quote: Enki went North, to the Great Rift Valley (southeast Africa) to study an intelligent, fire-using primate, Homo Erectus
quote: Adamu [“one like South African Earth’s clay”–a red shade], he had smooth and dark red (not black, not white) skin and black hair (Nibirans, in contrast, were white-skinned and blue-eyed). Adamu’s “malehood; odd was its shape, by a skin was its forepart surrounded, unlike that of Anunnaki malehood it was. ‘Let the Earthling from us Anunnaki by this foreskin be distinguished.’ So was Enki saying.” [ZS, Divine Encounters 47; Enki 139; Tellinger, Slave Species: 251]
^^^^^^ You wonder why yte folks embrace this psuedo mythology???
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quote:Originally posted by zarahan aka Enrique Cardova: Dr. Wesley Muhammed has done extensive research on the origin of the Semites, and has studied their languages. Indeed in the video above, min 1:47 he talks about his language study, and indicates something similar to Nick Cannon and Professor Griff, namely that the black Semites are the true original Semites, and the white ones are imposters.
It must be said that Nick is working on his / a Ph.D. As of now he has a Master degree in Criminology/ /Administration of Justice and minor in Africana Studies!
quote:Originally posted by zarahan aka Enrique Cardova: Elsewhere Welsing argues that Sirius B was used by blacks as a sort of retransmitting station for divination and precognition. QUOTE:
"... all of the activity, everything that occurs on the earth-everything is energy, see it's just different frequencies of energy, we are all energy-and that energy goes up to Sirius B. That is why the Dogons also refer to it as the star of knowledge. Even further, I theorize that it is possible to tune into this star of all knowledge. This star thus becomes the place where souls return after they leave the human body. . . . So the ancient Egyptians, who knew how to use their black, knew where to place the people who could tune into Sirius B. So all of the information-tune into the information contained at Digitaria and thus could predict the future." -- Welsing FC (1987) Lecture 1st melanin confer- ence, San Francisco, September 16-17, 1987. On "African-American World View."ť Detroit: WDTR, September 5 and 12, 1989
Did she speak to these people, are there samples?
I remember about 7-10 years ago Dr. Wesley Muhammad did a lecture on some similar topic. He as usual had peer reviewed papers during this lecture.
What peer reviewed papers did Dr. Wesley have showing the super conduction properties of melanin that enhance the black divination and paranormal powers, providing the ability to detect the invisible Sirius B, as well as psychically connect with it the distant star?
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quote:Originally posted by zarahan aka Enrique Cardova: What peer reviewed papers did Dr. Wesley have showing the super conduction properties of melanin that enhance the black divination and paranormal powers, providing the ability to detect the invisible Sirius B, as well as psychically connect with it the distant star?
It's been many years ago, so I don't know what the paper was called. I am certain the lecture is somewhere on Youtube. He didn't mention Sirius B or the Dogon, but it was about super conduction properties of melanin. He has spoken a lot on Carbon.
Again Wesley is out of his mind calling this a scientific laboratory with flasks doing genetic engineering 6,000 years ago in Mesopotamia. He's really gone bonkers this time.
What do you mean out of his mind? Defenders of Dr. Muhammad note he has a PhD and and has extensively studied 5 languages. He shows peer-reviewed documents or archaeological material, that whites are the false Semites, who were created as part of a selective breeding program in ancient times.
Supporters say there would be no "lab" as we know today with test tubes and microscopes. The breeding program could have been implemented in Mecca by a process of artificial insemination- the "germ" spoken of. Further refinement would focus on the key variable of melanin. Those offspring with less melanin, the whites or light-skinnad progeny would be cross-bred while darker specimens were liquidated, just as people do to breed new dog breeds, cattle etc. In time, the Yacubists (they could be a group led by a leader called Yacub, rather than just a single individual), would refine things down to a white specimen as the basis for the race. that bedazzled the original people. It is thus likely that supporters would dispute characterization of Dr Wesley as out of his mind.
Some defenders have argued that the scenario is perfectly feasible given a dedicated group of breeders (i.e. Yacubists), and point to the long history of breeding to enhance whiteness, (the much prized whiter or pale Circassian women of the Caucasus)for example that has historically taken place in the region.
If Dr. Muhammad's bedazzlement model is considered, this preference for whiteness led the black Semites astray, and indeed may have been cunningly programmed by the Yacubists. This may mirror developments down to the present day among the lost-found negroes of America, the self-hate of some negroes in choosing women of enhanced whiteness. It should be noted that the mother of founder WD Fard, Baby G, was a white woman from the Caucasus.
Note- I do not endorse Muhammad's views but seek to understand them. His videos clearly lay out what he believes.
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quote:Originally posted by Yatunde Lisa: [QUOTE]Sitchin was born to a Jewish family in Baku, the capital of then Soviet Azerbaijan, and raised in Mandatory Palestine.
"agent" "mossad"
Well it is in the realm of possibility that Mossad monitors these things if they have some bearing on security, mayhaps agents even on EgyptSearch (they know who they are Maybe they get a good laugh.. "Hell if these people are all we gotta worry about we got it made.. "
But the selective breeding model of Dr Muhammad, not to mention the bedazzlement by whiteness, is widely believed by some in the black community. Nick Cannon apparently believes some aspects for in min 48 of the transcript he speaks of whites being "sent to the Mountains of Caucuses."
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quote:Originally posted by zarahan aka Enrique Cardova:
quote:Originally posted by Yatunde Lisa: Sitchin was born to a Jewish family in Baku, the capital of then Soviet Azerbaijan, and raised in Mandatory Palestine.
"agent" "mossad"
Well it is in the realm of possibility that Mossad monitors these things if they have some bearing on security, mayhaps agents even on EgyptSearch (they know who they are Maybe they get a good laugh.. "Hell if these people are all we gotta worry about we got it made.. "
But the selective breeding model of Dr Muhammad, not to mention the bedazzlement by whiteness, is widely believed by some in the black community. Nick Cannon apparently believes some aspects for in min 48 of the transcript he speaks of whites being "sent to the Mountains of Caucuses."
We have suspected for a long time, that there are suck-puppets on this platform (and other platforms).
If you ask me, it's a bit weird to put time, money and effort into something like this, where people are just hobbyist, history buffs and science enthusiasts, who cite and study public peer reviewed papers.
