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Scientific Racism was an accepted part of the European and European Diasporan intelligentcia at the time. The Same racial science crap that the Nazi's used to Justify the Genocide of the Jews was also accepted and adcovated by the nations in the allied powers.
Like I said the American South's Jim Crow laws were studied by Nazi Germany, Apartied South Africa etc.
Im sure if the Nazi's hadnt went to the extreemes of enacting Genocide on the Jews, "racial science" would still be a bigger part of mainstream science.It was the shame of killing millions of Jews that the victorious allied Nations tried to pretend that they were different than what the Nazi's espoused. David Reich is a good example.
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:Originally posted by -Just Call Me Jari-: Funny how the Allied Powers dont like to talk about the Genocides they enacted on par or sometimes worse than what the Nazi's Genocide is a term used to describe violence against members of a national, ethnic, racial or religious group with the intent to destroy the entire group.
Genocide is a term used to describe violence against members of a national, ethnic, racial or religious group with the intent to destroy the entire group. What is an example of such intent made by the allies during WW II ?
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Odd how its the nations that were once apart of the Allied powers, the ones who pretended for so long that they were different than those evil Nazi's that have the largest followings of "Neo-Nazi" and Fascist ideologies...
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quote:Originally posted by -Just Call Me Jari-: Scientific Racism was an accepted part of the European and European Diasporan intelligentcia at the time. The Same racial science crap that the Nazi's used to Justify the Genocide of the Jews was also accepted and adcovated by the nations in the allied powers.
^^ this is prior to the Allied nations forming and is not part of a joint allied plan
quote:Originally posted by -Just Call Me Jari-
It was the shame of killing millions of Jews that the victorious allied Nations tried to pretend that they were different than what the Nazi's espoused.
quote:Originally posted by -Just Call Me Jari-
The four main Allied powers in WWII were
United States Soviet Union United Kingdom China
So would say each of these nations in the, say, twenty years prior were just as evil as the Nazis?
and that if the Nazis and their allies had won the war the world be no worse than it is today?
quote:Originally posted by -Just Call Me Jari-
Im sure if the Nazi's hadnt went to the extreemes of enacting Genocide on the Jews, "racial science" would still be a bigger part of mainstream science.It was the shame of killing millions of Jews that the victorious allied Nations tried to pretend that they were different than what the Nazi's espoused. David Reich is a good example.
David Reich is an example of what? He makes statements that are like Nazi propaganda ?
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quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: [qb] a ghetto in America or in Nazi Germany is not genocide
A concentration camp is not a ghetto
A concentration camp is where mass numbers of people are being killed
A ghetto could be used as part of a genocidal program but by itself is not genocide
A genocide is when mass numbers of people are being killed. There is no other definition
The ghetto condition in America was created by these demonic and extremely wicked systemic racism to marginalize (Black) people with, the goal to slowly eradicate these (Black) people. A concentration camp does it more quickly, but the aim/ endgoal is the same. That's the difference.
In order for a genocide to be occurring there would have to be a declining population of African American people in America
Which was the goal and intend with the continuous attempts (recorded history) as I already have shown.
quote: The Black Family in the Age of Mass Incarceration
“American politicians are now eager to disown a failed criminal-justice system that’s left the U.S. with the largest incarcerated population in the world. But they've failed to reckon with history. Fifty years after Daniel Patrick Moynihan’s report “The Negro Family” tragically helped create this system, it's time to reclaim his original intent.”
Unfortunate for the wicked, Black people are a diligent and blessed people. They have tried to decline the Black population in African also and have been unsuccessful there as well and they are still trying, but Africa has the largest youngest population on the planet and is still growing strong.
The more the wicked have attempted to decline the Black population worldwide, the more it backfired at their community/ population, and having them in decline, and they have't seen nothing yet, because GOD doesn't like ugly. And it's about to get really ugly for the wicked who have attempted to do this.
You once claimed that you are an original B-Girl, which means you have to be from the Bronx. Being a woman from the Bronx means you should know about gentrification and Redlining, considering that original B-Boy and B-Girls are of a certain age to know Redlining. Can you still follow the pattern, or is it getting too complicated for you?
There is a Dutch saying: "Wie veel liegt moet veel onthouden".
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quote:Originally posted by -Just Call Me Jari-: Like I said the American South's Jim Crow laws were studied by Nazi Germany, Apartheid South Africa etc.
Throughout history all of them have been connected in and with eugenics. These aren't single events of unfortunate haps.
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He makes statements that are like Nazi propaganda ?
I am not going to accuse him of this. The tactics of nazis have changed, but the face has remained the same. Just like the confederates the nazis have survived, and never have been destroyed completely.
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quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: ^^ this is prior to the Allied nations forming and is not part of a joint allied plan
True but it was a Genocide no the less. Also was the Nazi final solution a joint effort?
quote:So would say each of these nations in the, say, twenty years prior were just as evil as the Nazis?
Id say they believed in the same "science" that justified what led to the Holocaust.
quote:and that if the Nazis and their allies had won the war the world be no worse than it is today?
of course it wouldnt be, thats not my point.
quote:Originally posted by -Just Call Me Jari-
Im sure if the Nazi's hadnt went to the extreemes of enacting Genocide on the Jews, "racial science" would still be a bigger part of mainstream science.It was the shame of killing millions of Jews that the victorious allied Nations tried to pretend that they were different than what the Nazi's espoused. David Reich is a good example.
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I never said he uses Nazi Propaganda, but yes he believes in the same race science that the Nazi's used to justify their actions. Neo-Nazis and Alt-Righters across the internet are using his opinion paper to justify their beliefs.
quote:Originally posted by Ish Gebor:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
He makes statements that are like Nazi propaganda ?
I am not going to accuse him of this. The tactics of nazis have changed, but the face has remained the same. Just like the confederates the nazis have survived, and never have been destroyed completely.
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quote:Originally posted by -Just Call Me Jari-: [QB]
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: ^^ this is prior to the Allied nations forming and is not part of a joint allied plan
True but it was a Genocide no the less. Also was the Nazi final solution a joint effort?
No, the final solution was not a joint plan. The Nazi's had some people in the regions they were controlling help them some of them that hated Jews but The Axis powers' primary goal was territorial expansion at the expense of their neighbors. In ideological terms, the Axis described their goals as breaking the hegemony of the plutocratic Western powers and defending civilization from communism. The Axis championed a number of variants of fascism, militarism, and autarky.
