posted 05 June 2005 01:28 PM            

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Originally posted by Djehuti:
No stupid AMR1! They are not talking about Fulani who make Hajj! They are talking about the Tuareg of Northwest Africa who are related to the Beja of Northeast Africa because the Tuareg and Beja share a common ancestor and that the Tuareg originally came from the East but travelled west thousands of years ago before any Arab, Islamic invasions!!!

You cannot read or something?!

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tHE STUDY HE REFERS TO MENTION LESS THAN 15000 YEARS AGO, WHO REALLY KNOWS WHAT HAPPENED BETWEEN 10-15 THOUSAND YEARS AGO, IT IS ALL THEORIES UP TO NOW, MAY BE IN TEH FUTURE WE WILL KNOW MORE.

I am talking that the tuareg used to go eastward also for al haj , not only the fulanis and the hausa in the last 1300 years and teh villages they built along the nile is there for every one to see/

posted 05 June 2005 01:30 PM            

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Originally posted by rasol:
Given as your opinions are transparently non-scholarly, anti-intellectual, and rooted in nothing more than personal bias, confusion and resentment - No one trusts you, at all. We doubt you trust yourself. Nor should you.

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posted 05 June 2005 01:53 PM            

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No North Sudanese have escaped the West African blood, trust me on this

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The Beja did. The Beja are uncontrollable nomads that move from area to area.

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Actually the West Africans are the one who Islamized the Sudan, not Egyptians or Arabs.\

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This is complete nonsense. Most of Northern Sudan was Christian kingdoms. Eventually by the Mameluke period the numerical numbers of Muslims increased. Around this time Arabs also began to intermarry with Nubians;thus Islamizing the Sudan.

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Remmeber Nubia made a deal with Arabs in 640 to pay taxes and stay christian. But slowely teh West african in their way to teh Neart East, Islamized the Sudan.

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Actually it was the Baqt treaty that said that Nubians must supply a certain amounts of slaves to the caliph in Cairo. However, half the time the Baqat was never honored. Nubians infact many times during the Medieval period ruled parts of Aswan.

Western African Muslim pilgrims have only been coming to Sudan since the 1500's-1800's

Mostly Fulani[Fulata],Hausa,and Mande pilgrims.

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I am talking that the tuareg used to go eastward also for al haj , not only the fulanis and the hausa in the last 1300 years and teh villages they built along the nile is there for every one to see/

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I have never heard of Tuaregs taking the Sudan hajji route. Tuareg are nomads and would not voluntary settle down for an agritcultural existence. You do realize this?

posted 05 June 2005 02:44 PM            

And is arabic their preferd language?

posted 05 June 2005 06:15 PM            

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Originally posted by AMR1:
When the jews entered Egypt, Egypt had a 3500 year civilization. When the Jews entered Egypt, Egypt was unified by King Mena 1500 years before that

So where is your contribution to its civilization.

Israelites were mere slaves in Egypt. They have not contributed to it culturally or politically or socially. The israelites unlike others who came to Egypt refused to be absorbed by the Egyptians and therefore enslaved.

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Don't foget, your Quran is really just about a modified version of Judaism. Islam is a Jewish religion just as much as Christianity and you worship a Jewish God and follow Jewish traditions.

Jews had Egyptians as slaves and it is the children that we had with these slaves that became the original Arabs. That 35% of Black African blood that is in Arabs today is from this admixture between Jew and Egyptians. Though back in those days we were not called Jews. We are the ones that built Mesopatamia. And until proven otherwise, Mesopatamia is older than Egypt. Contact between Mesopatamia and Egypt is well documented. As time goes on it will become more clear how much influence Jews had on Egyptians. Any influence would have been due to information sharing and certainly not conquest.

posted 05 June 2005 06:21 PM            

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Originally posted by osirion:
Don't foget, your Quran is really just about a modified version of Judaism. Islam is a Jewish religion just as much as Christianity and you worship a Jewish God and follow Jewish traditions.

Jews had Egyptians as slaves and it is the children that we had with these slaves that became the original Arabs. That 35% of Black African blood that is in Arabs today is from this admixture between Jew and Egyptians. Though back in those days we were not called Jews. We are the ones that built Mesopatamia. And until proven otherwise, Mesopatamia is older than Egypt. Contact between Mesopatamia and Egypt is well documented. As time goes on it will become more clear how much influence Jews had on Egyptians. Any influence would have been due to information sharing and certainly not conquest.