From what I understand they also have teams that sniff the buttholes of rappers and even regular Black business owners. They have been doing this since the '80s. It's a form of narcissism, control freak on steroids.
There are other things to worry about, like:
"U.S. sees 300 violent attacks inspired by far right every year
Despite the nation’s intense national focus on Islamic terrorism since 9/11, homegrown, right wing extremists have also killed dozens of Americans. The groups include white supremacist and neo-Nazi groups and anti-federalists militias. Since 2001, the number of violent attacks on U.S. soil inspired by far-right ideology has spiked to an average of more than 300 a year, according to a study by the Combating Terrorism Center at West Point.
[...]
You have this extreme right neo-Nazi antigovernment terrorism which has been pretty constant, after all, it was the most lethal attack on American soil before 9/11 was the Oklahoma City bombing which killed 168 people carried out by two right wing — extreme right wing militants."
Indeed. Pseudoscience supporters, socks and racists like "White Nord" have been with ES for years.
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^^^^ this was his last video lecture before he died
why trolls?
russian spy tactic of long term disinformation seeding..
Just look at the xmas morning bomber.. he believed in Reptiles running hollywood.. this conspiracies and theories are elevated through russian trolls
quote: The goal is to weaken the EU by polarizing society within individual member states. Through these actions, the Russian authorities aim to influence internal EU processes to Russia’s benefit, for example to abolish the economic sanctions imposed after Russia’s annexation of Crimea and aggression against Ukraine and to include Russia in the public debate about European security.
quote: How Russian “Fake News” Hardened America's Divide - PBSwww.pbs.org › wgbh › frontline › article › how-russian-f... How Russian “Fake News” Hardened America's Divide ... From Obama to Trump, a series on how America's ...
How would the Mossad utilize this tatic? by seeding stories/mythologies that promote and maintain zionism and keep it intact..
1. Biblical archaeology 2. DNA that traces the current Jews to ancient Jews 3. Dynastic Egyptians related to Levantines..
I could go on..
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quote:Originally posted by zarahan aka Enrique Cardova: There are other things to worry about
Indeed. Pseudoscience supporters, socks and racists like "White Nord" have been with ES for years.
I am 100% certain that “White Nord” is connected to these white supremacy and domestic terrorism groups.
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Did this spread to Mecca after Yacub's weaponized fem-bots from his hideout in Sumer ????
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The Book of God: An Encyclopedia of Proof that the Black Man is God New Revised Edition by Wesley Muhammad PhD (Author)
About the Author Dr. True Islam aka Dr. Wesley Muhammad is founder of Truth of God Institute, an educational, research and resource center committed to providing scholarly and scientific discussion of the 'Mother of All Questions': Who is God? True Islam earned a BA in Religious Studies from Morehouse College, as well as a Masters Degree and a Doctorate in Islamic Studies from the University of Michigan.
Wesley Muhammad:
The Whites of antiquity likewise bore witness that the Black Man is God. Zecharia Sitchin says,
"The Greeks described their gods as anthropomorphic, as physically similar to mortal men and women, and human in character: They could be happy and angry and jealous; they made love, quarreled, fought; and they procreated like humans, bringing forth offspring through sexual intercourse-with each other and humans. "^
Zecharia Sitchin, a scholar of ancient Near East religions, in his The 12TH Planet, observes,
"In all ancient pictorial depiction's of gods and men, this physical likeness is evident Although the biblical admonitions against the worship of pagan images gave rise to the notion that the Hebrew God had neither image nor likeness, not only the Genesis tale but other biblical reports attest to the contrary. The God of the ancient Hebrews could be seen face-to-face, could be wrestled with, could be heard and spoken to; he had a head and feet hands and fingers, and a waist. The biblical God and his emissaries looked like men and acted like men-because men were created to look and act like the gods. "'
These ancient Blacks were recognized as the Family of God. These are the "gods" of ancient history. Prehistoric Egypt and Chaldea are said to be the "Land of the Gods." In Egypt these
gods were called Neteru,^^' and in Chaldea the Anunnaki,
meaning "Those Who from Heaven to Earth Came."^^^ Zecharia Sitchin, scholar of ancient Near Eastern civilizations, says in his The 12TH Planet concerning these "ancient gods":
"They were the "olden gods" of the epic tales, and, in the Summerian belief, they had come down to earth from the heavens. By the use of this term to describe the Sons of God, the Bible coimects them with the "gods" (Anunnaki) of Sumner. In Numbers 13:33, the Nephilim are called the "sons of Anak." "Anak" or "Anakim," according to Zecharia Sitchin, is the Hebrew rendering of Anunnaki.^^^
These ancient Black gods were called "the Children of Heaven" by the Book of Jubilees,^^^ "Sons of the God of
Heaven" and "Holy Ones" by the Book of Noah.
The AnunnJiki was composed of an inner circle of the higher and lower region Gods. The higher or "Heavenly Gods" were
called the Igigi.^^^ According to Zecharia Sitchin, in The Twelfth Planet, the number of these heavenly gods was twelve. He says,
"This emphasis on the number 12 can be traced to the fact that the Solar System has twelve members, and each of the leading Anunnaki was assigned a celestial counterpart, FORMING A PANTHEON OF TWELVE 'OLYMPIANS' who were each assigned a constellation AND A MONTH. "^47
This Sumerian Anunnaki, consisting of twelve gods, each assigned to a constellation and a month, is the root and origin of the Latin annum ("year"), French anne ("year") and English annual ("yearly").648 Sitchin says again,
"There were many other gods in Sumer-children, grandchildren, nieces, and nephews of the Great Gods; there were also several hundred rank-and-file gods... who were assigned... 'general duties.' But only TWELVE made
up the Great Circle (emphasis orig) "^^^
This Circle of Great Gods was also referred to as the "Exalted
Court."^^^ This is exactly as is taught by the Honorable Elijah Muhammad. He said the Twelve Major Scientists were represented by the Twelve Constellations. The "Lower Region" Gods undoubtedly consisted of Twelve also. These were also called "The Gods of Heaven and Earth."
Sitchin observes,
"(I)t is clear that the Hit tit e pantheon, too, was governed by the 'Olympian' twelve. The lesser gods were organized in groups of twelve, and the Great Gods on Earth were associated with twelve celestial bodies. "^^^
In the Hittite description of this Divine Assembly are to be found all the characteristics that are found in the Sumerian and Kemetic descriptions. They are referred to as the "Gods of Heaven and Earth/'^^O \^ ^ Hittite epic entitled "Kingship in Heaven," the recounter lists the twelve "mighty olden gods" who are the "forbearers." He proceeds to tell a very interesting history of the Judgeship of the Council:
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Can't believe what I'm reading. The US truly is a 3rd world country when it comes to having the most celebrated bogus thought leaders per square km. One even made it to president.
