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Mike sometimes we see what look what like black people in Etruscan paintings. But frequently it's just people that have a medium brown reddish skin tone like these men below:
You can't assume that all such people are black. Yet you do over and over again. You never learn.
Anybody with a suntanned skin tone and or curly hair goes under the black file. Your research method is silly.
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Re: Bigio Morata - Greek, Roman, Anatolian, Kushite, they are all possible. Because quite the contrary of false White history, these were all dynamic multi-ethnic, multi-racial cosmopolitan societies. As to who was dominant, I can't say at this time.
Lioness, why can't you ever maintain a sensible conversation?
You really think that those men are pure Albino? Fool that you are, do I also need to remind you that I never called them White or Black. I call them Quadroons, or mixed raced. In North Africa and the middle east, I call them Sand Niggers.
Why are you so stupid?
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quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Greek, Roman, Anatolian, Kushite, they are all possible. Because quite the contrary of false White history, these were all dynamic multi-ethnic, multi-racial cosmopolitan societies. As to who was dominant, I can't say at this time.
But it becomes semantics. You could say the U.S., Britain, and France are "dynamic multi-ethnic, multi-racial cosmopolitan societies". Is Britain white? Technically it's not white it has many millions of citizens who are not white. So the vagueness of a question like "Is Britain white?" doesn't answer much. Do whites have the vast majority of political power in Britain yes. In ancient Rome, yes. In Ghana and China, no.
Is such and such country white? Is such and such country black? Few counties are absolutely 100% one ethnicity.
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quote:Originally posted by the lioness: [QUOTE]But it becomes semantics. You could say the U.S., Britain, and France are "dynamic multi-ethnic, multi-racial cosmopolitan societies". Is Britain white? Technically it's not white it has many millions of citizens who are not white. So the vagueness of a question like "Is Britain white?" doesn't answer much. Do whites have the vast majority of political power in Britain yes. In ancient Rome, yes. In Ghana and China, no.
Is such and such country white? Is such and such country black? Few counties are absolutely 100% one ethnicity.
Lion has presented evidence to support his assertion that they were Black dominated societies. What evidence do you offer to the contrary?
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quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Re: Bigio Morata - Greek, Roman, Anatolian, Kushite, they are all possible. Because quite the contrary of false White history, these were all dynamic multi-ethnic, multi-racial cosmopolitan societies. As to who was dominant, I can't say at this time.
Lioness, why can't you ever maintain a sensible conversation?
You really think that those men are pure Albino? Fool that you are, do I also need to remind you that I never called them White or Black. I call them Quadroons, or mixed raced. In North Africa and the middle east, I call them Sand Niggers.
Why are you so stupid?
Mike you yourself would say even people who are very light skinned with blond hair are still not "pure albino" so who are you kidding? Nobody uses this term "quadroon" The point is the dark reddish toned people I posted earlier would not be identified as "black". Some Arabs for example look like semi or fully black people but many have dark skin but without African looking features and don't consider themselves black. Some Indians and Asians have African looking features. But many Many Indians and Pakistanis have a dark skin tone and are not considered black or part black
Or Ray Romano who is Southern Italian
So if we are looking at some ancient Etruscans they could be black people or they could be people like the above who are not considered black people yet have dark skin.
Ray Romano is Italian so he probably has a greater chance of being related to an ancient Roman or Etruscan than Musharraf. many people would call him dark skinned white because he does not look like a mulatto in hair type or in facial features.
But you can come up with any name you like but the world does not identify people with a dark skin tone as instantly black. A quadroon is more white than black anyway. So stop making wild guesses. Having beards is not a determining factor either but it's not very African. That should clue you in on making an educated guess.
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quote:Originally posted by the lioness: [QUOTE]But it becomes semantics. You could say the U.S., Britain, and France are "dynamic multi-ethnic, multi-racial cosmopolitan societies". Is Britain white? Technically it's not white it has many millions of citizens who are not white. So the vagueness of a question like "Is Britain white?" doesn't answer much. Do whites have the vast majority of political power in Britain yes. In ancient Rome, yes. In Ghana and China, no.