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What are you talking about?!

Jews and Mesopotamians are different people!

The ancestors of Jews were Semitic nomads of the Levant whose closest relatives were the Canaanites.

As for Mesopotamian influence on Egypt, it has been proven that the Egyptians developed writing first, and that the earliest writing was also found in lower Nubia.

posted 05 June 2005 06:37 PM            

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Originally posted by osirion:
Don't foget, your Quran is really just about a modified version of Judaism. Islam is a Jewish religion just as much as Christianity and you worship a Jewish God and follow Jewish traditions.

Jews had Egyptians as slaves and it is the children that we had with these slaves that became the original Arabs. That 35% of Black African blood that is in Arabs today is from this admixture between Jew and Egyptians. Though back in those days we were not called Jews. We are the ones that built Mesopatamia. And until proven otherwise, Mesopatamia is older than Egypt. Contact between Mesopatamia and Egypt is well documented. As time goes on it will become more clear how much influence Jews had on Egyptians. Any influence would have been due to information sharing and certainly not conquest.

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Now of course, all this seems like a personal fantasy of yours, unless it is...drawn from some peer-reviewed documentation; I just wonder which? If you'll be so kind as to provide the details of such a source, that would be appreciated.

posted 05 June 2005 06:51 PM            

Cobra, I was not speaking of the southern Sudanese but of the Hausa,Fulani,and Mande Muslims who settled in Sudan along the Hajji routes. A road called Bayuda road conntected the Sahelian Western African states with Western Africans,and this was a populat deistination for most Western African Muslims.

Culturally, the southern Sudanese groups have alot in common with the anceient Nubians because both speak a Nilo-Saharan type language. The Shilluk people have scarification that is similar to tomb reliefs seen in the tomb of Horemheb. The Nubian captives in this tomb have scarification like that of the southern Sudanese and modern Nubians.

Modern Nubians are divided up into Fadija,Kenuzi,Mahmas,and Dongolan linguistics.

posted 05 June 2005 07:46 PM            

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Originally posted by Super car:
Now of course, all this seems like a personal fantasy of yours, unless it is...drawn from some peer-reviewed documentation; I just wonder which? If you'll be so kind as to provide the details of such a source, that would be appreciated.

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1. Abraham was born in or near the city of Ur in lower Mesopotamia. We are his descendants and thus we ARE the Mesopotamians. That Eurocentric crap that say Mesopaotamians are non-Semitic IndoEuropean people is completely and utterly wrong!

2. Clearly Montheism was originated by Abraham before Ahkenaton in Egypt. The Egyptians learned the concept from US!

3. Arabs are the descendants of Abraham but Abraham was a Jew!

4. Islamic traditions are derived from Jews.

5. Blacks are related to Caananites not Jews. Palestinians are Egyptian and Jewish admixtures; they were our slaves. Of course, Jewish slavery is similar to African slavery in that it is much more like indentured servitude. Though we could take our slave women and have children with them.

posted 05 June 2005 08:05 PM            

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Originally posted by osirion:
1. Abraham was born in or near the city of Ur in lower Mesopotamia. We are his descendants and thus we ARE the Mesopotamians. That Eurocentric crap that say Mesopaotamians are non-Semitic IndoEuropean people is completely and utterly wrong!

2. Clearly Montheism was originated by Abraham before Ahkenaton in Egypt. The Egyptians learned the concept from US!

3. Arabs are the descendants of Abraham but Abraham was a Jew!

4. Islamic traditions are derived from Jews.

5. Blacks are related to Caananites not Jews. Palestinians are Egyptian and Jewish admixtures; they were our slaves. Of course, Jewish slavery is similar to African slavery in that it is much more like indentured servitude. Though we could take our slave women and have children with them.

I don't think you will accept my historical documents as proof. Someone like yourself may not even believe that Abraham was a real person.

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I keep an open mind on documentation, which is systematically analyzed and also supported by concrete evidence.

I try to keep religion away from objective analysis, as much as possible. With that said, religious texts, being historical documents, can be used as an aid (depending on what is being studied), though not exclusively, and supplimented by concrete evidence.