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Did masareal as a guava sufganyot fill-in. Twas good and maybe you can educate me on the fine points of dessert. Consider this a lead in for you to introduce ES to your cultures and histories if you will.
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Israel metaphysics posits 15.3 billion human years as the Age of the Cosmos because it knows time is relative to the observer. Imagine that.
But even in common American parlance a day (yom) can mean more than 24 hrs as in 'back in the day' and similar phrases.
The book of B*re'shiyth opens with the Big Bang which is the B of b*re'shiyth translated as 'in the beginning' of 'Elohiym creating our plane of existance but certainly not the beginning of the all. The idea being humanity can never know what preceded the Big Bang but science may unravel that tapestry some DAY. Current science places BB 13.8 bya.
quote:Originally posted by Ish Geber: The question is a rhetorical one, Dje. It's to instigate and trigger something, so people put a thinking cap on. It made you question things, which is my purpose.
Ish Geber ahhi, Todah for crediting me with the sole pink man painted among the red-blacks of ancient Iraq. Couldn't believe I was blessed enough to find online what I remembered from a long lost art book.
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quote:Originally posted by Ish Geber:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: They appear to be some Middle Eastern types.
quote:ברך נח ובניו שנא' ויברך אותם אלהים במתנותיה והנחילם את כל הארץ. ברך לשם ולבניו שחורים ונאים והנחילם את כל ארץ נושבת ברך לחם ובניו שחורים כעורב והנחילם חוף הים ברך ליפת ובניו כלם לבני' ויפי' והנחילם מדבר ושדות אלה הנחלות שהנחילם.
NIMROD AND THE TOWER OF BABEL
Noah brought his sons and his grandsons, and he blessed them with their (several) settlements, and he gave them as an inheritance all the earth. He especially blessed Shem and his sons, (making them) dark but comely, and he gave them the habitable earth. He blessed Ham and his sons, (making them) dark || like the raven, and he gave them as an inheritance the coast of the sea. He blessed Japheth and his sons, (making) them entirely white, and he gave them for an inheritance the desert and its fields; these (are the inheritances with) which he endowed them.
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Genetic engineering without a lab is evidenced in the story of Jacob and the flocks of Uncle Laban. He employed sexual bias based on fur coat coloring.
The origin of the Speckled Streaked Spotted hypotheses bandied about in various guises by various groups.
Red Devil tailed yte dvl grl @ 1:11 n elsewhere -- no doubt, highly pheromic --
yte grlz thru out vid though the lyrics boldly proclaim "black as the dark night she was got what no one else has" perhaps Afro-dy-tee was really her name?
From what I understand they also have teams that sniff the buttholes of rappers and even regular Black business owners.
So are these teams collecting the smell for later decoding or are they trained to decode the messages instantly?
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quote:Originally posted by zarahan aka Enrique Cardova:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
Again Wesley is out of his mind calling this a scientific laboratory with flasks doing genetic engineering 6,000 years ago in Mesopotamia. He's really gone bonkers this time.
From Min 25:25
What do you mean out of his mind? Defenders of Dr. Muhammad note he has a PhD and and has extensively studied 5 languages. He shows peer-reviewed documents or archaeological material, that whites are the false Semites, who were created as part of a selective breeding program in ancient times.
Supporters say there would be no "lab" as we know today with test tubes and microscopes. The breeding program could have been implemented in Mecca by a process of artificial insemination- the "germ" spoken of. Further refinement would focus on the key variable of melanin. Those offspring with less melanin, the whites or light-skinnad progeny would be cross-bred while darker specimens were liquidated, just as people do to breed new dog breeds, cattle etc. In time, the Yacubists (they could be a group led by a leader called Yacub, rather than just a single individual), would refine things down to a white specimen as the basis for the race. that bedazzled the original people. It is thus likely that supporters would dispute characterization of Dr Wesley as out of his mind.
Some defenders have argued that the scenario is perfectly feasible given a dedicated group of breeders (i.e. Yacubists), and point to the long history of breeding to enhance whiteness, (the much prized whiter or pale Circassian women of the Caucasus)for example that has historically taken place in the region.
If Dr. Muhammad's bedazzlement model is considered, this preference for whiteness led the black Semites astray, and indeed may have been cunningly programmed by the Yacubists. This may mirror developments down to the present day among the lost-found negroes of America, the self-hate of some negroes in choosing women of enhanced whiteness. It should be noted that the mother of founder WD Fard, Baby G, was a white woman from the Caucasus.
Note- I do not endorse Muhammad's views but seek to understand them. His videos clearly lay out what he believes.
Master Fard Muhammad supposedly came in the person of God to teach the Honorable Elijah Muhammad and MFM is now celebrated each year on Saviour's Day
However as you point out it's strange paradox that Master Fard himself might be a product of his father's bedazzlement with white women.(possible mommy issues also)
Wesley has a book from several years ago defending Master Fard from various alternative ancestry theories and alleged photos and verifies his Godhood (although in the context that man is God)
yet in this recent video he hardly mentions Master Fard
perhaps Dr. Wesley is waking up and realizing this swirl paradox causes a never ending eyebrow raising
I wonder if after Minister Farrakhan passes if he or someone else might attempt, gradually to cut Master Fard out of the picture
The traditional view though is that Master Fard had to look like that to be able to slip in and out of places dominated by white people On the other hand he was only on the scene for a few years and mysteriously disappeared and no one knows why
This came out this year in August I wonder if this is educational material for Nick Cannon
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From what I understand they also have teams that sniff the buttholes of rappers and even regular Black business owners.
So are these teams collecting the smell for later decoding or are they trained to decode the messages instantly?
Perhaps so, I think you can tell us more.
I didn't know this was going on, these sniffing teams. It explains a lot
I'm glade to have informed you. What does it explain to you?