Is such and such country white? Is such and such country black? Few counties are absolutely 100% one ethnicity.
Lion has presented evidence to support his assertion that they were Black dominated societies. What evidence do you offer to the contrary?
Lion did not say Rome was Black dominated, you trying to use him as a human shield or something?
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Lioness, I am getting the feeling that you are one of those he,he, "less-than-pure-Albinos" who are worried about not being recognized as White.
Fear not, I am not in the business of deciding who should qualify as White. To me, anyone who wants to be White, IS White, regardless of complexion.
My interest is history, and it's racial components. My racial assignments are commensurate with that scholarly pursuit only, what you call yourself, or consider yourself, is of absolutely no interest to me - so by all means, be White!
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quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Lioness, I am getting the feeling that you are one of those he,he, "less-than-pure-Albinos" who are worried about not being recognized as White. Fear not, I am not in the business of deciding who should qualify as White. To me, anyone who wants to be White, IS White, regardless of complexion.
Did the ruling class of ancient Rome average at greater than 50% albino or less than 50% albino?
Did the general population of ancient Rome average at greater than 50% albino or less than 50% albino?
quote:Originally posted by Mike111:
My interest is history, and it's racial components. My racial assignments are commensurate with that scholarly pursuit only, what you call yourself, or consider yourself, is of absolutely no interest to me - so by all means, be White!
When you say "racial" components what are the races in your opinion. Is an albino a separate race? If not, than what are the racial categories that you use in your assignments in your field, racial history?
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quote:Originally posted by the lioness: [QUOTE]But it becomes semantics. You could say the U.S., Britain, and France are "dynamic multi-ethnic, multi-racial cosmopolitan societies". Is Britain white? Technically it's not white it has many millions of citizens who are not white. So the vagueness of a question like "Is Britain white?" doesn't answer much. Do whites have the vast majority of political power in Britain yes. In ancient Rome, yes. In Ghana and China, no.
Is such and such country white? Is such and such country black? Few counties are absolutely 100% one ethnicity.
Lion has presented evidence to support his assertion that they were Black dominated societies. What evidence do you offer to the contrary?
Lion did not say Rome was Black dominated, you trying to use him as a human shield or something?
Dont mis-quote me Ms PinK Panther Cause you a liar and a time waster Just answer my question....
Do apply bleaching lotion on your pink-white butts, or do you prefer tanning lotion?
Lion!
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Saint Maurice (also known as Maurice , Moritz or Mauritius) . He was the commander of the Theban Legion martyred and died in the early third century.
The Theban Legion , consisting only of Christians from Egypt , was ordered to leave for Gaul to aid the Emperor Maximian. Although they fought bravely , refused to obey the imperial order to persecute Christians , so they were decimated. Refusing a second time, all members of the Theban Legion were executed. The place where these events allegedly took place , known as Agaunum , is now the headquarters of the Abbey of Saint Maurice in the Swiss canton of Valais.
This is the earliest version of the story of the martyrdom of the Theban Legion , according to the letter Eucherius , archbishop of Lyon (c. 434-450 ) went to the bishop also Salvius . In other versions varies the cause of martyrdom, and the legionnaires were executed for refusing to make sacrifices to Roman gods.
Iron, you have an inability to tell what is an Afro and what is not. Show me an African with this type of thick bunchy hair, are you crazy, they would laugh you out of the New Black Panther Party meeting. You think these men have the same nose? King Selassie had a semitic nose that points downward like many Ethiopians do. These busts of the Roman Emperors do not have that type of nose. Rome was white with a smattering of blacks they bossed around and took over Carthage.
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If someone were to make a portrait of him in stone you would say he's black.
That's why no one takes your clowning seriously.
Although there are people who have ambiguous facial features between African and Caucasians there are many Caucasians who do not look ambiguous they look most definitely European.
You have a complete inability to sense that. ....forget about the hair, if you can't sense that Europeans, not Africans match the features and forehead of this portrait of Augustus you have a learning disability.
It is clear as day, not even slightly ambiguous.
LOL!
