering at the bottom.
This study has the same analysis: From Cranial Discrete Traits in a Byzantine Population and Eastern Mediterranean Population Movements by F. X. RICAUT and M. WAELKENS (2008)
This affinity pattern between ancient Egyptians and sub-Saharans has also been noticed by several other investigators (Angel 1972;Berry and Berry 1967, 1972; Keita 1995) and has been recently reinforced by the study of Brace et al. (2005), which clearly shows that the cranial morphology of prehistoric and recent northeast African populations is linked to sub-Saharan populations (Niger- Congo populations).
This affinity between Ancient and modern Northeastern African populations and Niger-Congo speakers (which form the majority of African people) can also be seen genetically and linguistically. As modern East and West African people (and Ancient Egyptians of course) have a common origin in Eastern Africa well after the Out of Africa migrations of Eurasian people ancestors .
Genetically: Y-DNA:
And here for MtDNA (other L haplogroups were obviously not part of the OOA migrations so I didn't include them in the graph):
It's impossible that ONLY East Africans were genetically closer to Eurasians after the OOA migrations (before any admixtures) if they share a common Y-DNA grandfather and common mtDNA grandmothers with other African populations but not with Eurasians. It's impossible. The genetic structure at the moment of the OOA migrations was between the L3 haplogroup carriers and non-L3 haplogroup carriers. As well as CT carriers and non-CT carriers. Both L3 and CT haplogroups unites most modern African people including East and West Africans. Other African people and haplogroup are related to them through admixtures.
Linguistically: All modern African languages family, including Niger-Congo have their ancient origin in North-Eastern Africa: From:Reconstructing Ancient Kinship in Africa by Christopher Ehret (From Early Human Kinship, Chap 12)
Ultimately, most African people, including Somali, Yoruba and Ancient Egyptians share a common origin in North-Eastern Africa at a time period after the OOA migrations of non-Africans.
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What is this …Voodoo science? Is he confusing Melanin and Melatonin? It looks outdated also. As I said before. I own this!! That is the problem with fanatical dogma. Can’t tell the difference between Fact and Fiction.
Quote : The link you provided by Adeyole et 1974 ------------------ An intriguing possibility has been raised that might relate to the racial differences in pineal gland calcification. Melatonin, the most potent skin lightening agent presently known, is elaborated only by the pineal gland.8 Increase in daylight inhibits melatonin synthesis, while a decrease of light has the opposite effect.3’5 Could increase in this hormone in the pineal gland be related to calcium formation in that organ as well as to the whiteness of the human skin? When our figures are compared with
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MELATONIN
Melatonin is secreted into the blood by the pineal gland in the brain. Known as the "hormone of darkness," it is secreted in darkness in both day-active (diurnal) and night-active (nocturnal) animals.[24] It may also be
MELANIN
The production of melanin is called melanogenesis. In the skin, melanogenesis occurs after exposure to UV radiation, causing the skin to visibly tan. Melanin is an effective absorber of light; the pigment is able to dissipate over 99.9% of absorbed UV radiation.[1] Because of this property, melanin is thought to protect skin cells from UVB radiation damage, reducing the risk of cancer
The melanin in the skin is produced by melanocytes, which are found in the basal layer of the epidermis. Although, in general, human beings possess a similar concentration of melanocytes in their skin, the melanocytes in some individuals and ethnic groups more frequently or less frequently express and humans have very little or no melanin synthesis in their bodies, a condition known as albinism
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This affinity pattern between ancient Egyptians and sub-Saharans has also been noticed by several other investigators (Angel 1972;Berry and Berry 1967, 1972; Keita 1995) and has been recently reinforced by the study of Brace et al. (2005), which clearly shows that the cranial morphology of prehistoric and recent northeast African populations is linked to sub-Saharan populations (Niger- Congo populations).
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I am not disputing that Euros have a higher incidence of Pineal Gland calcification and this may lead to psychotic episodes. But get you facts straight and check your sources. Don’t be a fanatical follower. Otherswise….carry-on. I will be watching.
quote:Originally posted by xyyman: What is this …Voodoo science? Is he confusing Melanin and Melatonin? It looks outdated also. As I said before. I own this!! That is the problem with fanatical dogma. Can’t tell the difference between Fact and Fiction.
Quote : The link you provided by Adeyole et 1974
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