posted 24 May 2005 02:46 PM            

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Obviously these ladies have little or nothing to do with Africa, rasol knows that.

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You know what you are:

posted 24 May 2005 03:31 PM            

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Originally posted by Horemheb:
The ladies shown above are not black African, thats for sure. Doesn't look like they have a drop of black blood.

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alot of those women look almost like some but not all african americans,but they all look racially black,so in that sense there is a basic look that makes them look more or less alike like most blacks on the earth,just like whites and other races.

those women are clearly black africans,are you blind?
they do not look like white,brown,red,yellow or any other race but black.

you need to get of this forum with you foolishness.

what is a arab?it is not a race,so saying they look like arabs is non-sense.

the ex-leader of iraq does not look like them

the more correct answer would be that some arabs look like them,and that would be alot of the black arabs and to a certain extent some brown ones depending on each picture.

saying arabs is a blanket statement just like latino,because there are different races in each group.

posted 24 May 2005 04:45 PM            

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Originally posted by COBRA:
SO HOW WOULD YOU BOTH CLASSIFY THOSE LADIES ABOVE??

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They are dead ringers for AE women and more and most importantly, they're hot.
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posted 24 May 2005 05:26 PM            

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Originally posted by kovert, the one and only:
Cobra, this thread my interest you:
http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/Forum8/HTML/001808.html

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well kovert, i have read it before. i think its is one of the best thresds on the site.

good information gatharing kovert!!

posted 24 May 2005 05:28 PM            

This is neather the time or place for such acctivities!!

Anyway, they arnt all that for a standard somali.

posted 24 May 2005 05:33 PM            

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Originally posted by Horemheb:
Her skin color is dark but thats just a climate thing. Obviously these ladies have little or nothing to do with Africa, rasol knows that.

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I got a question for all of you, do you classify a pearson's race by the colour of their face or by their features??

posted 24 May 2005 06:09 PM            

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Originally posted by windstorm2005:
I'll take #4, please. Thank you!

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posted 24 May 2005 06:25 PM            

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Originally posted by COBRA:
windstorm2005 contain yourself!!! please!!

Anyway, they arnt all that for a standard somali.

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By the way, as for the race questions don't expect to get too many sensible answers. Race is a social category made up by the dominant powers of a society to keep people divided and at each other throats while they get away with murder in a literal and figurative sense.

Race varies across societies and time, so there is no simple final answer. It is a highly charged, flammable topic so don't count on getting logical answers cause the race thing appeals to the emotional, primitive, reptilian part of the brain (case in point Horemb).

Many dumbass race topics have generated hundreds, pages of posts in hours while other posts that are actually on topic or more cerebral have been woefully ignored.

posted 24 May 2005 06:36 PM            

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Originally posted by kovert, the one and only:
[B]You mean the average Somali is even better looking!!! God damn!!! We've got to hang out sometime so you can introduce to sexy Somali babes.

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posted 24 May 2005 07:45 PM            

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look like arabs to me.

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The ladies shown above are not black African, thats for sure. Doesn't look like they have a drop of black blood.

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One of the ladies shown above is Somali fashion model - Iman

From her autobiography:

I am beautiful because I am black and I am Somali

Ironically, or perhaps fittingly, Iman herself has portrayed Nefertiti.

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another pic of Iman

Waris Dirie

Hor says:

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Her skin color is dark but thats just a climate thing. Obviously these ladies have little or nothing to do with Africa, rasol knows that.

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It's obvious Horemheb's denial has reached new heights of insanity!!

posted 24 May 2005 08:26 PM            

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Originally posted by Djehuti:
[B]Seriously Hor, after all you have said, instead of visiting this forum you need to visit a shrink!!

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posted 25 May 2005 04:39 AM            

To illustrate:

posted 25 May 2005 05:56 AM            

I’m 50% white but you would never know I have white blood in me. I doubt with this much progression in society and interrelationship with so many different countries with different ethnical backgrounds whatever you race is you would have some proportion of other races’ blood whether it’s one drop or not doesn’t really matter. My definition of being black is those with dark complexion (whether it’s medium, real dark doesn’t matter) and that have African heritage and those that believe that they are black. The picture of those beautiful women above fit those descriptions.

posted 25 May 2005 09:30 AM            

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Originally posted by Waryaa:
Somali people recognize one another based on some facial and overall body features. Common themes are: The big forehead, the slight-tallness body and most are brown, rather than other two other extremes.

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posted 25 May 2005 09:37 AM            

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Originally posted by Waryaa:
Hello there, folks.

I am Soomaali (Somali) and this character known as Nefertiti does indeed look like the average Somali woman. To illustrate a bit, here a sample of Somali women, including the so-called professional model ones going first:

A professional model by the name of Yasmin Warsame.

Another model named Waris Dirie

And of course Iman.