This was also the Nazi's considered the Jews an obstacle to that and also believed in what they saw as racial purity and Jews being of another race. Obviously their Japanese allies were not of their race but they allied with them for common military - territorial aims on the short term.
quote:An element of farce had never been lacking even in Italy’s most serious efforts to adjust to its powerful friend and ally. When Mussolini, under German pressure, introduced anti-Jewish legislation in the late thirties he stipulated the usual exemptions – war veterans, Jews with high decorations, and the like – but he added one more category, namely, former members of the Fascist Party, together with their parents and grandparents, their wives and children and grandchildren. I know of no statistics relating to this matter, but the result must have been that the great majority of Italian Jews were exempted. There can hardly have been a Jewish family without at least one member in the Fascist Party, for this happened at a time when Jews, like other Italians, had been flocking for almost twenty years into the Fascist movement, since positions in the Civil Service were open only to members. And the few Jews who had objected to Fascism on principle, Socialists and Communists chiefly, were no longer in the country. Even convinced Italian anti-Semites seemed unable to take the thing seriously, and Roberto Farinacci, head of the Italian anti-Semitic movement, had a Jewish secretary in his employ… --Hannah Arendt, Eichmann in Jerusalem
quote:So would say each of these nations in the, say, twenty years prior were just as evil as the Nazis?
quote:Originally posted by -Just Call Me Jari-: Id say they believed in the same "science" that justified what led to the Holocaust.
Some of the German hatred of the Jews was also inspired by Henry Ford but America did not have state propaganda and plans saying Jews were a threat to them and vermin who needed to be eradicated. America had the KKK but in this time did not have equivalent state propaganda saying black people were a threat and need to be eradicated.
The primary goal of America in bringing black people in America was to use them for labor. This is opposite of the Nazi goals. The Nazis wanted Jews expelled. They first started deporting Jews. Then they decided to quicken the process by mass extermination. The aim of racism in America was primarily to justify the exploitation of a group of people in order to use them as slaves and then later after the slaves were freed keep them in a lower status similar to untouchable classes in caste societies. The Nazis wanted Jews forced out of the country by deportation or killed because they though they were a threat.
quote:Originally posted by -Just Call Me Jari-
Im sure if the Nazi's hadnt went to the extreemes of enacting Genocide on the Jews, "racial science" would still be a bigger part of mainstream science.It was the shame of killing millions of Jews that the victorious allied Nations tried to pretend that they were different than what the Nazi's espoused. David Reich is a good example.
David Reich is an example of what? He makes statements that are like Nazi propaganda ? [/QUOTE]
quote: Is performance on an intelligence test or the number of years of school a person attends shaped by the way a person is brought up? Of course. But does it measure something having to do with some aspect of behavior or cognition? Almost certainly. And since all traits influenced by genetics are expected to differ across populations (because the frequencies of genetic variations are rarely exactly the same across populations), the genetic influences on behavior and cognition will differ across populations, too....
How do we accommodate the biological differences between men and women? I think the answer is obvious: We should both recognize that genetic differences between males and females exist and we should accord each sex the same freedoms and opportunities regardless of those differences....
I have deep sympathy for the concern that genetic discoveries could be misused to justify racism. But as a geneticist I also know that it is simply no longer possible to ignore average genetic differences among “races.”
--David Reich
I wouldn't call this equivalent to Nazi aims. The Nazis aims were not to have a caste or slave society. They wanted to "purify" their society and took action to remove Jews, gypsies, the handicapped, homosexuals, communists and blacks from it. There were no abolitionists. They had full control and if you spoke against it you would be killed also. It is one thing to write about eugenics it is another to start the killing of mass numbers of people, though they might use eugenics concepts to try to justify it.
He says there are genetic differences between races. If you look at medical journal articles it is common that they talk about some diseases affecting "blacks" and "whites". "Asians" etc differently
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So basically his interest in map=ing the human genome has to do with proving "white superiority"? A man like that will never be honest on his findings and discovery, never!!!
And he is potentially very dangerous.
quote:Originally posted by -Just Call Me Jari-: I never said he uses Nazi Propaganda, but yes he believes in the same race science that the Nazi's used to justify their actions. Neo-Nazis and Alt-Righters across the internet are using his opinion paper to justify their beliefs.
quote:Originally posted by Ish Gebor:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
He makes statements that are like Nazi propaganda ?
I am not going to accuse him of this. The tactics of nazis have changed, but the face has remained the same. Just like the confederates the nazis have survived, and never have been destroyed completely.
So my assessment was correct? The tactics have changed, but the face is still the same.
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quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: In ideological terms, the Axis described their goals as breaking the hegemony of the plutocratic Western powers and defending civilization from communism.
Just for giggles and fun facts.
The term communism has been used and abused for describing Black peoples progression. For example, MLK was called a communist.
Western plutocracy goes back to ancient Rome and is based on feudalism. This is why there is still big money in politics.
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: Obviously their Japanese allies were not of their race but they allied with them for common military - territorial aims on the short term.
Perhaps the reason was that both strived for the ultimate power and eventually would fight each other over the final power.
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: But as a geneticist I also know that it is simply no longer possible to ignore average genetic differences among “races.”
What are these averages he's talking about?
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quote: Homelessness in Los Angeles County is a result of ‘racism in America,’ report says
A committee on the Los Angeles Homeless Services Authority concluded that homelessness in the region was a ‘byproduct’ of the unequal treatment black people experience in education, criminal justice, healthcare, employment and housing.
quote:A Groundbreaking Report Goes Deep On Black Homelessness In Los Angeles
Homelessness disproportionately affects black people in Los Angeles. Though about nine percent of Los Angeles County's total population is black-identifying, black people make up about 36 percent of the county's homeless population, according to the 2018 homeless count.
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David Reich insinuated that among other things intelligence is linked to race, this caused a general uproar in the genetics/social behavior community because his opinion is not based on fact.
Dont worry though he beats around the bush, ofuscates and puts on the mask of a "Concerned and nice" person to bamboozle people like lioness while he dog whistles to his Alt-Right and supremicist friends and supporters.
