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^ Racism as a powerful ideology--once it has taken hold of the mind--can take on the symptoms of and is frighteningly akin to that of a mental disorder, in that reality or the interpretation thereof becomes eskewed.
Thus, when Petrie noticed the "negroid" features of certain queens he came to the conclusion that Pharoahs married women of a "lower" type.
When white explorers came across the remains of advanced cultures or civilizations in 'Sub-Sahara', they automatically assumed them to be work of foreigners like Phoenicians or even Egyptians (who were thought to be "caucasians"). Even when no such evidence supports such a thing and all of the available evidence points to the opposite-- that the native peoples were responsible.
It is because of such sensless irrationality that I and others agree that racism is a mental disorder. People like Horemheb are ones who suffer from it, and places in the net like "Racial Reality", "Stormfront", "American Rennaisance" etc. are the unofficial nuthouses of people who suffer from such.
And the same is true for non-white racists, even black ones like Clyde Winters and his followers (Marc Washington, Lord, etc.) who mimic the same bias and illogical modus operandi as the white racists he goes against, when he ignores all valid linguistic data and writes (makes up) his own or distorts genetic evidence all to make up the 'history' or his fantasies in which blacks created civilization everywhere in the globe, including Europe and white people did not appear until the Middle Ages just appearing out of nowhere and displacing (eradicating?) the true black indigenees of Europe. And I assume this was the case with East Asia (China) and the Americas.
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quote:Originally posted by Please call me MIDOGBE: Thanks for the pics Djehuti, I didn't doubt there are pics of AE wearing the fillet as I have one of an OK or MK official from SCHÄFER's Principles of Egyptian Art at home.
Some of the other Africans who wear it are Betammaribe people from Northern Benin and Mina from Togo/Benin (I've seen pics of ritual dances).
I don't think their use is related to that of the people cited above since it is a very common ornament and I thought you claimed a common origin for them because their significance and use was the same.
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Looking at all these comparative images, can there be any doubt about the "Africanity" of Kemetic culture?! LOL.
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quote:Originally posted by alTakruri: Got the rest of it where the little girl is offered too?
LOL I've seen the part with the little girl, but how do you know that she was part of the offering?
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quote:Originally posted by Mystery Solver: Looking at all these comparative images, can there be any doubt about the "Africanity" of Kemetic culture?! LOL.
Of course not!
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From the tomb of Sebekhotep who was Thutmose IV's (1400-1390 BCE) senior treasurer. Posts: 8014 | From: the Tekrur in the Western Sahel | Registered: Feb 2006
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^ Agluza, could you please explain the details of those renditions of Egyptian art depicting rows of dancers?
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quote:Originally posted by Djehuti: ^ Racism as a powerful ideology--once it has taken hold of the mind--can take on the symptoms of and is frighteningly akin to that of a mental disorder, in that reality or the interpretation thereof becomes eskewed...
"We repudiate and condemn all forms of racialism, for racialism not only injuries those against whom it is used, but warps and perverts the very people who preach and project it."
Kwame Nkrumah, speech of welcome at Accra, Conference of Independent African States, 15 April 1958
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Djehuti: I don't have the PFOUMA'S book at hand, so I don't know.
By the way, the fillet was called sSd in Egyptian whose internal Egyptian etymology goes back to "to bind, to tie", so I guess we won't know its symbolic meaning from internal Egyptian etymology alone.
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This one, more so than some other threads deserves a sticky. Or better yet, why not a sticky thread indexing urls to posts devoted to authentic self-depicting AE art?
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I don't understand how whites and Arabs could possibly think the ancient Egyptians were white or Arab just lookkng at these paintings, figures, and sarcophagi. It makes no sense. They just need to give it up already.
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quote:Originally posted by Djehuti: ^ Racism as a powerful ideology--once it has taken hold of the mind--can take on the symptoms of and is frighteningly akin to that of a mental disorder, in that reality or the interpretation thereof becomes eskewed.
Thus, when Petrie noticed the "negroid" features of certain queens he came to the conclusion that Pharoahs married women of a "lower" type.
When white explorers came across the remains of advanced cultures or civilizations in 'Sub-Sahara', they automatically assumed them to be work of foreigners like Phoenicians or even Egyptians (who were thought to be "caucasians"). Even when no such evidence supports such a thing and all of the available evidence points to the opposite-- that the native peoples were responsible.
It is because of such sensless irrationality that I and others agree that racism is a mental disorder. People like Horemheb are ones who suffer from it, and places in the net like "Racial Reality", "Stormfront", "American Rennaisance" etc. are the unofficial nuthouses of people who suffer from such.
And the same is true for non-white racists, even black ones like Clyde Winters and his followers (Marc Washington, Lord, etc.) who mimic the same bias and illogical modus operandi as the white racists he goes against, when he ignores all valid linguistic data and writes (makes up) his own or distorts genetic evidence all to make up the 'history' or his fantasies in which blacks created civilization everywhere in the globe, including Europe and white people did not appear until the Middle Ages just appearing out of nowhere and displacing (eradicating?) the true black indigenees of Europe. And I assume this was the case with East Asia (China) and the Americas.
Again, racism is a mental disorder!
Some actually believe white Phoenicians taughtthe Ife people of West Africa to smelt iron and metals for the bronze work.
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Two completel different techniques to produce iron. One African metal science even produces carbon steel at least a millenium before it was done on anywhere else.
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I got them from flickr. There are a ton of Egyptian images under the Egyptian art set and many of them were added fairly recently. It seems a few of them are trying to get a comprehensive collection of Egyptian art from various museums onto the web.
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Where is White Nord and Celts when you need them.
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And the same is true for non-white racists, even black ones like Clyde Winters and his followers (Marc Washington, Lord, etc.) who mimic the same bias and illogical modus operandi as the white racists he goes against, when he ignores all valid linguistic data and writes (makes up) his own or distorts genetic evidence all to make up the 'history' or his fantasies in which blacks created civilization everywhere in the globe, including Europe and white people did not appear until the Middle Ages just appearing out of nowhere and displacing (eradicating?) the true black indigenees of Europe. And I assume this was the case with East Asia (China) and the Americas.
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