The natural and straight animal hair of Justin Timberlake when he is not going to a hair dresser. No hope for lyingass, can you see his real animal hair now. An albino with curly hair was not yet born.
Now Lyinass
Name me the gene that causes curly hair in Albinos? Go ahead dunce, name it?
The one that causes animal hair in Albinos is called THADA. I gave that you you already.
The one that causes pink skin is called defective OCA.
The one that causes coloured eyes and coloured hair is called MC1R.
What is the name of the gene that causes curly hair in Albino Europeans, if any?
Do you use tanning lotions like all Albinos do or do you use BLEACHING CREAM like the Roman women?
Stop playing games and start debatiing!
Lion!
Have you forgotten this lesson from your faux-pas?
Only the mad do the same thing over and over again and expect a different result.
An albino with wooly hair was not yet born.
Wooly hair is a special mark of the Moorish people...
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Iron, you have an inability to tell what is an Afro and what is not. Show me an African with this type of thick bunchy hair, are you crazy, they would laugh you out of the New Black Panther Party meeting. You think these men have the same nose? King Selassie had a semitic nose that points downward like many Ethiopians do. These busts of the Roman Emperors do not have that type of nose. Rome was white with a smattering of blacks they bossed around and took over Carthage.
Marcus Aurelius
Behold young Marcus Aurelius
Behold!young and careless Mohamed Osman Mohamud, 19
Gotha wearing curly wigs! Lyingass who is this Gothic joker? He has no name? Are you trying to avoid the Justin Timberlake boo boo?
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Iron if somebody is wearing a beard their head looks longer. As you know it’s uncommon for African cultures to wear beards. In this picture of a younger Marcus Aurelius with shorter facial hair you can see that the shape of his head is not elongated or narrow.
This man:
Mohamed Osman Mohamud has
a) an elongated narrow East African head b) an Afro-Semitic nose that points downward c) very full lips
none of that is Roman. I keep trying to learn your ass. Because his hair is halfway more looking like Marcus Aurelius you do not have a match because there are three other things that are significantly different.
Perhaps a new eyeglasses prescription?
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Lioness - You sound very expert about Roman physical attributes. Mind telling me what your source or prototypical model is?
He, he, never mind, I'm just messin with you. I know it's the statues that you are looking at. Mind telling me what makes you think that those statues are authentic?
You know, it's not like the White man is not known for producing fake artifacts.
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quote:Originally posted by the lioness: Iron this is Ozzy Osbourne's son:
He has naturally curly hair. When you cut this type of hair short it looks like this:
I keep trying to train your ass, the curl of the white man is larger scale. If you cut it very short, these large curls are too short to form.
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This is Lee Osborne with his family. The straight hair boy on the right is the same one posted by Lyingass girl as a wooly haired "black" man...hehehe..
Lyingass, I caught you Lyingass again. I busted your fake-ass wool-haired cum curly haired white man. This is the second such bust after the Justin Timberlake boo-boo. I call this one the Osborne boo-boo!
Now find me a picture of young Mohammed with straight short hairs.
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Iron, you have an inability to tell what is an Afro and what is not. Show me an African with this type of thick bunchy hair, are you crazy, they would laugh you out of the New Black Panther Party meeting. You think these men have the same nose? King Selassie had a semitic nose that points downward like many Ethiopians do. These busts of the Roman Emperors do not have that type of nose. Rome was white with a smattering of blacks they bossed around and took over Carthage.
Marcus Aurelius
Behold young Marcus Aurelius
Behold!young and careless Mohamed Osman Mohamud, 19
Gotha wearing curly wigs! Lyingass who is this Gothic joker? He has no name? Are you trying to avoid the Justin Timberlake boo boo?
Lyingass
You can see thesoft curly wooly hair of Jack Osburne in its natural form?? LOL
This picture as you can see shows you another goth Albino with straight neanderthal hair.
Pink Pantheress, how many times do I need to school your pink arse that a wooly haired albino was not yet born.
Another lie busted Another liard outed!
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According to this Mike everyone that is close to black or 100% black should be building immaculate empires. Do we really see this happening around the world today?