His Max Plank institution is on a roll for pushing outlandish Eurasian centric theories under the cover of DNA studies. The remodeling of Luzia because she had "African" phenotype that didnt match her Genetics, despite Genotype/Phenotype not being a correlation. Imagine a so called "Afrocentric" intitution redesigning a European bust because R1b is found in high percentage in Chad. Imagine the outcry.
makes sense that Lioness will defend this kind of behavior.. I actually thought she changed
quote:Originally posted by Ish Gebor:
quote:Originally posted by -Just Call Me Jari-: David Reich is an example of what? He makes statements that are like Nazi propaganda ?
So basically his interest in map=ing the human genome has to do with proving "white superiority"? A man like that will never be honest on his findings and discovery, never!!!
And he is potentially very dangerous.
quote:Originally posted by -Just Call Me Jari-: I never said he uses Nazi Propaganda, but yes he believes in the same race science that the Nazi's used to justify their actions. Neo-Nazis and Alt-Righters across the internet are using his opinion paper to justify their beliefs.
quote:Originally posted by Ish Gebor:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
He makes statements that are like Nazi propaganda ?
I am not going to accuse him of this. The tactics of nazis have changed, but the face has remained the same. Just like the confederates the nazis have survived, and never have been destroyed completely.
So my assessment was correct? The tactics have changed, but the face is still the same.
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quote:Originally posted by Ish Gebor: [QB] This is genocide, through policies.
Exploitation, discrimination and poor conditions of "minority" groups which occurs in various places in the world is not genocide unless mass numbers of people are dying and are at threat of extinction.
The Nazis wanted the Jews and other groups out of Germany. Germans who disagreed were killed. They first deported some "ethnic cleansing" but them later developed an extermination program, aka genocide. A genocide of The Herero and Namaqua in Namibia had also occurred between 1904-1908. 80% of Herero and 50% of Namaqua were killed. In 1922 the Ottomans in Turkey killed 1.5 million Armenians, around 50% of the population. 90% to 97% of the Circassian population died due to the Russian Empire.
There are many genocides that most of us rarely hear about
Europeans and Americans did the opposite. Instead of trying to remove a population they brought in millions of Africans in to the country.
The purpose was to use them for forced labor and not pay them.
By the peak of slavery American slave traders had figured out that is was much more efficient to "breed" slaves domestically because large numbers of imported slaves died due poor conditions. When the operation became focused on birthing slaves domestically black birth rates were higher than white birth rates. There were some abolitionists but they did not prevail. Racism was used in this case as a propaganda tool to to justify the exploitation. It is comparable to Caste systems and other lower status imposed on groups in various parts of the world
quote:Originally posted by -Just Call Me Jari-: David Reich insinuated that among other things intelligence is linked to race, this caused a general uproar in the genetics/social behavior community because his opinion is not based on fact.
thousands of articles pop up describing biological differences
Do you think it is acceptable that research is conducted grouping people into these categories?
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jari, note I changed your Charlottesville pics to URL in an earlier post because their bigness makes for unpleasant side scrolling for the forum.
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quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: Exploitation, discrimination and poor conditions of "minority" groups which occurs in various places in the world is not genocide unless mass numbers of people are dying and are at threat of extinction.
That's a funny comment, because in the many encounters I've had, ONLY WHITE SUPREMACIST made these type of comments, when it comes to the justice/ injustice for Black Americans (ADOS).
We are speaking of 400 hundred years of terrorism and continues attacks on the Black community in North America, so what the HELL are you talking about?
White SUPREMACIST have attempted in many ways to annihilate the Black population, but haven't succeeded.
After every Reconstruction they have attempted to hurt the Black population, by putting in Laws and Acts to disfranchised and marginalize them in order to ANNIHILATE them.
But perhaps you can give some examples of these hypothetical communities you are talking about that supposedly have experienced the same continues horror within the last 400 years? From slavery, to the Antebellum, to the Black Codes, to Convict Leasing, to Redlining, to the Southern Strategy, to the Prison to pipeline system etc… (to name a few).
Show me populations that have been forced into poverty after the Reconstruction, arose out of it, and were pushed back into poverty after white SUPREMACIST destroyed after prospering city and town they had and killed hundreds of Black people. Where is their Jim Crow? Where is their Southern Strategy?
I'll await your reply.
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Antebellum Urban Violence
Christina (Pennsylvania) Riot, 1851 Cincinnati Riots, 1829 Cincinnati Race Riots, 1836 The Pennsylvania Hall Fire, 1838
Civil War, Reconstruction, and Post-Reconstruction Era Violence
Detroit Race Riot, 1863 New York City Draft Riots, 1863 Memphis Riot, 1866 New Orleans Massacre, 1866 Pulaski Race Riot, 1868 Opelousas Massacre, 1868 The Meridian Race Riot, 1871 Chicot County Race War, 1871 The Colfax Massacre, 1873 Clinton (Mississippi) Riot, 1875 Hamburg Massacre, 1876 Carroll County Courthouse Massacre, 1886 Thibodaux Massacre, 1887 New Orleans Dockworkers’ Riot, 1894-1895 Wilmington Race Riot, 1898 Newburg, New York Race Riot, 1899
Race Riots, 1900-1960
Robert Charles Riot (New Orleans), 1900 New York City Race Riot, 1900 Atlanta Race Riot, 1906 Springfield, Illinois Race Riot, 1908 East St. Louis Race Riot, 1917 Chester, Pennsylvania Race Riot, 1917 Houston Mutiny and Race Riot, 1917 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Race Riot, 1918 Charleston (South Carolina) Riot, 1919 Washington, D.C. Riot, 1919 Chicago Race Riot, 1919 Knoxville Race Riot, 1919 Elaine, Arkansas Riot, 1919 Tulsa Race Riot, 1921 Rosewood Massacre, 1923 Harlem Race Riot, 1935 Beaumont Race Riot, 1943 Detroit Race Riot, 1943
Urban Uprisings, 1960-2000
Cambridge, Maryland Riot, 1963 The Harlem Race Riot, 1964 Rochester Rebellion, 1964 Jersey City Uprising, 1964 Paterson, New Jersey Uprising, 1964 Elizabeth, New Jersey Uprising, 1964 Chicago (Dixmoor) Riots, 1964 Philadelphia Race Riot, 1964 Watts Rebellion (Los Angeles), 1965 Cleveland’s Hough Riots, 1966 Chicago, Illinois Uprising, 1966 The Dayton, Ohio Uprising, 1966 Hunter’s Point, San Francisco Uprising, 1966 Newark Race Riot, 1967 Plainfield, New Jersey Riot, 1967 Detroit Race Riot, 1967 Flint, Michigan Riot, 1967 Tuscon Race Riot, 1967 Grand Rapids, Michigan Uprising, 1967 The King Assassination Riots, 1968 Hartford, Connecticut Riot, 1969 Asbury Park Race Riot, 1970 Camden, New Jersey Riots, 1969 and 1971 Miami (Liberty City) Riot, 1980 Crown Heights (Brooklyn) New York Riot, 1991 Rodney King Riot, 1992 West Las Vegas Riot, 1992 St. Petersburg, Florida Riot, 1996
College Campus Violence
University of Georgia Desegregation Riot, 1961 Ole Miss Riot, 1962 Houston (Texas Southern University) Riot, 1967 Orangeburg Massacre, 1968 Jackson State Killings, 1970
quote:Generally speaking, genocide does not necessarily mean the immediate destruction of a nation, except when accomplished by mass killings of all members of a nation. It is intended rather to signify a coordinated plan of different actions aimed at the destruction of essential foundations of the life of national groups, with the aim of annihilating the groups themselves.