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: Master Fard Muhammad supposedly came in the person of God to teach the Honorable Elijah Muhammad and MFM is now celebrated each year on Saviour's Day
However as you point out it's strange paradox that Master Fard himself might be a product of his father's bedazzlement with white women.(possible mommy issues also)
Wesley has a book from several years ago defending Master Fard from various alternative ancestry theories and alleged photos and verifies his Godhood (although in the context that man is God)
yet in this recent video he hardly mentions Master Fard
perhaps Dr. Wesley is waking up and realizing this swirl paradox causes a never ending eyebrow raising
I wonder if after Minister Farrakhan passes if he or someone else might attempt, gradually to cut Master Fard out of the picture
The traditional view though is that Master Fard had to look like that to be able to slip in and out of places dominated by white people On the other hand he was only on the scene for a few years and mysteriously disappeared and no one knows why
For certainly is that he transformed a people that was broken throughout slavery, into a strong people with dignity. The NOI he created with Hon. Elijah Muhammad was nothing to be played with.
Them butt sniffers were on them 24/7. It's like an obsession to sniff on the Black community, with this endless and relentless control of the Black population. Trying to systemically destroy every little progress Black people made and make.
Anyway, Dr. Wesley demolished the concept put forward by Paul Guthrie.
Dr. Wesley Muhammad: Master Fard Muhammad and the Deconstruction of Paul Guthrie's Claims.
Fact is, none of us knows who Master Fard Muhammad was and is. All people do is guess work. And so what if people want to belief in him, that he came in the person of God? And it becomes comical when you post stuff by a man called Omar Shabazz.
Look up the etymology of the word God, and stop thinking you're bright. Btw. Asar did a programs on this particulair word as well.
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This came out this year in August I wonder if this is educational material for Nick Cannon
How many languages do you speak? August is the month of Ugun. August is also the moth of Augustus.
Anyway, perhaps you should debate Dr. Wesley on this, instead of creating thumbnails about things you don't understand. At least try to dispute him with facts checking, in an intellectual discourse. I'd respect that more than this here.
quote: Recently though, excavations in the Nile Delta have led archaeologists to doubt that the Hyksos were invaders, or, for that matter, that they had any direct link to the Israelites.
quote: The tradition of the sojourn of the Israelites in Egypt, however, induced the Jewish historian Flavius Josephus to construct a connection between these two people.
The concept has been frozen in the Egyptian memory to the point that to this day, the average person in Egypt thinks the Hyksos were Jews and associates them with destruction and chaos. But this is not part of real history, the archaeologist said.
Long after the Hyksos’ domination ended, people from Canaan continued to reach Egypt, and among them may have been the Proto-Israelites. Some archaeologists think the story of the sojourn in Egypt was invented much later to create a unified historical framework for the Israelites.
The Book of God: An Encyclopedia of Proof that the Black Man is God New Revised Edition by Wesley Muhammad PhD (Author)
About the Author Dr. True Islam aka Dr. Wesley Muhammad is founder of Truth of God Institute, an educational, research and resource center committed to providing scholarly and scientific discussion of the 'Mother of All Questions': Who is God? True Islam earned a BA in Religious Studies from Morehouse College, as well as a Masters Degree and a Doctorate in Islamic Studies from the University of Michigan.
Interesting title: "The Book of God: An Encyclopedia of Proof that the Black Man is God".
What is this book about?
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quote:Originally posted by Swenet: Can't believe what I'm reading. The US truly is a 3rd world country when it comes to having the most celebrated bogus thought leaders per square km. One even made it to president.
Swe, religion undoubtedly has and still is playing a tremendous important part in the lives of many in America and globally. It has shaped and destroyed societies and people.
The Bible is one of the most mysterious and censored books ever. Censored in the sense of it's "unknown" origin.
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Interesting title: "The Book of God: An Encyclopedia of Proof that the Black Man is God".
What is this book about?
It's about the idea that the God or Allah that most Muslims, Christians and Jews believe in, that they consider to be a formless spirit, a superior being above man, does not exist.
Instead "God" means "black people", there is nothing higher than man in the universe, no higher power. Man is God, the Black man.
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Interesting title: "The Book of God: An Encyclopedia of Proof that the Black Man is God".
What is this book about?
It's about the idea that the God or Allah that most Muslims, Christians and Jews believe in, that they consider to be a formless spirit, a superior being above man, does not exist.
Instead "God" means "black people", there is nothing higher than man in the universe, no higher power. Man is God, the Black man.
But why does it say singular MAN, instead of plural MEN, if it means "Black people", which is a plural?
Anyway, what is wrong with this thinking? Was not the same people who have been made into the lowest, 3/5 of a human being?
And if it's "An Encyclopedia of Proof that the Black Man is God". Why are you trying to dispute it?
A recreation in modern materials of the lost colossal statue by Pheidias, Athena Parthenos by Alan LeQuire (1990) is housed in a full-scale replica of the Parthenon in Nashville’s Centennial Park. She is the largest indoor sculpture in the western world.
Interesting title: "The Book of God: An Encyclopedia of Proof that the Black Man is God".
What is this book about?
It's about the idea that the God or Allah that most Muslims, Christians and Jews believe in, that they consider to be a formless spirit, a superior being above man, does not exist.
Instead "God" means "black people", there is nothing higher than man in the universe, no higher power. Man is God, the Black man.
But why does it say singular MAN, instead of plural MEN, if it means "Black people", which is a plural?
Anyway, what is wrong with this thinking? Was not the same people who have been made into the lowest, 3/5 of a human being?
And if it's "An Encyclopedia of Proof that the Black Man is God". Why are you trying to dispute it?
Btw have you looked up the etymology of word god?
I'm am not disputing it. I posted that book to show the quotes in about Zecharia Sitchin.
Then you asked me what the book was a about and I told you, the book is about there being no higher power above man, man is God, man is Allah
"The black man" is plural. It means black mankind not "a black man is God"
"the white man", "the black man", these are plural terms meaning "black people" or "white people" .
However sometimes some people interpret the term to mean males only, hence Father Allah who founded the 5% called females "Earths" - but the NOI doesn't do that
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If the Black Man is God he's a piss poor one to have his ass kicked by the non-God White Man.
BTW Elohei Ya`aqob means Gd of Jacob. Takes an ignoramous of Hebrew language to read God Yakub.
ignorance or deliberate manipulation
Of course banking on viewers being more ignorant than themselves is what makes authors in print or on YouTube proclaim absurdities.