I haven't seen any peer-review analysis of what you are claiming here, much less concrete evidence corroboration. If you can come up with these, I don't see why I shouldn't be open to analyzing them.

posted 05 June 2005 08:48 PM            

The problem I feel is that you read to deep into the Old Testament, or Torah!

It's true that scripture states that Abraham originated from Ur in Mesopotamia, the problem is that scripture mentions nothing about what particular ethnic group! The peoples of the Middle-East are very diverse, especially in ancient times going back to the Neolithic. The earliest Semitic speakers that reached Mesopotamia were the Akkadians and they settled around the northern part of Mesopotamia. The southern part was inhabited by the Sumerians, whose languange doesn't seem to be related to any other known language. Archaeologists have discovered that the Sumerians were not the earliest settlers of Mesopotamia but that a people called the Ubaidians were and these were the predecessors of the Sumerians.

From what we know, the Semitic Akkadians as well as their Levanite cousins originated from central Arabia, and of course the Semitic languages were ultimately derived from east Africa. The problem is what other peoples lived in the region of the Near-East before it was assimilated by Semitic speakers?

Ausar said it himself that even Arabs are divided into Adanan and Qahtani. The Adanan are also called Arabized Arabs and originated in the north while the Qahtani are known as 'original' Arabs. What's interesting is that the earliest pictures of Semitic people come from Sumerians which portray them as a very dark-skinned people. In fact the few surving pictures of them bear a striking resemblence to the Rashiada and other tribes of southern central Arabia!

Lastly, Mesopotamian culture had influence on Semitic. This could be seen in Biblical stories of Genesis. The tree of knowledge and the tree of life, as well as the serpent are all objects associated with the ancient pre-Semitic goddesses of the Near-East!

posted 05 June 2005 09:02 PM            

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Osirion, nobody in the right mind says that Mesopotamians were Indo-Europeans; however, the earliest Mesopotamians were indeed not Semitic people!

The problem I feel is that you read to deep into the Old Testament, or Torah!

It's true that scripture states that Abraham originated from Ur in Mesopotamia, the problem is that scripture mentions nothing about what particular ethnic group! The peoples of the Middle-East are very diverse, especially in ancient times going back to the Neolithic. The earliest Semitic speakers that reached Mesopotamia were the Akkadians and they settled around the northern part of Mesopotamia. The southern part was inhabited by the Sumerians, whose languange doesn't seem to be related to any other known language. Archaeologists have discovered that the Sumerians were not the earliest settlers of Mesopotamia but that a people called the Ubaidians were and these were the predecessors of the Sumerians.

From what we know, the Semitic Akkadians as well as their Levanite cousins originated from central Arabia, and of course the Semitic languages were ultimately derived from east Africa. The problem is what other peoples lived in the region of the Near-East before it was assimilated with Semitic speakers?

Ausar said it himself that even Arabs are divided into Adanan and Qahtani. The Adanan are also called Arabized Arabs and originated in the north while the Qahtani are known as 'original' Arabs. What's interesting is that the earliest pictures of Semitic people come from Sumerians which portray them as a very dark-skinned people. In fact the few surving pictures of them bear a striking resemblence to the Rashiada and other tribes of southern central Arabia!

Lastly, Mesopotamian culture had influence on Semitic. This could be seen in Biblical stories of Genesis. The tree of knowledge and the tree of life, as well as the serpent are all objects associated with the ancient goddesses of the Near-East!

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Well, if I went strictly by the Torah then I would have to claim that all people come from Mesopatamia since the flood. This is where the tower of Babel was and so on. I have not made that arguement. It is interesting that 90% of Non-Africans do have genes that originated in Mesopatamia. Perhaps the Torah does have some things right after all. Keep in mind, I am not a Jew by belief, only heritage. To me the Torah is good Jewish literature and certainly a lot better the most ancient documents pertaining to history (not nearly as one-sided as the Egyptian or a mystical as the Greeks).

posted 05 June 2005 09:58 PM            

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Originally posted by osirion:
It is interesting that 90% of Non-Africans do have genes that originated in Mesopatamia.

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What source did you get this from?

posted 05 June 2005 10:18 PM            

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From what we know, the Semitic Akkadians as well as their Levanite cousins originated from central Arabia, and of course the Semitic languages were ultimately derived from east Africa. The problem is what other peoples lived in the region of the Near-East before it was assimilated by Semitic speakers?