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: Europeans and Americans did the opposite. Instead of trying to remove a population they brought in millions of Africans in to the country.
More people DIED during the middle passage (Transatlantic Slave Trade) than survived. They suffered immense brutal pain. Physically and emotionally (which we now describe as epigenetics).
quote:Slavery and the slave trade are among the worst violations of human rights in the history of humanity. The transatlantic slave trade was unique within the entire history of slavery due to its duration (four hundred years), its scale (approximately 17 million people excluding those who died during transport) and the legitimization accorded to it, including under laws of the time.
quote:Originally posted by -Just Call Me Jari-: David Reich insinuated that among other things intelligence is linked to race, this caused a general uproar in the genetics/social behavior community because his opinion is not based on fact.
thousands of articles pop up describing biological differences
Do you think it is acceptable that research is conducted grouping people into these categories?
There is a differences between studying people as in biological entity in situ versus making crazy claims that people are intelligent or less intelligent based on the geographical location.
“As we'll see, other genetic data corroborates the mitochondrial results, placing the root of the human family tree - our most recent common ancestor- in Africa within the past few hundred thousand years. Consistent with this result, all of the genetic data shows the greatest number of polymorphisms in Africa - there is simply far more variation in that continent than anywhere else. You are more likely to sample extremely divergent genetic lineages within a single African village than you are in whole of the rest of the world. The majority of the genetic polymorphisms found in our species are found uniquely in Africans - Europeans, Asians and Native Americans carry only a small sample of the extraordinary diversity that can be found in any African village.
Why does diversity indicate greater age? Thinking back to our hypothetical Provencal village, why do the bouillabaisse recipes change? Because in each generation, a daughter decides to modify her soup in a minor way. Over time, these small variations add up to an extraordinary amount of diversity in the village's kitchens. And - critically - the longer the village has been accumulating these changes, the more diverse it is. It is like a clock, ticking away in units of rosemary and thyme - the longer it has been ticking, the more differences we see. It is the same phenomenon Emile Zuckerkandl noted in his proteins - more time equals more change. So, when we see greater genetic diversity in a particular population, we can infer that the population is older - and this makes Africa the oldest of all.” ~Dr Spencer Wells, 2004, The Journey of Man: A Genetic Odyssey, p 39..
Africa not only has the highest levels of human genetic variation in the world but also contains a considerable amount of linguistic, environmental and cultural diversity. For example, more than 2,000 distinct ethno-linguistic groups, representing nearly a third of the world’s languages, currently exist in Africa ~Michael C. Campbell1 and Sarah A. Tishkoff, (2010) The Evolution of Human Genetic and Phenotypic Variation in Africa
"Ancient DNA is the only tool we have for characterizing past genomic diversity. It teaches us things we don't know about history from archaeology and linguistics and can help us better understand present-day populations," said Pontus Skoglund, a postdoctoral researcher in the Reich lab and the study's first author. "We need to ensure we use it for the benefit of all populations around the world, *perhaps especially Africa, which contains the greatest human genetic diversity in the world but has been underserved by the genomics community.*
“Although ancient-DNA research has revealed insights into the population histories of many areas of the world, delving into the deep ancestry of African groups wasn't possible until recently because genetic material degrades too rapidly in warm, humid climates.” Read more at: https://phys.org/news/2017-09-ancient-human-dna-sub-saharan-africa.html#jCp
Brenna Henn: ”AND WITHIN EACH OF THESE GROUPS THERE IS AN AMAZING AMOUNT OF DIVERSITY, […] THE DIVERSITY IS INDIGENOUS TO AFRICAN POPULATIONS”:
Tracing Family Trees, And Human History, With Genetics
quote:Originally posted by Ish Gebor: 400 hundred years of terrorism and continues attacks on the Black community in North America, so what the HELL are you talking about?
White SUPREMACIST have attempted in many ways to annihilate the Black population, but haven't succeeded.
Terrorism and attacks could be used as part a genocidal program but unless there was a significant numerical decline in a population a genocide did not occur
The word genocide does not just mean "treating people badly" It means treating people badly to the extent that there is a large numerical decline in their numbers.
The KKK is at terrorist group but never had the power to annihilate the black population.
The U.S. government did have that ability and could done it with the military
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quote:Originally posted by Ish Gebor: 400 hundred years of terrorism and continues attacks on the Black community in North America, so what the HELL are you talking about?
White SUPREMACIST have attempted in many ways to annihilate the Black population, but haven't succeeded.
Terrorism and attacks could be used as part a genocidal program but unless there was a significant numerical decline in a population a genocide did not occur
The word genocide does not just mean "treating people badly" It means treating people badly to the extent that there is a large numerical decline in their numbers.
The KKK is at terrorist group but never had the power to annihilate the black population.
"population a genocide did not occur"
YOU ARE HILARIOUS! YOU DON'T KNOW AMERICAN HISTORY AND YOU ARE NOT BLACK, let alone a Black American, let alone an educated Black American, let alone a Black American trained in Africana-studies! lol
DURING THE KKK 1930'S HAD MORE THAT 30-THOUSAND MEMBERS, MARCHING THE STREETS of AMERICA! Members consisted out of average redneck ignoramus's and well educated white folks!