Unfamiliarity with Hebrew texts is also obvious as the siddur has Jews six times a day saying אֱלֹהֵי אַבְרָהָם אֱלֹהֵי יִצְחָק וֵאלֹהֵי יַעֲקב
So according to the blurb
it'd be a toss up between Abraham, Issac, and Jacob as to who is Israel's "god". A triune Father-Son-Grandson god{s} maybe?
Nevermind Jacob's name was changed to Israel tentatively meaning 'strong against god". Since Israel is Jacob does that make Israel/Jacob his own god?
SIDEBAR: There's a Hyksos name Ya`aqob-har or Ya`aqob-el perhaps a forerunner of the name Yisra'el. Ya`aqob's name was changed to Yisra'el consequential to an anxiety attack he had while adream.
Why make pretend there's any authentic science behind NOI's maladjusted Big Head Yakub? Religion can be true while at the same time non-factual. Paradox? Not when remembering religion's goal 'to bind back' its followers.
However it wasn't until after the Gaon Saadyah's day that incorporeality of the Hebrew deity became 'universal' among K*lal Yisra'el itself.
Anthropomorphisms were taken literally by many of the people.
And back to the blip. What's that cartonnage supposed to prove? Cartonnages done been covered extensively on ES.
The creation of the whiteman was the absolute necessity for us to become one with Allah... Before Yacub was born, 15,000 years ago the Gods met and the birth of Yacub and his making of the predicted and authorized the making of the whiteman because we suffered the consequences of incomplete dominance for too long... So in order for us to be perfected we had to isolate that recessive self
As further described in the video, the black man was almost perfect but still had not mastered his recessive lower self savage tendencies, his dominance was incomplete so on a spiritual level the white man had to be created to isolate these tendencies and rule for 6,000 years.
However he was supposed to stop ruling in 1914
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quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: I'm am not disputing it. I posted that book to show the quotes in about Zecharia Sitchin.
Then you asked me what the book was a about and I told you, the book is about there being no higher power above man, man is God, man is Allah
"The black man" is plural. It means black mankind not "a black man is God"
"the white man", "the black man", these are plural terms meaning "black people" or "white people" .
However sometimes some people interpret the term to mean males only, hence Father Allah who founded the 5% called females "Earths" - but the NOI doesn't do that
You are becoming confusing here. Are you citing from the book The Book of God: An Encyclopedia of Proof that the Black Man is God? And are you saying Dr. Wesley cited "Zecharia Sitchin" for reference in that book?
From where did you get that "The Black man is God" means Black people? And not the singular form?
In terms of plural yes, anthropomorphically there's an argument to be made. From my understanding they always meant is in one person. I take this from the religious doctrine. They go by One Special Being amongst the Gods. I don't think you really understand what they are saying. You need to read about Alphonso and Baby Gee etc. the 25 thousand years cycle that creates the anthropomorphic God etc.. It goes way deeper. I am not part of the group, but I did learn about them over time.
quote: This date is taken from the beginning of the present cycle of world history writings by 24 black scientists of which only 23 actually do the writing, and the 24th one acts as judge of the writings of the other 23. This takes place once every 25 thousand years. In this history is written everything that will come to pass for the next 25 thousand years.
Dr. Wesley was a 5%, when he was in Team Allah. The 5% is aimed at street dudes and females who join in there. It's the same doctrine is the NOI, but not as strict, most are less disciplined. The rule is that is long as you can name the "lessons" you'er good.
You only know the basics of them, that is why you are so highly misinformed. You have shown this repeatedly throughout the many years.
If you are truly a Black woman as you claim to be, you can go to one of their mosques (temples) and ask for information. I told you this a few times before, years ago. You don't have to convert to do the knowledge. They will gladly inform you.
I had taken you for divine beings, sons of the Most High, all of you; Sefaria.org
"Who made all things good. And He began the creation of man from clay. Then He made his seed from a draught of despised fluid. *Then He fashioned him and breathed into him of His spirit."* (Surah as-Sajdah, 32:7 - 9)
"Man, you strive hard to get closer to your Lord, and so you will finally meet Him." (Surah al-Inshiqaq, 84:6) AYAH an-Nisa`4:1
وَإِذْ قَالَ رَبُّكَ لِلْمَلَائِكَةِ إِنِّي خَالِقٌ بَشَرًا مِّن صَلْصَالٍ مِّنْ حَمَإٍ مَّسْنُونٍ - 15:28 And [mention, O Muhammad], when your Lord said to the angels, "I will create a human being out of clay from an altered black mud. Surah Hijr, Verse 28
فَإِذَا سَوَّيْتُهُ وَنَفَخْتُ فِيهِ مِن رُّوحِي فَقَعُوا لَهُ سَاجِدِينَ - 15:29 And when I have proportioned him and breathed into him of My [created] soul, then fall down to him in prostration.
فَإِذَا سَوَّيْتُهُ وَنَفَخْتُ فِيهِ مِن رُّوحِي فَقَعُوا لَهُ سَاجِدِينَ - 38:72 and when I have formed him fully and breathed into him of My spirit, fall you down before him in prostration!” [56] - 38:72
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quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: However he was supposed to stop ruling in 1914
I've heard people from some Christian Schisms like the Jehovah's Witnesses and Pentecostalism say the same thing, only they say that the devil's rule stopped that year. These were white people.
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quote: Why make pretend there's any authentic science behind NOI's maladjusted Big Head Yakub? Religion can be true while at the same time non-factual. Paradox?
^^^^^ This! Mythology is usually a fairy tale to explain some natural phenomenon
Also, if you study Jung/Campbell/Freud you come to understand that mythology is an exploration of our own psyche or sub conscious mind.
so NOI claims Asiatic black man.. Myth? Some want Hap E to come from Asia in a back migration... Myth?
quote:It is further argued that haplogroup E is of Asian origin and that the haploid diversity of haplogroup E supports a strong Eurasian male gene flow. The authors conclude that this supports an Asian origin and may also explain signals of small percentages of Neanderthal DNA found in northern and some western Africans.
Yacob? or White people freed from the glacial slave prison in the Caucasus at the end of the ice age?
quote: Saharan remains may be evidence of first race war, 13,000 years ago The skeletons – from the east bank of the Nile in northern Sudan – are from victims of the world’s oldest known relatively large-scale human armed conflict
Yacob creating "white people" myth? Or sexual bias in selection?
quote: How Europeans evolved white skin | Science | AAASwww.sciencemag.org › news › 2015/04 › how-europea... Apr 2, 2015 — Common European traits like pale skin evolved relatively recently in ... who moved into Europe in separate migrations over the past 8000 years.