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I can't validate this but I believe that the early people in areas like Catal Hyuk around in modern day Anatolia were called Proto-Mediterranean people. Whatever that means this is what old anthropologist refered to them as.

I know much of the Arabian peninsula before the Semetic speaking populations appeared were Austric[Veddoid] type people that still survive today in some Southern Yemenai people. Today they are the Mahra people,and have different customs from the northern Arabs.

We don't know much about the old pre-Semetic Near-Eastern people because they left us no written language.

It might be noteworthy that modern Europeans can trace some of their ancestral heritage back to Neolithic agritculturalists that spread out into Europe from the Near-east.

Have you heard this,Djehuti?

posted 05 June 2005 10:38 PM            

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Originally posted by ausar:
It might be noteworthy that modern Europeans can trace some of their ancestral heritage back to Neolithic agritculturalists that spread out into Europe from the Near-east.

Have you heard this,Djehuti?

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Yes I have!

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I know much of the Arabian peninsula before the Semetic speaking populations appeared were Austric[Veddoid] type people that still survive today in some Southern Yemenai people. Today they are the Mahra people,and have different customs from the northern Arabs.

We don't know much about the old pre-Semetic Near-Eastern people because they left us no written language.

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This makes no sense. Austric usually refers to aboriginal peoples of Southeast Asia, while Veddoid refers to aboriginals of Sri-Lanka and southern India. How is it Arabia has both types of these people?!

posted 05 June 2005 10:45 PM            

http://www.andaman.org/book/chapter47/text47.htm

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Originally posted by ausar:
Sorry I am no experts on ethnology of the Arabian peninsula. However, I do believe that negritos and Veddoids did exist in parts of Yemen. Here is a link about their supposed existence:

http://www.andaman.org/book/chapter47/text47.htm

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Fascinating, Ausar!!

The problem is that terms like 'Negrito' are too vague and don't say much about the exact origins of the people! Negrito is Spanish for 'little black', and has been used to describe peoples from the Pygmies of Africa all the way to the Negrito aborigines of the Philippines.

I would like to learn more about these Yemeni aboriginals, and this seems to only further prove my belief--- That the Arabian Peninsula and the Near-East in general had populations just as diverse as the Indian Subcontinent!!

posted 05 June 2005 11:03 PM            

Proc Natl Acad Sci U S A. 2000 June 6; 97(12): 6769–6774

Published online 2000 May 9.
Copyright © The National Academy of Sciences

Jewish and Middle Eastern non-Jewish populations share a common pool of Y-chromosome biallelic haplotypes

M. F. Hammer,*†‡ A. J. Redd,*† E. T. Wood,*† M. R. Bonner,* H. Jarjanazi,* T. Karafet,* S. Santachiara-Benerecetti,¶ A. Oppenheim,‖ M. A. Jobling,** T. Jenkins,‡‡ H. Ostrer,†† and B. Bonné-Tamir§

"The second most frequent Jewish haplotype, YAP+ haplotype 4, was common in Middle Eastern and southern European populations and reached its highest frequency in North Africa. The discovery of its precursor (YAP+ haplotype 4L) in seven Ethiopian males supports the hypothesis that the YAP+ haplotype 4S originated on a YAP+ 4L chromosome in Ethiopia (≈20,000 years ago), where it likely increased in frequency before spreading down the Nile River toward Egypt and the Levant (32). This hypothesis is consistent with mtDNA evidence indicating south-to-north gene flow down the Nile (45)."

posted 05 June 2005 11:18 PM            

These people live in southern central India and speak Dravidian dialects but physically are distinct from other Dravidian peoples. They are of brown complexion like many peoples in northern India but have features like prominent eye-brow ridges and cheeks, short noses, but long faces and dark wavy hair.