THE KKK IN ONLY THE ORGANIZED FORM OF WHITE SUPREMACY, THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S THE ONLY FORM!
The fact that you can't see and don't know the difference, tells a lot about you. First-and-for-most it tells that you are not a Black woman as you have claimed all along.
When we study the images of the old lynch-mobs, we see people in three piece suits! YA' DIG?
THE ETYMOLOGY LITERATELY DISPUTES YOUR VERY AND UTTERLY IGNORANT CLAIMS!
Let me repeat it again for you,
quote:Generally speaking, genocide does not necessarily mean the immediate destruction of a nation, except when accomplished by mass killings of all members of a nation. It is intended rather to signify a coordinated plan of different actions aimed at the destruction of essential foundations of the life of national groups, with the aim of annihilating the groups themselves.
Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide
Article II
In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
A) Killing members of the group; B) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; C) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; D) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; E) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
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Elements of the crime
The popular understanding of what constitutes genocide tends to be broader than the content of the norm under international law. Article II of the Genocide Convention contains a narrow definition of the crime of genocide, which includes two main elements:
1) A mental element: the "intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such"; and
2) A physical element, which includes the following five acts, enumerated exhaustively:
Killing members of the group
Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group
Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part
Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group
Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group
The U.S. government did have that ability and could done it with the military
SO YOU CLAIM THEY NEVER HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN ANY ATROCITY KILING OFF BLACK AMERICANS?
WHAT HAS PREVENTED THIS FROM EVER HAPPENING IS THAT BLACKS ALWAYS HAVE MADE UP A SIGNIFICANT LARGE PORTION OF THE U.S. MILITARY, SO CALLED "BLACK WOMAN".
The fact that the (your) conference lost should ring a bell.
Does the Fort Pillow Massacre RING A BELL?
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The U.S. government did have that ability and could done it with the military
SO YOU CLAIM THEY NEVER HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN ANY ATROCITY KILING OFF BLACK AMERICANS? IF YOU CLAIM THIS IT MEANS THAT YOU ARE EVEN DUMBER THAN A BOX OF ROCKS. LOL
WHAT HAS PREVENTED THIS FROM EVER HAPPENING IS THAT BLACKS ALWAYS HAVE MADE UP A SIGNIFICANT LARGE PORTION OF THE U.S. MILITARY, SO CALLED "BLACK WOMAN".
Racist mistreatment of black people occurred but the American government allowed black people to join the military and this prevented a genocide from ever happening, This is what you are saying
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The U.S. government did have that ability and could done it with the military
SO YOU CLAIM THEY NEVER HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN ANY ATROCITY KILING OFF BLACK AMERICANS? IF YOU CLAIM THIS IT MEANS THAT YOU ARE EVEN DUMBER THAN A BOX OF ROCKS. LOL
WHAT HAS PREVENTED THIS FROM EVER HAPPENING IS THAT BLACKS ALWAYS HAVE MADE UP A SIGNIFICANT LARGE PORTION OF THE U.S. MILITARY, SO CALLED "BLACK WOMAN".
Racist mistreatment of black people occurred but the American government allowed black people to join the military and this prevented a genocide from ever happening, This is what you are saying
Do you even understand the Civil War and Reconstruction? lol smh
quote:The Department of Homeland Security fumbled a domestic terrorism report in 2009 that warned about right-wing militias targeting the U.S. Army for recruits.
This was another misnomer you've made, because it still is occurring and prevalent numbers.
Tell me "educated Black woman"/ "original B-Girl", how deeply involved are you in the Black community, because you seem to be a bit abstracted and out-of-touch with Black lives in America?
You seem to have this trait to dismiss and minimise every atrocity that happened to Black American all throughout American history, and to a larger degree the global Black population. This is not based on my opinion, but based on observing you over the years.
Your way of reasoning is much inline with this way of absurd thinking.
"No, America Wasn’t Built On Slavery, But Faith That All Men Are Created Equal"
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Even the etymology explained it, yet are you are with your "I am white and I say so", white supremacy attitude!
quote:Generally speaking, genocide does not necessarily mean the immediate destruction of a nation, except when accomplished by mass killings of all members of a nation. It is intended rather to signify a coordinated plan of different actions aimed at the destruction of essential foundations of the life of national groups, with the aim of annihilating the groups themselves.
You have absolutely NOTHING TO DO WITH THE BLACK COMMUNITY, imposter!
Does Margaret Sanger ring a bell?
quote:Sanger’s eugenics project carried its own racial preoccupation. In a letter of Dec. 10, 1939, to Clarence Gamble (cited here), she explains the nature of her organization’s outreach to the African-American community: “The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We don’t want the word to get out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members.” In her autobiography she proudly recounts her address to the women of the Ku Klux Klan in Silver Lake, N.J., in 1926.
quote:"Birth Control or Race Control? Sanger and the Negro Project"
The Negro Project, instigated in 1939 by Margaret Sanger, was one of the first major undertakings of the new Birth Control Federation of America (BCFA), the product of a merger between the American Birth Control League and Sanger's Birth Control Clinical Research Bureau, and one of the more controversial campaigns of the birth control movement. Developed by white birth control reformers, who consulted with African-Americans for help in promoting the project only well after its inception, the Negro Project and associated campaigns were, nevertheless, widely supported by such black leaders as Mary McLeod Bethune, W. E. B. DuBois, and Rev. Adam Clayton Powell, Jr. Influenced strongly by both the eugenics movement and the progressive welfare programs of the New Deal era, the Negro Project was, from the start, largely indifferent to the needs of the black community and constructed in terms and with perceptions that today smack of racism.
quote:Despite ranking first in per capita health care spending, the United States ranks only 55th out of 225 countries (in order of low to high) for infant mortality rates,[1] with 5.8 deaths per 1,000 live births. Moreover, this rank hides large racial disparities. Black[2] infants die twice as often (11.1 deaths per 1,000 live births) as non-Hispanic white infants (4.8 deaths per 1,000 live births), and the U.S. Black infant mortality rate is higher than in 97 countries worldwide. To effectively reduce this level of infant mortality, the U.S. must first address one of its root causes: low birthweight, which accumulating evidence suggests is caused in part by Black women’s stress.