Man as GOD? God is dead? WHy worry and sweat over Dr. Muhammed when we have European Philosophies that cover the same subject and is an active part of the ruling elites mantra's and workings with public policy?
quote: Übermensch - Wikiquoteen.wikiquote.org › wiki › Übermensch Übermensch is a word which has been translated as Overman, Overhuman, Beyond-man, ... and as a solution to the problems of the "death of God" (or the death of belief in God as a ... What is great in man is that he is a bridge and not an end.
back to campbell
quote: Functions of myth ( aka RELIGION) Campbell often described mythology as having a fourfold function within human society
1. The Mystical/Metaphysical Function Awakening and maintaining in the individual a sense of awe and gratitude before the 'mystery of being' and his or her participation in it
2. The Cosmological Function Explaining the shape of the universe For pre-modern societies, myth also functioned as a proto-science, offering explanations for the physical phenomena that surrounded and affected their lives
3. The Sociological Function Validate and support the existing social order ( EUROCENTRIC SCIENCE works to support the creation of a new creation myth)
4. The Pedagogical/Psychological Function Guide the individual through the stages of life
( A healthy human has to have a creation myth that reflects his own identity)
( that does not cast/caste him as the role of the devil or cursed)
LINUS the fact that you are in this forum constantly trying to bust up or destroy explorations of Afrocentric history... current african and african american religions and mythology says more about YOUR screwed up Psyche and obsessions than it does about any "fact checking" you do here..
In American mythical/ capitalist religion culture black culture performs the function of the shadow (devil) (evil)
quote: The shadow aspect of culture is irrational and therefore often subject to projection. Projection is a primitive defense mechanism that occurs in individuals, as well as within groups. A person disowns an unacceptable idea or impulse by projecting it or attributing it to another. This alleviates the anxiety and unfavorable self-perception it engenders in the projector. For example, no one likes to think of himself or herself as a racist.
quote: Some scholars argue that in order to defend against the knowledge of its own criminality of the past, whites criminalize the black community. One cultural critic puts it this way: “Through projection the White community seeks to transform its… genocidal characteristics and intentions…to defend its own positive self-perception against knowledge of its own criminality.” Such projections distort one's reality like a veil of illusion insulating oneself from the real world and keeping one from a truer knowledge of reality.
quote: Some members of the other group, the out-group, in this case Africa-Americans, internalize or introject these concepts of self, distorting their own self-perception and identity. The media reinforces stereotypical characterizations of blacks and people of color. The shadow side of our collective psyche is the cause for many of our societal ills, suggests Jung, and frequently fuels prejudice between dominant and minority groups.
^^^^^
This is how I can deduce most of the anti afrocentrists on this board are browns and not whites...
The whites that come here are fully hostile and racist.. the browns are the in betweeners.. they feel inferior to whites so they come here to keep in check blacks to make themselves feel better.. it's their drug ( they too are cast/caste as inferior to the WESTERN EUROPEAN STANDARD
AND!! in the face of the onslaught of full on white racism in the TRUMP era explains why some "browns" Mexicans on the border and Asians began to support TRUMP..... it was their GRASP at WHItENESS
NICK CANNON in this current paradigm was doing the job of casting/casteing himself/identity at the center of a mythos and creation story to restore his own Psyche
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Wow. Takes me back nearly five decades when using a book Mythology of the Soul to interpret my pen and colored ink art (kinda in the psychedelia of Abdul Mati Klarwein) imbedded with subliminals.
Aharon and Moshe
Earth Air Fire Water
Bitches' Brew - Miles Davis LP cover
Yeah wasn't Jung into them myth archetypes and do I recall him applying them to astrology or something also related to personal mythology?
Frazier's Golden Bough and Briffault's The Mothers also informed my understanding of mythology's roles. Not that either Graves' Greek Myths or Hebrew Myths should be overlooked. Without the absurd masking the underlying deep philosophy it wouldn't be mythology.
Myth serves roles beyond critique even if some mythographers present or setup their myths as 'critiqueable' science (though admittedly non-replicable). And yes I find even the genomicists behind the reports on ES to be mythographers in their own right when it comes down to interpretations.
quote:Originally posted by Yatunde Lisa:
quote:Originally posted by Tu: Why make pretend there's any authentic science behind NOI's maladjusted Big Head Yakub? Religion can be true while at the same time non-factual. Paradox?
^^^^^ This! Mythology is usually a fairy tale to explain some natural phenomenon
Also, if you study Jung/Campbell/Freud you come to understand that mythology is an exploration of our own psyche or sub conscious mind.
so NOI claims Asiatic black man.. Myth? Some want Hap E to come from Asia in a back migration... Myth?
quote: Yeah Jung was into them myth archetypes and do I recall him applying that to astrology or something also related to personal mythology?
^^^^
Aion: Researches into the Phenomenology of the Self Book by Carl Jung
DEEP DEEP DEEP....
quote: Judaism According to the Hebrew Bible, God instructed the Israelites to "destroy all [the] engraved stones, destroy all [the] molded images, and demolish all [the] high places" of the indigenous Canaanite population as soon as they entered the Promised Land.[9]
In Judaism, King Hezekiah purged Solomon's Temple in Jerusalem and all figures were also destroyed in the Land of Israel, including the Nehushtan, as recorded in the Second Book of Kings. His reforms were reversed in the reign of his son Manasseh.[c
^^^^ Iconoclasm
THIS IS HOW YOU WIN....
^^^ WOW
Another reason the CIA had to destroy the psychedelic movement
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Some Near East archaeologists and writers posit that K*na'ani identity is what was more likely demolished. The idea being nascient `Am Yisra'el were a disgruntle group of Canaanites forging a new ethnicity away from the coast free of Canaan and its boss Egypt's hegemony.
quote:Originally posted by Yatunde Lisa:
quote: Judaism According to the Hebrew Bible, God instructed the Israelites to "destroy all [the] engraved stones, destroy all [the] molded images, and demolish all [the] high places" of the indigenous Canaanite population as soon as they entered the Promised Land.[9]
Yes indeed. Icons art de winna, gwine deh. Imagery is a people as it imagines itself into reality by portraying group psyche. That's why positive images are important in painting, poetry, sculpture, plays, music novels, movies, tv series, advertisements, the radio, and ... all else.