Now the other non-models, average ones from Somali diaspora on a Somali site:

[img]http://www.somalilife.com/modules/FriendFinder/images/xubnaha/5883.jpg[/img

And this lady from Somalia:

Somali girls in their old traditional garments

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posted 25 May 2005 09:42 AM            

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Professor Horemheb's worst nightmare.

Djehuti has the right idea.

Just clown that fool.

Horemheb gets upset when Egyptians like Ausar or Multisphinx slap him silly because it ruins his white-egypt fantasy.

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Multisphinx writes: Horemhebb, why on earth do u think u can use such a name, u are not egyptian, just an ignorant white redneck.

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posted 25 May 2005 10:08 AM            

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Originally posted by Horemheb:
hug and a kiss rasol

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posted 25 May 2005 10:57 AM            

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Originally posted by relaxx:

Although Somali guys are more handsome than Ethiopian men (if you exclude the Oromos, because they are similar except Oromos have bigger eyes like the AE), I think many will agree ,even the Somalis, that Ethiopian and Eritrean Girls are really more beautiful, remember their beautiful big eyes like the AE, I haven't seen those eyes among Somali girls except very few...maybe I'm wrong, but I lived in the area and I'm neither a Somali nor an Ethiopian. Remember how sweet and polite Ethiopian girls are....But anyway Somali girls are still cute.
Relaxx

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I think you are talking b.s. when talking about the sizes of ethiopian women's eyes.

Could you tell the differance beween a somali and ethiopian women?

posted 25 May 2005 01:25 PM            

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Atheist says: Hypocrisy at it’s best. Just because they don’t look like your stereotypical black women don’t mean they aren’t. A lot of regulars at this site have provided more than enough information on how there are exceptions of certain black people that aren’t mixed but have the clear distinctive appearances of other blacks. Just because some white guy has big lips and wide nose doesn’t make him black. Black people have just as diverse looks as that of white people. All people are created differently and even people with the same race all have their uniqueness. And also you don’t need to be 100% of certain race to be classified as that race.

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Atheist, there is more diversity within designated 'races' then there is between 'races'! As a 'mongoloid'(I hate that term btw) asian I'm sure you are sick and tired of the stereotype that "all asians look alike"! If one were to really travel through Asia or just simply hang around asian groups more, one could discern that diversity. I myself am from Southeast Asia but have been mistaken for a hispanic many times because my skin is dark and my eyes are more wide I also have big lips and a wide nose. There are peoples in Asia who have tall statures with thin lips and long slightly aquiline noses, such as Tibetans. In the past, Westerners have even said they are caucasoid! But they have no relation to caucasoid people at all, they are just as asian as Chinese. Complexions among so-called 'mongoloids' can range from very fair, to brown. The point is people of a certain 'race' do not come in one particular phenotype!

There is a Somali community around where I live and I even have a few Somali friends, so I've seen countless Somali people but I have never seen any that light-skinned.

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Somali people recognize one another based on some facial and overall body features. Common themes are: The big forehead, the slight-tallness body and most are brown, rather than other two other extremes.

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As Waryaa says most Somalis are brown in color. So perhaps those girls in the pic are Benadir-Somalis?

Anyway, for Hor to say that these lovely ladies:
aren't black and have little to do with Africa, is beyond crazy!

posted 25 May 2005 02:12 PM            

Djehuti, also take in consideration that females of any ethnic group are naturally lighter because they produced `%10 less melanin than male counterparts.

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Originally posted by ausar:

Djehuti, also take in consideration that females of any ethnic group are naturally lighter because they produced `%10 less melanin than male counterparts.

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posted 25 May 2005 04:25 PM            

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Originally posted by COBRA:
I think you are talking b.s. when talking about the sizes of ethiopian women's eyes.

Could you tell the differance beween a somali and ethiopian women?

post some images of comparison and proof that you know what your talking about.

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Well:"The Truth is not always good to tell", I realized that when I opened a couple of threads in this forum...Are you Somali?...because many know how to make the difference...by the way when are you going to post some pics of Irish chicks?

Relaxx

posted 25 May 2005 04:27 PM            

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Originally posted by relaxx:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Waryaa:
[b]Somali people recognize one another based on some facial and overall body features. Common themes are: The big forehead, the slight-tallness body and most are brown, rather than other two other extremes.

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Waryaa,

What's taking so long?

posted 25 May 2005 04:52 PM            

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Originally posted by relaxx:

... Some people think that the Somali girls shown earlier are not Africans....What do you think?

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I take it that, these 'some people' would be horemheb; I don't see any other nutty posts here confusing these people.

posted 25 May 2005 05:32 PM            

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Originally posted by Super car:
I take it that, these 'some people' would be horemheb; I don't see any other nutty posts here confusing these people.