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quote:Originally posted by IronLion: [QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by IronLion: Behold young Marcus Aurelius
Behold!young and careless Mohamed Osman Mohamud, 19
Jack Osbourne after hair dressing! Aching for the wooly hair Lyingass who is this Gothic joker? He has no name? Are you trying to avoid the Justin Timberlake boo boo?
Jack Osborne as a baby. See his straight neanderthal hair? Another lie busted Another liard outed!
Jack Osbourne straight hair far left
Lioness
Another bad hair day for you!
LoL!
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quote:Originally posted by IronLion: [QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by IronLion: Behold young Marcus Aurelius
Behold!young and careless Mohamed Osman Mohamud, 19
Jack Osbourne after hair dressing! Aching for the wooly hair Lyingass who is this Gothic joker? He has no name? Are you trying to avoid the Justin Timberlake boo boo?
Jack Osborne as a baby. See his straight neanderthal hair? Another lie busted Another liard outed!
Jack Osbourne straight hair far left
Lioness
Another bad hair day for you!
LoL!
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Yeah I got a comment. Jack Osbourne looks alot more like Marcus Aurelius than the other guy. In fact the other guy seems to be highly mixed like myself. lol
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quote:Originally posted by A Simple Girl: Yeah I got a comment. Jack Osbourne looks alot more like Marcus Aurelius tha the other guy. In fact the other guy seems to be highly mixed like myself. lol
Simple Pink Girl
Jack Osbourne has straight red hair! Just like his dada, Ozzy... An albino pink ass with wooly hair was not yet born!!!
You sure are simple!
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Gaius Avidius Nigrinus (died 118) was a Roman that lived between the 1st and 2nd centuries.
Nigrinus’ paternal and maternal ancestors were Romans of the highest political rank. He was the son of an elder Gaius Avidius Nigrinus by an unnamed mother, his brother was the consul Titus Avidius Quietus and his paternal uncle was the proconsul Tiberius Avidius Quietus. Nigrinus’ family were wealthy, distinguished and well connected politically from Faventia (modern Faenza, Italy) and he was born and raised in Faventia. Nigrinus and his family may have been related to the consul Gaius Petronius Pontius Nigrinus, who had served his consulship at the time that the Roman Emperor Tiberius had died in 37.
His family had strong links to Greece. The father of Nigrinus, had served at an unknown date during the reign of Roman Emperor Domitian (81-96) as Proconsul of Achaea, as well as his paternal uncle. His family was friends of Greek Historian Plutarch and Roman Senator Pliny the Younger. Plutarch dedicated a writing piece to the elder Nigrinus and Quietus entitled ‘On Brotherly Love’.
Nigrinus was a long outstanding friend of the Roman Emperor Trajan and his family. He served as Tribune in 105. Nigrinus served as Legatus of Achaea and probably participated in Trajan’s attempt to recognize and stabilize the administration of the financially troubled province. Nigrinus later became the Roman Governor of Greece....
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Iron, there's no point in arguing about this individual or that individual.
You said you thought Rome was a multi-racial society. That could mean any thing. For example Finland is over 90% white. Yet it's not 100%. So therefore someone could argue it's multi-racial in that sense. Someone could argue on this basis Finland is not a "white" county
Ironed, in your opinion what was the approximate percentage of black people in the population of ancient Rome?
I can't play endless picture games with you without charging a fee
(mike let him answer first please)
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Anywhere Moors have settled on earth certain markers are always present, pyramids, totem poles, alchemy, and marine sciences... higher level civilization.
We call it Moorish science; they stole it and called it free-masonry
The Rosslyn Temple in Scotland copies this same Africa metaphysical conception of totem poles in its architecture and interior decor:
A totem pole is a symbol of the qualities, experience and exploits of the clan.
The totem carvings tell a story, revealed only if one knows the meaning assigned to various animals, fish, birds and designs and where they are placed on the pole
quote:Originally posted by the lioness: Iron, there's no point in arguing about this individual or that individual...
You mean the tinggy with Jack Osbourne and Justin Timberlake with hot Romano-Moorish fake curls?
