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quote:
Originally posted by Dinkum:
MIDDLE EASTERN FARMERS MIGRATED EUROPE. NORTH AFRICA, CENTRAL ASIA and NORTHERN INDIA about 9000 - 6000 years ago and thats why all these peoples resemble Mid East people.

Ancient Egyptians looking just like their Middle Eastern ancestors:

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All these statues are fakes, modern creations. They look nothing like authentic Egyptian Statues
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quote:
Originally posted by Dinkum:
The island of Socotra is found in the Gulf of Yemen. It has a LARGE AMOUNT of peoples who originally were runaway slaves. Does that make them the indigenous peoples of the Mid East? OH HELL NO>

They look like this:
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Wow..Where did you come from? Stormfront? These guys were not slaves troll.These are Mahra arabs and yes they are black [Mad]
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quote:
Originally posted by Dinkum:
AGAIN AND AGAIN, the ancient mummies at Abusir el Meleq had light skin dark hair and eyes just like all the DNA taken from other mummies in Egypt and EXACTLY like modern Copts. They HAD NO SUB-SAHARAN DNA:
https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms14615

Daughters of the ancient Pharaohs:


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More like daughters of greko-romans and Asiatic slaves
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Now that we are discussing Nefertiti.

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Nefertiti was most definitely a Bantu woman

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Nephs bust is fake asf don't @ me....
Nonetheless I doubt she was Bantu.

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quote:
Originally posted by Mwafrika Mkenya:
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Originally posted by Dinkum:
MIDDLE EASTERN FARMERS MIGRATED EUROPE. NORTH AFRICA, CENTRAL ASIA and NORTHERN INDIA about 9000 - 6000 years ago and thats why all these peoples resemble Mid East people.

Ancient Egyptians looking just like their Middle Eastern ancestors:

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All these statues are fakes, modern creations. They look nothing like authentic Egyptian Statues
They're probably not fakes. The first on the bottom though from northern Egypt would pass for black:

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This guy looks like SOY Keita.

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More than likely, most if not all of these come from northern Egypt or have origins that aren't known. Nofret's family origins are unknown, and artistically it was normal at this time period to depict women with yellow skin. I'm not sure who Rahotep's mother was eithe. the scribe next to her is from Saqqara (north) the scribe above the image next to Nofret (last at the top) is also northern Egyptian (and was originally much darker if you look at his legs).

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Both the above statues are from northern Egypt.

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This guy Hor Awibre (also known as Hor I), is a second intermediate period ruler (if memory's right... I think he's from the north too). His tomb is found in Dashur. He may also be around the hyksos rise to power era. He's described as a ruler during the second intermediate period on wiki, but I'm not really sure about that. Still, Asiatics were making inroads at the time, especially in northern Egypt. So if he was from the north, it's anyone's guess what he was mixed with.

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Or it could be what some North East Africans looked like.
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I've pointed this out before and I'll point it out again, only with Egyptian remains do you have multiple reconstructions by different teams for the same skull.

This is what?.. the 4th reconstruction for Nefertiti?!

I recall the previous reconstruction made by a double-blinded team not knowing whom the skull belonged to and they came up with this.

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^ the skin color and other finishing touches were made by an Egyptian basing his choice on the average skin color of the people of Akhmim Upper Egypt where Nefertiti's family is from.

Now it seems the 4th Reichers are trying to brush that aside and come up with their own version.

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Suffice to say the team which did the above reconstruction was not double-blinded and knew damn well they were recreating the look of Nefertiti. Bias is ablaze.

They did the same thing with King Tut whose latest reconstruction is actually the 7th or 8th one!! LOL [Big Grin]

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She's not even Nefertiti. She's Tiye's daughter. [Roll Eyes] Dr. Fletcher has some interesting ruminations but this one in particular created a monster. More and more reconstructions to hide the obvious and no one connecting the first to the busts on canopic jars found in Tut's tomb.
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quote:
Originally posted by AshaT:
[QB] She's not even Nefertiti. She's Tiye's daughter. [Roll Eyes]

Yes both of the reconstructions below may be based on a mummy that is not even Nefertiti


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"younger Lady"

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https://wgntv.com/2018/02/07/3-d-image-of-egyptian-queen-not-nefertiti-local-professor-says/

3-D image of Egyptian queen ‘not Nefertiti’, local professor says
Posted 1:44 PM, February 7, 2018,



Zahi’s DNA testing of the royal mummies a few years ago, including the ‘younger’ and ‘older’ ladies, indicated that the mummy of the ‘younger lady’ was Tutankhamun’s mother, and – to everyone’s surprise – that she is also a daughter of Amenhotep III and Tiye.

If one accepts that the mummy of the ‘younger lady’ is the mother of Tutankhamun, then she cannot be Nefertiti. In no text is Nefertiti ever identified as a royal daughter. If she had been a daughter of Amenhotep III and Tiye, it would have been clearly stated in her inscriptions, and there are hundreds of texts that survive mentioning Nefertiti with no mention of her parents. It has been suggested that she was a daughter of Ay, one of Akhenaten and Tutankhamun’s high court officials, a military man who took the crown after Tutankhamun’s early death. Ay’s title, ‘God’s Father,’ could refer to his relationship to Nefertiti, who as queen could never claim a non-royal as her father. If the genetic analysis is correct and the mummy of the ‘younger lady’ is the mother of Tutankhamun and a daughter of Amenhotep III and Queen Tiye, then this mummy cannot be Nefertiti.

Numerous sculptures and reliefs survive of Nefertiti, who ruled as queen and then as king with her husband, including many portraits from the end of the Amarna Period when the art style favoured a naturalism that borders on true portraiture. There are elements common to all of these later representations of Nefertiti: a straight nose, heavy-lidded eyes, long graceful neck, and a strong square jaw. The forensically reconstructed face with its narrow skull, deep-set eyes, and triangular jaw is beautiful but in no way resembles the portraits that survive of Nefertiti. That said, they could be relatives. One must remember that Queen Tiye and Ay were siblings; if Nefertiti’s father was indeed Ay, she and the younger lady would have been cousins.



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quote:
Originally posted by AshaT:

She's not even Nefertiti. She's Tiye's daughter. [Roll Eyes] Dr. Fletcher has some interesting ruminations but this one in particular created a monster. More and more reconstructions to hide the obvious and no one connecting the first to the busts on canopic jars found in Tut's tomb.

Yes! You're right. It's a force of habit. The media has been calling her "Nefertiti" for so long, I fell into that bad habit. Her more accurate title is the 'KV-35 Younger Lady'. She is the daughter of Amenhotep III and Tiye, mother of Tutankhamun and full sister of Tutankhamun's father.

Funny how with all the differing reconstructions we don't have a complete DNA profile of her published. Only nuclear DNA pertaining to her kin relations.

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