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^^^^ I remember Miles album cover.. had no idea who made it and that was more of it... nice to know who.. thanks to the old wise one Tukuler
FOR U LINUS...
jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
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quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: I'm am not disputing it. I posted that book to show the quotes in about Zecharia Sitchin.
Then you asked me what the book was a about and I told you, the book is about there being no higher power above man, man is God, man is Allah
"The black man" is plural. It means black mankind not "a black man is God"
"the white man", "the black man", these are plural terms meaning "black people" or "white people" .
However sometimes some people interpret the term to mean males only, hence Father Allah who founded the 5% called females "Earths" - but the NOI doesn't do that
You are becoming confusing here. Are you citing from the book The Book of God: An Encyclopedia of Proof that the Black Man is God? And are you saying Dr. Wesley cited "Zecharia Sitchin" for reference in that book?
Simply go back to my original post on the Book of God. In earlier posts Zecharia Sitchin was mentioned. So I posted the quotes in the Book of God to show Wesley Muhammad also talked about his Zecharia Sitchin
quote:Originally posted by Ish Geber:
From where did you get that "The Black man is God" means Black people? And not the singular form?
In terms of plural yes, anthropomorphically there's an argument to be made. From my understanding they always meant is in one person. I take this from the religious doctrine. The go by One Special Being amongst the Gods. I don't think you really understand what they are saying.
No, I actually read what Master Fard Muhamad and Elijah Muhammad said and can bring in the quotes. Don't tell me about "My understanding is". First put up quotes from Master Fard's lessons or one of Elijah Muhammads books or lectures. The special being is Master Fard Muhammad who "came in the person of God", that Black people are God and Master Fard was the God of the Gods
quote:Originally posted by Ish Geber: You need to read about Alphonso and Baby Gee etc. the 25 thousand years cycle that creates the anthropomorphic God etc..
Yes, Alphonso impregnated a white woman named Baby Gee and she birthed God, Master Fard Muhammad
^^ this is God according to Elijah Muhammad
quote:Originally posted by Ish Geber:
It goes way deeper. I am not part of the group, but I did learn about them over time.
Either you can quote the doctrine or you can't.
quote:Originally posted by Ish Geber:
Dr. Wesley was a 5%, when he was in Team Allah. The 5% is aimed at street dudes and females who join in there. It's the same doctrine is the NOI, but not as strict, most are less disciplined. The rule is that is long as you can name the "lessons" you'er good.
You only know the basics of them, that is why you are so highly misinformed. You have shown this repeatedly throughout the many years.
No, stop bullsh!tting. The Nation already had plenty of outreach in prison. Clarence 13x left the Nation because he did not believe that Fard Muhammad who was half white could be God. He thought that the NOI's teachings were contradictory. They also silenced him while he was still a member.
This is what Master Fard Muhammad said in the lessons:
quote:"The original man is the Asiatic Black man; the Maker; the Owner; the Cream of the planet Earth - Father of Civilization, God of the Universe...
the original man is the God and Owner of the Earth. There is not a mystery God. the Living God is the Son of man, the supreme being, the (black man) of Asia
Then why did God make devil? ANS. To show forth HIS power - that HE is All-Wise and Righteous. That HE could make a devil, which is weak and wicked, and give the devil power to rule the earth for six thousand years and, then, destroy the devil in one day without falling victim to the devil's civilization. Otherwise to show and prove that ALLAH is the God - always has been and always will be.
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The True History of Master Fard Muhammad Allah (God) in person by Elijah Muhammad
God in person (Allah) is Fard Muhammad according to Elijah Muhammad not some mystery spirit in the sky, not some anthropomorphic special being, a human being. God is a human being. This is what Wesley Muhamad teaches
Although Master Fard Muhammad taught that the original man is the God and Owner of the Earth and Elijah Muhammad occasional said this, Elijah Muhammad and now Farrakhan do not come out saying "you are God" to black people they prefer Master Fard Muhammad have God status. Clarence 13X disagreed and left the Nation and started calling himself Father Allah and formed the Five Percent Nation where people greet each other as "God" That Nation of Islam does not do that and would not allow it although they might acknowledge black people collectively are God
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quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: Simply go back to my original post on the Book of God. In earlier posts Zecharia Sitchin was mentioned. So I posted the quotes in the Book of God to show Wesley Muhammad also talked about his Zecharia Sitchin
On what pages can I find these citations?
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: No, I actually read what Master Fard Muhamad and Elijah Muhammad said and can bring in the quotes. Don't tell me about "My understanding is". First put up quotes from Master Fard's lessons or one of Elijah Muhammads books or lectures. The special being is Master Fard Muhammad who "came in the person of God", that Black people are God and Master Fard was the God of the Gods
I already responded to this. You don't know the backstory.
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: Yes, Alphonso impregnated a white woman named Baby Gee and she birthed God, Master Fard Muhammad
Are you seriously going to repeat what I said? lol
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
this is God according to Elijah Muhammad
When are you going to find the "human" decency and respond to my question. What is the etymology of the word God?
He's the person who took them out of mental slavery and mental death.
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: Either you can quote the doctrine or you can't.
Either you can explain what the word God means, or you can't. See I can play that game as well and ally the same rules.
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: No, stop bullsh!tting. The Nation already had plenty of outreach in prison. Clarence 13x left the Nation because he did not believe that Fard Muhammad who was half white could be God. He thought that the NOI's teachings were contradictory. They also silenced him while he was still a member.
I am not bullsh!tting, you simply have no knowledge and deeper insight in this material. You have to rely on google searches.
The 5% belief in Fard Muhammad and Baby Gee. In fact in the early days the 5% had even white members. There's different sectors of the 5% as well. It's all very complicated.
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
The True History of Master Fard Muhammad Allah (God) in person by Elijah Muhammad
You often have shown books that you didn't even read yourself, remember?
Did you read this one, or are you just bragging again?
I posted hours and hours of Dr. Wesley Muhammad's lectures on this. He is the head of religious team at the NOI. I think he is better informed than you and I, or anyone on here, or elsewhere. But of cours as usually you are under the impression that you know it better and or more.
As usually you love to talk in circles.
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quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: Simply go back to my original post on the Book of God. In earlier posts Zecharia Sitchin was mentioned. So I posted the quotes in the Book of God to show Wesley Muhammad also talked about his Zecharia Sitchin
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: Simply go back to my original post on the Book of God. In earlier posts Zecharia Sitchin was mentioned. So I posted the quotes in the Book of God to show Wesley Muhammad also talked about his Zecharia Sitchin
On what pages can I find these citations?