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posted 25 May 2005 06:38 PM            

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Originally posted by Djehuti:
Those light-skinned girls do look atypical of Somalis and so are most likely mixed. However, you've got to be crazy to say they have little or no African ancestry! I've seen African Americans that look whiter than those Somali girls, yet most whites still consider them black!

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Djehuti, you mean, they look like that:

Relaxx.

posted 25 May 2005 06:45 PM            

Relaxx

posted 25 May 2005 06:49 PM            

Of course to good ol' Hor, their skin color is just a climate thing and they have nothing to do with Africa, even though Somalia is a Sub-Saharan East-African country! LOL

posted 25 May 2005 06:55 PM            

[IMG]http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40581000/jpg/_40581427_mohammed203.jpg

Relaxx

posted 25 May 2005 07:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Horemheb:
They are clearly arabs.

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posted 25 May 2005 11:42 PM            

I think it's basically because of the media here. Most of the Asians are seen with slanted eyes short stature and that of a stereotypical Asian. Both Asian and black race always had diverse looks just as much as the white people. However again that's how we were taught here in US. I didn't really realize it until I actually went to Seoul and I actually went to Tokyo for a trip. I already knew people in Southeast Asia had distinctive looks which is good for them because those small ugly slanted eyes stereotypes are usually directed to people in China and Korea. Being an Asian myself I was surprised that the South Koreans had distinctive looks compare to even to China and Japan. When I first went to some of the biggest malls in Korea I realized that they weren't small. I'm 5'11'' I thought I would tower over the 5'3'' Koreans that are often described here. But except for couple of old people most men range from 5'8'' to 6'0''. A lot of them were actually clearly bigger than me. Though some people did have slanted eyes I have seen a whole lot of people with huge eyes and pointy nose. There were a lot of guys with medium eyes as well. Horemheb would probably consider those Koreans with big eyes and pointy nose "clear white Caucasian". I think it comes from ignorance and stubbornness from idiots who like to categorize every other races but his race.

posted 26 May 2005 12:30 AM            

The father of current Banaadiri.

They are also brown-skinned group among them, not as a result of intermarriage with other ethnic Somalis, but just their brethren are a bit light-skinned they are brown-skinned. Other Somalis call them "gibil cad" and "gibil madoow" (roughly translated as 'white-skinned' and 'black-skinned respectively). Here for instance:

posted 26 May 2005 12:49 AM            

Others can label Somalis to any other categories, but the fact is I am still a Somali--foremost and furthermost.

PS, have you ever wondered when Western media report about Somalis, they instead refer to them "a Somali person did this..." or that, but if a Nigerian or Ghanaian are reported in the same page, it is all suddenly a fair game of "an African man did this..." I don't know what's behind this, even though there are more Nigerians on this planet than Somalis.

posted 26 May 2005 01:08 AM            

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Relaxx, no need to post the darkest Somalis to prove your belief of Somalis being African. Somalis do not give a hoot what others think and where they are classified as. As a matter of fact, some considerable Somalis, especially the elders, believe they, along with Oromos and Afars, are a 'race' of their own. And if you personally want my opinion of whether I think if Somalis are African or not--let me just say I am Somali. First and last.

Others can label Somalis to any other categories, but the fact is I am still a Somali--foremost and furthermost.

PS, have you ever wondered when Western media report about Somalis, they instead refer to them "a Somali person did this..." or that, but if a Nigerian or Ghanaian are reported in the same page, it is all suddenly a fair game of "an African man did this..." I don't know what's behind this, even though there are more Nigerians on this planet than Somalis.

Perhaps the fact that Somalis travelled widely might help. There is a Somali that can be found in Brazil, just there is a one in Solomon Islands and Alaska. (They are all there, as I had read them personally and corresponded.) For a few million Somalis on this planet, it is disproportionate how far they travelled and how small they are population-wise. There were Somalis in USA in the beginning of 1900s; as early as 1910 some were found in Chicago. I am saying all this because the name Somali is widely known now and even some of the media members do not use the 'African' label, while others incorrectly assume they are Arabs, which they aren't.

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Whatever Somalis think of themselves, doesn't change the fact that they are indigenous sub-Saharan Africans, and I hope they don't need a 'western' media to tell them this. I personally don't see any of the photos presented here, as being unusual, nor would they stand out, with regards to Somalis, for I have myself been to that part of the continent. I however, noticed some xenophobia (towards various foreigners) among Somalis, and even Ethiopians living in the capital city. It could be the result of a mixture of ignorance and socio-economic problems.

posted 26 May 2005 01:35 AM            

It's really the lack of knowledge that propel people to raise question to these indigenous Somalis. When I meet new Asian friends a lot of them realize that I'm a Korean. In here they always say are you chinese or japanese. I think this due to lack of knowledge than anything else.

This is really an educational thread to learn the different looks within the same African people.

BTW: Super car, again precise and to the point. I agree with all you said.