Many anthropologists say they originated from the Near-East probably northern Iran or Iraq but migrated to India millennia ago. The two main tribes of the Nilgiri hills are the Kota and Toda.

posted 05 June 2005 11:32 PM            

I noticed immediately that there are people there (in the Yemen) that do not resemble the Arabs in any way and that do not seem to have much to do with the Arab Yemanis even though they are part of Yemeni society. I am not an anthropologist but I think I can say with a fair degree of certainty that there are Negritos in the Yemen. I have read your description on your web-site and they alargely fit eh black-skinned Yemenis that I have see: short stature, black skin and that odd type of hair on their heads. It must be said that the Negritos in the Yemen are nto particularly noticeable because of the their short stature since the Yemeni Arabs also are not very tall (Yemeni women around 1.6 m/ 5.25 ft, men are a little taller).

The Negritos are popularly called "Black Yemenis". Nobody seems to know where they come from and how long they have been in the country. Some claim that they have been brought to the Yemen as slaves at once time or another, others say that they have "always" been living there as part of the Arab population. The "Black Yemenis" are virtually all muslims.

What has surprised me is the social status of these people. The "black Yemenis" are at the bottom of the Yemeni social structure and are despised as below even beggars. One also has to know that Arabs are highly racist: white skin = good/high, dark skin = bad/evil/low. Society is structured as follows: at the top are a few sheikhs and princes who hold religious as well as poltical power. The president of the republic also has to be counted here. At this level power is balanced and money distributed. Below are a few respected families abd clans who have chosen and hold their own corner within the system and exercise power there. The descendants of the last Qasimid Imam of San'a overthrown in 1962 belwong here. There is no middle class, really, except perhaps in the capital. That is why the poorer, less educated classes who form the mass of the population follow immediately below the upper classes. Within the lower classes there are many levels according to profession and skin colour.Still lover the the beggars and street vendors and at the very bottom are the "black Yemenis".

These people with black skin work mostly as street sweepers and in garbage removal. Female "black Yemenis" are of prostitutes. Many live in shacks and collect their food from garbage cans. I was shocked to see how they were treated by the "light-skinned" Yemenis. I have often seen how they were beated and kicked. As to myself, I have always found them quite friendly.

One incident has remained with me: I had just come back from a long trip and wanted to take my luggage from the roof of the Jeep. A "black Yemeni" passed and wanted to help me but before he could do so he was pushed aside by a light-skinned Yemeni using abusive language towards him. This new man then helped me and explained "hoa mush tamam" ("he is not a good person"). When I asked him why he said such a thing, he explained "he is black". I observed more and more that the Yemenis are afraid of the "black Yemenis" and do not want to have anything to do with them.

It is very rare to see a light-skinned Yemeni married to a dark-skinned woman. This is a taboo that prevents a mixing of Arabs and "black Yemenis".

posted 06 June 2005 02:31 PM            

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Osirin

Abraham was not a Jew, he was not even an Israelite. His grandson JACOB WAS Israel.

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Will that follows! You try to steal African heritage by your incessant denial of the African origin of Egyptian people and you also try to steal Jewish heritage by denying the most obvious of things, and that is that Abraham was the FIRT JEW.

Sure, the term JEW comes from the word Judah but regardless, Abraham is the father of what we call his descendants which are the Jews. You are just trying to play games with words such as the word Black. Most people in this forum have a race concept based on the American paradigm. Black is a matter of lineage not a matter of color. If you say that Iman is not Black, people here in America will laugh at you! Just like saying Abraham was not a Jew. If you are a descended from a Black then your ancestor was a Black person. The same is True of us Jews. If we a descended from Abraham then he was a Jew even if the term was not in use at the time of his life.

The only reason why you are ashamed of being Black is because of your White masters!

Abraham is considered the father of the Jewish faith. And our lineage is the only ligitemate one! I am not aware of any culture that would state that a child of a slave is more ligit than that of the true wife.

posted 06 June 2005 09:52 PM            

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Originally posted by osirion:
Will that follows! You try to steal African heritage by your incessant denial of the African origin of Egyptian people and you also try to steal Jewish heritage by denying the most obvious of things, and that is that Abraham was the FIRT JEW.

Sure, the term JEW comes from the word Judah but regardless, Abraham is the father of what we call his descendants which are the Jews. You are just trying to play games with words such as the word Black. Most people in this forum have a race concept based on the American paradigm. Black is a matter of lineage not a matter of color. If you say that Iman is not Black, people here in America will laugh at you! Just like saying Abraham was not a Jew. If you are a descended from a Black then your ancestor was a Black person. The same is True of us Jews. If we a descended from Abraham then he was a Jew even if the term was not in use at the time of his life.