You need to apologize for that deliberate lie, otherwise I will hold your feet to fire.
quote: You said you thought Rome was a multi-racial society. That could mean any thing. For example Finland is over 90% white. Yet it's not 100%. So therefore someone could argue it's multi-racial in that sense. Someone could argue on this basis Finland is not a "white" county
The point is that Rome was not a "white" country, culture or civilization. You nasty gothas are grown on a soup of lies about your "great white Roman ancestor."
But the Romans were not a white people, the white people came in later and murdered them all! The Vandals, the Gothas, the Visigoths, Cagots the whole rat pack, now known as the Spaniards, the Portugese, the French, the so-called white Italians (Lombardis), the Romanians, the Serbians, the Solvakians, the whole rat pack white-boi supremacists blood of the Romans is on your hands just like the blood of the Moors of Europe, and those of the Moors of Africa, those of the Moors of America, those of the Moors of India and Indonesia you will all pay without doubt...
Cause your historical deeds will arise and judge you with true judgement one day you will also pay!
quote:Ironed, in your opinion what was the approximate percentage of black people in the population of ancient Rome?
The question should be the other way round. What was the percentage of Gotha Albinos in what was essentially an Empire centered in Africa.
There were more Roman cities in Africa than in Europe. Western and central Europe were outposts of Roman empire, which was essentially landbased and spread from Moorish Asia-minor to Moorish Arabia, to Moorish Africa.
What could be the percentage of so-called whites amongst a tribe of Sicuanis, or Iberians or Latinis, or Silures, or Maurisians, all of whom we know as a historical fact came from Africa!!!
Romano-Moorish History 101.
Go do the sum dummy...
Lion!
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quote:Originally posted by A Simple Girl: According to this Mike everyone that is close to black or 100% black should be building immaculate empires. Do we really see this happening around the world today?
Simple Girl - I hear that smug retort very often. Always from people who are ignorant of history and the modern world.
Over the course of human history, Civilizations come, and civilizations go. The current White civilizations, which are continuations of Black civilizations in Europe, are about at their end - read a newspaper.
Southern Asia is in ascension: India, China, Indonesia, S.Korea - Japan is already there.
So if you check back with me in about a hundred years, you will probably be singing a different tune.
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quote:Originally posted by Clyde Winters: The Greeks and Romans were very racist.
quote: Originally posted by IronedLion:
The point is that Rome was not a "white" country, culture or civilization. You nasty gothas are grown on a soup of lies about your "great white Roman ancestor."
the Romans were not a white people, the white people came in later and murdered them all!
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Iron,
1) In the period before invasions by the Goths and others would you describe the majority of Rome as being black? What ethnicity, how would you describe the majority of the Roman people in the period say from 27 BC to 300 AD?
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This is a basic question I should have asked at the beginning of this thread. Really if you want to avoid this question which goes to the heart to the thread, I can't continue playing games with you about details. In the Roman empire period before invasions by the Goths and others would you describe the majority of Rome as being black?
2)The Romans famously destroyed Carthage, razed to the ground, no stone was to be left upon another, the soil was to be ploughed and strewn with salt. How do you feel about that?
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quote:Originally posted by Clyde Winters: The Greeks and Romans were very racist.
quote: Originally posted by IronedLion:
The point is that Rome was not a "white" country, culture or civilization. You nasty gothas are grown on a soup of lies about your "great white Roman ancestor."
the Romans were not a white people, the white people came in later and murdered them all!
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Iron,
1) In the period before invasions by the Goths and others would you describe the majority of Rome as being black? What ethnicity, how would you describe the majority of the Roman people in the period say from 27 BC to 300 AD?
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This is a basic question I should have asked at the beginning of this thread. Really if you want to avoid this question which goes to the heart to the thread, I can't continue playing games with you about details. In the Roman empire period before invasions by the Goths and others would you describe the majority of Rome as being black?
2)The Romans famously destroyed Carthage, razed to the ground, no stone was to be left upon another, the soil was to be ploughed and strewn with salt. How do you feel about that?