~ESTHER GROSS, VICTORIA EFETEVBIA, ALEXANDRIA WILKINS, APR 18, 2019, Racism and sexism against Black women may contribute to high rates of Black infant mortality
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Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide
Article II
In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
[i]A) Killing members of the group; B) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; C) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; D) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; E) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
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So if a person who hates a particular race shoots a couple of people of that particular race for no other reason that they were of that particular race then the U.N. is recording that as a genocide?
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I edited a bunch of insults you had in your posts. If you keep doing that I'm deleting the whole post.
I am not arguing anything about crimes and atrocities committed against black people
I am talking about word usage. The U.S. has laws against what they call hate crimes. Other countries have similar laws. But they don't call these each of these crimes genocides. ______________________________
wikipedia
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Genocide
In 1944, Raphael Lemkin created the term genocide in his book Axis Rule in Occupied Europe.
Before 1944, various terms, including "massacre", "crimes against humanity", and "extermination"[9] were used to describe intentional, systematic killings. In 1941, Winston Churchill, when describing the German invasion of the Soviet Union, spoke of "a crime without a name".
In 1944, Raphael Lemkin created the term genocide in his book Axis Rule in Occupied Europe. The book describes the implementation of Nazi policies in occupied Europe, and cites earlier mass killings. The term described the systematic destruction of a nation or people, and the word was quickly adopted by many in the international community.
Lemkin defined genocide as follows:
quote:
Generally speaking, genocide does not necessarily mean the immediate destruction of a nation, except when accomplished by mass killings of all members of a nation. It is intended rather to signify a coordinated plan of different actions aiming at the destruction of essential foundations of the life of national groups, with the aim of annihilating the groups themselves. The objectives of such a plan would be the disintegration of the political and social institutions, of culture, language, national feelings, religion, and the economic existence of national groups, and the destruction of the personal security, liberty, health, dignity, and even the lives of the individuals belonging to such groups.
It says the term described the systematic destruction of a nation or people.
wikipedia
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Pogrom
First recorded in 1882 in Russia A pogrom is a violent riot aimed at the massacre or persecution of an ethnic or religious group
the low level of organization separates them from vigilantism, terrorism, massacre and genocide"
So there was a word used to describe killings of Jews "Pogom" before World War II Yet it is not defined as genocide because it was not a large coordinated plan
Sometimes a person goes into a public place and kills people of a particular group because they are a part of that group but this is not called a "genocide". The news wouldn't call it a genocide, nor would the courts or the United Nations. A genocide as defined by the man who created the term is a systematic large scale coordinated plan with the aim of annihilating the group successfully carried out. If it's not carried out a genocide did not occur just like a homicide is not a homicide if it was just an idea someone had. You could call it a homicidal or genocidal thoughts but a homicide or genocide has not occurred unless it occurred Also the definition of genocide is not "a racially motivated murder". It includes that but it is multiple murders in a coordinated plan to intentionally annihilate a group and where the population of the group is going down significantly. That is the context of which the term was created.
Another example I already mentioned
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
A genocide of The Herero and Namaqua in Namibia had also occurred between 1904-1908. 80% of Herero and 50% of Namaqua were killed.
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: I am not arguing anything about crimes and atrocities committed against black people
I am talking about word usage. The U.S. has laws against what they call hate crimes. Other countries have similar laws. But they don't call these each of these crimes genocides.
U.S. has laws?
quote:Section 1091 of Title 18, United States Code, prohibits genocide whether committed in time of peace or time of war. Genocide is defined in § 1091 and includes violent attacks with the specific intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group. There is Federal jurisdiction if the offense is committed within the United States. There is also Federal extraterritorial jurisdiction when the offender is a national of the United States
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: It says the term described the systematic destruction of a nation or people.
Systemic racist policies to DELIBERATELY target Black people is a historical fact! And the physical violent attacks and killing of thousands upon thousands have occurred as well. This is how 6 million Black Americans became displaced Redlined and forced into Governmental housing projects, also known as Ghetto's, where they have been targeted with poverty and drugs being pushed into those communities, leading for Black males to be mass incarcerated, while thousands of police killings have been justified with impunity!
So yeah, there you have it.
quote:Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
quote:Exclusive: Lee Atwater’s Infamous 1981 Interview on the Southern Strategy
“You start out in 1954 by saying, “Nigger, nigger, nigger.” By 1968 you can’t say “nigger”—that hurts you, backfires. So you say stuff like, uh, forced busing, states’ rights, and all that stuff, and you’re getting so abstract. Now, you’re talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you’re talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is, blacks get hurt worse than whites.… “We want to cut this,” is much more abstract than even the busing thing, uh, and a hell of a lot more abstract than “Nigger, nigger.”
quote:A recent UNICEF report found that the U.S. ranked 34th on the list of 35 developed countries surveyed on the well-being of children. According to the Pew Institute, children under the age of 18 are the most impoverished age population of Americans, and African-American children are almost four times as likely as white children to be in poverty.
~Alma Carten, August 22, 2016, The Racist Roots of Welfare Reform American welfare policy historically targeted poor black families.
quote: Watch: Ronald Reagan and his ‘War on Drugs’ “October 14, 1982, President Ronald Reagan declared a “war on drugs,” doubling-down on an initiative that was started by Richard Nixon.”
A war on drugs they themselves started to kill off and lock up as many Black people as possible.
quote: Richard Nixon used America’s ‘war on drugs’ as excuse to target ‘anti-war left and black people,’ claims former aide
The civil rights leader, Rev Al Sharpton, said that John Ehrlichman’s remarks were ‘a frightening confirmation of what many of us have been saying for years’
quote:The Black Family in the Age of Mass Incarceration
“American politicians are now eager to disown a failed criminal-justice system that’s left the U.S. with the largest incarcerated population in the world. But they've failed to reckon with history. Fifty years after Daniel Patrick Moynihan’s report “The Negro Family” tragically helped create this system, it's time to reclaim his original intent.”
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: So if a person who hates a particular race shoots a couple of people of that particular race for no other reason that they were of that particular race then the U.N. is recording that as a genocide?
Logic is not your friend!
We are speaking of continues attacks, not some single events here and there.
quote:Why Police Kill Black Males with Impunity: Applying Public Health Critical Race Praxis (PHCRP) to Address the Determinants of Policing Behaviors and “Justifiable” Homicides in the USA
quote:When a white person kills a black man in America, the killer often faces no legal consequences.