25,47,251,256,277,282,286
Ok, I have the book. I will read it later.
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"It is written in the scripture that God rose up Pharaoh and gave him his power so that, after He destroyed her, the world will see that He Allah is God. So Allah has been developing America to the point where she is now, so that he can destroy her and prove to the world that there is no God but He. " -Dr. Wesley Muhammad, Book of God, 344
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quote:Originally posted by Tukuler: Did masareal as a guava sufganyot fill-in. Twas good and maybe you can educate me on the fine points of dessert. Consider this a lead in for you to introduce ES to your cultures and histories if you will.
Well Philippine culture including cuisine is not as homogeneous as most think since there are regional and local difference being an archipelago nation. I'm from Luzon so I'm more familiar with foods from there. Aside from Spanish, we have more Chinese influence. The Mindanao region in the south has more Indonesian influence including halal while the Visayan middle area has a little of both plus Vietnamese influence.
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Israel metaphysics posits 15.3 billion human years as the Age of the Cosmos because it knows time is relative to the observer. Imagine that.
But even in common American parlance a day (yom) can mean more than 24 hrs as in 'back in the day' and similar phrases.
The book of B*re'shiyth opens with the Big Bang which is the B of b*re'shiyth translated as 'in the beginning' of 'Elohiym creating our plane of existance but certainly not the beginning of the all. The idea being humanity can never know what preceded the Big Bang but science may unravel that tapestry some DAY. Current science places BB 13.8 bya.
Yes, thanks for the correction. Yom means day not year. And I'm aware that Jewish tradition acknowledges that time is relative so a day to the Lord is how many thousands of years etc.
quote: Ish Geber ahhi, Todah for crediting me with the sole pink man painted among the red-blacks of ancient Iraq. Couldn't believe I was blessed enough to find online what I remembered from a long lost art book.
To Ish: Why are you bringing up all this Urantia stuff? You do realize that such a mythology comes from Nazi-theosophy or Ariosophy, right?
Speaking of mythology I think this thread took a turn for the bizzare!
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quote:Originally posted by Djehuti: Why are you bringing up all this Urantia stuff? You do realize that such a mythology comes from Nazi-theosophy or Ariosophy, right?
No you will have to prove there is any relation between Urantia and Ariosophy and that Urantia contains something racist or Nazi-like in some way
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quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: "It is written in the scripture that God rose up Pharaoh and gave him his power so that, after He destroyed her, the world will see that He Allah is God. So Allah has been developing America to the point where she is now, so that he can destroy her and prove to the world that there is no God but He. " -Dr. Wesley Muhammad, Book of God, 344
I read some of the pages. I have to read to book The 12TH Planet by Zecharia Sitchin.
quote: "Zecharia Sitchin (July 11, 1920 – October 9, 2010)[1] was an author of books proposing an explanation for human origins involving ancient astronauts. Sitchin attributed the creation of the ancient Sumerian culture to the Anunnaki, which he stated was a race of extraterrestrials from a planet beyond Neptune called Nibiru. He asserted that Sumerian mythology suggests that this hypothetical planet of Nibiru is in an elongated, 3,600-year-long elliptical orbit around the sun. Sitchin's books have sold millions of copies worldwide and have been translated into more than 25 languages." […] According to Sitchin's interpretation of Mesopotamian iconography and symbolism, outlined in his 1976 book The 12th Planet and its sequels, there is an undiscovered planet beyond Neptune that follows a long, elliptical orbit, reaching the inner solar system roughly every 3,600 years. This planet is called Nibiru (although Jupiter was the planet associated with the god Marduk in Babylonian cosmology).[5] According to Sitchin, Nibiru (whose name was replaced with MARDUK in original legends by the Babylonian ruler of the same name in an attempt to co-opt the creation for himself, leading to some confusion among readers) collided catastrophically with Tiamat (a goddess in the Babylonian creation myth the Enűma Eliš), which he considers to be another planet once located between Mars and Jupiter. […] He wrote that they evolved after Nibiru entered the solar system, and they first arrived on Earth probably 450,000 years ago, looking for minerals, especially gold, which they found and mined in Africa. Sitchin states that these "gods" were the rank-and-file workers of the colonial expedition to Earth from planet Nibiru. […] According to Sitchin, Enki (the Sumerian god of water and human culture) suggested that to relieve the Anunnaki, who had mutinied over their dissatisfaction with their working conditions, that primitive workers (Homo sapiens) be created by genetic engineering as slaves to replace them in the gold mines by crossing extraterrestrial genes with those of Homo erectus.[7][8] […] Sitchin states the exact year is 2024 BC.[9] Sitchin says that his research coincides with many biblical texts, and that biblical texts come originally from Sumerian writings.
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: [qb] "It is written in the scripture that God rose up Pharaoh and gave him his power so that, after He destroyed her, the world will see that He Allah is God. So Allah has been developing America to the point where she is now, so that he can destroy her and prove to the world that there is no God but He. " -Dr. Wesley Muhammad, Book of God, 344
I read some of the pages. I have to read to book The 12TH Planet by Zecharia Sitchin.
that particular quote above is Wesley Muhammad, from Book of God but not related to Zecharia Sitchin. It comes out of Elijah Muhammad's Fall of America
quote:Originally posted by Djehuti: To Ish: Why are you bringing up all this Urantia stuff? You do realize that such a mythology comes from Nazi-theosophy or Ariosophy, right?
Speaking of mythology I think this thread took a turn for the bizzare!
I have never heard of the book, nor know what it's really about. I was on YouTube looking at some stuff about Cain, Abel and the land of Nod. It was after I posted on the The Adamic language.
I looked at a few videos, and in one of the videos a man talked about it showing this book. He said that the book Urantia explained a lot of the questions he had. I have honestly no idea what is written in it, that is why I asked over here if people know about it.
I even immediately deleted that video, because I don't want all that clutter.
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quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: that particular quote above is Wesley Muhammad, from Book of God but not related to Zecharia Sitchin. It comes out of Elijah Muhammad's Fall of America
I just posted to your last post, but not directly to what was quoted there. I now have all the books by Sitchin. When time suits me I will read them. And I read Elijah Muhammad's Fall of America in the early 2000s.
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Why does not Lioness dissect Mormonism they way she nostril deep into NOI?
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