I am not here to play rhetorical games with your pink ass.
I respond to the world not really to your idiocy.
So,
Do not engage me with your black spell word because Rome did have a basic ethnicity which is Moorish, Ibero, Nigri-Latini.
You colour coded spell, does not work with me. By the authority of Civil law I am white in class, higher than you by heritage and descent.. original Moor.
The class code colour "white" was stolen by cagots and first used only in 1776 in the United States of America. Before that Cagots were the reds, the pinks, or the "leprous of the skin" as told in the bible and the Moors was known as the noble moors the first and original whites of Europe the nobility and aborigine of the land.
You have been told again and again that in the classical period of Rome Ancient Romans were a mix of ethnicities Africanis, Africani Europeans, Maurisians, some Greeks, some Catheginians of Sicily, the Sicanis, the Iberians of Iberia, and the latinis of latium whose langugage was used.
In the middles period Rome began experimenting with Gotha and Slava slaves, and concubines.
In the later period, the empire was swamped by Gotha/Slava servants slaves and military auxillaries.
Those were the fifth coloum which open the gates for the barbarian armies of Alaric the Visigotha in 410 when Gothas enterd and burnt down Rome.
Lion!
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quote:Originally posted by Clyde Winters: The Greeks and Romans were very racist.
quote: Originally posted by IronedLion:
The point is that Rome was not a "white" country, culture or civilization. You nasty gothas are grown on a soup of lies about your "great white Roman ancestor."
the Romans were not a white people, the white people came in later and murdered them all!
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Iron,
1) In the period before invasions by the Goths and others would you describe the majority of Rome as being black? What ethnicity, how would you describe the majority of the Roman people in the period say from 27 BC to 300 AD? This is a basic question I should have asked at the beginning of this thread. Really if you want to avoid this question which goes to the heart to the thread, I can't continue playing games with you about details. In the Roman empire period before invasions by the Goths and others would you describe the majority of Rome as being black?
2)The Romans famously destroyed Carthage, razed to the ground, no stone was to be left upon another, the soil was to be ploughed and strewn with salt. How do you feel about that? [/qb][/QUOTE]
quote:Originally posted by IronLion:I am not here to play rhetorical games with your pink ass.
I respond to the world not really to your idiocy.
So, You colour coded spell, does not work with me. By the authority of Civil law I am white in class, higher than you by heritage and descent.. original Moor.
The class code colour "white" was stolen by cagots and first used only in 1776 in the United States of America. Before that Cagots were the reds, the pinks, or the "leprous of the skin" as told in the bible and the Moors was known as the noble moors the first and original whites of Europe the nobility and aborigine of the land.
so Rome was white just like you are, very interesting
quote:Originally posted by Ironedlion:
Rome did have a basic ethnicity which is Moorish, Ibero, Nigri-Latini.
Hmmm I wonder which category these guys fall into, Moorish, Ibero or Nigri-Latini. What is your guess Iron?
Julius-Caesar
vespasian
Tiberius
Trajan
lol, let me know when you come up with something, not some unknown people from an Egyptian province, these famous Emperors above including Julius Caesar. If you are telling me they are not white Caucasians you are insane we're putting you in the looney bin with the rest of the fake Moors who think slavery never happened.
quote:Originally posted by IronLion: Maximian the Moorish Emperor of Rome
Romano-Moorish Emperor Maximian..See the attempt to hide his facial features? Darn Goths!!?
How many Moorish Emperors of Rome have I shown you now, Lyingass? How many? And counting...
Sorry Lyingass, did that hurt?
Lyingass, you can run but you cannot hide.
Behold Emperor Maximina, Moorish Romano Emperor from Africa!
Behold beautiful Moorish-Romano Galla Palciada daughter of Emperor Theodosius I 392 - 450 AD
Coin of Galla Placiada.. see her wooly locks? This one is not Justin Timberlake nor Jack Osbourne fake curls..
Sorry Lyingass gal, did that hurt?
Moorish Romano Emperor Honorius This is a 19th century impression done by Jean-Paul_Laurens, but you get the idea of the King'sethniciy insantly
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