In one in six of these killings, there is no criminal sanction, according to a new Marshall Project examination of 400,000 homicides committed by civilians between 1980 and 2014. That rate is far higher than ones for homicides involving other combinations of races.
Daniel Lathrop and Anna Flagg, Aug. 14, 2017 Policing in Black and White
This added up with the long history of terrorism and indirect and direct genocidal acts on the Black community.
I edited a bunch of insults you had in your posts. If you keep doing that I'm deleting the whole post.
Keep doing your hideous racism. The Admin will be (and already once has been) notified about your history of racism and the constant insults you throw towards blacks in general, but specifically African Americans.
What was so insulting to you for it to remove it?
quote:The history of slavery in the United States justifies reparations for African Americans, argues a recent report by a U.N.-affiliated group based in Geneva.
This conclusion was part of a study by the United Nations’ Working Group of Experts on People of African Descent, a body that reports to the international organization’s High Commissioner on Human Rights. The group of experts, which includes leading human rights lawyers from around the world, presented its findings to the United Nations Human Rights Council on Monday, pointing to the continuing link between present injustices and the dark chapters of American history.l
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The communities you post about here have experienced this temporarily. And yes, was terrible. But I asked for examples that show continuity, going back decades/ centuries.
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
wikipedia
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Genocide
In 1944, Raphael Lemkin created the term genocide in his book Axis Rule in Occupied Europe.
Before 1944, various terms, including "massacre", "crimes against humanity", and "extermination"[9] were used to describe intentional, systematic killings. In 1941, Winston Churchill, when describing the German invasion of the Soviet Union, spoke of "a crime without a name".
In 1944, Raphael Lemkin created the term genocide in his book Axis Rule in Occupied Europe. The book describes the implementation of Nazi policies in occupied Europe, and cites earlier mass killings. The term described the systematic destruction of a nation or people, and the word was quickly adopted by many in the international community.
Lemkin defined genocide as follows:
quote:
Generally speaking, genocide does not necessarily mean the immediate destruction of a nation, except when accomplished by mass killings of all members of a nation. It is intended rather to signify a coordinated plan of different actions aiming at the destruction of essential foundations of the life of national groups, with the aim of annihilating the groups themselves. The objectives of such a plan would be the disintegration of the political and social institutions, of culture, language, national feelings, religion, and the economic existence of national groups, and the destruction of the personal security, liberty, health, dignity, and even the lives of the individuals belonging to such groups.
It says the term described the systematic destruction of a nation or people.
wikipedia
quote:
Pogrom
First recorded in 1882 in Russia A pogrom is a violent riot aimed at the massacre or persecution of an ethnic or religious group
the low level of organization separates them from vigilantism, terrorism, massacre and genocide"
So there was a word used to describe killings of Jews "Pogom" before World War II Yet it is not defined as genocide because it was not a large coordinated plan
Sometimes a person goes into a public place and kills people of a particular group because they are a part of that group but this is not called a "genocide". The news wouldn't call it a genocide, nor would the courts or the United Nations. A genocide as defined by the man who created the term is a systematic large scale coordinated plan with the aim of annihilating the group successfully carried out. If it's not carried out a genocide did not occur just like a homicide is not a homicide if it was just an idea someone had. You could call it a homicidal or genocidal thoughts but a homicide or genocide has not occurred unless it occurred Also the definition of genocide is not "a racially motivated murder". It includes that but it is multiple murders in a coordinated plan to intentionally annihilate a group and where the population of the group is going down significantly. That is the context of which the term was created.
Another example I already mentioned
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
A genocide of The Herero and Namaqua in Namibia had also occurred between 1904-1908. 80% of Herero and 50% of Namaqua were killed.
It's laughable how you try to frame the meaning of the word, with some B.S. wikipedia page and nonsense arguments, while the United Nations explains the meaning and interpretation of what the word genocide means!
quote:Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
You are so upset with the fact that white supremacist never succeeded and will not succeed. Wait..., let me phrase it different by shifting a few words. So are you upset with the fact that white supremacist never succeeded and will not succeed?
Four hundred years ago, on August 20, 1619, a ship carrying more than 20 enslaved Africans arrived in Virginia. Tonight, we remember this anniversary with an evening of conversation and performance featuring Nikole Hannah-Jones, Wesley Morris, Jamelle Bouie, Tyehimba Jess and more.
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"the low level of organization separates them from vigilantism, terrorism, massacre and genocide"
All of the above happend to Black Americans. So what is it you're trying to explain here?
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quote:Originally posted by Ish Gebor: Keep doing your hideous racism. The Admin will be (and already once has been) notified about your history of racism and the constant insults you throw towards blacks in general, but specifically African Americans.
What was so insulting to you for it to remove it?
You can't call people stupid and dumb in this forum posts doing so will be deleted
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quote:Originally posted by Ish Gebor: [QB] The communities you post about here have experienced this temporarily. And yes, was terrible. But I asked for examples that show continuity, going back decades/ centuries.
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: [qb]
wikipedia
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Genocide
In 1944, Raphael Lemkin created the term genocide in his book Axis Rule in Occupied Europe.
Before 1944, various terms, including "massacre", "crimes against humanity", and "extermination"[9] were used to describe intentional, systematic killings. In 1941, Winston Churchill, when describing the German invasion of the Soviet Union, spoke of "a crime without a name".
In 1944, Raphael Lemkin created the term genocide in his book Axis Rule in Occupied Europe. The book describes the implementation of Nazi policies in occupied Europe, and cites earlier mass killings. The term described the systematic destruction of a nation or people, and the word was quickly adopted by many in the international community.
Lemkin defined genocide as follows: \
Generally speaking, genocide does not necessarily mean the immediate destruction of a nation, except when accomplished by mass killings of all members of a nation. It is intended rather to signify a coordinated plan of different actions aiming at the destruction of essential foundations of the life of national groups, with the aim of annihilating the groups themselves. The objectives of such a plan would be the disintegration of the political and social institutions, of culture, language, national feelings, religion, and the economic existence of national groups, and the destruction of the personal security, liberty, health, dignity, and even the lives of the individuals belonging to such groups.
It says the term described the systematic destruction of a nation or people.
wikipedia
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It's laughable how you try to frame the meaning of the word, with some B.S. wikipedia page and nonsense arguments, while the United Nations explains the meaning and interpretation of what the word genocide means!