The only reason why you are ashamed of being Black is because of your White masters!

Abraham is considered the father of the Jewish faith. And our lineage is the only ligitemate one! I am not aware of any culture that would state that a child of a slave is more ligit than that of the true wife.

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posted 06 June 2005 09:55 PM            

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Originally posted by Djehuti:
Is it possible that Abraham was a founding father of the Adanan people?

I base this on the fact that the Adanan people originated from the north and became Semitized or Arabized, and many Arab legends say that the Adanan are the ones descended from Abraham who originated from Mesopotamia!

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posted 06 June 2005 11:02 PM            

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Originally posted by osirion:
Don't foget, your Quran is really just about a modified version of Judaism. Islam is a Jewish religion just as much as Christianity and you worship a Jewish God and follow Jewish traditions.

Jews had Egyptians as slaves and it is the children that we had with these slaves that became the original Arabs. That 35% of Black African blood that is in Arabs today is from this admixture between Jew and Egyptians. Though back in those days we were not called Jews. We are the ones that built Mesopatamia. And until proven otherwise, Mesopatamia is older than Egypt. Contact between Mesopatamia and Egypt is well documented. As time goes on it will become more clear how much influence Jews had on Egyptians. Any influence would have been due to information sharing and certainly not conquest.

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posted 07 June 2005 12:29 AM            

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by osirion:
[b] Don't foget, your Quran is really just about a modified version of Judaism. Islam is a Jewish religion just as much as Christianity and you worship a Jewish God and follow Jewish traditions.

Jews had Egyptians as slaves and it is the children that we had with these slaves that became the original Arabs. That 35% of Black African blood that is in Arabs today is from this admixture between Jew and Egyptians. Though back in those days we were not called Jews. We are the ones that built Mesopatamia. And until proven otherwise, Mesopatamia is older than Egypt. Contact between Mesopatamia and Egypt is well documented. As time goes on it will become more clear how much influence Jews had on Egyptians. Any influence would have been due to information sharing and certainly not conquest.

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I am a true Jew and not a European. Most people think I am Arabic or Egyptian. I am just a Jew but I am also part Black. We are called Jews because we a descended from Judah but we trace our faith and lineage back to Abraham. We consider Abraham our father just as the Mulsim Arabs claim. However, we are the ligetement heirs of Abraham through Sarah and not the slave descendents through Hagai. As for the Quran, if you haven't noticed it contains the Torah. Like the Christians have the Old Testiment, the Quran has parts of the Torah. Allah is just another name for Elaheim Jehovah. God made a promise to the Arabs to make them a great nation and to keep them. I believe through the Islamic renaissance God has kept his promise to our cousins. However, even the Quran is accurate on the humble beginnings of the Arab people as children of an Egyptian slave (a Black woman). I am part Black and I look no different than an Arab.

As for the Palestinian conflict. There is much confusion since the Palestinians themselves are part Jewish. Many Jews converted to Islam and claim to be Arabs.

But we are suppose to be talking about Egypt. I myself practice Islam for sometime but couldn't convert due to Christian influences in my heritage and the fact the being a Jew wasn't an easy thing to explain. I am a Christian.

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Originally posted by mali:
slavery...occupation.colonialism...ect are all networks....

you need a backbone for all....

im definetly sure arab or any othere traders..portugees greeks indians persians and chinese..could not enslave the indiginous people that had traded with them...population was greater...and as you do have the mentality other then africans they werent willing to sell there fellow clansmen to other even if the didnt agree..

somalia..theres so many factors involved making it nearly impossible unless raided by otheres to enslave a town/village...As the Portugees burned down Mogduisho!! As the arabs centralized trade in the east....somalis delt with the arabs for over a milliniea...we expect nothing of them...

The benadiir are a ..MINority..and are NOT YEMINI...but more decendents of Persian traders....as well as the brawain...from BRAVA..who are the decendants of the portugees...and are distict from benadiirs and somalis because of there multi color eyes and skin color...
There were many indians and arabs from Yemen and the gulf that settled in somalia..but they were a minority 1%

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Dear forum members

I would like to forward FYI article published last year in Yemen Times regarding who are the Banaadiri, http://www.yementimes.com/article.shtml?i=728&p=culture&a=1
Regards