I don't know why you are saying it's laughable that I posted the name of the person who invented the word genocide and the context of which he invented the word. Why that would be laughable to you I don't know.
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The King Alfred Plan describes all of the above I've mentioned prior! And even long befit that time the Black poplin was subjugated to extinction. as white right wing tried an tried. And now is the loud outcry which will resonate and cause major damage to the white right wing very existence, as the metaphysical shifts in the realm of space! The touch will be unforgiving, because white supremacy had time to correct their errors and wickedness! Now it's GAME OVER for white supremacy!
quote:systematic (adj.) 1670s, "pertaining to a system," from French systématique or directly from Late Latin systematicus, from Greek systematikos "combined in a whole," from systema (genitive systematos); see system. From 1789 as "methodical," often in a bad sense, "ruthlessly methodical." Related: Systematical (1660s); systematically.
quote:In the 1990s, Democrats helped shift the national conversation away from systemic racism. If the country’s first black president could not disrupt the racial status quo, what can we expect Hillary Clinton to accomplish? […] It has now been 19 months since Obama’s commission on policing in the 21st century released its report and offered 58 recommendations for reform. The police have killed more than 1,000 people in that time. Furthermore, for all the publicity that some cases have received, it is more likely than not that the police officers will not even be charged, let alone punished.
You have tried and tried, but only dug a grave deeper and deeper for yourself, each and very time you came with a new outrageous utterly disguising argument!
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quote:Originally posted by Ish Gebor: Keep doing your hideous racism. The Admin will be (and already once has been) notified about your history of racism and the constant insults you throw towards blacks in general, but specifically African Americans.
What was so insulting to you for it to remove it?
You can't call people stupid and dumb in this forum posts doing so will be deleted
So will you!
And over course you still haven't shown communities I've asked for, that show continuity in going back decades/ centuries experiencing the systemic atrocities and attacks on extinction!
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: I don't know why you are saying it's laughable that I posted the name of the person who invented the word genocide and the context of which he invented the word. Why that would be laughable to you I don't know.
Tell me who know has better understanding of the meaning and interpretation. You or the United Nations? lol
"Generally speaking, genocide does not necessarily mean the immediate destruction of a nation, except when accomplished by mass killings of all members of a nation. It is intended rather to signify a coordinated plan of different actions aiming at the destruction of essential foundations of the life of national groups, with the aim of annihilating the groups themselves.
The objectives of such a plan would be the disintegration of the political and social institutions, of culture, language, national feelings, religion, and the economic existence of national groups, and the destruction of the personal security, liberty, health, dignity, and even the lives of the individuals belonging to such groups."
All of the above has been used systemically against Black Americans, ADOS as they refer to themselves nowadays.
What exactly is it you want?
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quote:Originally posted by Ish Gebor: Tell me who know has better understanding of the meaning and interpretation. You are the United Nations? lol
"Generally speaking, genocide does not necessarily mean the immediate destruction of a nation, except when accomplished by mass killings of all members of a nation. It is intended rather to signify a coordinated plan of different actions aiming at the destruction of essential foundations of the life of national groups, with the aim of annihilating the groups themselves.
The objectives of such a plan would be the disintegration of the political and social institutions, of culture, language, national feelings, religion, and the economic existence of national groups, and the destruction of the personal security, liberty, health, dignity, and even the lives of the individuals belonging to such groups."
Why are you talking about the United Nations and then showing a quote not written by the United Nations?
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^^ that is where name calling occurred. That means the post gets deleted
In my previous post is a quote. It might appear on the U.N. website but it was not written by the U.N. nor was it written by an employee of the U.N. and it did not first appear in a U.N. publication
I don't understand why you refuse to properly credit the quote to the man who invented the word "genocide". You can only understand a word if you go to it's origin and then secondly consider it's s usage over the years
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quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: ^^ that is where name calling occurred. That means the post gets deleted
In my previous post is a quote. It might appear on the U.N. website but it was not written by the U.N. nor was it written by an employee of the U.N. and it did not first appear in a U.N. publication
I don't understand why you refuse to properly credit the quote to the man who invented the word "genocide". You can only understand a word if you go to it's origin and then secondly consider it's s usage over the years
Racists never can handle the truth
Secondly you are no linguist by far, so your judgement on the linguistic phylum and root-words is just irrelevant. lol
So when people cite the UN you are now just starting to delete posts, like a coward!? lol
How would you like it for your posts to be deleted? Perhaps you want to contact the United Nations. lol
All this behavior by you, here now and over the many years will be addressed at the Admin.
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quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: You can't call people stupid and dumb in this forum posts doing so will be deleted
And over course you still haven't shown communities I've asked for, that show continuity in going back decades/ centuries experiencing the systemic atrocities and attacks on extinction!
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: I don't know why you are saying it's laughable that I posted the name of the person who invented the word genocide and the context of which he invented the word. Why that would be laughable to you I don't know.
Tell me, who has better understanding of the meaning and interpretation of the word. You are the United Nations? lol
"Generally speaking, genocide does not necessarily mean the immediate destruction of a nation, except when accomplished by mass killings of all members of a nation. It is intended rather to signify a coordinated plan of different actions aiming at the destruction of essential foundations of the life of national groups, with the aim of annihilating the groups themselves.
The objectives of such a plan would be the disintegration of the political and social institutions, of culture, language, national feelings, religion, and the economic existence of national groups, and the destruction of the personal security, liberty, health, dignity, and even the lives of the individuals belonging to such groups."
All of the above has been used systemically against Black Americans, ADOS as they refer to themselves nowadays.
What exactly is it you want? What does it benefit you to insist that it's not an attempt to systemic genocide? hmm...?
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Tukuler
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quote:Originally posted by Tukuler:
After effect of colonization and post-colonization of African resources and lifetime misery (except for colluders).
See the sad tale of Zambia, Glencore, and Rüschlikon.
Even Players magazine had a Ghana article on strategic resources and neo-colonialism in 1978. Black Collegian also ran a like article that included all countries' resources and what the industrials need them for.
But it's our fault we don't get paid for our strategic resources, resources industrial and post industrial economies NEED to survive.
I wrote an article about it for our ASA journal but never knew the health issues and misery exposed in the linked video.
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Which was the goal and intend with the continuous attempts (recorded history) as I already have shown. 
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